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One can be without sin yet still a sinner... I understand that we can not become sinless yet we can be sin free. Now, we can as Jesus calls for; “go and sin no more” John5:14
Let's ALL fast and pray for Walter and Martin, their families, and all the amazing Discoveries staff. Most certainly the enemy is super wroth with their efforts to proclaim the three angels messages and expose the unfruitful works of darkness!! 🙏
From what the SOP says, we are to fast and pray for the Holy spirit to come into us to have a closer walk with God and to have understanding the scriprures and to have a will to do Gods will no matter what. I have never read to fast and pray for people. If we have the Holy spirit in us we will pray the right prayers and not ask for things we shouldn't. God says don't worry about what to pray, for the Holy spirit will give you the words to say.
I have grappled with this issue for months. The more I study the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy, the more clear our sinful state becomes. The more one learns, the more you see how high God's perfection is. And the contrast with yourself becomes so so so great. This has been an incredibly valuable and enlightening 2-part study. Thank you so so so much for your time and effort in studying this topic, compiling the evidence out of God's truth, and sharing it with all of us. May God bless you abundantly.
I wanted to thank you! I have never understood the Bible as much as I do now. You, dear Walter put it into an easy way of understanding. I attended a church for over 10 years and never got the answers that I got in this one message here today. God bless you and your ministry! I praise God daily for letting me find your teachings.
So appreciated this. I've been pondering these topics since I became a Christian at 24, decades ago. Christ is our righteousness. He that hath the Son hath life. We die daily and confess our great need of His perfect righteousness. We know without Him we can do nothing (good, spiritual etc.). We invite the Holy Spirit to work in us to will and to do His good pleasure. We make choices. He provides strength and power in our lives. We pray and learn through study of Him. We grow, but at every step, problem, stumbling, victory...Christ is our only righteousness. I loved what you said about God declaring us righteous etc., but we can never do that. Truly, in ourselves we see how deficient we are. Having said that, we have assurance by faith in the promises of God's Word.If he declares it, we accept it by faith. It's like a 2 sided coin...we are totally unworthy yet declared perfect in Christ. The parable of the workers all receiving the same coin came to mind. The early workers complained they had worked all day and the very recently hired workers received the same wage. Christ's merit, not ours, is always our reward, regardless how long we've been a Christian. This parable also fits well into the last generation theology. Last or first, long dead or alive at His coming, our passport to heaven is always the wonderful, perfect righteousness of our lovely Saviour. Thank you for tackling this.
jo ward: Ah, such a beautiful testimonial. I ran parallel with you in many of your thoughts and experiences. Thank you for this bravery to share. Thought of, paraphrased: "Confess your faults one to another, and pray for one another that you may be healed. Abundant Blessings!
Thank you once again, Gentlemen, for an excellent study! May the LORD continually bless, protect, provide for, strengthen you so you can continue to strengthen us as we are making our way home!
Praise God for His Marvelous Words of Truth. Thank you to you servants of the Most High, may God continue to bless you and the work that you're doing. AMEN
As God’s people we must live up to the light that we have. Those that come in at the 11th hour will accept the light given and be accounted Righteous by Christ.
You guys through the holy spirit you are helping us. God bless amazing discovery and all those that reason together with these episodes as we reason together with christ (isaiah 1:18). Keep updating us, this is only way to go. Lets be perfect as our father in heaven is perfect. Righteousness by faith through. Thank you Prof Walter Veith and Martin. we love you.
We had a sermon on this today at church by our Pastor, it was very good! This helped me further my study into these topics of discussion. Thankyou Martin and Walter 💛🙏🏼💕
I am happy that I have a Choice in my Salvation through Jesus Christ. I am content to make No Other Choice than to continually Choose Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour; my Righteousness; although it comes with severe lashings out at me by the adversary and those through whom He works. By God's grace I'll continuously: Dwell in the secret place of the most High; under the shadow of the Almighty. He is my Refuge and my Fortress; I shall continue to trust in Him; His Truth shall be my Shield and Buckler. Thank You, dear Lord for Choosing me; and for helping me to each day, make You my Choice. Thank you to my friends at AD Africa Ministries. This presentation was very necessary to be made. The Lord continues to be with you. LOL, Blessings, Prayers.
This message was so beautiful and the clarity on this subject was very direct and to the point. Thank you so much, and may the Lord continue to bless this ministry!!🙏🏾🙏🏾
Lord give Mario the strength, courage and that he needs right now. Lord you know the pain he is going through. The loss of a loved one is unbearable especially a mother. Empower him with your strength. Thank you for the hope of the resurrection of the dead in the last day. Let your son Mario know he is alone. You are with him even until the end. Bless all of his family through this painful process they are going through. In Jesus name I ask all the blessing on his behalf, amen. Accept my deepest sympathy Maroi, love you my brother, keep the faith.
this video was truly a blessing to me, it made a lot of things clear. i just want to say thank you for discussing this subject but most of all THANK GOD that he sets free his children and takes care of us. HALLELUJAH
How great is the endless love of God, can our minds ever fully comprehend this.... All the glory and majesty belongs to Him who sits on the everlasting throne. Amen
Thank you brothers. I've been learning for the last 6 months. For your part in turning me to God, Jesus and the Holy spirit. I thank God for your works. Thanks again.
