You can thank everyone including but not limited to the mothers and fathers of the firefighters, the workers who made to fire blanket, the smoke alarm manufacturer, the tow truck driver, the mayor and president Joe Biden.
This chief is really well-spoken. Smooth no 'uhm' and correct choices of words which any one can understand but still maintains that professional formal talk.
Well yeah that’s just standard communication ability for anyone holding a professional title, especially those who are required to speak to the general public.
Fire started in a 2019 Jaguar I-PACE that was charging when the fire occurred. A recall was issued for the I-PACE last year after a battery overheating issue caused fires.
Thank you for identifying the vehicle type. I suspected that it was a low production model because they seem to be suffering the most issues. Musk has been so successful with EV production that his competition has mistakenly thought that it would be easy for them to get into this business. They are learning the hard way that it's much more difficult than their legacy production methods, and they are tainting the industry with their flawed models.
Such a well spoken professional. I appreciate your knowledge and explaining this situation the way that you did. You're a breath of fresh air and I thank you.
All but the excessive usage of ‘abundance of caution’ phrases. There are better ways of communicating the reasonable actions. Maybe I am just sensitive to this phrase from all the media of the recent past. But Kodos to the fire recuse team for taking appropriate actions.
For your info, Bomba is preparing their personnel with EV courses. Not just regarding EV fire, but also EV rescue for road accident, house fire with involving EV inside, charging area with EV being charged, and many more. There are so many things to be learn for and to be taken into consideration. But most important thing is budgets from the Gov. As we all know, Bomba equipments are very expensive. So, department are taking into account for so many things. But whatever it is, our Bomba personnel are always ready to do our duty.
As someone that went thru a garage fire due to lightning….and my house was spared, I can say I feel these folks. While my garage has to be rebuilt, my house had no fire damage. But the soot went throughout my home. Took 6 months to clean walls, repaint whole house, and repair and re-sheetrock and paint garbage. ALL my furniture, clothes, electronics had to be removed and soot cleaned off. A fairly small fire can cause a lot of damage due to soot. Prayers for these folks. Thank God for our local FD…these guys are true heros!
Their house might of been spared, but the toxic fumes are there indefinitely, and they would be crazy to move back into it, especially if they have children.
I’ve seen the redo of a house fire in person, fortunately not mine. The smoke damage goes throughout the entire building, just as you experienced. Good you were not injured and I’m happy your house was spared for the most part.
Yep, those firefighters sound to be real professionals with thorough training about haz-mat. Am I the only one who finds it extremely funny hearing it and seeing on the video, that they put those blankets the wrong way concecutively on both of the cars and after much thought needed to turn them 90 degrees afterward xD
The smoke is very toxic so they all need to wear oxygen masks...until they drive them all down the road trailing smoke as shown. "Somewhat smoking." A miles long dispersion of visible poison gas that people are driving behind. Do not breathe it pedestrians, actually run if you see this parade of human failure coming your way. Run for your life. You do not want to breath any PPM of that poison gas. Any water runoff used to fight one of these fires is also an impossible to succeed hazmat containment situation. EV batteries burn at 4500F and are non extinguishable. Not being condescending but concerned, so don't project negative things that originate from you onto my comment as a defense for this "progress." Lastly, this industry could not sustain itself if only EV tech was used. It relies on the longevity, extended but instant refuel interval and serviceability of internal combustion engines from mining raw ore to final EV vehicle delivery to dealerships.
Good job guys, I respect firemen and how they put themself in harms way to help the public. I'm a 66 year old man now but I wouldn't be here if a fireman did,t carry me down a ladder from the 3rd floor of a burning house. Thank you.
@@joeblow1959 I am in complete agreement, exactly why I’ll never own one of those. Nor will I permit one of those vehicles to be parked up near my house if a visitor has one. My opinion, there is nothing green about an EV when looking at the whole picture.
Thank you for your services. Fire and police dept are such brave people. We couldn't get through all of these incidents without you! Love & Respect to all of you!
The video quality was perfect, the sound great. The Firemen performed a stellar job. I loved the narrator as well. He delivered a factual account without sensationalism.
Based solely on this TH-cam channel South Metro is a class act and their taxpayers and citizens should be extremely proud. Factual, thoughtful, prepared.
You’re a complete moron if you think this kind of thing is sustainable! What happens when there’s an electric car fire like this every week? Or every day? It will cost TAXPAYERS MILLIONS, all subsidized by the rest of us, while the ELECTRIC CAR OWNERS don’t have to pay anything extra! It’s complete INSANITY.
Thank you for your service. That is a tremendous public service message and video of an actual incident. We appreciate your expertise and detailed explanation. This kind of information should be readily accessible to the public domain. You are literally saving lives.
@@1personalt EV fires are more nasty and most ICE vehicle fires happen while they are in use. A large percentage of EV fires happen when they are sitting idle or being charged in a garage. They are a huge risk for a house fire, I can see home owner insurance going up for EV owners in the near future.
Thank You SMFR & PIO Eric. This was such an informative video. As a fire photographer who has recently covered a EV Fire, this provided me so much more detailed information. Amazing work and proactive approaches SMFR is taking
Fantastic public information video. Very well presented and explained. Well done SM Fire & Rescue. Special kudos' to the communications narrator, the message was clear, concise and meaningful.
Eric, you are an amazing PIO! I’m a Licensed Professional Engineer, practicing solely in Fire Protection for the last 18 + years. I wish more Departments were as Safety minded as SMFD.
@@TheRealScooterGuy The difference is with ICE the fire, reaching temperatures of 800F, will go out when you spritz it with a fire extinguisher. The fire from a EV, reaching 2500F, won't go out until it exhausts its fuel, and in that time will melt any surrounding structure. Furthermore, accusing someone of being in the employ of people you disagree with because they espouse an opinion you don't like is a very, very poor argument.
@@johnfetterYou have been misinformed. Compared to traditional ICE vehicles, EV fires are very rare. According to IEEE Spectrum, there are 1,530 ICE vehicle fires per 100,000 vehicles sold, and 25 EV fires per 100,000 vehicles sold. So on a per car basis, ICE vehicles catch fire SIXTY TIMES more frequently than EVs. And this is based on old data. Since that study was conducted, there have been two major developments. One is that LFP batteries, which do not ignite, have become popular due to their lower cost. By this time next year, the majority of EVs on the market will use LFP type batteries. Right now it's about 1/3rd of EVs on the market. Second, advances in manufacturing methods have greatly reduced the fire risk of non-LFP batteries. So by this time next year, EV fires will be more than 120 times less frequent than ICE vehicle fires.
Double thank you! This informational news post was so well done! Over and above your firefighting duty, you've massively outranked any public news source I've been researching on electric vehicle safety.
@@metallicafan416ok, why would you want to increase the fire risk by having an EV? Not only that, but you screw over the whole neighborhood in the event that your EV goes up in flames. You’re delusional and not smart because of that.
@@darrenvail8726 ICE car fires on the road destroy the roads and cause toxic runoff. This fire didn't destroy any roads. What's your point? You don't seem to have one. Did you see the Luton airport car park fire in the UK last year? Started by a diesel Range Rover, burned down almost the whole car park and destroyed virtually every car in there. Not one single EV in the whole pile.
Props to the FD. And videoing the experience as this is one of the better examples of start to finish being documented while the plan is being carried out. Great job and educational opportunities for all.
@captainfold until you realize other things like ebikes run on 18650 batteries just like my vape mod and you wonder why it's backplate is sticking out like a buldging smartphone
Very cool! Thanks for posting. When we first got our Ioniq5 (one of the first in Western Canada), we reached out to local Fire Departments asking if they were interested in inspecting it. It's amazing the amount of training and techniques you need to keep up with as first responders. Great job on this incident, and great presentation from the dept.
Have you heard of the two stories (one on east coast, other on west) of the battery replacement of the Ioniq? Battery costs more than the vehicle itself!
Yeah, been following the stories closely. Bboth Hyundai Canada and Hyundai USA stepped in with official responses to the BC one. It's unfortunate that only the original click-baity "OMG Ioniq5 replacement battery is $60k" gained traction, and none of the followup details on how misleading that was.
@@Alaorathit’s still expensive. And why would you want a battery powered vehicle in Canada, where it gets incredibly cold? Everyone knows battery performance goes down significantly in cold climates
In May 2023, Jaguar recalled all I-Pace electric vehicles (EVs) from 2019-2024 due to the risk of a battery fire. The recall is due to overheating battery packs, which could lead to a fire. Jaguar says it can perform an OTA software update to fix the issue, but only at Jaguar centers. Jaguar also tells owners to park their I-Pace EVs outdoors.
