SureStart is legit! Got my pro yesterday, engaged over 30 times, and not one false start. I can't tell you how many times I got left behind or looked stupid at a stop light because of my replacement GT footpad. Now I can fully enjoy my GT. Thanks TFL!
If I was future motion, I'd be tempted to sue these guys, from the moment you mod a safety measure, modifying proprietary technology you endorse the responsability in case of accident, lets say this delay in front sensor results in board crashing on the road killing few people driving a car, who is responsible? As much as I agree to right to repair, this is something else.
@RusticRaver Sounds like something FM would say. Doesn't matter because FM has gone and implemented a similar feature in their new firmware update. Personally, I don't use FM Posi and keep it disabled since TFL Surestart has AirSense, a feature that FM does not.
We should be able to use the footpad as a password input to have the Onewheel lock and unlock after power cycling as a safety anti-theft measure. Could you add this feature?
@@destruxandexploze2552 Definitely a way for sure. Just if people really want something, they can and will do it. Yes, deterring the desire is good and effective. I think the idea to have this option is fantastic don't get me wrong. Just a pessimist at times.
I've got about 300 miles on since I installed my Sure Start GT and it's by far the best upgrade you can make IMO! Makes drops, bonks, sketchy trails so much better with the consistent and reliable engagement 👌👌
Plz look at one of my videos in my channel I have a onewheel pint,I have a problem with it when I turn it on it has red lights and unable to ride a long time plz help,what do I do?
Adding a tip.. When programming the two features via the left and right sensor, you have to program both before power cycling. Otherwise the settings get deleted and it revert back to stock when entering programming mode again Steps should be: 1. Enter Programming mode 2. Tap left sensor however many times to your timing preference 3. Press both sensors simultaneously to lock in left sensor setting 4. Press right sensor however many times to your timing preference 5. Press both sensors simultaneously to lock in right sensor setting 6. Power cycle the board and it should now have both settings saved Repeat steps if unsuccessful
The install mechanism is so clever and the ease of installing is amazing! I'm no stranger to tinkering and soldering sensitive electronics but this is just great engineering and makes it super accessible.
This is UNREAL. This thing seems like a necessity for even basic riders. I ride pint and I have put TONS of little felt furniture feet all over my sensors to stay active. It works really well actually. But I'm always seeing that blue line when dropping. That drop timer is a genius idea my friends. Love you guys
This is so sick 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 False starting or the board disengaging when shifting weight while idling can be dangerous for city riders, I'm glad that'll become a thing of the past 🥳
I can’t believe how good this is! This has changed my board so much and it’s made riding so much more fun! Without you guys one wheels won’t be the same. Thank you so much for what you do. ❤
I think I can hear some angry noises coming from Santa Cruz, which makes me happy. What an incredible product and great engineering! Especially for such a seamless integration for such closed source product like the OneWheel
I really love my standard SureStart! Going to buy a Pro model as soon as they’re out. Also FM sent my board back from repairs once with the gasket stretched and pinched so I’m rocking the badger gasket on that board now😎
Clean/simple design, straight forward directions, and easy install. Though I wish that where Jeff says "... and once thats done, your bumper goes on.", he instead says "... once thats done, your stock bumper goes in the trash and your new BANG bumper goes on."
I almost got rid of my GT because of the awful sensor engagement. I decided to give the SureStart a try...cannot speak highly enough of this product. It is a night and day difference getting on the board. Everyone with a GT needs this.
I CAN JUST GET ON! I CAN JUST GET ON THE BOARD AND THEN IT GOES! I DON'T FALL OFF WHILE IDLING ANYMORE! THIS IS THE BEST THING EVER! (I shoulda watched this first tho, picked up a gasket AFTER the install 💀)
Just snagged one! I have a pair of shoes that activates my GT pretty well but not always and any other pair it’s frustratingly bad. This might be the most important mod available for a GT.