It's funny how those who come from different backgrounds are brought together b/c of one Man. Thank you Jesus for willing servants like Walter and Martin and the What's Up Prof compilations!!!!
Forgetting that yesterday was Monday, I looked in the cellphone for this new posting, for the part 2 to last week's Premiere. Now, I'll anxiously wait for Thursday to come. I'll also continually keep AD Africa Ministries in my Prayers.
"None of the apostles and prophets ever claimed to be without sin. Men who have lived the nearest to God, men who would sacrifice life itself rather than knowingly commit a wrong act, men whom God has honored with divine light and power, have confessed the sinfulness of their nature. They have put no confidence in the flesh, have claimed no righteousness of their own, but have trusted wholly in the righteousness of Christ." {Acts of the Apostles 561.1}
Thank you thank you thank you!!!!! I have been studying this over a year with all the research praying and Bible reading I have come up with the same conclusion here almost verbatim in some points made me scream with joy!!!! The correct understanding of righteousness by faith is the bottom line!! The majority of times offshoots/independence have this wrong and spread out in several different directions with the mask of different issues-Father/Son, Reforms etc but if you look behind the mask of whatever movement this is the underlying issue the majority of the time! And why? People underestimate the blinding power of Satan-He HATES the righteousness of Christ
At 43 minutes - good discussion about after probation closes and we are standing without a mediator. Appreciate the logic on debunking some of those myths about this time period. So important the phrasing "within their sphere" - I often think of those that are saved just prior to the close of probation. Those that have known the truth for decades are in a different 'sphere' than those that have more recently come to Truth. Jesus is the same throughout time - and just as the thief on the cross will make it to heaven because of faith in the merits of Christ, so to will those that are the last converts before the sealing takes place. Great - you came back to this very issue at 58 minutes, and even speaking of the thief on the cross. Really appreciated the talk about 'presumption'. It takes so many forms, and so often masquerades as faith. When I first came to Christ it was in a Sunday keeping denomination. They preached a 'name it claim it' sort of doctrine; where IF you had sufficient faith and stepped out in that faith - THEN God would bless you to attain. I was a baby Christian, but stepped out in a huge way and was CERTAIN God would fulfill the object of that step. SPLAT !!! Nearly ruined my life and that of my family. We can always know that when things don't go as we desire - we need to look at our apprehensions and suppositions, and not blame God. Anyway after some study God opened to me more truth on discerning between presumption and faith. Even Jesus Himself did not take the 'bait' on stepping off the precipice and the angels catching his feet; and yet we the supposed people of God so often do so. And yet there is a presumption as well on the other side - the side of taking NO step and doing NOTHING. There are those even in Adventism that hold that since they can do nothing on their own and that Christ will take care of them; ...that they need not trouble themselves in working towards those objects, whether it be greater scriptural knowledge (getting settled in the truth) or fidelity to Christ or in physical preparations in a world being turned upside down. For example, we have had a warning for over a hundred years about getting out of the cities, and yet many that God has blessed with the proper time and resources have not done so. Certainly there are some in city ministries which may not be able without leaving their God given duty; and God will bless their faithfulness. And yet there is a larger class which squander the resources given them by God for vacations, ostentation, and articles of pleasure, instead of relocating and meaningfully learning to garden and make other physical and mental preparations - and yet they still expect that God will bless them with what they need through the little time of trouble. They are presuming upon God, and that presumption will likely bear a very bitter harvest.
Thank you for a clear explanation. 1. The reason why Christ had to come to earth as a babe was, though born sinless, he had to develop a perfect human character, which was achieved by His total reliance and faith in His Father; 2. By his faith in God, Abraham was accounted righteous, Galatians 3:6; 3. Therefore, the righteous will be saved because they are found to fulfill Revelation 14:12; “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God and have the faith OF Jesus.” 4. In conclusion: “Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy,” Jude 24
How uplifting and positive it was with the thief at the cross. Even he will come to heaven one day, not studied the Bible, not baptized, he just put all his trust in Jesus Christ. It's that simple. ❤️
The thief on the Cross according to the book Desire of Ages was convicted and gave his life to Christ but was turned away by the scribes and Pharisees and went back to his old friends and was caught up with them and given the death penalty. Praise God that he was still convicted that Christ was the Messiah on the Cross received pardon and will have eternal life at the second coming. Not all will have that opportunity at the Cross as the thief did so I hope that you study your Bible diligently and make your salvation sure. God bless
Thank you so much for this Talk! I cannot begin to tell you how encouraging it has been for me to learn this wonderful truth. God bless the both of you
This discussion has put peace in my heart knowing that we don't have to become perfect on our own, but through Christ. I recently heard other ministries push last generation theology and became very discouraged. I have been praying for discernment and this video has answered my prayers. Thank you AD.
This was a very good discussion. The bottom line is that we are covered by the righteousness of Christ and that is the only thing that qualifies us to enter heaven with or without a mediator. I do think the last generation is going to go through hell starting from the enforcement of the mark of the beast through the time of trouble which some past generations didn’t have to experience so the seal of God is necessary for survival. I do think the seal is more than just settling into the truth but God’s supernatural means of keeping you from falling and shielding you from temptation otherwise it would seem like man’s own effort to be settled into the truth. Maybe Walter and Martin should do a session of what it means to be settled into the truth.
