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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.พ. 2024
- The San Francisco Center, Formerly Westfield Center, used to be a shopping destination for all of Northern California. Today, a lot has changed. So I spend the day there to see what it's really like. Is it still amazing? Is it unbelievably boring? What does someone do if they're spending the entire day in the mall?
And most importantly, will I meet some new friends along the way.
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If they turned most of it into apartments this would be a crazy cool village
probably a bitcoin mining facility. that way the city can make $... cause this aint cutting it
could def do with a more accessible housing market
The SF mayor wants to turn it into a soccer stadium, when their homeless population is booming and affordable housing is nonexistent in their city. These people are out of their minds. Absolutely, turn it into apartments. This is like a no brainer to everyone but the idiots in charge.
Nope, you’re in the center of the homeless areas it would be a terrible location
@@2SmooveFr here's an idea! lock the doors haha
I used to spend an entire day at this mall with my friends when I was in High School. We would hang out eating croissants under the dome, see a movie and go shopping at United Colors of Benetton.
There were some high school age kids hanging out at the mall for most of the day when I was there too. But they were sitting at a table in the food court mostly on their phones.
Those days were long gone...
Remember Blondie’s Pizza & Rasputin Records?!
I was working at Benetton on opening day back in 1988 or so. Was the most amazing mall bragging to have the largest spiral escalator.
Same! they should take a note from Stonestown and turn it into a giant food court.
I went to this mall just 5 years ago and it was very crowded and bustling, relatively speaking that was not that long ago. I am in shock!
It's a really different area of SF post pandemic.
@@AdamDoesNotExist A big part of that is that so many office workers continued to work from home after the pandemic, so the downtown area never recovered the lunch hour and after-work traffic from locals. It can't survive on just tourists. Friday at 5 pm, the streets are empty when 5 years ago they would be bustling with people getting out of work, getting a drink or dinner after work, starting their weekend. Now all those people are in their pajamas on their couch.
Me too visited from Sydney 🇦🇺 Australia in September 2022 and it was super busy
Shame to see what has happened great spot there
dead malls are just one symptom of a society in free fall. the economy is great, inflation is lowering, and crime isn't rising, the state spokesperson and lap dog media will tell you. it's a humiliation ritual. you can see it's not true with your own eyes, but the greater the disparity between observable truth and the "official" truth, the more they feel in control.
Truly heartbreaking. The memories I have attached to this mall are priceless.
I hope it comes back!
@@AdamDoesNotExistI doubt it ! Although malls across North America are going the way of the dinosaur 🦕 let’s not brush aside why they’re closing and that’s because of retail theft ! And the fact that there’s no consequences for it ! 🤷🏻♂️
or cheap ?
@@AdamDoesNotExist It will! But it will likely be luxury retailers that have relocated and converted the smaller stores. There are several shopping centers in the Bay area that have seen this. Mid-market retail shopping is dead. Have you been in a Best Buy lately?
@@MrManflyMalls were dying before ORT became a thing.
I arrived in San Francisco in 1981 at the age of 21 and for next twenty years, San Francisco was my home. I loved it dearly. The City offered this high school graduate enough job opportunities to afford my own apartment, good friends and fun times. Then suddenly everything changed and I was feeling really financially squeezed out. I left in 2001 for New Hampshire, but the hold The City had on me never let go. I am so glad I left earlier than most. I never had to witness everything tearing San Francisco apart with my own eyes. I still have uncorrupted memories of the place I still love. This clip was just so sad.
Thanks Democrats!
@cherylrichard3059 illegals now get higher living standards thanks to Biden.
@@ja01975 guess I'll take the bait.
Dems aren't fixing the place, but if you don't think big silicon valley money and an unwillingness to fund housing solutions (omg, that's socialism!!!!) arem't also responsible, then you aren't paying attention.
The common denominator behind the shittiest politicians isn't party, it's accepting rich peoples' money. The citizen's united ruling was a fucking mistake. Lobbying is bribery.
The reason why this mall is dead because San Francisco refuses to cleanup the city and enforce crime.
I lived in SF from 86 to 89…. I could survive in the city with 2 part time jobs and going to SF State. I think today this impossoble.
I worked at this Bloomingdales from 2019-2023. The change was immeasurable after the pandemic, nothing was the same. I’m glad I left and am on to bigger and better things.
