@@Welchy I think it’s all about perspective, no one is inherently evil or malicious. No one really tries to see the story from any other character’s perspective
I'm really impressed with your quick analysis on Isabela! if you look closer, you can see that she resembles Abuela when she was young and Mariano (the big dumb hunk) resembles Abuelo Pedro. Isabela being the "perfect golden child" and looking like Abuela has caused Abuela to project the vision of everything she couldn't have onto Isabela - the perfect gift, the perfect (Pedro lookalike) husband etc. It's really good and subtle storytelling.
@@marshmallsy 100%! I'm not Latino or Asian, and while I don't resent any of my siblings/younger cousins, as the oldest I've definitely had similar feelings to that since the younger kids do inevitably have more freedom than you did and sometimes it SUCKS.
Right? I get that we get annoyed by her at first by being mean to Mirabel, but as soon as she said the line "I never wanted to marry him! I was doing it for the family!" then a cactus pops out, she instantly became my fave character! I could relate to her the most. 🌵
I was also thinking, sadly on the toxic abuela side, is the comparison of Pepa and Isabela. Both are essentially controlled by emotions, Pepa’s are directly connected so it’s way harder for her to control and she tries hard to have “clear skies” while Isabel’s is more of controlled connection. And Abuela saw that opportunity to essentially have that “perfect daughter” through her grandchild. I’ve seen that so much in real life I was shook when I came up with the theory 😂
@@Welchy No. She acted a bitch because she thought she had to to please Abuela, to get acknowledged, because Abuela was afraid of Mirabel or anyone for that matter outshining her as a leader both in the Family and in the Community. At the end of Isabela's song, she's carefree and messy (likely an artist/painter), which Abuela disapproved of (you see Isabela looking afraid when Mirabel confronts Abuela at the end of that song.)
@@Welchy a lot of people think she’s mean and yeah she could be projecting how the rest of the family especially Abuela treat Mirabel but something I also don’t think people bring up enough is when Isabela is being rude to Mirabel she says things like “don’t get in the way” or “keep your mouth shut” and I think that’s actually a trauma response because that’s how she’s gotten through her whole life with everyone thinking she’s perfect because she’s never spoken her mind or said what she actually wanted so even though yes she said it rudely she was really trying to help Mirabel in her own way that’s worked for her and that’s sad
Can we talking about Bruno being a homie? Bruno resembles his father. He's selfless, loves his family enough to separate himself from them and 'sacrifice' himself if that means that his family would be happy. Just like his father did. He was described as Seven foot frame by Camilio (shape-shifting boy) probably because he was a kid and Bruno just seemed tall to him. Plus after years of hearing bad stories about it, it probably elevated that image to about seven foot, towering, creepy man.
I actually love The fact then in "We don't talk about Bruno" we get three very different persepectives First we have Pepa and Felix, who actually knew Bruno. Pepa seems to have retroactively colored the wedding negatively, but Felix throws in "What a joyous day, but anyway" giving a hint that it probably wasn't actually as bad as all that. Second, Dolores. She is 22 at the beginning of the Movie, which means she was 12 when Bruno left. Her verse starts out "grew to live in fear of Bruno stuttering and stumbeling" She did know Bruno, but her experience was colored by what the grownups around her said. She does describe him simpathetically and she actually knows he is still there, so she was probably able to build her own picture of him over time Third Camillo. he is the same age as Mirabelle, plus a few months, meaning his Ceremony had just comcluded when Bruno left, when Camillo was 5. This means he never _actually_ knew the man, more a distant memory of a tall shape plus the horror stories he heard about him growing up, making him into a giant boogieman. I got the ages from the official lorebook
@@saiyasha848 Also in Dolores part of the sung we see a figure that looks like Bruno in the upper right corner of the house, and she seems to turn Mirabell away from seeing the figure.
abuela subconsciously chose each of their gifts up until Mirabel she was trying to run a refugee community so they needed a healer, a way to control the weather for crops, a way to see/detect future dangers, a way to continue to build and expand the town, etc. but Mirabel chose Antonio's gift and it was for him not the Encanto.
Welchy: assumed Bruno would be the villain Bruno: is a precious soul that the entire Encanto fandom has collectively adopted because that scene with the draw-on dinner plate BROKE US
Alma always cared about her family, but when Mirabel said to her “I’ll never be good enough”, it shocked her into silence cuz she realized it was 100% true. And sadly, in her mind her family had to be the most perfect and strongest so they’d never lose their home again. The fact she even accepted her fault at all when her trauma came true is pretty amazing, since I thought she would default to confirmation bias. The fact she even went to the place where the trauma stems to tell Mirabel she is not at fault is great too. Also, seeing everyone accept their emotions, freedom, and time to rest at the end was wonderful.
Literally abuela's face when the house has just collapsed, her full-on glassy-eyed dissociation ;__; It's literally her worst fear and she knows she came very, VERY close to losing some of her family again. You can see on her face the realization of "this is all my fault" :(
I know, I cried so many times during this movie and ecah time I cried I just kind of looked at the cover like, "Are we _sure_ this isn't a Pixar movie?"
I'm genuinely surprised that your surprised. Have you seen the Lion King or Bambi, Bambi 2, the fox and the hound, the 2nd one, Oliver's adventure? Disney goes hard!
The reconciliation scene made me cry. It's great to see someone who is old, proud and made sacrifices own up to their mistakes to someone they're supposed to be respected by, to someone who they had previously blamed for the things that went wrong. I don't see older people take responsibility often, especially in family.
This. People don’t give Alma enough credit in this regard. That and in most stories, the destruction of the casita would cause them to use confirmation bias to blame Mirabel. Here we see her ability to actually look at herself more objectively, witness her fears motivated by trauma coming true, and accept her fault. This is almost unheard of, and is something older people should recognize as something they should do.