Yep, almost same situation with mustang Mach E. They put a stop sell on their EVs because connectors on the battery were overheating when acceleration "harsh". To this day on Reddit, people are still waiting for the dealership to fix their suv.
Do you remember when Ford F150's were lighting on fire back in 2000? I do. My Uncle and Cousin were sleep when the live wire of the cruise control lit the vehicles fuel line on fire. The Truck was under a roofed Carport. The entire house burned down that afternoon. My Cousin and her father made it out with no injuries, thank God.
So cool to see. I had no idea how you all handled these types of fires. I know with Li-Po fires for RC aircraft, we store and charge our batteries in Kevlar bags designed to contain and smother such a fire. It if it’s not in there, or is as big as a car. Then what? As letting it burn itself out isn’t always an option. Thank you for sharing this. So glad to see there is a proven and effective procedure in place.
@@edbighi6786 I almost sit on top of my Lipo batteries when charging. I had one 1300mAh 4s with a temper, that opened my eyes enough. The amount of (low grade, think hoverboards) lithium cells waiting to go bad is staggering, even more so the people who like to downplay the danger.
Your RC battery does not have software management and active cooling. This is like comparing a canoe to an ocean liner - sure they both float, but the similarity ends there.
I live in an apartment complex and the downstairs neighbors had an electric device that caught on fire. I wasn’t there when the fire happened. I got home a few hours after it was put out. The moment I walked through the door, I could smell it. It smelled so bad. I had to open all my windows and turn the heater off because it was blowing the smell into my apartment. I can’t imagine the smell that’s coming from that garage.
@@joeblow1959 If the device is a cheap product from China bought online, there is basically no one to sue. You could maybe sue the owner of the device, but most people don't have a lot of money or insurance to cover a lawsuit.
In my apartment, I have two garages below my one bedroom apartment. My apartment resides entirely on the second floor and sits on top of two single car garages. One garage is mine with my 2007 corolla in it. It opens inside to my staircase and main door entryway (about 3 x 4 feet in size) that leads to the living space. The other garage belongs to a random neighbor and can only be entered through his garage door. It is below my bedroom. They have no fire suppression or detection in these garages. Not only do I have to worry about this nonsense of his car catching fire and him not caring since he's not even in this single apartment townhouse building with me, but I've got to worry about this clown warming his car up with the garage door shut and killing me since the apartment complex refuses to buy me a carbon monoxide detector. My floor, his garage ceiling, is by no means sealed. To add insult to the injury, they provide electrical outlets in both our garages that he could use to charge his car if he owned an electric vehicle. I get to listen to him open and close the garage door. The renter changes every few months. Still an unknown to me if his outlet is on a separate electric meter or not. The apartment complex extends me the middle finger when I bring up these concerns. I may call the fire marshal in for an inspection if I ever fancy getting kicked out. Being that it's been -5 degrees F outside the last few days, if this joker leaves his garage door open because his car keys hit the opener button while it is in his pocket, because he has to take with him out of his car to get back in, my heat is then wasted as there is little to no insulation in my floor. Does the management care? No. Have I exchanged words with this guy? Yes. It's been an ongoing problem. The idling of the engine for long periods of time, letting his kids play with the door opener from inside his apartment across the street (opening and closing it repeatedly), the "student driver" sticker he has because he is an immigrant that has never drove before coming to America leads me to believe he doesn't realize he has to leave the door open when running the engine, the general disrespect he has for his neighbors... Well, I just read your comment and felt the need to rant. It is an irritating thing the way people are with these garages, and I didn't anticipate it when I picked this place to live. I didn't anticipate people being so apathetic because they don't reside in the same building.
And gasoline / diesel vehicles have never spontaneously burst into flames. Sarcasm of course, Dodge recently recalled over 300,000 HD trucks for just this issue, advising owners to park outside or away from parking structures. But in all seriousness, get rid of those lithium power tool batteries, all of them. Statistics aren't on our side with those poorly regulated, and poorly thermally controlled devices.
@hycoperosity5843 Which is probably the single reason for this video PSA. A fire department finally had a chance to use their new procedures and fire blanket. I'm not arguing against the need for updated fire fighting techniques, the world had over 100 years to perfect other vehicle and structural fires. What's impressive, and probably unnoticed, is how little of the car actually burned from recognition to video production. The time allowed to react to these fires shouldn't be overlooked. A moot point anyway, at least with many EVs, as the industry is transitioning significantly towards an LFP chemistry, a far more stable battery under extreme thermals.
Fully electric vehicles were deemed far safer than both hybrids and gas cars; they are far less likely to catch fire, with just 25.1 fires per 100,000 sales. That’s compared to 3,474 hybrid fires and 1,529 ICE fires per 100,000 sales respectively.
@@harveywallbanger2899You are making false assumptions. According to IEEE Spectrum, there are 1,530 ICE vehicle fires per 100,000 vehicles sold, and 25 EV fires per 100,000 vehicles sold. So on a population adjusted basis, ICE vehicles catch fire SIXTY TIMES more frequently than EVs. And this is based on old data. Since that study was conducted, there have been two major developments that greatly reduce the frequency of EV fires. One is that LFP batteries, which do not ignite, have become popular due to their lower cost. By this time next year, the majority of EVs on the market will use LFP type batteries. Right now it's about 1/3rd of EVs on the market. Second, advances in manufacturing methods have greatly reduced the fire risk of non-LFP batteries. I'm sure you haven't heard this, but in the US, more than 4,000 gas stations catch fire every year. About half these fires are caused by ICE vehicles catching fire. I haven't found a study showing how many homes have been burned down by the spontaneous combustion of ICE vehicles. But it does happen. And I have no doubt it's much more frequent than EV fires at home. There have been studies done that show about 400 people per year die in bed from the fumes of an ICE vehicle spontaneously starting up and idling in an attached garage.
@@MrCoffeekelly Um,I dunno maybe so you get all your wedding photos, years worth of memorabilia, and personal effects out, instead of just walking out with the clothes on your back. Insurance still cover the damage.
Pretty neat blanket. In Denmark we use big dumpsters filled with water, that the car(s) are being dumped into. As he says in this video, this leads to water-pollution that needs to be handled correctly. And i believe that most of these containers do handle about 25-30.000 litre of water. That's a huge amount of water to handle at the site of fire.... I like the idea of the blanket better. Will provide this video for our firedept. in the city.
If you just sprayed water on it you would still have polluted water, but it would be running into drains and sewers where it couldn’t be treated or contained.
Ever see the video of the completely submerged Tesla burning underwater at a boat ramp? Some genuis tried to use their Tesla to launch a boat. Instead, the boat dragged the Tesla into the lake. A short circuit later, the batteries caught fire, and the entire car burned underwater.
A truly eye opening and informative video of the dangers of lithiun ion batteries and their impact on the enviroment and hazards to persons involved. Very well handled by true professionals. Stay safe and God bless.
Be interesting to see 20-30 years from now when people have these cars 2nd hand to end of life and let them sit and decay and degrade. Major ecological issue. And China is making 1000s of these vehicles and just putting them in fields.
Excellent video as always, thank you. I predict that those blankets will be getting a lot more use in the coming years and will likely be made standard not just hazmat.
Right - and don't forget to get the bus and semi truck sized ones too - Gee, wonder how much those would weigh. And how many firefighters would be need seeing it took nearly 20 of them to handle this one small car inferno. Maybe each car will come equipped with a fire blanket - you know as you say "standard". And then we could legislate mandatory blanket covering for any EV parked in a garage. What a bright and carefree world we are leaving for future generations.
@@baddad18lol chill out. I have seen more firefighters stand around just because someone smelled "escaping gas" from a construction site( roadworks I think). Nothing left of that smell by the time we arrived, had to wait and call the gas company anyways.
A thoughtful plan implemented and executed to perfection! Well done, y'all! Other municipalities nationwide should take notice and learn how to do things right.
While the fire chief did give a great report, the part where he stated the the fire blanket was used the deprive the battery of oxygen was chemically in error. Lithium ion batteries that are burning produce their own oxygen during the chemical thermal reaction taking place. That is the primary reason it is so difficult to put them out.
True, but there is still benefit in preventing an unlimited, free supply of oxygen to the fire. There's a finite supply of oxygen in the chemical reaction of the battery. There's also benefit in smothering the toxic exhaust.
A blanket will only contain fumes if it can seal--which in most cases it probably can't do--otherwise it only helps with fumes by decreasing the rate they're evolving. Aside from the battery there's a lot of combustible materials in a car. Once autoignition temperatures are achieved--regardless of what initiated the fire--it makes sense to limit the oxygen getting to them. Whether or not any exogenous oxygen would directly affect the battery's combustion, oxidation of those other materials is exothermic, so air would indirectly exacerbate and prolong the burning of the battery.
