There is no goat of any sport that has lost more than they won. Every goat also had to repeatedly over come adversity. No goat recruited all the best players to play with them. Goats live for adversity. They love competition. Lebron hates competition, it gives him a headache and makes him quit
I think the one thing that separates Michael Jeffrey Jordan, from everybody else is the fact that he went 1990 to 1998 without losing 3 games in a row 687 games Including playoffs odds on that are 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.01% is unthinkable.🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐23 skapp pulled out another masterpiece 👏👏👏👏👏👏🎯
LeHaters are so stupid that this guy said 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.01% and he doesn't even realize that's the same as 0.01% 😭
LeBron is just lucky af that he never played against MJ, especially prime MJ. He would have gotten crushed and then no one would even be having this debate.
I've said this for years. Also he had to wait till Kobe retired to open his mouth. Kobe is better than LeBron and lots of people don't put him top 5 I've asked how is LeBron in 1 v 1 comparison better than Bird, Hakeem, Wilt and Bill. Just to be silly I added in Westbrook since they wanna jump at padded stats in an Era that there is no real defense and big men can't camp in the paint LeBron playing in the 70s to 90s would have been cooked
@juanellchapman4545 right but lebron went to 9.5 Finals lil fella and all he won was 3.5 chips lil fella. That's terrible especially since lebron handpicked his teammates lil fella. Nice try though lil fella. Go study up fella because when u REACH I TEACH lil fella lol
As someone who was there for both, there was a major difference between these two. We tuned in to see IF LeBron would win. We tuned in to MJ to see HOW he would win. Huge difference.
That's what happens when you have the best roster in the league by a country mile in a watered down expansion era with a limited talent pool. I mean who was the best team MJ faced in the Finals- Utah? Stockton & Malone right? Who else? Where are those two ranked all time? SHHH.
@@phillyphan1346 Players without a ring because of Jordan - Ewing, Barkley, Malone, Stockton, Miller, Penny, Payton, Kemp, K Johnson. He also beat Magic, coming off back-to-back MVPs and who also had the third best player in that series (Worthy). He swept Shaq, overcame the Bad Boys, and rendered All-Star (Mourning, Tim Hardaway) or HOF players (Mutombo) unable to get past the second round. His "better by a mile roster" lost in the 2nd round in 94 and was .500 until he unretired with a couple weeks left in 95. This is one of the coldest takes I've had to respond to.
“This video made me the greatest basketball content creator of all time”. You’ll never say that… you’ll just patiently wait for us to say it… just as a real GOAT does 🥂
@@skap_attack I think you SHOULD say it, just to further take the piss out of the brontards. Say it CONSTANTLY lolol Post it under everybody else's videos. Say it at the end of all yours hahahaha. "That video right there made me the greatest TH-camr of all time"
The ‘98 series alone proves why Jordan is the undisputed goat. And to me it’s one of the best series performances ever. At 35 and playing without pippen for half the season jordan led the bulls who were the oldest team in the league and one of the worst ranked offensive supporting casts ever, to a 62 and 20 record while he led the league in scoring, made the first team all defense and won the mvp. He went to win the championship facing the Utah jazz who at the time had the greatest power forward ever and one of the greatest pgs ever that beat the Hakeem, drexler and Barkley rockets and swept the Shaq lakers in the playoffs. He did that with pippen struggling with back injuries that final series especially in that crucial game 6 . He single-handedly took that team on his back yet people talk about how lebron “carries franchises” and “bum squads” to the finals
@calebshorts8024 if you actually watch that play and not listen to what people say, you would notice that as soon as Jordan crossed over and Russel kept going forward, Jordan's hand fell straight down. if he pushed off, his arm would've kept going forward with Russel. what you see is basically jordans hand was more like resting on Russel. he probably used as much force as you would guiding your girl to her seat with your hand on her lower back.
The fact MJ was 6 and 0 in all his Championships with the same organization that drafted him without ever going to a game 7 in those chip runs is a mic drop in itself!
Bill Russell had 11 championships with the organization that drafted him. Jordan did go to game 7 against Ric Smits and Reggie Miller in those championship runs🙄🙄🙄
@@jordansoviet23 Wasn't just Cliff, was *2* eventual HOF players, and some other considerations - in a deal that was set up ahead of time. It WOULD be fair to say that Bill spent his entire time in the NBA with one team, though.
@@williamalexander9485that's Eastern conference championship my guy in the FINALS Jordan NEVER went to a game 7. Learn your history before you comment casual
@@beastmodeforever8674 Jordan never went to a game 7 in the Finals because he played trash teams with no talent while he had the best roster in the league. Utah had 2 HOFers, every other opponent he faced had 1 HOFer. He also needed John Paxson to hit a finals winning 3 in 1993 & Steve Kerr to hit a finals winning 3 in 1997. Learn your history clown boy.
Jordan may of got beaten down hard by those teams in his early years, 3 things we can say for sure. 1. He had 0 all stars on his team. (As Skap noted) 2. He still perform amazing in those series, even though he was beaten down. We live in a society that want instant gratification and always take the easy way out. A wise man once said “Nothing in this world is worth having or worth doing unless it means effort, pain, difficulty”. Hence this last one is the defining factor for me. 3. Even though he got beat down hard, he stuck with it and prevailed. Never jumped ship to take the easy way out.
you know from my perspective, even though he lost those series Jeff himself was never beaten.... i think in every series lost he averaged like 40 to 45 a game, I know for James his average in lost ply off series is much less, so I've had to come to terms w/the possibility that if he did have better plyers back then like say for instance a prime Ice Man George Gervin he probably would have done better or maybe even gotten passed the early Pistons.. I dn't see the Celtics though they were just way to deep to beat and had a Larry Bird before his back injury that changed everything for him....
@@maxacorn Yea losing to a team with 5 hall of famers. But you never heard Jordan say the Celtics are just too good. Lebron loses to the Warriors with 3 hall of famers and then 4 and over and over it's "The Warriors are just too good." While Lebron has Kyrie, Love, and JR Smith. Supporting cast vs supporting cast in the 17 Finals: Kyrie, JR, and Love outscored Curry, Klay, and Draymond.
First he had George Gervin who was a 4x scoring champion up until’82 7x All NBA player when Jordan got swept by the Celtics, whose strategy was to let Jordan cook while his team watched. Michael Jordan is the only star player of his era who complained about the Pistons trying to hurt him, neither Magic nor Bird ever did, but the MJ myth must be fed 🤣🤣🤣
@@williamalexander9485 they did try to hurt him.. the reason why they never went at magic like that was because they like the dude and they did go after bird physically he just didn't make a verbal issue out of it, so what are you really talking about????
I think the one stat you missed was James's historical plyoff/finals record against winning teams, its pretty abysmal((in general not just as a g.o.a.t. argument))and really all arguments can be settled there.....
@@Solo_01 there is no direct stat to link to.. all you have to do is look up his record after the 07 finals and see all the teams with winning records he lost to...
The reasons why jordan is the goat is because he is 6x nba champion 5x mvp 10x scoring titles and 9x defensive player of the year and never lost more than 3 games
@@luckifan401 Yea in cumulative stats, PPG is held by Michael in both regular season and playoffs. Until recently MJ had held the PER in regular season and Playoffs over lebron. Accomplishments all side with MJ
People think Jordans competition is weak because Jordan didn't leave space for as many other great players to win chips. Stockton and Malone are so underrated because they don't have a chip, why is it they don't have one?
All the superstars that Jordan took rings from: Karl Malone, John Stockton, Gary Payton, Patrick Ewing, John Starks, Charles Barkley, 1996 Shaq, Reggie Miller, and 1992 Clyde Drexler.
