Watching this in 2021 because I'm going through Romans verse-by-verse and I'm realizing it's such a full, meaty,whole book. Thank you for letting God use you.
Hey Mike! Just want to say thank you for all the content. I'm a Youth pastor and use your studies as one of many resources before teaching the youth at my Church. Keep your eyes on the author and finisher of your faith. God bless!
Just wanted to point out this quote @ 18:05 "Name the people you think can't be saved, and that's where you're not Christian." An OVERWHELMING amen to this, Mike. God bless.
I’m going through you series on Roman’s for the second time. This time with a bit more bible education under my belt and this is amazing. Thank for your humble words.
I'm watching this two years after you preached this, and I am so blessed by your teaching. Thank you for uploading videos constantly to TH-cam for free. You make the Bible so clear!
I just want to say that I love your videos Mike. Skimming through the comments for this video really surprised me how much hate there is. Every time I watch one of your videos I feel encouraged and enlightened to the truth of the bible and how it applies to today's cultural landscape. I think the hate is an indication that you're doing the right thing. Keep 'em coming.
justKenzie I bet they are out there. Pray for God to bring you to people who believe His word and love Him. Praying you find one or a Bible study or something to get in fellowship
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I love this word brother! I just taught this same thing to my Sunday class. Very encouraging this amazing message of the gospel and the power of his saving grace.
Mike thanks so much for all these wonderful videos. I’m blessed through them. I’m learning real, reformed theology through them. I planned studying theology in a seminary in Germany 🇩🇪, watching your videos which I’m somewhat addicted to recently encourages me and enlightened me a lot. Please keep the good work, you’re terrifically blessing many souls out there and I’m definitely one of them. God bless you too.
Hi Mike I just want to say thank you - for the teachings you bring us. This particular message and this series as a whole is excellent. I am a "fallen" pastor - the grace and truth of these messages is both refreshing, affirming, challenging and convicting. God bless you greatly bro!
In the book The Hiding Place by Corrie Ten Boom there is the part where her mother lay dying and those around her were talking about all her good works. How she fed people and visited the sick and taught the feeble minded and Corrie's mother says, "No, I thank God when I go to him it will be with empty hands." All our good works pale in comparison to the righteousness in Jesus. Love the book of Romans. I was found by Jesus and saved through reading Romans.
Good word brother! I would only add or "critique" this message just to add more depth to the description of the grace of God...we were not "dying" and then God saved us through Christ, but we were "dead" in our sins and transgressions.
Propitiation is basically like in this following example. A king, who has authority over his subjects (of course) is attacked by one of his subjects. The king has the right, then, to have that subject put to death. However, he doesn't really want this person to die, so he tells this subject that if he will, say, clean the houses of everyone in the kingdom over the next five years, then he'll be set free. (Of course, he'll be under guard during this time, not being free to leave the kingdom.) That is the propitiation; it's what the king requires to be appeased. In a similar vein, the wages of sin is death, and the soul that sins shall die. We have each sinned, and we each deserve to die and to undergo the second death mentioned in Revelation, which is eternal damnation. However, God--our King, our Authority--doesn't want us to die, so He provided us with a way out. He determined what needed to be done as propitiation, to "appease" Him from damning us all. He in His Son died in our place, even though He never sinned, and if we believe that and love and submit to and follow the Son, then we are set free. Believing (trusting) in Him is our propitiation. It's what the offended Authority says will "appease" Him or make Him willing to forego our damnation. (With God, He even brings us into His presence for all eternity, going beyond propitiation and forgiveness!) It's also kind of like you owing a bank more money than you can pay, and the bank says, okay, just pay us half and we'll call it even. You pay the half, and the loan is cleared. It isn't marked "paid in full" because it wasn't paid in full. (That would be lying.) Rather, the remaining balance on the loan is simply eliminated. It's kind of got the concept of propitiation there, although I'm not sure a bank can ask for propitiation. I think it's more for someone like a king or a god, someone with that kind of authority, due that kind of respect. Of course, if the subject in the first paragraph doesn't clean the houses, or if someone dies physically without believing in Jesus, or if the person doesn't pay back half of the loan, then the conditions of the propitiation have not been met, and the original negative consequence remains (physical death for #1, eternal damnation for #2, perhaps jail or repossession of property for #3). Basic outline: Authority is done against. The Authority provides a means of propitiation, how to make it right. The offending person meets the terms of the propitiation and is exonerated, or the person does not meet them and receives the due negative consequences. The propitiation is whatever the offended authority determines.
Mike - thanks! This is quite a summation of Paul's argument through this section as it stands within the whole epistle. What to me is sad is that this is 'going deep' - to simply read and understand what has been written. How few Christians can define Justification, Redemption, Propitiation, Grace, Imputation, Righteousness, etc.? Very few in my own experience of asking them to define these terms that are the foudation of our understanding of God and Christ. Now, admittedly, Paul packs a TON of stuff into some 170 words here, so one has to read, think, research, learn, re-read, etc. a LOT to get hold of these truths because each word is just what it ought to be. As Strunk and White say: Be concise, be concise, be concise. (though in many places I would have liked to have had a good editor) : - )
Listening to you was like hearing my own reflections on God spoken aloud. It is truly beautiful to know someone who walks in the same Spirit as yourself. When I was in my early twenties, I did perhaps the only wise thing in my life, I read the bible in its entirety. I prayed that God would hide his Word in my heart, and I prayed that even should I stray, he would bring me back. I strayed hard after that though. For almost a decade I lived in sin. Yet almost not a day went by that I did not think about God and His word, and I would cry out regularly to him. I had trouble reconciling my sinful nature with my faith in Christ, and it caused me to stumble hard. I somehow thought that because I continued to sin so grievously despite having been saved, I was hopeless, and I became lost. Lately my prayer has been that God will fill me up with an unending love for Him, and He is answering in a big way. I now suddenly understand that before Christ, I lived IN sin, bound to it, unable to escape it. Now I understand that now that I live in Christ, I merely live WITH sin. God has poured out his grace on me, because like you said, I know me. He has blessed me at every turn. I know that these understandings are not really my own, but rather what He has shown me through his word, and through my life. I love my God, and I know how little I deserve His love in return, but I thank Jesus that he does! That is why I have my hope in Christ, to be made pure and new in him someday. I love you, thank you for this message and God bless you!
