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- Trauma surgeon and Navy veteran Dr. Peter Rhee rates 10 battlefield medical scenes in movies and television for realism.
Dr. Rhee discusses the accuracy of medical war scenes in “Hacksaw Ridge” (2016), starring Andrew Garfield; “Three Kings” (1999), featuring Mark Wahlberg and George Clooney; “Saving Private Ryan” (1998), featuring Tom Hanks; and “Cherry” (2021) with Tom Holland. He also comments on the reality of bullet and grenade wounds in “Black Hawk Down” (2001), “Band of Brothers” (2001), and “M*A*S*H” (1973) and analyzes combat medical procedures in “The Outpost” (2020), “Our Girl” (2014), and “Combat Hospital” (2011).
Dr. Peter Rhee is a trauma surgeon and a veteran of the United States Navy, where he served for 24 years. He is currently the chief of acute care surgery and trauma at the Westchester Medical Center. He wrote the book "Trauma Red" about his experience as a trauma surgeon.
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Military Trauma Surgeon Rates 10 Battle Wounds In Movies & TV | How Real Is It?
Army Medic here, I love how this guy differentiated us grunt medics from surgeons. I get asked about random medical conditions all the time, my answer is always "I have no idea, my job is to keep air moving in your lungs, keep juice in your veins, and get the casualty to someone who can do this better than me!"
No offense big dawg, but I'm a Medic too. Medics are expected to have clinical knowledge. Nowadays Medics need to be able to sit on a casualty for 36 hours and keep them alive. If all you know how to do is what CLS learn in a week. You're cutting yourself and your joes very short.
@@luisprado7107 I completely agree! The name of the game in the modern battlefield with a near peer enemy is prolonged field care and nursing skills as well as TCCC. Just saying that many civilians view combat medics on the same level as surgeons, when they are a much higher echelon of care.
@@TheSourestKraut Average civilian generally has little to know medical training as a reference point. If you do 'doctor stuff' you're as good as a doctor or a trauma surgeon to them. At least in their minds.
"A doctor heals you. A medic just makes you more comfortable... as you die."
-Doc, Red vs. Blue
Jokes aside, I'm no doctor, but the first step in saving a person is keeping them alive for the time being. It doesn't matter if they're en route to the best hospital in the world if they bleed out on the way there.
Oh I see, I also had this belief that medics were full on doctors. It must like being an engineer and getting asked to fix wifi or a printer lol
I just want to say thank you to Dr. Rhee, he saved my cousin's life and is the reason he still has the use of his right leg.
That’s absolutely awesome!!!!
Ehhh I have my doubt.
@@Zayn-kg4bu you must have heard that a lot while growing up
source: just trust me
@@aaronwentaway there’s no reason to lie about it though???
I've worked with Dr.Rhee in a level 1 trauma center in the States and can attest to what he saying. He's legit, professional, and efficient. He'll be in critical trauma situation and speaking to you just like this, calm and collect. I loved working with him and learned a lot.
I Didnt know you were a veteran Patrick! Thank you for you service!
@@BenFaffler thanks now I'm imagining patrick in the military and...oh well that's just your average marine isn't it?
@@caseyb1346 So Patrick did find the military in the end after the desaster of Squidwards "Restaurant"...
Also thank you for your service, actual person behind Patrick^^
I didn't know Bikini Bottom had a Level 1 trauma center...
@@breezyjr They have Spongebob Squarepants there.
He is reason enough to have one^^
It's so cool how calm he is talking about stuff that would make most people pass out if they see it
Thats an experienced professional right there, exactly the guy I would want working on me if I was badly wounded
its not making most people pass out when they see that stuff. some people do. but it ofcourse depends. i used to have someone in ckass as a kid who would go down seeing a vew drops of blood😅. but most people keep it together unless there is some crazy stuff going on. and the smell of blood probably does not help😂
when i see or feel something very painfull. i usually start laughing while crying and its weird. but i guess it helps me deal with it. kinda funny
@@theflyingdutchguy9870 we get it you're a cool guy.🙄
@@eyelessjack3406 you really think so? or do people have weaker stomaches than i realised
*Love how he explained what they would and wouldn't do in the military and civilian scenarios* Alot of people don't understand how tenacious it is to be a surgeon let alone one in an extremely high stress fast pace environment like the military. Very knowledgeable breakdowns. Thank you for your service.
If you are a military surgeon, it is very unlikely you will get sue. Also, their goal are save life in a very bad situation, recovery and quality of life usually push aside.
@@Theoryofcatsndogs they won't get sued due to Feres doctrine
Firstly, *a lot. Second of all, that's not at all how you use the word tenacious.
@@jamesloder8652 Aw thanks for caring so much.
Seems as though *A lot* of people understood my comment and I didn't need a tenacious hold on the English language to do so. 😁
@@Theoryofcatsndogs Usually they'll do your emergent care and stabilise you in-theater, and then send you to Stuttgart or somewhere else out-of-theater for longer-term care and recovery.
"If it's not your heart and your major vessels, we can save you" is the most stone cold thing anyone has ever said. This guy is a beast.
is the brain a major vessel?
@@jeepersmcgee3466 bruh if you got shot in the brain do you think would die?
@@jeepersmcgee3466 you'd already be dead so you wouldn't be on any operating table?
@@jeepersmcgee3466 even major brain trauma can sometimes be saved, but rehabilitation is required still, it really depends.
@@jeepersmcgee3466 Im guessing major vessels refers to heart and large arteries and veins like aorta and pulmonary tubes
The best part of his interview is that he is conversant with historical aspects of treating battle wounds. Types of wounds and how they were treated in Vietnam, WWII, and Iran has made this one of my favourite expert interviews.
Agree 100%
Iran?
@@Leadfoot_P71 I assume they meant Iraq but had a slip.
@@Leadfoot_P71 he's just predicting the future.
@@BalkanRedneck Or maybe he recalled the failed US hostages rescue mission in Iran.
I was a combat medic in Iraq and Afghanistan, totally agree with everything he said. I had the honour of observing the trauma surgeons in Camp Bastion and these guys worked miracles, they saved the lives of people who simply shouldn't be alive today. I treated and medevaced a guy with quadruple limb amputations, I was shocked he was still alive when we got him on the MERT. I'm still shocked he is still alive today thanks to these guys.