Michael Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen 84-85 38-44..First round exit 85-86. 30-52..First round exit 86-87. 40-42...First round exit 01-02. 37-45..out of playoffs 02-03. 37-45..out of playoffs LeBron james carried an absolutely horrific 2007 Cleveland Cavaliers team to the nba finals In the modern NBA era (post 1960) only nine NBA top 75 players have won a championship without another top 75 player as a teammate Rick Barry (1975) Bill Walton (1977) Hakeem Olajuwon (1994) Tim Duncan (2005) (2007) Kobe Bryant (2009) (2010) Steph Curry (2015) (2022) LeBron james (2016) Kawhi Leonard (2019) Giannis Antetokounmpo (2021) As you can see, LeBron James is on the list and Michael Jordan isnt Lebron james has won 17 playoff series, without an nba top 75 teammate. Michael Jordan won ZERO In the year before Michael Jordan and LeBron James joined their team and the year after they left their team, their records were 83-84 bulls 27-55 84-85 bulls. 38-44 92-93 bulls 57-25 93-94 bulls 55-27 98-99 bulls 13-37 without Scottie Pippen 00-01 wizards 19-63 01-02 wizards. 37-45 02-03 wizards 37-45 03-04 wizards 25-57 02-03 cavaliers 17-65 03-04 cavaliers 35-47 09-10 cavaliers 61-21 10-11 cavaliers 19-63 09-10 heat. 47-35 10-11 heat 58-24 14-15 heat 37-45 2013-14 cavaliers 33-49 2014-15 cavaliers 53-29 2017- 18 cavaliers 50-32 2018-19 cavaliers 19-63 2017-18 lakers. 35-47 2018-19 lakers were 20-14 when LeBron James got injured on Christmas day. As you can see When LeBron James joins a team, the team improves more than Michael Jordan and when LeBron James leaves a team, the team always goes into the tank. Michael Jordan, excluding the 94-97 seasons, when the NBA moved the three point line to 22 feet, was a career 28% three point shooter. LeBron James is a career 34% three point shooter Michael Jordan was a great defensive player, in an Era where you could handcheck. Playing defense is much easier when you can handcheck. For nearly 6'9 250 LeBron James' entire career he wasn't afforded the opportunity to handcheck. THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR..LEBRON JAMES IS THE GOAT!!!!! I have added a Postscript So many have replied, that LeBron james didn't make the playoffs his first two years and Jordan did. What they fail to say is, in 1985, 16 of 23 teams made the playoffs. In 2004, 16 of 29 teams made the playoffs. It was MUCH EASIER Making the playoffs in 1985. Also, I don't know, possibly, maybe, Jordan had a HUGE ADVANTAGE considering he played three years of college basketball and LeBron James was 19 years old, and straight out of high school
@@vicepresidentmikepence889pippen was playing in those later years, he was a bench warmer though 😂 And Lebumboy's teams have never been as bad as those 80s bulls that Jordan carried. They were literally addicted to crack
I’m a real Knick fan so I’m out here in the east and that east the last decade was DISGUSTING - LOSING RECORDS IN THE TOP 8 those 10 final runs don’t mean shit
@@luckifan401it is when your competition is basically glorified AAU teams. For example, LeBron’s overrated 2007 finals run. He played two 41-41 teams, then he played a 50 win Detroit Pistons without Ben Wallace, and then in the finals he played a team that was actually good and he got swept.
@@Mr.Midnight06 yes i understand but bron also had 25 straight to advance to the finals, but i alr kno bron didnt play well against an extremely good spurs defense, they were doubling him a lot
@@luckifan401they were doubling MJ a lot in his 2nd year against the Celtics and still didn’t put up those numbers Lebron put up in 07. MJ is just a better basketball player.
Because Mike WANTED it, unlike pouty ass Lebron who would never chase after bricks and instead point the finger at his team mates. Never enough help 😭😭😭😭😭
That is because Lebron does NOT play defense he cherry picks rebounds Offensive rebounds are harder to get because you are naturally out of position another indictment on Lebrons so called "greatness"
LeBron Lames get upset because for just about every point they think they win Jordan has some stat, record, or accomplishment they didn't know. Thanks for doing the work man. Those 2 5-game series vs Boston were 25% more difficult not to get swept too.
Much less recruiting his own draft class Lebron teamed up with his 2003 draft class Imagine if Jordan teamed up with his 84 draft class.........who went number 1 in 84??? HAKEEEM Jordan and Hakeem would have won 10 rings.........
It's like when the media kept trying to push Brett Favre is the Goat QB cause he "Rebuilt the Vikings" when he had one good season there Favre won one Superbowl choked in the second one and is the League leader in interceptions He had the record for most yards and yds at one point But as Skap showed the goats are Brady and Montana in terms of clutch QB play
Skap, I told you before... Don't stop. Keep going. I wish you were dropping videos during lebron's whole career. It would have given balance to the media coverage and overall narrative. Either way thanks for these videos. Keep em' coming!
The thing too with that '50-win+' stat when expanded to Finals appearances (as opposed to Finals wins) is that puts LeBron's record at 17-6 vs 50-win teams whereas Jordan was 16-0.
But MJ wasn't a underdog against any of those teams with there 50 plus wins... thats why they have power rankings just because you have a good record nobody thinks you that good 😂
Lebron, like I have always said, is nothing more than an overhyped journeyman or second fiddle. He is NOT what you Lebrondas thought he was. He's was you "think" he is. Great vid Skap!
I like calling them LeBron Lames. It's time to stop using being a girl as an insult, especially since so many have been way more competitive than LeBron ever has been.
Another banger. You lay out all the arguments I have for Lebron not even being top 5. Perfectly. His claim to goat status is not natural at all. It’s forced
That wouldn't be a debate either because Kobe has a jumpshot, go-to moves, and orchestrated a Gold Medal for Lebron, who had two previous failures as the top dog.
There is no comparison the media need to stop with the bs Jordan a killer Lebron a victim on the court Jordan won all his finals and lebron went to 4 teams to win 4 rings with the players he wanted to play with!
I'm a simple man - I see a new vid from Skap, and I click! Single handedly doing "God's" work, by helping cement LeFlop's legacy, with pure facts for every future generation to see, know and understand!
@@luckifan401U shouldn't doubt the facts. The only argument left for LeBron was just broken down and proved that LeBron had it easier and had more help and still couldn't get it done. LeBron will always be in Jordan's shadow. That is becoming more and more evident everyday
Michael Jordan never had Midol memes created about him 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 EDIT: Keep in mind the NBA didn't add a third All-NBA team until 1988-89. It doesn't mean much for Jordan's championship runs, but it certainly would've helped provide greater context for the talent Jordan faced early on throughout the 80s if there was an All-NBA third team.
@@user01.x0 I agree in the finals competition was similar which also proves Skap right LeBron James didn't play well and his teams got swept ...twice
Excellent breakdown. But I'm wondering if you included Gilbert Arenas, who was 2nd-team All-NBA in 2007, in your list of Bettis's All-NBA opponents en route to the Finals. Because he in fact didn't even play in that '07 series vs CLE (nor did Caron Butler). Which makes that already overrated run even more overrated. It's also worth noting that in their first 3 title runs ('91-'93 for MJ, '12/'13/'16 for Bettis), not only did MJ average almost 6 more ppg, but he also averaged more APG as well. There goes that "only a scorer" tripe....
This is essentially what Lebron fans try to do: tear down MJ's competition while propping up his teammates to diminish his accomplishments. Once you counter their ridiculous cherry picked (and some completely inaccurate) points without context, you realize they have no clue what they're talking about, and then they go away.😂
@@cocouncil777 The same reason why he didn't mention Lebron getting swept 3 times, despite having better teams with more all star teammates. He's doing an overall evaluation of both their body of work in the playoffs, not taking a single data point to draw a conclusion. You're just proving my point by throwing out this shallow one-liner response. Again, for Lebron fans it's all about cherry picking data without consideration of context to prop up their fake goat.
@@cocouncil777so if Bron played the equivalent of the 17' warriors in the first round what would he have done? You're only making the argument in the favor of Jordan stronger because that just means that LeBron went through little to no adversity in his own conference compared to Jordan...
I actually hope he fails. The flopping, posing, flexing, zero defense and like 1-23 from 3 in the 4th quarters of playoffs was more than I can take. When he got the scoring record and AD walked to back of bench and sat down told me all I needed to know. Kareem obviously well paid to be there looked more uncomfortable than I’ve ever seen him. When he gets an uncontested layup and puts the fake crown on I’m nauseous
I have always stated this - what LBJ did in order to win chips would be the equivalent of MJ teaming up with Hakeem and Barkley after losing to Detroit and then teaming with Shaq once Hakeem and Barkley are old 🤷♂️
Jordan did tesm up with other great players steve kerr had nba 3pt % season record b4 he gotvto chicago witchche still got today ron harper was a scorer b4 he got to chicago dennis rodman was a 2 time champion and the best rebounder in league history
@@cocouncil777 - LMFAO so you’re going to compare Kerr to Ray Allen???? LMFAO STOP, I can’t stop laughing 😂 Ron Harper to D-Wade??? Rodman who was a delinquent in the league to AD???? GTFOH 🤣🤣 you should go ask Joe Rogan if you could have a spot at The Mothership 🤣🤣🤣 funniest crap I’ve ever heard So MJ called these guys to team up??? LMFAO. Even if he did (which he didn’t) he won 3 fcking straight title, MVP, FMVP, 1 defensive team and scoring title while doing it LMFAO 🤣 what did LBJ do 🤣🤣🤣 hilarious, best stand up material I’ve ever heard kid. Seriously, reach out to Joe Rogan. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@cocouncil777 🤣Kerr was a bench player, Rodman was washed and had imploded with the Spurs, while Harper in his prime with the Clippers was a below 20ppg scorer whose team was a first round exit, in case they were making it to the playoffs. And Jordan didn't team up with them, all of them came to Chicago to join the Bulls. Kerr and Harper in specific were brought in while MJ had retired from basketball for the first time and was playing baseball.
@@sakdavid Ooooweeee! Dam you broke it down exactly the way it went! Jordan never lobbied for players, he went to work with whatever he had! Not to mention, most of the players he named came in for the second 3 peat, so what’s his excuse for the first 3 peat?”
Another amazing video. The context are some important, but the media and gen-z openly choose to ignore it. But, in fact... PM18 > Brady jeje. I'm a Denver Broncos hard die fan. Mad respect for you, my friend.