@@Da0yster That is an excellent point, and I should have been more clear. It is important to know the exact formulation of dielectric grease in use, because there are many different kinds. Usually silicon based dielectric is fine for use on silicon rubber gaskets and o-rings. Compatibility of use information is usually found on the tube, but if not, check with the manufacturer before applying. Don't want to be like that guy from onewheel riders, sealed up his controller plugs with a liberal application of blue loctite. 😬
Pretty cool, Still on my XR, but that wheel is really nice with all the little fine tuned settings. Good job on the chip creation, electrical motor control has sooooo many options coool guys
I just ordered a surestart. I hope the update did not bugger this out. Been needing to get one for a while now. Tired of having to wear specific shoes to ride the board lol.
Wow! I just installed this bad boy on my gt and I love the outcome it works pretty good I sure will not look stupid no more on the stop light just step on it and go. The installation is pretty easy and it works like a charm. Thanks guys for this awesome product 🤘
Hi floatlife this is just a follow up review on my surestart pro so after weeks of using now i finally having issue with it every time ride off-road the sensor seems to reset to posi mode. I have open my board twice now and make sure everything is connected and it is. I have to remove and reattached the surestart to make sure it gets proper connection it will work after that then it will go back to posi mode once I hit a bump or drop?
Yes, yes I do need this...especially after getting dumped multiple times on those flat kick footpads. BUT, I also WANT those rails... couldn't stop staring! 😍
Can’t wait till mine arrive. Tired of looking like a fool when trying to take off. I did not want to remove that extra layer of plastic on the sensor since my grip tape is not even close to being worn out.
If I'm not wrong, this little device came with the acquisition of Badgerwheel, would have been nice to give some more props to Robert on this device, or not, whatevs, could be just cuz it's part of the business. Also might want to mention if this voids warranty or not by opening up the board.
17:06 Ehhh it kinda goes back to stock. Diagnostics mode reverts everything back at zero but factory disengagement delay is around 1-2 milliseconds. Try doing a drop with the disengagement all the way at 0 😂 it’s not fun, I spent a whole day messing with it
Tony says boards will ship out third or fourth week of the month, and that shipping will take around month. So people will start receiving their boards near the end of March
Nice. Accelerometer on a nano with a series parallel... it looks like a nano pcb anyways, that's not a jab.. its a credit, well done, thanks for looking out for the community 👍
Just bought a gt after recall today, as a newbie rider I fell hard due to nosedive at lower speed. Would a flat footpad+surestart fix the sudden disengagement while moving forward? Thank you for saving my life!
Amazing!!! 🎉I have a lot of engagement issues with my GT front pad, I will take it to solve that! And do you have a way to fix a broken connector? I broke the one from the board when I installed the flat front pads…. 😢
My Pint X left sensor is stuck again. I know because if you connect the sensor after turning on the PintX the left light is locked on. When I briefly tap the right sensor it goes "full tilt" if you are a GenXer, "full send" if you are a millennial. I don't know how it knows but it does... 😂 Then you have to disconnect the foot sensor cable or press the power button to get out of Ghost Mode. I think it's a factory settings... 😅 Anyways, should I replace the whole footpad sensor, with the new FM wooden one they recently released, install a Sure Start P®O, or both? I have already removed the extra sheet of plastic when it locked up on me months ago. Thanks again guys!
I don’t know how I missed the boat on this amazing product but I am buying this today. Stupid question: does the scraper and alcohol wipe come with the Surestart Pro or do I need to get my own? Thanks TFL, as always your shit is the best shit.
So I own a SureStart standard. Unless I’m missing something it looks like today’s firmware update with custom shaping added to the Onewheel app has made the standard SureStart no longer necessary since it gives the option to make the footpad single zone?
