Great subclass and spells choice, considering that Loki is more focused on influence people's minds and create conflicts instead of party suport. A Mask of Many Faces Warlock Eldritch Invocación and Actor feat would be a remarcable combo: Infinite Disguisd Self, +1 CHA, mimic the speech of another person, advantage on Charisma (Deception) and Charisma (Performance) checks when trying to pass yourself off as a different person.
Thanks, I was thinking I was going to get some backlash for growing so Social Skill/spell heavy and not focusing hard enough on combat, but it really fits the character.
I would've gone more Arcane Trickster and maybe Swords Bard or Battle Master. Loki still has considerable ability with weaponry, able to Duke it out with Thor more than once and hold his own at least for a time. He also doesn't use mind control magic so much as illusory magic but to great effect. He's a mentalist who always tries to think around people and manipulate the situation. And he's generally disliked because he's arrogant and a prankster, so charisma doesn't do it in my opinion
I built loki as well for a player and used this bard subclass but also went arcane trickster rogue. Almost the same spell choices though. This was a great video.
Whisper Bard fits Loki SO WELL, I think the only thing he's missing is he does show some pretty good combat chops in Ragnarok, so I think you could either take some rogue levels for sneak attack or fighter levels for that two weapon fighting style.
If I was going to throw in some combat, I would probably grab 2 levels of Warlock, and pass it off as a deal Loki made, but bailed on. Then grab Hexblade, so you can still rely on charisma. Rogue is another solid choice though, it makes sense, since he is pretty sneaky, but I would throw more points into Dex rather than Con if that was the case.
Love this build, if you was to add 2 lvl of warlock you could say its the blood pact that made him a blood brother to Thor. As Odin gave Loki some of his blood making him a hybrid he is
I think I would follow this build until lvl 18, I would put two levels into Hexblade because of his daggers and he does have a projectile spell he uses in the Loki show so I would use Eldritch Blast with repelling blast to represent that.
That's a solid alternative, you don't really need the extra Ability Score Improvement, and Superior Inspiration wouldn't help a ton. Plus Warlock at 2 levels is just enough of a dip to make sure you get a lot of bonuses.
Still you love to see a Black Panther build.He would no doubt some levels of artificer,warlock or cleric,But also monk,So artificer(If you're going armorer.) would hard to fit in.
He was actually on the vote and came in second for the next Marvel build, I'll be making sure to release a vid for him closer to the next movie for sure either way though 😁
Thanks so much, I'm so happy that you're enjoying them. I definitely want to do another Final Fantasy character soon, Squall could be a really solid choice.
Great job on this one. The only changes I would make would be to take two levels of Fighter for Two Weapon Fighting and Action Surge, and swap out the 10th level Bardic Secrets. Instead of Blur, I would take Synaptic Static to affect multiple foes with psychic damage and a fantastic debuff. Otherwise, this was perfection.
Something else that might be good for Loki is potentially Eldritch blast using either magical secrets or maybe multi class to warlock. Loki seems to use his staff a lot, and we have seen him shoot beams from it. I don’t know how a warlock multi class affects the spell slots, but it could be interesting. I know that it doesn’t fit all to well with the pact, but one that I think could fit well may be the great old one. In the avengers, we see Loki speak with Thanos about invading Earth, and Thanos may fit this idea as almost the entire MCU verse (other than a few villains) rarely heard about him until he started his ultimate plan in Infinity War. I can think of a few options for the invocations. We see Loki just make his armor appear on him, so potentially armor of shadows for mage armor. There is also beguiling influence, gaining proficiency in deception and perception, but may not be too good as you did choose these near the beginning. Maybe changing up the proficiencies slightly could allow for this. Agonizing blast could be chooses for more powerful Eldritch blasts, but I don’t think it fits Loki all that well. Eldritch mind can be a good one for Loki keeping concentration, as it has been shown he can be very focused during combat. Mask of many faces to cast disguise self at will, since Loki does that a good amount. Their are potentially other ones that fit, but I think the choices I mentioned can work well for Loki. Edit: another thing I just thought of is that if you decide to stop at level 17 (meaning you still get a level 9 spell) and go for 3 levels in warlock, you could take pact of the blade. Now, despite how it is written, you could transform it into Loki’s staff and say that it is his weapon. Also, this could mean you can go for hexblade to get access to the hex warrior feature for dealing charisma damage. Plus, you do get medium armor, and based on images I have seen with the Tom Hiddleston Loki, he seems to have some type of metal plates under his robes for more protection. Additionally, I think an argument can be made for wrathful smite as we have seen Loki affect people by touching them with his scepter. Plus, Loki’s daggers seem to have a slight magical effect to them, making the smite a choice if it were on the daggers.