Good Luck to you! This is exactly what the guy outside said to me. Tourism in SF is far from what it was pre pandemic.
Before COVID this place was thriving. I went about 6 months ago because i was in the area and omg was i shocked at the condition of this mall. Completely insane how dead the mall got in just a few short years.
"I'm counting them as friends." As someone who was born in San Francisco and spent my youth in the Bay Area, I love this:)
Haha, thank you!!
True story - during Pride a few years ago this mall had a promotion at a kiosk (ran by some fabulous drag queens) where you scratch off a card to potentially win something, and my card said $500. I thought maybe it meant like $500 off an expensive store or something, but no, it was $500 in a VISA gift card, given to me on the spot!
When I moved here in 1990 this was definitely a destination point! Two underground lines stopped here and the stores in it were great! Emporium was still around then and the Nordstrom Cafe with the overhead domed windows was a great spot to eat - especially on a rainy day! Around last Christmas I came over here and didn't realize so much had closed since I basically got tired of the nastier crowds that hung around the area since the late 90s! Very sad!
It's really cool to hear about those days. Hopefully they return!
It's really cool to hear about those days. Hopefully they return!
@@AdamDoesNotExist I lived in SF in the early 90s also. People forget that NYC was almost bankrupt in the late 1970s. These historical cities will rise again.
Malls in California don't offer the one major advantage that they do in other areas of the world; an escape from absolutely miserable weather. Ever go to a mall in Indonesia? They're amazing, and filled with people because it's 95 degrees and 85% humidity outside.
100%. I've gone to malls for that reason alone.
but it did. When it was cold, foggy, gloomy, and gray outside in the Bay Area. The mall was the place to hang out at.
It was lit up, lively with all the people, and the hot mall food to warm you up.
To me, it's considered a huge problem if the LEGO store has to close. Which there was one there, and it's last day of business was nov. 30, 2023.
Considering the mall guards also have to spend the whole day (and every working day) in the mall they would also be bored out of their mind.
And I think that expelling the mall rats means less business for the food outlets, and the mall becomes just a bunch of shops, so you go to the one you plan to go to and then leave. This means the restaurants close, making it harder for people to spend any significant time there.
There is a reason why every IKEA has a reasonably prized restaurant in the middle.
Of course the death of mall culture can be either good or bad depending on what people do instead.
I saw security talking to a few people who didn't seem to have good intentions, but in general they didn't have a ton to do on this specific day. Though I do know there have been some very busy days for the security team!
It's funny how we built these places explicitly to attract people to hang out and buy things, but when people hang out and buy things in a certain way then "Ewww, get them out of here! They're making me feel slightly gross while I shop for my expensive things! I'm ever so slightly more aware of the tenuousness of my position in the middle class! Hisssss, get them away from meeeee!"
US culture is a fucking trip when you're not immersed in it.
Can you afford living in SF on a Mall Guard salary? Or do they live at the mall?
@@ThePathbauer Most likely not. They might not even live in the "Bay Area", but Bay Area adjacent.
The last time i went here, it was filled with ppl and it was a year ago, but now its dead? Wth
Ikr im tripping
I think it's the lack the fun stores, most malls use to have. An arcade games center, a pet shop, a music store, a toy store, a poster store,
a hobby store, etc. Obviously, the birth of online stores didn't help either. The theft sprees of course made them feel unsafe.
It's a combination of many things, with each mall having its unique challenges.
But of course I also think, it's also way passed its era.
I would agree the theft and crime in the area is what causing people not to go at downtown. I remember back then it was a good hangout and walk around just to get out the house.
As a high schooler, this mall gave me a lot of memories, it's a shame it's turned into this. I remember seeing Pirates at World's End at that exact movie theater and we waited for the start time at the borders bookstore just a floor below.
Another good video. As a SF Native I've been to this mall many times including its movie theater. It's such a beautiful modern mall.
I'm so saddened by how fast it has fallen. I'm even more irritated by how some people lie about this mall being unsafe when it's one of the safest places to be. In all of the times I've visited, not once did I ever feel unsafe.
In my opinion Westfield or San Francisco Centre is a much safer place than that part of Oakland you visited in your previous video.
I'm hopeful of its revival in the future.
Oh this mall along with many other malls in the SF area are NOT safe. There are plenty of gang fighting, smash and grab activities in these malls. Just do a quick google search and u will see.