Not really. It depends on what features you're looking for. The new custom shaping has a permanent posi setting, but there is no time out to switch back to two zone so you either have to choose between a two zone with a heel lift or a posi with no heel lift. Sure start means you don't have to choose
If you watch the Onewheel video explaining it and test it out as I have your reply is not accurate. Single zone does have a timeout and heel lift/simple stop still works. Custom shaping also has a setting to change the reengagement timing like the sure start does. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not knocking your product. I have loved it, and you guys are always great. Reason I ask is that since I no longer need the sure start with the new custom shaping it would be in my best interest to remove it. Nothing specific to your product. It’s just best and safest practice to remove any unnecessary mods when it comes to electronics. Additional hardware and software just creates a larger risk of failure, which of course in the case of a Onewheel could lead to injury. If I’ve missed something please let me know
I'm sounding the alarm that this device has a nasty QA issue: I bought two of these with my own money and the 3D-printed "clip" mechanism that presses the contacts on the board DOES NOT HOLD under riding conditions. I have two boards, a GT and a PintX and the clip POPPED OUT after being securely installed (with a nice, crisp "click"). The only way to keep it clipped in was to EPOXY the mechanism into place to prevent it from popping out.
@@TheFloatLife Respectfully, I've already epoxied it, so it ain't coming off, but I have to say I'm disappointed in the response "it just functions as a normal sensor" for something that costs $100 smackeroos. That's not the right answer.
Was waiting for this and ordered it as soon as I got the notification. One question though. Is it possible to install it without removing the front Footpad? I kind of broke the connector so it's hot glued in.
I picked up a PintX with 17 miles for only $750. With accessories, their receipt says they spent $1850. 13 miles later I'm getting the orange light of death which I suspect is a sensor code. I disconnected and removed the front foot pad and it boots up fine, no orange light. With the PinX still on, I proceeded to connect the sensor, the light then indicates the left sensor is engaged without me pressing it; when I press the right, it free spins. Should I remove the extra plastic on the sensor against the wishes of Uncle Sam and Aunt Karen or just install a Sure Start? I already have 4 XRs, one of which will become a VESC; so I need another OneWheel money pit like I need an extra hole in the head. I see you have WTFs, Kush, and Enduro available for the PINT also but I don't know which is more viable financially. A kitted out PintX, a GT with GT-S $850 Hub or just get the GT-S and throw bangs and dubs on it? Obviously I need the PintX functional, but if I throw a grand at it, I'm less likely to get a GT-S and just kit out a used GT instead.
@@TheFloatLife I sent a video of it to a friend in Oregon, all of a sudden, it fixed itself while filming. Initially, it booted orange. I disconnected the sensor, then rebooted. After 10 seconds, I plugged in the sensor and all of a sudden its a solid light instead of the "left pad activated" light. Free spinning off of my workbench, when released, it now stops, when prior I had to hit the button to disengage it. That's only because I connected the sensor after booting initially. The only way to shut off the board after free spinning was with the button. Since rebooting a dozen times, it seems to be fine, but you and I both know that after I screw the pad and bumper back down, it will turn orange again, sooner or later. At least I know what it is and I can now justify dropping money on rails, tire, front/rear pads, etc. You know how it is... Then again, of course you know how it is. All drug dealers know how it is. The difference between having this conversation with my Stoke Dealer vs. my Drug Dealer; at then end of the day, I have something to show for my expenses from my Stoke Dealer, and my stoke addiction funds the Float Ranch. Circle of life... 😁 Edit: Fully assembled and working for now... Is there an aftermarket alternative for the PintX front foot pad? I have the platypus front pad on an XR. I've ridden enough to know how to dismount without the heal lift.
Yep, Future Motion can do something similar via software... but unlike TFL, FM has to worry about average consumers and the stupid things they can possibly do. I wouldn't hold my breath. :)
I’ve seen loads more OW’s by my house ever since they started running commercials on ESPN. So yea, really dumbing it down. I think TFL buying Badgerwheel was a great purchase for the growth of their company. Maybe they buy Floatwheel next???
@@thewaxlab If Floatwheel wasn’t a Chinese organization that can easily ignore patents and any intellectual property rights, they couldn’t exist at all. Not happening. :)
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SureStart is legit! Got my pro yesterday, engaged over 30 times, and not one false start. I can't tell you how many times I got left behind or looked stupid at a stop light because of my replacement GT footpad. Now I can fully enjoy my GT. Thanks TFL!