Yeah I kind of thought about it a bit more and thought maybe I would include just two levels of warlock and play this off as Loki making a deal and then going back on it. That would give some additional more luck capabilities which could be pretty cool
Thanks for another great build! Keep up the awesome videos. I was thinking about a Naruto build again and was thinking a monk/echo knight/warlock build. Get the shadow clone and maybe use eldritch blast like the rasengan. Looking forward to your next video.
@@dndbuilds Thanks, man! And I think the warlock could bring in the binding to kurama, and also have some spells to make more "shadow clones." Just illusions, but could work....
Thanks, I definitely got a little pushback from some people about the choice of class but I think it was the right call. But looking back I could see taking a couple levels in warlock and then just abandoning the deal which is something Loki would totally do
I don't think I heard it but for weopens would you just have a normal dagger as you start or are we just focusing on illusions and mean words to do this?
I think Rogues are better at skills (reliable talent is amazing), and are a solid addition to any combat heavy campaigns. Bards are good with Magical Secrets, but overall definitely slightly lacking in combat, although you can definitely make them work Here's deadpool: th-cam.com/video/wSvAkNMt59I/w-d-xo.html
I was definitely considering it with his trickster antics, but I figured it would only help the combat abilities with everything else you get from the current build, so it just didn't feel right.
@@dndbuilds no bard definitely worked out better, but I normally play combat characters and I would've gone with 3 levels of arcane trickster for sneak attack.
He was actually on that same poll for my patrons for which Marvel character to make. Loki won, but I had been somewhat hoping that Wolverine would, I've got a couple ideas for him.
Watched both your Kenshin and Bayonetta videos and liked them. Are you y chance going to do western animated characters for example Jake Long or JX-9/Jenny Wakeman? or you don't do those builds?
I don't think the Kenshin one was me, unless you're referring to a different anime build of mine. But I'm more than happy to do any popular character from any regions as long as I'm at least familiar enough with the source material to be able to start googling
Yeah, I hate using Goliath for non-giant characters. Does Loki have giant blood, yep. Is he 7ft tall with grey skin and tribal markings? Nope. Would I use Goliath for a Drax the Destroyer? Yes, but not Loki. That's what custom lineage is for. Mechanically, Goliath doesn't work. I hope this build gets better. Edit: it did. Whisper bard is a good choice since it gives you a way to use your bardic inspiration without buffing someone else.
Also, depending on the depictions, when he is in his more Giant-esque form, he is taller in the animated version. And in other versions he does have those tribal-esque markings.
@@dndbuilds and Thor should have red hair and a beard. Marvel's Loki is depicted as a human looking person. Hey, it's your build, man, but I have trouble reimagining a Goliath as a normal size human with normal skin tone. Unless you are planning to cast disguise self all the time.
There are optional spells in the expanded spell list, but there's also "Magical Secrets" which allows Bards to take a certain amount of spells from any spell list
Dude no. Just no. Not only was this painstakingly so, u don't just "reallocate" 2 Stat points. SUCH b.s. U didn't have 2 make him a Giant. Coulda made him Celestial just as easy. I admire that you're trying to do what Tulok does, and u r giving us options other than his builds. But keep it real Dude. Otherwise u might as well throw the rules out all together and write him uo however u want! Not 2 bad otherwise. A for effort! That's what I'll say.
I didn't come up with reallocating stats, that came out with Tasha's Cauldron of Everything, and WOTC mentioned it was especially for situations where you may be raised differently than others which seemed pretty spot on
@@dndbuilds I really don't blame u Dude. This is why I no longer play D and D. There really are no limits, and it's about giving the player's wtf they want whether it's within balance or not. U might as well just have the SAME bonus' for every race if ur going to allow "reallocating." And at that point every race us basically the same. Boring! - Keep up the good work! P.s. DM since 1994. I'm 39.
