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Once Upon a Time Wonderland was originally written as a short season to fill in between the fall and spring runs on the original because it did poorly in reruns, but the network liked the show and made them extend it to a full season at the last minute so they rushed to add more scripts and drag out the story. It would have been good if they had left it as originally intended.
Here I have to defend one - Once Upon A Time In Wonderland. It was cut short, it was weird, the graphics were so odd, and it was strange; but I loved it. I actually stopped watching the regular Once Upon A Time by that point and when that came out I watched it with heavy skepticism at first, then gave first ep a rewatch and was hooked. Giving it a thorough watch again now, I am sure it still is interesting enough - to me anyway.
I feel the same. Still bugs me that they brought Will over to the main show but never anyone else and they never once really acknowledge the spin-off's events beyond vaguely teasing Will somehow losing Anastasia again tying into how he ended up back in Storybrooke....
I loved ouatiw soooo much. It Had the same magic that ouat Had in season 1 and then sadly lost over the seasons. I will forever be bitter about how the main show then treated Will's character and his actor Michael Socha. And how they later acted as if ouatiw had never existed. Ouatiw ist forever in my heart and I rewatch it regularly
Here's an obscure one... Top of the Heap, a spin-off of Married with Children. But you already have one show on this list starring Matt LeBlanc. Can see why you wouldn't add this one too.
Joey worked better as part of an ensemble, but not as the primary focus. He didn't start off dumb, just mildly ditzy, but reasonably intelligent, until he turned into a caricature of himself. Also, he barely even mentioned his five friends in the spinoff, aside from briefly in the Pilot.
This list is missing these failed spinoffs : 1. FISH from Barney Miller. 2. TABITHA from Bewitched. 3. GLORIA from All In The Family. 4. ENOS from The Dukes Of Hazzard. 5. THE ROPERS from Three's Company. 6. GOLDEN PALACE from The Golden Girls. 7. THE LONE GUNMEN from The X Files. 8. TIME OF YOUR LIFE from Party Of Five. 9. YOUNG AMERICANS from Dawson's Creek.
As much as I loved The Golden Girls is as much as I loathed Golden Palace. I try to forget it ever existed. The Ropers wasn’t as bad as Three’s A Crowd though.
You forgot the Threes Company spin-off where Jack winds up with the flight attendant living above the restaurant. That was only one season. Jack should have wound up with Janet but they screwed it up.
Mad TV poked fun at it once.😂 It was a Spanish version an john Ridder was posed at this sex crazed guy who wanted to do them an Did anything to get it even Stalk them.😂
Technically, that isn’t a spinoff because none of the cast members or characters from That ‘70s Show were on it. It was just another show from the same producers with a similar theme.
Wow! Kate "Captain Janeway" Mulgrew as Mrs. Colombo! In the '80's, my grandmother and I got hooked on Dynasty, and seems like they tried some spinoff called The Colbys, which featured the "Fallon" character, got increasingly goofy, something about a UFO, got cancelled as quick as some of these programs.
I don’t think Mrs Columbo was ever shown in the Columbo ssries. It was debatable if Columbo was even married since it seems he told different stories about his wife depending on the suspect he was questioning.
@@andrewward5891 Mrs. Columbo was never shown in the original Columbo series. Also, the show Mrs. Columbo briefly changed its name to Mrs. Callahan! (maybe she married Dirty Harry?)
The Colbys lasted two seasons. It was never as popular as the parent show and diluted the brand. Pretty much a carbon copy. After the show was cancelled, several characters migrated back to the parents series (Fallon, Jeff, Sable, Monica)
@@SpamEggSausage Mrs. Columbo divorced itself from the Columbo series (literally) during its run. The show's title changed several times from Mrs. Columbo to Kate Columbo to Kate the Detective to Kate Loves a Mystery all in the course of 1 1/2 seasons. The character's last name was changed to Callahan to separate itself from Columbo and it was said Kate was now a divorced single mother
Does anyone at all remember Vinny and Bobby? It was a Married With Children spin off with Matt LeBlanc. This is my ultimate what we’re you thinking spin-off lol
@@Trekmaster47it was a play on words. The title was a portmanteau of the word aftermath (results following a catastrophic event like war) and the original series title MASH
True but Models had no direct connection to BH90210. Grant Show who played Jake on Melrose Place was the only character to feature on all three shows (90210, Melrose and Models) In Models, Linda Gray played the mother of Heather Locklear's character. Years later, on the reboot 90210, Linda Gray played a completely different character
Some honorable mentions. Archie Place and Gloria both bombs of All in the family. The Ropers spinoff of threes company. The Lone gun men spin off off The X files.
One of TV's longest running and most successful series, "Gunsmoke" had a spin off in 1974 called "Dirty Sally," which lasted for 14 episodes before cancellation - despite actress Jeanette Nolan recieving an Emmy nomination as Sally,.
OMG, no, it doesn’t deserve to be on a worst list. The worst part about that show was they told Mr Roper (Norman Fell) that he could go back to three’s company if his show failed but that was a blatant lie.
@@anamariagil2898 No, Norman was told they could go back if Ropers didn't survive a full season. It got cancelled in Season 2. And thank god, cause we got to keep Mr.Furly who was miles better than the Ropehearders!
After Mash, Sanford Arms and Brady Brides weren't "spin offs"; they were sequel series. A sequel is a continuation of a previous story, and that's exactly what those three shows were. Same with Golden Palace, Archie's Place and Are You Being Served Again.
I wonder if that footage of After MASH was taken from my father's collection? He had the whole series on VHS of which he tapped back in the day. Then he transferred it over to DVD back in the 00's and to his knowledge were the only digital copies that existed due to low demand. He eventually sold the whole thing on ebay for some emergency cash during the 2008 financial crisis.
