Both Matt and Kevin are wonderful, but Kevin especially so! His macabre glee when describing the most horrific procedures just have me rolling. Also, your sound guy is hilarious!
I find Kevin Goodman informative and hilarious. But something is disturbing about him smiling ear to ear while describing the most horrifying treatments!
I think it's more that he takes great pleasure in educating and sharing his knowledge and expertise, rather than any pleasure at the idea of grievous bodily harm. It's undeniable that he's a very engaging and charismatic gentleman
Its what I call a "blind man's smile" if you've seen a blind man smile, you'll see exactly what I mean, it's a very drawn out smile with an almost sinister undertone.. I know a medically blind guy who also has the exact same smile 😅
"This video contains footage some viewers may find upsetting" is a great sign when you see it on this channel. Keep it up! I work in medical technology and my sister is a surgeon, no problems here
After seeing Kevin doing dentistry, and now surgery i'm pretty sure they found him in the deep basements of MI6 Headquarter "kindly asking" some foreign spy for some information with a big grin on his face.. Love that guy !
I portray a US Civil War surgeon. 1862. For a quick arm/leg amputation, he skipped a key part. Once you cut around the arm to the bone, you need to grab the arteries/viens and tie them off with boiled horse hair or cat gut. Then you need to cut back this membrane that covers bone… and cut tendons. That requires a very very sharp knife. Then the bone saw (like a wood saw) cuts the bone. You also need a skin flap so you cut out some muscle so you can make a flap. Pack it with cloth, and hope for the best. A good healing is copious pus that lessens over time and stops. A productive would is thus. Not much difference from 1250 vs 1862. Bacteria (bacilli) not published medical not until 1864.
I had read some years back that the record for fastest lower extremity amputation during the civil war was 13 seconds. It noted the surgeons assistant lost two fingers during the amputation .
I feel like the one thing most people don't realize is that in antiquity, if you have an injury, you're either completely fucked/dead, or you have enough money to risk a procedure that could kill you anyway. There was no such thing as a medieval peasant soldier returning home with bandaged stubs in a wheelchair. If you have a shattered arm, you're dead. If you have a broken femur, you're dead. If you got stabbed in the torso, there's no recovery period, you're dead. Vikings had a guy who would sniff your stomach wound, and if they could smell your lunch, you'd be declared effectively dead immediately. We're extraordinarily fortunate to live in the times we do, in which the malfunctioning appendix can be removed with a ludicrously low mortality rate in under an hour, and you can be up and doing whatever in 72 hours with no lasting effects. Your appendix blows a head gasket in the 1400s and you're fucked mate. Medical science is by far the most important field for the every day human.
We also didn't need nearly as much medical care back then. Teeth? Mostly fine; our modern diet fucks our teeth. Peasants almost never lost teeth or needed them pulled. Mental healthcare? Unnecessary; people back then had almost no mental illness. The human brain breaks down in our modern environment/lifestyle, apart from schizophrenia most mental illness is a modern phenomenon. Obseity related disease? Not a thing. Cardio problems? Again; people were active, not really a thing. We're WAY better off today vs back then, but a lot of the modern disease burden is preventable. I'd say something like 80%.
@@Karlswebb Mental Illness 100% existed in the past. Even documented the amount of people described as having either learning disabilies (usually as being slow etc) or just more on the crazy end (george the 3rd, nero, caligula, although some of these people it could be questioned that its popoganda against them). I think there has also been many people with depression of some sort too. Mental illness has always been around, its heard about more because its more understood. People arent as shamed about it anymore. And even then both those arent the best they could be.
Seems like a more genuine looks at medieval medical care to me. I know Medieval doctors are portrayed as butchers, but I believe most doctors were doing the best they could for their patience with the knowledge and tools available to them.
Exactly. It's easy for us from a modern standpoint to say that infection was caused because the wound wasn't clean, cleaned properly, or whatever was used to clean the wound contributed to infection. But a medieval doctor would not know why what they did 50 times didn't work this time. Or why an infection flourished when they took what they understood to be every precaution against the wound going bad. They had rudimentary tools compared to ours today so they seem to be more clumsy in their surgeries. The fact that they understood enough about anatomy to still have success at such procedures is a testament to what skills the did have. On to of that when something DID seem to work they didn't know why it worked. For instance a lot of poisons would be used because the effects would suppress what was already wrong. But they didn't know that. They just knew that when you touched this metal statue you seemed to have a brief reprieve. They never made the connection between the type of metal used causing chemicals to seep through the skin. Which is why a lot of so called cures or preventative medicine seems so ridiculous to us.