The old mall is safe, but walking to the 5th & Mission parking garage or getting on Powell St. BART/MUNI is risky and dangerous.
@bvincesf From my experiences walking to and from the Powell St Station is mostly *not* dangerous.
Matter a fact I was there yesterday, and it *wasn't* even close to being unsafe. Though occasionally there are some undesirable people, but not unsafe for the most part.
Born and raised in San Francisco. Still live here. It safe, motherfuckers are just soft now.
@@bvincesf My daily commute includes that stop and I never see anything happening. Maybe during the late night you could be right, but if you're going to this mall nothing should happen.
The reality is : Malls are dying everywhere in the Us....
That mall was busy and moderately of people and stores when I was visited in 2021, so it’s sad to see what was a nice place be so empty.
I remember when they opened the "new" extension side. The "new" extension used to be a department store called the Emporium. It's the part with the food court in the bottom. It was amazing. Lots of local food stalls and also a fancy Bristol Farms market down there. Increasing crime and the pandemic was the nail in the coffin.
It’s come a long way since then
Bristol Farms closed back in 2017 long before the pandemic & crimemongering even existed
When I moved to the SF Bay Area, I loved having Bristol Farms downtown and was amazed by the busy foot traffic. S.F. now resides in Europe. The streets are busy, the transportation is great, and you have stores large and small in the city centre. America is in decline and there is no denying it.
That Bristol Farms was incredible. First stop right after getting out of Powell Station
I loved the grocery store and the mechelin star restaurant on the 4th floor, I believe in the new “expansion”. Theft and the pandemic is partly to blame. We the people are far more responsible for what is happening around the world with all these closures, we sacrificed these places for the luxury of convenience. Living on our phones and never having to leave the house to pay bills, order food, banking, etc. it is our own fault in the name of progress. 😢
What a shame to see such an icon of a mall closing up. So many of our huge malls in Vancouver, Canada have unfortunately met the same demise. Great video!!
man i remember 2014 this place was hella busy
I remember avoiding the area in 2019 because it was so busy!
Ughhh i wanna go back
I shopped in this mall as a teen and then worked in this mall 2008-2009.. shocked to see how downhill it’s gone.. it was booming back then. Sad.
Part of the situation with this mall is that traditional malls in general are struggling. The sorts of stores that they used to attract, especially their anchors, have almost all imploded in recent years, from Lord and Taylor to Sear's. Even those that have survived with physical stores worth in quantities worth mentioning thus far, like JC Penny and Macy's, are in real trouble, and nothing has necessarily emerged to replace them. As such, it is really difficult for malls to survive much of anywhere. Even some in busy locations with strong policing are seeing a notable emptiness.
Totally. They've tried to attract luxury tenants, but this area in general isn't much of a shopping destination any more.
Go 80 miles south, same brand's mall, the Westfield/Santana Row in San Jose is booming. Massive crowds all the time. So looks like you're wrong.
In all the states malls just aren't getting the people that they used to. We can blame Amazon, Walmart and other big box stores for that I guess. YT bloggers have made countless videos of dead, dying, malls. Some of the malls aren't really that old, but as someone said here, the mall anchors are pretty much all gone now. Always wondered who put in all those gumball machines and vibrating lounge chairs you see in every mall. Tried a gum ball, and it tasted like it had been there for a long, long time.
Solid video, I should probably visit this mall since I'm pretty close to a BART station now. I usually visit Chinatown and a couple of other places in SF, but never really stopped by the Westgate Center for as long as I've been in the bay area.
Very fun video! Nice work. The dead mall community has a typical posting style and format that most channels offer. Your style is a great change of pace away from the common dead mall vids. 🎉🎉🎉
Thank you! I didn’t even realize there was a dead mall community. Glad you liked the video
Now you have the perfect training for a Dead Rising scenario
Oh no. I remember going to this mall maybe a year ago. It was pretty active but didn’t expect it to go down the drain like this.
I was there a few months ago. It wasn't Dead. There were not as my people as before the Rona but definitely wasn't dead. It's gets packed on weekends!
The last time i was there was in late 90's. The mall had a lot of people shopping back in the day. Im really shocked to see this now.
So was I!
Confucius says: "if the stores aren't open, the criminals can't shoplift"
I worked at the Century/Cinemark theater in that mall from when it opened in Fall 2006 to when it closed on March 17th, 2020 due to the pandemic. I never went back even when it reopened in 2021, and was surprised that it closed so suddenly in July 2023 (right before "The Flash" opened that weekend) Oh well..
