Where did San Francisco's homeless go during APEC? Here's what we uncovered
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- If you've visited San Francisco in the last week during APEC, chances are you have noticed fewer unhoused people near Moscone Center and downtown. The question is: where did they all go? abc7ne.ws/47axVMR
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I'm confused. I thought the homeless problem was impossible to deal with and the homeless decided not to use the shelters. Now we know the city can deal with it if the city really decides it's important enough.
LOL NAH That's just what they want you to think. If they solved homelessness, a bunch of useless government employees would be out of the job!
Did you even watch the video? They didn't clean up the homeless people. They just moved them a few blocks away from the conference.
As a merchant myself, the reason it is SO hard to control homelessness is because most of the homeless are men, most of them are substance abusers and mentally ill. Free shelter is not something that is easily acceptable for these men. They are SMART enough to know that there is a catch, they have to follow rules and regulations. Which means treatment and meds. They would much rather harass merchants, residents and federal workers than to receive help from city officials. Women and girls are easier to manipulate and put to work which is why we see less of them than men. I know because I am a female merchant who deals with 5150s everyday and YES, I do listen to their side of the story.👍💯
correction , now YOU know many people that have lived in S.F. for decades know this is how it is.
And whatever happened to the feral injunctions or whatever rules there were that we can’t move or force the homeless to do whatever they want?
The city basically just "swept the problem under the rug" until the guests leave. It will be back shortly. Then officials lied about it. The city has no intention to provide any long term solutions, they just wanted things to look "petty" during the event.
Of course, after all their boss is only in town for a few days, why so much work to solve the real problem, besides I think they want the problem.
There's something to be said for "sweeping the problem under the rug" all year round. Some things probably should just stay under the rug.
Homelessness, drug markets, prostitution - in truth there's no society in all of history that has eradicated these things conpletely. Generally they are a symptom of a much wider cultural rot that can only really be improved by maintaining the sorts of cultural traditions, customs and expectations that keep people afloat.
But putting that aside, the degree to which such decay is present and visible - it ought to be swept out to the fringes. Allowing these things to be constantly visible and pressing on the whole community all the time is devastating to morale, cohesion, beauty... And it does actually make the problem worse as it just further nudges everybody a little closer to the abyss, a little closer to hell.
The other thing is if through governance it's made more difficult to be a homeless drug addict - less people will do it. Sometimes it's actually good for these people to punish them for being the way they're being. Sometimes real compassion is tough love.
For what it's worth, I have been a heroin junkie before in my life, so it's not like I have no sympathy for these folks. But looking back, I regret how LITTLE shame was dieected at me for the lifestyle I was living. Regular upstanding productive people SHOULD shame those who are just a drain. It's better for everybody. There were way way way too many "services" making it much easier for me to be a 20 year old heroin junkie. Had it been harder to find syringes, harder to find the drugs, harder to find other people living that way, had I been more harshly judged by the normies I did interact with; I'd have probably kicked the habit sooner, or not even sunk so deep into it in the first place. These safe injection sites, needle exchanges, and the tolerance of vagrant encampments are doing more harm than good.
That’s exactly what Gavin said… and y’all keep voting for him. Remember… Kamala says, “when the people vote… they get what they ask for… and in this case… they got what they wanted.” You all vote for people who prioritize others over the safety and well being of tax payers. Y’all have younger and younger generations of homeless people who do nothing and take away from others more so than any place else… your voting habits are the issue.
Thar be gold in them bums!!
The Federal monies flowing in to stem the tide is too much to give up.
The bums will be bums as long as the Federal fiscal fortifications feeds the fray!
Okay, so how would you have solved this homeless problem? 🤔
Perfect example of how it is only a problem with a solution when it affects them.
@Rovingdog628 The way of the world is to be indoctrinated into the selfish deceit of materialism that negates the true nature of man which is the desire to be free. I cannot solve problems that don't belong to me, but I do my best not to participate in the furtherance of the destruction of humanity for the sake of making a buck. People hate me for not validating them and their shallow pursuits of status and money. Most of this phony society can always find what they need for that on the mind control device the system has fooled them into believing is a smart phone something I have never owned. Change happens one person at a time I have no messianic complex and I can only do what I can to make what little space I am in on this planet a little better in hope that others will someday follow.
@Rovingdog628Way to miss the entire point, Typical. It proves these Democratic politicians never cared until it started affecting THEM.
@Rovingdog628you’re kidding right? You do realize that people vote these politicians into office and pay their salary to actually solve these problems. The OP isn’t responsible for other people’s problems. Politicians are.