I think whats important about that scene is the one issue about generational trauma is both sides refusing to understand the other. We can easily understand the whole movie Abuela refuses to actually understand Mirabel. But the final scene isnt just Abuela apologizing but also Mirabel understanding Abuela. You cant ask for one side to understand the other you have to ask for both sides to understand eachother for reconciliation to happen
One theory I really like is that Mirabel's door disappeared because her power is the house and the front door is actually hers. I don't know if that made sense but I really like that theory
I’ve also seen a theory that since her and Abuela are the only two that actively have butterflies on their outfits (while everyone else has symbols of their powers on their outfits) and the candle has butterflies on them that when Abuela passes away Abuela’s door will become Mirabel the door because Abuela also doesn’t have powers but is the keeper of the candle
Something I thought about after watching multiple times the movie is, her doorknob has an M which could stand for Mirabel but also for Madrigal, so she's giving the front door (and gift) to the whole family.
I just saw another theory that said it was just bad luck. The magic was starting to fail because everyone had issues with Bruno (remember he left later that night). She just went for the door as the magic became too weak for a moment, and the opportunity for her to get a gift was missed. But since all the doors became blank again in the end, even if she doesn't get a gift, she might actually get her own room.
@@naolucillerandom5280 Ohhhh that's actually a really good one. I also heard that maybe it's because she wiped her hands on her dress after touching the candle. Everyone else touched the door right after but she wiped her hands and then tried to touch the door but it disappeared
As someone who has suffered trauma, I could not dissagree more suffering emencely is NEVER an excuse to be a bully and an ahole =_=. You should never project your insecurities to anyone and punnish your children (Bruno) or your grandchildren (Mirabel) for your own short commings.
@@hypnotherapy69 that’s not the point. i’ve suffered trauma too and i agree that it’s wrong to take out your hurt on the people around you but that’s not what abuela was doing. she genuinely thought she was protecting them. By the end of of the movie it’s so clear that she’s a victim too and the cycle of generational trauma is broken. the real antogonist in this movie was generational trauma
@@hypnotherapy69 no one (at least, not the OP) is excusing her behavior, they are understanding it better. I think it's something when I can see someone's story and completely imagine myself making the same mistakes given the same circumstances. I can even see the logic of it all. She acknowledged her mistakes, and given the apparent time lapse of the new house's construction, has been continuing to improve her relationship with her family.
She definitely was the antagonist though. Not the "bad guy", but she was an antagonist. Just as Joker is a protagonist in his own movie. He's a villain, sure, but he's the focal character, thus making him the protagonist
On first watch, I was disappointed in the songs. Everyone said they were catchy but I didn’t think they were……later that night I started singing one song unconsciously….then two and before I knew it I was listening to and singing them on repeat 🤣🤣
The movie is about generational trauma the movie doesn't have a villain, the villain is basically the trauma that Abuela went through at a young age that ended up effected everyone else (if that makes sense). The trauma isn't an excuse ofc the things she said/did are still bad but it is an explanation
The problem with trauma is that depending on its severity, it conditions poor behaviors, coping mechanisms, and strong fears into people. It is very hard to not have it influence your behavior in negative ways since sometimes those with trauma are unaware of the negative effects of their actions. Finding ways to work through the trauma, better process grief, etc. is a hard road. I’m glad this story at least starts the process of healing for all parties.
Thanks for putting it this way. When I watched this I enjoyed it a lot, but it also felt quite samey to me as recent Disney movies such as Moana and Frozen in being about internal conflict that tends to come to life via the setting. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing but it's just... hitting the same beats and very predictable. But I can appreciate that, in its own right, this is a beautiful, important story.
I have a weird theory that Casita's magic is directly dependant on the non-magic family member's state of mind/body. As in, the grandmother's grief and love for her children and fallen husband ignited the magic, but as she got closer to death and her bonds started deteriorating, the cracks began. Then Bruno hid in the walls and used his alter egos to patch the cracks. The cracks went unnoticed as Mirabel grew up and possibly even stopped at some points of time. Then, Mirabel's mental health became an issue for her and HER bonds started to deteriorate in addition to her grandmother. That would mean Casita would get weaker until it eventually falls apart. I also noticed on the new front door, Mirabel is front and center, maybe to indicate that she will eventually become the matriarch of the family in her grandma's place and take care of Casita?
I also expect that the gift a child gets is dependant on what the matriarch feels about the situation. The gift of foresight to predict disasters, healing/cooking for the homely image of providing, Weather tied to emotion I assume to indicate sunshine and happiness. Then the next generation began and she wanted them to shoulder the burdens and be perfection. So she created a strong person and a perfect rose. Mirabell is likely a worry about what would happen after she passed- so she passed her nonmagical 'keeper' status to another. Mirabel didnt get a door because the matriarch's door was still occupied- so there wasnt room for her yet. Mirabel even seems to have a subtle hand in this practice since she gifts a toy animal and that animal bears a striking resemblance to his animal friend/steed. But Mirabel chose her gift based on the recipient's wants and needs, not what SHE wanted them to have.
@@tracey5324 That does make a lot of sense. She was grieving her husband being murdered, so she was a) highly emotional, b) scared of not knowing the future, and c) hated seeing people being attacked and hurt. Then she wanted perfection(Isabella) and control by keeping an ear out (Dolores), followed by strength (Louisa) and convenience of having two of the same person (Camillo), then here comes Mirabel who is super close to everyone and wants them to be happy do things they love. It would make sense that by giving Antonio the leopard toy, she was reassuring him that she wanted him to do what he loves because he loves it and not solely for the family's sake. In which case, Mirabel wanted him to be free, whereas Abuela wanted efficiency and needless sacrifice.
