Unlocking the samples within the DSI Tempest (and some file management tips)

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ต.ค. 2024
  • Digging in to the DSI Tempest I found out that it was not easy to access all the amazing samples that are within. Here are some tips and tricks that I found in regards to accessing and creating patches/sounds, beats and project management to easily access these gems.
    justinjoe.gumr...
    Patreon: / justinjoe
    Check out my Music & Socials
    Instagram: / _justin_joe
    Linktree: linktr.ee/just...
    Soundcloud: / justin_joe
    Bandcamp: justinjoe.band...
    Traxsource: www.traxsource...
    Gear I use and affiliate links:
    Octatrack MKII: bit.ly/3lOMikX
    Kenton USB MIDI Host: bit.ly/3iA3XLk
    OP-1: bit.ly/3scWFAm
    Blackbox: bit.ly/37He5f6
    Moog Minitaur: bit.ly/Minitaur-1
    Sequential Prophet Rev2
    Dave Smith Tempest
    Ableton Push 3
    E-mu Proteus 2000

ความคิดเห็น • 56

  • @slawekwojtaszek9893
    @slawekwojtaszek9893 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Just a quick tip as not many people know that and I believe it's not mentioned in the manual. When you hold shift and you scroll through the sound list, you will be scrolling through the whole group of sounds, so press shift, turn knob, and you will skip all noises, then one more knob turn and you go through all kicks, another and snares, and so on.
    That was a lot of work that you done, and this is very interesting approach, congratulations!

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s a good tip as well that I did not know, thank you!!

    • @ManoOne-Music-Production
      @ManoOne-Music-Production 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I did not know that thank you. I absolutely love my Tempest

    • @Genital.Wartzenegger
      @Genital.Wartzenegger 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Christ what a game changer lol.

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thx @@Genital.Wartzenegger

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For anyone trying this awesome tip out I wanted to clarify where this works... this is for when you are in the Osc 3 or 4 and are scanning the list of samples.
      This is an amazing and seriously useful tip!
      Thanks for sharing @slawekwojtaszek9893

  • @Genital.Wartzenegger
    @Genital.Wartzenegger 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So blessed to finally see some new tempest videos out. I’ve had mine for about a year now and it’s such a beast but there is no advanced content out there.
    Subbed and can’t wait to see more from you

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for saying so and I will definitely be putting out more Tempest videos. I have a few ideas already and you should start to see some here in the next week or so. Thanks for the sub and the purchase.

  • @shanesplanetshane3795
    @shanesplanetshane3795 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Neat vid. I've had mine for a few years and love it. She looks naked without the side panels. Thanks for the efforts!

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Haha. I thought it looked pretty clean without the side panel so I left them off last time. I had the unit open.
      Glad you’re enjoying the bids. I’m hoping to do some more more Tempest videos soon.

  • @chap2065
    @chap2065 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tip I just realized the other day:
    Play a beat, alter the beat parameters while playing till you like say the new kick drum at lower osc pitch (for example) YOU CAN SAVE THAT KD TO KICK DRUMS and it will sound exactly as it sounded with beat/parameter effects. Saves lots of sound design time.
    You took the wooden panels off? Looks good, thanks for the vid :-)

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s a great tip. Thanks for sharing!
      Yeah I took the sides off for a small repair and decided I like the way it looked too

  • @JonManness
    @JonManness 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The samples are where the Tempest shines. If people treat it more like a drum sampler and less like an analog drum machine then you'll really have fun with the Tempest! Plus, the aftertouch rolls can make you sound like the best gospel drummer.

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I could not have said it better myself. I’m gonna have to explore those aftertouch rolls you were talking about

    • @numbynumb
      @numbynumb 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      How do you access the aftertouch rolls? I dont see that option in mod paths.

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes I want to know this as well
      @@numbynumb

    • @tylerbourgoise9208
      @tylerbourgoise9208 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me three for aftertouch rolls

    • @UnbalancedBeats
      @UnbalancedBeats 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Im Curious in this point, would like to programming breakbeats with humanized flavour

  • @sebastiandior1315
    @sebastiandior1315 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Incredible stuff thank you!

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @OMA_Music_Official
    @OMA_Music_Official 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great tutorial, a ‘making a beat from scratch on the tempest’ type video would be a amazing resource, not many around atm.

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Great suggestion! Will make that happen

    • @OMA_Music_Official
      @OMA_Music_Official 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@_justin_joe Tons of Drums pack elevated my experience with it, thanks for putting all this effort into making it

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@OMA_Music_Official That makes me so happy to hear that! Going to do more vids on the Tempest as I learn more.

  • @KevinLopez-sr3fy
    @KevinLopez-sr3fy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks! Keep the videos coming please!

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      More to come!

  • @LeadingMotive
    @LeadingMotive 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for explaining! Just got a Tempest and had been wondering about the exact same things. The Tempest looks great without the wooden side cheeks BTW, very retro-vintage. I also decided to not use the cheeks. :)

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m so glad it was helpful. Appreciate the comment. I took the cheeks off one day to open the unit and thought, dang that’s looks good without them.