Wow, I've listened to a quite a few of your sermons, I like them all, but this one really hit home for me. Justified freely by his grace. The holy hands part really brought it home for me. Thank you so much for what you do. God bless you from San Diego. One question though, do you believe a Christian can lose their salvation? Do you have a video on this? Thanks!
This has always been a big debate between Christians. The Bible tells us that God knew us before we were born. We are also told their is a book of Life in which the names of those are saved..... so unless you think God has a pencil and eraser constantly adding and erasing names, it stands to reason that once saved always saved. The question is, is your name written in the Book of Life?
Hi, I read where it says in John 3 that God wishes that none perish, that all come to repentance. For I did not send My Son into the world to condemn it but that the world through Him could be saved. When we are saved we enter into a covenant with God. We surrender our lives to His ways, we die to self will, we make Jesus our LORD, Master Who guides us into the righteousness of Christ. We believe with our hearts, not our emotions. It's a commitment we freely choose. When a believer chooses to no longer honor the commitment, the person chooses to leave God and return to their own ways. The Holy Spirit will continue to draw them because God is faithful, but if the person does not desire to return then the name is removed from the Lamb's Book Of Life. They deserted God.
Yes but also No. You can lose it, But ONLY if you choose to no longer have faith in:(trust in, rely soley upon) what Jesus for completely taking your wrath upon himself. Its a done deal. Do you accept that, or Not? I personally do not like the term "once saved, always saved" for that very reason. You can change what you believe. But as Mike laid out clearly in this video, it is by faith alone. Romans 11:6 puts it plainly as well. If there was even 1 thing that you HAD to refrain from doing, or to keep on doing to save yourself, then Christ's death was PURPOSELESS. You would also have something to BOAST about. Mike clearly dismantled that argument. We are all truly losers. Jesus just chose to give is a gift of righteousness, because he loves us. That is my opinion on the matter. I struggled with this exact question FOR A LONG Time. Watching Mike's videos has completely changed my mind on the matter.
Lost faith (apostasy from Christ) equals lost salvation. Saved by grace through faith. Keep your faith in Him and you will be saved. Hebrews 10 Now faith is made complete by the fruit it produces but one is saved before the fruit manifests. Just as Abraham received the promise by faith and later that faith was proven genuine by the sacrifice of Isaac. Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, who through faith are shielded by God’s power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. In all this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in all kinds of trials. These have come so that the proven genuineness of your faith-of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire-may result in praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed. Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy, for you are receiving the end result of your faith, the salvation of your souls. Concerning this salvation, the prophets, who spoke of the grace that was to come to you, searched intently and with the greatest care, trying to find out the time and circumstances to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when he predicted the sufferings of the Messiah and the glories that would follow. It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves but you, when they spoke of the things that have now been told you by those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into these things. Therefore, with minds that are alert and fully sober, set your hope on the grace to be brought to you when Jesus Christ is revealed at his coming. As obedient children, do not conform to the evil desires you had when you lived in ignorance. for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.” Since you call on a Father who judges each person’s work justly, live out your time as foreigners here in reverent fear. For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your ancestors, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect. He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake. Through him you believe in God, who raised him from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God. Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for each other, love one another deeply, from the heart. For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. For, “All people are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of the Lord endures forever.” And this is the word that was preached to you. 1 Peter 1:3-14, 16-25 Be sure your faith is real because only real faith saves. God talks about this saving faith through James in James chapter 2 and this kind of saving faith is demonstrated in Hebrews 11. The first fruit of true faith is a born again, spiritual heart change from the Lord. Your desires shift toward righteousness, not as a way to prove how good you are but because of what God has done for you and in you. You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love. For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this (make a practice of these things) will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other. Galatians 5:13-26 Once the change is done for you, and in you, by grace through faith, the fruit which follows is what God is now doing through you to bless His people and to reach out to broken and fallen people whom the Lord seeks to redeem. We must learn of Him and grow intimately with God through pray and His word in order to get in line with His will a d the work He is doing in and through us. Our freedom comes, as Jesus said to the believing Jews, by holding to ( believing and living out) His teaching. Then we will know the truth and the truth will set us free. John 8:31-32 We have confidence in what we hope for and assurance about the promises, even though we don't physically see them yet because the one who made the promise is faithful. Be faithful out of joy and thanksgiving for the gift given; knowing that He will finish the good work He started, even if it doesn't always feel that way. This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin. If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us. 1 John 1:5-10 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father-Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them. For everything in the world-the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life-comes not from the Father but from the world. The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever. And now, dear children, continue in him, so that when he appears we may be confident and unashamed before him at his coming. If you know that he is righteous, you know that everyone who does what is right has been born of him. 1 John 2:1-2, 15-17, 28-29 “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” Mark 1:15
Hi pastor Mike Winger thanks for good teaching you giving us, it is really helpful and enlightening. I have been wondering what could it be that when it comes to salvation we have to believe to be saved and with sin , we didn't have to believe to be sinner, we became sinners cause we were born physically under Adam who sin. Does Adam sin run in our blood stream because of physically birth, please explain why the processes are slightly different 🙏
As a born-again ex muslim, I am very thankful that Mike mentioned that. It's also humbling because I feel that way about the homosexual and transgender controversy these days.
I know I’m 5 years late on this, but I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on the “Pistis Christou” interpretation of v22. The “faithfulness OF Christ,” rather than “faith IN Christ.” I tend to lean the former but I’d love to hear your insight
The jews had their teachers but not of them really understood although a deep knowledge was assumed : Jesus however as a small boy ,was able to debate them. But, not finding him, they returned to Jerusalem, making a diligent search for him. 46 Well, after three days they found him in the temple,+ sitting in the midst of the teachers and listening to them and questioning them. 47 But all those listening to him were in constant amazement at his understanding and his answers. luke 2
When you said "name the people who you think can't be saved", I thought instantly of famously evil dead people. Because dead people can't be saved, obviously. And then you clarify that you're thinking of live people, which makes more sense, since anybody can be saved while they still have future choices and chances.
So if I am saved by faith alone (a Protestant doctrine), why do I need to work out my salvation with fear and trembling?… Philippians 2:12 NKJV Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, 👉work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; …maybe because I am not saved by faith alone, but by good works of faith done in Christ, not that I can boast in myself… James 2:24 NKJV You see then that a man is *justified by works*, and not by faith only. All praise and glory to God.
