Helluva Boss is so good. I personally like it a bit more than Hazbin Hotel. It's a bit more raunchy and gorey but it develops into a deep story about relationships in Hell. And we get to see more of Hell than just the Pride Ring (which Sinners can't leave)
Basically on hell there are different places each associated to one sin (Hazbin Hotel is in the circle of Pride, since Lucifer is not only the king of all hell, but also the represntation of Pride). Helluva boss is about an agency of imps whose clients want to murder people on Earth.
6:54 "I attacked you literally last week...!" That's because the pilot canonically happened 1 week before the first episode of the Amazon series starts, on the Hazbin timeline.
@@alliet.7582 Parts of the pilot have been retconned too, though, so check the info before taking it at face value. For instance, Vaggie's origin story and how she met Charlie is different now in the main series than how it was in the pilot and comics. And obviously some characters' designs and motives have changed too. I.e., Carmilla Carmine.
The fandom is pretty sure that Lucifer could only come and help after Adam attacked Charlie. In the first episode Lute said "You're only here because Daddy gave you and your Hellborn kind a pardon from the exorcist Blade" Lucifers Deal was that he would not interfere in the Extermination, and in turn Charlie and every Hellborn being (Imps, Hellhounds, Sirens, Succubi, you'll meet them in helluva boss) would be safe. So until Adam actually hurt Charlie, His hands were bound. But after that... Nah, now the gloves are _off_
I mean yeah, but it wasn't Charlie that would've broken the deal. The death of Dazzle would've broken the deal. Razzle and Dazzle are technically Hellborn.
@@remmy3571 I'm really on the fence about that, becasue they are not _born_ at all, I'm not even sure how much they are sentient or if they are more like robots on a programming.( I know Charlie definitly saw them as alive, but that doesn't mean that they were for the intents of purposes of this specific deal) I think that part is really up to speculation
@saiyasha848 They were stuffed animals that were brought to life by Lucifer's magic. They ARE sentient and DO have personalities so I think it could be assumed that they're Hellborn since they're sentient beings created in hell.
"Wait, Alastor's asexual? His rizz is off the chart though." In the words of Alastor's VA, "You don't have to f*ck to be fab" 😂 --- I think Charlie feeling betrayed is valid because as she said, she told Vaggie everything about her and Vaggie should also know that she would forgive her if she told the truth. Basically, from her point of view, Charlie trusted her wholeheartedly and thought that she know everything about her girlfriend only to find out that that she was not being trusted back and thought that Vaggie probably doubted her character of accepting her as an angel that killed thousands of her people. That one secret and doubt shake her solid wall of trust and then it proceeded to grow out of proportion in her mind and, in her subconcious, start to doubt Vaggie's every word and action, checking if she missed something. --- For me, the song with the cannibals is the first song that is much closer to a musical theatre after all the years of saying that the show would be a broadway musical inspiration. In the first few episodes, while the musics are good and is still being played repeatedly in my phone, I was feeling confused because it doesn't have the feel of a musical theatre song and thought that probably it's because I never watched a musical theatre and only heard few songs, and some clips of it throught yt, so I don't actually have the experience or knowledge about musical theatre. But when I heard this song, I thought, "this, this feels like a song for a musical theatre."
not you complaining that it doesn't sound like a musical when you've barely even heard any musicals 😭 as a huge musical fan i think hazbin's songs are very musical-esque! hell, even most of the cast is played by broadway stars!
@@m00n_beetle Haha don't worry, i'm not complaining I was just confused because Hazbin Hotel songs were different from some of the musical theatre songs I've heard from yt. I mean, yes, they are musical-esque but for me it feels like a Disney-esque and YT Character song-esque songs than musical theatre-esque songs? (I'm getting dizzy on how to explain this haha😵) Basically, It's just so different that the songs from the first few episodes is not giving me the vibe of a theatre song. I know I don't actually have the place to say "it's not like musical theatre!" when I've only heard songs and watch some clips throught yt but its the "musical theatre that I know of", you know? It's not like I can afford to go into one 😭. What I'm trying to say was that the song "Ready for this" is the song that, uh I don't how to describe, like something that tug my heart that makes me finally see the "broadway musical inspired" that Vivziepop was talking about and the one the one I was looking forward to have glimpse of it based from my small experience? Does that make any sense? Hm, I don't really know how to put it into words haha 😅.
I think even a small chance of losing someone is hard and trauma makes it harder. Sometimes it's solely hard form trsuma. I struggled to open up with my boyfriend who was very sweet and patient but the difference is I let him know it was hard but not because of him. Now everything is great. You can definitely see both sides here which I like.
@@average-art3222 there are the hell hounds and then the animal sinners and animal heaven souls ares just people whose soul reflected those aspects to them when they died.
@average-art3222 the hell hounds are from the Gluttony ring, and their Sin is Beelzebub who has an animal trainer circus act theme, and the sharks are from Greed
If you're disappointed Vox didn't get enough screen time, don't worry, according to both the creator and their last spoken line in the season, the Vs (Vox, Velvette and Valentino) will have bigger roles in season 2. And yes, we're getting a season 2, they already confirmed season 2 was in development before the first episodes officially dropped.
I think one thing people don’t take into account is that charlie never fell, she’s in hell bc she was born there, not bc she did something bad, so she lacks the ability to really relate to a lot of the sinners, which results in her making a lot of faux passes despite her ernest attempts to help and do her best. It’s not a character flaw, but it is an aspect of her that makes her seem more naive than the actual sinners, which can result in her rubbing people the wrong way.
I do not get the love for him completely. He is such a dumbass. Even his sacrifice is dumb, at least does not make sense to me for sure. What did he try to accomplish? Because if someone says his only goal was to make Charlie go mad and relese her power, I do not belive that... he was too dumb for such a plan... and anything else, just does not make sense.
@@WelchyAlastor's Wendigo form is best thing on this show my favorite Asexual character. Alastor the Radio Demon Full Demon Transformation: Alastor, like any other demon in Hazbin Hotel, has a more demonic form, this form, only shown in Vaggie's story about Alastor, resembles a wendigo, a mythical creature, also, his eyes become glowing red, his smile becomes wider and his antlers become larger, resembling loosely to tree ... I love Lilith and Lucifer story something of this is even in demonology. Charlie and Vaggie are best couple.
