9 Huge LIES about Self Publishing Nobody Talks About

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  • @beescheeseandwineplease889
    @beescheeseandwineplease889 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +120

    I recently read a book from a local author that was so clean and well edited, and the cover was so well done I assumed it was traditionally published, but to my surprise I later found out it was self-published. That is when I changed my mind about self publishing.

    • @vinyoung1883
      @vinyoung1883 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What book was it?! Can we know?? :)

    • @Novastar.SaberCombat
      @Novastar.SaberCombat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It do be what it do be. Marketing is all that matters, unfortunately.
      🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨

    • @nohashtagshere4116
      @nohashtagshere4116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Name of the book?
      Or at least the author ?

  • @YanisNiederegger
    @YanisNiederegger 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    Never stop making videos. You are so criminally underrated

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Thank you! I'm having fun and doing my best.

    • @murphcallahan5892
      @murphcallahan5892 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Underrated? Not by me anyway! I'm hearing more from him in one video than many other teachers combined.

    • @kuhpunkt
      @kuhpunkt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If he's so underrated, why doesn't he answer simple questions to backup his claims?

  • @Falconlibrary
    @Falconlibrary 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    I have two friends who are published authors.
    One is a traditionally published author of crime thrillers.
    The other is a self-published author of crime thrillers.
    Both pay for their own marketing, but only the second one makes a full-time living from writing, because self-publishing allows her to keep 70% of the revenue her books generate.

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I've heard stories like this quite frequently! Traditionally published certainly gets you more prestige, but if you're just after money, self publishing is the way to go.

    • @authorericar.stinson4849
      @authorericar.stinson4849 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This is the way!

  • @AlienSpaceCat123
    @AlienSpaceCat123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I'm a self-published author who struggles with marketing. Your "Your First Best-Seller" course has been a game-changer for me. I would wholeheartedly recommend it.

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Oh, thanks for the kind words! So glad you enjoyed it and it helped you.

  • @carololiveira4831
    @carololiveira4831 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Both copy editing and cover design are extremely important for self-publishing. As a reader, I never judge a book by its publisher, but I do judge it by its cover, because that’s what the cover is there for (however, as a book designer, I might be biased)

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      No, I agree with you. There's no sense in wasting money on marketing if you don't have a beautiful cover.

    • @Novastar.SaberCombat
      @Novastar.SaberCombat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Some of us lack the funding for marketing, but everything else is exemplary (including storytelling, color palettes, thematic underpinnings, cover designs, editing, videos, original music, etc.). But none of that stuff matters, LMAO! 😂🤣😂 If you ain't rich and popular, then you ain't sheet. No exceptions.
      🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨
      "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind’s journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul’s fate revealed. In time, all points converge, hope’s strength resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe’s endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again."
      🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨
      --Diamond Dragons (series)

  • @dorysmith2776
    @dorysmith2776 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    As a reader, I never look at the publisher before I choose a book. However, I expect self-published books to have editing errors I will have to overlook.

    • @RedbeardJack
      @RedbeardJack 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That is a weird thing, I don't typically look at it either and it has no bearing on what to read. It ONLY seems to be the service they provide in getting your story polished and published.
      However, just because they edit it doesn't mean it's perfect. I'm currently reading the Shannara series on my channel, and wow, especially the first book is loaded with huge sentences and weird structures that really should have been changed. It's a fun series, but better listened to than read yourself I think.

    • @dorysmith2776
      @dorysmith2776 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@RedbeardJackI know what you mean. I published my first book with a publisher, and his edits were terrible! He honestly made things worse. I self-published the rest of my books, and as a retired HS English teacher did a far better job of editing than the original publisher.

    • @unhommequicourt
      @unhommequicourt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@dorysmith2776 i ve read traditionally published novels with tons of typos

    • @RedbeardJack
      @RedbeardJack 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dorysmith2776 I have a suspicion, too, that the more popular authors receive better support in this. Stephen King will have a small team of editors maybe, while a new author gets the intern. Haha

  • @jamesballard42
    @jamesballard42 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    A quick kudo out to you for making super tight videos with almost zero fluff. Even when you pitched your course in the middle, it was over before it started. Oh, and your content kicks ass!

  • @ronaldlabelle9264
    @ronaldlabelle9264 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    👏🏼 I love this point of view. Another great one!
    I’m a bit of a unicorn in that I was an artist and a graphic designer *before* I put serious effort into writing. Sometimes i consider hiring a really high end pro to do my covers, but then I have to balance it being less personal. I’m all about the realtionship between my story and the reader. I’m not worried at all about prestige, i want to entertain. :)
    I appreciate that you brought up these points. The split between my friends who loved my first books and praised them, and the friends who thought I had forfeited any hope of being taken seriously and refused to read my books purely because i self-pubbed … it’s really striking. It does show that alot of what the reader experiences is in their own head and is only loosely tied to your book, until they read it of course.