Most of them are members of the general conference, which has been back in bed with Rome. I even went to a service at a little country conference church and was appalled at what they were teaching and all of it was NIV, NKJV and other Vaticanus Vulgate texts. They have left their first Love.
About the thief on the cross... he asked the other thief if he doesn’t fear God? This was the 1st Angel message. One thief accepted Christ as His only SAVIOR and then he tried to witness to the other thief the 1st Angel Message. The other thief rejected it and had fallen just like Babylon . You see the characteristics of the 3 Angel Messages can be found in all the histories of the Bible’s. These messages prepare Gods people to stand in the Day of the Lord, which is Sunday Law onward until the earth begins its own Sabbath, the 1000 years. Praise the Lord!!
i love this presentation and it has given me more light. Especially is it so much deeply shown in the SOP than i ever thought. Bro Walter kindly have some quotations on this issue of predestination by Waggoner and Jones and kindly share the same with us in your next presentation.
I want to ask a question to Professor Veith, a man of God that inspires me every time I listen to his videos. A question regarding Baptism. Is it Biblical to be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19) or to be baptized only in the name of Jesus, as in Acts 2: 38?. Thanks Professor Veith, may God be with you and support you in your precious ministry!
Appreciate the respectful manner in which this is presented. There is much Truth, but where I differ is in the idea that there is no difference between the last generation and previous generations. By definition, the last generation lives without an Intercessor which no other generation has ever done; they sing the song of Moses and if The Lamb, which none other will be allowed to do, and they sing a new song which no one else could learn except the 144,000 (see Revelation 14:3; 15:3,4). They also endure a time if terrible such as has never been (which again makes them unique!); Daniel 12:1. They have a special place and heaven, as they have an exclusive experience with Christ that others never did partake of. Otherwise there's no reason to single out the hundred and forty four thousand. I definitely agree though, that this will be no less an act of Grace by the Almighty then it was for any other generation. But it is so clear. The final generation will not merely have the experience of Abraham, Adam, Noah, Lot, it even Job, but they will have they go through the Gethsemane experience of Jesus Christ who did no sin, because in his agony he declared, "not my will but thy will be done." He had the ability to sin, but did no sin. No one who takes this stance (of not my will but Thine) will be living in willful or even unwillful sin, lest God should be made a liar, and lest it be possible to be led of the Spirit and led into sin (see Galatians 5:16). Special indeed, but no less an act of God's grace. Further, if we're going to say that not being able to send means not having a choice oh, then you have to say the same thing about choosing to follow Jesus. Can the people decide to stop following Jesus after the decree goes forth? Yes! Will they? No! If that is true of their commitment to Jesus, why would it not also be true of their decision to not sin?
re: the utterings @ the 1:03:00 mark, it was a reminder to me of the dec. 7 (p. 350 if not mistaken) of the e.g.w. devotional book titled, 'this day with God', where the specific reading titled "Eternal Loss" on the aforementioned day, tempers some preconceived ideas we'd had about a differing of attainments upon reaching heaven; btw, while we're at it, since veith a few times throughout made allusion to meeting people that had declared themselves to be sinless, I cannot help to think of a specific case that he mentions in 1 of his life testimonies, where a man went to veith's house & upon walter opening the door, the man told veith 'i am perfect; I don't have anymore a craving for cheese'-), & upon telling that true anecdote that happened to him, he stated that he wouldn't believe that something like that would happen unless he'd seen it with its own eyes; of how brazenly presumptuous people could get, this side of heaven..
Read the paragraphs following to a reference he used: Be careful, exceedingly careful as to how you dwell upon the human nature of Christ. Do not set Him before the people as a man with the propensities of sin. He is the second Adam. The first Adam was created a pure, sinless being, without a taint of sin upon him; he was in the image of God. He could fall, and he did fall through transgressing. Because of sin, his posterity was born with inherent propensities of disobedience. But Jesus Christ was the only begotten Son of God. He took upon Himself human nature, and was tempted in all points as human nature is tempted. He could have sinned; He could have fallen, but not for one moment was there in Him an evil propensity. He was assailed with temptations in the wilderness, as Adam was assailed with temptations in Eden. 13MR 18.1 Bro. Baker, avoid every question in relation to the humanity of Christ which is liable to be misunderstood. Truth lies close to the track of presumption. In treating upon the humanity of Christ, you need to guard strenuously every assertion, lest your words be taken to mean more than they imply, and thus you lose or dim the clear perceptions of His humanity as combined with divinity. His birth was a miracle of God; for, said the angel, “Behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great and shall be called the son of the Highest; and the Lord shall give unto him the throne of his Father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing that I know not a man? And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.” 13MR 18.2 These words are not addressed to any human being, except to the Son of the Infinite God. Never, in any way, leave the slightest impression upon human minds that a taint of, or inclination to corruption rested upon Christ, or that He in any way yielded to corruption. He was tempted in all points like as man is tempted, yet He is called that holy thing. It is a mystery that is left unexplained to mortals that Christ could be tempted in all points like as we are, and yet be without sin. The incarnation of Christ has ever been, and will ever remain a mystery. That which is revealed, is for us and for our children, but let every human being be warned from the ground of making Christ altogether human, such an one as ourselves: for it cannot be. The exact time when humanity blended with divinity, it is not necessary for us to know. We are to keep our feet on the rock, Christ Jesus, as God revealed in humanity. 