@@skap_attack you have the best youube channel of all times skap keep cooking lebron james until he learns his lesson that he will never be the goat of the nba
Lebron is the most overrated player in nba history but he is also the only player who literally has paid media to make up fake narratives or just flat out lie for him
If you were to pick players for an All Time Greatest team, Lebron wouldn't make the bench because he would be a liability when surrounded by greats. He takes way too many defensive plays off, turns the ball over a lot and his free throws are unreliable. He flops and blames too much and everything has to be about him. Sure, you may get a few more points picking him over someone else but the reasons mentioned would make me overlook him. The media built him and it's sad that younger people buy into that.
LeBron's performance in the final three games of the 2016 Finals was one of the best performances ever. His level of effort and total dominance was astounding. That one series is how Michael Jordan played every game.
He might of had a great performance in the series, but to be the goat is to have the mental to push for that extra inch when the pressures on the most. Kyrie took the last clutch shot because Tyonn Lue looked at LeBron and knew he wasn't there mentally to take it (he said in an interview) whether from exhaustion or something else, he called the last play for Kyrie. You can't be called the Goat when you aren't even involved in the final play for the chip. And yes Jordan did pass the ball two times for the final shot (Pax, Kerr) those were option plays based on the defense not a iso play for Kyrie like in LeBron case. Bron fans just can't admit he's great but not goat material, and that's OK.
I’m disappointed I just found your channel but I think I’ve already watched them all. I found myself laughing out at the Lebron brick off the side of the backboard. Good stuff 🤙
Please Keep Bringing the Truth! Oh don't forget to do the video of if Jordan had 10 future Hall of Fame teammates like LeBron had where you can compare certain players from Jordan era an what if he played with them. He didn't have half the help as LeBron, literally not even half.
That's because people look at a picture of Jordan playing against Jeff Hornacek and judge him based on his physique and skin colour and assume that Jeff Hornacek is not a good player.
@ Skap Attack, I really enjoy your videos. They always provide context to debunk some of the false narratives out there and they're ALWAYS hilarious. I was curious - where do you have Lebron ranked on your all time list?
@@jefftc14 There is a desperate narcissism in today's generation to elevate their own legends by devaluing the legends of old. In the days of yesteryear the new guys always gave credence to the last generation. MJ said he couldn't call himself the GOAT because he never had the chance to play against legends like Bill Russell. Mike Tyson always gave dues to Ali in boxing. In bowling Walter Ray Williams Jr. said Earl Anthony was better than him. Then you got modern stars like LeBron just saying "yeah I'm the greatest of all time."
Thanks for doing this! Hopefully all the Call of Duty experts will eventually grow up and see these videos. Not sure if Nick Wright will ever grow up. He is probably fully grown by now:)
All that you need to know is the 2011 Finals. Lebron was playing on the super team of his own creation. They were the favourites in the finals (barely), and Lebron was supposed to be the best player out of all the players on the floor. He felt so confident in winning that he thought he could mock his opponent's illness. And they lost. And Lebron was maybe the fifth or sixth best player in the series. That is not something that the Greatest Player of All Time can do in their career. That ends all debate for all time.
Does ONE series decide a player's 20 year career? So is Malone a terrible player based off his choking performance in the 97 NBA Finals? Steph Curry isn't great because he choked during the 2019 NBA Finals? Larry dropped 15 15 and 7 on an inefficient 46 TS. Closeout game 6 1996 NBA Finals, Mike shot 5/19 with 12 Freethrows. Let's not forget TRAGIC JOHNSON was a thing too. Greats can choke at times and play poorly, it's about how they bounce back. Since then LeBron has won 4 titles and came back from a 3-1 defecit. LeBron averages 34, 10, and 8 in elimination games for his career. Let's not go too hard on James when he's great too.
@@kdfan35 Sure he can be great, but not the greatest of all time. Sure, you can play poorly, but not for a whole series and not when you disrespect the other team. There is a top spot, and Lebron does not get the top spot. And, after 2011, he never had a shot at it.
@@skap_attack Just found some Incriminating stats regarding the Kobe vs Lebron "debate" Lebron has NOT won back to back or any title WITHOUT a 20ppg scorer Wade 23PPG in the 4 years playing with lebron Kyrie 22.3PPG in the 4 years playing with lebron Davis 24.6PPG Lebrons 3rd option Kevin love and Chris bosh both averaged 17PPG in the years playing with lebron with Pau alone 3 straight NBA Finals appearances and he averaged 18.7PPG CONCLUSION Lebrons 2nd options both had greater output than Kobes 2nd option and lebrons 3rd option had just about equal output compared to Kobes 2nd option and if you compare lebrons 8 year run to the finals he averaged 26.5PPG and Kobe as the 2nd option in the 3peat years averaged 25.4PPG So with slower pace of play Hand checking rules still in place Kobe as a 2nd option had similar output/impact as lebrons prime years going to 8 straight finals LOL My ammo for you Kobe lebron breakdowns :)
I just don't understand what's wrong with these people. Even if ya wanna challenge MJ as the G.O.A.T LeBron ain't the one to do it with. It's ok, almost no one gets close to that level. I don't get why they can't just be happy that he does what he does.
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Love it, always look forward to your new videos. Jordan is the GOAT period , end of story. Thank you for always exposing LeClown unlike the lamestream media.
@@jaydot4956 Better than lebron’s. He’s not losing in 07, he’s definitely no losing 2014 spurs team out their prime, he’s not losing 2017 because he would actually play defense on KD. And 2018 he’s not losing game 1 or scoring 2 points in OT, and he’s not losing game 3 at home when Steph and Klay went 11/27 combined
@@judahmourneth3211 bro a 22 year old Jordan with no other all star is not beating the 07 Spurs, and you’re crapping on the 2014 Spurs but how “out of their prime” could they have been if they made it out the tough western conference two years in a row? I’m not sure Jordan is beating the 2014 Spurs with a hobbled pippen like Wade was hobbled, Jordan definitely ain’t beating the warriors in 2015 without his second and third best players, and he definitely ain’t beating the KD warriors by himself in 2018.
@@jaydot4956 lol so because Lebron couldn’t beat them jordan wouldn’t be able too. Jordan was 22 facing the Celtics avg 43/5/6 50% while a 21 year old lebron faced an 07 spurs avg 22/7/6 35% 5TO. Those cavs teams were built on defense. They held the spurs under 85 3 out 4 games. Games 3 and 4 they lost by 3 and 1. Unlike lebron at 21, 22 year old MJ knew how to shoot.
In the early years (from '86 to '90), when Jordan was basically playing by himself and getting eliminated by Celtics and Pistons, here are his averages during those playoff series: - 1986 ECR1 vs Celtics: 43.6 PPG (he set an all-time NBA record by scoring 63 points in a playoff game, against '86 Celtics!!!) - 1987 ECR1 vs Celtics: 35.6 PPG - 1988 ECR1 vs Cavaliers: 45.2 PPG - 1988 ECR2 vs Pistons: 27.4 PPG - 1989 ECR1 vs Cavaliers: 40 PPG - 1989 ECSF vs Knicks: 35.6 PPG - 1989 ECF vs Pistons: 29.6 PPG - 1990 ECR1 vs Bucks: 36.7 PPG - 1990 ECSF vs 76ers: 43 PPG - 1990 ECF vs Pistons: 32.1 PPG Obviously he did all he could, then once he got another all-star on his team (Pippen) and played a full season, he never again DIDN'T win the championship in 6 games or less. Unbelievable.
I'm going to go have to go with my instincts on this one - MICHAEL JORDAN, by a long shot! He won so many more awards in a much shorter time than LeBron. MJ played 15 seasons and LeBron is going to play his 21st. Congrats on LeBron for playing so long, however, MJ is a hundred times better.
@@aarontrainor9918 only played one full season with wizards .. Full! N I purposely put full seasons in Chicago. He got hurt his first year in Washington
"Jordan's competition wasn't as good as LeBron's" argument is so stupid, because when MJ played the game was far more physical and defenses were much greater, so even if Jordan played against slightly lesser competition (which is very debatable), it was still much harder to dominate the game then than it is now. In the 80s and 90s, average team score was ~ 90-95 points, today it's ~ 115-120 points, and Jordan still averaged OVER 30 PPG, and over 33 PPG in the playoffs and Finals series. Not to mention, he was simultaneously one of the best defenders in the world. If Jordan played today, against this "superior competition," he would undoubtedly average over 40 PPG, while simultaneously being one of the best defenders in the world. Let that sink in...
You should have mentioned the following INSANE Jordan stat: only time Jordan played with another all-star on his team (Pippen) was from 1991 to 1998, during that span Jordan played 26 playoff series, his record? 25-1, only loss coming in 1995, when he un-retired and returned to playing basketball with only a few games left in the season. In Finals, he averaged 33,5 PPG, winning, as we all know, 6 Finals MVPs and never even allowing a game 7. That's inhuman
Jordan´s North Carolina team trained with the greek national team when Nick Galis invited them. The greek´s learned a lot these days, but you could see a shift in defence in NC´s game.