  • @jessicacopeland9066
    @jessicacopeland9066 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Probably going to self publish because of health problems. Have had cancer and heart issues that have basically disabled me. Some days I can’t write due to chest pain. If I self publish, I don’t have to worry about deadlines and can focus on myself too.

  • @trishamessmer2610
    @trishamessmer2610 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Such a great video! Break those myths! What's sad is that so many people think going trad will take care of marketing, and getting a contract will land them on the morning talk shows or get lots of press. Not true unless you've had a proven track record of selling lots of books for the publisher. I'm glad you brought that one up.
    Plus there are some people who think all publishers are created equal. There are some small publishers who do more harm than good for the author. I've had friends who've been burned like that when they would have been better off self-publishing. I made the decision to self publish six years ago and haven't looked back. It's been good to me.

  • @lilyduarte5298
    @lilyduarte5298 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I've never been this early omg. As someone who is still heavily leaning towards trad (or at least wanting to try), this came at a good time because I want to keep self publishing open as an option as well.

  • @arissarox
    @arissarox 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As an editor, I appreciate the copyeditor love!

  • @ohiodan63
    @ohiodan63 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I just self-published my first novel because I wanted to get my book to market and start getting feedback sooner rather than later so I can write a better book next time. I plan on reaching out to agents and pursuing traditional publishing after I build a foundation by self publishing a couple titles. I did hire a beta reader as a contractor to assist with editing and proofreading. In the gig economy, you have access to a lot of tools that self published authors of the past would’ve had a harder time finding.

    • @Falconlibrary
      @Falconlibrary 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Check agents' pages. Almost all of them say they won't accept self-published authors.

    • @ohiodan63
      @ohiodan63 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Falconlibrary Most won’t accept work that has been self published or intends to be. But it doesn’t mean they won’t look at a new, unpublished manuscript for traditional publication just because an author has, at any point in the past, self-published a book.

  • @J.D.Paterborn
    @J.D.Paterborn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I discovered your channel a while ago as I'm dipping my toes into a career in fiction (or at least for now, a sun side-hustle). I wanted to explore self-pub more and more in recent weeks, just came to TH-cam to look for an evaluation of viability less than 3 hours after you posted this video. Talk about perfect timing! Thank you for spelling out so much of what I've suspected in my recent research. This was great stuff. Keep it up.

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Welcome to the channel! Good luck with your book.

  • @scottyvanantwerp
    @scottyvanantwerp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I appreciate you. Every single video you have put out has been so informative! Thank you for what you do, who you are, and that you share it!

  • @cloudycloudy5340
    @cloudycloudy5340 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Your videos help me a lot!
    I plan to self-publish a book in the future, and your videos seem to help my anxiety about not being able to gain any readers. Keep up the good work, I’m sure it’s helping a ton of people.

  • @asquirrelplays
    @asquirrelplays 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I paid a "copy editor" $3,000 to edit my book (120k words, fantasy). She supposedly worked at some big places like Penguin as a lead editor and had been doing this work for a good long while. Man oh man. Either she lied out her rear end or she let the dog do it because there were so many typos/issues still present. Even after sending it back and pointing out all the issues she still managed to miss them again then just disappeared. I need to get it re-edited, but man paying for an editor twice really sucks.

    • @grooviechickie
      @grooviechickie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We had this exact problem! 😢

    • @zanyawesome30
      @zanyawesome30 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Dude I could do a better job and I'd wouldn't even charge more than 800, probably less. 3000 is a scam for not making it perfect

    • @orcanerdc6204
      @orcanerdc6204 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A friend wrote a book he had copy edited and I asked to read it. I caught a ton of errors. Continuity errors, grammar, etc. Every instance of me vs I was wrong...every single one!

    • @Paul_Wetor
      @Paul_Wetor หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I had an editor look over my 100-page novel and she did a great job. She gave me a Word document with suggestions and comments in detail for every page. Then she had a 9-page commentary about what I could do to improve the story. I was mainly focused on the plot but she was thinking about character development. I think I even talked to her over the phone first (it was a few years ago). I got lucky finding her.