The arrow removal technique makes so much more sense than we see in the movies. Instead of violently punching my the arrow through it’s a gentle ease forward than a controlled open instead of ripping through the other side with the arrow head I always understood that fundamentally the push through caused less damage from the barbs but I was like “well it can’t be that much less when you’re punching it through like that”
Adrenaline is a hell of a drug. I grew up working with my dad's dad's construction crew off and on and my mom's dad's pulp wood business in the summers, and currently own a saw mill and tree farm. I've fallen off a roof and was nearly killed by a drunk driver in 1999. I'm well into triple digits for stitches and have broken half a dozen ribs, almost all my fingers, a few toes, an eye socket, and knee cap, and dislocated a shoulder. Every time my brain totally shut off the pain for at least a few hours. I was even able to walk for a half mile with the broken knee cap. I knew there was something seriously wrong, but again, a split second of intense pain followed by none until after getting to the hospital.
@prophetedubaroque5136 I'm on the right side of the grass, so can't complain. The only thing that consistently hurts is my right shoulder, but I foster 50-100 lbs hounds (currently three) so it never gets a break.
It's when it wears off that the real pain begins. Then you cycle between relief and agony over and over as endorphins kick in and wear off. Speaking from experience as well.
Around 15:25 or so, the presenter mentions Guy de Chauliac as the inventor of the arrowhead spoon. This french doctor was the personal physician to Pope Clement VI in Avignon during the Great Mortality; he kept Clement from contracting the Plague while in Avignon, and when the pope finally fled, he stayed behind to treat the dying in the city "...to avoid infamy."
I am someone who's had peritonitis multiple times from a PD catheter. I can honestly say it is without doubt the most painful experience I've had in my life, and it comes on quick. It feels like your belly is being pulled out. It's tough to even get to the hospital because you're bent over and tense with the pain. Luckily, i had it treated. I feel for anyone who had to go through that without antibiotics 😳 you'd probably ask to be put out of your misery.
I had the surgery that I had a hole drilled into my head I still have the hole in my skull from it and a scar that hair never grows on. I have the scar which my skin was pulled to do the surgery as well across my head. In today’s time it is a rare surgery but it is still very much still practiced if needed. I was not fully awake nor asleep when I had it done I was in a semi coma so I couldn’t move but I was able to feel to an extent and hear. It was painful 😣.
I had a tire explode in my face in 2000. In order to save me and reduce the pressure building in my head, they had to drill holes in my skull. My mom told me my head was swelled to about the size of a basketball. I still bear the scars of where they peeled the skin on my head down and can feel the holes where the holes were drilled. I don’t know I’d any filler was put in there place or not. They still used powered hand drills like you would find in a hardware store with depth limiting bits to perform the procedure.
Im veggie now but used to hunt and butcher deer years ago. Any shot or arrow that penetrated the stomach area was problematic - bullets and arrows dont keep going in a straight line once they impact something, so an ethical heart shot causing almost instant death could easily go through the heart, bounce off a rib and go into the stomach. You'd always cut away meat with wide magins from that area - as shown here, all the germs and poop and urine get released and its really not good.....for surgery or food. Butchery, like surgery - requires extremely sharp tools and a deft touch. As others have commented - amputation is no easy thing, tendons and cartilages are incredibly tough. The skill level of the early surgeons pre anesthetic is staggering.
There is some evidence that at least low ranking knights did know how to do first aid. For example, William Marshal (before he became famous) is recorded as bandaging and packing his own wound. This would suggest that knights at least had some knowledge/training subce martial at this stage was quite young and relatively inexperienced.
Matt Lewis: and also [an injured person's survival depended on] -believe it or not- how rich you were. me (an American):oh, ill believe it! Joking aside i appreciate the explanation of how class (and therefore living conditions) can affect the overall health of an individual. i feel that point is often overlooked in the discussions of healthcare i have seen. I'm so glad that there are people out there keeping this information around and sharing it with others. thank y'all for the new knowledge!
Imagine being a blacksmith and one of your best customers is a surgeon...absolute genius for both parties to figure out what is needed and then fabricate it by banging out some metal.
Let's, also, be thankful for x-rays. They can take pictures and find out just exactly where the object is before starting in after it. There was a doctor in the 19th Century, perhaps Civil War time, that could do an amputation in 30 seconds. He was so fast that, one time, he took off some of his assistant's fingers. They would use a curved knife for the first cut.
Love those antiques for the garden. I’d sell my house for those, if my wife let me. Also liked the photograph. Not antique but has that feeling of grisaille decoration or a delicate Chinese painting. Lovely.
A Barbed (like a triangle or hunting head) are hard to pull out… and they do not penetrate amour (chain maille and plate). Romans used special pliers to open up the wound (OUCH!) so the arrow can be extracted without causing more damage. One would never push an arrow through the main body but I see OK if in Leg or arm. Having two holes in you is very serious… not sure an arrow head would pull out and stay in the would… depends. Infection takes days to kick in. Armor piercing arrows have no barbs so they go through chain maille but cause limited damage unless hitting an organ or blood vessel or the head. Easy to pull out.
well pushing trough was meant specialy for a wound like a hit in the arm they also said it at the start " a wound like that..." you CANT effective push a arrow trough the main body my boy.....