A detail I like is that when Mirabel is singing "bring it in, bring it in" and trying to force the situation not only does Isabela not hug her, she acts like Mirabel is not even there, but when Mirabel starts singing "what else, what else" and actually encourages her sister to be her true self and they start having fun together Isabela finally hugs her
Of course I clapped along. With that said, enjoy hearing "Bruno no no no no" and "Pressure like a drip drip drip..." on repeat in your head forever now. 😘
The flashback scene of how the grandparents met and all just pulled my heart strings right off😭 and the song compares them to butterflies and there are so many butterfly symbols in this movie so whenever I rewatch this I just cry 😭 I also refuse to believe anything other than the fact that the house is actually the grandfathers spirit- it makes sense. It came up after he sacrificed himself, the house seems to like Mirabel more because it knows that she’s the secret to saving them. Even when the house is collapsing it kicks everyone out but helps her get the candle and in its last act keeps her safe (not my original theory just one I heard somewhere and choose to believe)
So, even after the grandfather died, his spirit is still in the house with his wife, children, and grandchildren. I don't know if that is sad, heartwarming, or both.
I really like your interpretation of Isabelas character, I think people tend to look past the way she’s written since they just assume she’s stuck for no reason.
The door didn't actually fail her. It just wasn't her door-- Mirabel's door was the FRONT door. And no it was NOT the house that was being mean to her. She is probably the one out of all of them who had the best relationship with Casita.
Abuela Alma reminds me way too much of my own abuela to hate her. I knew from the moment the movie started what her real deal was. generational trauma is SO COMMON for people in her time and coming from where she came from (mexico, in our case), and we lost our own Tio Bruno, my uncle José, long before I was born and the pain of that STILL impacts abuela's life, my mom's life, and my life today. I can't look at bruno without seeing José's face and it made this film that much more emotional.
Honestly, Abuela is probably my favourite character because of just how complex she is. She's such a grey character, though she's leaning more heavily to the good spectrum. She's genuinely a good person, she really does want to help her community and we can tell underneath her surface she cares for her family. But because of her trauma and loss then being given a gift, a second chance, she is so desperate not to lose it again that she ends up hurting her family. In the end, there's no more candle. The candle was born from trauma, Abuela keeping it around just shows that she hasn't completely moved on from that trauma. Then in the end, when their magic returns but there's no more candle, Abuela was finally able to move on. The gift no longer came from a traumatic memory, it now comes from the love of the family. Abuela is so complex, so well written, she ends up being such a fascinating character to analyse. Because of that, she is definitely one of my favourite characters.
You can also notice she sings in the present tense (also she admits she knew he was there) Before anyone makes some comment, she is keeping quiet about it so he won't force himself to leave.
As I've been rewatching, I get the sense that that figure on the balcony is Camilo messing around. He's been seen to change into family members at will for personal gain as well as entertainment. The very NEXT verse after Dolores' is Camilo's, so it makes more sense that it's Camilo rather than Bruno on the balcony.
This is the most entertaining reaction to Encanto I've watched so far. I like that you're giving effort on making predictions, piecing out the story and giving critique instead of just sitting there and exagerate through the entire length of the film (like the two or three reactions I've watched recently.)
Abuela suffered the most in this movie, she lost her home twice in the same night and were left alone to take care of her three children. + Isabela CARES and LOVES this family so much that she was never true to herself just to make them happy. I will never tolerate hate on these two lol it annoys that fuck outta me
YMMV on "just to make them happy". Isabela is my absolute favorite character, possibly of all time, but like (...) the sheer terror and dread on her expression when Abuela comes in after WECID? Her simultaneous shame at disappointing Abuela and regret at being unable to stand up to her with Mirabel? There's definitely a lot more going on there. She cares deeply for her family, but she's also been putting on a performance for them to such an extent that it can't just be about wanting to make them happy. Think about it: even if we assume that anger is the only emotion that can get plants other than flowers out of her (which seems unlikely given how many different plants grew from her wild emotions during the second half of WECID), that still means she's literally never allowed herself to feel that angry before that moment. She literally *never* let herself be openly angry enough to make a cactus-- and judging from how much resentment she obviously held pre-WECID, that's not because she's just not an angry person. Not only that, but given the colors she chooses to wear post-WECID I'm not sure she even likes pink, yet pre-WECID basically everything in her room is pink. She won't even try to show the slightest hint of her true self in the privacy of her own room. Then there's her body language at certain points during WECID-- the way she looks away dejectedly after her confession during the halftime section, the way she panics for a moment and glances at Mirabel after getting the colorful pollen on her for the first time-- just, man. So much insecurity beneath all of that apparent confidence and poise. Has she ever felt safe completely taking off her mask for anyone before then? Even for herself? That says something very concerning and tragic about her mindset pre-WECID, imo. Overall, I don't think she's being entirely selfless in choosing to marry Mariano. There's definitely an element of duty and sacrifice in there-- Isabela is going into this situation with her eyes wide open-- but I think she's also terrified of disappointing her family because she's seen that their love is (at least to some extent) conditional. She's afraid that if she ever shows her true self, or makes herself vulnerable, or lets them down even once, she'll be rejected by the family she loves so much. She's built her entire identity around pleasing her family-- and pleasing Abuela in particular-- and she simply doesn't have the confidence to step outside of that role even though it makes her desperately unhappy. That's why making a cactus was so important to her; it showed her, definitively, that she was capable of so much more than just being a perfect doll for Abuela (no hate on Abuela she's one of my faves, but seriously; what else can you call the way she was treating Isabela during that breakfast scene).
I've seen a lot of reactions to this movie and I think you're the one who's understood Isabella's burden the best, as well as tying it to our current age of always expecting social media "perfection" in a way I'd never considered before. Great job!