@@christ-resurrected finish the verse you initially quoted, it answers itself. Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling… for it is God who works in you both to will and to do his good pleasure.” He does the work, we just trust in his goodness
What day does it say that the bible book contest is Yolanda Torrez and her family! Will be finally recognized and truth will be known to her and her family?
This study is so important. All the historical facts and touching down on how God died is psalms 22 which is proof for Muslims and Jehovah Witnesses who claim he didn't die or that it was a pole not a cross. Writings sounds of Jesus but found to be written before God entered his creation as Jesus Christ.
If Justification has two components the cleansing of sin an imputed righteousness, wouldn't it make sense that the righteousness imputed is the Holy Spirit? This would simplify the, 'is it by grace or by works', debate. We are cleansed so we can receive the promise of the Spirit so we can live righteous lives.
Mike can you do a video covering Roman’s 3:25 people are saying that Christ did not die for all sins only past ones and using this verse. I personally think that might be Blasphemous to Jesus Christ but idk
17:47 The Muslims have just as much right to be saved as anyone else. Because of their religious ways, they seeing the TRUTH, find intimacy with CHRIST. Let us find this intense relationship with HIM.
Thanks Pastor Mike for your gift in teaching plainly, on Minute 42:35 you meant to say Hebrews 7:25 ( not 11:25) ! I send your teaching to as many as I can always to help keep tracking! Blessings !
Mike, I just want to make emphasis on the passage on Romans 3:23 "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" I have never heard this be explained satisfactory, expositors fly through this passage without going into it. No one responds to the question this verse possess, what does it mean to fall short of the glory of God? According to my understanding from Paul's writings, basically it says that God cannot give us of His Glory because of our sin. This is not foreign to the gospel since Paul constantly preaches the glory that is to be revealed in us at His coming and that we are growing day by day in the spirit and showing the glory of the Lord in us. Jesus allows the Father to treat us as righteous but it does not stop there. Even though the Father treat as as righteous, and by faith and repentance He gives us the Holy Spirit which is who gives us the capacity to grow in righteousness, we need to grow in LOVE the type of love described in 1 Corinthians 13. I suggest to you the parable of the talents as a word to Christians so that we know we need to grow in LOVE which is the Fruit of the Spirit we need to produce until we die. I hope Christians don't just settle to be counted as righteous and not abide in obedience to Jesus's word to grow in the Spirit, the kingdom of God grows in us and it is manifested in LOVE, and this is the gospel.
In the last 300 year or so, we have seen advances in medicine, technology, engineering, behavioral and social sciences -even in the humanities- that save lives, make life easier, facilitate communications, calculate the age of the Earth, and so on. This makes me wonder, what advances have theology and religious philosophy made about God and what benefits have we received from that new knowledge?
Estuche - The question I ask myself is: what advances have *I* made in my own theology and understanding? I have been studying Romans intensively for about 3 years and just came across Mike's sermon on 3:21-28 and it is spot on! It's realy hard to JUST READ THE BIBLE. But I find that the more I read and memorize and ponder and see the connections, I grow - and, as Mike says, I see my sin all the more and I see God's free gift in Jesus all the MORE!
@@charlescfap Amen, brother. I congratulate you on your quest for truth. Since you seem to be a learned Christian, may I ask how do you interpret and feel about this passage from Romans? Romans 9:14-24 For he says to Moses, “I will be merciful to the person I want to be merciful to, and I will be kind to the person I want to be kind to. 16 Therefore, God’s choice does not depend on a person’s will or effort, but on God himself, who shows mercy. 17 For the Scripture says about Pharaoh: “I have raised you up for this very purpose, to demonstrate my power through you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.18 Therefore, God has mercy on whomever he chooses, and he hardens the heart of whomever he chooses. God Chose People who are Not Jewish 19 You may ask me, “Then why does God still find fault with anybody? For who can resist his will?” 20 On the contrary, who are you-mere man that you are-to talk back to God? Can an object that was molded say to the one who molded it, “Why did you make me like this?” 21 A potter has the right to do what he wants to with his clay, doesn’t he? He can make something for a special occasion or something for ordinary use from the same lump of clay. 22 Now if God wants to demonstrate his wrath and reveal his power, can’t he be extremely patient with the objects of his wrath that are made for destruction? How are we to know who will not receive His mercy? What if we, you or I, were made for destruction? Shall we just accept His will and resign to go to hell since that is His wish and we have not authority to question it let alone change it? I’d appreciate your thoughts on this. Now, I know you only mentioned Romans, but I also find this short verse in Hebrews interesting. Hebrews 9:22 “And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission”. Why is the shedding of blood so important to God? Does He derive pleasure from human suffering as He used to in the Old Testament with the scent of burn flesh? I find extremely weird that God found burn flesh pleasing and then, at some point He found bloody sacrifice the right token for forgiveness, I am alone on this? I rather forgive an offence when presented with a sincere, contrite, restorative and loving apology, not a bloody punishment, but then I am not God and don’t quite understand His appetite for blood and suffering. Any ideas on that?
@@estuchedepeluche2212 It's a bit strange that you ask why there is no forgiveness of sins without the shedding of blood by quoting Hebrews 9:22 when exactly that is explained in the verses right before that.
@@friedrichrubinstein I am sure it is interesting, but the whole chapter 9 just says that blood cleans sin, that death is necessary, and provides some analogies, but that is not the answer I was looking for. I want to know the emotional and justice reason for that being. When someone I love hurts me, I don't wish them to bleed, suffer or die, but to acknowledge the pain they caused, seek reconciliation and mend the relation if they want to continue it. God seems to be able to forgive only if there is a bloody sacrifice, and not just of the offender/sinner, but He requires a superior and innocent being such as Himself -His Son- to be tortured, killed, buried and resurrected, so that the sinner gets a break, granted he has to repent, admit total helplessness of his situation, and accept that the sacrifice was made for his sake. That to me sounds like a guilt trip! That is all.
@@estuchedepeluche2212 God cannot just forgive anyone because of his very nature. He is perfectly just. Just like a human judge cannot say to the criminal "no problem, I'm in a good mood today, you can go home" - that wouldn't be justice. Justice has to be served, someone has to pay. We're all criminals who deserve to be put to death, and just like a criminal cannot pay for another criminal when both deserve death we cannot pay for one another. The only one who could pay in our place is someone who doesn't deserve death. And that is Jesus - the only one who never committed a sin. Because he is blameless he can bear our punishment. Justice required the death of the criminal (which is the shedding of blood), and forgiveness requires a sacrifice, someone who bears the punishment and is sentenced to death for the criminal, so that justice is served. The only way to achieve all of this, demanded by God's own nature of being perfectly just and loving at the same time, was for Him to become a human Himself and sacrifice Himself for us. God sacrificed his own Son to serve justice and be able to forgive us.