A Barbed (like a triangle or hunting head) are hard to pull out… and they do not penetrate amour (chain maille and plate). Romans used special pliers to open up the wound (OUCH!) so the arrow can be extracted without causing more damage. One would never push an arrow through a body!! Infection takes days to kick in. Armor piercing arrows have no barbs so they go through chain maille but cause limited damage unless hitting an organ or blood vessel or the head. Easy to pull out.
Calling this guy a doctor is a stretch. He is more like a historian! He did not mention the anesthesia used in the battlefield surgeries until the reporter asked him about it. Surgery is easy. The pain management is hard.
I love videos like this because it helps to dismiss that age old that people in the Middle Ages and Renaissance were completely ignorant about medical practices and they had only 2 ways of treating wounds, prayer and bleeding/leeching. I feel that medicine and medical practices from this period is something that's largely ignored by many people. A lot has gone to dimissing myths about the arms and amor of the Middle Ages and Rennaissance, not enough has gone into their medical knowledge where a lot, if not most, people something as minor as a paper cut was effectively a death sentence due to infection.
People in those days seem to care more about whether it works and less about why. They didn't know about bacteria but they knew that dumping wine and honey sometimes/usually worked.
i remember when working under ground in a coal mine we were pushing a tub with a gear box in it my mate had is fingers over the edge of tub when the gearbox moved crushing one of his fingers when he took his glove off his index finger was hanging off he promptly pulled it off an threw it on the coaling belt i said they would have sewn back on he told me he had been through that before an wasn't going to suffer 6 months of pain an agony for a finger he could not use again
What happened to soldiers in that era that returned home after the war was over? Crippled or missing limbs and so on unable to do the work that most people did back then, that relied on being physically able. Did they become beggars or thieves? I don't think they had any type of social safety net for wounded vets or disabled people
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Also imagine being a modest foot soldier without a retinue of surgeons. You get ordered to enter a breach in the walls of some city but then you get injured relatively quickly. Ok, well now you can't get back because all of your mates are being ordered to push through a narrow gap in the wall, and you can't go forward because that's where the enemy is. I imagine a lot of people died simply due to bloodloss or infections setting in to wounds that potentially could have been treated. But since you had to either be carried back by your mates, or walk back yourself to find a surgeon that would treat you all the way back in the baggage train. Big oof and it makes me sad to think about :( Also lends credence to the ,generally accepted belief, that for example, most sieges weren't actually fought but were instead battles of attrition (supplies). You REALLY didn't wanna get injured in places that you couldn't with relative ease get back out of to look for a surgeon as soon as possible. Anyways, loved the presentation in the video. And the energy :) Keep it up!
It amazes me that people will be watching videos about our medicinal practices in like 100-200 years from now, and they will say something like “can you believe they actually did that?” or “they didn’t discover ??? yet”
Think you mean in 1000 years or so they are talking about medieval times so around 1000 years ago 1924 was 100 years ago now and if we know anything Futurama tells us it'll be holograms
This actually reminded me of McCoy in Star Trek when he talks about how they treat people in their current time to what would be our modern age. Things like use of needles like being a human pin cushion and being sewn up like dolls 😅
I think it would be very interesting to make a production with attention to detailed interesting information, like this one, about gynaecological instruments/tools, surgeries, treatments, etc through the centuries.
The back of that skull may not have been an exit wound. It could have been a bash to the head with a mace or something in addition to the arrow impact. Or, that could have been intentional surgery as a medical specimen after the battle. They disected people all the time to examine their organs. They would have had a really good knowledge of the anatomy.
The fact that you can just scoop your guts after having fallen out and stick them back in (if not damaged of course), seal the wound and have a chance of surviving is batshit insane. Of course it would most likely be fatal but the fact that you do have even the slightest chance to survive it's impressive, always thought of it as fatal by default. Never too old to learn something new.
And people wonder why healthcare costs so much today. A lot of these people back then would have been glad to pay $20,000 or $40,000 for an operation with anesthesia, antiseptics and actual surgical tools.
"We are doing this for your benefit."
I love this man's whole demeanor.
You don’t want peritonitis. It’s for your own good…
I bet he has a "killer" basement at home... 😐
My goal in life, is to get a job where I am as happy as Kevin is explaining things in these video's
Me too 😂 as long as I don't have to torture people.
This friendly, practically banter really is a joy. His bedside manner is on point.