About 15 years ago my neighbors house was burned to the ground due to a vehicle fire in their garage. The vehicle was a Ford F-150. They had problems with the brake pressure sensor leaking and catching the brake fluid on fire. Eventually Ford fix the design flaw, but I think GMC was recently having a similar problem with one of their vehicles.
@@KeenVanguardthe simple fact that they have to be replaced every three years should be enough to stay clear of EVs. It costs 40,000 to replace the battery when it's more more expensive than buying anew vehicle. We want save the planet while child labor are used mine the minerals to make vehicle. Oh but we're doing great for the environment right as china and india keep making coal plants. But we're doing something right? Yeah, you're doing something to make yourself feel better but that's all really it's not saving anything. These are the facts
@@aservant2287 none of what you said is accurate. Plenty of teslas on the road with 100k plus miles and non battery change. EVs are effectively 20 years old. ICEs are 100+ let's gives EVs another 80 years and see if they were a failure or not
@@KeenVanguard yeah that's why in 100° weather they just explode. Nothing to see here all is well. There really isn't child labor to build them. Ok you live in a fantasy world
Quite informative. Currently undertaking EV fire training with my department. Best wishes from Lynwood Park Rural Fire Brigade (volunteer) in Sydney, Australia 🇦🇺.
I am in Sydney. I have been following the issues around EVs since the start of last year. My concern is the ratio of resources to EV density in a suburb and also in a situation where multiple dispersed fires occur concurrently. My further concerns are around sites that structurally impede the disbursement of fire fighting equipment and prevent established fire fighting techniques from being carried out. For example in parking stations that combine restricted ingress, egress and working space. Or the bridge, or in a tunnel during peak traffic times. A further concern is around the safety of civilians who lack the safety clothing and breathing apparatus. Civilian vunrability would seem especially significant is high density parking where the fire has spread and smoke is trapped in a confined space, or where fleeing cars are trapped at exit pinch points or where fire fighting vehicles block traffic. Is there sufficient funding guaranteed for increased staffing, education and equipment?
@@trojanhman8136You will be relieved to know that not only are EV battery fires quite rare, but some important developments are underway that will make them much more rare. Firstly, the newer LFP type batteries do not ignite. Due to their lower cost, they have become widely adopted and within the next year they will represent the majority of EVs on the market, including almost all of the lower priced models. Secondly, improvements in manufacturing methods of non-LFP batteries have greatly reduced their risk of thermal runaway. Note that, to date, most thermal runaway events have been related to manufacturing defects. These have been analyzed and accounted for in new designs and new implementations. Note also that BYD, the fastest growing player in the EV industry, is known for their strong emphasis on fire safety in their batteries, which are made in-house.
This was an incredibly well produced video. Sorry to the homeowners whose house was destroyed and lost both cars. I’m curious are the blankets reusable?
Not more then burning cars with combustion engine and ore burning smartphones or other devices with Lithium Batteries but at the end, it’s rare over all
@@Wha73v3rcars that catch fire can be put out easily. Electric vehicles can not be put out easily in many cases. And by the way, EV’s use lithium ion batteries. Just like phones, laptops, and e scooters / bikes do
@@oahts5906you clearly do not know much about batteries… There are battery chemistries that don’t use Lithium like Sodium-Ion batteries. LFP and blade batteries are also highly resistant to fire and are very unlikely to catch fire unless they are exposed to extreme heat. Yes an EV fire is harder to put out, but an EV is less likely start burning in the first place. Modern EV’s are safe unlike this I-Pace which was released 8 years ago. The Volvo XC40 recharge has never had a single fatal accident and 2 reported fires in over 100.000 units.
@@Kurre. no one is talking about different types of batteries, why don’t you stay aware of what the conversation is? 90% of EV’s use what? Lithium ion batteries. There have been over 60 deaths related to fires in teslas alone. And any EV involved in an accident is at an elevated risk of what? Catching on fire. EV’s are not safe, certainly no safer than traditional internal combustion engines. Not only are they not safe, they are less reliable. And in the event that an EV does catch fire, the emitted fumes are highly toxic and spread considerably far, putting other people at risk. Internal combustion engines do not pose that risk.
@@jimjones-pz1tt I think he meant that dealing with a battery fire is not straightforward so it was interesting to see the effective approach used by the fire department in this case.
They should have to pay ridiculous rates for the threat they pose. Yes insurance companies are already starting to nix this nonsense. You want to virtue signal, pay the bill. Multimillion dollar policies on these vehicles just in case they take down an entire parking structure. Owner is liable for lawsuit for whatever insurance won't cover, etc. That's how insurance works, the more risk YOU are the more YOU pay. Insurance companies already refuse to insure homes within forest fire and flood prone areas.
If the US federal government , over two decades ago determined that fires can cause the collapse of 110 story skyscrapers how could any building code today allow charging stations in ANY building that people live or work in ?
I'm all for green energy but man it's annoying how much electricity is getting pushed as the face of green energy. All these battery powered cars are just gonna become heavier and strain already pinched resources even more considering how big of a battery they need. Not to mention when it comes time to replace em. EV cars are just a bandaid to keep the auto industry propped up. It doesn't do anything to address the issues caused by the overwhelming amount of cars, just shifts around the hazards.
@@HyenaBlank it’s the not in my backyard syndrome. It’s OK when the electricity ⚡️ is generated miles and miles away from your home. It’s gotta come from somewhere and most is coal, gas and nuclear.
Not saying you're wrong to fear this, but at the same time, most Americans have one or two vehicles in their garage with up to 40 gallons of very flammable fuel. Both are very legitimate safety concerns and should be addressed accordingly!
I think the concern is legitimate. Internal combustion engine vehicles do not suddenly self-immolate because they don't like the way they're being charged. Unfortunately, it's not just electric cars, it's electric bicycles and for a while it was those electric hoverboards and I think it's going to happen more and more with these batteries. My two electric bicycles are sitting outside and I charge them outside for this specific reason. Would you want your family asleep at 4 AM when your electric car decides to burn down your house? @@mattkroening7964
@@mattkroening7964 40 gallons of gasoline do not spontaneous combust.... and then spontaneously combust again and again and again and require police and fire escort to its final resting place.
@@AkioWasRight that's right, gasoline is most dangerous in its gaseous form. If there's a leak from the top of your tank overnight, any spark could cause an explosion. That said, lithium ion batteries are much more difficult to manage, even if they don't explode in the manner that gasoline does. It's best for us to move away from these types of batteries towards more stable chemistries (i.e. solid state batteries), which are coming soon!
@@bob0in0 Stop circulating these bogus studies. There isn't any reliable data on EV fires because of the fleet age differences. There were 611,000 EVs in Sweden, but MSB collected data over a 4 year timespan, between 2018 and 2022. The number of new registered EVs in Sweden over that timespan had increased exponentially each year, meaning more new EVs make up the number of registrations. The average age of ICE registrations in Sweden is much, MUCH older. In fact, over 10 years old. Nevermind average age, there were hardly any EVs 10+ years ago, probably not even 1,000 new registrations a year. This makes any comparison faulty, as age and condition plays a massive role in fires. A vehicle that is older and weathered is far more likely to catch fire than a brand new vehicle. MSB's assessment is just dishonest and based on a false comparison. It's like comparing the heart attack rate of men under the age of 90 to women under the age of 20 and concluding men have weaker hearts.
THANK YOU, SMFD, for taking the time to bring awareness to this danger! And for taking the time to become informed and very prepared to handle this type of fire. You give great information for both EV owners, consumers and other fellow fire first responders to know what to do if one of these fires occurs to keep EVERYONE safe until the fire is contained. This video needs to be shared far and wide so that we all know the hazards and the prevention measures of the technology that we use everyday! These guys are true heroes!
Agree. This video should be mandatory education for all N. American (and wider) fire departments. But it also requires the willingness to spend the money by the 'bean counters' - i.e. the city/town/municipality powers that be.
@@kmooney1954 It's also missing a super important piece of information, that water and lithium react exothermically, which means putting water on a battery fire is not only ineffective, it actively worsens the fire.
Tell me again how EV's are going to save the planet. I am retired FD and I will never own one of these things. One neighboring department used 35,000 gallons of water to try and put a Nissan Leaf.
These video need to be viewed by Congress and all the fools who are demanding lower use of fossil fuels. On a whole other take, you firefighters did an awesome job! Many blessings to you!