25:10 A good question that isn't well explained in the show itself. When a sinner (an ex human demon) dies again in hell, you respawn after a short while, though the round trip to double death and afterlife again is said to be excruciatingly painful, though the same cannot be said for the natives of Hell (which you'll see in Helluva Boss). However, angelic weapons trigger permadeath to the sinful or redemption of a worthy soul in the case of Sir Pentious. Come to think of it, that might be part of why Cannibal Town picked up such a following. Everyone they eat eventually comes back to life, so despite how dark and gruesome it is, they basically developed an infinite food glitch.
yea im pretty sure the ONLY explicit reference to this in the whole show is near the start of episode 2, velvette says, "he tore up my best model, and you know the show can't wait for that unlucky bitch to pull herself back together", as she picks up a severed arm out of a pile of severed limbs one of her assistants is carrying and even this line isn't super clear and is very missable
So, everyone in hell were once human, but once they die, they turned into objects or animals that they either centered their life around, reflects their personality, or time/effect of death. For Alastor, he was a serial killer in New Orleans and uses Voodoo (explains the stitches that appears). While burying a victim, he was mistaken as a deer and was shot in the head. It's an analogy of the hunter becomes the hunted, thus he becomes a deer demon. For Angel Dust, he was born in the mafia and was part of the family business. He overdosed on drugs and became a spider demon because he was wrapped in his family's "web of lies". Hope this helps
Ok I need to know where this information is coming from because I am so confused. Is this information coming from one of Vivians interviews? I've heard she gives out way too much backstory of characters in interviews.
@@--------04 ok thank you for clearing that I don't like the fact we don't get this information in the show. I don't think fans should have to go digging for backstory info. Thanks again
Eh Angels case is moreso abiut how he comes from mafia family, thats why all his family in hell(and his twin sister in heaven, should we get intriduced to them) are all spiders. 'Winners' or heaven sent human souls, also get a new form
"Who listens to radio" Me: my mom "If you listen to radio you're definitely born before the 1960s" Lol, she born December 13 1959. Two week before 1960 😂
Just to let you know. The Hazbin Hotel pilot and all Helluva Boss episodes on Vivziepop's TH-cam channel can be reacted to with no cuts or editing on your channel. Vivziepop (Vivienne Medrano) loves reaction channels covering her content and she does not copyright strike. However, all episodes of the official first season of Hazbin Hotel only on Prime are a different story as they are not solely owned by Vivziepop alone.
The songs in ep 1, even if recorded from Viv’s channel are getting copyright claimed by Prime, so this isn’t super accurate, the pilot is safe, but the ep 1 she has on her channel is not safe to full react w/o editing.
@@FrostyFyre I never said anything about episode 1 being excluded from copyright. In fact I even said ALL EPISODES of season 1 of Hazbin Hotel on Prime would need some editing of some extent. I believe the full episode 1 isn't even on her channel anymore (just the teaser trailer). But what I said about the pilot and all the Helluva Boss episodes being safe from copyright strike still remains true.
@@Z-one1000 You're right, I was tired when I left that comment, I read hazbin hotel and not helluva boss. Also just realizing ep 1 is no longer on Viv's channel, makes sense as it was just a promotion thing, but I had not noticed until now.
Lucifer looking like a conductor for the circus is actually accurate. That's exactly what his design is based on. Because in this show, Hell is depicted as a circus, and each ring of hell (7 rings stacked together) is based on a different circus act. So as the King, he's their Ringmaster. Ah damn, you skipped over Adam getting his ass kicked, I look forward to people's reaction to that 😂 It actually took me a minute to realize Lucifer was voiced by Jeremy until he started singing. That man will make any character an insta-favourite for me
Due to the contract/deal with Heaven, Lucifer couldn’t help them fight back until it was proven his daughter (a hell born) was in danger by the angels hand. As soon as Adam said he was going to kill her, he stepped in immediately. And I’m sure he was just watching and waiting for the opportunity before then.
Or, it was actually Dazzle's death. Dazzle was a hellborn demon. Also it goes with the theme of "sacrifical lamb" making that part of Lucifer's song foreshadowing.
This is genuinely such a fun show. Charlie is adorable, The Radio Demon is a menace, the other characters are great and the music is on point all bangers
@@WelchyPLEASE REACT TO "SPIRIT: STALLION OF THE CIMARRON"! It's a story about a strong, beautiful horse with a spirit that can never be broken. I cry every time i watch it! It's a INCREDIBLE film, and the songs are so cool! But it's not a musical and the animals can't talk. 😭💔🔥
7:15 "you're English no one cares about you" my Scottish ancestors and my Scottish blood have never felt so satisfied in one sentence. Also my grandmother is a Scottish immigrant (1929)
26:33 Actually that's the whole idea. Vivziepop stated that the 7 rings of hell were meant to resemble the rings of a circus, an they lords of each ring are meant to embody some circus aspect. Lucifer sets up shop as the head of the Ring of Pride (and thus all of hell) so he adopts the look of a ringmaster. Mammon (Lord of the Greed Ring) heavily leans into clown themes. Satan (yes, there's a difference between Lucifer and satan) rules Wrath, and given the description that a heated Beelzebub gave of him and the brolic nature of Wrath's inhabitants, he likely embodies the Circus muscle man. And of course Queen Bee-lzebub (Lord of Gluttony), embodies the animal performances. I could go on. but this should give you a solid idea of what to expect without dropping spoilers.
34:43 The girl angel with the 4 legs and hot-pink outfit is none other than Molly, Angel Dust's twin sister! We never saw her in Hell, but apparently somehow she made it to Heaven. Vivzie has said that female spider demons have 4 legs and 4 arms, while the male spider demons have 6 arms and 2 legs, like Angel does (his third/lower set of arms is retractable.) And it seems Molly's second pair of arms is also retractable, since we can't see them here. All spider demons have a total of 8 limbs, she just split up which ones would be arms and legs according to gender. I love how her 2 fluffy "bangs/fringe" closely resembles a jumping spider's pedipalps (an extra set of short limbs that aren't legs, located in front of their front legs and near their mouth). Both Angel and Molly are based on jumping spiders, so that's an extra-adorable touch. I would also assume that since Angel has 2 toes on each foot like real spider paws have (he hates his feet for that reason,) that Molly also has 2 lil' toe beans on each foot as well.
Blink and you'll miss it, but you can see Charlie picking out the souvinir for Vaggie even before her heart-to-heart with Rosie. It wasn't that she didn't trust Vaggie, or stopped loving her. She was just conflicted on how to express her feelings. There was ALSO a lot of swlf doubt; "if my partner can't trust me enough to tell me something as big as this, is there something wrong with me?"