Baywatch Nights wasn't that bad, I actually became interested when it took on the supernatural elements. By the way, I loved the theme song the 2nd season. FYI: The name of the song for the 2nd Season of Baywatch Nights is called "Nights Will Never Be The Same" by Alfonzo Blackwell.
Someone made a joke that Hasselhoff should have gotten Pamela Anderson a part on BN. That would have saved it. 😂 Seriously, the show suffered an identity crises. After failing as a Cali-Magnum PI show, it then attempted to go the X Files route. The problem was that it again could not decide how it wanted to proceed. At times it wanted to be sarcastically "tongue in cheek" like an old show my parents watched called "The Nightstalker". It then would switch atmosphere to try to go for the dark, foreboding, X Files, Millennium aesthetic. In addition, Hasselhoff is not the most believable actor to carry a dramatic show.
@@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc I agree... I think the SCUM-BAG Producers of 'Threes Company' used the crappy 'Ropers' show to save money by luring Norman Fell & Audrey Lindsey away so they could get Don Knotts. They could pay Mr. Knotts more then the others made each and still save money. Then didn't support the new show. Again... SCUM- BAGS!!
Baywatch Nights was so off the wall, they should have created a brand new character as the lead instead of recycling Mitch as a moonlighting P.I. A P.I. who later in Season 2 investigates the paranormal. And of course give the show a completely different name instead of referring to Baywatch. Why can't David Hasselhoff play 2 different characters on 2 different (unrelated) shows at the same time?
There's probably a story to that. David Hasselhoff was looking to move on from Baywatch by then. He wanted to do a Peter Gunn remake. But couldn't get the right. So he pitched a show called 'Santa Monica NIghts' with him and Gregalan Alan Williams as private eyes with a lethal weapon style dynamic. But what emerged from that was Baywatch nights. I think he lost some creative battles to the other producers. Knowing this, he looks so fed up in the second season of nights it's amazing.
@@paultapner2769 The second season was just for marketing purposes. They didn't want to make it look like the _Baywatch_ title was a failure so they shat out a second season, anyway. He looks fed up because they were essentially beating a dead horse at that point.
"Joey" exemplifies what I always said about "Friends". The cast works well.of one another, but individually they do not have the comedic strength to carry a show on their own.
I love Blacklist, but the spinoff was missing Reddington monologues. That is a hard character to replace. And Joey was just the wrong character to pick for a spinoff.. should have been Monica/Chandler or Ross/Rachel
Joey only works with Rachel , Ross , Chandler , Monica and Phoebe , Friends only is good 'cause of the characters and their stories , none of them will be good alone
@@trinaqThey didn't have cameos with any of the Friends of others. David Schwimmer directed some of the "Joey" episodes, so would it have hurt to have him pop up in front of the camera as Ross in one episode.
If youre interested in how Baywatch got a detective and then supernatural spinoff, Alison Pregler has a comedic recap series called Baywatching that covers the episode and the issues behind the scenes that led to it.
Even the writers of _Galactica 1980_ hated the show. They would chant "Come on, 13" because 13 was the ratings the show needed to dip down to to get cancelled.
“Highlander: Raven” was a good series. They made a very good distinction: that in order for the immortality to kick in, you’re initial death had to be violent. She was a good character. The show deserved a longer run.
They went into that a little on the original Highlander Show.. I remember the main episode that went into it was a girl dying in a car accident. They said something about the violent death.. Then I think the Highlander Endgame movie did as well. I love anything Highlander. Raven was great. And I cannot wait for the new movie.
They both premiered around the same time (spring 1987) and featured similar themes - crash working class family. While the Tortellis was cancelled, MWC was one of the new FOX network's early hits
3:00 NOBODY wanted Walking Dead 90210. Nobody. Not even self centered self indulgent zoomers. People who liked the original were drawn to interpersonal relationships of many different age groups and backgrounds, not kids and their kid problems. That reeks of something a mid level executive thought up while reading teeny bopper blogs and not actual market research with stats and sound logic.
The rest of those you can have or I've never heard of. But leave Booker is pretty awesome. Not as good as Jump Street, but it had a charm. The Lucille episode about BB King's famous guitar is worth the existence of the series by itself.
@@crescentfreshbret a few years later when the WB first premiered in 1995, one of their first shows was Marker starring Richard Grieco. It only lasted 1 season
How did Hello Larry not make the list? It was a spin off of high tated Different Strokes (which successfully spun off Facts of Life). But Larry crashed and burned in less then 2 seasons.
“Hello Larry” is NOT a spin-off. NBC scheduled it on the same evening as “Diff’rent Strokes.” With its bad ratings, the network decided to do crossovers in an attempt to increase the viewership. They failed.
@@ZiggyWalsh - I stand corrected. I remember watching the different strokes episodes as a kid that had the Hello Larry cast guest starring (they made Larry and Mr Drummond army pals) and I assumed Hello Larry was a spin-off (like everyone else I never watched Hello Larry). Hello Larry’s ratings were so bad they used to make fun of the show on “Real People”, another NBC show.
Technically he appeared in three. In 1980, NBC revived Sanford and Son as Sanford bringing back Redd Foxx only minus Lamont. Whitman guest starred in 2 episodes of the failed revival which lasted 1 1/2 seasons
IMO Kinight Rider 2000 is by far the worst and most unnecessary spin-off of all time. I'm not the least surprised that the TV Series this pilot was supposed to be a pilot for was never realized. 🤮
There were 2 positives with "Joey". One, we found out that Drea diMatteo is a pretty good comedic actress. And two, it allowed Matt LeBlanc to find the woman who would become his wife, in his neighbour.