Hello dear colleague, I need a bit of advice if you please. I'm trying to put together some field trauma kits for sending into Ukraine, but I'm just a radiologist so my knowledge in this is rather limited. Here's a brief list of what I've gathered, please tell me if I'm missing anything important: sterile gauze bandages, gauze wrap, band-aids, steri strips, sterile gloves, tape, scissors, tourniquet, disinfectant (PVP-I), local anesthetic (lidocaine), syringes, local anti-inflammatory (Rivanol), oral anti-inflammatory (Paracetamol), wide spectrum antibiotic (Amoxiclav). I'm buying these over the counter, so I can't get sterile suture kits, stronger anesthetics or IV antibiotics.
@@Dr_V hi, it depends on the purpose. I assume if you really mean trauma kit then it's for a combat medic type deal. In that case drop the band aids, steri strips, all the drugs other than the antibiotics and the pink and fluffy wound cleaning stuff. Trauma kits deal with mostly bleeding, so all you really need are bandages, gauze, tourniquet, gloves, mask and bag, tuff cut scissors and permanent marker. I would say for 90% of casualties I saw would just need those items. Things like wound cleaning or small wounds can be dealt with at an aid station or hospital, a trauma kit is for saving lives so it should just be stuffed full of thing designed to do just that. If you wanted to create a more general first aid kit then what you listed would be fine.
@@Dr_V Im not a licensed medical professional but I was an infantryman with actual casualty field care experience and training. Most tactical combat casualty care at least for first-line care revolves around a IFAK (individual first aid kit) primary items that you want to include in a IFAK are T triple C certified tourniquets such as a CAT tourniquet or a SOF-T tourniquets. Pressure dressings also known as Israeli dressings as well as Hemostatic agents or such as Celox or Combat Gauze as it is infused with the hemostat already. This will cover most injury’s involving hemorrhaging to the extremities and is the #1 killer on battlefields. you can also include items such as occlusive dressing or chest seals as well as decompression needles to treat tension pneumothorax but I would only recommend these items to trained individuals as it involves shoving a 14gauge catheter in to someone’s lung so yea. Other items are NPA’s (Nasopharyngeal Airway) for airway, gloves, surgical tape and compress gauze. Also, trauma sheers and sharpies are a MUST trust me. This will help sustain the casualty until they can get to high medical care. Hope this helps
Thank you.
As a civilian MD I don't have access to military medical equipment, but I'll ask around for some hemostat infused dressings.
The band-aids I mentioned aren't the little pink "finger scratch" type, but the kind made for post-operative wound dressing (large, thick and infused with a contact antiseptic), should be at least somewhat useful.
@@Dr_V Hemostat dressings can be purchased online and is available to the civilian market as well as every thing mentioned above you can even buy prefilled IFAK's. Just google Quikclot and you'll see. They are just one of the many producers. The difference be tween the civilian and military is 1. the military ones are vacumed packed for storage and size. and 2. the military ones have a strip the runs thru the entire length of the gauze so sergionz can X-ray it and see if any is still inside the patient before or after they suture them. Both can be purchased online.
Holy crap!! I served with this guy at Camp Junction City in Ramadi, Iraq back in 2005-2006. Such a cool dude! I learned a LOT from him. That picture of him in the beginning of the video is when he was in the OR we had at JC and my friend Lauren is right behind him! So cool to see him again! This guy is legit!
LoL sure
@@leo_mas_922 what makes his statement untrue?
@@moss8702 I dined with Scarlett J. . What makes mine untrue?
@@leo_mas_922 Easy, because I dined with Scarlett J. So obviously you are lying.
@@BloodTrinity Dayum
You should bring him back for more because he’s excellent at this. I could listen to him for hours. I like seeing the contrast between a civilian doctor and a military one, and the differences in how they do their work. It’s fascinating! I’m sure he’s got tons of crazy stories he could share. I’d like to see him react to more medical scenes even if they aren’t military related.
You could have him check out self administered or improvised medical care from movies and TV. Things like someone treating their own gunshot or knife wound like the Javier Bardem one in No Country For Old Men. I think there was also a similar scene in the movie Shooter with Mark Wahlberg if I’m not mistaken. Stuff like that though would be interesting as well and I’d like to hear his professional take on improvised medical care.
Truly excellent interviewee
Crossbow bolt scene from Blue Ruin
Paul Bettany’s character from Master and Commander
Agree
Mark wahlberg in Lone survivor would be awesome. Lots of wounds you probably wouldnt survive. They even joke about getting shot in the head. Would love to see it.
This guy is amazing, can we get more of him? Could literally listen for hours
I second this!!!
Yeah, I also love how he would get into the evolution of field trauma like the historical use of morphine or IV
@@crimsoncrusader4829 The real interesting stuff is pre morphine, them good old barber surgen days
I absolutely agree. He would be great for a history of military medicine thing.
I had the privilege of working with men and women like this for a long time. I was always humbled and amazed by them and wouldn’t trade it for the anything.
He died in the new war
I was an EMT for under a year and years later I still have trouble with some of the things I’ve seen. I can’t imagine 25 years in the field. Bless this man, he’s unwavering.
Was it really that bad ? I always wanted to be an emt but didn’t know if I could handle it
You have to be a sociopath or psychopath to cope with it mentally, but that is why those kinds of people can be heroes, and why there is a certain degree of tolerance for it in the armed forces.
@@JohanN4664 yes. It depends on each person and their experience in the field, as well as how it affects you. For me, I never had trouble in the moment, I just locked in and went into robot mode no matter how fucked it got. But when the adrenaline wears off and time goes by, it can seep in. I have trouble sleeping because of the night terrors I have. Know what you’re signing up for.
@@hollywoodbb Hey, what bothers you the most? What surprised you/missed your expactations when starting career, and did you look into it before, prepare yourself?
I'm trying to grasp what is the load in this job.
You were in the wrong field- it’s not for everyone. 10 years in a trauma center in North Philly was enough for me but the schedule was the worse.
I had the privilege of working with Dr. Rhee in Tucson when I worked in the field as a medic as well as in the Emergency/Trauma department. He is the consummate professional, very knowledgeable yet down to earth and absolutely unflappable.