And the award goes to... "Fawn-Flying" for being so different! A round of applause for "TheFlyingFawn". Thank you, "TheFaunaFlying" for being so brave.
I've loved this common theme for reactors who are going in blind to this show, where their dislike for Sir Pentious quickly turns into a cheer squad for him. To get accepted by the others, to get in with Cherry, to win the battle. The sheer anger-surprise at his death is 100% relatable and then the transitioning reactions to his redemption, are fucking beautiful bc we all were there rooting for him.
I still find it hard to believe sir pentious and Adam share a voice actor As for Vees (Vox,Valentino and Velvet) They’re meant to be the season 2 main antagonists
Just wait until Niffty inevitably kills Valentino in season 2 because he’s a bug who has been hurting one of her friends. The Niffty slander must stop lmao
Okay, but when he said, "this is the most Disney song ever" when Vaggie started singing, I almost died laughing. 😂 (Her VA is Stephanie Beatriz, who also voiced Mirabel from Encanto.)
Lol, it's kind of funny that you enjoyed "Hell is forever" but didn't like "It starts with sorry." Adam and Sir Pentious have the same voice actor. He's played by Alex Brightman, from Broadway. In fact 90% of the cast are Broadway actors.
26:36 "he looks like he could be the conductor of a circus" Well...about that...in this show and the sister show, helluva boss, the sins (leaders of the seven rings of hell) ARE circus themed, with lucifer being the ring master.
If Hazbin Hotel is a fever dream, it's the good kind of fever dream. Cuz there's a shit ton of great songs sang by broadway stars! It's Disney but in Hell :D
So glad you enjoyed this one! (Also, to answer your question, the reason they’re all such good singers is because pretty much every member of the cast are professional broadway performers, so these guys are pros!!!) Hope you check out Helluva Boss too! It’s a very different vibe of show, but really awesome in its own way.
"Charlie, Vagina-" * *wheeze* * "I love Vagina" - Welchy, 2024 Sir Pentious was the worst of us and became the best of us. Truly a wonderful madman. I won't lie: I love Adam and Lute's thing... they are so wholesome together for antagonists. Lol. Jeremy Jordan just commands respect for whatever character he plays and I'm here for it. xD "Adam is low-key hot" - Welchy, 2024. You are a braver man than most of us. Even Lucifer is saluting Sir Pentious because that is how respectable he's become. Apparently respectable enough to be in heaven too... xD
One thing I find amazing is how Emily and Sera react, Emily's reaction is one of genuine surprise and happiness while Sera's is one of just finding out that the answer was "Yes" to the question, "Am I the baddie?"
The Vees (Vox, Valentino, Velvette) actually will be the main villains next season. And I am so scared for my favourite character (Vox) becoming the villain, because of what happened to my second favourite character (Adam) this season.
"This is Lucifer? He looks like he belongs in a Circus." Well about that, the Hell is themed on Circus acts with each of the Deadly Sins that rule each ring having their ring represent a circus act. Lucifer is the Ring Leader.
Lucifer wasn't able to intervene earlier cause he made a pact with Heaven. He is NOT allowed to do anything that could interrupt an Exorcists work during Extermination Day. Except, a Angel attacks and harms a Hellborn. Charlie Is a Hellborn, therefore he rushed over as fast as he could as soon Adam smacked her towards the Hazbin Hotel Sign.
Welcome to Vivienne Medrano's fever dream of Hell and Heaven, it's a demonic disney musical. You're gonna love it! 😂❤ Yes, Pentious ended up beign the king of the show at the very end. 😢❤🎉
51:11 It's highly ironic that Adam "kills" Sir Pentious because they share a voice actor. Who, by the way, is also the basis for the design of Adam's actual face beneath his mask.
Here are all of the characters names; Alastor, Angel dust, Vaggie, Charlie, Sir Pentious, and Nifty (the ones in the hotel) Lute, Emily, Sera, Adam (the main people in heaven) Carmilla Carmine, Rosie, and Cherri Bomb.
Lilith is either from an earlier version of the bible or from Jewish folklore, I'm not sure. But the story is that she was created from the same clay or mud or earth as Adam was so they're basically equals. Either God or Adam (I'm not sure which) demanded her submission and she refused and was either cast out of the Garden or she ran away (I'm not sure which). She went on to become the mother of demons. Well that's the original story.
"I love vagina" Not gonna lie, I keep coming back to this video because it's one of the best reactions to this show, and I just registered that you said that line. Fucking hilarious.
38:57 See? Not every angel is bad - just the exterminators. And not even all of them since Vaggie has a conscience and couldn't kill a child. And Sera is hiding something - either some secret about the foundations of heaven or it's something to do with Em.
Watching someone experience Hazbin Hotel for the first time, when they've never even really heard of it.. Is SO fun. I'll definitely be watching you react to Helluva Boss if you do that one as well. Subbed!
Love this show and Helluva Boss. Heavily looking forward to watching reactions It’s funny you mention ‘Whatever it Takes’ being the most Disney of Disney. Vaggie is voiced by Mirabel herself from Encanto Lucifer and Angel Dust are my favorite characters. I love them both so much and they are constantly fighting for favorite lol. More Than Anything is my favorite song from this show. Jeremy Jordan is who voices Lucifer. I dunno if you’ve seen Tangled the series, but he voices a character in that show that I also adore so much.
To answer your question in episode 6, in Episode 2, Velvet implied her model that Valentino tore apart would 'pull herself back together' So we can assume sinners are immortal but can still feel everything. Only angelic weapons can kill a sinner permanently. Also apparently an Overlord can tear apart a sinners soul if Alastors threat in episode 6 is literal. With context from other episodes this basically could likely require repeated death and torture til insanity to tear apart a soul.
I love this guy's laugh. Normally, I'd get bored and skip a video that's over 30 minutes, but this one caught my attention for quite a long time somehow. Bravo man, your reactions are funny asf
I love your trip from hating to loving Sir Pentious 🐍 As someone who was living and breathing Hazbin Hotel before the Pilot came out, I was thriiiviiiiing on his clips
Cherry Bomb was introduced in the pilot, Sir Pentious too (hence why they and Alastor know each-other). Not seeing the pilot you also missed Angeldust saying Alastor looked like a "strawberry pimp".
