@@MichiganGreatOutdoors i have a question for you. i’m sure you prolly did but was the bolt tight and both of the bushings the right orientation. i’ve seen tethrd people saying to tighten bolt and make sure washers haven’t moved causing the play on it side to side. i’m really tempted to try a cfx that’s the only thing keeping me from getting one
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors My sticks are 3 step and 2 step Hawks. I use the 3 step as my bottom stick. My platforms are a Trophy Line and a Treehopper platform (which I use most often). I leave my sticks stashed/hidden in areas I hunt.. Heart issues, so the less I carry, the better.. And I am in the SE so the deer are tiny and easy to drag HAHAHA And I make sure I am dragging downhill as much as possible LOL
The one ive been waiting for. Thanks for your opinion. The biggest reason i returned mine when it first released was the total lack of downwards leveling adjustment. Im a leaner and always like a nice downwards angle. The CFX runs out of adjustment super quick so if you were to setup in a leaning tree opposite the lean youre screwed. I agree with it being a first gen product. Needs some refinement and sharper teeth.
I appreciate the honest review. The way that it flexs and pivots around that bolt is red flags... When trophyline releases the hyperlite platform, that'll be interesting. If they ever release an Onyx Hyperlite, it'll be game over then.
Great review! My friend bought one and he’s a smaller guy than I am and he says he has the same kind of play in the platform as well. Not sure if it’s because it is carbon or if like you said, it’s the size of the bolt hole. Super excited for this upcoming season!
Any issues with the post not lining up and fitting in square? After some use the post is off just enough that I have to push it left or right to fall in the space to fold it.
yeah actually, the wedge washers move inside and become off set then the post is off center. I had recorded all of that to add to my video and it was a jumbled mess so I had to cut that portion out of the review.
Carbon fiber is an amazing material and it has it's use cases. It also has things that it is NOT well suited for. The post and tree bracket are NOT one of them. They will have problems. You look at other carbon fiber use cases, like mountain biking for example, everywhere there is a critical joint, like the bottom bracket, there is always aluminum reinforcement.
Like the idea but steep price for little more room. I have the hawk helium Tethrd knock off and find it to be plenty of room. Now the Arsenal smaller version for same money you get a better packable package. Or stick with original for half price. I’m also smaller guy at 5’9, 205lbs with size 9 foot. I luv the direction things are goin though with all the innovations in new gear.
I love your reviews! I’ve been looking at the Cruzr mini and was wondering if you’ve had any experience with them? I’ve only seen a few reviews on here but I really liked the looks of it.
I'm surprised that it's heavier than the original predator. I know it's bigger, but for that price point, i don't think the weight savings are worth the cost.
@Rooster_king well the carbon platform is more sized to the regular predator xl but I don't have an XL in aluminum. Seeing off tethrds website th aluminum one is over 5lbs so apples to apples it's 2 lbs lighter than it's larger brother.
Tethrd calls this platform “Carbon”, just like Latitude calls their sticks “Carbon”, but that’s just Marketing hype. This “Carbon” material is just nylon plastic with 33-50% carbon fiber reinforcement. Nothing wrong with fiber-reinforced plastic, if designed correctly of course. But don’t fall for the hype and think you’re getting some “Space Age” Material. I’m impressed that it can hold up to your weight. That rocking around the hole is worrisome though. Injection molded plastic-which is what this is-have what the industry calls “knit lines” around any holes, and they’re points of weakness. A better design would have a larger hole with bosses and gussets on both sides to dissipate the stresses. Small holes concentrate stresses. I’d wait for design 2.0.
Thanks for the input! You obviously must work in the trade? My uncle works in injection molding, I should ask him his opinion on the design…. It makes sense what you are saying!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors yes I’m an injection molding engineer. What Tethrd did here is what everyone does when they convert a cast aluminum part to an injection molded plastic part: they use the same exact design! Plastic parts need to be designed a bit differently than aluminum, as I’m sure your uncle will confirm.
With the flex that I seen when you were on it seems like you'd be a little bit more comfortable because of the actually flex.Not ridged like the aluminum.. $300 though OUCH!!! You can send it my way since your not keeping it .. LOL😅...