I love how different the two visualizations of the start of the miracle are. In the beginning, we see a child's understanding of the events:he "dangers" they are fleeing are represented by a slight flash of firey light; Alma and Pedro's reaction is very mild; Pedro is just shown as fading away; and Alma's reaction is a very muted sadness. As Abuela is telling the story, she is softening it because she's talking to a 5 year old, and we see a 5 year old's conception of what these emotions must have been. But then, at the end, Mirabel is old enough to understand the true extent of the suffering that Abuela actually went through. It's really beautiful.
At this point the prevailing theory is that Mirabelle is the next Candleholder. Her Abuela did not have a gift, her role is to keep the Family together. But either because she is nearing the end of her life or because she lost her way, Mirabelle was called as the next in line to lead and keep the family safe and happy. The fact that the house gets newly build in her image and with her love and caring as "foundation" emphasizes that.
Gotta love Bruno, he's so awkward and weird. But also one of the kindest characters in the movie. And he's voiced by the same guy who voiced Sid the Sloth XD
I still have a theory that she wiped off the magic residue on her gown after touching the candle. Cause Antonio didn’t and we don’t know if the others did either, but she obviously wiped her hands before touching the handle 😅😅😅
I just loved that the only villain was good ole fashioned generational trama and how refusing to deal with your own issues leads to them eventually becoming everyone's problem; trickling down into how they parent their children or treat their grandchildren. Our families can shape us and sometimes, it's not always in a positive way.
I'm so glad someone understood Isabela's character. Most people just hate her for being the typical feminine Disney princess without trying to look into her mind. She's a very well written character, with flaws like any normal human, and I love her so much. She's certainly my favourite, Antonio and Luisa being close seconds. I also think Abuela was forgiven too easily. Yeah, I got that she was traumatized, but it's not an excuse for 50 years of emotional abuse. She basically gave her whole family anxiety, and I think that "don't feed your hate and desire for vengeance, but put your abuser away from your life" would be a better message than "forgive eveything and continue to live with your abuser". In this sense, Tangled's message was better. But Encanto is awesome anyways. It's certainly my favourite Disney movie. BTW, I also think that the candle is not the source of the magic, but just a symbol of it. My headcanon is that the killing of Pedro awakened the divine wrath, wich killed the soldiers and protected Alma and her family. Miracles from God, saints, angels, or the Virgin Mary, are common legends in Latino American culture :)
There is a major and very important difference between Mother Gothel and Abuela. In Tangled, the abuser is not someone whose intentions were well-meant, someone able to recognize and admit that what they had done is wrong, who is capable of growth and change. Mother Gothel cares nothing for Rapunzel, beyond the magic in her hair. Abuela in contrast was acting out of fear; trying to protect the family she loves, including Mirabel, in the only way she knew how- _and she was WRONG-_ but she was not acting out of evil motives NO it does *NOT* _excuse_ the abuse or make it okay, but it is a very common and natural response to trauma. Probably a majority of us imperfect people would do no better in the same circumstances.. And the fact that Abuela sees, genuinely apologizes, and commits to do better by her family-- that, to me, is *_HUGE._* There is every difference in the world between continuing to live with and accept abuse from someone who has no intention of ever changing- or simply may not be able to- versus working to rebuild a relationship with someone with the maturity to accept full responsibility for the harm they have caused, and who demonstrates that they are invested in doing whatever they can to make it it right.
One thing that somehow not a lot of people acknowledge is that when Mirabel left, sure, they all look for her, but nah, when Bruno up and leaves, everyone is like, don’t talk about him, and they make a freaking song about it. Injustice I say
The grandma never wanted to do this she lost herself in her trauma she was scared to loose this miracle that saved her last time she lost her everything the first time she came from a place of hurt and violence. The good thing is that she managed to realize where she was going wrong and now is trying to do better. The song at the end is about caterpillars having to leave each other for the sake of growth bc they need to change and things change
Once you hear We Don’t Talk About Bruno your life will never be the same. It will never leave your brain. Welcome to the rest of your life. Also during the song you can see Bruno creeping around in the background it’s genius
Omg the way you said “make a movie about other places, like Brazil or Cambodia” it was so random but i felt so appreciated since I’m from cambodia and it’s not everyday i hear people talking about Cambodia thank you so much!
My favorite part is in Waiting on a Miracle when she sings that she would move the mountains, she would make new flowers grow, and she would heal what's broken, because she is the catalyst for the mountain breaking and her sister making new flowers, she heals relationships in her family and her town, and heals the magic in her house
I love Isabela in We Don't Talk About Bruno... she's saying she was promised the life of her dreams, and that her power would grow... But that's NOT because she wants to get married, she wants more freedom. It's through Mirabel helping her get her guard down and letting loose that the prophesy comes true.
if there is a "villain" of the movie, it's a metaphysical one, that being division and discord in the family. the miracle was given in love and sacrifice, and Abuela made it all about pride and perfection.
I also expected Surface Pressure to be underrated but it's doing quite well. I think I heard it's #1 in billboard. Also, yes Bruno can only be discussed in song.
The more I watch this the more it appears to me that the reason why she didn't get a door is because she's supposed to be the next matriarch and there's already the door for "Abuela" so she'll inherit Abuela's door, casita responds to her the same it does to Abuela therefore I think her gift is to be a leader and a bringer of hope
Disney could do Brazil. They did include Brazil in their package films on Latin America during World War II, "Saludos Amigos" and "The Three Cabelleros," and created a Brazilian parrot character Jose Carioca. Of course people who don't understand the historical context and that these were meant to be war propaganda films probably won't think much of them. Wouldn't it be cool though to have a full story set in Brazil? Then they'd have to use Portuguese instead of Spanish.
It's funny coz as a Filipino, I should see my culture in Raya but I actually relate more to Encanto. Well it's not surprising considering that we're also colonized by Europeans, specifically Spain.