5:30 Hey Mike I agree with what your were saying about gaining righteousness apart from the law bc he came to fulfill it not to abolish it, and that's him creating a pathway for salvation. I know he has covenants with the Jews and he has the new covenant for gentiles. Gene Kim was teaching on this that the old testament doesn't matter and that God turned his back on the Jews and that the ten commandments were for the Jews among other things. This was his teaching on keeping the Sabbath. I lost it and pointed out this verse Rev 12:17 "Then the dragon became furious with the woman and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS of God AND hold to the testimony of Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea." I think this means just believing in Jesus isn't enough we have to obey. Obeying isn't trying to earn your way into heaven it's the fruit of being graphed into the vine. Dr Kim has it really twisted prob lots of other ppl too. You should check out that Sabbath keeping video it's such blasphemy. I used to like that guy. I highly esteem you for rightly dividing the word, that is all ;-}>
The Greek word for "Glory" is "Doxa", which primarily means, "View and opinion". We come short of God's view and opinion - not because we don't shine like He does.
Someone, please, tell me why my NASB says, "bruise his head," (Gen.3:15). I learned it differently as a child. I learned that He would crush the serpent's head. Mike uses the word I know.
bruise and crush often come from the same original language word, for example Isaiah 53:10. KJV says it pleased the LORD to bruise Him. I believe the ESV says it pleased the LORD to crush Him. Two drastically different words in our day, but I haven't studied this enough to know why the difference in translation.
A- . Despite your magnificent sermons everytime there's an opportunity where I here you in my heart preach hebrews 10 26-31 you interestingly skip right over a very important part of being saved through grace by faith in our lord Yahusha Hamashiach. Great sermon but A-.
Did OT jews understand Yahweh would enter humanity as Messiah? Or is this understanding a hind sight proposition? Any Talmudic tradition shows the Messiah as Deity entering the human form? We can make this claim only in hindsight. Unless Im missing something.
Great Stuff, just wish you spent more time on propitiation and its pagan background and then how Paul turns it on its head using it to describe the work of the cross.
@@elizabethtassonecuprunneth7882 Sorry it took me a year to get back with you on your question. Here is the short of it, considering the venue we have here. Propitiation means to appease or placate. The pagans would do this to get what they needed from the gods, such as make their wives futile, keep disease away from their home, provide rain for a good crop and stay off the locusts. For the most part, these gods were more human than humans in that their emotions ran them. They could be very capricious. So for the most part, one didn't want to come under the scrutiny of their god/s. Because now they could be in harms way. But they needed the help from their gods for their own benefit. Notice that they brought the sacrifice and the blood was offered the god to appease them, get them off their back and get what they needed from them. This picture seems to stand in the way of the appeasement of Jesus' cross. But when you realize that it was God who brought the sacrifice and not you or I and that He Himself was the appeasement the whole pagan idea is turned on its head. Also, the blood was not for God. He was not looking for His pound of flesh. Instead, the blood shed was for you and me in order to reconcile us back to God. It was for our benefit, not for God's. Paul shows us something not seen in the pagan sacrifices. Not us who sacrificed to appease God, but God who sacrificed to restore us. The anthem the heavenly host sings to Jesus in Rev. 5, "“Worthy are You to take the book and to break its seals; for You were slain, and purchased for God with Your blood men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation" tells it all. Praise God that He put forth His Son as a propitiation and by His cross showed He was just and the justifier of the one who would have faith in what Jesus did for us on the cross.
Mike Winger God bless you for your teaching! One thing you may call hairsplitting, but a muslim that gets born again can no longer be called a muslim ( a subject of allah). So a saved muslim can not exist. But a saved arab can.🤓
Watching this in 2021 because I'm going through Romans verse-by-verse and I'm realizing it's such a full, meaty,whole book. Thank you for letting God use you.
2022. We are going through Romans chapter by chapter as a small group. His sermons are always helpful
Oct 2022 😊🎉
June 2023 learning and teaching others the Book of Romans verse by verse
@@Jeenapodcasti am going through romans rn and romans 1 was probably one of the longest studies i’ve ever done. it’s just full of important theology
Hey Mike! Just want to say thank you for all the content. I'm a Youth pastor and use your studies as one of many resources before teaching the youth at my Church. Keep your eyes on the author and finisher of your faith. God bless!
Just wanted to point out this quote @ 18:05
"Name the people you think can't be saved, and that's where you're not Christian."
An OVERWHELMING amen to this, Mike. God bless.
I’m going through you series on Roman’s for the second time. This time with a bit more bible education under my belt and this is amazing. Thank for your humble words.
I'm watching this two years after you preached this, and I am so blessed by your teaching. Thank you for uploading videos constantly to TH-cam for free. You make the Bible so clear!
I'm watching 4 years later! So very good and proves that the Holy Word of God stands the test of time.
What a great sermon! Mike is one of my absolute favourite speakers/teachers. So glad i found his site.
I just want to say that I love your videos Mike. Skimming through the comments for this video really surprised me how much hate there is. Every time I watch one of your videos I feel encouraged and enlightened to the truth of the bible and how it applies to today's cultural landscape. I think the hate is an indication that you're doing the right thing. Keep 'em coming.
+epyonyx thank you!
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I wish I could find a church with verse by verse teaching like yours in my city... 😔
justKenzie I bet they are out there. Pray for God to bring you to people who believe His word and love Him. Praying you find one or a Bible study or something to get in fellowship
Where are located? Maybe I could assist.
JustKenzie you could facilitate a bible study in your home and see what God does in your local
Make Naked Bible podcast your friend.
Come watch our equip service that is intended to help “equip” believers to become disciples who disciple. My church is called Pinnacle Community Church in Amarillo Tx. You can watch it on FB.
I am a Christian and I am proud of it , thanks be to Jesus Christ.
A great teaching. I am loving these teachings on Romans. Thank you so much for your faithfulness to the Gospel!