You know, you’re about 3rd guy in the comments to bring up working with him in Tucson, you might know some of these people.
@@DJgoon12 ER Paramedic
Tucson? Arizona? Neat! I'm from there
The fact that this guy doesn't have the thousand yard stare and still smiles is amazing to me I bet you he's seen some stuff.
he told us about some of it. seeing a six year old girl with a big piece of shrapnel sticking out of her neck for example. and a lot of civilians with burns.
That is the worrisome part. Think Robin Williams and his depression. I had my wife’s family be surprised when they realize I am a combat grunt. “But you don’t seem like a Marine.” Probably because I am always being silly and entertaining kids. Then there are nights when I remember the acts of violence I committed, or my dead or injured friends, and I get bummed out.
@@Rudyelf1 It means you're still a human and you still have a conscience.
I've heard from some of my veteran friends that the medics usually are the ones who come out most mentally ok from horrible experiences. I'm guessing it's because they're the ones actively doing something that is natural to our human wiring when helping advance the combat mission. Trying to keep people in your group alive and well is instinctive and can override fear. Seeing people get wounded around you and not being able to help except to hopefully keep the enemy off of them probably isn't quite as aligned with what our brains can handle.
@@GraceWhip Actually human brains can handle death pretty well, its just that modern life ensures we don't have to deal with it enough that we actually get used to it. It affects us greatly because of that. Most of us can't even stomach seeing the livestock we eat die in front of us because we don't do it ourselves anymore.
I was a surgery resident of Dr Rhee at University of Arizona. This man speaks surgical knowledge worth chapters in few words. Still recall cases I managed in the trauma bay with Dr Rhee and what he taught me. One particularly, a patient transferred from Mexico result of cartel shooting. Everyone was worried about the situation, Dr Rhee came in calmly and made everyone focus on the real problem, patient's life.
Both parts of your comments are interesting. But the fact that they transfer trauma patients from Mexico to the US for treatment is something I was not aware of
More opportunity to train and learn. It benefits the trauma surgeons, staff, etc and one day maybe you and me. @lgarcia67
@@lgarcia67More opportunity to train and learn. It benefits the trauma surgeons, staff, etc and one day maybe you and me.
@@lgarcia67 Read between the lines - how do you suppose the patient ended up in the US? There are two major possibilities that would have a treating hospital staff worried. Either way, in America, money talks. Why would you expect any different?
Talk about a man who's tough as nails. This is the guy that's a hero in my book. Understated and courageous without bragging about it. Incredible person.
💯
My man rocking a $50,000 Royal Oak, not 100% understated. :-D
@@paintballplayer700 his watch?
"If it's not your in your heart or major vessels, I bet I can save ya..."
I believe him. I really do.
I think what struck me is when he was talking about how much “fun” he had… with a subtle sound of joy in his voice. I found it strange that someone would find happiness in such a situation- working on the wounded, sometimes horribly so, and the dying.
As I considered it more, though… if I was a patient, that’s exactly who I’d want helping me. Someone with a passion and excitement for his craft. He loves helping people so much he doesn’t even see the horror before him, only the opportunity to do good.
honestly, I was put off by it too, but then I remembered that saving lives probably should be fun
now if a combat veteran said killing people was fun, I wouldn't think they were normal
Possibly he was referring to the Camaraderie in Combat theaters that has no equivalent, rather than the carnage.
I suspect he was remembering the thrill of working closely with other people who had the same goal. Unfortunately, that doesn’t happen nearly often enough in civilian life.
Regarding the bare hands. I went through CLS training when I was in the Army. Basically slightly advanced first aid. I'll always remember one of our instructors told us if we have gloves in our kit, use them, if not, don't worry about it: 'I can fix an infection later, just get them to me. I can't fix dead.'
What a way to remember that.
Same concept with packing wounds with dirt or using dirty rags to stop bleeding
CLS huh? How bad did you wanna stick someone to give them an IV for being a heat casualty?
@@CombatIneffective never had to outside of class, and that was honestly my least favorite part of class. My unit told me I had to go so they could hit their numbers, or I wouldn't have taken the training. I just wasn't a fan of needles. But I got both required sticks on the first try. By the time my re-cert came around CLS's were no longer able to do IVs.
Haaaa, I remember my CLS training too. Pressure bandages and tourrnequets...outside of that, getem to a medic
In that episode of Band of Brothers the two Medics actually spent the first 15 minutes(2 real world days) going from aid station to aid station asking for plasma, morphine, bandages, and scissors.
Thats one of my fav parts of the book
"Hinkel, ist das du? Hinkel?!"
@@pasta-and-heroin 1
Thats me in foxhole
Yes at Bastogne.
14:52 His little smile, as if he's thinking "Oh yeah, I've done this." like its a fond memory. This man clearly has balls of steel.
The thing about putting on a tourniquet being painful reminded me of when I took a trauma medicine class at my local gun club. The instructor showed us a video of a soldier whose leg had been blown off and his comrades applied a tourniquet. The wounded soldier kept trying to pull it off because it was more painful than the injury and had people screaming at him to leave it alone.
It saved his life, but imagine how much it must have hurt!
Was on a call for an accidental discharge to the lower leg. Guy had lost a lot of blood before we got there and was still bleeding heavily. Tibia blown out in at least one spot. Lots of reasons for him to be in lots of pain. He was p calm and moderately distressed.
Tourniquet went on and within a few minutes he was howling.
In the Marine Combat Lifesaver Course tourniquets were huge. If you have a leg wound, I’m standing on your leg to brace you and tighten as hard as I can. Mark em and keep it movin. Plus, a man can still fight with a tourniquet on.
In the military, that's called being "in the black". Because of his injuries he was probably not fully aware of his surroundings and probably wasn't hearing what everyone was saying and didn't know what he was doing.
@@jeffm5991 nailed it!!
I suspect that a lot of the pain from tourniquets comes from the combined effect of the wound and the tourniquet. I took a trauma medical class and part of the class was for us to actually put a tourniquet on ourselves (one arm, then one leg) and on someone else (one arm, one leg) and the teacher would come around each time and verify that there was no distal pulse. It hurt a fair amount but not the most painful thing I've experienced by a long shot and the other people seemed to have the same experience. Now, granted, we never left them on for more than about 2 minutes so maybe it gets much more painful with time.