  • @sethlowen2303
    @sethlowen2303 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I definitely regret going with a traditional publisher. There was so much back and forth on the editing process that the book hardly sounds like my writing style anymore. They pretty much flat out said all the advertising would be on the author (this was after I already signed the contract). And it took almost three years to get the book published.
    I’m only a year into the publication and it’s been such a terrible process. Thankfully there’s an exit clause in my contract, but the publisher is being stubborn about it. There’s a good chance I may need to find legal help to get out of this.
    Needless to say, I’m definitely going the self publishing route next time.

    • @blossom357
      @blossom357 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Curious, is this a big or small publisher?

    • @sethlowen2303
      @sethlowen2303 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@blossom357 it’s a smaller publisher

    • @blossom357
      @blossom357 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sethlowen2303 Hm. And I thought small publishers might be a good choice. Maybe I should consider self-publishing then, despite having a poor opinion of it. I could try to be part of the change.

    • @SafetyKitten
      @SafetyKitten หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good luck with that man

  • @heathersmith8549
    @heathersmith8549 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My library system doesn’t carry self published books. And being in libraries is very important.

    • @davidsandrock7826
      @davidsandrock7826 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Did they stop carrying Brandon Sanderson’s new books when he started self publishing?

  • @TiagoFreire
    @TiagoFreire 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome video, I have been working on a serialized fiction story, but I don't have any publishe works, and I was willing to try self-publishing, but was full of doubts. You gave me more confidence to follow through with my project!

  • @grooviechickie
    @grooviechickie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Perfect timing. Thank you for your very helpful and informative vid.
    About finding a good editor... it's decidedly tricky! We went onto Reedsy, found an editor who really looked the business, paid $5k(AUD), and got back a half-arsed attempt that took him... oh, maybe a day? When I pointed out all the stuff he didn't do (some painfully obvious), Reedsy ended up refunding us a percentage. Not nearly enough. He was a shonky editor. I hope they got rid of him because that was a very expensive experience.
    So, we did the rest of the editing ourselves. Took us 7 months to make it as tight and perfect as we could.
    Good news is we uploaded it to Amazon yesterday. We paid a friend (graphic designer) to do the splendid cover. I really can't wait to have my partner's memoir in my hands!
    The best thing about this experience? I'm enrolling in a postgraduate degree in editing and digital publishing. ❤
    Now we just have to work on the marketing. 😂

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, I never recommend Reedsy. I've heard too many experiences just like yours.
      But congrats on the book! And good news about the postdoc degree as well. Just spoke to a publishing MA class last night about being a developmental editor.

    • @grooviechickie
      @grooviechickie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Bookfox I did not know how bad they were, sadly. The thing is, we're far from being rich people. That was a LOT of money for us to lose. If I had known about Reedsy...
      At least it forced us to do a lot more work and we have both grown - he as a writer and me as an editor. This combination was explosive at times, leading to very heated discussions, but we worked it out.
      I'm so proud of him, especially considering that English is not his native language.

  • @3dchick
    @3dchick 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    As a genre writer who mostly does series, I'd never go trad. Once you sign over those rights, if the publisher decides not to publish the later volumes you can't do it yourself, because of non-compete clauses.

  • @Johnny5477
    @Johnny5477 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I think I’ve decided to go tradpub for one reason: I’m not really a series writer. I want to mostly focus on standalones.

  • @ZeljanaMiljevic
    @ZeljanaMiljevic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Every single traditionally published book that I’ve read has half a dozen grammatical errors and at least one or two plot holes.

    • @Novastar.SaberCombat
      @Novastar.SaberCombat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly. It's all about marketing, not storytelling, editing, character arcs, thematic underpinnings, world-building, etc. 💪😎✌️ Wealth is the primary factor in product promotion and success; no exceptions.

  • @joletapetty6706
    @joletapetty6706 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think I need to set a reminder to watch this video every single month. Thank-you so much, this is exactly what I needed to hear 🥰

  • @24pfilms
    @24pfilms หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you! Getting massive positive info from your video!

  • @squeakyscauldron
    @squeakyscauldron 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    And for self pubbed books in bookstores- I live in Dubai. Kinokuniya is by far the largest bookstore here. It is STACKED with self pubbed books. Makes me so happy every time I go in.

  • @squeakyscauldron
    @squeakyscauldron 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your finger wag on the marketing aspect of trad publishing thoroughly delighted me 🤣

  • @salientrogue3117
    @salientrogue3117 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It took me almost 2 years into my writing journey to find your channel. I picked up your book about linchpin moments, have written more and better ever since finding it, and this video cleared up the trad vs self-pub. I have an extensive marketing background but I thought trad would do the work. This just convinced me to self publish. Thank you.

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you found me, and thanks for picking up a copy of Linchpin!
      And yes, unfortunately, the marketing help of trad publishers is limited -- I know a lot of people who hire a publicist to do what the publisher doesn't have time to do.