Yes, please. Watch HB next. Fair warning: Stolas (owl guy) will be kind of like Sir Pentious, in that at first everyone thinks he's that really strange guy, that's only there for comedic relief but at the end everyone LOVES him. And the music is just as great as for Hazbin Hotel. Definitely check out 'Just look my way' as well if you decide to watch Helluva Boss and like the music aspect of HH/HB. Having said that, I did like how you were all 'Ew, snake guy' to 'Aw, best boi'. Both HH and HB are great at reversing expectations when it comes to characters.
I'm sure it's been mentioned by now, but all the VA's post pilot were replaced with broadway actors. Which is why everyone's got singing talent for miles. ;) Also, you should check out the pilot. It's on TH-cam and was posted like...6 years ago. There are some character tweaks between the pilot and series, but it still gives you a bit of background.
You forgot to play one of the most hilarious lines in the show so far: "Adam, leader of the angelic horde, first man, and all-around fuckable bad boy, was slain by a filthy janitor." 🤣🤣
For the question about Adam & Lilith - this comes from a version of the Jewish creation story - originally Adam & Lilith were created from the dust of the Earth, but Lilith was not subservient to Adam, so she was cast out of the Garden by God and Eve was then created, this time using a rib from Adam to make sure she basically owed her creation to Adam.
What’s a helluva boss? Like this vid if you want me to watch that then! 👀
Helluva Boss is so good. I personally like it a bit more than Hazbin Hotel. It's a bit more raunchy and gorey but it develops into a deep story about relationships in Hell. And we get to see more of Hell than just the Pride Ring (which Sinners can't leave)
YEEEESSSSS WATCH ITTTT!!!!
YES
YES!!!!
Basically on hell there are different places each associated to one sin (Hazbin Hotel is in the circle of Pride, since Lucifer is not only the king of all hell, but also the represntation of Pride). Helluva boss is about an agency of imps whose clients want to murder people on Earth.
First episode: "Uh, Sir Pentious sucks"
Last episode: "MY KING DESERVED BETTER!!!"
Yep, standard Hazbin reaction. We love our slithery king.
Это правда 😂❤
We love that slithery, slippery.....sssssspecial little man 😂
@@sutematsufr
Frrr
2nd*
“Alastor’s asexual?? His rizz is off the charts, though.”
To quote the actor when asked a similar question- “You don’t have to fuck to be fab.” 😂
As an asexual, I WILL be using that line
same energy as Spilling The Milk “Alastor is ace? he’s such a top though”
@@cryptidnipbro he tops everyone (not sexually) lol
Can you give me a timestamp?
@@Claudia_Crimson_585 42:35
6:54 "I attacked you literally last week...!" That's because the pilot canonically happened 1 week before the first episode of the Amazon series starts, on the Hazbin timeline.
Thanks! I've been wondering if the pilot was cannon.
@@alliet.7582 Parts of the pilot have been retconned too, though, so check the info before taking it at face value. For instance, Vaggie's origin story and how she met Charlie is different now in the main series than how it was in the pilot and comics. And obviously some characters' designs and motives have changed too. I.e., Carmilla Carmine.
@@alliet.7582 it mostly is, with the amazon show taking precedence where they conflict, which is mostly details of a few characters backstories.
The fandom is pretty sure that Lucifer could only come and help after Adam attacked Charlie.
In the first episode Lute said "You're only here because Daddy gave you and your Hellborn kind a pardon from the exorcist Blade"
Lucifers Deal was that he would not interfere in the Extermination, and in turn Charlie and every Hellborn being (Imps, Hellhounds, Sirens, Succubi, you'll meet them in helluva boss) would be safe.
So until Adam actually hurt Charlie, His hands were bound. But after that... Nah, now the gloves are _off_
I know about that theory, but until your comment I never noticed Lute saying that. Guess I need to go re-watch.
I mean yeah, but it wasn't Charlie that would've broken the deal.
The death of Dazzle would've broken the deal. Razzle and Dazzle are technically Hellborn.
@@remmy3571 I'm really on the fence about that, becasue they are not _born_ at all, I'm not even sure how much they are sentient or if they are more like robots on a programming.( I know Charlie definitly saw them as alive, but that doesn't mean that they were for the intents of purposes of this specific deal) I think that part is really up to speculation
@saiyasha848 They were stuffed animals that were brought to life by Lucifer's magic. They ARE sentient and DO have personalities so I think it could be assumed that they're Hellborn since they're sentient beings created in hell.
@@remmy3571 I thought it was because Dazzle was the sacrificial lamb to summon lucifer
"Wait, Alastor's asexual? His rizz is off the chart though."
In the words of Alastor's VA, "You don't have to f*ck to be fab" 😂
---
I think Charlie feeling betrayed is valid because as she said, she told Vaggie everything about her and Vaggie should also know that she would forgive her if she told the truth.
Basically, from her point of view, Charlie trusted her wholeheartedly and thought that she know everything about her girlfriend only to find out that that she was not being trusted back and thought that Vaggie probably doubted her character of accepting her as an angel that killed thousands of her people.
That one secret and doubt shake her solid wall of trust and then it proceeded to grow out of proportion in her mind and, in her subconcious, start to doubt Vaggie's every word and action, checking if she missed something.
---
For me, the song with the cannibals is the first song that is much closer to a musical theatre after all the years of saying that the show would be a broadway musical inspiration.
In the first few episodes, while the musics are good and is still being played repeatedly in my phone, I was feeling confused because it doesn't have the feel of a musical theatre song and thought that probably it's because I never watched a musical theatre and only heard few songs, and some clips of it throught yt, so I don't actually have the experience or knowledge about musical theatre. But when I heard this song, I thought, "this, this feels like a song for a musical theatre."
😂😂
@@Welchythe fact you caught that is GGs 🖤🤝🏻
not you complaining that it doesn't sound like a musical when you've barely even heard any musicals 😭 as a huge musical fan i think hazbin's songs are very musical-esque! hell, even most of the cast is played by broadway stars!
@@m00n_beetle Haha don't worry, i'm not complaining I was just confused because Hazbin Hotel songs were different from some of the musical theatre songs I've heard from yt.
I mean, yes, they are musical-esque but for me it feels like a Disney-esque and YT Character song-esque songs than musical theatre-esque songs? (I'm getting dizzy on how to explain this haha😵) Basically, It's just so different that the songs from the first few episodes is not giving me the vibe of a theatre song.