There's actually a theory that says that Abeulo Pedro's spirit lives within Casita. So when Pedro dies he returns as Casita so he can always watch over his family
As a colombiano this movie had me crying during dos oruguitas the reconciliation and so on and so forth it is accurate and it made me miss colombia while give me a piece of it btw every colombiano on earth lost their minds when we found out Carlos Vives was singing a song we have a unhealthy Carlos Vives obsseshion to say the least
I had such a similar journey with Isabella. I hated her, as we are meant to, riiight up until that song. However, as I had pointed out to me, if you go back and rewatch it, in one of the first scenes where she grows flowers in her hair, Abuela Alma picks out the one flower that doesn't match the others and drops it to the floor. Subtle foreshadowing.
Can we talk about how Isabella could potentially end world hunger with her gift and instead was pushed to basically just be pretty and make things pretty? Like she says she can grow plants by the mile, imagine how many people a mile of strawberry fields or apple orchards or corn fields could help? And I mean, no offense to Dolores or Camillo, but like let's face it, the ability to manipulate and generate flora and super strength are more useful to the village than super hearing or shapeshifting. So, I just imagine there was even more pressure on their side of the family. Even with the sisters there is Pepa who can't control her powers and her emotions are treated like nuisance because of it, while Julieta could heal the entire village with a meal.
The candle chose her to be Abuela's successor. She has no power but eventually her gift will be La Casita itself just like Abuela. So the candle didn't neglect her; it chose her.
There’s a theory Mirabel becomes the next I guess leader of the house like Abuela is which could explain why she doesn’t get a gift, the connection is the gift. They seem to be the only two who connect with the house and are able to fully understand and speak to it. I think that’s my favorite theory so far. Oh also one of my favorite headcanons is that when Camilo was 5-6 so right before Bruno left he ran into him in the kitchen at night and it scared him so bad he fainted! It would explain why he described Bruno as 7ft when that man is clearly at most 5’5, everyone is tall as hell to little kids and why he says “when he calls your name it all fades to black” because Bruno would obviously panic and call his name. The image is just hilarious to me!
I think that her power is the same as her grandmother's power. as guardian of the house and village and its inhabitants. because eventually the grandmother is going to die, so there has to be someone to take over after. it makes sense, and it might be why the door glowed like that at the end. because her door is the door to the house.
You're definitely right about Under Pressure. I was one of the ones that didn't like it at first because the song isn't my style. But I can't help but recognize the composition and lyrical meaning. Definitely underrated
I absolutely I love the follow the butterfly. Reminds me of Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets where Ronald Weasley says. "Spiders! Spiders! Why can't it be follow the butterflies?!".
(cracks knuckles) alright time to point stuff OUT! The first time we hear Abuela sing in the opening number, she's singing to the tune of Dos Oruguitas, the song playing during her backstory. Also, Isabela's lines in We Don't Talk About Bruno are to the same tune that Mirabel sings her little solo in What Else Can I Do? And last, my favorite tidbit- during We Don't Talk About Bruno, Camilo, shapeshifted into Bruno, catches Mirabel when she falls. What's the first interaction between Mirabel and the real Bruno? hIM CATCHING HER- this movie is so good.
There is a theory about how Dolores is the villain, heck, her own voice actor did a collab for a song to make "turn it down" Think about how she just can't not tell anyone about Bruno's vision, but at the same time she hasnt said a word about him living in the walls. Also, the word Dolores literally just means "sorrow" and "pain." When the new casita emerges, everyone is on the door, smiling, but Dolores isn't. Honestly, it would be TORTURE to have her "gift". To the point where you can't sleep because your sister is twitching an eye across th3 house, it would drive a person insane to be constantly hearing every single person in the town. The theory is that she wanted Maribel to find the vision, and then tell everyone so that it could erupt into chaos, and the miracle would break, along with her powers.
Fun Fact: Stephanie Beatriz (Mirabel's voice actress) actually went into labor while recording the song "Waiting on a Miracle." She didn't tell any of the production team about it until recording was finished because she didn't want to freak anyone out.
This movie, unlike Coco, feels to me like it was actually written with a latin american audience in mind, because the topic hits home really hard for a lot of us. Its about forced displacement, fleeling from violence and how the trauma stemming from those experiences can carry over through a family's generations. There's a general rule for many latinos: if you or your family haven't been forcibly displaced by some unfortunate cirumstance (natural disasters, violence, guerrillas, shit goverment, what have you), you know someone who has. Its universal, even if many are fortunate enough to not have lived it directly. My family was one of the many that fled Mexico City after the earthquake, because they ended up with nothing and the government abandoned them. The factory where my grandpa worked collapsed, and the company just packed up and left with no regards to their workers. A friend of mine is a refugee from Venezuela who fled with her family due to gang violence stemming from the skyrocketing levels of poverty and misery and the government turning into a populist, aithoritarian, militaristic nightmare. Another friend is a DACA recipient from El Salvador who left the country because the Mara Salvatrucha murdered his father and siblings. That shit carries, and the generational trauma that ends up creating a toxic environment and borderline emotiona abuse, all in the name of keeping the stability that the family has worked so far to obtain after so much struggle is no joke. I think they could have dug deeper into that theme, but talking about forced displacement in Colombia and the rest of latin america is not exactly easy to do, and even more to maintain kid-friendly. Focusing on the NOW, on the state of the family and how it relates to their powers rather than dwelling on the cause of the displacement was a good direction to take IMO and there's other more adult films that explore the harsher aspects of that theme in more detail, so this film in particular isn't really lacking any sort of reality gut punch. The movie has its flaws, a big chunk of the (non-latin american) fandom is kind of insufferable and this trend Disney is doing of taking a culture and history and making merch and profit out of it has very problematic implications, but the fact alone that they decided to touch upon such heavy topics is commendable. Kinda wish there were more colombians involved in the writing, animation and production of the film, though.