Wouldn’t have had Once Upon A Time In Wonderland on this list I actually enjoyed that. I would of included Team Knight Rider, The Munsters Today, Angels’ 88, Fame L.A. and most U.S. remakes of U.K. shows.
Galactica 1980 should have been so much better and still on the same budget. Wonderland wasn't too bad. Nor was Baywatch Nights actually. Amanda was amazing in Highlander, so Raven was disappointing. And I actually liked Models Inc, lol! I vote Joanie Loves Chachi as the worst spinoff here. Off this list, I'd say The Ropers, that was terr-Ribble!
Booker was ACTUALLY GOOD and BETTER than Jump Street. It was like a 90s version of The Rockford Files. It also featured early roles for Don Cheadle and Maura Tierney. Also, Glen Morgan and James Wong moved onto The X-Files.
The movie "The last kiss goodnight" has a brilliant joke. One of the bad guys says to the other bad "I saw something disturbing last night". The other guy responds irritated with "Yes, it's called Baywatch Nights".
I love CSI, but CSI: Cyber was just not good. Between how they changed Ted Danson's character to characters that had no development to CBS putting it on Sundays where episodes would be delayed by football if they weren't postponed, it was a mess. You'd be hard pressed to find a CSI fan who says that's their favorite spinoff.
Technically Mr. T and Tina was a spin-off of Welcome Back, Kotter. The character had been featured in ONE episode the previous season. However, Pat Morita was more popularly known for his recurring role on Happy Days as Arnold which he was also featured in the season before Mr. T and Tina. When Mr. T and Tina was cancelled mid-season, Morita reprised the Arnold character later that same season. But not on Happy Days but on a spin-off called Blansky's Beauties. However, while Happy Days took place in the 1950's, the spin-off took place in the then current day late 1970s and Arnold had not aged a day since his time on Happy Days (LOL)
Hey, if you can watch Baywatch, you can watch Baywatch Nights. I loved it :P lol I liked After Mash better than the original in a way. At least as an idea. They really needed to expand on it. Excellent idea.
It's a great show for its target audience. But due to that, it was never going to be as good as BMW. It should be appreciated for what it was as opposed to what people wanted it to be.
Granted, "Once Upon A Time in Wonderland" isn't es good as "Once Upon A Time", but it was very promising. I liked it and would've loved more seasons. "Joey" also wasn't THAT bad. The main problem was that it had to compete with "Friends" success. If you ignore this competition, then "Joey" isn't even remotely as bad. I haven't seen the other spin-offs (in most cases I haven't even seen the parent shows).
TWD World Beyond was Ok but it was just stupid that they had no idea what the hell was going on outside their compound, just like how the Alexandrians and Commonwealth people were mostly clueless to the danger even after so many years. After a few years, how the hell could you survive without knowing basic self-defense or about the dangers of the dead, made no sense. Many spin-offs shouldn't happen because it takes the magic away from the original, especially when they try changing the lore.
Criminal Minds: Beyond Borders was a good show. Yes, there were lots of clichés and ridiculous mistakes but that did not bother me that much when I watched the episode taking place in France. Never was a fan of the CSI franchise but CSI: Cyber was a nice surprise, Booker was not that bad and Once Upon A Time in Wonderland's plot line was way better than the plots of the original show's latest seasons.
@@radrobd123 Yep pretty much. Just like FBI: Most Wanted is the same premise than Criminal Minds. Never understood why they cancelled the Criminal Minds franchise to replace it with something similar.
In "The Tortellis" I really liked Nick's son Anthony and his wife Annie ever since seeing their dynamic on "Cheers"; those two should have had their own spinoff
How funny is it that back then the concept of more than one family buying a home together was crazy enough that it was a crazy concept for a TV spin off.
I disagree with 3 on this list. Once Upon a Time in Wonderland, CSI Cyber and Criminal Minds Beyond Borders. They were all REALLY good shows and I thought it was unfair they were all cancelled. I'm just happy that at least they all got a happy ending.
I was looking ahead into comments hoping to see this! I can’t believe they didn’t mention it. So terrible. Except for our introduction to Glenn Howerton.
I've said this several times now. That 80's Show wasn't a spin-off. It was titled that way to capitalize on the success of That '70s Show, but the series share no characters or anything else in common.
New characters on an existing show isn't a spinoff. The Practice, that show had a spinoff through Boston Legal, with the Alan Shore first introduced in The Practice's final season.
But he did manage to eventually have success in Episodes. Unfortunately Matthew Perry just hasn’t been able to hitch his wagon to a successful show since Friends. I’m still disappointed that Go On only lasted one season. It was a great show with a great cast. That was the show that introduced me to the wonderful Brett Gelman.
The Blacklist: Redemption should have been great because Tom Keen was such a great character (and underutilized in the original series). But, yeah, it was basically Blacklist with Tom replacing Liz and Susan replacing Red. Such a waste of possibility and cast.
1. The Tortellis (Cheers spin-off) 2. Mr T & Tina (spin-off of Mr Kotter) 3. The Brady Brides 4. Baywatch Nights 5. Joanie Loves Chachi 6. Criminal Minds: Beyond Borders 7. Models Inc. (Melrose Place spin-off) 8. Sanford Arms 9. Highlander: The Raven 10. Joey (Friends spin-off) 11. Booker (21 Jump Street spin-off) 12. The Blacklist: Redemption 13. Once upon a time in Wonderland (spin-off of Once upon a time) 14. Living Dolls (Who’s the Boss spin-off) 15. Mrs. Columbo 16. Galactica 1980 17. Checking In (Jeffersons spin-off) 18. Waking Dead: The World Beyond 19. After Mash 20. CSI: Cyber
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Enos. Spinoff of the Dukes of Hazzard
That 80s Show....we don't talk about that
I liked The Cleveland Show. I couldn't understand some jokes but I still liked it
Enos a spin-off of The Dukes of Hazzard
Once Upon a Time Wonderland was originally written as a short season to fill in between the fall and spring runs on the original because it did poorly in reruns, but the network liked the show and made them extend it to a full season at the last minute so they rushed to add more scripts and drag out the story. It would have been good if they had left it as originally intended.