  • @nebezial1
    @nebezial1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this was a shockingly useful video. thank you so much for this! have a like, comment and subscription cause i was actually considering self publishing my upcoming novel and this really clarified some stuff for me!

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it helped! And thanks for the sub.

  • @SpanishEclectic
    @SpanishEclectic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really great updated information. Understanding the options, but also the why and what are your goals makes the difference.

  • @The3dge
    @The3dge 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What is a reasonable budget for self publishing a book? Edit, cover, layout, marketing?

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Edit: $2000.
      Cover: $500
      Layout: $100
      Marketing: Spend as much or as little as you want.

  • @RayPoreon
    @RayPoreon หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The topic on how self-pub lets you choose how to price your book reminded me of something Pirate Software said. He's a game dev(and offensive security expert) but I think it applies here.
    If you sell a game too cheap people might see it as just quickly made slop or shovel, you would essentially be selling your game that low because you're not confident that it's good enough to warrant people to pay for it. Sell it for too much and nobody is going to buy it since people aren't expecting the same sort of size and polish from an indie game as they would from AAA, so they aren't going to pay that high. The trick is to find a middle ground, something high enough to demand respect but low enough to be a realistic ask.
    It's why some of the biggest indie games didn't ask for more than ten dollars or so.

  • @awakz100
    @awakz100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Awesome vid, cleared up a lot of my personal misconceptions

  • @richardleduc2193
    @richardleduc2193 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a great video. I particularly liked the advice on the seven steps for making a living as a self-published author. Thanks for continually producing such useful content.

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @IguessColin
    @IguessColin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for all of that! Really appreciate your thorough and engaging presentation!

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're very welcome.

  • @ericwaugh3971
    @ericwaugh3971 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video would love to see more on self publishing from you

  • @AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz
    @AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    "self publishing is for authors that can't get traditionally published"
    how is that still a thing considering the poop that still gets traditionally published?

    • @iama.k1080
      @iama.k1080 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because they want money and not just good stories

  • @edsimnett
    @edsimnett หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great, thought-provoking stuff. I always like to remind people that Ian Fleming was by any reasonable measure hybrid/self published (no advance, paid for some of the marketing of his first book etc)
    I would have drawn an additional conclusion from that graph at the end (15:05). We know that at least some of that 20% of "no connections" will actually have connections (cases I know about which are likely moderately common- academics/non fiction writers with fiction books using pen names, people with relatives/in laws in the publishing/agenting industry [you would *really* have to dig to find those], people with published spouses or close friends, who can use that to connect easily), so in fact the "over the transom into the slush pile" to "deal" is probably true for (much?) less than 1 in 6 deals. Which is another [perhaps negative] strong argument for self publishing- the odds are *really* poor to get a deal if you are not connected [the other conclusion is, of course, do an MFA...].

  • @unhommequicourt
    @unhommequicourt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks for the videos. Could you give your experience about how you balance your writing work and your social life and the rest?

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well, I tend to write in the early mornings, and then work from 8 - 12 on Bookfox. Afternoons are for reading/family.

  • @squeakyscauldron
    @squeakyscauldron 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would also add that the expansion opportunities (movies/TV series) is growing rapidly for self pubbed books. Just saw a movie based on a Wattpadd series even. Like, what!?

  • @NancySherer-t9v
    @NancySherer-t9v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great info. I thought publishers would help promote my book. What about getting libraries to pick up my book?

    • @3dchick
      @3dchick 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You can do that yourself although it's somewhat complicated. The benefit of doing that work, though, is you control the library distribution, and can offer libraries a lot more flexibility. Trad publishers tend to be very stingy with libraries, sigh.

  • @PanicPixie
    @PanicPixie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “Your platform is your books.” 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @HH-wq6se
      @HH-wq6se หลายเดือนก่อน

      As someone who absolutely dreads engaging in social media fakery, that line rang my head like a gong. (In a good way.)

  • @yvesgomes
    @yvesgomes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The thing about trad pub not covering much marketing surprised me.

  • @Paul_Wetor
    @Paul_Wetor หลายเดือนก่อน

    Regarding Quality: my short novel has been in the works, on and off, for fifteen years now. I started out thinking, "It's in my head, all I have to do it get it down on paper." Oh, clueless me. My first draft was crappy and cliched. And I could tell because "real" books have a flow to them. Nobody talks about that, but I could tell that sometimes my text didn't flow properly. If the reader gets stuck and has to re-read a sentence, something is wrong. It breaks the flow. "Wait, which character is being referred to?" "A comma here would make this sentence clearer." That's what separates amateur writing from professional, in my opinion.