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@GlobalDrifter1000 if you cannot understand him, you need to read more books and play less games, it was very well written
@@LunarBulletDev is clearly a woman nobody else would say deliciously written
@GlobalDrifter1000 nope, and I was experimenting with words :P, tis important to experiment!
@@LunarBulletDev Thanks for reminding me this video exists. So nice. Adding it into my faves.
Y’all need to give Kevin Goodman his own show. I could watch him talk about macabre historical topics all day!
I had the pleasure of meeting mr Goodman recently as he acts as a reenactor pharmacist at the Black Country living museum. He was wonderful!
@@CapricornLetsplays I am so envious! I need to plan a trip to the UK soon!
I've met him aswell, he is awesome in person so knowledgeable and engaging. An extremely interesting man.
But he doesn’t get laid so what’s the point?
This channel is what the history channel should be. Love it.
Well, the content; yes, I agree.
But those sound effects were lame and something the History Channel would do.
So it's 50/50. lol
I love that he gives him all the time in the world to explain things, most interviewers always talk over one another
Helps greatly that Kevin is so dang good at explaining things. He's a great educator.
Both Matt and Kevin are wonderful, but Kevin especially so! His macabre glee when describing the most horrific procedures just have me rolling. Also, your sound guy is hilarious!
01:16 The Wilhelm Scream added for terrific effect.
And 22:11 unnecessary squishy sounds.
I was looking for the comment button, about to comment, and when I looked down, this was already there.
I find Kevin Goodman informative and hilarious. But something is disturbing about him smiling ear to ear while describing the most horrifying treatments!
I think it's more that he takes great pleasure in educating and sharing his knowledge and expertise, rather than any pleasure at the idea of grievous bodily harm. It's undeniable that he's a very engaging and charismatic gentleman
Its what I call a "blind man's smile" if you've seen a blind man smile, you'll see exactly what I mean, it's a very drawn out smile with an almost sinister undertone..
I know a medically blind guy who also has the exact same smile 😅
The dark unmoving eyes juxtaposed against the gleeful grin. Tirrefoiin'.
He's a Northerner - what did you expect? Injuries like these are a part of their daily life.
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"This video contains footage some viewers may find upsetting" is a great sign when you see it on this channel. Keep it up!
I work in medical technology and my sister is a surgeon, no problems here
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Surgery back then could cost you an arm & a leg.....it isnt cheap today either....
In battlefields you didn't pay for surgery lol @@chrisbrown8640
@@chrisbrown8640 Not only could it cost you an arm and a leg, it was pretty expensive too! 🤪
After seeing Kevin doing dentistry, and now surgery i'm pretty sure they found him in the deep basements of MI6 Headquarter "kindly asking" some foreign spy for some information with a big grin on his face.. Love that guy !
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Well, he'd be doing it for their own good.
Dr. Goodman! So perfect. He's for our own good.
Kevin is just awesome. The absolutely perfect blend of knowledge and wit
Could listen to this man all day.Needs his own channel.
This guy is a brilliant teacher. The way he speaks is really engaging. Top class 👏🏽
I portray a US Civil War surgeon. 1862. For a quick arm/leg amputation, he skipped a key part. Once you cut around the arm to the bone, you need to grab the arteries/viens and tie them off with boiled horse hair or cat gut. Then you need to cut back this membrane that covers bone… and cut tendons. That requires a very very sharp knife. Then the bone saw (like a wood saw) cuts the bone. You also need a skin flap so you cut out some muscle so you can make a flap. Pack it with cloth, and hope for the best. A good healing is copious pus that lessens over time and stops. A productive would is thus. Not much difference from 1250 vs 1862. Bacteria (bacilli) not published medical not until 1864.
I had read some years back that the record for fastest lower extremity amputation during the civil war was 13 seconds.
It noted the surgeons assistant lost two fingers during the amputation .
As stated by the presenter, the hot cautery was used for hemostasis and to close the wound rather than ligating vessels.
I think you meant pus, not puss 😂
wasn't the vessel cauterized?
Thank god we have anesthesia now.... Because that sounds absolutely horrendous!
Love how Kevin brings his own style and drama 🎭 serious topic had me chuckling 😂 love the humour
I'm very interested in this subject, please bring this gentleman back for future videos.
This surgeon’s got that Ray Shoesmith smile
I feel like the one thing most people don't realize is that in antiquity, if you have an injury, you're either completely fucked/dead, or you have enough money to risk a procedure that could kill you anyway.
There was no such thing as a medieval peasant soldier returning home with bandaged stubs in a wheelchair. If you have a shattered arm, you're dead. If you have a broken femur, you're dead. If you got stabbed in the torso, there's no recovery period, you're dead. Vikings had a guy who would sniff your stomach wound, and if they could smell your lunch, you'd be declared effectively dead immediately.