@Rovingdog628 Every day is a new day to where I try to "solve" my problems. With a clear goal in mind.
@Rovingdog628Perfect and typical response from a "Head in Sand" liberal. Please don't vote.
SF just proved that they can solve the homeless problem. They just choose not to.
SF just swept it under the rug.
This applies to almost every problem in the USA, including gun violence, terrible public transportation, and education. The real issue is that none of these things are prioritized.
Exactly
Homeless industry is too profitable
@@GovernmentIssued it's a buisness
when citizens place a barrier they are scolded but the admin does it is ok and encouraged
Progressives are the 4th reich
Exactly. Wanna know why?.... No permit to put that there. Well....ok.... How do I get a permit? Go down to the city and fill out a permit form. Will it cost me?..... Yes. $500 per month it's there plus a processing fee if $25 and another $50 for weekly maintenance.....
It's amazing that San Fran was able to be cleaned up so fast in time for the APEC without any unhoused advocate groups filing any lawsuits on their behalf.
politicians only get things done when it benefits them.
advocate groups are funded by china.
all bought and sold...
The homeless were told to leave and if they didn't. they would be arrested for various charges and held in custody. While in custody, they would not be able to use drugs and would suffer from withdrawal. They moved....temporarily.
This is the correct explanation
THEY PUT THEM IN PRISON!
AND F YOU SO-CALLED POLITICIANS!
@dewmontain123 it's actually a lie most homeless are in jail.wit 0 charges and the rest got in their $80,000 cars and drove to another city for a few days
Temporarily maybe for most but not all. It took something dramatic like this for me to get clean and sober. Now I got over 3 years and a fruitful Life. 😊
@@jongee2230 Good for you👍
This only goes to show who they actually work for and it isn’t the taxpayer.
Damn right!
Most of your taxes went to Ukraine and Israel 😂
The blue party is red because it kowtows to the CCP. The red party is also red, because it‘s fine with Russia winning.
This is wrong on a number of levels, the news station didn't ask the hard questions.
Like what?
I see nothing wrong 😂
@@zoneout0 Wrong in the sense that SF could have done this at any time but chose to (temporarily) clean up the streets when some foreign elites come to town.
What flavor of ice cream is President Biden eating?
I see nothing wrong here I’m tired of y’all being so fckn soft and letting the homeless and crimes do whatever they want in the city and I feel so embarrassed for those who visits here. SF needs to clean up House!
I'm 67. When I was in 7th grade, my social studies teacher told us of how communists countries were doing this when American dignitaries were scheduled to arrive. He also went on to tell us this could happen in our own country someday. I remember thinking ..."no way...that could never happen"
Reality bites. I can relate. Idealist at heart, want to believe the best of people, the best of America, perhaps I still do. But we live and learn.
i remember mine teaching me, in 12th grade, that both your parents had to be citizens of the united states at the time of your birth for you to be considered a natural born citizen. if not, you were still considered a citizen which was the same as a naturalized citizen and you could still run for any office except president.
I Remember when boys from the country would go to school with shotguns locked in the pickup. It was no big thing. No school shooting back then either. Every boy had a pocketknife. No stabbing rampages then either. The nation lost its way when the kicked God out of schools and replaced it with socialistic teachings.
Communism spread
I bet you're just freaking out and all this bullshit going on now.... I'm from genix and i sure am. Ever since my generation all these people have gone to Dog sh**.. look at our shit bag circus government
ok so we can fix this when foreign leaders/ big tech conferences come into the city but not for the people living there that actually pay the taxes in the city - something is really broken here!
Gavin Newsom does not care about taxpayers
its not "fixed" dummy. A thousand addicts don't magically disappear. If the US doesn't improve its social mobility, a lot more of these guys will swarm the street.
It’s broken but elected blue officials don’t know how to fix it
What‘s broken are the voters who don’t want to fix it. Vote out the Dems - or at least threaten to - and they‘ll finally stop taking us voters for granted.
The city should put their best foot forward for the residence who have to deal with these issues every day. The residence deserve better.
I think you mean residents. Residence mean place where one resides.
@@RarebitFiends That is what I meant.
dont expect any help from mayor London Breed, or Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom just wanted to worship at China,s presidents feet.
They‘ll only get better if they vote against the Dems. Right now, the pols stay in power and take their constituents for granted.
This didn’t answer much questions. Terrible journalism.