Flex doesn't bother me, just that the teeth seem to constantly get loose and u have to re cam. I'll probably list it for sale soon, shoot me a message if your interested 🤙🤙
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors wow that is really unfortunate! He made absolutely fantastic gear, loved how if you could think of it he could make it for you!!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I absolutely love your channel and that’s how I first discovered TX5!! do you happen to know of anyone else that does similar things as he did with custom gear stuff like that?!?
Thanks man, I appreciate it! If it was me I would reach out to TX5 and ask them directly, or message Mathew Thompkins and ask. If not Back woods mobile gear would be my first choice then Custom Gear Modifications
Awww🤢 all i see is my shins getting peeled like a banana in cold weather when that hinge point snaps off of the platform... Unless they impregnated that area with aluminum reinforcements before the injection mold process took place. But the price point is not for me, so i guess that will never happen.
Thank you for the honest review.
Your welcome
great review. can’t wait to see what you think of the lockdown. i did multiple all day sits and its been my favorite i’ve used
I haven't decided when I will do that one but probably sooner than later. I sat in it for several hunts last season and enjoyed it.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors i have a question for you. i’m sure you prolly did but was the bolt tight and both of the bushings the right orientation. i’ve seen tethrd people saying to tighten bolt and make sure washers haven’t moved causing the play on it side to side. i’m really tempted to try a cfx that’s the only thing keeping me from getting one
I use the cam straps for my platforms and my bottom, double step aider stick and Amsteel for my other 2 or 3 sticks (single aider).
What system u running?
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors My sticks are 3 step and 2 step Hawks. I use the 3 step as my bottom stick. My platforms are a Trophy Line and a Treehopper platform (which I use most often). I leave my sticks stashed/hidden in areas I hunt.. Heart issues, so the less I carry, the better.. And I am in the SE so the deer are tiny and easy to drag HAHAHA And I make sure I am dragging downhill as much as possible LOL
Sweet vid man, keep up the production I’m lovin it 👍
Appreciate it! Got more coming!!
The one ive been waiting for. Thanks for your opinion. The biggest reason i returned mine when it first released was the total lack of downwards leveling adjustment. Im a leaner and always like a nice downwards angle. The CFX runs out of adjustment super quick so if you were to setup in a leaning tree opposite the lean youre screwed. I agree with it being a first gen product. Needs some refinement and sharper teeth.
Seems like that’s the trend in mobile hunting gear these days, AVOID gen 1 products!!
Well would you look at that. A really nice, super lightweight, rugged platform that's affordable. Excellent!! I'll buy one of these.
buy 2!!
I bought one when they were first released too. I agree with your findings but I think I’m going to keep mine.
Right on! I wanna keep it but I can't keep em all!!
I appreciate the honest review. The way that it flexs and pivots around that bolt is red flags... When trophyline releases the hyperlite platform, that'll be interesting. If they ever release an Onyx Hyperlite, it'll be game over then.
I will admit, the hyperlight stuff looks and seems amazing so far.
Hopefully they got all the bugs nailed out of them for gen 1.
Great review! My friend bought one and he’s a smaller guy than I am and he says he has the same kind of play in the platform as well. Not sure if it’s because it is carbon or if like you said, it’s the size of the bolt hole. Super excited for this upcoming season!
Thanks, I really wish it had a tighter tolerance built in! 86 days!!!
Any issues with the post not lining up and fitting in square? After some use the post is off just enough that I have to push it left or right to fall in the space to fold it.
yeah actually, the wedge washers move inside and become off set then the post is off center. I had recorded all of that to add to my video and it was a jumbled mess so I had to cut that portion out of the review.
Carbon fiber is an amazing material and it has it's use cases. It also has things that it is NOT well suited for. The post and tree bracket are NOT one of them. They will have problems. You look at other carbon fiber use cases, like mountain biking for example, everywhere there is a critical joint, like the bottom bracket, there is always aluminum reinforcement.
Thanks for sharing this information, really good stuff!!
I'd be interested in seeing you do a review on the Tree Styx climbing sticks.
@@JP-jl8ur I want em but haven't pulled the trigger yet... very expensive sticks!!
I would also love to see this review. Only channel that gives it straight
I appreciate that!