When electric cars first started coming out I remember my department had a car catch fire on the highway. They got it out and as the tow truck was gonna pull away it reignited so they then had to redo everything as the tow truck got the car as far away from his cab as he could. They got that out and the tow company was bale to get it to their yard (wasn't far down the road). As the FD was coming back into the station it reignited and they went back out and just had the truck on standby at the tow yard all night.
They should do a video like this for clothes dryers. There are approximately 15000 structure fires in the United States every year caused by clothes dryers and the worst case scenarios are when people don't make it out. Get your dryer serviced regularly by an appliance repair technician. Lint accumulates inside the cabinet where you cannot see and needs to be cleaned out regularly. Never start your dryer and go shopping and never start your dryer and go to bed. Make sure you have a working smoke detector near your dryer.
My god man, don’t mention other real life examples that happen every day! We want to hear about rare and volatile EV fires that show our trusty petrol powered cars are immune from fire and explosions.
It’s a Jaguar I-Pace for those who wanted to know the manufacturer.
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Battery development was LG Chemical. They have 8 factories in South Korea.
Thanks - was trying to see what it was I thought it may have been a mach e but I don’t know either model well enough
Aw man! As if Jaguar needed any more problems..
EV in the title is all I needed to know 🤣
Thanks! Came to the comments for this info.
Ah, as expected of Jaguar reputation.
I'm glad that this story has been covered accurately and made public.
They left out the nationwide total internal combustion garage fires.
@@cmertonwhy is that important?
Because it shows adjusted for population of vehicles, EVs cause 50% more fires. And require about 2000% more water to put out.
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Radioactive waste recycled waist to wealth. How they learned to love the bomb
all the thanks in the world to the firefighters, you guys are literal life savers
Thanks to the farmers who feed these guys so they can function.
You can thank everyone including but not limited to the mothers and fathers of the firefighters, the workers who made to fire blanket, the smoke alarm manufacturer, the tow truck driver, the mayor and president Joe Biden.
@@grd1184 I like to thank Joe Biden for having children in his best interest, and doing so by passing the sniff test.
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This chief is really well-spoken. Smooth no 'uhm' and correct choices of words which any one can understand but still maintains that professional formal talk.
I was thinking the same thing. He was on point with everything too
Report to the WH spokesperson office tomorrow please
Well yeah that’s just standard communication ability for anyone holding a professional title, especially those who are required to speak to the general public.
It's a Public Informations Officer (PIO) so it's basically his job. He isn't a chief
he is not a chief
Fire started in a 2019 Jaguar I-PACE that was charging when the fire occurred. A recall was issued for the I-PACE last year after a battery overheating issue caused fires.
These issues are caused by manufacturing defects. The defects have been analyzed and accounted for in new designs and implementations.
Thank you for identifying the vehicle type. I suspected that it was a low production model because they seem to be suffering the most issues. Musk has been so successful with EV production that his competition has mistakenly thought that it would be easy for them to get into this business. They are learning the hard way that it's much more difficult than their legacy production methods, and they are tainting the industry with their flawed models.
Any rechargeable lithium ion battery has the potential to OVERHEAT and catch fire.
All I can think of is Jeremy Clarkson saying “Jaaaag”
@@davidmenasco5743yeah, the DEFECT is any electric vehicle.
This fire officer has nailed it, he has demonstrated a textbook fire management procedure
outdated textbook. Just sayin.
@@crisnmaryfam7344 It did well despite it being dated
Such a well spoken professional. I appreciate your knowledge and explaining this situation the way that you did. You're a breath of fresh air and I thank you.
Exactly, that department looks well trained!
@@relikvija Can't understand why so many people don't like EVs...
All but the excessive usage of ‘abundance of caution’ phrases. There are better ways of communicating the reasonable actions. Maybe I am just sensitive to this phrase from all the media of the recent past.
But Kodos to the fire recuse team for taking appropriate actions.
@@crforfreedom7407😂😂😂
Malaysian firefighter here! Great documentary on how you guys dealt with EV fire. Thank you South Metro, our American brothers!
EV fires are still rare in MY. But would like to know how prepared Bomba is for it?
For your info, Bomba is preparing their personnel with EV courses. Not just regarding EV fire, but also EV rescue for road accident, house fire with involving EV inside, charging area with EV being charged, and many more. There are so many things to be learn for and to be taken into consideration. But most important thing is budgets from the Gov. As we all know, Bomba equipments are very expensive. So, department are taking into account for so many things. But whatever it is, our Bomba personnel are always ready to do our duty.
As someone that went thru a garage fire due to lightning….and my house was spared, I can say I feel these folks. While my garage has to be rebuilt, my house had no fire damage. But the soot went throughout my home. Took 6 months to clean walls, repaint whole house, and repair and re-sheetrock and paint garbage. ALL my furniture, clothes, electronics had to be removed and soot cleaned off. A fairly small fire can cause a lot of damage due to soot. Prayers for these folks.
Thank God for our local FD…these guys are true heros!
Their house might of been spared, but the toxic fumes are there indefinitely, and they would be crazy to move back into it, especially if they have children.
@@truthseeker444 Yep we were out of our house for 6 months while they cleaned / mitigated and rebuilt.
No disrespect but it's a known thing these batteries do this.anyone who buys an e.v is asking for it.
They are indeed 👍
I’ve seen the redo of a house fire in person, fortunately not mine. The smoke damage goes throughout the entire building, just as you experienced. Good you were not injured and I’m happy your house was spared for the most part.
The Fire Chief is very articulate! Good job!
He was articulate at passing incorrect info; see my comments above.
@4:46 "Communications Manager"
@@onerider808 you are 100% right , this man is as bout as naive as he is arrogant & I’ll informed as I’ve ever seen
@@onerider808 I can't find your comment. Why is he wrong?
Great report on this incident. I appreciate how professional this gentleman is and how through their training was to be able to respond appropriately.
Yea definitely love the professionalism and you should do mire
wish we got more info on the root cause of the jaguar I-pace burning…
What an empty, bland comment....ugh god...
Yep, those firefighters sound to be real professionals with thorough training about haz-mat. Am I the only one who finds it extremely funny hearing it and seeing on the video, that they put those blankets the wrong way concecutively on both of the cars and after much thought needed to turn them 90 degrees afterward xD
I am thankful for firefighters. Thank you for what you do, your knowledge, and your service!
Don't forget to thank hazmat workers and police
Love the professionalism here. Very impressed with this department, solving new problems and keeping their community safer.
Seems like overkill. The whole process. If there was a fire fighting airplane above the "procession" it would not be that much more ridiculous.
@@firstlast9292 Overkill? Those things keep burning under water.
@@firstlast9292 Quit being condenscending
Thankfully, no one was hurt. It could have been so much worse.
The smoke is very toxic so they all need to wear oxygen masks...until they drive them all down the road trailing smoke as shown. "Somewhat smoking." A miles long dispersion of visible poison gas that people are driving behind. Do not breathe it pedestrians, actually run if you see this parade of human failure coming your way. Run for your life. You do not want to breath any PPM of that poison gas.
Any water runoff used to fight one of these fires is also an impossible to succeed hazmat containment situation. EV batteries burn at 4500F and are non extinguishable. Not being condescending but concerned, so don't project negative things that originate from you onto my comment as a defense for this "progress."
Lastly, this industry could not sustain itself if only EV tech was used. It relies on the longevity, extended but instant refuel interval and serviceability of internal combustion engines from mining raw ore to final EV vehicle delivery to dealerships.
Good job guys, I respect firemen and how they put themself in harms way to help the public. I'm a 66 year old man now but I wouldn't be here if a fireman did,t carry me down a ladder from the 3rd floor of a burning house. Thank you.
I mean its their job, that’s what they get paid for.
True it is there job, but people like you are what is wrong with this world no respect. @@Hernsama
@@HernsamaGratitude helps the firefighters, though.
It is amazing the FD was able to save the house given the source of ignition. Great job fireman!
The house was likely filled with highly toxic smoke. Not sure if it's safe to live in now.
@@markbunn8576understandable but that still beats a total tear down and rebuild.
@@joeblow1959 I am in complete agreement, exactly why I’ll never own one of those. Nor will I permit one of those vehicles to be parked up near my house if a visitor has one. My opinion, there is nothing green about an EV when looking at the whole picture.
Same
Odds are that house was owned by a liberal Democrat. They need to learn the lesson of their stupid choices.
Thank you for your services. Fire and police dept are such brave people. We couldn't get through all of these incidents without you! Love & Respect to all of you!
The video quality was perfect, the sound great.
The Firemen performed a stellar job. I loved the narrator as well. He delivered
a factual account without sensationalism.