We're extraordinarily fortunate to live in the times we do, in which the malfunctioning appendix can be removed with a ludicrously low mortality rate in under an hour, and you can be up and doing whatever in 72 hours with no lasting effects.
Your appendix blows a head gasket in the 1400s and you're fucked mate.
Medical science is by far the most important field for the every day human.
We also didn't need nearly as much medical care back then. Teeth? Mostly fine; our modern diet fucks our teeth. Peasants almost never lost teeth or needed them pulled. Mental healthcare? Unnecessary; people back then had almost no mental illness. The human brain breaks down in our modern environment/lifestyle, apart from schizophrenia most mental illness is a modern phenomenon. Obseity related disease? Not a thing. Cardio problems? Again; people were active, not really a thing. We're WAY better off today vs back then, but a lot of the modern disease burden is preventable. I'd say something like 80%.
@@Karlswebb Mental Illness 100% existed in the past. Even documented the amount of people described as having either learning disabilies (usually as being slow etc) or just more on the crazy end (george the 3rd, nero, caligula, although some of these people it could be questioned that its popoganda against them). I think there has also been many people with depression of some sort too.
Mental illness has always been around, its heard about more because its more understood. People arent as shamed about it anymore. And even then both those arent the best they could be.
@@Karlswebb that is some amazing bullshit said with the utmost confidence.
@@KarlswebbActually people back then were more susceptible to health issues relative to today
This is the type of stuff I wish was on TV but it never seems to be this is one of the many reasons I absolutely love TH-cam ❤
Seems like a more genuine looks at medieval medical care to me. I know Medieval doctors are portrayed as butchers, but I believe most doctors were doing the best they could for their patience with the knowledge and tools available to them.
Exactly. It's easy for us from a modern standpoint to say that infection was caused because the wound wasn't clean, cleaned properly, or whatever was used to clean the wound contributed to infection. But a medieval doctor would not know why what they did 50 times didn't work this time. Or why an infection flourished when they took what they understood to be every precaution against the wound going bad.
They had rudimentary tools compared to ours today so they seem to be more clumsy in their surgeries. The fact that they understood enough about anatomy to still have success at such procedures is a testament to what skills the did have.
On to of that when something DID seem to work they didn't know why it worked. For instance a lot of poisons would be used because the effects would suppress what was already wrong. But they didn't know that. They just knew that when you touched this metal statue you seemed to have a brief reprieve. They never made the connection between the type of metal used causing chemicals to seep through the skin. Which is why a lot of so called cures or preventative medicine seems so ridiculous to us.
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More proof that anyone who casually desires war has never been in war.
The arrow removal technique makes so much more sense than we see in the movies. Instead of violently punching my the arrow through it’s a gentle ease forward than a controlled open instead of ripping through the other side with the arrow head I always understood that fundamentally the push through caused less damage from the barbs but I was like “well it can’t be that much less when you’re punching it through like that”
Adrenaline is a hell of a drug. I grew up working with my dad's dad's construction crew off and on and my mom's dad's pulp wood business in the summers, and currently own a saw mill and tree farm. I've fallen off a roof and was nearly killed by a drunk driver in 1999. I'm well into triple digits for stitches and have broken half a dozen ribs, almost all my fingers, a few toes, an eye socket, and knee cap, and dislocated a shoulder. Every time my brain totally shut off the pain for at least a few hours. I was even able to walk for a half mile with the broken knee cap. I knew there was something seriously wrong, but again, a split second of intense pain followed by none until after getting to the hospital.
Damn that's a pretty impressive cv but are you ok now?
@prophetedubaroque5136 I'm on the right side of the grass, so can't complain. The only thing that consistently hurts is my right shoulder, but I foster 50-100 lbs hounds (currently three) so it never gets a break.
It's when it wears off that the real pain begins. Then you cycle between relief and agony over and over as endorphins kick in and wear off. Speaking from experience as well.
I love the man who is explaining all the procedures and tools. I really enjoyed this. This video was so educational and interesting to watch. ❤
Around 15:25 or so, the presenter mentions Guy de Chauliac as the inventor of the arrowhead spoon. This french doctor was the personal physician to Pope Clement VI in Avignon during the Great Mortality; he kept Clement from contracting the Plague while in Avignon, and when the pope finally fled, he stayed behind to treat the dying in the city "...to avoid infamy."
I am someone who's had peritonitis multiple times from a PD catheter. I can honestly say it is without doubt the most painful experience I've had in my life, and it comes on quick. It feels like your belly is being pulled out. It's tough to even get to the hospital because you're bent over and tense with the pain. Luckily, i had it treated. I feel for anyone who had to go through that without antibiotics 😳 you'd probably ask to be put out of your misery.