Dr. Rhee is an amazing doc that I have had the luck to have learned from so I can provide quality trauma care to my community as an EMT. He knows his stuff and has plenty of stories to share and overall a very down to earth guy! Glad to see he hasn't changed since he left from Tucson, AZ
Very cool! Great job helping your community, hope for plenty of success, luck and safety for you and your partner.
I'm always in such awe of the composure under pressure of such professionals like Dr. Rhee and yourself.
I suppose it's as easy as "Someone's got to do it. And it doesn't serve the patient being frantic"
Oh right! I knew I knew him from somewhere. I've seen him lecture at the Trauma ACS Conference in Vegas. Great guy.
You're an EMT and you think you can give him a stamp of approval?
@@DJgoon12 you better watch your mouth when you're talking to Bravo-One
Dr. Peter Rhee is one of the best guest speakers I've seen on this channel. He's got the knowledge, the stories, and the charisma. He's awesome
You don't really hear much about medical units, but these men and woman are absolutely deserving of more praise and recognition.
Agreed. What they do is deserving of praise and recognition, but why they do it for isnt. War still exists because we dont actually take account how terrible it is because we look into the bigger picture.
As a medic in Iraq, I will 100% agree with the Col. We stopped using IVs all together on my last tour in 2008. We were hit by a RKG3 in Tikrit. One soldier had a piece of shrapnel in his back (another had wounds to his upper arm). I treated him until we got back to our COB and handed him over to the docs there. ABCs (airway, breathing, circulation) will save lives every time.
We are even taught ABC in the arborist trade.. I truly think its something that should be taught in High School
ABCs are out dated, last I heard they’re running P-MARCH-P.
@@patrickmcglonejr8163 That was the first thing that popped into my head when I I took my first CPR course twenty years ago. Virtually anyone can do it.
@@JustinsAdventure you’re not wrong, but it’s essentially the same thing. ABC will still work
Oh man MARCH completely forgot about that, yeah that got bought into my 2nd tour to Afghan in 2010. That and learning cannulas and bone drilling. Amazing stuff, that I later learnt we shouldn’t have been taught.
If anyone was curious, this doctor is 100% legit, in the military's TCCC training there is a video of him helping perform a cricothyroidotomy on a patient in the middle east.
Had to Google that
Thought it was Jurassic
i'm struggling to even pronounce that
I hate the internet. Why are we ONLY questioning the legitimacy of this expert, but not literally every other? Isn't stolen valor literally a crime? Y'all are trash bags, examine why this man isn't credible but every other expert from accents to chef is so legit. Those other things aren't illegal to lie about and you can literally see photo evidence of him, in combat hospitals.
@@samaraisntMaybe he probably saw that video and recognized him,no need to be so down.
When he points out that medics would be shot while tended to the wounded to add to the casualties is scary but incredibly accurate. My father went on a peacekeeping mission and they were actually told not to respond in a sniper situation and to take cover first because going out to be a first responder was a death sentence if you're running out in the open
The first priority is to remove the threat. Then you can worry about aid.
There's virtually no military benefit to shooting medics, it takes a special kind of monster to shoot medics.
Isnt there some sort of law that u cant shoot medics when they're helping someone?
@@bramgierkink7485 technically but its not like people still won't :/
@@shiwashere Maybe if we ask them nicely :)
I did a first aid course for major trauma once, the guy was called Simmy and he was a former army trauma surgeon turned civilian paramedic and first aid instructor...He told us that a tourniquet when fully applied is known to hurt more than an emergency amputation! He also shared a short but profound story about his time in Afghanistan and it went like this...One day after a very nasty contact or IED ambush, he and his colleagues dealt with all the human casualties at hand. Once they deemed the scene secure they then noticed a local stray dog that seemed injured so he and his 2 colleagues went to try to give it aid. The next thing he remembers is waking up in a hospital in the UK 6 months later...turns out the enemy had stitched an IED into a stray dog as a secondary ambush and both the medics to his left and right were sadly killed instantly. Simmy was nearing the end of his service career and his wife said she would leave him if he went back lol(fair one) so he got his discharge but has continued saving lives directly and indirectly ever since...What a lad!
I had a friend that served in Afghanistan, he said they gotta shoot any living creature coming to their camp. They always make sure they are dead and taken care off for the same reason of enemies planting bombs in them. He said his role is the baiter, he carries flash rounds with him.
That is sick, sick, sick. In order to do this to an animal, you have to be even worse than an animal.
Yeah fuc the dogs man ,in that instance.
@@ADAPTATION7
Well, to do something cruel like planting ied to other human already made them worse than animal. 😅
@@I___Am the movie Hurt Locker did show the enemy trying to put IEDs in humans.
I'm glad they included M*A*S*H in here. I have a little bit of medical experience in the civilian world but I can't imagine what it's like in combat.
The line from M*A*S*H that always sticks with me is:
"Rule number 1 in war, is that young men die. Rule number 2 is, doctors can't change rule number 1."
One of the very few serious and educational moments from Henry Blake.
One of the best series ever made.
That wound in Black Hawk Down is what led to them developing Quick Clot, which saved a lot of lives in the wars in Afghanistan/Iraq. Also bizarre fact - The Delta Force Operator called "Hoot" in the movie became a pharmacist after he left the military because the incident led him to becoming interested in medical care.
yeah sounds like my mothers ex husbands dad who was in WW2 (somehow he's still alive) and he was a medic in WW2, got captured by the Nazis for a time but when he survived the war he opened his own pharmacy company in Wisconsin here. Made a killing of a living that's for sure.
How is a pharmacy medical care? It’s retail.
And what is quick clot? Bc I know sulfa powder was in use way before the 90s. I know they had it by WWII at the latest and it’s function was to cause blood to quickly clot to prevent fatal blood loss.
Is quick clot just like a more modern version of that or something? I’m just curious since I haven’t heard of it.