13MR 19.1 I perceive that there is danger in approaching subjects which dwell on the humanity of the Son of the infinite God. He did humble Himself when He saw He was in fashion as a man, that He might understand the force of all temptations wherewith man is beset. 13MR 19.2 The first Adam fell: the second Adam held fast to God and His word under the most trying circumstances, and His faith in His Father's goodness, mercy, and love did not waver for one moment. “It is written” was His weapon of resistance, and it is the sword of the Spirit which every human being is to use. “Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me”-nothing to respond to temptation. Not one occasion has been given in response to His manifold temptations. Not once did Christ step on Satan's ground, to give him any advantage. Satan found nothing in Him to encourage his advances. 13MR 19.3 As teachers we need to understand that the object and teaching of our Lord was to simplify in all His instruction, the nature and the necessity of the moral excellence of character which God through His Son has made every provision that human agents should obtain, that they may be laborers together with Jesus Christ. This God requires, and to this end the ministers of the gospel should work, both in their education of the people, and in the ministry of the word. 13MR 20.1
We are not sinless but we are to purpose in our hearts never to sin against God as given by example in Jesus as he declared himself without sin KJV John 14:30-31 30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me. 31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence. If Jesus is our example than we must always do as he has done with humble and contrite heart
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LINKS FOR FURTHER STUDY:
Counsels on Diet and Foods, p. 133.2
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=CD+133.2&suggestion=0
The Spirit of Prophecy, vol. 3, p. 77.2
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=3SP+77.2&suggestion=0
Manuscript Releases, vol. 13 [Nos. 1000-1080], p. 18.1
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=13MR+18.1&suggestion=0
Gospel Workers (1915 ed.), p. 127.3
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=GW+127.3&suggestion=0
Selected Messages Book 3, p. 148.3
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=3SM+148.3&suggestion=0
Manuscript Releases, vol. 21 [Nos. 1501-1598], p. 169.4
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=21MR+169.4&suggestion=0
The Acts of the Apostles, p. 531.2
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=AA+531.2&suggestion=0
Confrontation, p. 48.2
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=Con+48.2&suggestion=0
Selected Messages Book 2, p. 32.3
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=2SM+32.3&suggestion=0
The Acts of the Apostles, p. 472.1
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=AA+472.1&suggestion=0
Counsels to Parents, Teachers, and Students, p. 267.4
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=CT+267.4&suggestion=0
The Acts of the Apostles, p. 562.2
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=AA+562.2&suggestion=0
Selected Messages Book 2, p. 32.1
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=2SM+32.1&suggestion=0
Last Day Events, p. 267.3
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=LDE+267.3&suggestion=0
Selected Messages Book 3, p. 355.4
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=3SM+355.4&suggestion=0
Last Day Events, p. 268.3
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=LDE+268.3&suggestion=0
The Acts of the Apostles, p. 562.1
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=AA+561.2A&suggestion=0
Steps to Christ, p. 65.1
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=SC+65.1&suggestion=0
Ye Shall Receive Power, p. 66.4
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=YRP+66.4+&suggestion=0
From the Heart, p. 47.3
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=FH+47.3&suggestion=0
The Great Controversy, p. 425.1
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=GC+425.1&suggestion=0
Heaven, p. 90.4
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=Hvn+90.4&suggestion=0
The Faith I Live By, p. 287.7
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=FLB+287.7&suggestion=0
Selected Messages Book 3, p. 355.4
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=3SM+355.4&suggestion=0
The Ministry of Healing, p. 466.1
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=The+Ministry+of+Healing%2C+466&suggestion=0
The Spirit of Prophecy, vol. 4, p. 320.3
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=4SP+320.3+&suggestion=0
Humble Hero, p. 353.8
m.egwwritings.org/en/search?query=HH+353.8+&suggestion=0
One can be without sin yet still a sinner... I understand that we can not become sinless yet we can be sin free. Now, we can as Jesus calls for; “go and sin no more” John5:14
Let's ALL fast and pray for Walter and Martin, their families, and all the amazing Discoveries staff. Most certainly the enemy is super wroth with their efforts to proclaim the three angels messages and expose the unfruitful works of darkness!! 🙏
From what the SOP says, we are to fast and pray for the Holy spirit to come into us to have a closer walk with God and to have understanding the scriprures and to have a will to do Gods will no matter what. I have never read to fast and pray for people. If we have the Holy spirit in us we will pray the right prayers and not ask for things we shouldn't. God says don't worry about what to pray, for the Holy spirit will give you the words to say.
I have grappled with this issue for months. The more I study the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy, the more clear our sinful state becomes. The more one learns, the more you see how high God's perfection is. And the contrast with yourself becomes so so so great. This has been an incredibly valuable and enlightening 2-part study. Thank you so so so much for your time and effort in studying this topic, compiling the evidence out of God's truth, and sharing it with all of us. May God bless you abundantly.
Lord, Thank you for sending Walter Veith and Martin Smith for such a time as this.
God has given Brother Veith gift of teaching.
This has helped me understand biblical perfection IMMENSELY! I cannot thank the both of you enough for this! To God be the glory! Amen! 🙌🏽🙏🏽
Blessed be the name of the Lord 😊🙏🏻😊
I wanted to thank you! I have never understood the Bible as much as I do now. You, dear Walter put it into an easy way of understanding. I attended a church for over 10 years and never got the answers that I got in this one message here today. God bless you and your ministry! I praise God daily for letting me find your teachings.