I know I don't actually have the place to say "it's not like musical theatre!" when I've only heard songs and watch some clips throught yt but its the "musical theatre that I know of", you know? It's not like I can afford to go into one 😭.
What I'm trying to say was that the song "Ready for this" is the song that, uh I don't how to describe, like something that tug my heart that makes me finally see the "broadway musical inspired" that Vivziepop was talking about and the one the one I was looking forward to have glimpse of it based from my small experience? Does that make any sense?
Hm, I don't really know how to put it into words haha 😅.
I think even a small chance of losing someone is hard and trauma makes it harder. Sometimes it's solely hard form trsuma. I struggled to open up with my boyfriend who was very sweet and patient but the difference is I let him know it was hard but not because of him. Now everything is great. You can definitely see both sides here which I like.
49:47 it's so ironic that Welchy was saying he's so horny for the showdown. Whilst in the background Vox was legit saying I am so hard right now 🤣
That's what I was thinking! XD
Me too lol
Funnily enough. Viv made the rings of hell like a circus, so Lucifer is the ringmaster.
and all the sins are either clowns or performers
is that why clowns are like idols in hell
@@mckenzie.latham91 ... So what are the animals?
@@average-art3222 there are the hell hounds
and then the animal sinners and animal heaven souls
ares just people whose soul reflected those aspects to them when they died.
@average-art3222 the hell hounds are from the Gluttony ring, and their Sin is Beelzebub who has an animal trainer circus act theme, and the sharks are from Greed
26:30 "Looks like he could be the conductor of a circus"
That is EXPLICITELY the intended design. A circus conductor... and the circus is hell.
Fitting since like Alastor sais, "The world is a stage and the stage is a world of entertainment".
This IS his circus and these ARE his monkeys.
Well doesn’t Lucifer has a circus? Called Looloo world or something
@kaykaylit4712 Lulu World (spelled with "u"s). And that's an amusement park (a direct reference to Disney World).
@@TheMusicalNight Nah, Lulu Land is spelled with u’s (copyright issues according to Robo Fizz) Lucifer’s is Looloo world
If you're disappointed Vox didn't get enough screen time, don't worry, according to both the creator and their last spoken line in the season, the Vs (Vox, Velvette and Valentino) will have bigger roles in season 2. And yes, we're getting a season 2, they already confirmed season 2 was in development before the first episodes officially dropped.
hate that
I can’t stand the V’s but I’m excited to see more of them. Can’t wait for their defeat!
V's more like Boos
So do we know about how long it’ll be till they release it?
Am I the only one in this reply section that likes the Vees 😭😭
I think one thing people don’t take into account is that charlie never fell, she’s in hell bc she was born there, not bc she did something bad, so she lacks the ability to really relate to a lot of the sinners, which results in her making a lot of faux passes despite her ernest attempts to help and do her best. It’s not a character flaw, but it is an aspect of her that makes her seem more naive than the actual sinners, which can result in her rubbing people the wrong way.
It is a character flaw. It has its strengths and uses, but it's also a hindrance to her goals.
@@SwordTune She's meant to be a symbol: You will fuck up, you don't know everything, you are learning and growing, and that's okay.
I absolutely adore your full and absolute 180 on Sir Pentious 😂
Rare sight when a character changes that much for me 😂
from his least to most favourite character, its hilarious
I was just about to comment this lol
I do not get the love for him completely. He is such a dumbass. Even his sacrifice is dumb, at least does not make sense to me for sure. What did he try to accomplish? Because if someone says his only goal was to make Charlie go mad and relese her power, I do not belive that... he was too dumb for such a plan... and anything else, just does not make sense.
@@richardkutsera4992 he tried to kill Adam... He didn't know that Adam would kill him?
45:44
Welchy: This woman (Rosie) has ALL the brain cells
Me: Yeah because shes eating everyone elses 🤣🤣🤣
I actually said that as well but cut it out 🤣
@@Welchyvalentino is bad but not as bad as bondrewd
@@kingofthedepths3513 Bondrewd best dad! That should be obvious to anyone~
Lol😂
@@WelchyAlastor's Wendigo form is best thing on this show my favorite Asexual character.
Alastor the Radio Demon
Full Demon Transformation: Alastor, like any other demon in Hazbin Hotel, has a more demonic form, this form, only shown in Vaggie's story about Alastor, resembles a wendigo, a mythical creature, also, his eyes become glowing red, his smile becomes wider and his antlers become larger, resembling loosely to tree ...
I love Lilith and Lucifer story something of this is even in demonology.
Charlie and Vaggie are best couple.
25:10
A good question that isn't well explained in the show itself. When a sinner (an ex human demon) dies again in hell, you respawn after a short while, though the round trip to double death and afterlife again is said to be excruciatingly painful, though the same cannot be said for the natives of Hell (which you'll see in Helluva Boss). However, angelic weapons trigger permadeath to the sinful or redemption of a worthy soul in the case of Sir Pentious.
Come to think of it, that might be part of why Cannibal Town picked up such a following. Everyone they eat eventually comes back to life, so despite how dark and gruesome it is, they basically developed an infinite food glitch.
yea im pretty sure the ONLY explicit reference to this in the whole show is near the start of episode 2, velvette says, "he tore up my best model, and you know the show can't wait for that unlucky bitch to pull herself back together", as she picks up a severed arm out of a pile of severed limbs one of her assistants is carrying
and even this line isn't super clear and is very missable
@@Chmmr I believe you’re correct. That’s the only one I spotted.
So, everyone in hell were once human, but once they die, they turned into objects or animals that they either centered their life around, reflects their personality, or time/effect of death.
For Alastor, he was a serial killer in New Orleans and uses Voodoo (explains the stitches that appears). While burying a victim, he was mistaken as a deer and was shot in the head. It's an analogy of the hunter becomes the hunted, thus he becomes a deer demon.
For Angel Dust, he was born in the mafia and was part of the family business. He overdosed on drugs and became a spider demon because he was wrapped in his family's "web of lies".
Hope this helps
not everyone, spesificly Charlie and the native species of hell are called "hellborn" and are native to hell
Ok I need to know where this information is coming from because I am so confused. Is this information coming from one of Vivians interviews? I've heard she gives out way too much backstory of characters in interviews.
@@briannawilliams8916yeah. From interview, and socials mainly. (But not all people in hell were humans, just sinners. Not hellborns like imps etc.)