  • @NotTheHolyRomanEmpire
    @NotTheHolyRomanEmpire หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am close to finishing the second installment of an epic fantasy series and was wondering if I should break up the first book into two parts to be able to sell two books.......or keep the integrity of the structure. For a tiny bit of context, Volume 1 has a wordcount of approximately 260,000.

  • @OccasionallyAPrincess
    @OccasionallyAPrincess 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This video was very eyeopening, thanks! I’m not too good at marketing, I don’t use or like social media, I’m not really a person to put myself out there, and I’m one of those people that was kind of banking on traditional publishing to do the marketing if I ever got to that stage. You say a copy editor is important, would you say hiring someone in marketing (idk any job roles lol) to help market your book would be important too? I know a lot of marketing is luck, nobody can control what goes viral, but do you think it would be more effective than doing it alone?

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's really expensive to hire a publicist, even more expensive than an editor, but of course a good one can help your book!

  • @yuuser
    @yuuser หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very helpful! Thank you. ❤

  • @orcanerdc6204
    @orcanerdc6204 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you explain why so many books do get published with errors? I recently DNFd one for have a ton of misused words, missing sentences, incorrect information, etc in just the first 20 pages. It was horrible.

  • @fox7378
    @fox7378 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Okay 😭 but my biggest concern is being unable to format my own book. I tried it once (from microsoft word to a .epub format) and that was so hard. I always make so many errors that it scares me I won't get things right. Anyone else?

  • @3dchick
    @3dchick 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video, but I will quibble on one point. Long self-pub books do really well in Kindle Unlimited, if they're well done, and tend to do better as audio books than shorter ones.

  • @catherinerobson5482
    @catherinerobson5482 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you cover typesetting or is it formatting in a video, a task I would do about anything to avoid.

  • @luckybarbieri8533
    @luckybarbieri8533 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Bookfox, what's a good word count for an episodic series of short books?

  • @judithstrachan9399
    @judithstrachan9399 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have an email friend-I-haven’t-met(-yet!) who is a successful writer in the niche in which I write (never published - so far). Would it be unforgivable to ask her to read my work? I would ask her first, of course. At what stage should I ask her advice, or for her to read it? I’d expect 2nd-book-almost-ready-to-publish would be the best time for 1st book, just before publishing.
    I do NOT want to stretch the friendship.

  • @robertrdbrooks7658
    @robertrdbrooks7658 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank You. 👍💥

  • @hardrada8637
    @hardrada8637 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you dedicate a segment to writers who wish to publish under a non-deplume? There are some of us who have a burning desire to write, publish our works and make a living from doing so, but for a myriad of reasons wish to remain anonymous.

  • @Indhel9957
    @Indhel9957 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Not me realizing eragon was self published from this video lol

  • @sirguy6678
    @sirguy6678 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video!

  • @christopherrouse8602
    @christopherrouse8602 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd enjoy seeing a video on, say, 10 self-published success stories across different genres (apologies if you've already done this). Would especially be interested in any non-series/stand-alone works that have done well. Finally, are there any literary novels that have successfully broken through through self-publishing?

  • @vikiai4241
    @vikiai4241 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh dear, TH-cam's ad-insertion overload was inserting adverts so they came on almost immmediataly after you said "And the _nth_ lie is" [advert[. 😀

  • @sarahsander785
    @sarahsander785 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have self-published several books in pretty niche genre-combinations (also two of them are pretty bad 😅) before. When I finalized my latest book and hired someone for the marketing to go self-publishing after no agent wanted that book (even though Victorian crime isn't that niche), I found a publisher and given my record as a self-publisher directly got contracted for a series of three books. So yeah, self-publishing cutting your chances is a lie 😊

  • @meursault7030
    @meursault7030 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The more I learn, the more I think my book isn't gonna make any money when it's published lmao

  • @Gaywatch
    @Gaywatch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Trad pub doesn't put huge amounts of marketing cash behind a lot of books, but they still do more than your average self pub can afford and have distribution in roads still hard/impossible for self pub to break into.

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very true.

  • @ScienceWiseMe
    @ScienceWiseMe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So we do traditional publishing on our first book to secure audience then we self publish. Right?