On a side note, one of my best friends growing up had a parent who was a doctor and came up with a product was some kind of patch that could be put on extreme wounds and it would allow it to start healing out in the field. I know they had signed a contract with the military to sell it to them but there was a bunch of legal shananigans that I’d rather not go into. But I though that was really cool. Although I don’t think my buddies family member’s company ended up going to market with it. But I’m sure a product with the same technology is used by the military these days.
@@matts5247 "QuikClot is a brand of hemostatic dressing, wound dressing that contains an agent that promotes blood clotting." Omg another description lol "Control bleeding with QuikClot® hemostatic gauze, which acts on contact to stop bleeding five times faster. The gauze is impregnated with kaolin, a mineral that accelerates your body's natural clotting process."
I have never used it but I've heard of it as a former EMT, it's a pretty cool invention so it knocks out two birds with one stone. Essentially instead of spilling sulfa powder everywhere you just use a nice sterile bandage wound dressing that also helps to clot up the blood at the same time.
Quite ingenious, though I don't know how much I want to impregnate someone while trying to save their life LOL
I wouldn't call pharmacy retail. I mean, it has elements of retail (especially if you work in the community setting), but pharmacists also work in hospitals and are thoroughly involved in patient care.
@@matts5247 becoming a pharmacist is not necessarily the same thing as opening a pharmacy. Pharmacists are medical professionals who specialize in the effects of medicine on the human body.
Man listening to him explain and talk about things he's done and stories he actually has info on is enough to make your heart feel heavy for the troops. Thank you to all those who serve
Go join. Your words are empty
@@alicelong3613 lolol, I agree with the other guy’s comment. You’re an embarrassment
@@alicelong3613 Did you serve?
@@alicelong3613 Go play in traffic
I served in Nam as a Navy Corpsman w/the Marines in 1966 & saw a lot of trauma. This doctor is spot on w/his observations
Tourniquet time written on the face is fascinating. Makes perfect sense but had no idea they did that. Hope for more military surgeon videos.
I would always keep a sharpie or something to be able to write somewhere on the patient lol. Once blood starts pouring it makes it way more difficult to be to write tourniquet time and if they got morphine, we were actually still being issued morphine in 2012 in Afghanistan.
Yeah, it's one of those very good ideas that you don't think about because we are taught to think about tools as only applicable to a specific inanimate medium, which human faces aren't, but they can used that way.
Yeah, it's one of those very good ideas that you don't think about because we are taught to think about tools as only applicable to a specific inanimate medium, and humans aren't inanimate.
They taught us in boot camp to write it in blood,if we didn't have anything else. The dr. says after 2 hours,the limb is dead. What he didn't say,or maybe he kinda did,is if it's not dead and you haphazardly loosen the tourniquet,the victim will bleed out much faster. Always write "T" and time on the victim's forehead.
Yes, but why did she put what looked like a 'M' on him ? What does that mean?
I remember I had someone with their intestines spilling out. He was screaming and trying to hold them, but that caused him to bleed even more and might have caused a puncture. I covered him up with a AB pad and .9, and remember yelling at him to stop screaming and not grab them. I feel so terrible that I yelled at that man for reacting completely normal. The man wanted comfort and his family, and I yelled at him. I hope he's ok, and I hope someday he and God can forgive me.
Yeah it really sucks yelling at people when they're in pain and just doing the only thing their brain can comprehend. Bringing them back is hard
Sounds like you had good intentions. May God bless you.
in a high-panic, high-stress situation like that, i can imagine it’s impossible not to yell when you’re trying to save their life. you shouldnt feel guilty, what you were doing was out of necessity and for the good of the patient, dont feel guilty God understands :)
Don't worry if he forgives you, you saved his life. what really matters is if you would be able to accept his forgiveness, and forgive yourself.
Sounds like you did your best in a very bad situation.
This guy is a real hero. I’m willing to bet the number of lives he has saved will fill up a stadium or two.
Awesome.
No one's born a hero or choose to become one. They are MADE a hero by others. :)
Fun fact: On making of Hacksaw Ridge, the actions that Desmond Doss did felt superhuman to the director and they actually stopped his story short to make it more believable
Glad they did the film did such a great job, it’s so staggering to think of what Desmond did
Right??
Gibson said that if they would included everything he did, the audience would not have accepted it and thought it was unrealistic.
Yeah go look up the citations for his actions at hacksaw - it really is unbelievable.
Honestly got to say I'm not a huge fan of that movie. Really respect what Doss did, he's a hero. But the movie just felt hokey to me. Idk
As a former Hospital Corpsman, I really loved seeing this! I was blessed to be stationed with the Marines and I was required to do this training. I learned SO many life saving and life changing skills.
Rah
Oorah Doc!
Ditto
Thankyou for your service
I absolutely admire a surgeon who has so much experience repairing traumatic wounds and saving lives. It just leaves me speechless and humbles me...makes me realize I should of learned more in life by now...
Not everyone can do everything all the time. You'll find your way, just try to enjoy the path there and keep working as hard as you need to while you do.
Never too late to learn more 💪🤓
With the MASH one, I'm not surprised at the accuracy. I have heard over the years that the MASH writers and consulting doctor actually went through military medical records and veterans' stories on the types of injuries received/seen during the Korean War and incorporated them into the scripts.
That makes a ton of sense because it always had some sense of weight to the scenarios. I always grew up watching M.A.S.H. on my worst sick days as a kid (a lot), always made me feel better.
SO HAPPY TO SEE M*A*S*H GETTING SOME LOVE. Love this series, Peter was really cool. More, please!
Agreeded. I watch years of mash reruns as a kid but had no idea it was this accurate.
@@The_Dark_Frog it’s accurate to the point that the medical techniques used were also dated to that period, however they are more accurate on representing military bureaucracy than the medical aspect.
I'm really pleased they did MASH. MASH is kinda all the time in our TV ;). Since the year 1994 (not US) and has really ingenious dubbing and without the artificial laugh
MASH is just the best.
I remember a documentary saying they often asked vet med staff for ideas or they'd recommend things. Incredible series!
From what I understand, _Hacksaw Ridge_ is an accurate recreation of Desmond Doss’s service during WWII. He was a Seventh Day Adventist and refused to carry a weapon due to his religious beliefs, thus becoming a medic. He saved anywhere from 50-100 men in the Battle of Okinawa and received a Medal of Honor for that service.