@@rustylocks4596 yeah when they came out with this rule I was kind of torn, like the idea that you could be the odd one out made sense, but it felt too easy. I would have liked it if maybe you could only adjust one score instead of all of them. So I get both sides on this, but it has made building certain characters a bit easier that's for sure
I wanted to make someone who can truly be an incredible Face to the party, and pull off a God of Mischief
Just curious what an arcane trickster work just as good?
Great subclass and spells choice, considering that Loki is more focused on influence people's minds and create conflicts instead of party suport. A Mask of Many Faces Warlock Eldritch Invocación and Actor feat would be a remarcable combo: Infinite Disguisd Self, +1 CHA, mimic the speech of another person, advantage on Charisma (Deception) and Charisma (Performance) checks when trying to pass yourself off as a different person.
Yeah, it felt like I really had to go against the grain, and build a more selfish character, while still being social.
Makes sense, was expecting more combat abilities but it makes sense that he doesn't now that you talked about it we'll done
Thanks, I was thinking I was going to get some backlash for growing so Social Skill/spell heavy and not focusing hard enough on combat, but it really fits the character.
Agree
I would've gone more Arcane Trickster and maybe Swords Bard or Battle Master. Loki still has considerable ability with weaponry, able to Duke it out with Thor more than once and hold his own at least for a time. He also doesn't use mind control magic so much as illusory magic but to great effect. He's a mentalist who always tries to think around people and manipulate the situation. And he's generally disliked because he's arrogant and a prankster, so charisma doesn't do it in my opinion
I built loki as well for a player and used this bard subclass but also went arcane trickster rogue. Almost the same spell choices though. This was a great video.
I'm glad you like it, great minds think alike I guess lol
Polymorph would be a solid spell choice to consider for this list. He did turn his brother into a Frog.
Yeah... I probably could have used that instead of something like the Crown of Stars
@@dndbuilds Overall though the build is great.
Whisper Bard fits Loki SO WELL, I think the only thing he's missing is he does show some pretty good combat chops in Ragnarok, so I think you could either take some rogue levels for sneak attack or fighter levels for that two weapon fighting style.
If I was going to throw in some combat, I would probably grab 2 levels of Warlock, and pass it off as a deal Loki made, but bailed on. Then grab Hexblade, so you can still rely on charisma. Rogue is another solid choice though, it makes sense, since he is pretty sneaky, but I would throw more points into Dex rather than Con if that was the case.
Actually all he needs is one of those ASIs to go for Fighting Initiate (maybe at level 1 with a custom lineage.... Sorry, couldn't resist)
Love this build, if you was to add 2 lvl of warlock you could say its the blood pact that made him a blood brother to Thor. As Odin gave Loki some of his blood making him a hybrid he is
So warlock of the celestial with Odin as his patron?
@@Kardur_Wrath_of_the_Abyss yeah
Even though Loki is giant blood, I think a changeling might be more in-line with Loki
Yeah I do. Kind of wish I had thrown in a little more polymorph or something, just a had a little more shifting ability.
@@dndbuilds firbolgs have access to the disguise self spell and can turn invisible. Also they can speak giant.
I think I would follow this build until lvl 18, I would put two levels into Hexblade because of his daggers and he does have a projectile spell he uses in the Loki show so I would use Eldritch Blast with repelling blast to represent that.
That's a solid alternative, you don't really need the extra Ability Score Improvement, and Superior Inspiration wouldn't help a ton. Plus Warlock at 2 levels is just enough of a dip to make sure you get a lot of bonuses.
Still you love to see a Black Panther build.He would no doubt some levels of artificer,warlock or cleric,But also monk,So artificer(If you're going armorer.) would hard to fit in.
He was actually on the vote and came in second for the next Marvel build, I'll be making sure to release a vid for him closer to the next movie for sure either way though 😁
I'd love to see a video on a character like Squall Leonheart from final fantasy VIII. These videos that I've seen so far have been great!
Thanks so much, I'm so happy that you're enjoying them. I definitely want to do another Final Fantasy character soon, Squall could be a really solid choice.
Great job on this one. The only changes I would make would be to take two levels of Fighter for Two Weapon Fighting and Action Surge, and swap out the 10th level Bardic Secrets. Instead of Blur, I would take Synaptic Static to affect multiple foes with psychic damage and a fantastic debuff. Otherwise, this was perfection.