  • @AuthorMostafa
    @AuthorMostafa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have an idea. I’m worried my book might not be accepted by a traditional publisher and I’m only 13 so don’t have the money to self publish (my parents might give me some, but not enough to make it big). So my idea is to put the first chapter of my book up on the internet and make people pay for a link to the book. I’ll edit myself, hire a cheap cover designer, and me and my entire family (some of which have very good social media followings) are willing to market all over social media and through word of mouth. If the book gets decent sales I might print a few copies and pitch the idea to local book stores. Everyone who’s read my book has said it’s amazing and believe it’s on the league with best sellers. What do you think? Is any of this a good idea? Any advice? I love writing and believe I’m good enough at it to make a career. If I start early, I can make a name for myself so that when I grow up I’ll already have an audience and reputation.

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love your ambition. Wish I had it at your age. I say go for it!

    • @yvehooson9262
      @yvehooson9262 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm really impressed with your confidence at such a young age but also struck by your intention to "hire a cheap cover designer"... as a former designer for 30 years or so, whose whole career would not have persisted if I had not correctly priced my services... it's worrying that you value your own talents but not those of other people. If you want your book to sell and think a cover adds nothing to that then hire the "cheap" designer, although I'd wonder why you think you'd need a cover at all if that is true. Why not just a blank cover? That might be more intriguing. If you think the cover is an important element in selling your book (it is!) then find a designer that knows their own worth and can help you to catch an audience, it very literally is a small price to pay. Because if you can't bring eyes to your pages, no one is going to know you are a good writer in the first place. Good luck whatever.

  • @3dchick
    @3dchick 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The quality of editing as a division is shrinking as trad pub has begun to cut back on that. More new authors are being expected to provide a lot of that themselves, with only copy editing being provided. I'm seeing it in the books I'm reading, too.

  • @malosprime4910
    @malosprime4910 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm writing a superhero episodic book series with serial elements. Can it still be self-published?

    • @judithstrachan9399
      @judithstrachan9399 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      IMO, *anything* can be self-published. The hardest part will be finding your market, it’s pretty niche.
      Success may well depend on how many people you know who already want to read it. And how many they know.
      (BTW, my market is even more niche than yours: Christian Regency romance. It’s still huge.)

    • @malosprime4910
      @malosprime4910 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@judithstrachan9399 Cool. But can my series be both episodic with serial elements, a hybrid of the two?

    • @judithstrachan9399
      @judithstrachan9399 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@malosprime4910 , Absolutely. If you like it when it’s finished, there’s a good chance someone else will like it.

    • @judithstrachan9399
      @judithstrachan9399 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@malosprime4910 hopefully, lots of someone elses.

  • @arnehemingway6063
    @arnehemingway6063 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    6:15 "You're goal really, is to get better at both" (writing and marketing)
    I hear what you're saying, but I don't WANT to be better at marketing. I could care less about it. Instead, I'll continue to focus on my writing and the quality of my prose and if none of you read it, that's your loss. *sniff*

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think a lot of writers feel that way. In that case, it's best to try to hire people who can do that marketing work for you.

  • @wunderlichdrive
    @wunderlichdrive 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have any thoughts about when to start doing translations? Sure, ChatGPT can do pretty amazing translations, but those translations would still need a native editor to review it. But, do you think that getting a book into other languages (Spanish, German, French, Portuguese, Chinese) could increase not only reach, but increase overall awareness?

    • @tticusFinch
      @tticusFinch หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm a part of a large online writers' group and similar questions to yours have been asked. Frankly English language books have the largest audience and you see a lot more non-English speaking writers trying to translate into English rather than the other way around. There's also some legal aspects that come with having multiple editions (translated copies are different editions) and multiple translators that act as barriers for having your book translated. That said, it is done and it's up to you to gage what will work best for you.

  • @jpxenovore
    @jpxenovore หลายเดือนก่อน

    I get really annoyed when I start reading a series only to find out there's like a dozen plus short books in it. It can feel like being strung along artificially.

  • @VinnyTheory
    @VinnyTheory 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    From what I’ve learned, a lot of these lies (especially #1) flips to a truth if you have the potential to be a publishing house’s lead title

  • @pickwickkennedy9550
    @pickwickkennedy9550 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you do BOTH at the same time ????

  • @orokushi5953
    @orokushi5953 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Christopher Paolini can hardly be considered self published. His parents were running a small publishing company, had years of experience with publishing and actively helped him with the book. That is not to say that his books are bad or anything. But few of us have two supportive parents with relevant field experience who also happen to own a publishing company.

  • @billyalarie929
    @billyalarie929 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just solved the question for me within 0:40 so thx for that ig

  • @Joshuazx
    @Joshuazx หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:55 "write 1-2 books a year."
    lol. I have wrote 350k words this year.