What about 20 most successful TV spinoffs
Melrose place, spin off of bh90210 n angel, spinoff of buffy the vampire slayer
The Jeffersons from All in the Family. Ran two seasons longer than All in the Family did.
The Simpsons, which was a spin-off of The Tracy Ullman show.
Law and Order SVU
Mork & Mindy and Laverne & Shirley from Happy Days. Maude, also from All in the Family, and Good Times from Maude.
Here I have to defend one - Once Upon A Time In Wonderland. It was cut short, it was weird, the graphics were so odd, and it was strange; but I loved it. I actually stopped watching the regular Once Upon A Time by that point and when that came out I watched it with heavy skepticism at first, then gave first ep a rewatch and was hooked. Giving it a thorough watch again now, I am sure it still is interesting enough - to me anyway.
I feel the same. Still bugs me that they brought Will over to the main show but never anyone else and they never once really acknowledge the spin-off's events beyond vaguely teasing Will somehow losing Anastasia again tying into how he ended up back in Storybrooke....
Me, too. I enjoyed watching it.
I loved ouatiw soooo much. It Had the same magic that ouat Had in season 1 and then sadly lost over the seasons. I will forever be bitter about how the main show then treated Will's character and his actor Michael Socha. And how they later acted as if ouatiw had never existed. Ouatiw ist forever in my heart and I rewatch it regularly
Here's an obscure one... Top of the Heap, a spin-off of Married with Children. But you already have one show on this list starring Matt LeBlanc. Can see why you wouldn't add this one too.
This one came to my mind, but I wasn't sure if it ever became an actual TV show.
@@Coyotek4 Wikipedia says it was cancelled after 6 episodes.
Didn't Married with Children have 2 failed spin-offs
I remember that one of those episodes appeared on an episode of Married With Children
@@Pinkranger87It pretty much had Leblanc's MWC character paired with a similar individual.
Joey worked better as part of an ensemble, but not as the primary focus. He didn't start off dumb, just mildly ditzy, but reasonably intelligent, until he turned into a caricature of himself. Also, he barely even mentioned his five friends in the spinoff, aside from briefly in the Pilot.
But it has Adrianna in it!
This list is missing these failed spinoffs :
1. FISH from Barney Miller.
2. TABITHA from Bewitched.
3. GLORIA from All In The Family.
4. ENOS from The Dukes Of Hazzard.
5. THE ROPERS from Three's Company.
6. GOLDEN PALACE from The Golden Girls.
7. THE LONE GUNMEN from The X Files.
8. TIME OF YOUR LIFE from Party Of Five.
9. YOUNG AMERICANS from Dawson's Creek.
As much as I loved The Golden Girls is as much as I loathed Golden Palace. I try to forget it ever existed. The Ropers wasn’t as bad as Three’s A Crowd though.
The Golden Palace actually wasn’t all that bad.
@@COMPFUNK2 i enjoyed it for what i was
I would also add Three's A Crowd (another Three's Company spin-off)
@@timwong5908 didnt know Company had a spin-off
There was “The Law and Harry McGraw,” starring Jerry Orbach. It was a spin off of Murder, She Wrote.
I only saw a few episodes it a few months ago
You forgot the Threes Company spin-off where Jack winds up with the flight attendant living above the restaurant. That was only one season. Jack should have wound up with Janet but they screwed it up.
Mad TV poked fun at it once.😂
It was a Spanish version an john
Ridder was posed at this sex crazed guy who wanted to do them an
Did anything to get it even
Stalk them.😂
ABSOLUTELY!
There’s a Crowd
Don't forget The Ropers as well.
2 spin offs The Ropers and Three's a crowd. ZiggyWalsh that claimed There's a crowd is wrong about title.
How did That 80’s show NOT! Make this list?!
Technically, that isn’t a spinoff because none of the cast members or characters from That ‘70s Show were on it. It was just another show from the same producers with a similar theme.
Wow! Kate "Captain Janeway" Mulgrew as Mrs. Colombo! In the '80's, my grandmother and I got hooked on Dynasty, and seems like they tried some spinoff called The Colbys, which featured the "Fallon" character, got increasingly goofy, something about a UFO, got cancelled as quick as some of these programs.
I don’t think Mrs Columbo was ever shown in the Columbo ssries. It was debatable if Columbo was even married since it seems he told different stories about his wife depending on the suspect he was questioning.
@@andrewward5891 Mrs. Columbo was never shown in the original Columbo series. Also, the show Mrs. Columbo briefly changed its name to Mrs. Callahan! (maybe she married Dirty Harry?)
She's lucky to have grown into her archetype, imagine being 24 years old and look like she did in "Mrs. Columbo".