Still blows my mind that this guy was real and managed to survive that ordeal without a gun
@@kentinson1670 I think it's pretty remarkable that he did too, but just a thought. Would his odds actually be any better with a gun? A carbine won't stop you from getting shot. The only time it might is if you're unfortunate enough to be right next to an enemy combatant which is rarer than it sounds.
@@airmagebobby7269 Well in a battlefield like the ridge, yeah it would. There were multiple times Desmond would have died had it not been for his comrades who saved his life by shooting the enemy. Sometimes while he was trying to save their lives.
Wasn't he one of the first (if not the first) conscientious objectors to recieve Medal of Honour? I saw Hacksaw Ridge a good while ago and can't remember that bit well
@@jakelee7083 yeah so he really shouldn't be applauded then. His superstitious beliefs put everyone around him in more danger and he still needed those guns he hated to do his "heroism"
I am a surgeon and I can tell you Dr Rhee is the real deal. He is also a tough grader which is also a surgical trait.
I'm glad to know that surgeons have very high standards lol that's reassuring!👍
@@cleverusername9369 😂😂😂
Surgeons are jerks
i would imagine you would have to be basically perfect to pass as a surgeon. Its not like you get partial credit for medical care.
@@TheNaturalGamer1
Sure, whatever you say troll, you do realise this tactic for attention is way past its sell by date don't you?
Better hurry I think your village is missing you 🤡
To all those who have served as a combat physician, physician's assistant, nurse, medic and trauma center staff, please accept my heartfelt thanks and bless you for work you do (did). If Dr Rhee is an example of who staffs our trauma centers, we are in the very best hands!
No thanks for the millions of other service members? Just the medical staff?
Amen to that
This doc is one of the coolest people I've ever seen. People like him are who should be our kids role models, not a bunch of criminal athletes.
As a prior service Marine, thanks Doc for all of the hard work and for being there when we needed you the most.
Thank you Dr Rhee for being there for soldiers. Knowing that such competent people cared for our people is a real comfort.
Dr Rhee words cannot express how much I admire you - thank you for telling the truth about the difficulty and pressure battlefield medics and surgeons work under - I was treated as a child by surgeons who did service in WWII and they were effective and inspired confidence in a way that your average doctors simply can't do nowadays - thank you for your great work.
I remember Dr. Rhee being the doctor fielding questions in a press conference after Congresswoman Giffords was shot, and thinking that this man was going to give her the best shot to survive possible. Heroic.
The surgeon who saved my mom's life was also a previous US Army surgeon who had significant experience on the battlefield. I couldn't be more relieved to get a surgeon who performed trauma surgeries on the battlefield.... I knew that this guy knew and understood pressure and performing on my mom would be a walk in the park for a experienced guy like that...
Thanks Dr. Kim....
He was also Korean American like Dr. Rhee... I know the famous Korean American Navy Seal, Harvard Medical Doctor, and now Astronaut Johnny Kim was also a medic in the Seals....
Is that coincidence or a lot of military medics and battlefield surgeons Korean Americans..?
Korean parents are notoriously strict, very very strict when it comes to the grades of their children. Actually it is most Asian parents like that. That’s what makes certain groups of people successful and others not successful. Two parents in a home that stress education will have a child that lives above the poverty line 95% of the time.
That’s the answer to poverty in this country
1 don’t have a child before 18
2 have a two parent home
3 have both parents be involved in the child’s education
If those three things happen, poverty will be ended in any society within one generation. That’s it, that’s all it takes.
I think it’s why South Korea went from being the second poorest country in the world to a country with a bigger economy than Russia in a generation despite its much smaller population and lack of natural resources….
@@jamesw1313 You are spot on. I lived in Korea and tutored a lot of Korean kids there and in the States. The parents work hard and the kids are expected to as well. I even had parents as students, they wanted their English to be better to help their kids. My dentist now is Korean and he's overcome a lot of poor past work and is the absolute best.
South Korea only exists because the US came and helped fight the communists. There is/should be a strong sense of gratitude and duty toward the American military for every SK and KAm citizen that fully grasps what happened in Korea in the 50s... It's why I would like to join if I can.
@@jamesw1313 yeeea Johnny Kim’s story goes against the grain of your stereotype
My grandfather was a medic in WWII and he told me a lot of the same things when we watched Saving Private Ryan together. I never understood what he had seen until then. Respect these people, they have faced things we can’t imagine.
It's heart melting to see Dr Rhee getting emotional. This is how most of health care workers feels at times. Thank you for your service.
Dr. Rhee is a Ramadi legend. Smartest man on the whole base by far.
I enjoyed this discussion more than any other you have ever done. I admire his no-nonsense reporting and comparing. Good job.
We are so lucky to have people like this surgeon who work tirelessly to reduce fatalities. And their work will benefit all fields of surgery and medical care.
I 100 percent agree! I couldn’t imagine seeing the things he’s seen and had to experience
Wow. The knowledge he has of war medicine and history, coupled with his extremely effective articulation, makes this probably the most entertaining expert I've seen on this channel.
Fellow vet here, and I have the utmost respect for the medics and trauma surgeons... Their job is intense and brutal
I'm so thankful for Americans like this man! Confronting blood and guts! Thanks for your Service, Sir!
When I was in high school I had a nursing class and we were learning basic first aid, they actually made each of us have a properly applied tourniquet to feel just how much pressure you should be putting, because sometimes if you know what is feels like to be done properly you know how to do the same to others. We did have to sign a form saying the school had no liability if the tourniquets hurt us, but the students werent allowed to do them on each other.
Personally would love to see Dr. Rhee's comments on more scenes from MASH. I've heard the show's accuracy remarked on a few times before, which to me seems really notable considering how old the show is and the fact that it's (ostensibly) a comedy. I think his perspective on some of the really memorable scenes and how field medicine has changed between then and now would be super interesting to watch.
If I’m not mistaken they used real veteran stories and reports to make quite a few of those scenes. It does explain why it has an inexplicable weight to it a lot of movie scenes don’t seem to have.