I guess it's tough competing with the Metreon? The AMC on Van Ness closed pretty abruptly too.
I was visiting the week that Nordstrom closed, and it was certainly an experience. Nordstrom was open but completely bare and selling only their displays and furnishings. Had a very similar experience walking around. The theater had already closed too leaving that entire upper floor empty and silent.
Many, many years ago I believe that glass dome was the inside of what used to be the old Emporium Department Store. I remember when that galleria first opened with Nordstrom at the very top. It was a lovely place to be. In my youth I'd go there frequently with both family and friends. So many happy memories made. During the holidays especially when SF was still safe and bustling with tourists & locals alike. Breaks my heart to see how it is now. How I miss the good ole days.
There's that many security guards because of how much theft there was at the mall prior. It's been like that throughout most malls in California unfortunately.
Last time I was at the Westfield Center was back in 2016 and it was really bustling. Moved away before the pandemic, but still sad to see the direction the city is going.
There are other malls that are still alive in the Bay Area. This was one that was easy to steal from. You dont want to know what the Metreon Target is like just a block away. Rampet theft and everything is locked up. Its not just the pandemic foot traffic that killed it. Im so glad I moved away when I did. I'll never forget the fond memories of what this city used to be.
I would take personal days there in college in the late 90s. It was packed. So sad to see such desolation. Great memories
Honestly not a bad place to take personal days now! But the experience will be quite different.
This was a great video and I'm surprised at the sub count. Just here to say, I was here before Adam made it big! It's only a matter of time if you keep pumping videos like this out
Thank you! This means a lot to me!
"This is exactly the same . . ." LOL!
Remember when it was packed. I used to go to that salon.. it used to be so crowded..
This was back in 2012-2016
It has changed quite a bit!
Kids are the blame for the malls being empty. They dont go out anymore. Just stay home and play games.
it is crazy to see this mall as a dead mall after having spent so many years shopping here as a local
Amazon killed malls and retail. Pandemic put the finishing touches.
I’m from a different era , that mall didn’t exist when I was a child in 1971. Woolworths was across the street from said mall and that was the destination for us.
I love watching the videos of Market street from that time. It's so intersting to see how much has changed, and how many landmarks haven't changed at all!
When there's that much security at a mall, you DO NOT want to visit it. Security at every store would indicate that it is needed and not a coincidence. That means high crime area. The malls in my city do not have such security. In fact, these malls have almost no security and no store is locked during mall hours. That's a normal mall in America.
I still go to the mall where I live, and they are fun to hang out in, and you still see alotta life☆ great video btw!!
Thank you!!!
wow, I lived in SFO since 2014 and just recently moved out last December of 2023 to Reno, ever since after Covid San Francisco just went down drastically.
If you spend a whole day in a dead mall, well then, it's on you.
There used to be so many good restaurants and fancy ones at that too on that 4th level/dome area. I’ve lived in SF since 2012 and I am in shock every single day about the decline in this city. People just don’t get it. It’s how you vote! Please don’t vote the same because it’ll only get worse!!! Please try to save San Francisco!!! It used to be a fun, thriving and gorgeous city we all used to love so much! This is beyond depressing.
Worked here from 2015 till 2018. Went back a few after the pandemic and it was a night and day difference from what I was used to. There were signs of it dying back then, but the pandemic really brought about a lot issues that were hiding under the surface
Lovely.
How many stores are still open? How many stores does the mall have?
i really liked this video!!♥️ i miss california so much, especially SF! moving to the east coast makes me appreciate california more :(
Glad you liked it!!
Man, I remember. When I was 16 years old, my brother took me here, they had a lot of people. Now it’s not the same no more 😔
Great job!
Being a teenager in the 80's. I remember malls as depicted in the movie Fast Times at Ridgmont High. Malls was where we socialized.
Such a classic!
Meanwhile, Westfield Valley Fair in Santa Clara is POPPING
I used to go here all the time as a kid and throughout highschool. Its really sad to see how deserted it is. So many good memories :
I live close to the Westfield Mall in Escondido-San Diego California. It has a JC Penneys open, Target and many stores. It does also have a closed Nordstroms, Sears, Fitch, Souplantation, Hallmark & Yankee Handle. The place is dead most of the day, but at nights and weekends, it's fairly busy. The mall was just sold to a group from LA. They want to integrate additional retail, entertainment, dining and theater options. They had a Costco planned, but Costco pulled out at the last moment.