THANK YOU SO MUCH BROTHER WALTER THIS HAS HELPED ME SOOOO MUCH SEE YOU SOON BY HIS GRACE AND POWER WHEN JESUS COMES
Praise God for causing His light shine even brighter as the darkness thickens. Let those that have ears, hear.
Beautiful message. Righteousness through Christ ❤️
Thank you father God for these wonderful people, keep them and their families safe....amen
So appreciated this. I've been pondering these topics since I became a Christian at 24, decades ago. Christ is our righteousness. He that hath the Son hath life. We die daily and confess our great need of His perfect righteousness. We know without Him we can do nothing (good, spiritual etc.). We invite the Holy Spirit to work in us to will and to do His good pleasure. We make choices. He provides strength and power in our lives. We pray and learn through study of Him. We grow, but at every step, problem, stumbling, victory...Christ is our only righteousness.
I loved what you said about God declaring us righteous etc., but we can never do that. Truly, in ourselves we see how deficient we are. Having said that, we have assurance by faith in the promises of God's Word.If he declares it, we accept it by faith. It's like a 2 sided coin...we are totally unworthy yet declared perfect in Christ.
The parable of the workers all receiving the same coin came to mind. The early workers complained they had worked all day and the very recently hired workers received the same wage. Christ's merit, not ours, is always our reward, regardless how long we've been a Christian.
This parable also fits well into the last generation theology. Last or first, long dead or alive at His coming, our passport to heaven is always the wonderful, perfect righteousness of our lovely Saviour.
Thank you for tackling this.
On the right track. May the Lord continue to keep you faithful unto Him.
jo ward: Ah, such a beautiful testimonial. I ran parallel with you in many of your thoughts and experiences.
Thank you for this bravery to share. Thought of, paraphrased: "Confess your faults one to another, and pray for one another that you may be healed. Abundant Blessings!
Wow!! You got it sir! The third angels message in verity. Sound s like you have looked into the 1888 message there. Spread the good news!!
Very powerful presentation.It has helped me so much.God be your shield guys.
Thank you once again, Gentlemen, for an excellent study!
May the LORD continually bless, protect, provide for, strengthen you so you can continue to strengthen us as we are making our way home!
Amen .!!!
Praise God for Walter & Martin. Thank you for sharing the truth with the world 🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼
Thank for this powerful lesson again. May the almighty God add a blessing to your ministry and your families Walter and Martin.
You are clearing up so much confusion I had about the sealing and end time “status” of the righteous vs unrighteous. THANK YOU
Praise God for His Marvelous Words of Truth.
Thank you to you servants of the Most High, may God continue to bless you and the work that you're doing.
AMEN
As God’s people we must live up to the light that we have.
Those that come in at the 11th hour will accept the light given and be accounted Righteous by Christ.
This is the most profound study i have ever heard. Thanks Walter and Martin for your dedication
What an awesome excellent discussion that provides hope for all. Praise God for this blessing showing His grace.
Yes God never changes so we can be perfect only in Christ
In Christ is the WAY. His righteousness !
You guys through the holy spirit you are helping us. God bless amazing discovery and all those that reason together with these episodes as we reason together with christ (isaiah 1:18).
Keep updating us, this is only way to go. Lets be perfect as our father in heaven is perfect. Righteousness by faith through. Thank you Prof Walter Veith and Martin. we love you.
So much blessed with this #61 series
Wonderful presentation! This episode has changed my life, thank you guys!
Thank you Walter and Martin. You both are truly blessed. Keep on.--Thank you both again!
Another very deep lecture. My mind is still unraveling it all God Bless.
Amen hallelujah praise the lord thank you Jesus
Thank you again and again for all your efforts to educate your family... May God keep you both in the Spirit that inspires His love to be shared.
May God keep blessing you Walter and Martin! Maranata and happy Sabbath!!
Excellent! Praise the Lord for blessing you guys with this message of clarity on such a complex subject!
We had a sermon on this today at church by our Pastor, it was very good! This helped me further my study into these topics of discussion. Thankyou Martin and Walter 💛🙏🏼💕
Thank you for the beautiful and wonderful message God bless you both for giving us this spiritual message
From London
My two favourite teachers, walter and Martin, God help us to see his face in the end and to be found ready in Jesus name.
Beautiful in-depth discussion, let us keep striving and maintaining Christian perfection!
I am happy that I have a Choice in my Salvation through Jesus Christ.
I am content to make No Other Choice than to continually Choose Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour; my Righteousness; although it comes with severe lashings out at me by the adversary and those through whom He works.
By God's grace I'll continuously:
Dwell in the secret place of the most High; under the shadow of the Almighty. He is my Refuge and my Fortress; I shall continue to trust in Him; His Truth shall be my Shield and Buckler.
Thank You, dear Lord for Choosing me; and for helping me to each day, make You my Choice.
Thank you to my friends at AD Africa Ministries. This presentation was very necessary to be made. The Lord continues to be with you.
LOL, Blessings, Prayers.
Beautifully put! Amen!
As we grow further and further from our particular sinful appetites we grow closer to that perfection and thereby closer to Christ.
This is what the presentation is all about.