Based solely on this TH-cam channel South Metro is a class act and their taxpayers and citizens should be extremely proud. Factual, thoughtful, prepared.
Looks like the hood can afford it.😉
You’re a complete moron if you think this kind of thing is sustainable!
What happens when there’s an electric car fire like this every week? Or every day?
It will cost TAXPAYERS MILLIONS, all subsidized by the rest of us, while the ELECTRIC CAR OWNERS don’t have to pay anything extra!
It’s complete INSANITY.
Go clean your nose, there is a brown stain on it.
Thank you for your service. That is a tremendous public service message and video of an actual incident. We appreciate your expertise and detailed explanation. This kind of information should be readily accessible to the public domain. You are literally saving lives.
Man, this video is so informative, great job on the communications manager side to touch on almost every apsects of it!
Insurance actuaries are paying very close attention to this.
Yes indeed
Yes.. Gas cars catch fire about 40-50 times more often but the EV fires can be more nasty.
@@1personalt not on a per car rate though. How many more gas cars exist. Think a sec. In the video they used an "electrical vehicle blanket" lmao
@@DG-kr8pt no gas cars catch fire at a rate of 50-60 times as much. 35 per 100,000 for ev and 1500 for gas.
@@1personalt
EV fires are more nasty and most ICE vehicle fires happen while they are in use.
A large percentage of EV fires happen when they are sitting idle or being charged in a garage. They are a huge risk for a house fire, I can see home owner insurance going up for EV owners in the near future.
Respect for cops and firefighters for saving lives and helping people.
They do not get paid enough for their hard work and sacrifice.
EVs are a boondoggle, how much taxpayer money was wasted on this one fire?
they get paid exactly what their union negotiates ...
@@unregisteredcoward It isn’t enough!
Respect ya the 3 days a week ylu work you put a blanket on a car.
Sir you are one of the most well spoken people on TH-cam! Thanks for the explanation!
very smart people doing very important work for the safety of everyone. thanks guys, have a nice safe day.
Thank You SMFR & PIO Eric. This was such an informative video. As a fire photographer who has recently covered a EV Fire, this provided me so much more detailed information. Amazing work and proactive approaches SMFR is taking
EV goes fire fire fire! FJB! AND EV'S!
The amount of chemicals released during one of these li fires is ridiculous
@@beargillium2369 it's very very toxic...
AN EV fire not A 😢
@@beargillium2369oh no, their carbon footprint is tiny. BAAAAWAAAAAHAHAHAAAAA! I’m being sarcastic.
Fantastic public information video. Very well presented and explained. Well done SM Fire & Rescue. Special kudos' to the communications narrator, the message was clear, concise and meaningful.
One shortcoming is it was full of incorrect information.
It would be nice to know what company manufactured those divices that couse a fire.
I agree so much
Everyone praises the media when it reinforces their biases lol
Eric, you are an amazing PIO! I’m a Licensed Professional Engineer, practicing solely in Fire Protection for the last 18 + years. I wish more Departments were as Safety minded as SMFD.
EV,S ARE TICKING FIRE BOMB!
Green new deal working perfectly.
@@johnfetter-- Do you work for a company that profits from oil or gasoline? The same can be said for those products.
@@TheRealScooterGuy The difference is with ICE the fire, reaching temperatures of 800F, will go out when you spritz it with a fire extinguisher. The fire from a EV, reaching 2500F, won't go out until it exhausts its fuel, and in that time will melt any surrounding structure.
Furthermore, accusing someone of being in the employ of people you disagree with because they espouse an opinion you don't like is a very, very poor argument.
@@johnfetterYou have been misinformed. Compared to traditional ICE vehicles, EV fires are very rare.
According to IEEE Spectrum, there are 1,530 ICE vehicle fires per 100,000 vehicles sold, and 25 EV fires per 100,000 vehicles sold.
So on a per car basis, ICE vehicles catch fire SIXTY TIMES more frequently than EVs.
And this is based on old data. Since that study was conducted, there have been two major developments.
One is that LFP batteries, which do not ignite, have become popular due to their lower cost. By this time next year, the majority of EVs on the market will use LFP type batteries. Right now it's about 1/3rd of EVs on the market.
Second, advances in manufacturing methods have greatly reduced the fire risk of non-LFP batteries.
So by this time next year, EV fires will be more than 120 times less frequent than ICE vehicle fires.
Double thank you! This informational news post was so well done! Over and above your firefighting duty, you've massively outranked any public news source I've been researching on electric vehicle safety.
Electrical fires are truly nasty.
It is actually a chemical fire
arent all fires chemial @@virgilhilts3924
There is a HUGE difference between an electrical fire and a lithium ion battery fire.
Smoke is even worse...
No, LiPo battery fires are.
I don’t even need to say it. This whole situation speaks for itself
75% of house fires start in the kitchen, do you cook?
@@metallicafan416ok, why would you want to increase the fire risk by having an EV? Not only that, but you screw over the whole neighborhood in the event that your EV goes up in flames. You’re delusional and not smart because of that.
@@metallicafan416 can you put an EV fire out with water? Does the kitchen fire destroy the roads and cause toxic run off? I could go on if you like?
@@darrenvail8726 ICE car fires on the road destroy the roads and cause toxic runoff. This fire didn't destroy any roads. What's your point? You don't seem to have one. Did you see the Luton airport car park fire in the UK last year? Started by a diesel Range Rover, burned down almost the whole car park and destroyed virtually every car in there. Not one single EV in the whole pile.
Props to the FD. And videoing the experience as this is one of the better examples of start to finish being documented while the plan is being carried out. Great job and educational opportunities for all.
Nothing like having an inextinguishable explosive sitting in your home.
Yes of course, ICE's can never burn
@@samuelfriday8447not like that. Learn some facts before sayin 💩
It is far less likely an EV catches fire (20 times) but they are in more difficult to deal with.
@captainfold until you realize other things like ebikes run on 18650 batteries just like my vape mod and you wonder why it's backplate is sticking out like a buldging smartphone
They extinguished it in the video. You also used a similar device to post your comment.
You did a great job presenting the information. Clear, concise and to the point. Very enlightening.
I’m just glad the batteries didn’t explode while they were all milling around the EV unsmartly.
Very cool! Thanks for posting.
When we first got our Ioniq5 (one of the first in Western Canada), we reached out to local Fire Departments asking if they were interested in inspecting it.
It's amazing the amount of training and techniques you need to keep up with as first responders. Great job on this incident, and great presentation from the dept.
Have you heard of the two stories (one on east coast, other on west) of the battery replacement of the Ioniq? Battery costs more than the vehicle itself!
Yeah, been following the stories closely. Bboth Hyundai Canada and Hyundai USA stepped in with official responses to the BC one. It's unfortunate that only the original click-baity "OMG Ioniq5 replacement battery is $60k" gained traction, and none of the followup details on how misleading that was.
link for the story?
@@Alaorathit’s still expensive. And why would you want a battery powered vehicle in Canada, where it gets incredibly cold? Everyone knows battery performance goes down significantly in cold climates
🙄🤡 asking the FD to inspect your car as if they were engineers 🤡🙄
Respect to these fire fighters for risking their lives in helping others!
Ev's are for libs that like their cheeks clapped.
😂 respect yes ! But most people would do this job in a heartbeat that’s why there thousands that apply for each position !
Didn't see a lot of risk in this one. Also, Q: How many fireman does it take to cover a car with a blanket? A: All of them, LOL
@@DannerPlace there Chief answer said 4 of them for a 63ibs placket ! A lease there doing something I’ve seen other Gov. Workers a lot worse !
Respect to anyone not buying one of these to put others in danger
Adapt and overcome, thank you for your service!
In May 2023, Jaguar recalled all I-Pace electric vehicles (EVs) from 2019-2024 due to the risk of a battery fire.
The recall is due to overheating battery packs, which could lead to a fire. Jaguar says it can perform an OTA software update to fix the issue, but only at Jaguar centers.
Jaguar also tells owners to park their I-Pace EVs outdoors.
The 2019 didn't have OTA, unfortunately.
to park their I-Pace EVs outdoors.---!?! haha crazy
@@izom yes, but the update is about one year old. Did they have the update?
Yep, almost same situation with mustang Mach E. They put a stop sell on their EVs because connectors on the battery were overheating when acceleration "harsh". To this day on Reddit, people are still waiting for the dealership to fix their suv.
Was this a mustang Mach e or jaguar? Can’t really tell it’s all charred up 😂
Excellent job saving the house and the protocol with the battery issue.
That house is going to smell like a burning plastic for years.