The Colbys lasted two seasons. It was never as popular as the parent show and diluted the brand. Pretty much a carbon copy. After the show was cancelled, several characters migrated back to the parents series (Fallon, Jeff, Sable, Monica)
@@SpamEggSausage Mrs. Columbo divorced itself from the Columbo series (literally) during its run. The show's title changed several times from Mrs. Columbo to Kate Columbo to Kate the Detective to Kate Loves a Mystery all in the course of 1 1/2 seasons. The character's last name was changed to Callahan to separate itself from Columbo and it was said Kate was now a divorced single mother
Does anyone at all remember Vinny and Bobby? It was a Married With Children spin off with Matt LeBlanc. This is my ultimate what we’re you thinking spin-off lol
Top of the Heap
@@zoulblade omg!!!!!!!! You just made my night! The original original
it's alright. lol
Oddly enough, that was the most successful of the Married With Children three spinoffs lol
@@ScottyDoezntKnow and it was totally my favorite as a kid. Adult me looked up clips and I was like “why did I love this so much?” 😂
What was sad about AfterMASH, was that veterans could have had good stories to talk about. As for Galactica 1980, it was a wreck from the FTL jump.
Had CBS not moved the second season of AfterMASH to Tuesday night up against The 'A' Team, it would've been successful.
They shouldn't have called it AfterMASH. They should have called it AfterALDA.
@@Trekmaster47 'Tuesday on the all-new AfterALDA...'
I would watch both, 1980 is still a guilty pleasure. I like bad Sci Fi.
@@Trekmaster47it was a play on words. The title was a portmanteau of the word aftermath (results following a catastrophic event like war) and the original series title MASH
Models Inc. was a spinoff of Melrose Place, which was tied in to the Beverly Hills 90210 franchise.
True but Models had no direct connection to BH90210. Grant Show who played Jake on Melrose Place was the only character to feature on all three shows (90210, Melrose and Models)
In Models, Linda Gray played the mother of Heather Locklear's character. Years later, on the reboot 90210, Linda Gray played a completely different character
Some honorable mentions. Archie Place and Gloria both bombs of All in the family. The Ropers spinoff of threes company. The Lone gun men spin off off The X files.
_The Lone Gunmen_ was good. Better than _The X-Files_ was at that point.
Archie Bunkers Place lasted 4 seasons.. not exactly a bomb.
The Brady Brides, should have been Marcia and Jan ending up marrying Greg and Peter…people would have tuned in for that. 😂
🤣🤣🤣 i see what you mean there
Baywatch Nights......
.Why?
One of TV's longest running and most successful series, "Gunsmoke" had a spin off in 1974 called "Dirty Sally," which lasted for 14 episodes before cancellation - despite actress Jeanette Nolan recieving an Emmy nomination as Sally,.
I guess if The Ropers, spin-off of Three's Company is not on the list, that means it's not as bad as all these on the list.
OMG, no, it doesn’t deserve to be on a worst list. The worst part about that show was they told Mr Roper (Norman Fell) that he could go back to three’s company if his show failed but that was a blatant lie.
It lasted longer than "Three's a Crowd"
That was a shit show.
Three's a Crowd was an amazing spin off. I wish it had taken off.
@@chrisnorris2076 I love it. Watch it often. I actually like it more than Three's Company.. I know, blasphemy.
@@anamariagil2898 No, Norman was told they could go back if Ropers didn't survive a full season.
It got cancelled in Season 2. And thank god, cause we got to keep Mr.Furly who was miles better than the Ropehearders!
Cheers at least gave us one successful spinoff, Frasier.
@@AirstripOne-nd4du I’ll let him know when I see him.
The role of Loretta Tortelli was portrayed by Jean Thompson Kasem, wife of Casey Kasem.
The worst stepmom ever.
That was probably the only highlight of a mediocre acting career.
Poor Casey deserved better.
She was annoying. 😂
And your point is... ?
I actually liked the "Wonderland" spinoff, shame that it only lasted one season.
i did too but it was ment for one season
Same
Me too. I thought it was a good spinoff that incorporated enough of the original but kept it as it's own thing.
Potter,Klinger, and the Father were usually minor characters on MASH. Trying to make them the major characters in a spin off was difficult
Same!
After Mash, Sanford Arms and Brady Brides weren't "spin offs"; they were sequel series. A sequel is a continuation of a previous story, and that's exactly what those three shows were. Same with Golden Palace, Archie's Place and Are You Being Served Again.
Bruh
90s actresses had a style that is sorely missed
I wonder if that footage of After MASH was taken from my father's collection? He had the whole series on VHS of which he tapped back in the day. Then he transferred it over to DVD back in the 00's and to his knowledge were the only digital copies that existed due to low demand. He eventually sold the whole thing on ebay for some emergency cash during the 2008 financial crisis.
Baywatch Nights wasn't that bad, I actually became interested when it took on the supernatural elements. By the way, I loved the theme song the 2nd season. FYI: The name of the song for the 2nd Season of Baywatch Nights is called "Nights Will Never Be The Same" by Alfonzo Blackwell.
This was one my wife's three favorite David Hasselhoff shows. Meh, in my opinion.
I was working nights an enjoyed it when it was on.
Someone made a joke that Hasselhoff should have gotten Pamela Anderson a part on BN. That would have saved it. 😂
Seriously, the show suffered an identity crises. After failing as a Cali-Magnum PI show, it then attempted to go the X Files route. The problem was that it again could not decide how it wanted to proceed. At times it wanted to be sarcastically "tongue in cheek" like an old show my parents watched called "The Nightstalker". It then would switch atmosphere to try to go for the dark, foreboding, X Files, Millennium aesthetic. In addition, Hasselhoff is not the most believable actor to carry a dramatic show.
The Ropers... The Ropers! The Ropers!! The Ropers!!! THE ROPERS!!!
The Ropers were better as supporting characters on Three's Company.
@@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc That's the reason why neraly all these spin-offs failed!