You should go there on a Saturday, and run the same test!
Once the movie theater closes? That mall is officially dead. The existing anchor stores will pull out because of lost nightly foot traffic from the theaters and get replaced by lower-tier anchor stores, now getting much more favorable rent terms just to get the space filled but then they all leave too and that's the end. It's a process that's repeating itself across America since internet shopping really took off in 2005 and if what's happened at the other failed malls is any indication? You're standing in a future parking lot right now. 😆
I work here!!! Dang I would have loved to talk to you physically there.
No way! What do you do there? I would have loved to put you in the video. I’ve made a bunch of videos in SF so maybe I’ll stop by again some time. I’m still pretty afraid to ask to film people. It’s almost always a no.
That’s actually insane. I remember going to this mall every time I went to SF from Sac. I haven’t gone in years but seeing its state now makes me sad 😢
Crazy! I remember when it was Westfields. Working as a security guard nearby, I would walk over to grab food.
I was in San Francisco the summer of 2022 for my friends wedding and I was at the mall. I loved the spiral escalator.
That escalator is so cool! So is the dome upstairs.
@@AdamDoesNotExist Guess, you got over your fear of escalators
There are very few spiral escalators installed across the United States (six locations). These were the first! The only other spiral escalators I’ve been on were in the Bloomberg headquarters in NYC.
I went there years ago and it was crowded! I am so sad what happened now. I hope malls can make a comeback.
I don’t know what kind of lease agreement GNC has, but they are usually one of the launch day merchants, and they are always one the last tenants to stay open often until the mall doors lock forever
Stonestown Mall at edge of town is busy and lively serving the locals. For this mall to bounce back tourism and office workers need to return to the area.
I've eaten a lot of Udon at Stonestown!
with friends, we'd have so much fun here , running around and looking in stores would be so entertaining. it's empty which is eery but we would have a blast fooling around
Feels a little misleading. To my knowledge, Westfield packed up and left at the end of 2023. They likely wouldn't have renewed any leases, which would result in a lot of empty retail spaces. I think as ownership fully transfers and they're able to start filling the retail spaces, the mall can revitalize pretty quickly. As others have mentioned, Stonestown is doing pretty well, coming out of the pandemic. If the formerly Westfield mall focuses on enhancing safety measures, I believe it has the potential to be just as successful as Stonestown.
I’ve been coming there with my dad and sisters since I was a kid, I remember how crowded it was once. The emptiness makes me feel…very sad. It’s the same with Tanforan mall.
I had no clue this place was even dying. The last time I was there was back in 2015 around Christmas time, and this place was PACKED
I'm sure it picks up around Christmas, but it probably isn't like you remember.
the dome was so pretty during the holidays!! ❤🥹
I went to this mall in 2019, before the pandemic hit, with my friends on vacation and it was pretty bustling. There were benches and seating with tables where the dome section was at from what I remember. Kinda sad to watch it so empty.
Man every time I go there I feel like it’s too many people in the mall
I grew up here in the Bay Area by SF and worked in that mall for many years and that is a shadow of what it use to be like even on a Monday, sad
My family used to very much enjoy coming to the the Westfield Mall, omg. The dining area was above average, so much variety. I'm sad it's closing. Retail theft is the main culprit.
i spent alot of my teenage days at this mall, was sweet on a girl who loved just hanging at the rotunda and chilling out, enjoying whatever holiday displays they had going.
I used to walk through this mall every day on the way to/from work. I'd get off at the BART station in the basement and catch a shuttle right outside the mall. Sad to see what the pandemic did to the area.
This video is so cool. It definitely feels like there is a difference even from when I went in 2022 and now in 2024, unfortunate to see. Crazy how many stores were there in 2022 that are now gone
Thank you!
Good. They had skunk sized rats at the italian spot by the bathrooms and when I pointed it out while grabbing my plate all they had to say was "that's Henry"
I remember taking Bart out to the city to hang there. Always looked forward to seeing my homies in the city! crazy how it is now.
It's a different feeling in mid market. Everywhere else is about the same.
i used to go there a lot after work when i lived there and it was always busy. it was still very busy when i left. so sad.