Like the idea but steep price for little more room. I have the hawk helium Tethrd knock off and find it to be plenty of room. Now the Arsenal smaller version for same money you get a better packable package. Or stick with original for half price. I’m also smaller guy at 5’9, 205lbs with size 9 foot. I luv the direction things are goin though with all the innovations in new gear.
It's a phenomenal time to be a mobil hunter! Excited to see when they drop the smaller on
I love your reviews! I’ve been looking at the Cruzr mini and was wondering if you’ve had any experience with them? I’ve only seen a few reviews on here but I really liked the looks of it.
@devingrimes8851 I've never tried a cruzr platform. I know staggs in the wild has some videos on it!
I'm surprised that it's heavier than the original predator. I know it's bigger, but for that price point, i don't think the weight savings are worth the cost.
@Rooster_king well the carbon platform is more sized to the regular predator xl but I don't have an XL in aluminum. Seeing off tethrds website th aluminum one is over 5lbs so apples to apples it's 2 lbs lighter than it's larger brother.
When you sell that you can buy the Tree Styx. 😂😂 I’m not giving up till you test those. Try the Sladder too
Hahahah, I still will need a few hundred bucks lol them tree Styx are fancy priced!!
When's it going to be recalled? I'm guessing November 😂😂😂😂
I hope not....
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors with tethrd track record I'm way too hesitant to drop $350.
I understand. I do @@SavagelandHunting
Tethrd calls this platform “Carbon”, just like Latitude calls their sticks “Carbon”, but that’s just Marketing hype. This “Carbon” material is just nylon plastic with 33-50% carbon fiber reinforcement.
Nothing wrong with fiber-reinforced plastic, if designed correctly of course. But don’t fall for the hype and think you’re getting some “Space Age” Material.
I’m impressed that it can hold up to your weight. That rocking around the hole is worrisome though. Injection molded plastic-which is what this is-have what the industry calls “knit lines” around any holes, and they’re points of weakness. A better design would have a larger hole with bosses and gussets on both sides to dissipate the stresses. Small holes concentrate stresses.
I’d wait for design 2.0.
Thanks for the input! You obviously must work in the trade? My uncle works in injection molding, I should ask him his opinion on the design…. It makes sense what you are saying!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors yes I’m an injection molding engineer. What Tethrd did here is what everyone does when they convert a cast aluminum part to an injection molded plastic part: they use the same exact design! Plastic parts need to be designed a bit differently than aluminum, as I’m sure your uncle will confirm.
Thanks for the insight! I love learning about how things are made!!
With the flex that I seen when you were on it seems like you'd be a little bit more comfortable because of the actually flex.Not ridged like the aluminum.. $300 though OUCH!!! You can send it my way since your not keeping it .. LOL😅...
Flex doesn't bother me, just that the teeth seem to constantly get loose and u have to re cam. I'll probably list it for sale soon, shoot me a message if your interested 🤙🤙
Would it be better for a real small dude?
@@mr.skeptical3071 maybe?
With the news about latitude and TX 5 does that mean TX 5 won’t be able to make custom orders anymore??? no more TX 5 branded gear?!? 😢😢
Well thats a really good question, my gut tells me there will be no more custom orders...
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors wow that is really unfortunate! He made absolutely fantastic gear, loved how if you could think of it he could make it for you!!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I absolutely love your channel and that’s how I first discovered TX5!! do you happen to know of anyone else that does similar things as he did with custom gear stuff like that?!?
Thanks man, I appreciate it! If it was me I would reach out to TX5 and ask them directly, or message Mathew Thompkins and ask. If not Back woods mobile gear would be my first choice then Custom Gear Modifications
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors ok thanks man!!! Hope you’re doing well!
For that price point, hard to see any benefits over an Arsenal Mag 2.0
Very good point and the rzr magnum is also lighter!
Awww🤢 all i see is my shins getting peeled like a banana in cold weather when that hinge point snaps off of the platform... Unless they impregnated that area with aluminum reinforcements before the injection mold process took place. But the price point is not for me, so i guess that will never happen.
I am not sure if they did, I think not.
plastic
Carbon infused plastic maybe...