@Scully. The report literally showed how patheti८ it was for local Gøv to wait until the first day of Ape८, to open a 300 bed shelter. then reporter physically went to a location where a lot of people were moved.
Just sheer incompetence on the part as the "reporter"
The homeless are all now mentally healthy, clean and sober, employed and sheltered. 😍🥰 SF is awesome!
How did you come to that conclusion?
@@Katsnacks The gubernment told him.
In a Disney movie yeah and they would be lesbians.
Exactly what they want you idiots to believe
@JigsawBell-rx9yb that's a lie you dumb fuk
They aren’t experiencing homelessness they are experiencing drug addiction
That's why they don't want to go to shelters; they can't get high and defecate themself.
Thank you China for solving the homeless problem
😂
Don't forget to thank them for helping start it.
@@fastfreeksthey didn’t start it. Forced Diversity/multiculturalism/desegregation and lowering standards in our education system started it.
The BLM basketball Americans don’t test as well intellectually so they dumbed down school for everyone as a result. And you’re seeing the conclusions.
Not to mention shutting down mental institutions as “inhumane” when 95% of homeless should be in institutions
Why? Are they ashame that guests from APEC will see what they have done to California? They did not even care if their own citizens saw it. Haha! Hypocrites to the core!
This reminds me of what Russia and East Germany used to do when foreign dignitaries arrived: usher them through sanitized versions of town, with all the usual detritus hidden away until the dignitaries were gone again. It's shameful that California has joined this time-honored tradition of hiding unpleasant realities.
I was born in Soviet Union . In that time we DID NOT have such amount of homeless on the streets. Who ever was drunk on the streets was taken to the police to be detained for 15 days.
Nowadays, in Ukraine during such destructive war you will NOT see homeless and addicts on the streets.
This is not about money. This is about the mindset and what had been allowed
@@LanaW123 It's true that there were no homeless. What I meant is that the leaders made things look nicer than they were for the guests.
Yep, for as wealthy and progressive California is there sure is a lot to hide.
There are billions of taxpayer dollars at stake, which city government doles out to NGOs, who in turn do three things:
1. Keep growing the organization's budget and salaries.
2. Keep city politician benefactors in office.
3. Keep the homeless problem growing.
the business of cheese, baby!
Legalized organized crime
It’s so glad that the compassion crowd changed the term to “people experiencing homelessness” instead of homeless people. It’s really had a big impact to the problem.
I thought the new PC term was “unhoused”
@@sr9253 That was so last week!
It’s unhoused you bigot. They’re obviously hard on their luck at the moment. Have some compassion!!! 🤡
Lol
Most of these people are addicts
I wish President Xi would visit S.F more often... the city would be much cleaner and livable.
Or if residents would change their vote.
Must feel like Santa's coming to town 🎅🎄
One meme showed a scarecrow with Xi's face on it to keep the city clean
It all starts with who we and what we vote for. Xi can keep his commie self over there in China.
The city didn't do crap, all those planter boxes on Van Ness are Private, I know, I live near Van Ness & Willow. The Optical building was having issues with glaucoma patients getting confused with tents, so they partnered with other buildings and started getting planters, they cover a few blocks of Van Ness and even run down Eddy where a LOT of the drug dealers were at. Don't give the city ANY credit for this, this is all fed up private citizens and businesses trying to survive. I am glad to see it also, I go jogging every morning at about 4:00 AM and constantly had homeless people getting aggressive with me just as I left my home.
Buy a treadmill?
Seriously though: I am sorry that a subset of homeless and/or mentally ill people are bothering you when you simply wish to go for a jog. I suppose you could buy a case of nutrition bars and ask if they want some breakfast? That is not something that many people wish to do though.
I never had problems with homeless people in any significant form, yet then again: I often bought them food and smoked weed with them lol. My decision was definitely risky though. I met a few crazy crackheads on occassion for sure.
So maybe buy a treadmill or go to a gym? House to car to track/gym?
@@py_a_thon 2 days ago a guy shoved me because he was leaning against the entrance to my apartment building smoking a foil, and I asked if he could move.. You are telling me that is totally acceptable behavior because I didn't offer this man a "toll" in the form of breakfast bars to enter MY apartment building... Who says that I can even afford to give away breakfast bars? I was just diagnosed with ALS and can't even work right now, hence trying to run and going to the gym early in the morning in an attempt to keep some nerve function for as long as I possibly can, but the issue is because I am not feeding people when I cant even afford groceries myself.
@@py_a_thon if you ever have smelled the urine and feces from humans in the Mission and Market districts of SF - you'd understand why someone is not keen on jogging through those sidewalks.