@@Aeternus75 There's also one of the most effective little rules they had. Because it was a comedy, CBS required them to use a laugh track (because apparently TV executives thought people wouldn't know to laugh at the jokes without prompting). However, the producers put an ironclad rule into place that they even fought CBS's executives over (and *won*): There was to be *no* laugh track in the ER scenes. Even when someone cracked a joke in the ER, there wouldn't be any laughter except possibly from the other people present in the scene. The lack of laughtrack (and score!) in the ER gave it an emotional weight because you could subconsciously *feel* that they were missing.
@@rdfox76 I hate laugh tracks. (Big bang theory will always stick out as particularly guilty lol)
@@rdfox76 great thing about the DVD release of the show is there's an alternate audio track for all of the episodes with no laugh track
it adds SO MUCH WEIGHT to what's happening and what's being said
it's the only way to watch it for me now
I grew up with the laugh track
glad to have it this way now
M*A*S*H had Walter Dishell M.D. as an advisor. He used period articles and texts as a basis or limitation for what was feasible during the Korean War.
Great video with a hero. In the old days in Viet Nam , I was a infantry officer - I had more than one chopper come down to pick up casualties when we were under fire. I was reluctant to call a medivac but they always came no matter what. Those chopper pilots were the bravest of the brave - they immediately became the target. Those are the decisions that haunt you forever - as they didn't always get back.
In Britain, this is the duty our prince volunteered for in service (sea king, so among other duties). It was the epstein one though.
They always came because their job wasn't to survive or save lives but to preserve your hope, that someone will always be there for you and your comrades. Complete confidence they can fly so well they can dodge bullets helped.
You really shouldn't get bogged down thinking about numbers, or misfortune, when you made sure you had the back of your men. They trusted you to take risks for them, and risks don't always pay off. It isn't possible to account for the lives you theoretically saved and you'll always feel responsible for those lost under your care.
You don't need to regret choosing between two bad options. The most important thing to do is to make one. Its for the pencil pushers to do the statistics and set doctrine.
Imagine the lives this man saved, a lot of generations will continue because of this hero
This was one of the most enjoyable videos yet, his vast amount of knowledge and experience is incredible to listen to, makes me want to learn more and gives me alot of respect for his professionalism and skill on how to explain things for the casual viewer.
I appreciate him speaking about the bilateral amputation. My uncle stepped on a landmine and became a double amputee so hearing this and not needing to ask my uncle and bring up memories is interesting to me.
My father was a field medic that served 3 tours in Vietnam. He's seen things that humanity wasn't supposed to witness.
He finally was laid to rest in 2016. 😓
May your father rest In peace. He must’ve saved a lot of lives.
Ya, he did, I joined the Tonkin Gulf Boat Club in sixty-nine, so I did not see any land action.
My uncle was a Medic in Vietnam and he was hit in the forehead luckly he's still with us.
@@papillonvu Amen to that ,I was treated by a medic in Iraq and he happened to be from the same town as me . they are angels as far as I'm concerned.
I hope he's in peace. ✝️🙏🏻
This is the best 'Expert Rates' vid out there. Great surgeon, great analysis, and great instructor. Thank you for your service
My dad was a medic/x-ray tech in Vietnam. Told me about the time he helped operate on an ARVN soldier who had a live mortar round in his chest. Surrounded the helipad with sandbags and extracted right there.
Damn, nerves of steel right there. Did the wounded guy survive that? I'd think a mortar round would leave a pretty significant hole.
@@erinjackson6243 lol! Dad said he was shakin like a leaf. His buddies told him it looked like was trying to run away standing still. The guy did survive btw.
I worked Er/Triage in Vietnam as a Corpsman when a marine came in with a M79 round down his throat. One doctor was able to removei t I saw the X-ray
Of the soilder with the morter round along his side as you mentioned
This guy is a genius. This was one of the best of these videos I've ever seen. Def bring him back to do another round of war flicks or shows. So knowledgeable. Bravo
Listening to him talk about what blood is made of reminded me that I haven't donated blood in a while, so I made an appointment for three days from now. Thank you for the reminder 🙏🏻
I loved how he explained the medics side as well. As someone who worked that job he really did great with showing the importance of the first aid care people and then guys like him, the surgeons.
Firstly and foremost please thank this hero for his service. So many veterans owe their lives around the world to men like this awesome guy.
There should be a medal for what they do daily.
Awesome video and I agree with every depiction he viewed. Will wait till his next one with anticipation as this was, again awesome to watch.
Love the mix of "war story/expert report" style and his laid-back way of talking.
Thank him and every other serviceman/woman posting here for their service.
I was a Corpsman with 1/5 and 2/4 (Marine infantry) would have loved to work for this brilliant man.
Btw I loved "The Outpost." Just the way grunts talk to each other, the culture, they hit the nail on the head. Great movie.
M.A.S.H. for being a comedy, took things for real and seriously when it mattered. Great show.
last 3 seasons just sucked
a bit heavy on the alcoholism
Remember another scene when Potter was the surgeon about a guy having a piece of bone blown into his body from another casualty.
@@bradhaines3142 Nah
He was phenomenal, I could listen to him talk for hours. Would love more videos with him
I really appreciated Dr. Rhee and his insight. I would love to see him again!
In 17 minutes, this guy told me so much information that in a lifetime of watching movies didn't. AMAZING to listen to
I was always taught tourniquet and get back into the fight. Appreciate the guys like this. I sent plenty that way and when I see them now I have no words. Guys like this helped my friends live. Plus I love you doc! That corspman could've done anything like this guy in my mind!
Huh??
Please bring Dr. Rhee back for more-that was fascinating!
This man has a 1,000 great stories. I’d love to hear 1,000 more.
Wow I have so much respect for a medical professional who keeps with the times and is more than willing to change with the evidence. There's far far too much dogma in medicine unfortunately, so many ignorant doctors who choose "well that's how we did it in my day" over what the actual data is saying. Huge amounts of respect to Dr. Peter Rhee for understanding that medicine is changing all the time, and that in the grand scheme of things we still know very little. It's people like you who actually push it forward, rather than arrogant GP's who think change is doom.
This dude is an absolute legend 👍
Our boys and girls would be in a far more precarious position if it wasn't for these professionals doing everything possible to keep them alive.