@markasread4349 Oh so do you lock your phone and laptops in a metal box when you go to sleep at night?
That blanket seems like a very good innovation to safely deal with this new class of fire.
Good job of explaining the rationale for what you're trying to do.
I'd hate to think how much this whole episode cost, considering how many people were involved just to put out one car fire!
That town didn't seem to be very busy, and they looked like they were all excited about responding to that call.
More tax dollars.
They get paid whether they go out to a fire or not! That's what they do ... put out fires.
"The number one cause of house fires is unattended cooking." obviously you see what you want to be seen.
@@mr.wizeguy8995 I'll pay that. EV's catching fire are the flavour of the month! Greetings from Australia.
big shout out and huge respect to the rescue team for protecting us! Please keep the rescue team members safe at all the costs!
Do you remember when Ford F150's were lighting on fire back in 2000? I do. My Uncle and Cousin were sleep when the live wire of the cruise control lit the vehicles fuel line on fire. The Truck was under a roofed Carport. The entire house burned down that afternoon. My Cousin and her father made it out with no injuries, thank God.
Always remember to tuck your EV in at night so that both of you can sleep soundly.
Or take a long dirt nap
@@Mattisttam😂
Just don’t get one
@@TG-ke9veHow about you operate said EV responsibly?
@@Optimaloptimus yeah, by not owning one.
So cool to see. I had no idea how you all handled these types of fires. I know with Li-Po fires for RC aircraft, we store and charge our batteries in Kevlar bags designed to contain and smother such a fire. It if it’s not in there, or is as big as a car. Then what? As letting it burn itself out isn’t always an option. Thank you for sharing this. So glad to see there is a proven and effective procedure in place.
Who knew...Kevlar bags! Thanks for posting.
The difference with we RC people is that we tend to never charge unattended. EVs often charged unattended. A massive problem
@@edbighi6786 I almost sit on top of my Lipo batteries when charging. I had one 1300mAh 4s with a temper, that opened my eyes enough. The amount of (low grade, think hoverboards) lithium cells waiting to go bad is staggering, even more so the people who like to downplay the danger.
Your RC battery does not have software management and active cooling. This is like comparing a canoe to an ocean liner - sure they both float, but the similarity ends there.
I live in an apartment complex and the downstairs neighbors had an electric device that caught on fire. I wasn’t there when the fire happened. I got home a few hours after it was put out. The moment I walked through the door, I could smell it. It smelled so bad. I had to open all my windows and turn the heater off because it was blowing the smell into my apartment. I can’t imagine the smell that’s coming from that garage.
@@joeblow1959 They said electric device not vehicle.
@@joeblow1959 If the device is a cheap product from China bought online, there is basically no one to sue. You could maybe sue the owner of the device, but most people don't have a lot of money or insurance to cover a lawsuit.
In my apartment, I have two garages below my one bedroom apartment. My apartment resides entirely on the second floor and sits on top of two single car garages. One garage is mine with my 2007 corolla in it. It opens inside to my staircase and main door entryway (about 3 x 4 feet in size) that leads to the living space. The other garage belongs to a random neighbor and can only be entered through his garage door. It is below my bedroom. They have no fire suppression or detection in these garages. Not only do I have to worry about this nonsense of his car catching fire and him not caring since he's not even in this single apartment townhouse building with me, but I've got to worry about this clown warming his car up with the garage door shut and killing me since the apartment complex refuses to buy me a carbon monoxide detector. My floor, his garage ceiling, is by no means sealed.
To add insult to the injury, they provide electrical outlets in both our garages that he could use to charge his car if he owned an electric vehicle. I get to listen to him open and close the garage door. The renter changes every few months. Still an unknown to me if his outlet is on a separate electric meter or not.
The apartment complex extends me the middle finger when I bring up these concerns. I may call the fire marshal in for an inspection if I ever fancy getting kicked out.
Being that it's been -5 degrees F outside the last few days, if this joker leaves his garage door open because his car keys hit the opener button while it is in his pocket, because he has to take with him out of his car to get back in, my heat is then wasted as there is little to no insulation in my floor.
Does the management care? No. Have I exchanged words with this guy? Yes. It's been an ongoing problem. The idling of the engine for long periods of time, letting his kids play with the door opener from inside his apartment across the street (opening and closing it repeatedly), the "student driver" sticker he has because he is an immigrant that has never drove before coming to America leads me to believe he doesn't realize he has to leave the door open when running the engine, the general disrespect he has for his neighbors...
Well, I just read your comment and felt the need to rant. It is an irritating thing the way people are with these garages, and I didn't anticipate it when I picked this place to live. I didn't anticipate people being so apathetic because they don't reside in the same building.
@@paulsaulpaul Sounds like you should find a new apartment.
@@paulsaulpaul I have a possible solution for you. Rent this garage for yourself once the current tenant's lease is over
Home Insurance companies are now going to be asking the question, "Do you own an Electric Vehicle?" when we're searching for quotes. 😂
This is probably one of the best and most thorough report on TH-cam. Great information! Learned a lot and won't be buying an EV anytime...ever LOL
Wait for the flying car
But they help the environment 😂
And gasoline / diesel vehicles have never spontaneously burst into flames. Sarcasm of course, Dodge recently recalled over 300,000 HD trucks for just this issue, advising owners to park outside or away from parking structures.
But in all seriousness, get rid of those lithium power tool batteries, all of them. Statistics aren't on our side with those poorly regulated, and poorly thermally controlled devices.
@hycoperosity5843
Which is probably the single reason for this video PSA. A fire department finally had a chance to use their new procedures and fire blanket. I'm not arguing against the need for updated fire fighting techniques, the world had over 100 years to perfect other vehicle and structural fires.
What's impressive, and probably unnoticed, is how little of the car actually burned from recognition to video production. The time allowed to react to these fires shouldn't be overlooked.
A moot point anyway, at least with many EVs, as the industry is transitioning significantly towards an LFP chemistry, a far more stable battery under extreme thermals.
Fully electric vehicles were deemed far safer than both hybrids and gas cars; they are far less likely to catch fire, with just 25.1 fires per 100,000 sales. That’s compared to 3,474 hybrid fires and 1,529 ICE fires per 100,000 sales respectively.
Well said Eric! Great job by all. Once again, South Metro is proving they are at the forefront of the latest and greatest in Fire tactics and safety.
House fires used to be very rare. Now with these ticking time bombs they are more common. Electric cars are a very bad idea period.
EV'S are at the forefront of spontaneous combustion in your garage while you sleep!
@@harveywallbanger2899You are making false assumptions.
According to IEEE Spectrum, there are 1,530 ICE vehicle fires per 100,000 vehicles sold, and 25 EV fires per 100,000 vehicles sold.
So on a population adjusted basis, ICE vehicles catch fire SIXTY TIMES more frequently than EVs.
And this is based on old data. Since that study was conducted, there have been two major developments that greatly reduce the frequency of EV fires.
One is that LFP batteries, which do not ignite, have become popular due to their lower cost. By this time next year, the majority of EVs on the market will use LFP type batteries. Right now it's about 1/3rd of EVs on the market.
Second, advances in manufacturing methods have greatly reduced the fire risk of non-LFP batteries.
I'm sure you haven't heard this, but in the US, more than 4,000 gas stations catch fire every year. About half these fires are caused by ICE vehicles catching fire.
I haven't found a study showing how many homes have been burned down by the spontaneous combustion of ICE vehicles. But it does happen. And I have no doubt it's much more frequent than EV fires at home.
There have been studies done that show about 400 people per year die in bed from the fumes of an ICE vehicle spontaneously starting up and idling in an attached garage.
Damn lucky they didn't lose the house as well, well done to the crews.
lucky? why would you want a fire damaged home and a fraction of the insurance check?
@@MrCoffeekelly Um,I dunno maybe so you get all your wedding photos, years worth of memorabilia, and personal effects out, instead of just walking out with the clothes on your back. Insurance still cover the damage.
@@silverdale3207 lol.
@@silverdale3207 I guess if you're a millionaire or never had to work hard. I'd take a new house over a fire damaged one and some pictures.
Bet there’s some gnarly smoke damage..
Thanks for all brave fire fighters, you all are great life savers
So much for environmental friendly electric vehicles!
Pretty neat blanket.
In Denmark we use big dumpsters filled with water, that the car(s) are being dumped into.
As he says in this video, this leads to water-pollution that needs to be handled correctly. And i believe that most of these containers do handle about 25-30.000 litre of water. That's a huge amount of water to handle at the site of fire.... I like the idea of the blanket better.
Will provide this video for our firedept. in the city.