Cannot wait to get mine, on the way!
If I was future motion, I'd be tempted to sue these guys, from the moment you mod a safety measure, modifying proprietary technology you endorse the responsability in case of accident, lets say this delay in front sensor results in board crashing on the road killing few people driving a car, who is responsible? As much as I agree to right to repair, this is something else.
@RusticRaver Sounds like something FM would say. Doesn't matter because FM has gone and implemented a similar feature in their new firmware update. Personally, I don't use FM Posi and keep it disabled since TFL Surestart has AirSense, a feature that FM does not.
@@sdmods619 interesting, defo material for a lawsuit, that's all I'm saying. Actually chat gpt reckon its illegal, I just checked
We should be able to use the footpad as a password input to have the Onewheel lock and unlock after power cycling as a safety anti-theft measure. Could you add this feature?
Thing aint that heavy, they can still just pick it up, toss in car or truck or bike even, and leave
@@skylercutsforth8595 If there's a widespread knowledge that these things have passwords it might discourage theft.
@@Mowguli true.
But also if it is know about, then they probably would be able to know that this mod is removable too..
@@skylercutsforth8595 Then make it not worth their time. Have it be a solder mod where they have risk of damaging it if they lack soldering skills.
@@destruxandexploze2552 Definitely a way for sure. Just if people really want something, they can and will do it. Yes, deterring the desire is good and effective.
I think the idea to have this option is fantastic don't get me wrong. Just a pessimist at times.
I've got about 300 miles on since I installed my Sure Start GT and it's by far the best upgrade you can make IMO! Makes drops, bonks, sketchy trails so much better with the consistent and reliable engagement 👌👌
so cool
Does it let you ghost ride?
Plz look at one of my videos in my channel I have a onewheel pint,I have a problem with it when I turn it on it has red lights and unable to ride a long time plz help,what do I do?
@@101.w_nnja7send it back to future motion for repairs
Adding a tip..
When programming the two features via the left and right sensor, you have to program both before power cycling. Otherwise the settings get deleted and it revert back to stock when entering programming mode again
Steps should be:
1. Enter Programming mode
2. Tap left sensor however many times to your timing preference
3. Press both sensors simultaneously to lock in left sensor setting
4. Press right sensor however many times to your timing preference
5. Press both sensors simultaneously to lock in right sensor setting
6. Power cycle the board and it should now have both settings saved
Repeat steps if unsuccessful
The install mechanism is so clever and the ease of installing is amazing! I'm no stranger to tinkering and soldering sensitive electronics but this is just great engineering and makes it super accessible.
Badger is kind of a smart guy!
I love this thing. Game Changer. A must have for all those that ride a Onewheel. Great Video.
This is what I call innovation! Solving problems based on what riders want!! Future motion neglects allowing these custom setting in their app.
This is UNREAL. This thing seems like a necessity for even basic riders. I ride pint and I have put TONS of little felt furniture feet all over my sensors to stay active. It works really well actually. But I'm always seeing that blue line when dropping. That drop timer is a genius idea my friends. Love you guys
I've been riding the Surestart since the early prototype and I have it on all of my FM controller boards. It's a game changer!
This is so sick 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 False starting or the board disengaging when shifting weight while idling can be dangerous for city riders, I'm glad that'll become a thing of the past 🥳
This is so awesome. I can’t describe how much better you guys are helping the community!
🫶
I can’t believe how good this is! This has changed my board so much and it’s made riding so much more fun! Without you guys one wheels won’t be the same. Thank you so much for what you do. ❤
Very clever, I love it! Keep the upgrades coming you guys. The adjustments on the pro are a great feature. Hey Jeff, wow those rails look fast!