I love how the recent few disney-pixar movies are without a very clear antagonist. Its about learning to accept yourself and about family. And i love that message for not only adults but also for kids. You dont have to be perfect, you dont have to be strong for the family when you lost something. And that family is very important. (However i must also say that not all families are perfect and some are bad for mental health of the kids. Its about the family we want and choose) and that friendship is also very important
im so so glad u reacted to this movie. it means so much to me as a latine who has quite an interesting family dynamic. the movie really dives into generational trauma stemming from the abuelas trauma which is something that is so common in latine families. besides the magical element the story is so real and i know i definitely related to it. the abuela dealt with so much trauma with having to flee her home due to violence (historically accurate for the country of colombia) immediately after having her newborn triplets, and then having to watch the love of her life, her husband, sacrifice himself for her and their family. then having to set aside all of that pain because she had to lead and entire village all on her own. she never fully or properly processed all of that pain and trauma which affected how she treated and viewed her entire family which then caused THEM trauma. it’s such a sad cycle and I’m really grateful that disney created a movie that i (and so many other latine people) could really relate to and feel represented by. awesome reaction as always! (:
I was not super interested in watching this movie at first, figured I'd end up watching it eventually anyway. Then I happened to hear some of the songs, even just bits and pieces of some and I knew I had to watch the movie 🤣
Do you know how long I've been waiting for you to get on this, Welchy??😩❤ I'm very excited. I've been obsessed with this movie ever since it came out 🥰
I love how this story ends with Mirabel realizing she had a gift all along, everyone simply misunderstood what it was. Her door was the house, and the casita was her powers (just like Alma). I am not fond of stories where the moral is “you don’t need a gift to be special!” or “her power was the strongest of all!” stories. But having the story end with her having had a gift and it being tied strongly to who she is is great. Mostly cuz the other morals feel unrealistic, whereas this felt way more earned and fits with the story’s theme more.
Welchy, you likely feel sorry for Casita because you like Mirabelle, and the house used the last of its magic and (essentially) its last breath trying to shield Mirabelle from falling debris, and keep her from getting seriously hurt or even killed.
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help, I can't get the songs out my head
When are you going to react to The Legend Of Korra?
Me too😭😭
Right? I had a headache the very next day and while trying to sleep, We Don't Talk About Bruno was playing constantly on repeat in my head ☠️
It begins
Same!!!! I can't stop singing "We don't talk about Bruno"
I loved the calling Isabela a b**ch then 5 minutes later writing an essay on her as a character
🤣🤣 nah she is but I can understand her character from a message point of view 😆
@@Welchy I did love her character, very nuanced (and a slight hint of b**ch)
@@samsbin 😂
@@samsbin yea love her character
@@Welchy I think it’s all about perspective, no one is inherently evil or malicious. No one really tries to see the story from any other character’s perspective
I'm really impressed with your quick analysis on Isabela! if you look closer, you can see that she resembles Abuela when she was young and Mariano (the big dumb hunk) resembles Abuelo Pedro. Isabela being the "perfect golden child" and looking like Abuela has caused Abuela to project the vision of everything she couldn't have onto Isabela - the perfect gift, the perfect (Pedro lookalike) husband etc. It's really good and subtle storytelling.
Okay that's so sad...
@@marshmallsy 100%! I'm not Latino or Asian, and while I don't resent any of my siblings/younger cousins, as the oldest I've definitely had similar feelings to that since the younger kids do inevitably have more freedom than you did and sometimes it SUCKS.
The portrait of Isabela as a 5-year old also has her with pigtails, just like young Alma.
Right? I get that we get annoyed by her at first by being mean to Mirabel, but as soon as she said the line "I never wanted to marry him! I was doing it for the family!" then a cactus pops out, she instantly became my fave character! I could relate to her the most. 🌵
I was also thinking, sadly on the toxic abuela side, is the comparison of Pepa and Isabela. Both are essentially controlled by emotions, Pepa’s are directly connected so it’s way harder for her to control and she tries hard to have “clear skies” while Isabel’s is more of controlled connection. And Abuela saw that opportunity to essentially have that “perfect daughter” through her grandchild. I’ve seen that so much in real life I was shook when I came up with the theory 😂
Welchy: Isabela's a btch.
Also Welchy: She actually cares, she sings good, her character's well rounded-
nah nah she is a bitch! Though I just understand her character 🤣😭
I respect that even more. Disliking a character while admitting she is still well done.
@@Welchy No. She acted a bitch because she thought she had to to please Abuela, to get acknowledged, because Abuela was afraid of Mirabel or anyone for that matter outshining her as a leader both in the Family and in the Community. At the end of Isabela's song, she's carefree and messy (likely an artist/painter), which Abuela disapproved of (you see Isabela looking afraid when Mirabel confronts Abuela at the end of that song.)
@@Welchy that's kinda mean, when she was basically being forced to marry some dude
@@Welchy a lot of people think she’s mean and yeah she could be projecting how the rest of the family especially Abuela treat Mirabel but something I also don’t think people bring up enough is when Isabela is being rude to Mirabel she says things like “don’t get in the way” or “keep your mouth shut” and I think that’s actually a trauma response because that’s how she’s gotten through her whole life with everyone thinking she’s perfect because she’s never spoken her mind or said what she actually wanted so even though yes she said it rudely she was really trying to help Mirabel in her own way that’s worked for her and that’s sad
Can we talking about Bruno being a homie? Bruno resembles his father. He's selfless, loves his family enough to separate himself from them and 'sacrifice' himself if that means that his family would be happy. Just like his father did.
He was described as Seven foot frame by Camilio (shape-shifting boy) probably because he was a kid and Bruno just seemed tall to him. Plus after years of hearing bad stories about it, it probably elevated that image to about seven foot, towering, creepy man.
