Unleashing the Power of RADIO During a Power Outage - Radio Prepping
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ย. 2024
- Radio Prepping and Preparedness is essential in the event of a power outage of blackout. Prepare NOW, so that you aren't caught off-guard when an outage happens. This is a story from Australia about such a situation, and a challenge to Hams around the world for using local comms and repeaters.
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Everyone else when power is out: What do we do now?
HAM operator: Time to do some HF, now that noise floor is so much lower...
Yes indeed
The wife says, get some heat or Air moving first!
I watch youtube and play video games.
Pinning this comment lol
furious qrp and ft8
I got my general for one reason only and that was to practice with amateur radio as part of a larger emergency preparations plan. I will never be participating in parks on the air or contesting or any of that. I just want to familiarize myself with Ham Radio, so that when the inevitable widespread, long term grid down event occurs, I can hit the airwaves running rather than trying to figure it out after the fact.
You will need a solar charged battery bank. There are not many 12 voltage battery banks that have the capacity or delivery for HF. Most 12 voltage batteries will only deliver 1.5 amps which severely limits how many watts you can transmit. You will need a genuine 50 watts and a good wire antenna if SHTF. There won't be an electrical grid and your generator will attract armed thieves who will steal it or kill you and your family if you are dumb enough to try and defend it. The mass transit systems will just provide the same gangs who "shoplift" drug, jewelry, department stores with transportation to your suburb. You will need to move away from them and that means a wire antenna and light weight solar battery bank.
This happened to me in Oregon. No cell service, nothing. I jumped on the radio and got to ….England! No help there. Trued again. LA! No one local. The nice Ham in LA called PGE and found that someone had driven their car into the upstream transformer farm, blowing every to h*ll. Got out the battery operated lantern and played cribbage for two days. In a life & death situation, radio is fine. For a power outage? Forget it.
Optus is owned by the Singtel Singapore Telco network. They roughly span 92% of the Australian Population. Optus outage was a series of network infrastructure collisions with firmware that was not updated properly. Under Optus, there are several companies and organisations (including government and hospitals) use the backbone of the Singtel's network.
Mt Alexander has a huge backbone for South Australia to Victoria (VK ham) multiple repeaters across the entire South Australia and Western Victoria Amateur Repeater.
The only thing we have in our area is a concerted effort to discourage new licensees from trying to do anything. And a whole lot of "hooray for me and screw you" mentality. I gave up trying to be a positive counterbalance after about 3 years.
I don’t know if I’d call it a watch group, but we have a very active amateur club with a super link repeater system across Oklahoma. It is a major reason I got my license.
I got my general for one reason only and that was to practice with amateur radio as part of a larger emergency prep plan.
Also during power outages you will notice that a simple baofeng is much more effective, all cities generate a lot of electrical noise, LED lights and diesel engines.
*might* be more effective
In my area of Oregon, I have heard exactly one conversation on 2 meters this week. No one seems to use UHF, VHF. Most hams are HF around here. 20 - 80 meters. 10 and 12 have lots of Japanese and one poor guy from Korea who was inundated. 15 meters was as dead as 6 meters.
Why didnt he pick up the telephone? Unless his backup FiOS modem battery is dead your home telephone service works during a power outage.
Who on earth still has one of those?
Lol
@@robmillle Anyone who does not rely only on my cell phone towers battery backup. Your internet and telephone will work during a power outage longer then you will survive as a prepper.
The Baofeng is better than no HT, but, under emergency conditions, with a crowded band, the deficiency of Baofeng receive selectivity could become a liability. The Yaesu FT-65 is a good sub $100 SDR alternative, but something like the Yaesu FT-60 (VHF/UHF) or the Kenwood TH-K20A (VHF only) would provide much better selectivity, for well under $200.
Central Arkansas has several VHF repeaters linked across the state when needed and also every time a a statewide net is on.
For about $1,500 you can also build a budget solar/batt/AC/DC backup on a cart. I used a Renogy 4D gel cell, Light Catcher Solar panels, Rich Solar cables and almost everything came from eBay whenever I saw prices dipped, as they do occasionally.
I'm working on something like that for my hunting lease - and Hamshack too. Lots of projects like that upcoming
@@HamRadio2 outstanding. It's great to be able to store some power, and make power quietly and portably. 👍
Jefferson County MO has a very active ARES net. Repeater nets once a week and simplex meets once a month. Just started a 60 and 80 mHz NVIS net due to hills blocking some simplex users. 73, KF0NNQ
Thanks @Ham Radio 2.0
for the video aboout down under its an area that I live quiet close to ( approximately 100km's) south & spend a lot of time worrying in, in my capacity as a Snr Comms Network Engineer.
I have joined the group so we will see what happens.
Unlike the U.S. prepping in Australia is very hit & miss & not widely followed or adopted it a case of " ah she'll be right mate " that is until the SH'sTF ( like the Optus Networkgoing down ) & then our companies phones (Essential Communications Services) ring off the hook.