I think I can hear some angry noises coming from Santa Cruz, which makes me happy. What an incredible product and great engineering! Especially for such a seamless integration for such closed source product like the OneWheel
Oh hell yea. My GT sensor is fine as long as I’m wearing the right shoes. This will be so helpful!
So excited for the WTF rails for the GT!
Me too
I really love my standard SureStart! Going to buy a Pro model as soon as they’re out. Also FM sent my board back from repairs once with the gasket stretched and pinched so I’m rocking the badger gasket on that board now😎
Clean/simple design, straight forward directions, and easy install. Though I wish that where Jeff says "... and once thats done, your bumper goes on.", he instead says "... once thats done, your stock bumper goes in the trash and your new BANG bumper goes on."
That would have been rad haha
I almost got rid of my GT because of the awful sensor engagement. I decided to give the SureStart a try...cannot speak highly enough of this product. It is a night and day difference getting on the board. Everyone with a GT needs this.
Eyyyy when we getting those magical rails?! 🙏🤘 Ordered the sure start pro🤘
soon-ish
@@TheFloatLife 🙏🙏 cannot wait
Great product here, I can't go without these! Both my racing boards have Sure Start, Kush Wide, and Enduro tires. Recipe for success!
Worked like a charm, install was not trouble at all. I'm super stoked! Sure start pro here we go
I CAN JUST GET ON! I CAN JUST GET ON THE BOARD AND THEN IT GOES! I DON'T FALL OFF WHILE IDLING ANYMORE! THIS IS THE BEST THING EVER!
(I shoulda watched this first tho, picked up a gasket AFTER the install 💀)
Waiting for these to get back in stock! Such a game changer! 🎉🎉
Just snagged one! I have a pair of shoes that activates my GT pretty well but not always and any other pair it’s frustratingly bad. This might be the most important mod available for a GT.
Nice magic robots mug!
And nice magic for the board too! These things are SO dope! And looking even BETTER than ever guys!
Throwback!
damn it sold out so quick :( hope they restock soon
Can't wait to see what y'all gonna be doing soon.
1/8 inch adhesive rubber directly over the pressure sensitive parts of the pad little strips did the trick for my fiencee's Pint X
I find that using a few dabs of dielectric grease can help hold the gasket in place, alternatively small amount of RTV can also help.
I don't know what they make their gaskets out of, but dialectic grease will eat away at silicone based ones over time.
@@Da0yster That is an excellent point, and I should have been more clear. It is important to know the exact formulation of dielectric grease in use, because there are many different kinds. Usually silicon based dielectric is fine for use on silicon rubber gaskets and o-rings. Compatibility of use information is usually found on the tube, but if not, check with the manufacturer before applying.
Don't want to be like that guy from onewheel riders, sealed up his controller plugs with a liberal application of blue loctite. 😬
Pretty cool, Still on my XR, but that wheel is really nice with all the little fine tuned settings. Good job on the chip creation, electrical motor control has sooooo many options coool guys
Not stopping at stop lights has been my go to but now I want sure start pro. Thanks Jeff
Oh and since the Pint can be Rewheeled to behave like an XR... and Quarted... maybe some custom Pint rails / bumpers? Maybe a Pint comeback?
I think a Pint renaissance is on the horizon
@@TheFloatLife heck yeah!
That _back crack_ tho 🤤
I just ordered a surestart. I hope the update did not bugger this out. Been needing to get one for a while now. Tired of having to wear specific shoes to ride the board lol.
Wow! I just installed this bad boy on my gt and I love the outcome it works pretty good I sure will not look stupid no more on the stop light just step on it and go. The installation is pretty easy and it works like a charm. Thanks guys for this awesome product 🤘
So glad you're loving it! No more stop sign/light shame!
Hi floatlife this is just a follow up review on my surestart pro so after weeks of using now i finally having issue with it every time ride off-road the sensor seems to reset to posi mode. I have open my board twice now and make sure everything is connected and it is. I have to remove and reattached the surestart to make sure it gets proper connection it will work after that then it will go back to posi mode once I hit a bump or drop?