I actually love The fact then in "We don't talk about Bruno" we get three very different persepectives
First we have Pepa and Felix, who actually knew Bruno. Pepa seems to have retroactively colored the wedding negatively, but Felix throws in "What a joyous day, but anyway" giving a hint that it probably wasn't actually as bad as all that.
Second, Dolores. She is 22 at the beginning of the Movie, which means she was 12 when Bruno left. Her verse starts out "grew to live in fear of Bruno stuttering and stumbeling" She did know Bruno, but her experience was colored by what the grownups around her said. She does describe him simpathetically and she actually knows he is still there, so she was probably able to build her own picture of him over time
Third Camillo. he is the same age as Mirabelle, plus a few months, meaning his Ceremony had just comcluded when Bruno left, when Camillo was 5. This means he never _actually_ knew the man, more a distant memory of a tall shape plus the horror stories he heard about him growing up, making him into a giant boogieman.
I got the ages from the official lorebook
Our beloved skrunkly
@@saiyasha848 Also in Dolores part of the sung we see a figure that looks like Bruno in the upper right corner of the house, and she seems to turn Mirabell away from seeing the figure.
Youve commented this on almost every video relating to Encanto I've seen lmao, you my sir are dedicated
@@moonweaver77 yes, yes I am😂
I’m pretty sure mirabels “gift” is to succeed abuela and be the next candle keeper since abuela doesn’t have any special gift either
Doorknob keeper maybe? I don't think there's a candle anymore
@@noremac7216 yeah it might be easier to say she’s the next matriarch of the family
The grandma can't be immortal so it's possible somebody has to protect the house and candle
abuela subconsciously chose each of their gifts up until Mirabel she was trying to run a refugee community so they needed a healer, a way to control the weather for crops, a way to see/detect future dangers, a way to continue to build and expand the town, etc. but Mirabel chose Antonio's gift and it was for him not the Encanto.
Mat-Pat made a theory about that. It's a good watch.
Delores’ gift is a curse tbh lol. I’d hate being able to hear everything
She whispered or covered her ears when she spoke through the whole movie. Must be torture to not even be able to speak normally without pain
@@loupgarou95 yea and even at the end of the movie where the house gets restored, the front door has everyone with smiles except for Delores
Must suck knowing everyone's secrets.
Sounds painful
Ikr she's probably heard every mean thing anyone has ever said about her too. Poor thing.
Welchy: assumed Bruno would be the villain
Bruno: is a precious soul that the entire Encanto fandom has collectively adopted because that scene with the draw-on dinner plate BROKE US
To be fair, he also thought Mirabel might have been the villain.
Alma always cared about her family, but when Mirabel said to her “I’ll never be good enough”, it shocked her into silence cuz she realized it was 100% true. And sadly, in her mind her family had to be the most perfect and strongest so they’d never lose their home again. The fact she even accepted her fault at all when her trauma came true is pretty amazing, since I thought she would default to confirmation bias. The fact she even went to the place where the trauma stems to tell Mirabel she is not at fault is great too.
Also, seeing everyone accept their emotions, freedom, and time to rest at the end was wonderful.
Literally abuela's face when the house has just collapsed, her full-on glassy-eyed dissociation ;__; It's literally her worst fear and she knows she came very, VERY close to losing some of her family again. You can see on her face the realization of "this is all my fault" :(
Thank you. I see way too many villainizing her without trying to understand her pov at all.
@@elieli2893 Same at dinner, Abuela's reaction to seeing the vision is one of surprise and fear, she was paralyzed by what it could mean.
The legitimate anguish on abuelas face is so heartbreaking. I never thought that Disney would ever do something so hard
I know, I cried so many times during this movie and ecah time I cried I just kind of looked at the cover like, "Are we _sure_ this isn't a Pixar movie?"
I'm genuinely surprised that your surprised. Have you seen the Lion King or Bambi, Bambi 2, the fox and the hound, the 2nd one, Oliver's adventure? Disney goes hard!
@@wolfishpotato6978 pixar worked on it
Ana's song in Frozen 2 about living with grief (and other interpretations such as depression) did it for me but yeah... that hurt
@@HollyComstock15 I bawled at "show yourself", because it hit a little too close to home about finding and accepting yourself :'D
The reconciliation scene made me cry. It's great to see someone who is old, proud and made sacrifices own up to their mistakes to someone they're supposed to be respected by, to someone who they had previously blamed for the things that went wrong. I don't see older people take responsibility often, especially in family.
This. People don’t give Alma enough credit in this regard. That and in most stories, the destruction of the casita would cause them to use confirmation bias to blame Mirabel. Here we see her ability to actually look at herself more objectively, witness her fears motivated by trauma coming true, and accept her fault. This is almost unheard of, and is something older people should recognize as something they should do.
I think whats important about that scene is the one issue about generational trauma is both sides refusing to understand the other. We can easily understand the whole movie Abuela refuses to actually understand Mirabel. But the final scene isnt just Abuela apologizing but also Mirabel understanding Abuela. You cant ask for one side to understand the other you have to ask for both sides to understand eachother for reconciliation to happen
One theory I really like is that Mirabel's door disappeared because her power is the house and the front door is actually hers. I don't know if that made sense but I really like that theory
I’ve also seen a theory that since her and Abuela are the only two that actively have butterflies on their outfits (while everyone else has symbols of their powers on their outfits) and the candle has butterflies on them that when Abuela passes away Abuela’s door will become Mirabel the door because Abuela also doesn’t have powers but is the keeper of the candle
That makes some sense tbf
Something I thought about after watching multiple times the movie is, her doorknob has an M which could stand for Mirabel but also for Madrigal, so she's giving the front door (and gift) to the whole family.