I cannot believe I have found this channel...this is amazing
Sameee
Did you find it or were You led to it? Me too btw 🤣😃
I agree with you pastor Mark , everyone who believe will be save
"Impartation, it's not the process of becoming an imp", best thing I heard all day🤙🏾
This teaching touched my heart and opened my eyes to so many things! But mostly to how greatly I am loved by my Creator. Thank you.
Father God thank you for the work you do in my life through this channel.
Thank you so much for your clear verse by verse teaching and sound doctrine.
I love this word brother! I just taught this same thing to my Sunday class. Very encouraging this amazing message of the gospel and the power of his saving grace.
Ps 7:11 God is angry with the wicked everyday. Praise God for His Grace...
I get excited and look forward to his videos .
Mike thanks so much for all these wonderful videos. I’m blessed through them. I’m learning real, reformed theology through them. I planned studying theology in a seminary in Germany 🇩🇪, watching your videos which I’m somewhat addicted to recently encourages me and enlightened me a lot. Please keep the good work, you’re terrifically blessing many souls out there and I’m definitely one of them. God bless you too.
Great explanation of Romans 3. Thank you for posting.
Hi Mike
I just want to say thank you - for the teachings you bring us. This particular message and this series as a whole is excellent.
I am a "fallen" pastor - the grace and truth of these messages is both refreshing, affirming, challenging and convicting. God bless you greatly bro!
In the book The Hiding Place by Corrie Ten Boom there is the part where her mother lay dying and those around her were talking about all her good works. How she fed people and visited the sick and taught the feeble minded and Corrie's mother says, "No, I thank God when I go to him it will be with empty hands." All our good works pale in comparison to the righteousness in Jesus. Love the book of Romans. I was found by Jesus and saved through reading Romans.
God bless you Mike for preaching the real gospel
Good word brother! I would only add or "critique" this message just to add more depth to the description of the grace of God...we were not "dying" and then God saved us through Christ, but we were "dead" in our sins and transgressions.
Wow amazing. I’m so glad I found this Chanel, thank you blessings.
Thanks Pastor Mike
Shout Grace Grace!! at every mountain of sin that stands between you and God.
Thank you for this video. I’m conducting bible study tonight on this chapter and really need this insight! Blessings!!!
I appreciate your teaching so much! Thank you for posting! ☺️
All glory to God. As always Pastor Mike, thank you.
Amen, I only can thank God it wasn't the flesh of me it was nobody but The Kingdom of heaven... Thank you God in ME
@Mike Thank you so much for posting. I give God praise for you taking time put to do this. May the Lord richly bless you
This series keeps getting better and better, see y'all on the other side!
Thank you for the explaination. I am blessed. GBU.
Amazing insightful teaching.
I'm so thankful for this channel.
Amen, excellent sermon. Many dont understand this and it is not teached much.
God bless you Mike. God bless you real good. You are a blessing
Love it!.... coming back for more like a good meal
Thank you so much . Very informative and understandable . God bless
Definitely subscribed, I found my teacher.
There is one thing we can boast in and that is Our Wonderful and Glorious God included us in His Perfect Plan! Yes, He Loves Us! : )
thank you so much and praise the GOD
Propitiation is basically like in this following example. A king, who has authority over his subjects (of course) is attacked by one of his subjects. The king has the right, then, to have that subject put to death. However, he doesn't really want this person to die, so he tells this subject that if he will, say, clean the houses of everyone in the kingdom over the next five years, then he'll be set free. (Of course, he'll be under guard during this time, not being free to leave the kingdom.) That is the propitiation; it's what the king requires to be appeased.
In a similar vein, the wages of sin is death, and the soul that sins shall die. We have each sinned, and we each deserve to die and to undergo the second death mentioned in Revelation, which is eternal damnation. However, God--our King, our Authority--doesn't want us to die, so He provided us with a way out. He determined what needed to be done as propitiation, to "appease" Him from damning us all. He in His Son died in our place, even though He never sinned, and if we believe that and love and submit to and follow the Son, then we are set free. Believing (trusting) in Him is our propitiation. It's what the offended Authority says will "appease" Him or make Him willing to forego our damnation. (With God, He even brings us into His presence for all eternity, going beyond propitiation and forgiveness!)
It's also kind of like you owing a bank more money than you can pay, and the bank says, okay, just pay us half and we'll call it even. You pay the half, and the loan is cleared. It isn't marked "paid in full" because it wasn't paid in full. (That would be lying.) Rather, the remaining balance on the loan is simply eliminated. It's kind of got the concept of propitiation there, although I'm not sure a bank can ask for propitiation. I think it's more for someone like a king or a god, someone with that kind of authority, due that kind of respect.
Of course, if the subject in the first paragraph doesn't clean the houses, or if someone dies physically without believing in Jesus, or if the person doesn't pay back half of the loan, then the conditions of the propitiation have not been met, and the original negative consequence remains (physical death for #1, eternal damnation for #2, perhaps jail or repossession of property for #3).
Basic outline: Authority is done against. The Authority provides a means of propitiation, how to make it right. The offending person meets the terms of the propitiation and is exonerated, or the person does not meet them and receives the due negative consequences. The propitiation is whatever the offended authority determines.
Praise and worship God.
Appreciate your teaching
It's nice to get info of Jewish Christians now and then. We don't get mentioned very often.
Mike - thanks! This is quite a summation of Paul's argument through this section as it stands within the whole epistle. What to me is sad is that this is 'going deep' - to simply read and understand what has been written. How few Christians can define Justification, Redemption, Propitiation, Grace, Imputation, Righteousness, etc.? Very few in my own experience of asking them to define these terms that are the foudation of our understanding of God and Christ. Now, admittedly, Paul packs a TON of stuff into some 170 words here, so one has to read, think, research, learn, re-read, etc. a LOT to get hold of these truths because each word is just what it ought to be. As Strunk and White say: Be concise, be concise, be concise. (though in many places I would have liked to have had a good editor)
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Good.knowledge God bless you
God bless you brother
thank you for the video. i appreciate the effort. i appreciate the teaching!