@@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc I agree... I think the SCUM-BAG Producers of 'Threes Company' used the crappy 'Ropers' show to save money by luring Norman Fell & Audrey Lindsey away so they could get Don Knotts. They could pay Mr. Knotts more then the others made each and still save money. Then didn't support the new show. Again... SCUM- BAGS!!
Baywatch Nights was so off the wall, they should have created a brand new character as the lead instead of recycling Mitch as a moonlighting P.I. A P.I. who later in Season 2 investigates the paranormal. And of course give the show a completely different name instead of referring to Baywatch. Why can't David Hasselhoff play 2 different characters on 2 different (unrelated) shows at the same time?
There's probably a story to that. David Hasselhoff was looking to move on from Baywatch by then. He wanted to do a Peter Gunn remake. But couldn't get the right. So he pitched a show called 'Santa Monica NIghts' with him and Gregalan Alan Williams as private eyes with a lethal weapon style dynamic. But what emerged from that was Baywatch nights. I think he lost some creative battles to the other producers. Knowing this, he looks so fed up in the second season of nights it's amazing.
@@paultapner2769 The second season was just for marketing purposes. They didn't want to make it look like the _Baywatch_ title was a failure so they shat out a second season, anyway. He looks fed up because they were essentially beating a dead horse at that point.
"Joey" exemplifies what I always said about "Friends". The cast works well.of one another, but individually they do not have the comedic strength to carry a show on their own.
Great deep dive into 1970’s sitcoms. I love them all, even the bad spin offs were great
Thank you for the update, WatchMojo..!! I have not heard of all spin-offs mentioned in the list until today. 🤣 The Baywatch one is weird. 🥶
I love Blacklist, but the spinoff was missing Reddington monologues. That is a hard character to replace. And Joey was just the wrong character to pick for a spinoff.. should have been Monica/Chandler or Ross/Rachel
Amanda was one of the best parts of Highlander the series. So sad that Raven didn't do better with audiences.
Joey only works with Rachel , Ross , Chandler , Monica and Phoebe , Friends only is good 'cause of the characters and their stories , none of them will be good alone
Precisely, it was an ensemble comedy, with no true lead. Also, Joey never mentioned his pals at all in the spinoff, aside from briefly in the Pilot.
@@trinaqThey didn't have cameos with any of the Friends of others.
David Schwimmer directed some of the "Joey" episodes, so would it have hurt to have him pop up in front of the camera as Ross in one episode.
After Mash also failed because it was scheduled up against "The A-Team".
So.... they should have just made a show called More Friends?
I liked Baywatch Nights but mostly because of a young Angie Harmon. I also liked Joey.
I actually liked Models Inc 🤩 I’m surprised The Golden Palace wasn’t on this list
Not to mention "K-9 & Company", or "Class" ("Doctor Who")
I think Carrie Anne Moss was on that show, years before she would be in The Matrix movies.
I was actually considering the Golden Palace until I realized that Bea Arthur was the weakest member of the original quartet.
@@PHSDM104 why would you say that??
@@BossBrookeArmstrong She was the straight man to majority of the jokes
I'm surprised that "Top of the Heap" (Married... With Children spin-off) wasn't mentioned. It was pretty bad.
The Patrick Star Show, Kamp Coral, Ben 10: Omniverse, and other bad TV spinoffs should be on the list for a part 2. 🎬🎬🎬🎬🎬🎬🎬🎬📺
It's explained in the video that animated shows would be their own list.
If youre interested in how Baywatch got a detective and then supernatural spinoff, Alison Pregler has a comedic recap series called Baywatching that covers the episode and the issues behind the scenes that led to it.
Even though I loved “The Golden Girls” am sorta surprised the spin-off “The Golden Palace” didn’t get a mention on this list.
or the Designing Women spin-off Women of the House featuring Delta Burke
Even the writers of _Galactica 1980_ hated the show. They would chant "Come on, 13" because 13 was the ratings the show needed to dip down to to get cancelled.
“Highlander: Raven” was a good series. They made a very good distinction: that in order for the immortality to kick in, you’re initial death had to be violent. She was a good character. The show deserved a longer run.
They went into that a little on the original Highlander Show.. I remember the main episode that went into it was a girl dying in a car accident. They said something about the violent death.. Then I think the Highlander Endgame movie did as well. I love anything Highlander. Raven was great. And I cannot wait for the new movie.
I liked it as well, wanted to see how the relationship would change. I think a second season would have helped it find its feet.
The series was nice but it needed more time like the original series
I liked CSI Cyber, After Mash, and many others on this list
The Tortelli’s set looked a lot like the Married With Children set
They both premiered around the same time (spring 1987) and featured similar themes - crash working class family. While the Tortellis was cancelled, MWC was one of the new FOX network's early hits
"it's the end of the world, he's Dead" [insert Laugh track]
What the heck were they thinking
3:00 NOBODY wanted Walking Dead 90210. Nobody. Not even self centered self indulgent zoomers.
People who liked the original were drawn to interpersonal relationships of many different age groups and backgrounds, not kids and their kid problems.
That reeks of something a mid level executive thought up while reading teeny bopper blogs and not actual market research with stats and sound logic.
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I agree about Criminal Minds Beyond Borders. But the other Criminal Minds spin off was much worse.
The rest of those you can have or I've never heard of. But leave Booker is pretty awesome. Not as good as Jump Street, but it had a charm. The Lucille episode about BB King's famous guitar is worth the existence of the series by itself.
Did that show kill Richard Grieco’s career?
@@crescentfreshbret Maybe. But it was a fun cop/P.I. type show. It deserved more of a shot.