One small note is that it's deceptive to say Jordan only had Pippen. He also had Rodman, who was the greatest rebounder of all time. To exclude Rodman from the conversation about Jordan's offensive ability is a mistake.
people forget that a monster of mj played on guard position while he plays defense and offense, a nonstop effort. a forward like james is too fragile for the early 90s style. the pistons would break him thats for sure. 😅
Comparing Jordan and LeBron is like comparing Kobe with Lamar Odom they are completely different in terms of position, skill, and accolades, and it is silly that people put LeBron and Michael in the same conversation. It’s not even close. LeBron is all hype and little substance.
Great video but one nitpick is that Scottie was an all star in 1990, so Jordan did have an all star then but tbf Scottie got a Migraine in against detroitbso Jordan was alone again. Doesn't affect the point though.
Crazy how he tried to slander brons playmaking by showing fails from his over 20 year career and not the 2 hour long highlight reel that could have replaced it
Wow dude. You killed it with this one. It's like, lebron cheerleaders say he faced tougher comp than Jordan because LeBron lost to the warriors 3 times. Reason it looks that way is because unlike lebron, Jordans competition in the finals didn't win. That's why it looks like Jordan finals comp was easier. Jordan is the goat Lebron plays a character of the goat.
Not only did Jordan face better teams during his championship years, but he also had to play in a much tougher NBA in which a degree of physical contact was allowed. This smash mouth environment gave birth to the Bad Boy Detroit Pistons who played a brand of hard knock street basketball that would make modern NBA players run for cover. The Pistons won back-to-back championships in 1989 and 1990 by literally beating up players on opposing teams. Jordan had to deal with hard fouls and hand checking, both of which were removed from the game in 2004. Lebron's longevity is likely the result of his body not taking the physical beating 1990s players were accustomed to. It is much easier to score in Lebron's era than it was during Jordan's time. Also, the 3-point shot has become more important than working the paint and fighting for close range shots and lay ups. The center was more dominant in Jordan's era. Nowadays centers want to play like point guards leaving the basket unprotected a majority of the time. By the way, the NBA removed hand checking because players were having a difficult time generating offense from the perimeter. Jordan was so good that without hand checking, he would have destroyed defenses and attacked the basket at will on every possession. Jordan was so good the Pistons had to create so-called "Jordan Rules." Not a single team has had to create a special game plan to defend against Lebron. Just play him like you would any other player. The media hacks and LBJ fanboys need to shut the hell up. There is no debate. Michael Jordan is the GOAT. He is a true leader who made his teammates better. The Bulls were trash when he arrived in 1984. Before his rookie season was over attendance went up and eventually the team found themselves playing to record setting crowds. Jordan grinded his way to the top and carried the Bulls with him. Lebron lacked the leadership to make the Cavilers better, so he left and joined a super team. It's like buying shark cards and using cheat mods in GTA Online to get ahead.
There is no goat of any sport that has lost more than they won. Every goat also had to repeatedly over come adversity. No goat recruited all the best players to play with them. Goats live for adversity. They love competition. Lebron hates competition, it gives him a headache and makes him quit
Beautifully and perfectly stated. LeBron has been trying to take the easy way out since he took his talents to South Beach well over a decade ago...
Thank you perfect.👍🏾
Wasn't he supposed to have not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4,5,6 or 7 championship by the time he left south beach?
This is more or less what I think every time I see LeBron get "hurt". MJ all day.
Well Said
I think the one thing that separates Michael Jeffrey Jordan, from everybody else is the fact that he went 1990 to 1998 without losing 3 games in a row 687 games
Including playoffs odds on that are 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.01% is unthinkable.🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐23 skapp pulled out another masterpiece 👏👏👏👏👏👏🎯
Yeaaaah, that will never be done ever again.
JimmyHighroller had video about it. It's absolutely insane stat.
Steph Curry is 2nd with 314 game and still active.... that's how far MJ is ahead!!
LeHaters are so stupid that this guy said 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.01% and he doesn't even realize that's the same as 0.01% 😭
@@kdfan35lol
LeBron is just lucky af that he never played against MJ, especially prime MJ. He would have gotten crushed and then no one would even be having this debate.
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I've said this for years. Also he had to wait till Kobe retired to open his mouth.
Kobe is better than LeBron and lots of people don't put him top 5
I've asked how is LeBron in 1 v 1 comparison better than Bird, Hakeem, Wilt and Bill.
Just to be silly I added in Westbrook since they wanna jump at padded stats in an Era that there is no real defense and big men can't camp in the paint
LeBron playing in the 70s to 90s would have been cooked
@@krimezonelebron stats would have been insanely inflated back then lets be honest
lebron played kobe and beat him 16-6 so that's impossible
@@luckifan401so when NBA was setting up the finals show down between the Lakers and Cavs what happened Kobe did his job where was Bron
Lebron 3.5 rings in 21 seasons despite superteaming is 😂😂😂😂
Underrated comment
Well some people played more than that and still didn’t get one !!!!!! Get off LBJ nuts and find another narrative to talk to about
@juanellchapman4545 right but lebron went to 9.5 Finals lil fella and all he won was 3.5 chips lil fella. That's terrible especially since lebron handpicked his teammates lil fella.
Nice try though lil fella. Go study up fella because when u REACH I TEACH lil fella lol
By that logic, Kobe only got 3
3.5 rings. EXACTLY RIGHT
As someone who was there for both, there was a major difference between these two. We tuned in to see IF LeBron would win. We tuned in to MJ to see HOW he would win. Huge difference.
That's what happens when you have the best roster in the league by a country mile in a watered down expansion era with a limited talent pool. I mean who was the best team MJ faced in the Finals- Utah? Stockton & Malone right? Who else? Where are those two ranked all time?
SHHH.
I was more likely to tune in to see how Bird's Celtics would beat MJ's Bulls THIS TIME.
@@phillyphan1346 you miss the part about the Celtics etc my dude? ROFL
@@phillyphan1346 Players without a ring because of Jordan - Ewing, Barkley, Malone, Stockton, Miller, Penny, Payton, Kemp, K Johnson.
He also beat Magic, coming off back-to-back MVPs and who also had the third best player in that series (Worthy). He swept Shaq, overcame the Bad Boys, and rendered All-Star (Mourning, Tim Hardaway) or HOF players (Mutombo) unable to get past the second round.
His "better by a mile roster" lost in the 2nd round in 94 and was .500 until he unretired with a couple weeks left in 95.
This is one of the coldest takes I've had to respond to.
@@TheLastWalentaHe's a Philly fan!
“This video made me the greatest basketball content creator of all time”. You’ll never say that… you’ll just patiently wait for us to say it… just as a real GOAT does 🥂
Haha I appreciate that and you 🙏❤
THAT WAS FUNNY !!!!!🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
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@@skap_attack I think you SHOULD say it, just to further take the piss out of the brontards. Say it CONSTANTLY lolol Post it under everybody else's videos. Say it at the end of all yours hahahaha.
"That video right there made me the greatest TH-camr of all time"
@@toasty862 lololol I think I can work something in along these lines in an upcoming video I’m working on
The ‘98 series alone proves why Jordan is the undisputed goat. And to me it’s one of the best series performances ever. At 35 and playing without pippen for half the season jordan led the bulls who were the oldest team in the league and one of the worst ranked offensive supporting casts ever, to a 62 and 20 record while he led the league in scoring, made the first team all defense and won the mvp. He went to win the championship facing the Utah jazz who at the time had the greatest power forward ever and one of the greatest pgs ever that beat the Hakeem, drexler and Barkley rockets and swept the Shaq lakers in the playoffs. He did that with pippen struggling with back injuries that final series especially in that crucial game 6 . He single-handedly took that team on his back yet people talk about how lebron “carries franchises” and “bum squads” to the finals
The finals was rigged in 98 and it was a clear push off
@@calebshorts8024 cope. You’re also acting like it was a game 7. Bulls would win it regardless
@@calebshorts8024 NO PUSHOFF!!!!!!!!!! You could see that his arm wasn't extended to do that
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Don't wanna bring up push-offs when lbj uses his forearm 2 get by defenders
@calebshorts8024 if you actually watch that play and not listen to what people say, you would notice that as soon as Jordan crossed over and Russel kept going forward, Jordan's hand fell straight down. if he pushed off, his arm would've kept going forward with Russel. what you see is basically jordans hand was more like resting on Russel. he probably used as much force as you would guiding your girl to her seat with your hand on her lower back.
The fact MJ was 6 and 0 in all his Championships with the same organization that drafted him without ever going to a game 7 in those chip runs is a mic drop in itself!
Bill Russell had 11 championships with the organization that drafted him. Jordan did go to game 7 against Ric Smits and Reggie Miller in those championship runs🙄🙄🙄
@@williamalexander9485nope Bill Russell was drafted by the St. Louis Hawks and was promptly traded to the Celtics on draft day for Cliff Hagan.
@@jordansoviet23 Wasn't just Cliff, was *2* eventual HOF players, and some other considerations - in a deal that was set up ahead of time.
It WOULD be fair to say that Bill spent his entire time in the NBA with one team, though.
@@williamalexander9485that's Eastern conference championship my guy in the FINALS Jordan NEVER went to a game 7. Learn your history before you comment casual
@@beastmodeforever8674 Jordan never went to a game 7 in the Finals because he played trash teams with no talent while he had the best roster in the league. Utah had 2 HOFers, every other opponent he faced had 1 HOFer. He also needed John Paxson to hit a finals winning 3 in 1993 & Steve Kerr to hit a finals winning 3 in 1997. Learn your history clown boy.