Listening to you was like hearing my own reflections on God spoken aloud. It is truly beautiful to know someone who walks in the same Spirit as yourself. When I was in my early twenties, I did perhaps the only wise thing in my life, I read the bible in its entirety. I prayed that God would hide his Word in my heart, and I prayed that even should I stray, he would bring me back. I strayed hard after that though. For almost a decade I lived in sin. Yet almost not a day went by that I did not think about God and His word, and I would cry out regularly to him. I had trouble reconciling my sinful nature with my faith in Christ, and it caused me to stumble hard. I somehow thought that because I continued to sin so grievously despite having been saved, I was hopeless, and I became lost. Lately my prayer has been that God will fill me up with an unending love for Him, and He is answering in a big way. I now suddenly understand that before Christ, I lived IN sin, bound to it, unable to escape it. Now I understand that now that I live in Christ, I merely live WITH sin. God has poured out his grace on me, because like you said, I know me. He has blessed me at every turn. I know that these understandings are not really my own, but rather what He has shown me through his word, and through my life. I love my God, and I know how little I deserve His love in return, but I thank Jesus that he does! That is why I have my hope in Christ, to be made pure and new in him someday. I love you, thank you for this message and God bless you!
I’m cracking up about “imputation” not being the process of becoming an imp!!! Lol
Read this comment AS he said it 😂😂😂
I am dying, I hope I resurrect!
It’s a memorable line! 😂
Found your channel happen chance. I like the cut of you jib, bro. Good work. I look forward to watching more from your channel.
God bless you, Brother, for these teachings!
Wow, I've listened to a quite a few of your sermons, I like them all, but this one really hit home for me. Justified freely by his grace. The holy hands part really brought it home for me. Thank you so much for what you do. God bless you from San Diego. One question though, do you believe a Christian can lose their salvation? Do you have a video on this? Thanks!
This has always been a big debate between Christians. The Bible tells us that God knew us before we were born. We are also told their is a book of Life in which the names of those are saved..... so unless you think God has a pencil and eraser constantly adding and erasing names, it stands to reason that once saved always saved. The question is, is your name written in the Book of Life?
Hi, I read where it says in John 3 that God wishes that none perish, that all come to repentance. For I did not send My Son into the world to condemn it but that the world through Him could be saved.
When we are saved we enter into a covenant with God. We surrender our lives to His ways, we die to self will, we make Jesus our LORD, Master Who guides us into the righteousness of Christ. We believe with our hearts, not our emotions.
It's a commitment we freely choose.
When a believer chooses to no longer honor the commitment, the person chooses to leave God and return to their own ways.
The Holy Spirit will continue to draw them because God is faithful, but if the person does not desire to return then the name is removed from the Lamb's Book Of Life.
They deserted God.
Yes but also No. You can lose it, But ONLY if you choose to no longer have faith in:(trust in, rely soley upon) what Jesus for completely taking your wrath upon himself. Its a done deal. Do you accept that, or Not? I personally do not like the term "once saved, always saved" for that very reason. You can change what you believe. But as Mike laid out clearly in this video, it is by faith alone. Romans 11:6 puts it plainly as well.
If there was even 1 thing that you HAD to refrain from doing, or to keep on doing to save yourself, then Christ's death was PURPOSELESS. You would also have something to BOAST about. Mike clearly dismantled that argument. We are all truly losers. Jesus just chose to give is a gift of righteousness, because he loves us.
That is my opinion on the matter. I struggled with this exact question FOR A LONG Time. Watching Mike's videos has completely changed my mind on the matter.
@@MrBlakeleyden thanks. what video did he make where he discusses this? I appreciate your time in your response to me. God bless.
Lost faith (apostasy from Christ) equals lost salvation. Saved by grace through faith. Keep your faith in Him and you will be saved. Hebrews 10
Now faith is made complete by the fruit it produces but one is saved before the fruit manifests. Just as Abraham received the promise by faith and later that faith was proven genuine by the sacrifice of Isaac.
Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, who through faith are shielded by God’s power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. In all this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in all kinds of trials.
These have come so that the proven genuineness of your faith-of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire-may result in praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed.
Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy, for you are receiving the end result of your faith, the salvation of your souls.
Concerning this salvation, the prophets, who spoke of the grace that was to come to you, searched intently and with the greatest care, trying to find out the time and circumstances to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when he predicted the sufferings of the Messiah and the glories that would follow. It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves but you, when they spoke of the things that have now been told you by those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven.
Even angels long to look into these things.
Therefore, with minds that are alert and fully sober, set your hope on the grace to be brought to you when Jesus Christ is revealed at his coming.
As obedient children, do not conform to the evil desires you had when you lived in ignorance. for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.”
Since you call on a Father who judges each person’s work justly, live out your time as foreigners here in reverent fear. For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your ancestors, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect. He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
Through him you believe in God, who raised him from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God.
Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for each other, love one another deeply, from the heart. For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God.
For, “All people are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of the Lord endures forever.” And this is the word that was preached to you.
1 Peter 1:3-14, 16-25
Be sure your faith is real because only real faith saves.
God talks about this saving faith through James in James chapter 2 and this kind of saving faith is demonstrated in Hebrews 11.
The first fruit of true faith is a born again, spiritual heart change from the Lord. Your desires shift toward righteousness, not as a way to prove how good you are but because of what God has done for you and in you.
You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love. For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.
So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want.
But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this (make a practice of these things) will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.
Galatians 5:13-26
Once the change is done for you, and in you, by grace through faith, the fruit which follows is what God is now doing through you to bless His people and to reach out to broken and fallen people whom the Lord seeks to redeem.
We must learn of Him and grow intimately with God through pray and His word in order to get in line with His will a d the work He is doing in and through us.
Our freedom comes, as Jesus said to the believing Jews, by holding to ( believing and living out) His teaching. Then we will know the truth and the truth will set us free. John 8:31-32
We have confidence in what we hope for and assurance about the promises, even though we don't physically see them yet because the one who made the promise is faithful.
Be faithful out of joy and thanksgiving for the gift given; knowing that He will finish the good work He started, even if it doesn't always feel that way.
This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin. If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.
1 John 1:5-10
My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father-Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them. For everything in the world-the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life-comes not from the Father but from the world. The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever.
And now, dear children, continue in him, so that when he appears we may be confident and unashamed before him at his coming. If you know that he is righteous, you know that everyone who does what is right has been born of him.
1 John 2:1-2, 15-17, 28-29
“The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!”
Mark 1:15
Hi pastor Mike Winger thanks for good teaching you giving us, it is really helpful and enlightening. I have been wondering what could it be that when it comes to salvation we have to believe to be saved and with sin , we didn't have to believe to be sinner, we became sinners cause we were born physically under Adam who sin. Does Adam sin run in our blood stream because of physically birth, please explain why the processes are slightly different 🙏
As a born-again ex muslim, I am very thankful that Mike mentioned that. It's also humbling because I feel that way about the homosexual and transgender controversy these days.