@@BrysonCityDashCam28713 Isn't there a really nice walking/running path near the bridge? Also: don't most schools have a track that you can run on at 4am with permission?
And yeah: I get it. I wouldn't really want to jog in many places in this world. Also, running through the streets at 4am can seem suspicious sometimes. Last thing you need is a Karen or a cop ruining your day.
Also, I forgot some other perhaps good advice. There should be some jogging clubs you can join. A dozen or more people jogging together at 4am are probably fairly safe, even from the actually dangerous crazy homeless people, instead of just the threat of "that homeless person might be dangerous(yet probably isn't").
So suddenly they were able to clean up cuz of Apec?
Exactly
Yes, they’ve been talking about this for the past two weeks
City officials swept the dust under the rug.
The dust is still there.
As if the foreign guests don't have access to the internet to see the situation in San Francisco 😅
As we all now know, these problems can be resolved but it has to be something great like APEC, before SF will be forced to clean up their surroundings the garbage is outrageous, the homelessness is rampant, drug addicts everywhere have access to what needles they want, lawlessness causing many retailers to close up shop. The once beautiful SF no more.😢 The question is why do people own homes and live there and pay exorbitant property taxes? Duh?!
Be careful what you wish for. In San Jose, when the homeless are cleared from high visibility areas many times they end up in residential areas. Unhoused people are not going to simply evaporate. It’s better that they be in business districts than unseen just outside where you and your kids lay your heads. You go to and from your house with people outside just laying on the side walk who can watch your routines. Forget about ever getting a package delivered to your house. Water hoses and yards get used as showers when you’re away from home.
They're already in residential areas. The tenderloin/downtown sf is full of residents, children, schools and playgrounds. We're constantly surrounded by trash, drug use, unstable individuals having a drug induced psychosis. Maybe it would get better if these matters encroached on the richer/safer areas, because then there'd be more incentive to make changes. As it stands now, the city is fine with groups of men smoking meth and fentanyl in front of children, harassing residents, local businesses and throwing piles of trash wherever they go.
They are terrible to even look at
Packages stay on my porch for hours till i get home. Now its possible that if i went away for more than 2 days maybe not so much. However i love my little neighbor hood
Unhoused residents lolz
@lyndsay4153 it's called job security they get payed around $30 an hour to pick up garbage that's jus starting wage be there a year or two you will make double that
If we could get an army of bureaucrats touring our cities on a constant basis imagine how much cleaner our cities would be.
"There's a reason I don't go to shelters! I don't wanna get raped!"--A Belligerent Homeless Man I Used to See At Embarcadero Center
Well, especially women don‘t sleep at night or else they’ll be victimized by other homeless.
Politicians CAN fix these issues IF they want to BUT they don't want to. It's a way to ask for more tax money. 🤬
That guy Anthony is such a SHAME to the United States of America. A young and able man, living on the street on the "Land of Opportunities". I have no words for him.
It is his choice. There are opportunities. Those crowds at the border can confirm you that.
Land of opportunity to sell out the citizens as collagenized debt creditors. Opportunity to legally steal people's earned wages. List of opportunities goes on for days.
You're a part of the problem with thinking like that. The issue of homelessness is so incredibly complex due to there being a plethora of issues that got them there in the first place, that dumbing it down to "Why don't you pull up your bootstraps and get a job" narrative is in fact, making the issue worse.
I’m definitely not the guy to make up excuses but living in California is extremely expensive. I was almost homeless once too. I just got lucky that I found a family that allowed me to rent a place in their garage for $700 a month. If I was homeless it would be difficult to get a job and then it can continue to spiral down further from there. Thank goodness that chapter of my life is over.
The land of opportunity? Get a fking grip!
That Cody homeless person has NO BUSINESS living in SF. He is not a resident, he’s just hanging around. People come from all over the US to SF so they can live like bums, do the drugs they want and have no accountability for bills, mortgage, rent, etc. They need tough love. Either clean up or go to Jail then relocated to a more affordable city.
And they get paid (taxpayer money) around $680/mo and get food stamps. Not a bad deal for being a useless clump of cells.
They won't do that because society allows it.
@@RainesJade exactly
@@Adrian-op5ni Well what is the point of working when 60% of your income does on rent and commute to work? You are just working for the landlord at that point.