I lost a cousin in Afghanistan to the bullets of a traitor and unfortunately nothing could be done to get him to the rear in time, it does however make me far happier knowing that others have survived due to the work these fine medics and surgeons do.
Thank you all for your service 🇺🇲🇬🇧💪
How can you not like a military trauma surgeon?
I’m an ER doc and love this! Best medical scene I’ve ever seen was the first episode season three of The Fall. Whoever consulted for that show did it perfectly.
Wow. Just so relieved to know our armed forces have access to doctors like this. I am just a machinist with no military service. Not serving was biggest mistake of my life. I am so glad we have the men and women capable of doing these tough jobs so I can run a lathe in a free country. Thank you all.
As a former combat medic (still active, just changed MOS) it was cool to watch this and have pretty much the same reaction to the scenes.
Same here, great minds think alike.
Absolutely fascinating take, Dr. Rhee. I'm surprised, but delighted that M.A.S.H. scored so high.
I don't watch many videos like this, but it makes me realise guys like this doctor (and any front line military personal frankly) are just made from totally different stuff to most of us. I worked in engineering for quite a while and I've seen a few bad accidents, saw a guy crush his fingers in a machine, and a guy drill through his hand on a piller drill. I didn't really freak out or anything but it's stayed with me. But... I couldn't even imagine trying to save someone from bleeding out with an arm/leg blown off all whilst rounds and are whizzing past me and bombs are going off. Just a level of dedication and bravery that is truly astonishing. Also the line about enemy snipers picking off medics to cause maximum casualties was extremely chilling. It makes perfect sense when your goal is to destroy your enemy, but to hear it spoken so matter of factly by a man who would have witnessed it is very disturbing.
Yeah, I get you there. I come from a family of firefighters and ranchers, so I grew up hearing some pretty grisly stories, and saw a few bad things at a young age (like disemboweled rats, or like when I had to help slaughter chickens, or helped butcher a deer or something). That didn't put me off of agriculture or anything, but it REALLY put me off of firefighting. When I know I can't handle the kinds of injuries and deaths firefighters see, it blows my mind how anyone can be so calm after staring some of the worst deaths humanity has invented in the face, day after day, for years on end like that. I'm profoundly grateful there are people out there who can do jobs like that without breaking.
This was excellent! My father in law was a combat surgeon during WWII and he also thought MASH was terrific. He would get the same happy glow about him when talking about the show as this good doctor. I found that to be very sweet.
Boy the PTSD I’d have if I had this man’s job.
Former medic, I deal with this everyday after i got out. It has gotten better over the years, however, it never fully goes away.
@@michaellim4165 Man the sight of blood and certain kinds of injuries makes my blood go cold, does that happen in real life?
I'm sure there are stories he'll never tell. Seeing dead children is a universal one for most people.
my family doctor when i was young was a meatball Navy surgeon on Guadalcanal. 1943...in late 60s his Midwest general medicine/surgeon life would be interupted whenever would drive near a summer time road killed animal. that bloated smashed stench brought the poor man back to his combat days in the south Pacific islands.
I did 9 months with an FST in Afghanistan and saw about 50 battlefield casualties, mostly ANA guys. Never lost a moment of sleep, no PTSD, I loved my job and could hit drinking coffee ☕️ and snacking right after we dealt with double amputees or a GSW to the testicles. Some of it you can be desensitized to, but the reaction is very individual. By contrast I’ve got buddies with bad PTSD from dead bodies who dealt with more trauma than me, and I’ve seen experienced EMTs freak out with bad trauma.
i'm so glad that you included mash in the list. it was one of those shows that made me become a doctor. i'm not a surgeon, but can attest a lot about the climate of the show, with a lot of dark things happening you kinda get desensitized and humor is one way of dealing with the stress. there is talk going on the doctors' or nurses' office that really shouldn't be repeated outside, but it does make for an absurd/dark comedy, esp when you have to deal with some impossible or ridiculous situations. but never in front of a conscious patient or their family
Wow! This guy probably saw more blood than anyone else in the world! Wow!!
What a hero! And a role model!
Dr. Peter Rhee is so excellent in this review. Please bring him back for more content!
This guy is 100% chill! And sharing tons of knowledge. Absolute hero
I work in the ER of a trauma center and this was so cool to watch. Love war movies and this guy is great to listen to. I'd love to see more of him again
Should've showed him the whole Doc Roe episode from Band of Brothers
I want more of this guy. Amazing descriptions, to the point, well thought out. I've worked trauma (civilian) for many years as a respiratory therapist and part of the resuscitation team, I could watch him all day.
I would never have the guts to be a surgeon in a hospital let alone a trauma surgeon in the military. Thank you sir
The only criticism I have about his comments is the one related to MEDEVAC helicopters not coming in to pick up wounded during a firefight.
In 2011, in Afghanistan, my platoon was doing a mounted movement when my truck hit an IED-initiated ambush that flipped my truck and wounded 4 of the 6 people in the back. During the subsequent firefight we called in MEDEVAC and CAS, and we got two Apaches and the closest dust-off. The dust-off arrived before the CAS, and even though we were still in-contact they landed and picked up our wounded. MEDEVAC crews are ballsy folks, but my team leader and our platoon fires-controller are alive today because of them.
As a medic, rule number one is fire superiority. If we do not have it we do not move forward. Jeopardizing med support is never a good idea. Look up the marines that got into a firefight in the open. One attempted to rescue another, then another, and i believe all three died. The surgeon is not wrong
@@ZheeYoYo yeah, Fallujah - you can see the photos as it happens as well and it's not at all a pretty sight
The doc is right. Choppers would not land in any field of heavy fire; that's just risking everyone and everything. Maybe in your situation, the firefight had subsided or was much less dangerous than what the doc meant.
@@Asiansxsymbol- Yeah, no. There were tracers going across the LZ and they still picked up our wounded.
Are you a Dust-Off pilot?
@@ZheeYoYo The Battle of Barawala Kalay Valley. Try again. One of many examples of MEDEVAC attempting landings during firefights even without "fire superiority." And this example was recorded. Both you and the surgeon are wrong and there is nearly 70 years of army helicopter aviation history to prove it.
I can't imagine what this man seen out there.
Thank you for your service.
Okay, this is one of my favorites of this series. More Dr. Rhee, please!