The one and only undisputed Goat of basketball: Michael Jeffrey Jordan 🐐
not undisputed
Facts jordan is my favorite but undisputed I disagree too
@@luckifan401Very undisputed.
@@kovy689 not if large margins other ppl think differently
@@luckifan401Large margins of teen fans and marketing media?
You mean those?
Jordan may of got beaten down hard by those teams in his early years, 3 things we can say for sure.
1. He had 0 all stars on his team. (As Skap noted)
2. He still perform amazing in those series, even though he was beaten down.
We live in a society that want instant gratification and always take the easy way out. A wise man once said “Nothing in this world is worth having or worth doing unless it means effort, pain, difficulty”. Hence this last one is the defining factor for me.
3. Even though he got beat down hard, he stuck with it and prevailed. Never jumped ship to take the easy way out.
you know from my perspective, even though he lost those series Jeff himself was never beaten.... i think in every series lost he averaged like 40 to 45 a game, I know for James his average in lost ply off series is much less, so I've had to come to terms w/the possibility that if he did have better plyers back then like say for instance a prime Ice Man George Gervin he probably would have done better or maybe even gotten passed the early Pistons.. I dn't see the Celtics though they were just way to deep to beat and had a Larry Bird before his back injury that changed everything for him....
he got swept by one of the greatest teams in NBA history, lead by one of the greatest players ever. that is not a black mark against MJ.
@@maxacorn Yea losing to a team with 5 hall of famers. But you never heard Jordan say the Celtics are just too good. Lebron loses to the Warriors with 3 hall of famers and then 4 and over and over it's "The Warriors are just too good." While Lebron has Kyrie, Love, and JR Smith. Supporting cast vs supporting cast in the 17 Finals: Kyrie, JR, and Love outscored Curry, Klay, and Draymond.
First he had George Gervin who was a 4x scoring champion up until’82 7x All NBA player when Jordan got swept by the Celtics, whose strategy was to let Jordan cook while his team watched. Michael Jordan is the only star player of his era who complained about the Pistons trying to hurt him, neither Magic nor Bird ever did, but the MJ myth must be fed 🤣🤣🤣
@@williamalexander9485 they did try to hurt him.. the reason why they never went at magic like that was because they like the dude and they did go after bird physically he just didn't make a verbal issue out of it, so what are you really talking about????
You never miss Skap. I haven't even watched the video yet and I know its 100% accurate and amazing! Keep cooking Skap 💪🏾
I think the one stat you missed was James's historical plyoff/finals record against winning teams, its pretty abysmal((in general not just as a g.o.a.t. argument))and really all arguments can be settled there.....
Interested to know. Can you post here or send me a link where I can see?
@@Solo_01 there is no direct stat to link to.. all you have to do is look up his record after the 07 finals and see all the teams with winning records he lost to...
@@Solo_01 also you can't post links on yt remember
@@billybadass3056 right. I just was looking for the easy answer at the moment. I can do that. thanks!
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The reasons why jordan is the goat is because he is 6x nba champion 5x mvp 10x scoring titles and 9x defensive player of the year and never lost more than 3 games
Don't forget 2x slam dunk champ
9x DPOY? He was 9x all-defensive 1st team
@@legrandelysee98 that is what i said on the comments
@@martinofrancois2749u indeed did not
@@legrandelysee98
He also lead the NBA in steals three times
MJ has been the 🐐🐐. Nothing lebron has done has touched MJ in the regular season, Olympics, and the playoffs and finals
he beats him in everything in the playoffs except ppg
@@luckifan401 Yea in cumulative stats, PPG is held by Michael in both regular season and playoffs. Until recently MJ had held the PER in regular season and Playoffs over lebron. Accomplishments all side with MJ
MJ is the real goat 🐐
Nothing like comparing the myotonic/fainting goat = James to the real GOAT = JORDAN
No comparison.
“That one there made me the greatest of all time” always cracks me up when you put it in your vids LMAO
It always cracks me up too lol.
@@skap_attack it's the clip from 2018 after the JR Smith incident for me pls never stop using that 😂
You can see in his body language he don't even believe it
@@baxterbrown8088 one of my favorite all time Lebron clips 😂 😂
@@jonjoe89 totally 😂 😂
People think Jordans competition is weak because Jordan didn't leave space for as many other great players to win chips. Stockton and Malone are so underrated because they don't have a chip, why is it they don't have one?
All the superstars that Jordan took rings from: Karl Malone, John Stockton, Gary Payton, Patrick Ewing, John Starks, Charles Barkley, 1996 Shaq, Reggie Miller, and 1992 Clyde Drexler.
To be fair karl Malone was a underperformer in the playoffs in general
Keep em coming skap!! LeBum needs to be exposed
Michael Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen
84-85 38-44..First round exit
85-86. 30-52..First round exit
86-87. 40-42...First round exit
01-02. 37-45..out of playoffs
02-03. 37-45..out of playoffs
LeBron james carried an absolutely horrific 2007 Cleveland Cavaliers team to the nba finals
In the modern NBA era (post 1960) only nine NBA top 75 players have won a championship without another top 75 player as a teammate
Rick Barry (1975)
Bill Walton (1977)
Hakeem Olajuwon (1994)
Tim Duncan (2005) (2007)
Kobe Bryant (2009) (2010)
Steph Curry (2015) (2022)
LeBron james (2016)
Kawhi Leonard (2019)
Giannis Antetokounmpo (2021)
As you can see, LeBron James is on the list and Michael Jordan isnt
Lebron james has won 17 playoff series, without an nba top 75 teammate. Michael Jordan won ZERO
In the year before Michael Jordan and LeBron James joined their team and the year after they left their team, their records were
83-84 bulls 27-55
84-85 bulls. 38-44
92-93 bulls 57-25
93-94 bulls 55-27
98-99 bulls 13-37 without Scottie Pippen
00-01 wizards 19-63
01-02 wizards. 37-45
02-03 wizards 37-45
03-04 wizards 25-57
02-03 cavaliers 17-65
03-04 cavaliers 35-47
09-10 cavaliers 61-21
10-11 cavaliers 19-63
09-10 heat. 47-35
10-11 heat 58-24
14-15 heat 37-45
2013-14 cavaliers 33-49
2014-15 cavaliers 53-29
2017- 18 cavaliers 50-32
2018-19 cavaliers 19-63
2017-18 lakers. 35-47
2018-19 lakers were 20-14 when LeBron James got injured on Christmas day.
As you can see When LeBron James joins a team, the team improves more than Michael Jordan and when LeBron James leaves a team, the team always goes into the tank.
Michael Jordan, excluding the 94-97 seasons, when the NBA moved the three point line to 22 feet, was a career 28% three point shooter. LeBron James is a career 34% three point shooter
Michael Jordan was a great defensive player, in an Era where you could handcheck. Playing defense is much easier when you can handcheck. For nearly 6'9 250 LeBron James' entire career he wasn't afforded the opportunity to handcheck.
THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR..LEBRON JAMES IS THE GOAT!!!!!
I have added a Postscript
So many have replied, that LeBron james didn't make the playoffs his first two years and Jordan did. What they fail to say is, in 1985, 16 of 23 teams made the playoffs. In 2004, 16 of 29 teams made the playoffs. It was MUCH EASIER Making the playoffs in 1985. Also, I don't know, possibly, maybe, Jordan had a HUGE ADVANTAGE considering he played three years of college basketball and LeBron James was 19 years old, and straight out of high school
@@vicepresidentmikepence889dude, you again??
not reading Declaration of Independence lil bro
@@vicepresidentmikepence889pippen was playing in those later years, he was a bench warmer though 😂
And Lebumboy's teams have never been as bad as those 80s bulls that Jordan carried. They were literally addicted to crack
@@vicepresidentmikepence889
Dude, get some friends for god sakes
I’m a real Knick fan so I’m out here in the east and that east the last decade was DISGUSTING - LOSING RECORDS IN THE TOP 8 those 10 final runs don’t mean shit
bc its so easy to go to 8 straight finals right
@@luckifan401it is when your competition is basically glorified AAU teams. For example, LeBron’s overrated 2007 finals run. He played two 41-41 teams, then he played a 50 win Detroit Pistons without Ben Wallace, and then in the finals he played a team that was actually good and he got swept.
@@Mr.Midnight06 yes i understand but bron also had 25 straight to advance to the finals, but i alr kno bron didnt play well against an extremely good spurs defense, they were doubling him a lot
@@luckifan401they were doubling MJ a lot in his 2nd year against the Celtics and still didn’t put up those numbers Lebron put up in 07.
MJ is just a better basketball player.
@@judahmourneth3211 maybd bc the spurs were a better defense and it was straight white old dudes guarding mj
Fun Fact: MJ (1,668) still has more career offensive rebounds then Lebron (1,666) despite playing......350 less games then Lebron!