I need this for my XR. It NEVER activated when I get on. I have tried everything and now I just don't ride as much because I'm fed up with the board.
@Antonio Montana So every 1000ish miles I need to spend 100+ on footpads?
i have this on my XR, i bought it from robert at FLF5, i swear its the exact same.
@Antonio Montana how
Can we see more pint x videos then 👀, and bumpers since you fixed the footpad issue 👀
When will the pint ones drop? Checked the site and didn’t see them on there yet .
Excellent! I hope you shall be selling them on your European site! 😁 👍🏾🙏🏾
Yes, yes I do need this...especially after getting dumped multiple times on those flat kick footpads. BUT, I also WANT those rails... couldn't stop staring! 😍
Can’t wait till mine arrive. Tired of looking like a fool when trying to take off. I did not want to remove that extra layer of plastic on the sensor since my grip tape is not even close to being worn out.
Great video and product from Badger! Love the throw back Magic Robots mug. Beep Beep
The best!
I want this for my XR!
If I'm not wrong, this little device came with the acquisition of Badgerwheel, would have been nice to give some more props to Robert on this device, or not, whatevs, could be just cuz it's part of the business. Also might want to mention if this voids warranty or not by opening up the board.
thanks for the walkthrough, definitely saving for when it arrives and I need to do the thing
Really interesting idea! What happens if this device were to fail for some reason? Would it revert to stock behavior or disconnect entirely?
If it were to fail, the footpad just reverts back to normal function.
Dude, is your back alright? That was a good one!
Getting old sucks
hey jeff, thanks for this, it's great! you don't mention what the default sensor timeout and deactivation delay are when reset to factory
Speaking of posi, will there be/is there a posi guide for the XR?
I'm torn between two words...
yeehaw!
-or-
yahooo!
...you get the picture.
looking forward to that text when they're back in stock!
🤠
thats dope thanks jeff and float team
Best mod . For the GT...we wont ride it with out our surestart. Just feels safer in every situation.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
17:06 Ehhh it kinda goes back to stock. Diagnostics mode reverts everything back at zero but factory disengagement delay is around 1-2 milliseconds. Try doing a drop with the disengagement all the way at 0 😂 it’s not fun, I spent a whole day messing with it
It doesn’t revert it back to zero. Sorry if I wasn’t clear on that. It reverts it back to stock
Aren't gonna do a video about AirSense? I'd like to see a comparison of a board with it on and one with it off (or not installed).
This is awesome. I thought it was just me having issues with it getting the initial start. This would make things so much better
Any news on when you're getting the floatwheel to test?
Still waiting patiently.
Tony says boards will ship out third or fourth week of the month, and that shipping will take around month. So people will start receiving their boards near the end of March
@@Jdb63 cheers dude 🤙
Nice. Accelerometer on a nano with a series parallel... it looks like a nano pcb anyways, that's not a jab.. its a credit, well done, thanks for looking out for the community 👍
Rad little chunk of engineenerding there. Good job team. Not for me though.
GT WTFs looking sickkkk! I'll take black please🤪 🙋🏻♂️also Craft and ride magnetic fender won't work with the WTFs will it?🤔
No clue on compatibility. There may be another solution on the horizon though
Just pint, or pintX as well?
Just bought a gt after recall today, as a newbie rider I fell hard due to nosedive at lower speed. Would a flat footpad+surestart fix the sudden disengagement while moving forward? Thank you for saving my life!
Don't see it on the site, when's it available?
Amazing!!! 🎉I have a lot of engagement issues with my GT front pad, I will take it to solve that! And do you have a way to fix a broken connector? I broke the one from the board when I installed the flat front pads…. 😢
The next onehweels should include this as standard.
Great walk through - where can we get the surestart? Its not on your store. Keep the content and great products coming!
Sold out immediately, restock coming soon!
Hi! Can I get one for my XR somewhere?
Is it compatible with the Pint X?
When will they become available again?
Wow!!! you guys are next level!! Awesome product!