That "tough love" line is absolute bollox. I've worked with these people. Not in SF, but in other parts of CA. It boils down to three types of homeless people:
-Those that had jobs and a normal life, that lost everything
-Those that had mental illness
-Drug addicts that spent themselves beyond poor
The _majority_ of people that I worked with were from the first group. They gradually became members of the second (mentally ill) and third (drug addict) groups as time went on. You can't possibly comprehend the kind of emotional suffering a person goes through when they become homeless, when they were raised better and mentally expected to be better people. "Soul crushing" isn't even close. It's more like, you feel as though you fundamentally failed as a human being. The pain and distress they feel is backed up by how they're treated. "Cattle" comes to mind. Shelters are generally very dangerous or unhealthy. Two of the shelters in the area I worked in, had rampant lice and bedbugs, as well as violence between people that stayed there, and staff that treated them like dirt. Not one of the shelters in my area was free of major issues of some kind.
Gradually, the people from the first group get so ground down and desperate in their mindset, they either go mad and develop mental illness, or turn to drugs and alcohol to numb the pain, or (usually) both. Trying to exist like that, it changes a person not unlike going to prison. It's impossible to regain your footing once you slip that far. You can't get cleaned up and get clean, presentable clothes, a mailing address, or reliable transportation to be able to go back to work - you need a stable residence and some method of transportation for that. Getting a low-end job doesn't help in places like this, when rent is so expensive, either. So, without any way to generate income "the traditional way," these people start turning to panhandling and crime. Food Stamps don't really cover a full month's worth of food to begin with, unless - again - you have a place where you can cook your own food, and be able to store ingredients safely (even then, it's a stretch). There are places that give out food, but quantities are limited and it's first come, first serve. If you miss out, you probably don't have a way to get to the next place giving out free food before time runs out on that meal.
I'm not even going to go in to how homelessness is used by local and state governments to grift. I saw some of it, and I'm aware it happens. But, put simply, money spent on homeless programs generally sees less than ten cents on the dollar spent on the actual homeless people. This is another major issue - the people put in charge of the problem don't want to solve it, lest they work themselves out of a job.
You want to get a head on fixing the homeless problem? _Work to keep the people from the first category, from being homeless in the first place._ The number of pre-existing mentally ill and true drug fiends is fairly low - and I'm talking about those who let those two conditions cause their homelessness. Fix the people from the first category, the homeless situation will probably get reduced by 80% or more over time. Here's a few tricks that would help, if the people that were in charge, actually wanted to fix things:
-All elderly facing homelessness be put in assisted living facilities, period.
-No assistance of any kind to illegal immigrants
-People that are about to lose their homes, who are unemployed, be allowed to move to residential facilities with permanent fixed addresses, and assisted in finding jobs, then allowed to stay at these places until they can obtain their own residence
-Expand the low income housing assistance programs, and remove a few of the Federal rules in place, with vouchers going to those doing the step above. Not free housing, but subsidized, discounted housing - they still pay some of the rent, based on their income, and voucher assistance is based on continuing to build them up.
-Expand the food assistance programs to those trying to avoid homelessness, and those working to come back from homelessness. Remove the rules banning those attending college and vocational training from receiving benefits.
-Greatly expand government subsidies for energy costs, and create some additional programs to help those in danger of becoming homeless, pay their basic bills.
-Make the funding from these programs entirely blind - the recipients of the money in the end (landlords, utilities, grocery stores) should have no idea that these government subsidies are being used by the individual - this to cut down on grift and intentional program abuse by these groups to suck money from the government.
-Either expand public transportation and make it safer, or work with those in danger of being homeless to provide them with needed transportation to and from work.
Some places in the United States are, unfortunately, going to have hard working people on at least some of these programs forever. Costs of living are just too high. However, this helps move the onus from "hand outs" to "hand ups." The government will end up having to help people stay in homes, or get homes, that the people partially pay for. It's never going to get back to a point where it was 60+ years ago, when rent was cheap, utilities were cheap, and food was cheap. There's too many forces driving those prices upwards, while wages remain relatively stagnant. So, we have a choice, as a society: Help people stay in their homes, or in homes period.. or let them become homeless, and every unfortunate person who has some major expense happen suddenly, becomes a victim, and eventually homeless themselves. Far too many families have almost no cash reserve to cover sudden emergencies, and health issues costing insane amounts of money are one of the leading causes. Once they have a disaster, that's it for them - they're homeless and on the streets, and eventually, degenerate into madness and substance abuse to take the pain away.
Homeless: We shall return!
Dang I thought Xi would have been able to see how weak his enemy is by looking at the absolute dystopian dump that San Francisco is.
They already know about it.