  • @BlairLSK
    @BlairLSK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So if you are a contemporary (at a stretch, literary) fiction writer who could probably turn out a self-contained book every 12 months at best, what are the self-publishing strategies? So many of the tips you suggest just don't apply, but from what you say, there doesn't seem to be any allure to traditional publishing either.

  • @the_haylien
    @the_haylien 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does this hold true for graphic novels as well?

    • @austinccolton
      @austinccolton 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Printing is harder for graphic novels and the print on demand options available for books don’t work as well.
      There are people who have been successful on platforms like Kickstarter, but that is a whole other beast.
      I’m sure there are amazing options and depending on what you have in mind, web comics and digital options are totally great ways to get your story out there.

  • @JorgeSerranoCobos
    @JorgeSerranoCobos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is there an official source of data around this? Because when they say "it's a bestseller" you just have to believe the publishers. No open data here, right?

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's a bestseller can mean any number of things. Perhaps it's been listed on the NYT list, which means it's sold roughly 5,000 copies in a week, or perhaps they mean it's just a bestseller in a niche category in Amazon, like Steampunk Fantasy or Cozy Romance.

  • @Joshuazx
    @Joshuazx หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for making this video.

  • @Ennpey
    @Ennpey หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super interesting!

  • @marcossantaengracia2862
    @marcossantaengracia2862 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I honestly have no problem with selfpublishing, the issue is that this past month i have seen a lot of people talk about their selfpublished books and it looks like they have done it "wrong". By this i mean, they seem to not have put in the effort in having their work exposed to the world, seems like they did not have an editor, like they did not pay for a book cover and all the important steps that your book should take before being published in any shape or form. At least that is what i have seen; people that only put their writings in amazon kindle and nothing else, without any kind of work other than the writing itself, which is a huge work of course but without the correct amount of polishing it just looks raw.
    This, the fact that you have to pay costs on your own and not having a target audience yet as a novice, is making me inclined to traditionally publish at least my debut book and maybe a couple of the following before taking the leap.

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's easy to self publish badly.
      It's hard to self publish well.

  • @Yeshanu
    @Yeshanu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My 64 year old heart hurts hearing you call 2010 "old echool " 😂😢😂😢
    Thet being said, self-publishing has changed so very much in the last ten years and it's definitely more profitable now than it was. My concern is that the proliferation of AI authored books is going to destroy the viability of the form before it really becomes mainstream.

  • @riesminnegal8343
    @riesminnegal8343 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    love you man

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Love you too, bro.

  • @penrilfake
    @penrilfake 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know this isn't necessarily your niche, but do you have any experience w trad vs self publishing when it comes to graphic novels?

  • @emukiller1985
    @emukiller1985 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this video by the audio isn't synced. Is that just me?

    • @emukiller1985
      @emukiller1985 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nevermind it just fixed...itself?

  • @danielgregg2530
    @danielgregg2530 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am getting the idea that maybe there is more than one kind of writer and this is only talking to somebody who wants to write whether or not they have anything worth reading to say. Is there more to understand about the business of writing than the business of writing?

  • @no-secret-chart
    @no-secret-chart 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good to know!

  • @oldguyinstanton
    @oldguyinstanton 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lots of food for thought here. It's rather depressing, frankly.
    First, I'm 75 and not sure I have the energy to do the marketing for my book.
    Besides that, over the last... decade (??, yep, damn, decade) the book has morphed into a monster. Its currently 80% done and already at 660 pages.
    It started as a simple science fiction tale of human abduction by an alien as metaphor for mass bird abductions by pet suppliers. It has evolved into a cautionary tale against hubris in many of its guises.
    New characters insisted on butting into the story (because they filled a plot hole and for background justification for many of the good/bad decisions the protagonist (who is also the villain, depending on reader POV) makes.
    And the damned characters INSIST on doing things I never thought of them doing, and making life complicated for other characters, which then has to be resolved. It's become a soap opera.
    It's been through multiple revisions. It started as a typical boring newbie gee-whiz/exposition/narrative dump. After it justly got reamed by a writer's group, I completely revised it with lots of dialog and more character development, and ended up exploring the sheltered/broken childhood of the alien protagonist/villain and his long-suffering AI implant. Yeah, a soap opera.
    And this is supposed to be geared to a YA reader. But my gut feel is that it would be a "cult" favorite, if anything. I ask you: what student, these days, is gonna lug around a 700 page book?
    I'm at the point where I think the only option is to publish the novel on a website for people to read for free. Is there one where I can hyperlink the ToC* to the text Chapter titles?
    * I'm old fashioned. The book also has a DM. Just because I like them.
    The one theoretically bright side I see is that I think this 'Verse is made for both continuum and episodic books (and stories). I've already got the sequel thought out. And there is room for a ton of related novels (and stories). I have one short story set in this 'Verse** published in an anthology and I just learned that a second one has been accepted in the same anthology series. But I think all that is gonna be too much in the time I have left on this Earth.
    ** It's actually a slightly modified chapter from this book I'm ranting about.
    Sorry about the length of this. I value your video advice, and I'd appreciate your thoughts on the above rant.