I'd happily sit down for a few drinks with this gent
This was so interesting! That guy explained things so well. Back then, he would have made a great teacher of surgical techniques.
but gurIs think this is boring n nerdy tho
I had the surgery that I had a hole drilled into my head I still have the hole in my skull from it and a scar that hair never grows on. I have the scar which my skin was pulled to do the surgery as well across my head. In today’s time it is a rare surgery but it is still very much still practiced if needed. I was not fully awake nor asleep when I had it done I was in a semi coma so I couldn’t move but I was able to feel to an extent and hear. It was painful 😣.
I had a tire explode in my face in 2000. In order to save me and reduce the pressure building in my head, they had to drill holes in my skull. My mom told me my head was swelled to about the size of a basketball. I still bear the scars of where they peeled the skin on my head down and can feel the holes where the holes were drilled. I don’t know I’d any filler was put in there place or not. They still used powered hand drills like you would find in a hardware store with depth limiting bits to perform the procedure.
When he said "If God wills it" in a sarcastic voice, I was done xD
This gentleman is a true legend.
Im veggie now but used to hunt and butcher deer years ago.
Any shot or arrow that penetrated the stomach area was problematic - bullets and arrows dont keep going in a straight line once they impact something, so an ethical heart shot causing almost instant death could easily go through the heart, bounce off a rib and go into the stomach. You'd always cut away meat with wide magins from that area - as shown here, all the germs and poop and urine get released and its really not good.....for surgery or food.
Butchery, like surgery - requires extremely sharp tools and a deft touch.
As others have commented - amputation is no easy thing, tendons and cartilages are incredibly tough.
The skill level of the early surgeons pre anesthetic is staggering.
LMAO, I'm loving this guy - he's clearly having the time of his life!
I see Kevin Goodman in the thumbnail and I just have to watch! Medical history fascinates me and I adore the way he presents it.
Ha, I definitely feel a bit queasy after watching that. What a brilliant video.
Your sound effects guy had some fun with this video
8:11 got me good with headphones
Also, the Wilhelm Scream got my heart at 1:16
@@arualblues_zero Nice catch.
Wilhelms were a meme for decades before the internet and I love it
The *squelching* from 20:00 ish!!
A bit too much fun imho.
they realy went to town with the mac and cheese lunch must have been good
Such in depth explanations by John Fury in this video!
Very well put together video. very informative. thank you!
i also love his cheeky smile when stuff is gruesome
There is some evidence that at least low ranking knights did know how to do first aid. For example, William Marshal (before he became famous) is recorded as bandaging and packing his own wound. This would suggest that knights at least had some knowledge/training subce martial at this stage was quite young and relatively inexperienced.
They may not have understood germs, but they clearly knew honey helped fight infection.
"Does this look clean to you? No? *spits*" lmao 🤣
Terrifying, yet brilliant, gentlemen!
Love the video ! As a medic I would love to see this themed continued into different historical periods
This is really interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.
This presenter is excellent. Making a very gory subject palatable. And fun - if that is the right word!
I like Kevin’s intensity!
So fascinating.
This is amazing, they were not as uninformed as we might thought.
Matt Lewis: and also [an injured person's survival depended on] -believe it or not- how rich you were.
me (an American):oh, ill believe it!
Joking aside i appreciate the explanation of how class (and therefore living conditions) can affect the overall health of an individual. i feel that point is often overlooked in the discussions of healthcare i have seen.
I'm so glad that there are people out there keeping this information around and sharing it with others. thank y'all for the new knowledge!
Imagine being a blacksmith and one of your best customers is a surgeon...absolute genius for both parties to figure out what is needed and then fabricate it by banging out some metal.
an exceptional documentary and some really deep knowledge is shared with the audience - thank you.
Phenomenal video I really enjoyed it
Shout out to the editor picking Chiv 1 and Dark Souls clips. Two of my most favorite games of all time
"there's no antibiotics; got peritonitis; that's a problem" i love him so much 😂
Awesome! I was horrified the whole time, and I loved it!!!
Love this video. Swift delivery of a lot of really interesting info.
Thank you for the information. Because I enjoy learning from you on History Hit.
I always think about these medieval battles! Imagine hearing the sound of thousands of screaming horses and stuff😮 must’ve been horrific
Let's, also, be thankful for x-rays. They can take pictures and find out just exactly where the object is before starting in after it.
There was a doctor in the 19th Century, perhaps Civil War time, that could do an amputation in 30 seconds. He was so fast that, one time, he took off some of his assistant's fingers. They would use a curved knife for the first cut.
And they died of infection
Only surgery with a 300% mortality rate. Patient died of blood loss, assistant died of sepsis and a spectator died of shock.
Love those antiques for the garden. I’d sell my house for those, if my wife let me.
Also liked the photograph. Not antique but has that feeling of grisaille decoration or a delicate Chinese painting. Lovely.