Because Europe is always old fashioned and they will follow the lead of America's leading innovation
@@draz9765 The Fire Industry Association is a UK company, and they published the first professional info on fire blankets.
If you just sprayed water on it you would still have polluted water, but it would be running into drains and sewers where it couldn’t be treated or contained.
@@draz9765, ha ha ha, don't make me laugh. That's a really dumb comment, not based on any knowledge!
Ever see the video of the completely submerged Tesla burning underwater at a boat ramp? Some genuis tried to use their Tesla to launch a boat. Instead, the boat dragged the Tesla into the lake. A short circuit later, the batteries caught fire, and the entire car burned underwater.
A truly eye opening and informative video of the dangers of lithiun ion batteries and their impact on the enviroment and hazards to persons involved. Very well handled by true professionals. Stay safe and God bless.
Be interesting to see 20-30 years from now when people have these cars 2nd hand to end of life and let them sit and decay and degrade. Major ecological issue. And China is making 1000s of these vehicles and just putting them in fields.
I know people think “oh sh!t, an EV fire!” But there been millions of ICE vehicles that have had spontaneous issues like this over the years.
Excellent video as always, thank you. I predict that those blankets will be getting a lot more use in the coming years and will likely be made standard not just hazmat.
Right - and don't forget to get the bus and semi truck sized ones too - Gee, wonder how much those would weigh. And how many firefighters would be need seeing it took nearly 20 of them to handle this one small car inferno. Maybe each car will come equipped with a fire blanket - you know as you say "standard". And then we could legislate mandatory blanket covering for any EV parked in a garage. What a bright and carefree world we are leaving for future generations.
@@baddad18lol chill out. I have seen more firefighters stand around just because someone smelled "escaping gas" from a construction site( roadworks I think). Nothing left of that smell by the time we arrived, had to wait and call the gas company anyways.
F EV'S and FJB!!
You know these batteries will still burn even submerged in water. So what does blanket do really?
@@baddad18 calm the fuck down, grandpa. Did you forget to take your medication this morning?
Professionalism to the Max. Really liked the quick response and training. Hope to see such levels of accountability in India.
A thoughtful plan implemented and executed to perfection! Well done, y'all! Other municipalities nationwide should take notice and learn how to do things right.
You are full of $hit!
I'm sure there are many municipalities and rural areas who could only dream of funding a full hazmat department 🙄
@@B49nope sarcasm is lost
Carbon footprint of that fire is more than enough for a lifetime of an ICE vehicle
While the fire chief did give a great report, the part where he stated the the fire blanket was used the deprive the battery of oxygen was chemically in error. Lithium ion batteries that are burning produce their own oxygen during the chemical thermal reaction taking place. That is the primary reason it is so difficult to put them out.
True, but there is still benefit in preventing an unlimited, free supply of oxygen to the fire. There's a finite supply of oxygen in the chemical reaction of the battery. There's also benefit in smothering the toxic exhaust.
A blanket will only contain fumes if it can seal--which in most cases it probably can't do--otherwise it only helps with fumes by decreasing the rate they're evolving.
Aside from the battery there's a lot of combustible materials in a car. Once autoignition temperatures are achieved--regardless of what initiated the fire--it makes sense to limit the oxygen getting to them. Whether or not any exogenous oxygen would directly affect the battery's combustion, oxidation of those other materials is exothermic, so air would indirectly exacerbate and prolong the burning of the battery.
Thanks Professor
He said it was a specialized electric vehicle blanket, so it probably works in a way that combats the battery oxygen-producing issue better
I expect it is a heat shield as well to prevent or retard ignition of other combustible materials.
About 15 years ago my neighbors house was burned to the ground due to a vehicle fire in their garage. The vehicle was a Ford F-150. They had problems with the brake pressure sensor leaking and catching the brake fluid on fire. Eventually Ford fix the design flaw, but I think GMC was recently having a similar problem with one of their vehicles.
But the Hazmat Team did not respond, you liberal eco-weenie Biden voter.
Way more electrical vehicle fires these days.
Unfortunately cars with fuel tend to go up faster even than EV batteries so not much time to get it under control.
Yeah I had a friend whose truck did the same thing in a parking lot fortunately.
Combustion vehicles are so much safer than electric cars. Electric cars should be banned
Very encouraging for EV owners 😊
Correct EVs are 20x less likely to catch fire. It good for anyone to make sure they are safe.
Even more so when you drive an ICE car
@@KeenVanguardthe simple fact that they have to be replaced every three years should be enough to stay clear of EVs. It costs 40,000 to replace the battery when it's more more expensive than buying anew vehicle. We want save the planet while child labor are used mine the minerals to make vehicle. Oh but we're doing great for the environment right as china and india keep making coal plants. But we're doing something right? Yeah, you're doing something to make yourself feel better but that's all really it's not saving anything. These are the facts
@@user-vn5kf2gd6o this only happens every time a car feels depressed
@@aservant2287 none of what you said is accurate. Plenty of teslas on the road with 100k plus miles and non battery change.
EVs are effectively 20 years old. ICEs are 100+ let's gives EVs another 80 years and see if they were a failure or not
@@KeenVanguard yeah that's why in 100° weather they just explode. Nothing to see here all is well. There really isn't child labor to build them. Ok you live in a fantasy world
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE!!!!! GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU 🙏🏻
glad everyone is ok, that said...never had my gas engine vehicle catch fire from just sitting....
Hyundai/Kia just recalled 3.3 million gas cars for that last year.
@@kekdoggand how many actually burnt clown.. You could say the same about Tesla's recent recall..
Quite informative. Currently undertaking EV fire training with my department. Best wishes from Lynwood Park Rural Fire Brigade (volunteer) in Sydney, Australia 🇦🇺.
@geoffbuyscars specially trained for fighting EV fires.
Thank you for your service
I am in Sydney. I have been following the issues around EVs since the start of last year. My concern is the ratio of resources to EV density in a suburb and also in a situation where multiple dispersed fires occur concurrently. My further concerns are around sites that structurally impede the disbursement of fire fighting equipment and prevent established fire fighting techniques from being carried out. For example in parking stations that combine restricted ingress, egress and working space. Or the bridge, or in a tunnel during peak traffic times. A further concern is around the safety of civilians who lack the safety clothing and breathing apparatus. Civilian vunrability would seem especially significant is high density parking where the fire has spread and smoke is trapped in a confined space, or where fleeing cars are trapped at exit pinch points or where fire fighting vehicles block traffic. Is there sufficient funding guaranteed for increased staffing, education and equipment?
Another point. How will EV batteries be disposed of?
@@trojanhman8136You will be relieved to know that not only are EV battery fires quite rare, but some important developments are underway that will make them much more rare.
Firstly, the newer LFP type batteries do not ignite. Due to their lower cost, they have become widely adopted and within the next year they will represent the majority of EVs on the market, including almost all of the lower priced models.
Secondly, improvements in manufacturing methods of non-LFP batteries have greatly reduced their risk of thermal runaway.
Note that, to date, most thermal runaway events have been related to manufacturing defects. These have been analyzed and accounted for in new designs and new implementations.
Note also that BYD, the fastest growing player in the EV industry, is known for their strong emphasis on fire safety in their batteries, which are made in-house.
This is what the internet is for! Spreading education and information 👍
Lot of sarcasm too🙂
@@orlandominichiello and misinformation too.
...except he spread incorrect information. There’s that...
@@onerider808 Oh, okay.
What information are you referring to?
This was an incredibly well produced video. Sorry to the homeowners whose house was destroyed and lost both cars. I’m curious are the blankets reusable?
what a nightmare...We will see this more and more
Not more then burning cars with combustion engine and ore burning smartphones or other devices with Lithium Batteries but at the end, it’s rare over all
@@Wha73v3rcars that catch fire can be put out easily. Electric vehicles can not be put out easily in many cases. And by the way, EV’s use lithium ion batteries. Just like phones, laptops, and e scooters / bikes do
@@oahts5906you clearly do not know much about batteries… There are battery chemistries that don’t use Lithium like Sodium-Ion batteries. LFP and blade batteries are also highly resistant to fire and are very unlikely to catch fire unless they are exposed to extreme heat. Yes an EV fire is harder to put out, but an EV is less likely start burning in the first place. Modern EV’s are safe unlike this I-Pace which was released 8 years ago. The Volvo XC40 recharge has never had a single fatal accident and 2 reported fires in over 100.000 units.
@@Kurre. no one is talking about different types of batteries, why don’t you stay aware of what the conversation is? 90% of EV’s use what? Lithium ion batteries. There have been over 60 deaths related to fires in teslas alone. And any EV involved in an accident is at an elevated risk of what? Catching on fire. EV’s are not safe, certainly no safer than traditional internal combustion engines.