You have explained it very well about being sinners those who believe that heaven Kingdom is express must listen to this
I love this. I needed this. What a powerful presentation!
Nothing in my hand I bring, only to His cross I cling!~
This message was so beautiful and the clarity on this subject was very direct and to the point. Thank you so much, and may the Lord continue to bless this ministry!!🙏🏾🙏🏾
I need prayers I just lost my mother
Lord give Mario the strength, courage and that he needs right now. Lord you know the pain he is going through. The loss of a loved one is unbearable especially a mother. Empower him with your strength. Thank you for the hope of the resurrection of the dead in the last day. Let your son Mario know he is alone. You are with him even until the end. Bless all of his family through this painful process they are going through. In Jesus name I ask all the blessing on his behalf, amen. Accept my deepest sympathy Maroi, love you my brother, keep the faith.
Praying for the peace that passes understanding 🙏🏼 Praise God, it will not be long till you are reunited🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼
I feel your sorrow
May God bless you, be with you, and comfort you. Jesus is coming very soon. Be faithful.
I'm so sorry! May God comfort your heart! And by Christ's grace you'll meet her again very soon!! ❤
Thank you Walter and Martin for your work. You helped me a lot 🙂
this video was truly a blessing to me, it made a lot of things clear. i just want to say thank you for discussing this subject but most of all THANK GOD that he sets free his children and takes care of us. HALLELUJAH
How great is the endless love of God, can our minds ever fully comprehend this....
All the glory and majesty belongs to Him who sits on the everlasting throne. Amen
Thank you brothers. I've been learning for the last 6 months. For your part in turning me to God, Jesus and the Holy spirit. I thank God for your works. Thanks again.
Thank you brethren may God bless
❤❤❤Thanks to you dear brothers Martin Smith & Walter veith
It's funny how those who come from different backgrounds are brought together b/c of one Man. Thank you Jesus for willing servants like Walter and Martin and the What's Up Prof compilations!!!!
Such a fantastic presentation! So much information!
This is what i needed! Thanks for this episode! :D
Living up to the light we have as it is given from God enabling us, individually, to do so: and He will give us more light as we obey Him.
Forgetting that yesterday was Monday, I looked in the cellphone for this new posting, for the part 2 to last week's Premiere.
Now, I'll anxiously wait for Thursday to come. I'll also continually keep AD Africa Ministries in my Prayers.
THANK YOU SO MUCH - EVERY LESSON SO IMPORTANT - EVERYONE A GEM. GOD BLESS AND KEEP EVERYONE AT AD. LOVE TO YOU.
Thank you so much for the wonderful message ! God Bless you both and your family!
Amazing study!!!
"None of the apostles and prophets ever claimed to be without sin. Men who have lived the nearest to God, men who would sacrifice life itself rather than knowingly commit a wrong act, men whom God has honored with divine light and power, have confessed the sinfulness of their nature. They have put no confidence in the flesh, have claimed no righteousness of their own, but have trusted wholly in the righteousness of Christ." {Acts of the Apostles 561.1}
What a good conversation. Thankyou for the quotes and scriptures.
Beautiful truth by which to live.
To be honest, Walter is a great teacher. This is good stuff, for real. I need to pay more attention to “what’s up Prof ?” Blessings brethren!
Thank you thank you thank you!!!!! I have been studying this over a year with all the research praying and Bible reading I have come up with the same conclusion here almost verbatim in some points made me scream with joy!!!! The correct understanding of righteousness by faith is the bottom line!! The majority of times offshoots/independence have this wrong and spread out in several different directions with the mask of different issues-Father/Son, Reforms etc but if you look behind the mask of whatever movement this is the underlying issue the majority of the time! And why? People underestimate the blinding power of Satan-He HATES the righteousness of Christ
At 43 minutes - good discussion about after probation closes and we are standing without a mediator. Appreciate the logic on debunking some of those myths about this time period.
So important the phrasing "within their sphere" - I often think of those that are saved just prior to the close of probation. Those that have known the truth for decades are in a different 'sphere' than those that have more recently come to Truth. Jesus is the same throughout time - and just as the thief on the cross will make it to heaven because of faith in the merits of Christ, so to will those that are the last converts before the sealing takes place. Great - you came back to this very issue at 58 minutes, and even speaking of the thief on the cross.
Really appreciated the talk about 'presumption'. It takes so many forms, and so often masquerades as faith. When I first came to Christ it was in a Sunday keeping denomination. They preached a 'name it claim it' sort of doctrine; where IF you had sufficient faith and stepped out in that faith - THEN God would bless you to attain. I was a baby Christian, but stepped out in a huge way and was CERTAIN God would fulfill the object of that step. SPLAT !!! Nearly ruined my life and that of my family. We can always know that when things don't go as we desire - we need to look at our apprehensions and suppositions, and not blame God. Anyway after some study God opened to me more truth on discerning between presumption and faith. Even Jesus Himself did not take the 'bait' on stepping off the precipice and the angels catching his feet; and yet we the supposed people of God so often do so.