Really vibing with the dark, dry humor 😂. These guys must be loads of fun after work, in a bar ,😁
Do you have any good book recommendations on this topic? Thank you!
Me listening at Kevin's explanations: ✨️👄✨️
A Barbed (like a triangle or hunting head) are hard to pull out… and they do not penetrate amour (chain maille and plate). Romans used special pliers to open up the wound (OUCH!) so the arrow can be extracted without causing more damage. One would never push an arrow through the main body but I see OK if in Leg or arm. Having two holes in you is very serious… not sure an arrow head would pull out and stay in the would… depends. Infection takes days to kick in.
Armor piercing arrows have no barbs so they go through chain maille but cause limited damage unless hitting an organ or blood vessel or the head. Easy to pull out.
well pushing trough was meant specialy for a wound like a hit in the arm they also said it at the start " a wound like that..."
you CANT effective push a arrow trough the main body my boy.....
fortunately then we don't live in the 13th 14th century lol
A Barbed (like a triangle or hunting head) are hard to pull out… and they do not penetrate amour (chain maille and plate). Romans used special pliers to open up the wound (OUCH!) so the arrow can be extracted without causing more damage. One would never push an arrow through a body!! Infection takes days to kick in.
Armor piercing arrows have no barbs so they go through chain maille but cause limited damage unless hitting an organ or blood vessel or the head. Easy to pull out.
Calling this guy a doctor is a stretch. He is more like a historian! He did not mention the anesthesia used in the battlefield surgeries until the reporter asked him about it. Surgery is easy. The pain management is hard.
I love videos like this because it helps to dismiss that age old that people in the Middle Ages and Renaissance were completely ignorant about medical practices and they had only 2 ways of treating wounds, prayer and bleeding/leeching. I feel that medicine and medical practices from this period is something that's largely ignored by many people. A lot has gone to dimissing myths about the arms and amor of the Middle Ages and Rennaissance, not enough has gone into their medical knowledge where a lot, if not most, people something as minor as a paper cut was effectively a death sentence due to infection.
People in those days seem to care more about whether it works and less about why. They didn't know about bacteria but they knew that dumping wine and honey sometimes/usually worked.
Lesson learned, just try to avoid being drafted in the army during the medieval period to avoid horrific injury and horrific injury treatment...
This guy reminds of Ray from Mr Inbetween the way he smiles lol I love it
i remember when working under ground in a coal mine we were pushing a tub with a gear box in it my mate had is fingers over the edge of tub when the gearbox moved crushing one of his fingers when he took his glove off his index finger was hanging off he promptly pulled it off an threw it on the coaling belt i said they would have sewn back on he told me he had been through that before an wasn't going to suffer 6 months of pain an agony for a finger he could not use again
Your mate is a maniac 😂😂 why can’t u use a finger that’s been sowed back on ??
That's bad ass.
And yet he hadn't learnt the first time.
That’s why thought and care should always be practiced on the job where such things could occur. You are responsible for your own safety.
What happened to soldiers in that era that returned home after the war was over? Crippled or missing limbs and so on unable to do the work that most people did back then, that relied on being physically able. Did they become beggars or thieves? I don't think they had any type of social safety net for wounded vets or disabled people
I have a sense that the saying "No, thanks. I think I'll fall on my own sword instead." was very popular back then.
Kudos for the high amount of Wilhelm screams the audio people managed to sneak in 😂 Interesting video!
glad you noticed!
Lol
✅️THE GOSPEL OF THE WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD "the Salvation of the last day that Christ brought in the second and last incarnation of the His new and holy name"
(Behavior that cannot fully obey Me is betrayal. Behavior that cannot be loyal to Me is betrayal. Having many understandings and spreading them everywhere is betrayal. The inability to affirm My testimonies and interests is betrayal. These are all acts of betrayal that you have always been able to do, and they are common to you as well. None of you may think this is a problem, but I don't think so. You think that some act of treachery is only an occasional occurrence, not your characteristic behavior, and should not be discussed so seriously, in a way that damages your pride. To think like this is to be an example and example of rebellion. Man's nature is his life; it was a principle on which he depended to stay alive, and he could not change it. This is also the nature of betrayal---if you can do something to betray a relative or friend, it proves that it is part of your life and you were born with this nature. For example, if a person enjoys stealing from others, this "joy of stealing" is part of their life, although they may steal sometimes and not steal sometimes. Whether they steal or not, it cannot prove that their stealing is just a form of behavior. Rather, it proves that their thieving is a part of their life--that is, their nature. This is why I say that the source of this thought is not something that just breaks out from time to time, but is in this person's own nature.)