Thank you.
Very good
First principles very good indeed
the best preserved book, enoch. a popular book in jesus time- yes they read scripture...
I know I’m 5 years late on this, but I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on the “Pistis Christou” interpretation of v22. The “faithfulness OF Christ,” rather than “faith IN Christ.” I tend to lean the former but I’d love to hear your insight
The jews had their teachers but not of them really understood although a deep knowledge was assumed : Jesus however as a small boy ,was able to debate them.
But, not finding him, they returned to Jerusalem, making a diligent search for him. 46 Well, after three days they found him in the temple,+ sitting in the midst of the teachers and listening to them and questioning them. 47 But all those listening to him were in constant amazement at his understanding and his answers.
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When you said "name the people who you think can't be saved", I thought instantly of famously evil dead people. Because dead people can't be saved, obviously. And then you clarify that you're thinking of live people, which makes more sense, since anybody can be saved while they still have future choices and chances.
So if I am saved by faith alone (a Protestant doctrine), why do I need to work out my salvation with fear and trembling?…
Philippians 2:12 NKJV
Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, 👉work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
…maybe because I am not saved by faith alone, but by good works of faith done in Christ, not that I can boast in myself…
James 2:24 NKJV
You see then that a man is *justified by works*, and not by faith only.
All praise and glory to God.
@@christ-resurrected finish the verse you initially quoted, it answers itself. Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling… for it is God who works in you both to will and to do his good pleasure.” He does the work, we just trust in his goodness
Wonderful
What day does it say that the bible book contest is Yolanda Torrez and her family! Will be finally recognized and truth will be known to her and her family?
Love this
This study is so important. All the historical facts and touching down on how God died is psalms 22 which is proof for Muslims and Jehovah Witnesses who claim he didn't die or that it was a pole not a cross. Writings sounds of Jesus but found to be written before God entered his creation as Jesus Christ.
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If Justification has two components the cleansing of sin an imputed righteousness, wouldn't it make sense that the righteousness imputed is the Holy Spirit? This would simplify the, 'is it by grace or by works', debate. We are cleansed so we can receive the promise of the Spirit so we can live righteous lives.
KJV brother
Mike can you do a video covering Roman’s 3:25 people are saying that Christ did not die for all sins only past ones and using this verse. I personally think that might be Blasphemous to Jesus Christ but idk
Amen from Palestine about the Muslims!!
17:47 The Muslims have just as much right to be saved as anyone else. Because of their religious ways, they seeing the TRUTH, find intimacy with CHRIST. Let us find this intense relationship with HIM.
Blogging Theology have some really good videos with Bible Scholars.
Thanks Pastor Mike for your gift in teaching plainly, on Minute 42:35 you meant to say Hebrews 7:25 ( not 11:25) ! I send your teaching to as many as I can always to help keep tracking! Blessings !
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Mike,
I just want to make emphasis on the passage on Romans 3:23 "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" I have never heard this be explained satisfactory, expositors fly through this passage without going into it. No one responds to the question this verse possess, what does it mean to fall short of the glory of God? According to my understanding from Paul's writings, basically it says that God cannot give us of His Glory because of our sin. This is not foreign to the gospel since Paul constantly preaches the glory that is to be revealed in us at His coming and that we are growing day by day in the spirit and showing the glory of the Lord in us. Jesus allows the Father to treat us as righteous but it does not stop there. Even though the Father treat as as righteous, and by faith and repentance He gives us the Holy Spirit which is who gives us the capacity to grow in righteousness, we need to grow in LOVE the type of love described in 1 Corinthians 13. I suggest to you the parable of the talents as a word to Christians so that we know we need to grow in LOVE which is the Fruit of the Spirit we need to produce until we die. I hope Christians don't just settle to be counted as righteous and not abide in obedience to Jesus's word to grow in the Spirit, the kingdom of God grows in us and it is manifested in LOVE, and this is the gospel.
In the last 300 year or so, we have seen advances in medicine, technology, engineering, behavioral and social sciences -even in the humanities- that save lives, make life easier, facilitate communications, calculate the age of the Earth, and so on. This makes me wonder, what advances have theology and religious philosophy made about God and what benefits have we received from that new knowledge?
Estuche - The question I ask myself is: what advances have *I* made in my own theology and understanding? I have been studying Romans intensively for about 3 years and just came across Mike's sermon on 3:21-28 and it is spot on! It's realy hard to JUST READ THE BIBLE. But I find that the more I read and memorize and ponder and see the connections, I grow - and, as Mike says, I see my sin all the more and I see God's free gift in Jesus all the MORE!
@@charlescfap Amen, brother. I congratulate you on your quest for truth. Since you seem to be a learned Christian, may I ask how do you interpret and feel about this passage from Romans?
Romans 9:14-24 For he says to Moses, “I will be merciful to the person I want to be merciful to, and I will be kind to the person I want to be kind to. 16 Therefore, God’s choice does not depend on a person’s will or effort, but on God himself, who shows mercy. 17 For the Scripture says about Pharaoh: “I have raised you up for this very purpose, to demonstrate my power through you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.18 Therefore, God has mercy on whomever he chooses, and he hardens the heart of whomever he chooses. God Chose People who are Not Jewish 19 You may ask me, “Then why does God still find fault with anybody? For who can resist his will?” 20 On the contrary, who are you-mere man that you are-to talk back to God? Can an object that was molded say to the one who molded it, “Why did you make me like this?” 21 A potter has the right to do what he wants to with his clay, doesn’t he? He can make something for a special occasion or something for ordinary use from the same lump of clay. 22 Now if God wants to demonstrate his wrath and reveal his power, can’t he be extremely patient with the objects of his wrath that are made for destruction?
How are we to know who will not receive His mercy? What if we, you or I, were made for destruction? Shall we just accept His will and resign to go to hell since that is His wish and we have not authority to question it let alone change it? I’d appreciate your thoughts on this.
Now, I know you only mentioned Romans, but I also find this short verse in Hebrews interesting.
Hebrews 9:22 “And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission”. Why is the shedding of blood so important to God? Does He derive pleasure from human suffering as He used to in the Old Testament with the scent of burn flesh? I find extremely weird that God found burn flesh pleasing and then, at some point He found bloody sacrifice the right token for forgiveness, I am alone on this? I rather forgive an offence when presented with a sincere, contrite, restorative and loving apology, not a bloody punishment, but then I am not God and don’t quite understand His appetite for blood and suffering. Any ideas on that?