Not only are they not safe, they are less reliable.
And in the event that an EV does catch fire, the emitted fumes are highly toxic and spread considerably far, putting other people at risk.
Internal combustion engines do not pose that risk.
A great vlog that raises awareness to such a subtle thing like battery combustion and nice to see how the blankets are used in practice
What? Lithium Ion battery combustion is NOT SUBTLE you EV apologist.
@@jimjones-pz1tt I think he meant that dealing with a battery fire is not straightforward so it was interesting to see the effective approach used by the fire department in this case.
Not many people know about how to deal with them@@jimjones-pz1tt
People should check with their home insurance because this may not be covered. In future it may be even worse for insured.
Why would insurance not cover it? My policy doesn’t mention an exemption for electric vehicle fires not being covered.
@@ROgletree They are making moves to declare them a hazard, like having a dangerous breed of dog.
They should have to pay ridiculous rates for the threat they pose. Yes insurance companies are already starting to nix this nonsense. You want to virtue signal, pay the bill. Multimillion dollar policies on these vehicles just in case they take down an entire parking structure. Owner is liable for lawsuit for whatever insurance won't cover, etc. That's how insurance works, the more risk YOU are the more YOU pay. Insurance companies already refuse to insure homes within forest fire and flood prone areas.
If the US federal government , over two decades ago determined that fires can cause the collapse of 110 story skyscrapers how could any building code today allow charging stations in ANY building that people live or work in ?
Wow! What a concise and amazing video. Thank you for your service. Stay safe.
Incredible report! thanks for all your hard work
You guys do such a GREAT job. As a business manager in your district, I'm glad to have you backing us up! Thanks from The UPS Store!!
"Buy an electric vehicle," they said.
"It'll save the environment."
Love the toxic smoke part
I use it to smoke my barbecue flavoured insect pastes)
That goodness, the people were home 😊 many thanks to our firefighters 😊
Lithium battery fires self-oxidize, they supply their own oxygen..! These blankets only protect the trucks carrying them away, if that at all..
Great work by everyone involved.
Jaguars did have electrical issues historically.
Did anyone notice how many vehichles in the salvage yard are covered in these blankets?
Funny how green energy turns to black smoke so quick
Touche’
I'm all for green energy but man it's annoying how much electricity is getting pushed as the face of green energy.
All these battery powered cars are just gonna become heavier and strain already pinched resources even more considering how big of a battery they need.
Not to mention when it comes time to replace em.
EV cars are just a bandaid to keep the auto industry propped up. It doesn't do anything to address the issues caused by the overwhelming amount of cars, just shifts around the hazards.
@@HyenaBlank replace ?
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@@HyenaBlank it’s the not in my backyard syndrome. It’s OK when the electricity ⚡️ is generated miles and miles away from your home. It’s gotta come from somewhere and most is coal, gas and nuclear.
I don't think I could sleep soundly with one of these beasts sitting in my garage.
Not saying you're wrong to fear this, but at the same time, most Americans have one or two vehicles in their garage with up to 40 gallons of very flammable fuel. Both are very legitimate safety concerns and should be addressed accordingly!
I think the concern is legitimate. Internal combustion engine vehicles do not suddenly self-immolate because they don't like the way they're being charged. Unfortunately, it's not just electric cars, it's electric bicycles and for a while it was those electric hoverboards and I think it's going to happen more and more with these batteries. My two electric bicycles are sitting outside and I charge them outside for this specific reason. Would you want your family asleep at 4 AM when your electric car decides to burn down your house? @@mattkroening7964
@@mattkroening7964 40 gallons of gasoline do not spontaneous combust.... and then spontaneously combust again and again and again and require police and fire escort to its final resting place.
@@AkioWasRight that's right, gasoline is most dangerous in its gaseous form. If there's a leak from the top of your tank overnight, any spark could cause an explosion. That said, lithium ion batteries are much more difficult to manage, even if they don't explode in the manner that gasoline does. It's best for us to move away from these types of batteries towards more stable chemistries (i.e. solid state batteries), which are coming soon!
@@bob0in0 Stop circulating these bogus studies. There isn't any reliable data on EV fires because of the fleet age differences.
There were 611,000 EVs in Sweden, but MSB collected data over a 4 year timespan, between 2018 and 2022. The number of new registered EVs in Sweden over that timespan had increased exponentially each year, meaning more new EVs make up the number of registrations. The average age of ICE registrations in Sweden is much, MUCH older. In fact, over 10 years old. Nevermind average age, there were hardly any EVs 10+ years ago, probably not even 1,000 new registrations a year.
This makes any comparison faulty, as age and condition plays a massive role in fires. A vehicle that is older and weathered is far more likely to catch fire than a brand new vehicle. MSB's assessment is just dishonest and based on a false comparison.
It's like comparing the heart attack rate of men under the age of 90 to women under the age of 20 and concluding men have weaker hearts.
I admire the caution of the response team.
For the fire fighters; Thank you for your dedication.
As for the EV; No comment.
Thank you first responders! Exceptional and informative video. Thank you for sharing!
THANK YOU, SMFD, for taking the time to bring awareness to this danger! And for taking the time to become informed and very prepared to handle this type of fire. You give great information for both EV owners, consumers and other fellow fire first responders to know what to do if one of these fires occurs to keep EVERYONE safe until the fire is contained. This video needs to be shared far and wide so that we all know the hazards and the prevention measures of the technology that we use everyday! These guys are true heroes!
Agree. This video should be mandatory education for all N. American (and wider) fire departments. But it also requires the willingness to spend the money by the 'bean counters' - i.e. the city/town/municipality powers that be.
@@kmooney1954 It's also missing a super important piece of information, that water and lithium react exothermically, which means putting water on a battery fire is not only ineffective, it actively worsens the fire.
Tell me again how EV's are going to save the planet. I am retired FD and I will never own one of these things. One neighboring department used 35,000 gallons of water to try and put a Nissan Leaf.
These video need to be viewed by Congress and all the fools who are demanding lower use of fossil fuels.
On a whole other take, you firefighters did an awesome job! Many blessings to you!
They'll just stop everyone from driving. That's THEIR plan.
When electric cars first started coming out I remember my department had a car catch fire on the highway. They got it out and as the tow truck was gonna pull away it reignited so they then had to redo everything as the tow truck got the car as far away from his cab as he could. They got that out and the tow company was bale to get it to their yard (wasn't far down the road). As the FD was coming back into the station it reignited and they went back out and just had the truck on standby at the tow yard all night.
@wasntme7845 The OP said cars not buses (if you want to be pedantic). And i am confident you know its modern lithium batteries that are the issue.
@@Yarra_Shejtan 1890???!!!! they had electric cars then
@wasntme7845 Running on a grid, not batteries.
@wasntme7845 Trolleybus by then, and in early 20th, the batteries where based on lead compound, so no thermal runaway.
@wasntme7845They weren’t Lithium-Ion dummy
2:23 "They're using respiratory protection"
Guy walks by with none on...
Beautiful editing
Here in London two double decker EV buses caught fire at the weekend. All EV buses have now been withdrawn from service as I understand.
they could still ride
Omg 😲 😱.
So what have you learned? Don't buy chinese (BYD) buses.
Excellent video and great advice regarding keeping means of egress open and clear of obstructions and fire hazards.
But EV's are like super awesome for the environment and stuff.
Yeah totally 😂
Usually.
@@dougabbott8261 Never.
clean and quiet. I have seen a few gas car fires.@@Scroll_Lock
@@bob0in0 And that why they used a "gas car blanket" instead of an "electric vehicle blanket" in the video. Lmao
Erik - Awesome job as always.... Thank you.
Glad the homeowners are ok and the entire house didn't burn down. Who would have thought going green can be hazardous to one's health?!?!
love the videos always look forward to the videos coming out! super informational!
They should do a video like this for clothes dryers. There are approximately 15000 structure fires in the United States every year caused by clothes dryers and the worst case scenarios are when people don't make it out. Get your dryer serviced regularly by an appliance repair technician.
Lint accumulates inside the cabinet where you cannot see and needs to be cleaned out regularly.
Never start your dryer and go shopping and never start your dryer and go to bed.
Make sure you have a working smoke detector near your dryer.
But you can't prevent a ev battery fire. The best way is to not buy them
My god man, don’t mention other real life examples that happen every day! We want to hear about rare and volatile EV fires that show our trusty petrol powered cars are immune from fire and explosions.
No EV ever for me. Very scary situation.
Great presentation!...(50 yrs in FS )...