Be sure to have a followup report after a month goes by
but don't bother if the report is as soft-hitting as this one
It’s amazing how the government there let’s the homeless and dirtiness and drugs fester and that’s considered “normal”
Seattle did this same thing when it hosted the All Star baseball game this last summer. Looked like shit for a long time and hearing all the same excuses about the homeless, drug addition issues and of course a high spike in crime and boom All Star game comes and like magic the area is clean and repainted. Both cities should be ashamed.
Its people! Soylent Green is people!
They were not asked, they were told at gun point to relocate or be relocated. The government was not going to take no for an answer. Now they will post guards and barriers to keep the non rich out of this rich persons sanctuary district. Disrespectful of peoples rights.
Bingo exactly, it was all apart of the social cleansing agenda which we discussed on our channel on here.
We went to SF from uk in 2016 for Christmas and New Year…..we had a great time, but would never visit SF again until the US homeless issues are cleared up
They still did'nt provide PROOF of where these people are.
Matter of fact the one homeless man they talked to seemed.. ok I'm not stereotyping homeless people but that man struck me as well not homeless and planted just for that interview...
Like the president of China does not know there’s an issue there with homelessness. At least the people who lives there has a chance to see the city is actually beautiful.
With our drugs and shit everywhere
this is like the toxic parent who treats you like dirt and doesn't care about your own feelings, and ONLY cares how you look towards strangers.
It is not until BIG money and BIG politicians come to talk, and... all of the international press shows up that the problems of homelessness on city streets are addressed/removed. Perhaps every major city block in every major city in California should have a major economic conference. Then... the police, under the direction of the FBI, can finally have justification and cooperation of state and local politicians to act. Granted, this did not solve the homeless problem. It only moved them down the road. How-ev-er, if you move them far enough, they will actually end up in a real campsite with fresh air, clean water, toilet facilities. JUST SAYING...
They will be back on Monday
When China hosted the Olympics way back when they forced the factories to partial shutdown so Beijing wouldn't be smog city.
And when the games were over they went right back to being grossly polluted rather than stay healthy and livable.
Its kinda like cleaning up your apartment before you have a date over. Tents are gonna pop back up like mushrooms after a rain.
Not the same thing. Homelessness is a human rights issue.
Homelessness impinge on my human rights to exist without constant looking over to see if there is another homeless person, and smell and see the disgusting things that take place on the streets.
Urine.
Feces.
Drug use.
Violence.
Garbage, literally, figuratively.
No. You should not have the right to live anywhere you want and just make everyone else put up with it. Not a human right to shit on the street.
homelessness in SF is literally a substance abuse issue that no one wants to deal with@@nmew6926
@@nmew6926this is drug addiction not homelessness. Stop gaslighting
Rent is so outrageous not many can afford it. Why can't more tiny homes and low-income housing be built? No one should be out in the streets!
Why not just lower the rent
They were pushed up the hills into residential areas. I’ve seen tents places I’ve never seen them before. Also, I haven’t seen a single meter demon since APAC began. Must be coincidental.
Drugs is the biggest reason for homeless.
miracle right?!. its all are games. politic. Money
they aren't planter boxes, they are feeding troughs for cows.
Don't worry about it. Eat your Soylent Green.
Homelessness should be BANNED. There should be more shelters and more programs to help people find jobs and housing. Drug addicts, alcoholics and mentally ill should be admitted to treatment programs where they are cared and provided for. Nobody has a RIGHT to live drunk/drugged and ruin the streets and safety of those who pay taxes and work hard for a living. Homelessness is not for human beings!
I know folks see this as “oh look. They can fix the homeless problem. Look what they did here and why won’t they just do this everywhere.” If we were a dictator society, this is what you’re all speaking positive on. I question how many civil liberties they’ve violated in the process of clearing out these streets which will just fill up again. I’m all for getting the homeless off the streets but not at the actions of any executive branch of our governments.
It’s interesting a new ऽhelter with 300 beds wasn’t opened until the EXACT day APE८ started. In the past, po।ic६ department couldn’t move unhouऽed off sidewalks, but now somehow po।ice were allowed to move them for ८onference?
its interesting cause many past news reports were that there was a lot of empty space in the homeless shelters since the homeless didnt want to go to them due to mandatory rules of not allowing them to use drugs. now they needed 300 more beds
Yep. And who paid for the beds - and the red carpet for SF’s Red Masters?