Booker was alright, plus love the theme song
@@crescentfreshbret a few years later when the WB first premiered in 1995, one of their first shows was Marker starring Richard Grieco. It only lasted 1 season
Scrubs Med School - This wasn't even half as good as the original Scrubs series
How did Hello Larry not make the list? It was a spin off of high tated Different Strokes (which successfully spun off Facts of Life). But Larry crashed and burned in less then 2 seasons.
“Hello Larry” is NOT a spin-off. NBC scheduled it on the same evening as “Diff’rent Strokes.” With its bad ratings, the network decided to do crossovers in an attempt to increase the viewership. They failed.
@@ZiggyWalsh - I stand corrected. I remember watching the different strokes episodes as a kid that had the Hello Larry cast guest starring (they made Larry and Mr Drummond army pals) and I assumed Hello Larry was a spin-off (like everyone else I never watched Hello Larry). Hello Larry’s ratings were so bad they used to make fun of the show on “Real People”, another NBC show.
Whitman Mayo starred in two failed "Sanford & Son" spin offs - you mentioned "Sanford Arms," but "Grady" only lasted 10 episodes in 1975.
Technically he appeared in three. In 1980, NBC revived Sanford and Son as Sanford bringing back Redd Foxx only minus Lamont. Whitman guest starred in 2 episodes of the failed revival which lasted 1 1/2 seasons
IMO Kinight Rider 2000 is by far the worst and most unnecessary spin-off of all time. I'm not the least surprised that the TV Series this pilot was supposed to be a pilot for was never realized. 🤮
There were 2 positives with "Joey". One, we found out that Drea diMatteo is a pretty good comedic actress. And two, it allowed Matt LeBlanc to find the woman who would become his wife, in his neighbour.
I doubt the family he left to marry this woman would agree.
Wouldn’t have had Once Upon A Time In Wonderland on this list I actually enjoyed that. I would of included Team Knight Rider, The Munsters Today, Angels’ 88, Fame L.A. and most U.S. remakes of U.K. shows.
Don't forget about Top of The Heap! - The Short-Lived Married With Children Spinoff, that I think went 2-3 episodes
6 episodes. not including the backdoor pilot episode of MWC. But Top of the Heap had its own spin-off, Vinnie & Bobby, which lasted 7 episodes
The only spinoff I remember is the Finder, a spinoff of Bones. There was a backdoor pilot episode called the finder
I never knew Captain Janeway was Mrs. Columbo
Galactica 1980 should have been so much better and still on the same budget. Wonderland wasn't too bad. Nor was Baywatch Nights actually.
Amanda was amazing in Highlander, so Raven was disappointing. And I actually liked Models Inc, lol!
I vote Joanie Loves Chachi as the worst spinoff here.
Off this list, I'd say The Ropers, that was terr-Ribble!
I quite enjoyed CSI Cyber. Maybe because i'm into IT so I understood their technobabble 😅
Booker was ACTUALLY GOOD and BETTER than Jump Street. It was like a 90s version of The Rockford Files. It also featured early roles for Don Cheadle and Maura Tierney. Also, Glen Morgan and James Wong moved onto The X-Files.
The movie "The last kiss goodnight" has a brilliant joke. One of the bad guys says to the other bad "I saw something disturbing last night". The other guy responds irritated with "Yes, it's called Baywatch Nights".
I love CSI, but CSI: Cyber was just not good. Between how they changed Ted Danson's character to characters that had no development to CBS putting it on Sundays where episodes would be delayed by football if they weren't postponed, it was a mess. You'd be hard pressed to find a CSI fan who says that's their favorite spinoff.
Top of the Heap , With Matt Le Blanc again, 7 episodes
There was an even worse on,Top of the Heap,spun off of Married with Children.
Did that ever air, outside the Back Door Pilot?
@@kinyutaka no
@@kinyutaka yes it did. for 6 episodes and even had a spin off of its own, Vinnie & Bobby
I watched a few episodes of "Mr. T and Tina" I remember one episode ended with Pat Morita using a malfunctioning flying belt. Weird, but not funny.
Technically Mr. T and Tina was a spin-off of Welcome Back, Kotter. The character had been featured in ONE episode the previous season. However, Pat Morita was more popularly known for his recurring role on Happy Days as Arnold which he was also featured in the season before Mr. T and Tina.
When Mr. T and Tina was cancelled mid-season, Morita reprised the Arnold character later that same season. But not on Happy Days but on a spin-off called Blansky's Beauties. However, while Happy Days took place in the 1950's, the spin-off took place in the then current day late 1970s and Arnold had not aged a day since his time on Happy Days (LOL)
No mention of The Golden Girls spin-off The Golden Palace???
It was not a bad show. That is why.
You forgot the married with children spin-off, if you wanted Matt lablance
Hey, if you can watch Baywatch, you can watch Baywatch Nights. I loved it :P lol
I liked After Mash better than the original in a way. At least as an idea. They really needed to expand on it. Excellent idea.
There was a pilot spin-off of AfterMASH called W*A*L*T*E*R featuring the character of Radar. Only the pilot episode aired.
I'm surprised Girl Meets World isn't on here. Now that show was some HOT garbage
I liked it as a preteen, but now, I can agree that it wasn't a patch on the original series.
I didn’t think it was garbage, but it certainly was a huge let down to those of us who love BMW
It's a great show for its target audience. But due to that, it was never going to be as good as BMW. It should be appreciated for what it was as opposed to what people wanted it to be.
"... stuck in drab offices..." Then the writing wasn't very good. I mean, how do you explain Barney Miller.
They should have added the Muppets 2015 show.
Maybe Top 10 Worst Cartoon Spin-offs. I’m pretty sure that Kamp Koral and The Patrick Star Show together would be on that list.
And Velma.