  • @petert7807
    @petert7807 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Having spent alot of time using Korgs Electribe 2, the tempest made perfect scense to me instantly. The Electribe 2 works in the same way. I just WISH the oscillator was a modulatible control. So you could go to your snares and send a random lfo to select differnt snares every hit!

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would be really cool

  • @Genital.Wartzenegger
    @Genital.Wartzenegger 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Purchasing the pack, I started doing this but renaming things takes too long so this is saving me a ton of time.
    I would love to see an fm tutorial I haven’t had much luck finding anything about it

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much for the message and thank you for purchasing the pack. It makes the time I put into it worth it :-) I’m not a huge FM expert, but I will look into this and possibly make a video in the future regarding it.

  • @Magiobus
    @Magiobus 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I bought the pack but there is no sysex file for kicks, only the whole project on the tonsofdrums :(

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I can send you a separate sysex. Email me justinjoejones@protonmail.com

  • @themonsheshe
    @themonsheshe 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im pretty new to electronic music and bought a tempest about 3 years ago. While fun, its been quite frustrating and probably isn't a great machine for starting on. As you mentioned, the tutorials are near non existent and the dude that sequential has doing some instruction comes at it as if I should already know about how it functions. In the process of learning how to save a beat/ project I managed to lose all the sample beats the machine came with, which for me, seemed to give me a starting point to create something. Ive attempted to try and follow instructions to re-establish these sample beats,( which may sound crazy to some, since they aren't really that great) but I haven't had any luck.
    Just wanted to say, that I really appreciate you posting this video. Ive learned more from watching this 13 minute clip than I have from any other tempest tutorial.
    Thank you.
    CG

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh wow, thanks for the amazing compliment. I plan on continuing to do Tempest tutorials this next year.
      In regards to your comment about losing the factory content you liked for a jumping off point, have you tried or considered reloading it to you Tempest via sysex?

    • @themonsheshe
      @themonsheshe 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@_justin_joe yes thanks, I actually I figured it out yesterday.

  • @rwesreal
    @rwesreal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for that info….very useful and definitely right, there is very little info on TH-cam about the ins and outs of this beast!
    Are you able to access hard drive storage say on a computer or portable through usb?

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Unfortunately you cannot address it like a hard drive via USB
      Only way to manage presets, kits etc is with SysEx messages via USB with a SysEx manager software

  • @substance90
    @substance90 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I honestly don't get the point of this exercise 🤔 switching the sample that's loaded in a DCO is super easy. You're wasting the machine's memory by saving init patches where only one oscillator is active.

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They write it definitely takes up a crap ton of memory, but for me I wanted to quickly access all those drums without having to go and switch the DCO every time I wanted all those drums to be available but my fingertips, so that was the point of the exercise

  • @ManoOne-Music-Production
    @ManoOne-Music-Production 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Subscribed 🎉

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much!

  • @Speaktrap
    @Speaktrap 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hefty price tag for a rompler.

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤣 If thats all it was.....

    • @adamwhite1934
      @adamwhite1934 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      12 analog oscillators say orherwise.

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adamwhite1934 100% Sir!

  • @PacificfisherGood-ko9xf
    @PacificfisherGood-ko9xf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes actually I figured it out today.

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Excellent glad to hear

  • @d.fritschi7767
    @d.fritschi7767 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's a bit funny, because that's really pretty much the opposite what most people say. The samples are considered the weakest part of the Tempest when it comes to sound quality. When you compare them to proper Samples they are below average at best. They are of course still useful when you use only very short parts as transient when you are designing sounds with the analogue oscillators, but most people avoid playing the plain samples of the Tempest because of the inferior Quality.
    It's really a shame how much better the still amazing Tempest could have been, if it would contain really high quality samples and proper samples of the VS-waves, which often do not loop properly like on the Prophet VS.

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting, I wonder if that’s really more dependent on what kind of genre you are producing. For Jackin House and Hip Hop they are pretty ace imo

    • @_justin_joe
      @_justin_joe  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Could you say more about the VS wave issues? This is the 1st I have heard of that

    • @d.fritschi7767
      @d.fritschi7767 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@_justin_joe Some of them don't loop properly. Either the loop-point isn't quite right or the sound compression of the internal chip doesn't play them right, so they don't sound like they should compared to the VS.

    • @d.fritschi7767
      @d.fritschi7767 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@_justin_joe For sure the samples are usable, but they don't sound as good as you would expect for a top-range product like the Tempest. The Tempest was overall judged by the sound of the presets which mostly used these samples for sounding sub standard and many disregarded it as bad sounding, without realizing that it's strengths are the synth-engine when you use the analogue part or in combination with the digital oscillators. Only then you really get the sounds which are up to classic analogdrumsynths like 808 with a by far more wide range of possible sounds, plus it can be played as a very capable 6-voice 4 oscillator analog-digital hybrid poly-synthesizer.