When are you going to be selling the one for the Pint?
As soon as they come in!
Lol thanks for the shoutout at the end 😂😂😂😂😂
Gold dubs, enduro, high kick in the front, kush wide in the back, surestart pro... is the GT jeff's main board now??
Release date?
Mine engages every time on my get and I'm a beginner. It definitely depends on what shoes I'm wearing. I switched shoes and it wouldn't engage at all.
The real question is how you cut that fender delete so perfectly like that?
Took way longer than I’d like to admit
@@TheFloatLife any plans on a tutorial vid on how that's done, or ideas on selling precut fendy deletes?
My Pint X left sensor is stuck again. I know because if you connect the sensor after turning on the PintX the left light is locked on. When I briefly tap the right sensor it goes "full tilt" if you are a GenXer, "full send" if you are a millennial. I don't know how it knows but it does... 😂
Then you have to disconnect the foot sensor cable or press the power button to get out of Ghost Mode. I think it's a factory settings... 😅
Anyways, should I replace the whole footpad sensor, with the new FM wooden one they recently released, install a Sure Start P®O, or both? I have already removed the extra sheet of plastic when it locked up on me months ago.
Thanks again guys!
AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THOSE W's MAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!!!
sooooooooon
@@TheFloatLife at this point I may as well ask for banking info so i can just set up a direct deposit for your guys lol
I don’t know how I missed the boat on this amazing product but I am buying this today.
Stupid question: does the scraper and alcohol wipe come with the Surestart Pro or do I need to get my own?
Thanks TFL, as always your shit is the best shit.
Comes with
@@TheFloatLife Thanks for the reply, just placed my order tonight, shipping to Norway. Can’t wait to get it in my hands. TFL products always legit.
Sounds like surestart functionality should be able to do with firmware update if onewheel would make one.
Would the only downside to setting it to permanent single zone sensor be no heel/toe lift to deactivate?
Where can I order the sure start pro? Don’t see it on your website 🤔
How do I order this?
keep an eye on the socials! We'll have updates when they're coming in
Will there be a version of this for the OG Pint? I see only the Pint X is listed on the website. I would LOVE one of these for my OG Pint.
So I own a SureStart standard. Unless I’m missing something it looks like today’s firmware update with custom shaping added to the Onewheel app has made the standard SureStart no longer necessary since it gives the option to make the footpad single zone?
Not really. It depends on what features you're looking for. The new custom shaping has a permanent posi setting, but there is no time out to switch back to two zone so you either have to choose between a two zone with a heel lift or a posi with no heel lift. Sure start means you don't have to choose
If you watch the Onewheel video explaining it and test it out as I have your reply is not accurate. Single zone does have a timeout and heel lift/simple stop still works. Custom shaping also has a setting to change the reengagement timing like the sure start does. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not knocking your product. I have loved it, and you guys are always great. Reason I ask is that since I no longer need the sure start with the new custom shaping it would be in my best interest to remove it. Nothing specific to your product. It’s just best and safest practice to remove any unnecessary mods when it comes to electronics. Additional hardware and software just creates a larger risk of failure, which of course in the case of a Onewheel could lead to injury.
If I’ve missed something please let me know
I’ve been wanting a Surestart but I’ve been waiting for the release :/
I'm sounding the alarm that this device has a nasty QA issue: I bought two of these with my own money and the 3D-printed "clip" mechanism that presses the contacts on the board DOES NOT HOLD under riding conditions. I have two boards, a GT and a PintX and the clip POPPED OUT after being securely installed (with a nice, crisp "click"). The only way to keep it clipped in was to EPOXY the mechanism into place to prevent it from popping out.
You hit up our customer care team yet? The good news is worst case scenario if the clip becomes undone then it just functions as a normal sensor 🤷♀️
@@TheFloatLife Respectfully, I've already epoxied it, so it ain't coming off, but I have to say I'm disappointed in the response "it just functions as a normal sensor" for something that costs $100 smackeroos. That's not the right answer.