And yet there is a presumption as well on the other side - the side of taking NO step and doing NOTHING. There are those even in Adventism that hold that since they can do nothing on their own and that Christ will take care of them; ...that they need not trouble themselves in working towards those objects, whether it be greater scriptural knowledge (getting settled in the truth) or fidelity to Christ or in physical preparations in a world being turned upside down. For example, we have had a warning for over a hundred years about getting out of the cities, and yet many that God has blessed with the proper time and resources have not done so. Certainly there are some in city ministries which may not be able without leaving their God given duty; and God will bless their faithfulness. And yet there is a larger class which squander the resources given them by God for vacations, ostentation, and articles of pleasure, instead of relocating and meaningfully learning to garden and make other physical and mental preparations - and yet they still expect that God will bless them with what they need through the little time of trouble. They are presuming upon God, and that presumption will likely bear a very bitter harvest.
Thank you for a clear explanation.
1. The reason why Christ had to come to earth as a babe was, though born sinless, he had to develop a perfect human character, which was achieved by His total reliance and faith in His Father;
2. By his faith in God, Abraham was accounted righteous, Galatians 3:6;
3. Therefore, the righteous will be saved because they are found to fulfill Revelation 14:12; “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God and have the faith OF Jesus.”
4. In conclusion: “Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy,” Jude 24
How uplifting and positive it was with the thief at the cross. Even he will come to heaven one day, not studied the Bible, not baptized, he just put all his trust in Jesus Christ. It's that simple. ❤️
The thief on the Cross according to the book Desire of Ages was convicted and gave his life to Christ but was turned away by the scribes and Pharisees and went back to his old friends and was caught up with them and given the death penalty. Praise God that he was still convicted that Christ was the Messiah on the Cross received pardon and will have eternal life at the second coming. Not all will have that opportunity at the Cross as the thief did so I hope that you study your Bible diligently and make your salvation sure. God bless
Amen and amen; praise be to our God for ever and ever
Amen Brother's , thank you for the nourishment , God Bless you .!!!
Hallelujah unto GOD’S ALMIGHTY SON
The final concluded the message in the best way
Thank you so much for this Talk! I cannot begin to tell you how encouraging it has been for me to learn this wonderful truth. God bless the both of you
Thank you so much 🙏
Looking forward to part 2 on Friday morning Brisbane Australian time 😀
Discernment and motivation in uncertaint times . Truly appreciated god bless you both.
Me too. Looking forward to this episode. Time is ticking...
Amen
This discussion has put peace in my heart knowing that we don't have to become perfect on our own, but through Christ. I recently heard other ministries push last generation theology and became very discouraged. I have been praying for discernment and this video has answered my prayers. Thank you AD.
Eagerly waiting as always. Greetings and blessings from Croatia!
This was a very good discussion. The bottom line is that we are covered by the righteousness of Christ and that is the only thing that qualifies us to enter heaven with or without a mediator. I do think the last generation is going to go through hell starting from the enforcement of the mark of the beast through the time of trouble which some past generations didn’t have to experience so the seal of God is necessary for survival. I do think the seal is more than just settling into the truth but God’s supernatural means of keeping you from falling and shielding you from temptation otherwise it would seem like man’s own effort to be settled into the truth. Maybe Walter and Martin should do a session of what it means to be settled into the truth.
They have done so time and again.
AMEN. Thank you Walter and Martin.
Amen... Thanks bunches❣️❣️❣️
I am SHARING this to seasoned SDA for clarity . THANK YOU very much. I learned a lot .word is not enough FOR your ministry.
Most of them are members of the general conference, which has been back in bed with Rome. I even went to a service at a little country conference church and was appalled at what they were teaching and all of it was NIV, NKJV and other Vaticanus Vulgate texts. They have left their first Love.
So blessed with this content !
Dank jullie wel voor deze studie het heeft mij veel geholpen🙏🙏🙏🙏
Praise the Lord!!
Looking forward to Part 2!
Part 1 was excellent!!
Thank you so much from NZ
About the thief on the cross... he asked the other thief if he doesn’t fear God? This was the 1st Angel message. One thief accepted Christ as His only SAVIOR and then he tried to witness to the other thief the 1st Angel Message. The other thief rejected it and had fallen just like Babylon .
You see the characteristics of the 3 Angel Messages can be found in all the histories of the Bible’s. These messages prepare Gods people to stand in the Day of the Lord, which is Sunday Law onward until the earth begins its own Sabbath, the 1000 years.
Praise the Lord!!
😱😱😱🔥🔥 WOW! praise God
Thank you 😍
Thank God for this study. I needed to hear this.
i love this presentation and it has given me more light. Especially is it so much deeply shown in the SOP than i ever thought.
Bro Walter kindly have some quotations on this issue of predestination by Waggoner and Jones and kindly share the same with us in your next presentation.
God is Good
Waiting patiently
Being smart and informed is not enough! We need to put on Christ! Overcome as He did! He showed us the way. He said: "Go and sin no more".
Just like He presented to the adulteress, equal application of Grace (neither do I condemn you) and the law (go and sin no more). 👍
Love from Bharat
I want to ask a question to Professor Veith, a man of God that inspires me every time I listen to his videos. A question regarding Baptism. Is it Biblical to be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19) or to be baptized only in the name of Jesus, as in Acts 2: 38?. Thanks Professor Veith, may God be with you and support you in your precious ministry!
Amen!