@@--------04 ok thank you for clearing that I don't like the fact we don't get this information in the show. I don't think fans should have to go digging for backstory info. Thanks again
Eh Angels case is moreso abiut how he comes from mafia family, thats why all his family in hell(and his twin sister in heaven, should we get intriduced to them) are all spiders. 'Winners' or heaven sent human souls, also get a new form
7:06 when he calls the show a fever dream, someone finally understands me!
Isn’t it tho 😂
@@Welchy"And it's all thanks to a very special someone!"
The way he went from hating Sir Pentious to full on loving him is so hilarious AJFKLAJF
Fun fact Joel Perez the VA for Valentino said he felt unclean after voicing episode 4, cause he had to go to such a dark level to play the character.
"Who listens to radio"
Me: my mom
"If you listen to radio you're definitely born before the 1960s"
Lol, she born December 13 1959. Two week before 1960 😂
My apologies to your momma 😂
yeah, these days it's moreso podcasts
I would still listen to radio if they actually played anything worth listening to
Fun fact. Stephanie who voices Vaggie also voices Mirabell from Encanto!
You can really hear it when she sings
@@RhetoricalThrill definitely and it sounds so nice. I absolutely love the contrast between Mirabell and Vaggie's characters
She's also Rosa from Brooklyn 99
A disney princess telling another princess NOT to sing is rather quite ironic...
@@thebeardedbrony9586mirabelle isn't actually a Disney princess though (I could be wrong but that's what I got
Just to let you know. The Hazbin Hotel pilot and all Helluva Boss episodes on Vivziepop's TH-cam channel can be reacted to with no cuts or editing on your channel. Vivziepop (Vivienne Medrano) loves reaction channels covering her content and she does not copyright strike. However, all episodes of the official first season of Hazbin Hotel only on Prime are a different story as they are not solely owned by Vivziepop alone.
The songs in ep 1, even if recorded from Viv’s channel are getting copyright claimed by Prime, so this isn’t super accurate, the pilot is safe, but the ep 1 she has on her channel is not safe to full react w/o editing.
@@FrostyFyre I never said anything about episode 1 being excluded from copyright. In fact I even said ALL EPISODES of season 1 of Hazbin Hotel on Prime would need some editing of some extent. I believe the full episode 1 isn't even on her channel anymore (just the teaser trailer). But what I said about the pilot and all the Helluva Boss episodes being safe from copyright strike still remains true.
@@Z-one1000 You're right, I was tired when I left that comment, I read hazbin hotel and not helluva boss. Also just realizing ep 1 is no longer on Viv's channel, makes sense as it was just a promotion thing, but I had not noticed until now.
Lucifer looking like a conductor for the circus is actually accurate. That's exactly what his design is based on. Because in this show, Hell is depicted as a circus, and each ring of hell (7 rings stacked together) is based on a different circus act.
So as the King, he's their Ringmaster.
Ah damn, you skipped over Adam getting his ass kicked, I look forward to people's reaction to that 😂
It actually took me a minute to realize Lucifer was voiced by Jeremy until he started singing. That man will make any character an insta-favourite for me
I love how every reactor is caught off guard during the "every street so revealing it's hard not to stare" part lmal
Due to the contract/deal with Heaven, Lucifer couldn’t help them fight back until it was proven his daughter (a hell born) was in danger by the angels hand. As soon as Adam said he was going to kill her, he stepped in immediately. And I’m sure he was just watching and waiting for the opportunity before then.
Or, it was actually Dazzle's death. Dazzle was a hellborn demon. Also it goes with the theme of "sacrifical lamb" making that part of Lucifer's song foreshadowing.
Vaggie being your fav in episode 3 makes you so based that's the First time i see someone having her their favorite
Ahaha really?? No way! Her, husk and then eventually sir pentious are the best!
@@Welchy my fav is husk but i really like Vaggie too :]
My favs are Lucifer, Alastor, and Husk! 😊
Mine are Angel Dust, Sir Pentious, Emily, Charlie, Lucifer, Velvette, Valentino (No order I suck at that)
This is genuinely such a fun show. Charlie is adorable, The Radio Demon is a menace, the other characters are great and the music is on point all bangers
Agreed! Tho Charlie is infuriating
@@WelchyPLEASE REACT TO "SPIRIT: STALLION OF THE CIMARRON"! It's a story about a strong, beautiful horse with a spirit that can never be broken. I cry every time i watch it! It's a INCREDIBLE film, and the songs are so cool! But it's not a musical and the animals can't talk. 😭💔🔥
@@elindayana8174That movie made me cry like a lil bitch when I was little.
@@HazbinCovenWitch Same here. I cried too. 😭
@@elindayana8174 That one scene with the girl horse (I forget it's name) always makes me cry.
7:15 "you're English no one cares about you" my Scottish ancestors and my Scottish blood have never felt so satisfied in one sentence.
Also my grandmother is a Scottish immigrant (1929)
Same.
26:33
Actually that's the whole idea. Vivziepop stated that the 7 rings of hell were meant to resemble the rings of a circus, an they lords of each ring are meant to embody some circus aspect. Lucifer sets up shop as the head of the Ring of Pride (and thus all of hell) so he adopts the look of a ringmaster. Mammon (Lord of the Greed Ring) heavily leans into clown themes. Satan (yes, there's a difference between Lucifer and satan) rules Wrath, and given the description that a heated Beelzebub gave of him and the brolic nature of Wrath's inhabitants, he likely embodies the Circus muscle man. And of course Queen Bee-lzebub (Lord of Gluttony), embodies the animal performances.
I could go on. but this should give you a solid idea of what to expect without dropping spoilers.
ngl I thought Queen Bee was like the concessions they'd have at a circus 💀but what you said makes more sense lol
@@alexandral1018 🤔 Huh, you might be right actually! With all her singing about cotton candy, she probably doubles as a rep for both
34:43 The girl angel with the 4 legs and hot-pink outfit is none other than Molly, Angel Dust's twin sister! We never saw her in Hell, but apparently somehow she made it to Heaven. Vivzie has said that female spider demons have 4 legs and 4 arms, while the male spider demons have 6 arms and 2 legs, like Angel does (his third/lower set of arms is retractable.) And it seems Molly's second pair of arms is also retractable, since we can't see them here. All spider demons have a total of 8 limbs, she just split up which ones would be arms and legs according to gender. I love how her 2 fluffy "bangs/fringe" closely resembles a jumping spider's pedipalps (an extra set of short limbs that aren't legs, located in front of their front legs and near their mouth). Both Angel and Molly are based on jumping spiders, so that's an extra-adorable touch. I would also assume that since Angel has 2 toes on each foot like real spider paws have (he hates his feet for that reason,) that Molly also has 2 lil' toe beans on each foot as well.