Love your & Hayden 7HH Videos keep up the incredible content.
Rgs
Wayne VK3ECS
I live in an area glanced every couple of years by a hurricane or tropical storm. I have a couple of portable HF, several HTs with backup batteries, various brands. My plan includes CB, GMRS for family communications and even MURS.
I gave two backup Renolgy batteries for my HF radios, several solar panels for recharging.
My local club was instrumental with the county EMO to develop a communications plan for emergency shelters, the local hospital and links between the courthouse and the EMO command center. And the county subsidized part of the new ham antenna system in the north and south ends of the county.
I have solar and batty backup enough for 24/7 ops/emcomms. Working on a wood fired steam powered electrical generator as an alternative backup - 15 psi pressure cooker.
Speaking my language. :) Now you know what the extra bright flashlight is for on the UV9GX and UV9PX. ;) I have the EARS (Emergency Assistance Radio Syndicate) that I've been casually trying to start up in my area, to connect FRS/GMRS/MURS/HAM (and other services) to Public Safety (basically an AuxComm bridge), but it's slow going as the general public just doesn't get radios and totally take their mobile phone comms for granted. :)
They'll eventually come around, Mark. You're a very persuasive and knowledgeable two way radio op. 73. KC3UEE
I'd watch this... But my power is out! 😢 😫
What do I dooooo?
Yes and working on a Arden system and intergrading into more than one input or system. Next APRS to get locations and data out with packet and VARA on back up systems.
Ronny Dahl, Australia Off Road TH-cam influencer says that with their 9 dbi bull bar mounted antenna they can talk voice out to 3500 kilometers reliably. I asked what frequency/band but they never answered.
That's gotta be HF
@@HamRadio2 I agree but they claim that it works 24/7 365. I know of no frequency that functions that way at those distances.
I'm a senior communications network engineer I've been in the comms industry for over 30 yrs & used to watch Ronny Dahl till he started talking absolute crap about communications I tried to make contact to correct him but never received a reply.
I stopped watching him sprout his misinformation.
@@Wayne-Pr agreed!
We lose powe for 3-5 days at least twice a year sometimes 3-4 times...RV has 1000w solar 520ah battery and several generators. We live in boonies so you have to be ready...its the price you pay to live far away from all the aholes in the big city
Being prepared for anything should ALWAYS be proactive, not reactive.
Trying to get more of my family members licensed as Hams (I have been one for 2+ years, currently a General).
Fortunately there are enough of us in my sleepy town that we could communicate effectively if need be. Would be better if we had our own repeater.
Great video as always Jason!
Like we discussed this weekend Comms Plan! doesn't matter how many basic or fancy radios you have if no one is on the same page.Sure the rag chew on some odd 40m will have each other dialed in. But, people without fancy equipment will be left out.
Power is my big consideration when the grid is down… I have a generator for the house… but for powering my base stations, i am on the hunt for a solar generator that I run them on without having to run a power supply on to convert 120AC to DC. Why have to take stored DC, convert to AC just to run DC radios…
But the required amperage is the issue.
I have two Renogy 100ah LiPo batteries in the shack. I run off of them all the time. No solar panels yet. I keep them charged with a Noco Genius 10 battery charger for now. It turns on and off as needed. The batteries are always fully charged for the most part. If the power goes out, I don't have to do anything. I do have a generator, but I'm not going to drag it out and fire it up at 1am. When the power goes out, the only thing that turns off (as far as radios go), is the Noco charger. In an emergency, I'm pretty sure I could run for more than a week. A 4" reverse light from a semi is more than enough to provide light in the shack. I set this up as a matter of convenience. I don't have to quit playing radio if the power goes out. I don't have to make sure batteries are charged, they are always on the charger. Running off batteries, with a charger connected to them has not been a noise problem on any band I operate on. I run UHF to 160. I am hooking up a battery monitor from Powerwerx today. I am guessing that these batteries never get below 80% of their capacity, I will be dead before those batteries are.
This is something I'm attempting to get going in my area.
I am in Boston NY . power out many times a year. many repeaters around me have many battery's for backup. some can run a week or more. I have gotten generators to fix. many over the years . did not start when needed. mostly bad gas. propane does not go bad. but in subzero or below zero they freeze up and either wont start or stall out. Propane stays a liquid when very cold. cell phones hear have been known to drop calls in extreme weather. CB becomes useless with snow static from blowing snow at times. MURS and GMRS/FRS does work well . I find that 222 MHz band does work a tad better during extreme weather. heavy snow can block UHF at times. either ice or snow on antenna. find it best have all bands . 73's
Back up stuff in house, 4 automatic emergency lights, 2 battery backup power supplies with AC & solar charger. Plus 100 AH & 30 AH battery boxes with usb, power pole & terminal attachments. Two inverters. Multiple radios, & flashlights. Also made up 12v led light strips with power poles & store in the boxes. Just in case...
Failure is not an option... it's a requirement. Gotta be prepared for things to go wrong.