DAMN ⚰
@@themightyruler1319
And blocks too
Because Mike WANTED it, unlike pouty ass Lebron who would never chase after bricks and instead point the finger at his team mates. Never enough help 😭😭😭😭😭
That is because Lebron does NOT play defense he cherry picks rebounds
Offensive rebounds are harder to get because you are naturally out of position
another indictment on Lebrons so called "greatness"
But thats because the game rules changed all ya'll lost it wasn't no illegal defense so players could camp out in the paint
LeBron Lames get upset because for just about every point they think they win Jordan has some stat, record, or accomplishment they didn't know. Thanks for doing the work man.
Those 2 5-game series vs Boston were 25% more difficult not to get swept too.
Jordan never recruited all star players in his roaster
Much less recruiting his own draft class
Lebron teamed up with his 2003 draft class
Imagine if Jordan teamed up with his 84 draft class.........who went number 1 in 84??? HAKEEEM
Jordan and Hakeem would have won 10 rings.........
Don't forget barkely
@@oakleymemes7450 ah yes indeed
I am always surprised James is still in the GOAT convo.
It's like when the media kept trying to push Brett Favre is the Goat QB cause he "Rebuilt the Vikings" when he had one good season there
Favre won one Superbowl choked in the second one and is the League leader in interceptions
He had the record for most yards and yds at one point
But as Skap showed the goats are Brady and Montana in terms of clutch QB play
@@Chuck_EL but lebron doesnt have one good season and hes the most clutch player ever in his respective sport
Because Lebron 🍆 riders can't accept that their precious Lebron isn't even in the same stratosphere as MJ
@@luckifan401how has no one responded to this before 😂 Lebron is not the most clutch what are you even talking about
@@cfl4286 yea he is? dont try to play me like im dumb, look at the stats
2 out of Lebron’s 4 championships were during shortened seasons. His 1st was a lockout year and last was the bubble 💀
Jordan won two rings in the 1995 and 1996 lockout seasons
@@AD-ol3wv No kid, MJ did NOT win in 95, you were better off staying silent.
@@allpraisestothemosthigh9418 1995 nba lockout was the 95-96 season and the 96 lockout was 96-97 shi u better off silent if you gon talk bullshit
@AD-ol3wv stop embarrassing ur self lil fella lol. Go study up fella.
@@g24deez bro just look it up💀
Jordan brings his A game
LeBron brings a game
Underrated comment.
Lol exactly right
Skap, I told you before... Don't stop. Keep going. I wish you were dropping videos during lebron's whole career. It would have given balance to the media coverage and overall narrative. Either way thanks for these videos. Keep em' coming!
The thing too with that '50-win+' stat when expanded to Finals appearances (as opposed to Finals wins) is that puts LeBron's record at 17-6 vs 50-win teams whereas Jordan was 16-0.
But MJ wasn't a underdog against any of those teams with there 50 plus wins... thats why they have power rankings just because you have a good record nobody thinks you that good 😂
In 11 seasons in Cleveland, LeBron won one championship, lost 4 finals, and got swept twice😬
If Kyrie missed that shot, it would have been over.
@@1234jokerboy if kyrie missed the shot its a tie game still and the cavs won by 4 not 3
oh wow!!!
Lebron, like I have always said, is nothing more than an overhyped journeyman or second fiddle. He is NOT what you Lebrondas thought he was. He's was you "think" he is. Great vid Skap!
Thank you! And thanks for watching.
@@user01.x0second fiddle to ADisney
@@skap_attack
If you watched the 1996 50 anniversary all NBA players
Jordan competed against 25 of the 50 players chosen
I like calling them LeBron Lames. It's time to stop using being a girl as an insult, especially since so many have been way more competitive than LeBron ever has been.
Journey men don’t win finals mvps every where they go.
Here’s another fun stat: From 1988-1998 when Michael Jordan took a series lead he only lost one, in 1989 to the eventual Champion Detroit Pistons
Another banger. You lay out all the arguments I have for Lebron not even being top 5. Perfectly. His claim to goat status is not natural at all. It’s forced
then u dont know ball
I honestly think this 'debate' is just to promote the game. If another great player comes along people will try to compare the next guy to Jordan.
This isn't a debate.... I'd think a better debate would be Kobo VS LeBron.
That wouldn't be a debate either because Kobe has a jumpshot, go-to moves, and orchestrated a Gold Medal for Lebron, who had two previous failures as the top dog.
Jordan will always be the goat of the nba
Kobe so close tbh
@@BreakfastKids Kobe isn't even greater than LBJ, Magic, or Jabbar. It's those 3 and then everyone else in terms of greatness.
@@kdfan35
in no order it’s jordan kobe bird
The music must never be changed. It's simply epic with the voice over.
Skap came out firing on all cylinders with this one! That outro was both well articulated while simultaneously scathing 🔥
The finality of “… and there never was” at the end was chilling bro!👍🏽 My LeBron simping friend hates I keep sharing your vids 😂
You do a great job of putting words and facts to what I witnessed. Thanks for the hard work.
There is no comparison the media need to stop with the bs Jordan a killer Lebron a victim on the court Jordan won all his finals and lebron went to 4 teams to win 4 rings with the players he wanted to play with!
won 4 rings with 3 different teams
@@luckifan401 yea left the cavs afther they burned his jersey and stepped on his shit then he came running back 🏃♀️
Lebron is the ultimate killer. Killing the NBA.
@@leeronald3645 bot
I'm a simple man - I see a new vid from Skap, and I click!
Single handedly doing "God's" work, by helping cement LeFlop's legacy, with pure facts for every future generation to see, know and understand!
This is poetic. Good job. Jordan is the goat no doubt 🐐
im doubting it
@@luckifan401U shouldn't doubt the facts. The only argument left for LeBron was just broken down and proved that LeBron had it easier and had more help and still couldn't get it done. LeBron will always be in Jordan's shadow. That is becoming more and more evident everyday
Michael Jordan never had Midol memes created about him 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
EDIT: Keep in mind the NBA didn't add a third All-NBA team until 1988-89. It doesn't mean much for Jordan's championship runs, but it certainly would've helped provide greater context for the talent Jordan faced early on throughout the 80s if there was an All-NBA third team.
Jordan faced better competion than lebron james
Biggest lie in the world😂😂😂
cant even say that with a straight face
@@user01.x0
I agree in the finals competition was similar which also proves Skap right
LeBron James didn't play well and his teams got swept ...twice
Your going to seriously say that guys like Gary Payton, Clyde drexler and John Stockton are tougher competition than KD, Steph and Duncan?
No the hell he didn’t the Utah jazz twice don’t think so the sun s Portland and settle were pretty good didn’t LA was just older !!!!
Excellent breakdown. But I'm wondering if you included Gilbert Arenas, who was 2nd-team All-NBA in 2007, in your list of Bettis's All-NBA opponents en route to the Finals. Because he in fact didn't even play in that '07 series vs CLE (nor did Caron Butler). Which makes that already overrated run even more overrated.
It's also worth noting that in their first 3 title runs ('91-'93 for MJ, '12/'13/'16 for Bettis), not only did MJ average almost 6 more ppg, but he also averaged more APG as well. There goes that "only a scorer" tripe....
Bettis?
@@jamespenny9482 Lebron. He plays basketball like Jerome Bettis played football. Lmao
I have myself a nice laugh before I even watch a new vid released by Skap. Highlight of my day for sure.
"Shut up, boss! Skap Attack's on and I gotta watch this!"
Let em know! 🔥👊🙏
This is essentially what Lebron fans try to do: tear down MJ's competition while propping up his teammates to diminish his accomplishments. Once you counter their ridiculous cherry picked (and some completely inaccurate) points without context, you realize they have no clue what they're talking about, and then they go away.😂
Why he didn't tell how jordan got sweep twice by that Boston Celtics Larry Bird team
@@cocouncil777 The same reason why he didn't mention Lebron getting swept 3 times, despite having better teams with more all star teammates. He's doing an overall evaluation of both their body of work in the playoffs, not taking a single data point to draw a conclusion. You're just proving my point by throwing out this shallow one-liner response. Again, for Lebron fans it's all about cherry picking data without consideration of context to prop up their fake goat.
@@tylerd8245 but he got sweep in the finals not the 1st round like Jordan
@@cocouncil777 If that's your sole argument and what you think, cool.
@@cocouncil777so if Bron played the equivalent of the 17' warriors in the first round what would he have done? You're only making the argument in the favor of Jordan stronger because that just means that LeBron went through little to no adversity in his own conference compared to Jordan...
If Lebron is so great why do his little baby fans have to cry and try and convince us constantly? Zero defense flopping 4th quarter gag machine
Why does he need a superteam every time?
Every year the lineup changes to boost him. I’m a lifelong Lakers fan from late 60’s. Wish he’d just leave LA
@@RMGCBG Same as a Lakers fan. It’s hard being attached to the team now.