Blink and you'll miss it, but you can see Charlie picking out the souvinir for Vaggie even before her heart-to-heart with Rosie.
It wasn't that she didn't trust Vaggie, or stopped loving her. She was just conflicted on how to express her feelings.
There was ALSO a lot of swlf doubt; "if my partner can't trust me enough to tell me something as big as this, is there something wrong with me?"
Loved discovering your channel.❤❤❤
I LOVE watching people reacting to Sir Pentious, they all start with "Oh not this guy again" and all end with "HE'S MY KING!" 😂
Not me
And the award goes to... "Fawn-Flying" for being so different! A round of applause for "TheFlyingFawn". Thank you, "TheFaunaFlying" for being so brave.
@@feelsdankman211 okay? I love him since I seen the pilot
@@TheFawnFlying much love ♥
14:50 he's died in the late 16th-early 17th century, so he speaks early modern English. Confirmed oldest overlord
I've loved this common theme for reactors who are going in blind to this show, where their dislike for Sir Pentious quickly turns into a cheer squad for him. To get accepted by the others, to get in with Cherry, to win the battle. The sheer anger-surprise at his death is 100% relatable and then the transitioning reactions to his redemption, are fucking beautiful bc we all were there rooting for him.
I still find it hard to believe sir pentious and Adam share a voice actor
As for Vees (Vox,Valentino and Velvet) They’re meant to be the season 2 main antagonists
The show in my opinion feels like an R-rated version of hotel, Transylvania but a whole lot better
Well it is lol 😂
Not Hotel Transylvania 😂😭
0:14
“I was told this was a kids animation” -famous last words
I like how you went from "i hate snake man" to "Sir Pentious my boy i love him"
this is so funny ghsghghdghagh
Yes, Lucifer does look like he'd be the conductor of a circus. Hell is divided into rings, he is literally dressed as the ringleader.
The reason theyre so good at singing is that every cast member is a broadway star
And Keith Davis is Keith David
Seeing you go from hating sir pentious to loving him is awesome lol
but he hates charlie so he’s a loser
I got 30 seconds into the video and knew it would be another great commentary
The “Woo! Gay people!” Was so validating. I need that on a sweatshirt 💖
all the more reason to watch helluva boss then.
Permadeath in Hell only happens if someone is killed with an angelic weapon, otherwise they'll regenerate (very painfully).
9:27 I FELL OFF MY BED AND THEN HIT MY HEAD ON A PLUG AT THIS MOMENT BC I WAS LAUGHING SO HARD😭
I hope you’re ok!! 🤣
@@Welchy I am lol
Just wait until Niffty inevitably kills Valentino in season 2 because he’s a bug who has been hurting one of her friends. The Niffty slander must stop lmao
Okay, but when he said, "this is the most Disney song ever" when Vaggie started singing, I almost died laughing. 😂
(Her VA is Stephanie Beatriz, who also voiced Mirabel from Encanto.)
16:20 Not you predicting what Vaggie's name actually is. 😂
Lol, it's kind of funny that you enjoyed "Hell is forever" but didn't like "It starts with sorry." Adam and Sir Pentious have the same voice actor. He's played by Alex Brightman, from Broadway.
In fact 90% of the cast are Broadway actors.
Also, Zestial speaks like a Shakespeare play bc that's when he was alive. It's mentioned multiple times how old he is.
26:36 "he looks like he could be the conductor of a circus" Well...about that...in this show and the sister show, helluva boss, the sins (leaders of the seven rings of hell) ARE circus themed, with lucifer being the ring master.
If Hazbin Hotel is a fever dream, it's the good kind of fever dream. Cuz there's a shit ton of great songs sang by broadway stars! It's Disney but in Hell :D
and two Disney stars Vaggie was Mirabel from Encanto and Husk Dr. Facilir from Princess and the Frog
Are you doing also Helluva boss? It is set in the same universe
Interesting
@@WelchyDO IT !
@@Welchy PLEASE
So glad you enjoyed this one! (Also, to answer your question, the reason they’re all such good singers is because pretty much every member of the cast are professional broadway performers, so these guys are pros!!!)
Hope you check out Helluva Boss too! It’s a very different vibe of show, but really awesome in its own way.
“Oh he’s a butterfly!”
Me:almost,almost
42:35 "Alastor's asexual?? His rizz is off the charts tho!?!??!"
"Charlie, Vagina-"
* *wheeze* *
"I love Vagina" - Welchy, 2024
Sir Pentious was the worst of us and became the best of us. Truly a wonderful madman.
I won't lie: I love Adam and Lute's thing... they are so wholesome together for antagonists.
Lol. Jeremy Jordan just commands respect for whatever character he plays and I'm here for it. xD
"Adam is low-key hot" - Welchy, 2024. You are a braver man than most of us.
Even Lucifer is saluting Sir Pentious because that is how respectable he's become. Apparently respectable enough to be in heaven too... xD
One thing I find amazing is how Emily and Sera react, Emily's reaction is one of genuine surprise and happiness while Sera's is one of just finding out that the answer was "Yes" to the question, "Am I the baddie?"
The Vees (Vox, Valentino, Velvette) actually will be the main villains next season. And I am so scared for my favourite character (Vox) becoming the villain, because of what happened to my second favourite character (Adam) this season.
So real, I think i'll die if Vox dies, like Viv better not 😭✋️
"Who even lisents to radio"
My guy your car has a radio
"This is Lucifer? He looks like he belongs in a Circus." Well about that, the Hell is themed on Circus acts with each of the Deadly Sins that rule each ring having their ring represent a circus act. Lucifer is the Ring Leader.
The pilot also clears some things up.
Worth a watch and it’s canon to the show!
Lucifer wasn't able to intervene earlier cause he made a pact with Heaven. He is NOT allowed to do anything that could interrupt an Exorcists work during Extermination Day. Except, a Angel attacks and harms a Hellborn. Charlie Is a Hellborn, therefore he rushed over as fast as he could as soon Adam smacked her towards the Hazbin Hotel Sign.