With no emergency you struggle to hear anybody on the repeaters, what do you think will happen when there is an emergency? Nothing. If you get hold of an 80 year old, he will also not be able to help you. In AUS the 4x4 crowd are probably the ones who will establish a good network in an emergency. Radios in the vehicles, not reliant on electricity. Also not Hams. We need to get CB radios for emergency and keep the Ham radios for a dead hobby.
What if the entire grid is down? Wouldn't all repeaters be down?
Not if they're on backup power. But that only lasts so long
@HamRadio2 Thank you. New to radios. Self-teaching with help from those like you. Thank you sir.
During Ice Storm Uri, the best way to get weather and like info was to be a ham, or have a scanner and listen to 147.00 repeater. Tv and commercial radio reduced power, so ham radio had the best go to source for news
ALL Baofeng radios are illegal to use in Australia.
You simply have to use a UPS, which you can easily disassemble and prepare an extra wire harness to connect a car battery if necessary. It is also convenient that the UPS has easy access to replace the fuses, although there are power supplies for radio that allow batteries to be charged, the classic UPS adds a filter and extra protection in addition to allowing the use of other devices that require 110 or 220v electricity
Jason, Thank you so much for all your wonderful tips on Emergencies !!! Pus the way the world is.....Sometimes I'm glad I'm 70yrs young Your AWESOME!!!!!
You are so welcome!
I'm so happy my wife is looking at solar panels and batteries on Amazon. I just wish she'd get her tech ticket.
I am in the habit of recharging ALL 129 of my rechargable batteries around New Year's week. Takes about 3 days with three chargers going at the same time.
Maybe get like a couple big 12v batteries and keep them charged that way they can recharge whatever you need in an emergency
Besides having a disaster kit, iyou need to test it out at least twice a year to make sure it's good.
I would run my station my batteries once a month to make sure I know the run time and fix problems before you need it in emergency. You can say you're prepared but if you never test it, when it's needed, you find out it doesn't work. IT disaster recovery 101.
There's a newer group here in Texas that focuses on this type of thing. I recently joined them on FB but haven't had the chance to go to any of their training or meetups yet. "United Citizens of Texas".
I'll have to check that out
I keep a 100 AH lifepo4 battery at my station I exercise it every other month and its ready to go I also have foldable 120W solar panel and charger I can hook to it I would benefit from more solar for certain but most of the power outages experienced here are usually only a few hours at the most. I also have a 1000 Watt Jackery that could charge cell phones iPads etc.
From what i understand there are issues getting boafengs in Australia. Not sure but quasi legal/ilegal down under . lol it’s -13 at my house
Great vid, bruh!
A rig like the FT2920 at 80 watts is great for Simplex 2M.
Yep
I use a Yaesu FT-2980, powered by a Bioenno LiFePo battery during power out scenarios. I can listen to the SkyWarn net. If lightning gets too close for comfort, I switch to an HT. I make sure my HTs are fully charged when the WX forecast calls for storms.
Lancaster Pa.,9 A.M est. K3IR daily mornings has a welfare net, since covid. Simple. How ya feeling, what are you seeing & do you need anything? Sometimes roundtable, sometimes net control. Very informal.
Repeater is also on echolink.
I always kept the vx6r it's a very very good radio ❤
Awesome topic I wonder if why his home station was not working is the lightning he had his antennas disconnected
That was exactly the reason!
Yes, That's why.
I'm on the far side of DFW from you(Sachse area). I would be willing to participate in a local radio watch group.
Yeah I am looking into that, sounds fun
Not all dollars in the world are US dollars…. ;-) 150 AUD is worth about 100 USD right now…
True
CB radio in Down Under is our GMRS in the States
Same thing would be said though - both GMRS and CB HTs are less than he was saying, at least they are less in the USA
@@HamRadio2can I just add to that above statement & say that out CB here in Australia is UHF 476/477 Mhz reliable range vehicle to vehicle in non elevated area can be on Avarage generally speaking approximately 5km's.
Our "CB" plan has just been upgraded from 40chnls to 80chnl by splitting the 25kc separation to 12.5Kc separation.
Trying to find a spare "quiet" channel in the built up area is near impossible it was one of the many reasons that I got my ticket.
Rgs
Wayne VK3ECS
smart idea
We gonna see you at GHHF?
Probably
Will hamradio work when power outage new ham here
Yes if you have batteries
@@HamRadio2 k thank you I charge mine all the time have a blessed weekend I heard you one time on tarrant county 146.9400 repeater
73 from KG5RJE. Thanks for the reply
Hi from E TN. WB9VVH
Ham radio emcomms is kind of pointless. It's outmoded. Cell towers have generator backup in most areas now. There's end user direct accessible satellite internet now. Emergency services have their own radio networks. Outages don't last forever, and for an outage of a day or two, grab a book. Ham radio emcomms is a fantasy.
This is patently false. Good luck not being prepared for the next outage.
Awesome example how to get started , and be aware of your capabilities.
KN6JHC