I would replace incite greed with death ward and world take levels in rogue (arcane trickster, its in the name) and levels in fighter (echo knight)
14 levels in bard, 3 levels fighter, 3 levels rogue.
I think a pretty cool build would be Sheriff Bigby Wolf from The Wolf Among Us, maybe an inquisitive/beast multiclass?
I would definitely have to dive into it a bit, I've never had the chance to play The Wolf Among Us, so I would need to research a tiny bit.
Something else that might be good for Loki is potentially Eldritch blast using either magical secrets or maybe multi class to warlock. Loki seems to use his staff a lot, and we have seen him shoot beams from it. I don’t know how a warlock multi class affects the spell slots, but it could be interesting. I know that it doesn’t fit all to well with the pact, but one that I think could fit well may be the great old one. In the avengers, we see Loki speak with Thanos about invading Earth, and Thanos may fit this idea as almost the entire MCU verse (other than a few villains) rarely heard about him until he started his ultimate plan in Infinity War. I can think of a few options for the invocations. We see Loki just make his armor appear on him, so potentially armor of shadows for mage armor. There is also beguiling influence, gaining proficiency in deception and perception, but may not be too good as you did choose these near the beginning. Maybe changing up the proficiencies slightly could allow for this. Agonizing blast could be chooses for more powerful Eldritch blasts, but I don’t think it fits Loki all that well. Eldritch mind can be a good one for Loki keeping concentration, as it has been shown he can be very focused during combat. Mask of many faces to cast disguise self at will, since Loki does that a good amount. Their are potentially other ones that fit, but I think the choices I mentioned can work well for Loki.
Edit: another thing I just thought of is that if you decide to stop at level 17 (meaning you still get a level 9 spell) and go for 3 levels in warlock, you could take pact of the blade. Now, despite how it is written, you could transform it into Loki’s staff and say that it is his weapon. Also, this could mean you can go for hexblade to get access to the hex warrior feature for dealing charisma damage. Plus, you do get medium armor, and based on images I have seen with the Tom Hiddleston Loki, he seems to have some type of metal plates under his robes for more protection. Additionally, I think an argument can be made for wrathful smite as we have seen Loki affect people by touching them with his scepter. Plus, Loki’s daggers seem to have a slight magical effect to them, making the smite a choice if it were on the daggers.
Honestly if it's possible I would have squeezed in eldridge adapt for mask of many faces to cast disguise self.
Yeah I kind of thought about it a bit more and thought maybe I would include just two levels of warlock and play this off as Loki making a deal and then going back on it. That would give some additional more luck capabilities which could be pretty cool
I made loki in a campaign but he was slightly different to this, he was a changeling and he was a arcane trickster
I did a simlar build but I used changling as the race
Thanks for another great build! Keep up the awesome videos. I was thinking about a Naruto build again and was thinking a monk/echo knight/warlock build. Get the shadow clone and maybe use eldritch blast like the rasengan. Looking forward to your next video.
I had been slamming my head into a wall trying to figure out a shadow clone... HOW DID I NOT THINK OF ECHO KNIGHT?!?!?! That's a friggin great IDEA!
@@dndbuilds Thanks, man! And I think the warlock could bring in the binding to kurama, and also have some spells to make more "shadow clones." Just illusions, but could work....
Great job. Bard was definitely the way to go.
Thanks, I definitely got a little pushback from some people about the choice of class but I think it was the right call. But looking back I could see taking a couple levels in warlock and then just abandoning the deal which is something Loki would totally do
I don't think I heard it but for weopens would you just have a normal dagger as you start or are we just focusing on illusions and mean words to do this?
do you think for more combat heavy campaigns rogue would be a good multiclass after lvl 15 bard (sneak attack)?
Also Deadpool build???
I think Rogues are better at skills (reliable talent is amazing), and are a solid addition to any combat heavy campaigns. Bards are good with Magical Secrets, but overall definitely slightly lacking in combat, although you can definitely make them work
Here's deadpool: th-cam.com/video/wSvAkNMt59I/w-d-xo.html
I was really expecting some levels arcane trickster.
I was definitely considering it with his trickster antics, but I figured it would only help the combat abilities with everything else you get from the current build, so it just didn't feel right.