Welcome to Vivienne Medrano's fever dream of Hell and Heaven, it's a demonic disney musical.
You're gonna love it! 😂❤
Yes, Pentious ended up beign the king of the show at the very end. 😢❤🎉
42:38 I am SHOOK that you picked up on this right away! I swear, almost NO reactors catch it!
51:11 It's highly ironic that Adam "kills" Sir Pentious because they share a voice actor. Who, by the way, is also the basis for the design of Adam's actual face beneath his mask.
Here are all of the characters names; Alastor, Angel dust, Vaggie, Charlie, Sir Pentious, and Nifty (the ones in the hotel) Lute, Emily, Sera, Adam (the main people in heaven) Carmilla Carmine, Rosie, and Cherri Bomb.
The reason why velvet used #bitch is because she died in the early years of social media so she’s forever stuck in 2010 cringe… 💀
The beginning of ep 4 was everything I needed 😂😂😂 the reaction was BEAUTIFUL
I knew Welchy's Hazbin hotel reaction would be goated 😂
Seeing your reaction to and opinion of Sir Pentious, from the start to the end, was glorious 😂
0:33 “Adam and who? Who’s that imposter?” THAT GOT ME ROLLING
Soooooo..... You gonna do Helluval Boss next (Hazbin's Sister Show set in the same univers and expanding upon the world of Hell)
31:40 So what you're saying Welchy... Is that Lucifer has the *voice of an angel?* Because he IS a fallen Angel! lollll
Lilith is either from an earlier version of the bible or from Jewish folklore, I'm not sure. But the story is that she was created from the same clay or mud or earth as Adam was so they're basically equals. Either God or Adam (I'm not sure which) demanded her submission and she refused and was either cast out of the Garden or she ran away (I'm not sure which). She went on to become the mother of demons. Well that's the original story.
"I love vagina"
Not gonna lie, I keep coming back to this video because it's one of the best reactions to this show, and I just registered that you said that line. Fucking hilarious.
38:57 See? Not every angel is bad - just the exterminators. And not even all of them since Vaggie has a conscience and couldn't kill a child.
And Sera is hiding something - either some secret about the foundations of heaven or it's something to do with Em.
13:07 Bro just said he hates Sir -Pentious- Precious. 🥺(editing later)
20:00 “oh he’s a butterfly?”
*the bald moth: 👁👄👁*
20:22 Yeah - Valentino's not bipolar, he's an abusive pimp.
I found this person at random, and now I am binge watching every single video. The humor, the personality, everything is amazing.
OMG dude your reaction to Sir Pentious whole character arc was great 😂😂😂 The Rollercoaster of emotions!!!
Watching someone experience Hazbin Hotel for the first time, when they've never even really heard of it.. Is SO fun. I'll definitely be watching you react to Helluva Boss if you do that one as well. Subbed!
The way Zestial speaks reflects him being the oldest of the over lord. Valette on the other hand is the youngest.
Wow, it would appear I can't type. How the fuck did Velvette turn into that? XD
the 180 you had on sir pentious has hilarious 😭😭🤣🤣
Vaggie is actually voiced by a Disney princess. Sorta. The lady who did her voice is Mirabel from Encanto too. Lol
Love this show and Helluva Boss. Heavily looking forward to watching reactions
It’s funny you mention ‘Whatever it Takes’ being the most Disney of Disney.
Vaggie is voiced by Mirabel herself from Encanto
Lucifer and Angel Dust are my favorite characters. I love them both so much and they are constantly fighting for favorite lol.
More Than Anything is my favorite song from this show.
Jeremy Jordan is who voices Lucifer. I dunno if you’ve seen Tangled the series, but he voices a character in that show that I also adore so much.
So glad you watched the show!
👊🏼👊🏼
To answer your question in episode 6, in Episode 2, Velvet implied her model that Valentino tore apart would 'pull herself back together'
So we can assume sinners are immortal but can still feel everything. Only angelic weapons can kill a sinner permanently. Also apparently an Overlord can tear apart a sinners soul if Alastors threat in episode 6 is literal. With context from other episodes this basically could likely require repeated death and torture til insanity to tear apart a soul.
YESSS U FINALLY WATCHED IT
"Can someone kill Valentino, this is the one we're all waiting for."
Truer words have never been spoken XD
I love this guy's laugh. Normally, I'd get bored and skip a video that's over 30 minutes, but this one caught my attention for quite a long time somehow. Bravo man, your reactions are funny asf
Appreciate you th3o0s
I love your trip from hating to loving Sir Pentious 🐍 As someone who was living and breathing Hazbin Hotel before the Pilot came out, I was thriiiviiiiing on his clips
Zestial (green overlord spider guy) talks weird because he's super old
Cherry Bomb was introduced in the pilot, Sir Pentious too (hence why they and Alastor know each-other).
Not seeing the pilot you also missed Angeldust saying Alastor looked like a "strawberry pimp".
Yes, please. Watch HB next. Fair warning: Stolas (owl guy) will be kind of like Sir Pentious, in that at first everyone thinks he's that really strange guy, that's only there for comedic relief but at the end everyone LOVES him. And the music is just as great as for Hazbin Hotel. Definitely check out 'Just look my way' as well if you decide to watch Helluva Boss and like the music aspect of HH/HB.
Having said that, I did like how you were all 'Ew, snake guy' to 'Aw, best boi'. Both HH and HB are great at reversing expectations when it comes to characters.
I'm sure it's been mentioned by now, but all the VA's post pilot were replaced with broadway actors. Which is why everyone's got singing talent for miles. ;) Also, you should check out the pilot. It's on TH-cam and was posted like...6 years ago. There are some character tweaks between the pilot and series, but it still gives you a bit of background.
Welchy bringing back one of my hyperfixations😤❤️
🤣
You forgot to play one of the most hilarious lines in the show so far: "Adam, leader of the angelic horde, first man, and all-around fuckable bad boy, was slain by a filthy janitor."
🤣🤣
I stopped everything i did just to watch this!!!!!!! AAAAAHHHHHH!!!
As you should! Ahah appreciate ya
For the question about Adam & Lilith - this comes from a version of the Jewish creation story - originally Adam & Lilith were created from the dust of the Earth, but Lilith was not subservient to Adam, so she was cast out of the Garden by God and Eve was then created, this time using a rib from Adam to make sure she basically owed her creation to Adam.
If I remember correctly, susan was the original name used to identify a karen.