Y’all must have forgot what LA was like before Bron got there
I actually hope he fails. The flopping, posing, flexing, zero defense and like 1-23 from 3 in the 4th quarters of playoffs was more than I can take. When he got the scoring record and AD walked to back of bench and sat down told me all I needed to know. Kareem obviously well paid to be there looked more uncomfortable than I’ve ever seen him. When he gets an uncontested layup and puts the fake crown on I’m nauseous
I have always stated this - what LBJ did in order to win chips would be the equivalent of MJ teaming up with Hakeem and Barkley after losing to Detroit and then teaming with Shaq once Hakeem and Barkley are old 🤷♂️
Jordan did tesm up with other great players steve kerr had nba 3pt % season record b4 he gotvto chicago witchche still got today ron harper was a scorer b4 he got to chicago dennis rodman was a 2 time champion and the best rebounder in league history
@@cocouncil777he didn’t team up, they came to the bulls, you kids are desperate and pathetic
@@cocouncil777 - LMFAO so you’re going to compare Kerr to Ray Allen???? LMFAO STOP, I can’t stop laughing 😂
Ron Harper to D-Wade??? Rodman who was a delinquent in the league to AD???? GTFOH 🤣🤣 you should go ask Joe Rogan if you could have a spot at The Mothership 🤣🤣🤣 funniest crap I’ve ever heard
So MJ called these guys to team up??? LMFAO. Even if he did (which he didn’t) he won 3 fcking straight title, MVP, FMVP, 1 defensive team and scoring title while doing it LMFAO 🤣 what did LBJ do 🤣🤣🤣 hilarious, best stand up material I’ve ever heard kid. Seriously, reach out to Joe Rogan. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@cocouncil777 🤣Kerr was a bench player, Rodman was washed and had imploded with the Spurs, while Harper in his prime with the Clippers was a below 20ppg scorer whose team was a first round exit, in case they were making it to the playoffs. And Jordan didn't team up with them, all of them came to Chicago to join the Bulls. Kerr and Harper in specific were brought in while MJ had retired from basketball for the first time and was playing baseball.
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Ooooweeee! Dam you broke it down exactly the way it went! Jordan never lobbied for players, he went to work with whatever he had! Not to mention, most of the players he named came in for the second 3 peat, so what’s his excuse for the first 3 peat?”
These videos have been killing me 😂 THE KING!!!!!
Another amazing video. The context are some important, but the media and gen-z openly choose to ignore it.
But, in fact... PM18 > Brady jeje.
I'm a Denver Broncos hard die fan.
Mad respect for you, my friend.
Man, these Skap Attack videos get me through the work day. Thanks for another great video breakdown.
My pleasure, and thank you for watching!
@@skap_attack you have the best youube channel of all times skap keep cooking lebron james until he learns his lesson that he will never be the goat of the nba
@@martinofrancois2749 thank you so much for the kind words and your continued support of the channel. As ALWAYS, I appreciate you 🙏❤️
@@skap_attack please continue roasting lebron james and never stop making these videos
@@martinofrancois2749 much like DiCaprio in Wolf of Wall Stree…”I’m not f***in leaving”!
I don't understand people act like Jordan won 15 titles in 15 years regardless of what they say that's how they act!!
Lebron is the most overrated player in nba history but he is also the only player who literally has paid media to make up fake narratives or just flat out lie for him
LeMedia lie machine.
Flat out facts.
If you were to pick players for an All Time Greatest team, Lebron wouldn't make the bench because he would be a liability when surrounded by greats. He takes way too many defensive plays off, turns the ball over a lot and his free throws are unreliable. He flops and blames too much and everything has to be about him. Sure, you may get a few more points picking him over someone else but the reasons mentioned would make me overlook him. The media built him and it's sad that younger people buy into that.
no kobe is by far
@@realbuckeye9716you never watched him play. You had pampers on throughout his entire prime. You probably still do with your smooth brain
LeBron's performance in the final three games of the 2016 Finals was one of the best performances ever. His level of effort and total dominance was astounding. That one series is how Michael Jordan played every game.
not true jordan wasnt on that level every game lmao
He might of had a great performance in the series, but to be the goat is to have the mental to push for that extra inch when the pressures on the most. Kyrie took the last clutch shot because Tyonn Lue looked at LeBron and knew he wasn't there mentally to take it (he said in an interview) whether from exhaustion or something else, he called the last play for Kyrie. You can't be called the Goat when you aren't even involved in the final play for the chip. And yes Jordan did pass the ball two times for the final shot (Pax, Kerr) those were option plays based on the defense not a iso play for Kyrie like in LeBron case. Bron fans just can't admit he's great but not goat material, and that's OK.
@@AadiLakha hes talking about the effort
Correction, Payton won with that '05-'06 heat team. Not '07 my Spurs won that year.
I’m gobbling this up.
I’m disappointed I just found your channel but I think I’ve already watched them all. I found myself laughing out at the Lebron brick off the side of the backboard. Good stuff 🤙
Please Keep Bringing the Truth! Oh don't forget to do the video of if Jordan had 10 future Hall of Fame teammates like LeBron had where you can compare certain players from Jordan era an what if he played with them. He didn't have half the help as LeBron, literally not even half.
That's because people look at a picture of Jordan playing against Jeff Hornacek and judge him based on his physique and skin colour and assume that Jeff Hornacek is not a good player.
@ Skap Attack, I really enjoy your videos. They always provide context to debunk some of the false narratives out there and they're ALWAYS hilarious. I was curious - where do you have Lebron ranked on your all time list?
Bruh you literally just annihilated EVERY argument that LeBron fans make🤣🤣
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someone had to do it and thank god... feel like I'm losing my sanity talking to modern NBA fans
@@jefftc14 There is a desperate narcissism in today's generation to elevate their own legends by devaluing the legends of old. In the days of yesteryear the new guys always gave credence to the last generation. MJ said he couldn't call himself the GOAT because he never had the chance to play against legends like Bill Russell. Mike Tyson always gave dues to Ali in boxing. In bowling Walter Ray Williams Jr. said Earl Anthony was better than him. Then you got modern stars like LeBron just saying "yeah I'm the greatest of all time."
@@luckifan401JJ Barea
@@paranoia_xo one finals bro
Thanks for doing this! Hopefully all the Call of Duty experts will eventually grow up and see these videos. Not sure if Nick Wright will ever grow up. He is probably fully grown by now:)
I was dying at the montage of him throwing the ball out of bounds OMG what a joke LOLL
All that you need to know is the 2011 Finals. Lebron was playing on the super team of his own creation. They were the favourites in the finals (barely), and Lebron was supposed to be the best player out of all the players on the floor. He felt so confident in winning that he thought he could mock his opponent's illness. And they lost. And Lebron was maybe the fifth or sixth best player in the series. That is not something that the Greatest Player of All Time can do in their career. That ends all debate for all time.
Does ONE series decide a player's 20 year career? So is Malone a terrible player based off his choking performance in the 97 NBA Finals? Steph Curry isn't great because he choked during the 2019 NBA Finals? Larry dropped 15 15 and 7 on an inefficient 46 TS. Closeout game 6 1996 NBA Finals, Mike shot 5/19 with 12 Freethrows. Let's not forget TRAGIC JOHNSON was a thing too.
Greats can choke at times and play poorly, it's about how they bounce back. Since then LeBron has won 4 titles and came back from a 3-1 defecit. LeBron averages 34, 10, and 8 in elimination games for his career. Let's not go too hard on James when he's great too.
@@kdfan35 Sure he can be great, but not the greatest of all time. Sure, you can play poorly, but not for a whole series and not when you disrespect the other team. There is a top spot, and Lebron does not get the top spot. And, after 2011, he never had a shot at it.
I really love these videos. This brother always keeps it 💯
I'm glad I was old enough to watch Jordan and Kobe play.
ME TOO!!
@@skap_attack Just found some Incriminating stats regarding the Kobe vs Lebron "debate"
Lebron has NOT won back to back or any title WITHOUT a 20ppg scorer
Wade 23PPG in the 4 years playing with lebron
Kyrie 22.3PPG in the 4 years playing with lebron
Davis 24.6PPG
Lebrons 3rd option Kevin love and Chris bosh both averaged 17PPG in the years playing with lebron
with Pau alone
3 straight NBA Finals appearances and he averaged 18.7PPG
CONCLUSION
Lebrons 2nd options both had greater output than Kobes 2nd option
and lebrons 3rd option had just about equal output compared to Kobes 2nd option
and if you compare lebrons 8 year run to the finals he averaged 26.5PPG and Kobe as the 2nd option in the 3peat years averaged 25.4PPG
So with slower pace of play Hand checking rules still in place Kobe as a 2nd option had similar output/impact as lebrons prime years going to 8 straight finals LOL
My ammo for you Kobe lebron breakdowns :)
@@JIX9ISLER1986 Kobe played with Shaq a 30 to 40 point scorer
@@cocouncil777 Shaq NEVER averaged 30ppg for ANY season
@@JIX9ISLER1986 he got enough of those games in playoffs by far more than anybody James played with
I just don't understand what's wrong with these people. Even if ya wanna challenge MJ as the G.O.A.T LeBron ain't the one to do it with. It's ok, almost no one gets close to that level. I don't get why they can't just be happy that he does what he does.
Dude your content is 🔥, keep it coming.
I will as long as you keep watching 🙏❤
@@skap_attack I will and thank you.
@@skap_attack just remember lbj and jordan are better than kobe
@@realbuckeye9716 Jordan is better than everyone. Kobe will always clear Lebron.