Almighty God said
BEHAVIOR that CANNOT FULLY OBEY Me is BETRAYAL. BEHAVIOR that CANNOT be FAITHFUL to Me is BETRAYAL. CHEATING on Me and USING LIES to DECEIVE Me is BETRAYAL. HAVING MANY UNDERSTANDINGS and SPREADING them EVERYWHERE is TREASON. The INABILITY to AFFIRM My TESTIMONIES and INTERESTS is BETRAYAL. OFFERING FALSE SMILES when the HEART is FAR from Me is BETRAYAL. These are ALL ACTS of BETRAYAL that YOU have ALWAYS been ABLE to DO, and they are COMMON to you as well. ☀️🙏
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THIS is SOMETHING that CANNOT be DENIED to ANYONE. For EXAMPLE, if a PERSON ENJOYS STEALING from OTHERS, this "pleasure to steal" is PART of THEIR LIFE, although they may steal sometimes and not steal sometimes. WHETHER they STEAL or NOT, it CANNOT PROVE that their STEALING is JUST a FORM of BEHAVIOR. Rather, it PROVES that their THIEVING is a PART of THEIR LIFE--that is, their NATURE. 🛑
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This is the REASON WHY I SAY that the SOURCE of this THOUGHT is NOT a THING that just CUT off SOMETIMES, but is in this PERSON'S own NATURE. 🙏
From The WORD, Vol. I. The Manifestation and Work of God. A Very Serious Problem: Infidelity 1
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Also imagine being a modest foot soldier without a retinue of surgeons. You get ordered to enter a breach in the walls of some city but then you get injured relatively quickly. Ok, well now you can't get back because all of your mates are being ordered to push through a narrow gap in the wall, and you can't go forward because that's where the enemy is.
I imagine a lot of people died simply due to bloodloss or infections setting in to wounds that potentially could have been treated. But since you had to either be carried back by your mates, or walk back yourself to find a surgeon that would treat you all the way back in the baggage train. Big oof and it makes me sad to think about :(
Also lends credence to the ,generally accepted belief, that for example, most sieges weren't actually fought but were instead battles of attrition (supplies). You REALLY didn't wanna get injured in places that you couldn't with relative ease get back out of to look for a surgeon as soon as possible.
Anyways, loved the presentation in the video. And the energy :) Keep it up!
The guy explaining in the waistcoat is so good at his job
It amazes me that people will be watching videos about our medicinal practices in like 100-200 years from now, and they will say something like “can you believe they actually did that?” or “they didn’t discover ??? yet”
Think you mean in 1000 years or so they are talking about medieval times so around 1000 years ago 1924 was 100 years ago now and if we know anything Futurama tells us it'll be holograms
This actually reminded me of McCoy in Star Trek when he talks about how they treat people in their current time to what would be our modern age. Things like use of needles like being a human pin cushion and being sewn up like dolls 😅
@@edmundblackadder2741 in the voyage home when he gets so offended in the hospital is my favorite 😂😂
I passed out twice watching this
14:58 the Yakuza still use this method today. Tourniquet with a rubber band and cut the pinkie off with a wood chisel.
What à time to be alive 😅😮
I think it would be very interesting to make a production with attention to detailed interesting information, like this one, about gynaecological instruments/tools, surgeries, treatments, etc through the centuries.
i wonder how many accidental knots and crimps were put into people intestines as they "placed" em back in.
The back of that skull may not have been an exit wound. It could have been a bash to the head with a mace or something in addition to the arrow impact. Or, that could have been intentional surgery as a medical specimen after the battle. They disected people all the time to examine their organs. They would have had a really good knowledge of the anatomy.
The fact that you can just scoop your guts after having fallen out and stick them back in (if not damaged of course), seal the wound and have a chance of surviving is batshit insane. Of course it would most likely be fatal but the fact that you do have even the slightest chance to survive it's impressive, always thought of it as fatal by default. Never too old to learn something new.
Excellent presenter
Poor Joe.
Was really interesting to watch.
early medicine was really just a coin toss for if you get septic or not
“Surgeons were on the cutting edge…” Well, I would certainly hope so!
well shit i thought my day was bad. This shit is horrifying but I am so happy I am alive during this time.
And people wonder why healthcare costs so much today. A lot of these people back then would have been glad to pay $20,000 or $40,000 for an operation with anesthesia, antiseptics and actual surgical tools.
I really enjoyed this ☺️❤
but gurIs think is is boring n nerdy tho
Love this
nice sound effects, especially the electrical drill
This guy is delightful, he seems to really enjoy his work. I hope I never need him. Heh.
Ohhh yes, Kevin and his demonic sweet smile are back! 😈
15:02:
"That's horrifying, though! It's horrific!"
Kevin: "Yea 😃"
Love this ❤
I can't watch this whilst trying to sleep
Great sense of humor and extremely informative..thank you
Love the sound FX. 🤪
Ancient Surgery was invented by Indian Sage Susrut. He noted all the medical rules in his book " Sushruta Samhita ". ❤