Apparently placing pretty little flower planters violates city code. Meanwhile 30 tents on a block, filled with feces and needles, that block the entire sidewalk somehow doesn’t violate a single city code. I remember a word cities used to use and fine citizens with called “loitering” but I guess that doesn’t exist anymore.
Why is this a surprise? The world knows we are just pretending to have compassion and common sense.
This is terrible. Pick one of these lame cliches we here all the time: We need to “vote”, “sign useless and meaningless petitions”, “attend town halls”, “hold dog and pony show hearings”, “sue”, “pass more laws” (which will never be enforced), “propose new bills” “work with the other side”, “form committees of bureaucrats ”,
“peacefully protest”, “win court cases”, “contact our elected officials”, “follow the constitution”, “follow the rule of law” ,“work in a bipartisan fashion”, “recall politicians”, “censure politicians” Yes! that will really STOP and CRUSH these commies that have usurped the USA. (Sarcasm emphasized)
Liberal smoke & mirrors.
“Experiencing homelessness’ why do they say it like that? It’s got a weird feeling to it when said that way. It’s clearly an enormous problem, but I feel it’s bigger and way beyond just an experience for these people.
if you make a new word for it, the problem doesn't exist anymore, welcome to Left-speak
Way to go California Outta sight Outta mind making Americans proud😢
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I think we should do that idea that little mustache man had a few decades ago... but this time the math will make sense.
So why do we need APEC to clean up? Stop this reporting and go after the Governor who clearly dont care. He is the reason.
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To be able to have cleaner and safer streets and environment, all cities in America should invite Xi over to visit.
What a sham...newsom such a crook
But the ladies on 'The View" think he is soooooooooooooooooo handsome. I guess that is all that counts now days in Politics.
@Rovingdog628 Newsom still a crook
@Rovingdog628 and that mayor is garbage...
@iworkout6912 the view. Hahahaa..right?...thet show all they do is talk about trump..I never seen a show that all they do is talk about one guy..
Now that the APAC Hollywood movie set has been taken down, the residents can return to life as usual, tents, shopping carts, stolen cars and bicycles, and RVs included.
That city is an embarrassment to allow drugs and crime to flourish while the taxpayer pays for that mess, I hate the homeless.
True, though, imo, leaders should stop visiting other countries - especially war zones - if all they’re going to do is take photo ops. And why not do the talks over Zoom? Why do pols and elites have to fly everywhere?
If they want to live like this. Designate some land in the middle of no where and let them develop a commune. Once they are out strictly enforce panhandling and sleeping on street rules. Eventually people will get the signal that you can’t be homeless in the city limits. I’m not sure why people want to have the freedom to live like this and why advocacy groups fight to keep people living on the streets it’s the most inhumane thing you could do like feeding stray cats. You are not making their life better you are prolonging misery.
I think the land you're referring to is called portland
literally the only reason why they will stay on streets as opposed to free housing is the independent ability and privilege to use illegal drugs. are yall that naive? why do you think when you offer them food they refuse, yet when you offer cigarettes, money, or drugs, they take it like a fat kid accepting a slice of cake?
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@@BenWilson24Correction...You meant "Portlandia" lol
In fact, many of them were living in fairly remote and sparsely populated parts of the city, under freeways and the like. A lot of them preferred to live by their own rules. But the city actually pushed them out of those places and closer and closer to the cities center, which is where they are now, in the most densely populated part of the city.
I have grown up in the SF Bay Area, don't go to SF anymore. It's a shame, was once a fantastic city. I know several friends that have moved out and all that did, loved doing so. I suppose it will hit a boiling point and when it does, will be too late. But heah, Gavin did a great job as Mayor and now he's the 'ol Gov. Maybe we should all think twice before voting next time around. Or pass a bill to actually have Police arrest thieves and burglars and petty crime and re-enforce vagrancy laws. Why don't we start there?
Just imagine getting warehoused in one of these “shelters” with all of these good people…
I know a few people in the Castro who have said the homeless population grew a lot in the last month.
The real solution to this is to have housing first programs like Finland did to end their extreme homelessnes crisis
SFPD had form 10-12 person group patrols walking together down the APEC street locations to make sure everything is perfect! They go down both sides of the street so that 20-24 officers going down both streets at the same time. Great move! Nobody going to fool around with them!😮
Experiencing homelessness?’ Welcome to 1984 and doublespeak.😂
The city needs to copy and paste the Secret Service perimeter and expand it. Use community outreach workers as the barriers and use that tax money towards rehab centers.
Rehab does not work. Work camps with medicsl facilities and barbed wire, like China has.