I think I remember going to this mall a lot as a kid in the 90s. I only sorta remember it, but it used to be so cool.
That’s crazy that used to be packed all the time I came there smh how time flies and things changes around you ❤🎉
Seeing this really hurts. I used to live off Leavenworth & Polk and would go to some of the restaurants in the food court. They actually had some really good places to eat and not just your usual mall chains. It used to be a very busy place. IIRC, Borders bookstore was at the very top, and they had a small Newstand satellite store on the bottom.
This used to be my first stop when coming in to San Francisco. Grabbing a bite to eat in the underground food court and picking out some specialty truffles afterward. If you're still in the area, you should check out Hillsdale Mall in San Mateo next. I couldn't believe how empty it was when I went there a few weeks ago even though it looks like they recently spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on renovations.
You can get on the roof, but you have to go what essentially is "next door" to the mall and take an elevator up. There is a desk and they prolly have you "sign in" as it is an office building. It is a public parklet space on the roof above the dome.
I've got to check that out!
I remember when this mall reopened, circa 2006 - it looks like it has gone back to near what it used to be, decades of nothing. Initially it was an old beautiful department store that left decades ago. The restoration and reopening was very hyped up and it lived up to the hype. They tried to keep the architecture, most importantly the domes intact. They did a fantastic job. The upscale grocery store near the food court was a favorite. There was a beautiful restaurant, Michelin Star rated on the 4th floor I believe. I ate there often, The crowds, especially on the weekends were hectic. I preferred to go on weekdays during the day, even at the time it was crowded. Lots of fine stores - not just the high end brands that you see everywhere now. The security and locked stores is horrible however that is happening worldwide. Such a shame. Lunch at Nordstrom often. Spent a fortune at this amazing mall. I would take all my family and friends from interstate and international to go experience it. San Francisco was on 🔥 when this mall opened in 2006 for a good ten plus years. I hope this mall comes back to life. I noticed Gunps came back. Another beautiful high end department store - they left around 2016 or so I believe but they are back. Hopefully more will follow. Unfortunately I doubt it though, we have all contributed to this, worldwide, we sacrificed these amazing places for convenience. We all live on our phones, buy online. We never need to leave the house anymore. Banks are disappearing - no need for them anymore. All online - So, we are all to blame for this new dystopian empty urban decay.
I always loved going to that mall. I haven't been there in a few years, maybe about 10 years, but it's a shame that it looks so 'dead'!!
I opened the Nordstrom at the mall. Fun fact there are some secret rooms at the top with balconies to observe the shoppers. Scary high up
That's so cool! I love a secret employees only room.
Hiya Brother Adam 👨🏼
Sad too see what happening over there.Many great famous store's in the malls is closed down. Such a modern mall.
This mall remind me of Zombie 80's movies ( Dawn Of The Dead and Night Of The Comet) i hope you have seen them.
In Malaysia we also have few new malls which is closed/ empty.
Great video by the video
My guy! Thank you! I agree, this would be a great set for a zombie movie.
@@AdamDoesNotExist 🤗 you are welcome.
Thank you agree with me sir
I did my grad degree in this place from 2016-2019. SFSU occupied one of the upper floors for some of its grad programs. I remember going to this place after work to take night classes and it was so busy! Kinda sad to see what it has become.
Truly a different time
This mall is absolutely or was as stunning and gorgeous as the ones in Paris or Berlin…. Back in the 80s during the holiday probably one of the most breathtaking scene… Unfortunately, I dont see it ever going back to it former self…. Society is indifferent… technology has completely turned the malls upside down and annihilated what it all used to be
During the holidays that food court is usually packed
There is a reason. There is a plan for the city. Getting all the stores out. Get rid of downtown and the freeways.
Hi, great video! I have great memories of this mall, especially getting confused with the spiral escalators with the gold trim.
Wondering where you got that grey shirt jacket? It looks great!
Thank you!
great intro soundtrack lol hows the commercial realestate? rental places? are apartment complexes full or empty? hows the night time is it scary?
i only ever went to this mall for 2 reasons:
1. for century theater with friends and then the food court after
2. legos for when i was ditching college classes, and then some pizza bites before i head back home
working a 9 - 5 now tho and got my license, glad i got as much as out of the place as i can before it becomes something else. I just hope it's something the community benefits from