@@dndbuilds no bard definitely worked out better, but I normally play combat characters and I would've gone with 3 levels of arcane trickster for sneak attack.
@@devonhappe yeah, I've only really been in 1 campaign that was ultra low combat, so it's definitely a bit of a niche
What about Netflix's Lucifer? Sounds great hehe
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Loki’s mind is a bag full of Cats 🤣
That's an understatement
Wolverine !!! . Do him . Please :)
He was actually on that same poll for my patrons for which Marvel character to make. Loki won, but I had been somewhat hoping that Wolverine would, I've got a couple ideas for him.
@@dndbuilds wooooo !!!! .
Watched both your Kenshin and Bayonetta videos and liked them. Are you y chance going to do western animated characters for example Jake Long or JX-9/Jenny Wakeman? or you don't do those builds?
I don't think the Kenshin one was me, unless you're referring to a different anime build of mine. But I'm more than happy to do any popular character from any regions as long as I'm at least familiar enough with the source material to be able to start googling
Did you do Black Widow?
How come some of the skills and spells aren’t in D&D beyond?
High charisma and illusion magic
yup!
Ashtaka from princess Mononoke please
Mind Sliver is a Sorcerer, Warlock, or Wizard Spell. you can't take it at Bard 4
Going against the argument that Loki wouldn’t be a Trickery domain cleric, is there anything that says you can’t worship yourself as your own god?
That's a sorcerer
@ sorcerer’s powers don’t come from worship.
@@Evoker23-lx8mb true but if decide to become divine sorcerer you gain cleric spells
@@Evoker23-lx8mb if you become a divine sorcerer you gain cleric spells
@@kevinvescio4778 yeah but sorcerer’s powers come from their lineage, not faith.
Arcane trixter as a subclass?
Nope, I definitely considered it though
@@dndbuilds wow you actually read that.
@@rinchanx445 I try to read and respond to as much as possible
Yeah, I hate using Goliath for non-giant characters. Does Loki have giant blood, yep. Is he 7ft tall with grey skin and tribal markings? Nope. Would I use Goliath for a Drax the Destroyer? Yes, but not Loki. That's what custom lineage is for. Mechanically, Goliath doesn't work. I hope this build gets better. Edit: it did. Whisper bard is a good choice since it gives you a way to use your bardic inspiration without buffing someone else.
You can always tweak some visuals, but I like it as a core theme for the character
Also, depending on the depictions, when he is in his more Giant-esque form, he is taller in the animated version. And in other versions he does have those tribal-esque markings.
@@dndbuilds and Thor should have red hair and a beard. Marvel's Loki is depicted as a human looking person. Hey, it's your build, man, but I have trouble reimagining a Goliath as a normal size human with normal skin tone. Unless you are planning to cast disguise self all the time.
I think the next one should be Harry Potter
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Half of spells you gave us weren’t in the classes spell list.
There are optional spells in the expanded spell list, but there's also "Magical Secrets" which allows Bards to take a certain amount of spells from any spell list
Dude no. Just no. Not only was this painstakingly so, u don't just "reallocate" 2 Stat points. SUCH b.s. U didn't have 2 make him a Giant. Coulda made him Celestial just as easy. I admire that you're trying to do what Tulok does, and u r giving us options other than his builds. But keep it real Dude. Otherwise u might as well throw the rules out all together and write him uo however u want! Not 2 bad otherwise. A for effort! That's what I'll say.
I didn't come up with reallocating stats, that came out with Tasha's Cauldron of Everything, and WOTC mentioned it was especially for situations where you may be raised differently than others which seemed pretty spot on
@@dndbuilds I really don't blame u Dude. This is why I no longer play D and D. There really are no limits, and it's about giving the player's wtf they want whether it's within balance or not. U might as well just have the SAME bonus' for every race if ur going to allow "reallocating." And at that point every race us basically the same. Boring!
- Keep up the good work!
P.s. DM since 1994. I'm 39.
@@rustylocks4596 yeah when they came out with this rule I was kind of torn, like the idea that you could be the odd one out made sense, but it felt too easy. I would have liked it if maybe you could only adjust one score instead of all of them. So I get both sides on this, but it has made building certain characters a bit easier that's for sure