Also I really like Teen Titans Go! and people have mixed feelings about it. So if TTG is on that list, I actually wouldn’t mind it. 🤷♂️
DEFINITELY Velma
@@zahirewatts331TTG is a reboot, not a spinoff
Granted, "Once Upon A Time in Wonderland" isn't es good as "Once Upon A Time", but it was very promising. I liked it and would've loved more seasons.
"Joey" also wasn't THAT bad. The main problem was that it had to compete with "Friends" success. If you ignore this competition, then "Joey" isn't even remotely as bad.
I haven't seen the other spin-offs (in most cases I haven't even seen the parent shows).
No "love" for the crappo Married with Children spinoff called Top of the Heap with Joe Bologna, Matt LeBlanc and Joey Lauren Adams?
What about “Buddies,” the horrible spin-off of “Home Improvement”? YIKES!
Personally, I liked CSI:Cyber. But i think it was ahead of its time. It might have do better these days.
TWD World Beyond was Ok but it was just stupid that they had no idea what the hell was going on outside their compound, just like how the Alexandrians and Commonwealth people were mostly clueless to the danger even after so many years. After a few years, how the hell could you survive without knowing basic self-defense or about the dangers of the dead, made no sense.
Many spin-offs shouldn't happen because it takes the magic away from the original, especially when they try changing the lore.
I was never a fan of Friends but I did know of Joey and I remember that show. Well, the commercials anyway.
Spoken like a fan
I knew about "The Brady Bunch Variety Hour" spin off, but I didn't know about Brady wives.
Highlander the raven was awesome anything Highlander is amazing ❤
Takahashi was Arnolds real name in Happy Days.
Criminal Minds: Beyond Borders was a good show. Yes, there were lots of clichés and ridiculous mistakes but that did not bother me that much when I watched the episode taking place in France. Never was a fan of the CSI franchise but CSI: Cyber was a nice surprise, Booker was not that bad and Once Upon A Time in Wonderland's plot line was way better than the plots of the original show's latest seasons.
Isn't FBI: International the same premise as Criminal Minds: Beyond Borders?
@@radrobd123 Yep pretty much. Just like FBI: Most Wanted is the same premise than Criminal Minds. Never understood why they cancelled the Criminal Minds franchise to replace it with something similar.
@@cheekyfarfallinaspoken like a fan
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In "The Tortellis" I really liked Nick's son Anthony and his wife Annie ever since seeing their dynamic on "Cheers"; those two should have had their own spinoff
How funny is it that back then the concept of more than one family buying a home together was crazy enough that it was a crazy concept for a TV spin off.
I loved Baywatch Nights!
Honorable mention: a Doctor Who spin-off called “Class” (2016)
Any show - original or spinoff - won't work without characters and storylines you care about.
I disagree with 3 on this list. Once Upon a Time in Wonderland, CSI Cyber and Criminal Minds Beyond Borders. They were all REALLY good shows and I thought it was unfair they were all cancelled. I'm just happy that at least they all got a happy ending.
So are we going to praise That 80s Show? Why isn’t that on the list?
Good call
I was looking ahead into comments hoping to see this! I can’t believe they didn’t mention it. So terrible.
Except for our introduction to Glenn Howerton.
I've said this several times now. That 80's Show wasn't a spin-off. It was titled that way to capitalize on the success of That '70s Show, but the series share no characters or anything else in common.
I feel like we are missing That 80s Show and I would consider that last season of Scrubs a spin off.
New characters on an existing show isn't a spinoff. The Practice, that show had a spinoff through Boston Legal, with the Alan Shore first introduced in The Practice's final season.
Wasn’t Top of the Heap also a spin off of Married with Children? Matt LeBlanc ended up in two failed spin offs.
But he did manage to eventually have success in Episodes. Unfortunately Matthew Perry just hasn’t been able to hitch his wagon to a successful show since Friends. I’m still disappointed that Go On only lasted one season. It was a great show with a great cast. That was the show that introduced me to the wonderful Brett Gelman.
@@crescentfreshbret wrong Matt. Matt LeBlanc was Joey, Perry is Chandler.
3 failed spin-offs. Top of Heap, Vinnie & Bobby, which was a short-lived spin-off of Top of Heap and then Joey
I really liked the ALICE spinoff even though I didnt watch Once Upon a Time.
The Blacklist: Redemption should have been great because Tom Keen was such a great character (and underutilized in the original series). But, yeah, it was basically Blacklist with Tom replacing Liz and Susan replacing Red. Such a waste of possibility and cast.
Most of these just show why most supporting characters are SUPPORTING characters.
I loved Baywatch Nights 🥹
Cuts should've made the list. One on One didn't need a spinoff.
Wasn't Melrose Place a spinoff of Beverley Hills 90210? So wouldn't Models Inc. be another spinoff of the parent show?
yes, it was. More like 90210 was the grandparent show to Models, which was a spin-off of a spin-off
The Best- Frasier
1. The Tortellis (Cheers spin-off)
2. Mr T & Tina (spin-off of Mr Kotter)
3. The Brady Brides
4. Baywatch Nights
5. Joanie Loves Chachi
6. Criminal Minds: Beyond Borders
7. Models Inc. (Melrose Place spin-off)
8. Sanford Arms
9. Highlander: The Raven
10. Joey (Friends spin-off)
11. Booker (21 Jump Street spin-off)
12. The Blacklist: Redemption
13. Once upon a time in Wonderland (spin-off of Once upon a time)
14. Living Dolls (Who’s the Boss spin-off)
15. Mrs. Columbo
16. Galactica 1980
17. Checking In (Jeffersons spin-off)
18. Waking Dead: The World Beyond
19. After Mash
20. CSI: Cyber