  • @holyoakhall5249
    @holyoakhall5249 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    PLEASE turn down the background music. The information you consistently share is fantastic. The background music in this one made it very difficult to stay focused on what you were saying.

  • @NorisSpecter
    @NorisSpecter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I plan to publish my first book for free for the first month to hook as many readers as possible. What are the cons of this approach?
    I write in a series, and I'm almost done with the first draft of the second volume, so I thought getting more people to read my first book would be an investment.

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I would release the second book before you offer the first one for free.

  • @AbraWhiteBoy
    @AbraWhiteBoy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do self-publishing authors want an agent right away? Or only if they see some success?

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Usually agents only want self publishing authors if they sell a ton of copies.

    • @AbraWhiteBoy
      @AbraWhiteBoy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Bookfox thats what I thought, thank you

  • @andrewteichroeb8886
    @andrewteichroeb8886 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Being a self-published author is no different than being an independent musician.

  • @anikagray4714
    @anikagray4714 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So just to clarify, you genuinely think literary fiction belongs in traditional publishing? My novel is literary fiction and I want to do what's best for it.

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think it's much, much harder to market literary fiction in the self-published realm, compared to any genre like sci-fi, fantasy, crime, etc. It's not impossible, though. There are some people who do it.

  • @adriang6259
    @adriang6259 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Okay, so I'm interested in your Academy. Not sure if I have the money. I think. Not sure what I still have to learn I know, I don't know enough.
    However I have a self published online book. It's a $1.50 AU. It's called "Last Fight" By AJ McKenzie. (I didn't know there was a real writer of a similar name,) If anyone's keen to give me feedback. Just remember I'm a untrained hack before you really start to kick.
    It's an action based alien invasion battle set around WW2.

  • @bartcharlow9807
    @bartcharlow9807 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm surprised. You rave about self-publishing, but right in the beginning you state that it's not for literary fiction. Unclear on that latter....

    • @psychedianic
      @psychedianic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Suspect he means literary as in literature. J. K. Rowling's books are entertainment. Virginia Woolf's are literature.

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What are you unclear about?

    • @bartcharlow9807
      @bartcharlow9807 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@psychedianic OK, I can see a difference there from commercial fiction, if that's what he means.

    • @bartcharlow9807
      @bartcharlow9807 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Bookfox Did the guy above get it right? Do you mean the "literary fiction" category as distinguished from more commercial fiction, or something else entirely?

    • @Bookfox
      @Bookfox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, that's correct. Literary is a genre like Crime and Romance and Sci-fi and Fantasy are genres. Self-publishing is rarely the right path forward for the genre of literary fiction.

  • @trevorcarterva
    @trevorcarterva 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most traditionally published novels don't make any money anyway.

    • @yvehooson9262
      @yvehooson9262 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, but don't traditional authors still get advances from the publisher to live on while they write? Is that a thing of the past?

  • @Novastar.SaberCombat
    @Novastar.SaberCombat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My work is better than 90% of all books out there. Unfortunately, marketing is pretty much the only thing that matters... and that requires coin, crews, connections, clout, control, etc. (which I lack). 💪😎✌️ If you ain't wealthy, then you ain't healthy. No exceptions.
    🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨
    "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind’s journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul’s fate revealed. In time, all points converge, hope’s strength resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe’s endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again."
    🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨
    --Diamond Dragons (series)

  • @SM-yd8hq
    @SM-yd8hq หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why are indy movies and why is indy music cool, but not indy writing?

  • @tamathacampbell4985
    @tamathacampbell4985 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Also, I've seen a surprising number of traditionally published books that would have seriously benefitted from a copy editor.
    Certain traditional publishing houses who shall remain nameless still have trouble making a readable e-book. I bought -and returned- one e-book recently in which less than a third of the content was visible. The readable sections looked like they were badly scanned from a hardcopy. The unreadable sections were either blank or partially covered in opaque rectangles.
    The hardback copy is both complete and lovely, though.
    The noobiest of noob first-time self-published novellas I've purchased on Amazon/Kindle did better than that.

  • @stephenlogsdon8266
    @stephenlogsdon8266 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    8. Start a TH-cam channel, garner lots of subscribers, ;-) but seriously, I enjoy your videos.