Was waiting for this and ordered it as soon as I got the notification. One question though. Is it possible to install it without removing the front Footpad? I kind of broke the connector so it's hot glued in.
Tough to say
Can you do this for Pint X?!
Pint SureStart will be for sale as soon as boards come in
Will
This work for my XR?
Bring back the XR one too! How different could it be?
Problem with the XR version is the parts are crazy expensive and it takes forever to build them by hand.
I have one of the older SureStart XR. Do you know where I can find the instructions for setting it up? Is it the same process as on the GT? Thanks!
Dues it were with og pint????
Any chance of making this for the Pint X?
Foot pad wiring of pint x is same as pint. So yes it will work
@@Kay0Bot I don’t see this listed for anything more than the GT.
My surestart is not working and I used this video to install so any help would be greatly appreciated
I picked up a PintX with 17 miles for only $750. With accessories, their receipt says they spent $1850. 13 miles later I'm getting the orange light of death which I suspect is a sensor code.
I disconnected and removed the front foot pad and it boots up fine, no orange light. With the PinX still on, I proceeded to connect the sensor, the light then indicates the left sensor is engaged without me pressing it; when I press the right, it free spins. Should I remove the extra plastic on the sensor against the wishes of Uncle Sam and Aunt Karen or just install a Sure Start?
I already have 4 XRs, one of which will become a VESC; so I need another OneWheel money pit like I need an extra hole in the head. I see you have WTFs, Kush, and Enduro available for the PINT also but I don't know which is more viable financially. A kitted out PintX, a GT with GT-S $850 Hub or just get the GT-S and throw bangs and dubs on it? Obviously I need the PintX functional, but if I throw a grand at it, I'm less likely to get a GT-S and just kit out a used GT instead.
Sounds like your front footpad is broken and needs to be replaced.
@@TheFloatLife I sent a video of it to a friend in Oregon, all of a sudden, it fixed itself while filming. Initially, it booted orange. I disconnected the sensor, then rebooted. After 10 seconds, I plugged in the sensor and all of a sudden its a solid light instead of the "left pad activated" light. Free spinning off of my workbench, when released, it now stops, when prior I had to hit the button to disengage it. That's only because I connected the sensor after booting initially. The only way to shut off the board after free spinning was with the button. Since rebooting a dozen times, it seems to be fine, but you and I both know that after I screw the pad and bumper back down, it will turn orange again, sooner or later. At least I know what it is and I can now justify dropping money on rails, tire, front/rear pads, etc. You know how it is...
Then again, of course you know how it is. All drug dealers know how it is. The difference between having this conversation with my Stoke Dealer vs. my Drug Dealer; at then end of the day, I have something to show for my expenses from my Stoke Dealer, and my stoke addiction funds the Float Ranch. Circle of life... 😁
Edit:
Fully assembled and working for now... Is there an aftermarket alternative for the PintX front foot pad? I have the platypus front pad on an XR. I've ridden enough to know how to dismount without the heal lift.
Don't see for available on website ? Am I missing something? This is awesome and need one
Sold out real quick. Re-stocking soon
Dude those gold WTFs… boink
Sounds like this can all be fixed with a software upgrade???? Or does the extra hardware need to be installed?
Lots of things can be fixed with software updates from FM.
Yep, Future Motion can do something similar via software... but unlike TFL, FM has to worry about average consumers and the stupid things they can possibly do. I wouldn't hold my breath. :)
I’ve seen loads more OW’s by my house ever since they started running commercials on ESPN. So yea, really dumbing it down. I think TFL buying Badgerwheel was a great purchase for the growth of their company. Maybe they buy Floatwheel next???
@@thewaxlab If Floatwheel wasn’t a Chinese organization that can easily ignore patents and any intellectual property rights, they couldn’t exist at all. Not happening. :)
Hi Craft&Ride!
I followed these directions and now my board is broken... When I tap on one sensor it goes full speed forever. It doesn't end.