@Rovingdog628 because folks voted blue? So it's time to face the music. Unless you didn't vote blue then my condolence.
@Rovingdog628 Because it is cheaper than you, the taxpayer, pay for their endless trips to jails and emergency rooms.
The secret service didn't clear the encampments.
@Rovingdog628 Why should poor people pay sales tax to fix your streets when they dont even own a car?
*Where do they get money for Spray paint if they are Homeless?*
They swept people.undet the carpet. Praying the addicted want help and gets that help and off the streets 🙏🚴🏽♀️❤
“people experiencing homelessness”
Our language is done.
Not every homeless person is on drugs or have mental health problems some people just fall on hard times
Politicians get rich on perpetuating the homeless “crisis.” They aide in addition and psychosis!!!!
Zombies(fentanyl addicts) as well coming back to their previous spots🙃
Watch what you eat 😮
They should hold on APEC Summit every month
We are a 6 figure income couple and had very little saved and not much cash lying around the preverbal".
'...don't have $500 for an
emergency" that was us. The big thing was debt all kinds of it, cars mortgage (although our home isn't a high price one), student loans for our kids, and of course credit cards.
One day we just got sick of being broke and went total scorched earth and became frugal overnight. Paid it all off, it took almost 5 years but now we have no debt and this year our savings rate is 50% on basically the same income that had us perpetually broke. So for us it is mainly staying out of debt and watching our spending, at first it was a real effort to save in our HISA and 401Ks but now it's actually fun watching our money grow. No car or vacation or neighborhood is worth being broke or financially unstable.
Facing your medicine can be difficult. However, with commitment, you'll ultimately reach a highly satisfying place. It's all about the actions you're willing to take.
Don’t worry SF Supervisors and the Mayor will complain about those cattle troughs….. just imagine how much $$$ activist were paid not to complain…. Back to normal next week…
So correct!!! London Breed is the worst thing that ever happened to San Francisco.
@7clocker also too that's not forget that Gavin Newsom is the worst thing that ever happened to California !!!!!!!!. . . .
I am literally repulsed whenever I see London Breed’s face - the lies, the lies, the lies, the policies that she supports that has made life a pain in the ass for everyone. Just go away. Re election? Really? You think you did for the city? You have ruined the city. Shame on you.
I been asking where are they?
Me too
Yes, why is it such a secret?
@Rovingdog628 yes, I do care. I have a child living down there. She refused to come home. I have done to kook fit her and beg her t come to Texas...this is heartbreaking for me....
In other news:
McSlopholes has announced the limited time reintroduction of their famous McRib sandwich.
“Get yours now, it tastes like home”(less)
Anyone want to take a guess on when the streets will be back to the way it was?
Two weeks
If you absolutely need to move someone overnight, call San Francisco City Hall.
If Cody got off drugs he'd be so much happier and successful in life. Why has Cody given up already!? He's still young and healthy enough to make it if he'd just stop pumping himself with that demon fuel! Don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, I was demon fueled for over 10 years, in and out of jails and prisons, stealing and otherwise being the Devil's tool. The memories are like remembering a movie I'd seen of somebody else's life.
Congratulations for getting clean! 🙂. I am proud of you.
Why has Cody given up? Because it's easier.
This city has it's own department of homelessness. Says it all. I wonder what the salaries of the government city hacks working in that department.
Their salaries consume 98% of the funds promised to the homeless. That's where the money went.
Does this mean Democrats can’t 💩 on the sidewalks after APEC has left town
They will
theyll shit everywhere else
So its not ok for business owners to put up large objects on the sidewalk in order to keep the tents from going up in front of their stores but its ok for the city to install planters to do the same?
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So no APEC no effort from our “elected” officials paid by our tax $ 😮😮
@Rovingdog628 These “elected” officers don’t anything, just taking our tax $ and play politics all day long…where China’s politicians have lifted 800 million people (more than twice of U.S. population) out of poverty. Now, U.S. is full of homelessness, crime and drug issues.
no homeless= no non-profits= less voters for dems. Everyone must serve the MACHINE.
They care more about the foreigners than SF residents.
china owns america. wake up
Relax its returning very soon
This was the question I was looking for since this started
There are 3 types of homelessness. 1. Drug addicts 2. Mental Illness 3. Lost job or job can't afford a place to live. Now you can only help 1 of the 3 types. The other 2 are beyond helps.
agreed
Help those who wants to be helped. Free shelter must be only for those who have any work and need help in housing.
Drug addicts should have thought twice before touching drugs