Appreciate the respectful manner in which this is presented. There is much Truth, but where I differ is in the idea that there is no difference between the last generation and previous generations. By definition, the last generation lives without an Intercessor which no other generation has ever done; they sing the song of Moses and if The Lamb, which none other will be allowed to do, and they sing a new song which no one else could learn except the 144,000 (see Revelation 14:3; 15:3,4). They also endure a time if terrible such as has never been (which again makes them unique!); Daniel 12:1. They have a special place and heaven, as they have an exclusive experience with Christ that others never did partake of. Otherwise there's no reason to single out the hundred and forty four thousand. I definitely agree though, that this will be no less an act of Grace by the Almighty then it was for any other generation. But it is so clear. The final generation will not merely have the experience of Abraham, Adam, Noah, Lot, it even Job, but they will have they go through the Gethsemane experience of Jesus Christ who did no sin, because in his agony he declared, "not my will but thy will be done." He had the ability to sin, but did no sin. No one who takes this stance (of not my will but Thine) will be living in willful or even unwillful sin, lest God should be made a liar, and lest it be possible to be led of the Spirit and led into sin (see Galatians 5:16). Special indeed, but no less an act of God's grace. Further, if we're going to say that not being able to send means not having a choice oh, then you have to say the same thing about choosing to follow Jesus. Can the people decide to stop following Jesus after the decree goes forth? Yes! Will they? No! If that is true of their commitment to Jesus, why would it not also be true of their decision to not sin?
re: the utterings @ the 1:03:00 mark, it was a reminder to me of the
dec. 7 (p. 350 if not mistaken) of the e.g.w. devotional book titled, 'this day with God',
where the specific reading titled "Eternal Loss" on the aforementioned day,
tempers some preconceived ideas we'd had about a differing of attainments upon reaching heaven;
btw, while we're at it, since veith a few times throughout made allusion to meeting people that had declared themselves to be sinless, I cannot help to think of a specific case that he mentions in 1 of his life testimonies, where a man went to veith's house & upon walter opening the door, the man told veith 'i am perfect; I don't have anymore a craving for cheese'-),
& upon telling that true anecdote that happened to him, he stated that he wouldn't believe that something like that would happen unless he'd seen it with its own eyes; of how brazenly presumptuous people could get, this side of heaven..
We if faithful will find out in ages to come. TIME has to do with justification and Sanctification.
Please elaborate on the subject that Christ had no propensity to sin. Thank you.
Read the paragraphs following to a reference he used:
Be careful, exceedingly careful as to how you dwell upon the human nature of Christ. Do not set Him before the people as a man with the propensities of sin. He is the second Adam. The first Adam was created a pure, sinless being, without a taint of sin upon him; he was in the image of God. He could fall, and he did fall through transgressing. Because of sin, his posterity was born with inherent propensities of disobedience. But Jesus Christ was the only begotten Son of God. He took upon Himself human nature, and was tempted in all points as human nature is tempted. He could have sinned; He could have fallen, but not for one moment was there in Him an evil propensity. He was assailed with temptations in the wilderness, as Adam was assailed with temptations in Eden. 13MR 18.1
Bro. Baker, avoid every question in relation to the humanity of Christ which is liable to be misunderstood. Truth lies close to the track of presumption. In treating upon the humanity of Christ, you need to guard strenuously every assertion, lest your words be taken to mean more than they imply, and thus you lose or dim the clear perceptions of His humanity as combined with divinity. His birth was a miracle of God; for, said the angel, “Behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great and shall be called the son of the Highest; and the Lord shall give unto him the throne of his Father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing that I know not a man? And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.” 13MR 18.2
These words are not addressed to any human being, except to the Son of the Infinite God. Never, in any way, leave the slightest impression upon human minds that a taint of, or inclination to corruption rested upon Christ, or that He in any way yielded to corruption. He was tempted in all points like as man is tempted, yet He is called that holy thing. It is a mystery that is left unexplained to mortals that Christ could be tempted in all points like as we are, and yet be without sin. The incarnation of Christ has ever been, and will ever remain a mystery. That which is revealed, is for us and for our children, but let every human being be warned from the ground of making Christ altogether human, such an one as ourselves: for it cannot be. The exact time when humanity blended with divinity, it is not necessary for us to know. We are to keep our feet on the rock, Christ Jesus, as God revealed in humanity. 13MR 19.1
I perceive that there is danger in approaching subjects which dwell on the humanity of the Son of the infinite God. He did humble Himself when He saw He was in fashion as a man, that He might understand the force of all temptations wherewith man is beset. 13MR 19.2
The first Adam fell: the second Adam held fast to God and His word under the most trying circumstances, and His faith in His Father's goodness, mercy, and love did not waver for one moment. “It is written” was His weapon of resistance, and it is the sword of the Spirit which every human being is to use. “Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me”-nothing to respond to temptation. Not one occasion has been given in response to His manifold temptations. Not once did Christ step on Satan's ground, to give him any advantage. Satan found nothing in Him to encourage his advances. 13MR 19.3
As teachers we need to understand that the object and teaching of our Lord was to simplify in all His instruction, the nature and the necessity of the moral excellence of character which God through His Son has made every provision that human agents should obtain, that they may be laborers together with Jesus Christ. This God requires, and to this end the ministers of the gospel should work, both in their education of the people, and in the ministry of the word. 13MR 20.1
We are not sinless but we are to purpose in our hearts never to sin against God as given by example in Jesus as he declared himself without sin KJV John 14:30-31
30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.
If Jesus is our example than we must always do as he has done with humble and contrite heart