@@skap_attack not lebron I don’t see the logic why does everyone hate lebron
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Love it, always look forward to your new videos.
Jordan is the GOAT period , end of story. Thank you for always exposing LeClown unlike the lamestream media.
“When kyrie hit that shot, i was like, pshhh, that right there made me the greatest player of all time”
LeBronze James, 20something
😂😂😂😂😂
And he talked like kyrie didn’t save him 😂
@@johncambridge7181 kyrie didnt save him
So far LeBron went to the NBA Finals 10 times and won 4 of them Jordan would never be like that 😆😂🤣
If Jordan had to play the warriors 4 times and the Spurs 3 times what do you think his record would be?
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Better than lebron’s. He’s not losing in 07, he’s definitely no losing 2014 spurs team out their prime, he’s not losing 2017 because he would actually play defense on KD. And 2018 he’s not losing game 1 or scoring 2 points in OT, and he’s not losing game 3 at home when Steph and Klay went 11/27 combined
@@jaydot4956that's the side effect of creating superteam. Rushed chemistry and lack of bench depth.
@@judahmourneth3211 bro a 22 year old Jordan with no other all star is not beating the 07 Spurs, and you’re crapping on the 2014 Spurs but how “out of their prime” could they have been if they made it out the tough western conference two years in a row? I’m not sure Jordan is beating the 2014 Spurs with a hobbled pippen like Wade was hobbled, Jordan definitely ain’t beating the warriors in 2015 without his second and third best players, and he definitely ain’t beating the KD warriors by himself in 2018.
@@jaydot4956 lol so because Lebron couldn’t beat them jordan wouldn’t be able too.
Jordan was 22 facing the Celtics avg 43/5/6 50% while a 21 year old lebron faced an 07 spurs avg 22/7/6 35% 5TO. Those cavs teams were built on defense. They held the spurs under 85 3 out 4 games. Games 3 and 4 they lost by 3 and 1. Unlike lebron at 21, 22 year old MJ knew how to shoot.
In the early years (from '86 to '90), when Jordan was basically playing by himself and getting eliminated by Celtics and Pistons, here are his averages during those playoff series:
- 1986 ECR1 vs Celtics: 43.6 PPG (he set an all-time NBA record by scoring 63 points in a playoff game, against '86 Celtics!!!)
- 1987 ECR1 vs Celtics: 35.6 PPG
- 1988 ECR1 vs Cavaliers: 45.2 PPG
- 1988 ECR2 vs Pistons: 27.4 PPG
- 1989 ECR1 vs Cavaliers: 40 PPG
- 1989 ECSF vs Knicks: 35.6 PPG
- 1989 ECF vs Pistons: 29.6 PPG
- 1990 ECR1 vs Bucks: 36.7 PPG
- 1990 ECSF vs 76ers: 43 PPG
- 1990 ECF vs Pistons: 32.1 PPG
Obviously he did all he could, then once he got another all-star on his team (Pippen) and played a full season, he never again DIDN'T win the championship in 6 games or less. Unbelievable.
I'm going to go have to go with my instincts on this one - MICHAEL JORDAN, by a long shot! He won so many more awards in a much shorter time than LeBron. MJ played 15 seasons and LeBron is going to play his 21st. Congrats on LeBron for playing so long, however, MJ is a hundred times better.
Jordan only played 11 full seasons in Chicago. 95 he came back n played 17 games. 86 he broke his foot n played 18 games n most were minute restricted
And 2 in Washington
@@aarontrainor9918 only played one full season with wizards .. Full! N I purposely put full seasons in Chicago. He got hurt his first year in Washington
Amazing research. Keep going bro.
Thank you! And many thanks for tuning in. I appreciate you 🙏❤
"Jordan's competition wasn't as good as LeBron's" argument is so stupid, because when MJ played the game was far more physical and defenses were much greater, so even if Jordan played against slightly lesser competition (which is very debatable), it was still much harder to dominate the game then than it is now. In the 80s and 90s, average team score was ~ 90-95 points, today it's ~ 115-120 points, and Jordan still averaged OVER 30 PPG, and over 33 PPG in the playoffs and Finals series. Not to mention, he was simultaneously one of the best defenders in the world. If Jordan played today, against this "superior competition," he would undoubtedly average over 40 PPG, while simultaneously being one of the best defenders in the world. Let that sink in...
You should have mentioned the following INSANE Jordan stat: only time Jordan played with another all-star on his team (Pippen) was from 1991 to 1998, during that span Jordan played 26 playoff series, his record? 25-1, only loss coming in 1995, when he un-retired and returned to playing basketball with only a few games left in the season. In Finals, he averaged 33,5 PPG, winning, as we all know, 6 Finals MVPs and never even allowing a game 7. That's inhuman
These blind witnesses can't handle the truth! Keep the facts coming! Jordan is clearly the GOAT 🐐 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
LOVE IT! Great STATS!! MJ all the way!!!
Jordan´s North Carolina team trained with the greek national team when Nick Galis invited them. The greek´s learned a lot these days, but you could see a shift in defence in NC´s game.
Are you Greek??
@@SokinRidis yes
Love the vids man me and my homie appreciate you exposing the media
One small note is that it's deceptive to say Jordan only had Pippen. He also had Rodman, who was the greatest rebounder of all time. To exclude Rodman from the conversation about Jordan's offensive ability is a mistake.
people forget that a monster of mj played on guard position while he plays defense and offense, a nonstop effort. a forward like james is too fragile for the early 90s style. the pistons would break him thats for sure. 😅
self proclaimed goat 😂😂
I loved that breakdown ❤ Jordan =GOAT!
Made my day when I was notified that you uploaded a new video!
Thank you so much for saying so, and thank you so much for watching! I appreciate you 🙏❤
Comparing Jordan and LeBron is like comparing Kobe with Lamar Odom they are completely different in terms of position, skill, and accolades, and it is silly that people put LeBron and Michael in the same conversation. It’s not even close. LeBron is all hype and little substance.
little subtance is u fr rn?
Great video but one nitpick is that Scottie was an all star in 1990, so Jordan did have an all star then but tbf Scottie got a Migraine in against detroitbso Jordan was alone again. Doesn't affect the point though.
I really want to know what your opinion on Tom Brady and Arron rodgers is. I think we all do.
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Crazy how he tried to slander brons playmaking by showing fails from his over 20 year career and not the 2 hour long highlight reel that could have replaced it
This Channel will blow up!!!😮😮 too many facts that it sounds bias. Good job, bro!
My man, I appreciate you 🙏❤️. Many thanks for tuning in 💪
Never stop exposing LeBronze Skap! Would you be a dear and post your top 10 list, saw it in the video that got removed but I failed to save it.
Sir, I wish you could hear my applause at the end of these videos.
lol I appreciate you! 🙏❤
Wow dude. You killed it with this one. It's like, lebron cheerleaders say he faced tougher comp than Jordan because LeBron lost to the warriors 3 times.
Reason it looks that way is because unlike lebron, Jordans competition in the finals didn't win. That's why it looks like Jordan finals comp was easier.
Jordan is the goat
Lebron plays a character of the goat.
or bc lebron played kawhi, kd, duncan, and curry who are all top 5 all time in their respective positions
not knocking mj bc he played malone and stockton who are top 5 in their position but it literally stops there
@@luckifan401 Kawhi Top 5 All time at his position? 😂😂😂
@@luckifan401 Magic is not top 5 at his position?
@@erickrivas5533 easily 4🤷🏽♂️ bron bird kd kawhi pippen so yea
Netflix should get you to make a series to debunk the GOAT debate. MJ is the GOAT
Not only did Jordan face better teams during his championship years, but he also had to play in a much tougher NBA in which a degree of physical contact was allowed. This smash mouth environment gave birth to the Bad Boy Detroit Pistons who played a brand of hard knock street basketball that would make modern NBA players run for cover. The Pistons won back-to-back championships in 1989 and 1990 by literally beating up players on opposing teams.
Jordan had to deal with hard fouls and hand checking, both of which were removed from the game in 2004. Lebron's longevity is likely the result of his body not taking the physical beating 1990s players were accustomed to. It is much easier to score in Lebron's era than it was during Jordan's time. Also, the 3-point shot has become more important than working the paint and fighting for close range shots and lay ups. The center was more dominant in Jordan's era. Nowadays centers want to play like point guards leaving the basket unprotected a majority of the time.
By the way, the NBA removed hand checking because players were having a difficult time generating offense from the perimeter. Jordan was so good that without hand checking, he would have destroyed defenses and attacked the basket at will on every possession. Jordan was so good the Pistons had to create so-called "Jordan Rules." Not a single team has had to create a special game plan to defend against Lebron. Just play him like you would any other player. The media hacks and LBJ fanboys need to shut the hell up.
There is no debate. Michael Jordan is the GOAT. He is a true leader who made his teammates better. The Bulls were trash when he arrived in 1984. Before his rookie season was over attendance went up and eventually the team found themselves playing to record setting crowds. Jordan grinded his way to the top and carried the Bulls with him. Lebron lacked the leadership to make the Cavilers better, so he left and joined a super team. It's like buying shark cards and using cheat mods in GTA Online to get ahead.