@@estuchedepeluche2212 It's a bit strange that you ask why there is no forgiveness of sins without the shedding of blood by quoting Hebrews 9:22 when exactly that is explained in the verses right before that.
@@friedrichrubinstein I am sure it is interesting, but the whole chapter 9 just says that blood cleans sin, that death is necessary, and provides some analogies, but that is not the answer I was looking for. I want to know the emotional and justice reason for that being. When someone I love hurts me, I don't wish them to bleed, suffer or die, but to acknowledge the pain they caused, seek reconciliation and mend the relation if they want to continue it. God seems to be able to forgive only if there is a bloody sacrifice, and not just of the offender/sinner, but He requires a superior and innocent being such as Himself -His Son- to be tortured, killed, buried and resurrected, so that the sinner gets a break, granted he has to repent, admit total helplessness of his situation, and accept that the sacrifice was made for his sake. That to me sounds like a guilt trip! That is all.
@@estuchedepeluche2212 God cannot just forgive anyone because of his very nature. He is perfectly just. Just like a human judge cannot say to the criminal "no problem, I'm in a good mood today, you can go home" - that wouldn't be justice. Justice has to be served, someone has to pay. We're all criminals who deserve to be put to death, and just like a criminal cannot pay for another criminal when both deserve death we cannot pay for one another. The only one who could pay in our place is someone who doesn't deserve death. And that is Jesus - the only one who never committed a sin. Because he is blameless he can bear our punishment.
Justice required the death of the criminal (which is the shedding of blood), and forgiveness requires a sacrifice, someone who bears the punishment and is sentenced to death for the criminal, so that justice is served.
The only way to achieve all of this, demanded by God's own nature of being perfectly just and loving at the same time, was for Him to become a human Himself and sacrifice Himself for us. God sacrificed his own Son to serve justice and be able to forgive us.
What day is it prophecized that God does in the flesh?
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What Bible version do you read from? So I can follow you easier. Lol
+Christcenteredjenn I currently am using the New King James Version.
5:30 Hey Mike I agree with what your were saying about gaining righteousness apart from the law bc he came to fulfill it not to abolish it, and that's him creating a pathway for salvation. I know he has covenants with the Jews and he has the new covenant for gentiles. Gene Kim was teaching on this that the old testament doesn't matter and that God turned his back on the Jews and that the ten commandments were for the Jews among other things. This was his teaching on keeping the Sabbath. I lost it and pointed out this verse
Rev 12:17 "Then the dragon became furious with the woman and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS of God AND hold to the testimony of Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea." I think this means just believing in Jesus isn't enough we have to obey. Obeying isn't trying to earn your way into heaven it's the fruit of being graphed into the vine. Dr Kim has it really twisted prob lots of other ppl too. You should check out that Sabbath keeping video it's such blasphemy. I used to like that guy. I highly esteem you for rightly dividing the word, that is all ;-}>
The Greek word for "Glory" is "Doxa", which primarily means, "View and opinion". We come short of God's view and opinion - not because we don't shine like He does.
Someone, please, tell me why my NASB says, "bruise his head," (Gen.3:15). I learned it differently as a child. I learned that He would crush the serpent's head.
Mike uses the word I know.
bruise and crush often come from the same original language word, for example Isaiah 53:10. KJV says it pleased the LORD to bruise Him. I believe the ESV says it pleased the LORD to crush Him. Two drastically different words in our day, but I haven't studied this enough to know why the difference in translation.
Why do we say God “poured out His wrath” on Christ?
cuz we're all losers. love it. lol. humility is important. so important.
What is your educational background Mike?
A- . Despite your magnificent sermons everytime there's an opportunity where I here you in my heart preach hebrews 10 26-31 you interestingly skip right over a very important part of being saved through grace by faith in our lord Yahusha Hamashiach. Great sermon but A-.
What Bible was used in here cause I truly tried to follow along with the Niv version
I think it was the NKJV
in 2 esdras and 2 baruch much more were revealed, but helpful teachers removed those books also....
Did OT jews understand Yahweh would enter humanity as Messiah?
Or is this understanding a hind sight proposition? Any Talmudic tradition shows the Messiah as Deity entering the human form?
We can make this claim only in hindsight. Unless Im missing something.
Great Stuff, just wish you spent more time on propitiation and its pagan background and then how Paul turns it on its head using it to describe the work of the cross.
Karl Wagner can you explain this more?
@@elizabethtassonecuprunneth7882 Sorry it took me a year to get back with you on your question. Here is the short of it, considering the venue we have here. Propitiation means to appease or placate. The pagans would do this to get what they needed from the gods, such as make their wives futile, keep disease away from their home, provide rain for a good crop and stay off the locusts. For the most part, these gods were more human than humans in that their emotions ran them. They could be very capricious. So for the most part, one didn't want to come under the scrutiny of their god/s. Because now they could be in harms way. But they needed the help from their gods for their own benefit. Notice that they brought the sacrifice and the blood was offered the god to appease them, get them off their back and get what they needed from them. This picture seems to stand in the way of the appeasement of Jesus' cross. But when you realize that it was God who brought the sacrifice and not you or I and that He Himself was the appeasement the whole pagan idea is turned on its head. Also, the blood was not for God. He was not looking for His pound of flesh. Instead, the blood shed was for you and me in order to reconcile us back to God. It was for our benefit, not for God's. Paul shows us something not seen in the pagan sacrifices. Not us who sacrificed to appease God, but God who sacrificed to restore us. The anthem the heavenly host sings to Jesus in Rev. 5, "“Worthy are You to take the book and to break its seals; for You were slain, and purchased for God with Your blood men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation" tells it all. Praise God that He put forth His Son as a propitiation and by His cross showed He was just and the justifier of the one who would have faith in what Jesus did for us on the cross.
I hope I could have a copy of your notes 😅
Mike Winger God bless you for your teaching! One thing you may call hairsplitting, but a muslim that gets born again can no longer be called a muslim ( a subject of allah). So a saved muslim can not exist. But a saved arab can.🤓
the computer shut down and the list of what is next did not come back up....
19:05 got me in the gut while I was gargling mouthwash. 🤦🏾♂️😂
We All fall short.. But, at least he's lost his "Intellectual Virginity". Keep going forward!