I just saw another theory that said it was just bad luck. The magic was starting to fail because everyone had issues with Bruno (remember he left later that night). She just went for the door as the magic became too weak for a moment, and the opportunity for her to get a gift was missed.
But since all the doors became blank again in the end, even if she doesn't get a gift, she might actually get her own room.
@@naolucillerandom5280 Ohhhh that's actually a really good one. I also heard that maybe it's because she wiped her hands on her dress after touching the candle. Everyone else touched the door right after but she wiped her hands and then tried to touch the door but it disappeared
i love that you recognized that abuela wasn’t the antagonist, she was a traumatized refugee 💖 you really got so many of the points
As someone who has suffered trauma, I could not dissagree more suffering emencely is NEVER an excuse to be a bully and an ahole =_=. You should never project your insecurities to anyone and punnish your children (Bruno) or your grandchildren (Mirabel) for your own short commings.
@@hypnotherapy69 that’s not the point. i’ve suffered trauma too and i agree that it’s wrong to take out your hurt on the people around you but that’s not what abuela was doing. she genuinely thought she was protecting them. By the end of of the movie it’s so clear that she’s a victim too and the cycle of generational trauma is broken. the real antogonist in this movie was generational trauma
@@hypnotherapy69 no one (at least, not the OP) is excusing her behavior, they are understanding it better. I think it's something when I can see someone's story and completely imagine myself making the same mistakes given the same circumstances. I can even see the logic of it all. She acknowledged her mistakes, and given the apparent time lapse of the new house's construction, has been continuing to improve her relationship with her family.
She definitely was the antagonist though. Not the "bad guy", but she was an antagonist. Just as Joker is a protagonist in his own movie. He's a villain, sure, but he's the focal character, thus making him the protagonist
@@_the_rizzler thanks for your input the rizzler
Welcome to the club of having the songs stuck in your head 😆 they’re so catchy
when does it end
@@Welchy I‘ll let you know, but for me it‘s been non-stop for about two weeks 😅
Can’t trust a single person that said that Encanto had weak songs lmao
On first watch, I was disappointed in the songs. Everyone said they were catchy but I didn’t think they were……later that night I started singing one song unconsciously….then two and before I knew it I was listening to and singing them on repeat 🤣🤣
7 fOoT fRaMe
The movie is about generational trauma the movie doesn't have a villain, the villain is basically the trauma that Abuela went through at a young age that ended up effected everyone else (if that makes sense). The trauma isn't an excuse ofc the things she said/did are still bad but it is an explanation
The problem with trauma is that depending on its severity, it conditions poor behaviors, coping mechanisms, and strong fears into people. It is very hard to not have it influence your behavior in negative ways since sometimes those with trauma are unaware of the negative effects of their actions.
Finding ways to work through the trauma, better process grief, etc. is a hard road. I’m glad this story at least starts the process of healing for all parties.
Thanks for putting it this way. When I watched this I enjoyed it a lot, but it also felt quite samey to me as recent Disney movies such as Moana and Frozen in being about internal conflict that tends to come to life via the setting. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing but it's just... hitting the same beats and very predictable. But I can appreciate that, in its own right, this is a beautiful, important story.
@@ma.2089 yep 100% agree
I have a weird theory that Casita's magic is directly dependant on the non-magic family member's state of mind/body. As in, the grandmother's grief and love for her children and fallen husband ignited the magic, but as she got closer to death and her bonds started deteriorating, the cracks began. Then Bruno hid in the walls and used his alter egos to patch the cracks. The cracks went unnoticed as Mirabel grew up and possibly even stopped at some points of time. Then, Mirabel's mental health became an issue for her and HER bonds started to deteriorate in addition to her grandmother. That would mean Casita would get weaker until it eventually falls apart. I also noticed on the new front door, Mirabel is front and center, maybe to indicate that she will eventually become the matriarch of the family in her grandma's place and take care of Casita?
That actually makes sense 🤔
I also expect that the gift a child gets is dependant on what the matriarch feels about the situation.
The gift of foresight to predict disasters, healing/cooking for the homely image of providing, Weather tied to emotion I assume to indicate sunshine and happiness.
Then the next generation began and she wanted them to shoulder the burdens and be perfection. So she created a strong person and a perfect rose. Mirabell is likely a worry about what would happen after she passed- so she passed her nonmagical 'keeper' status to another.
Mirabel didnt get a door because the matriarch's door was still occupied- so there wasnt room for her yet.
Mirabel even seems to have a subtle hand in this practice since she gifts a toy animal and that animal bears a striking resemblance to his animal friend/steed. But Mirabel chose her gift based on the recipient's wants and needs, not what SHE wanted them to have.
@@tracey5324 That does make a lot of sense. She was grieving her husband being murdered, so she was a) highly emotional, b) scared of not knowing the future, and c) hated seeing people being attacked and hurt. Then she wanted perfection(Isabella) and control by keeping an ear out (Dolores), followed by strength (Louisa) and convenience of having two of the same person (Camillo), then here comes Mirabel who is super close to everyone and wants them to be happy do things they love. It would make sense that by giving Antonio the leopard toy, she was reassuring him that she wanted him to do what he loves because he loves it and not solely for the family's sake. In which case, Mirabel wanted him to be free, whereas Abuela wanted efficiency and needless sacrifice.
I agree with that.
A detail I like is that when Mirabel is singing "bring it in, bring it in" and trying to force the situation not only does Isabela not hug her, she acts like Mirabel is not even there, but when Mirabel starts singing "what else, what else" and actually encourages her sister to be her true self and they start having fun together Isabela finally hugs her
Mirabels dad wasn’t in denial. He just planned to talk about it after the dinner.
Of course I clapped along.
With that said, enjoy hearing "Bruno no no no no" and "Pressure like a drip drip drip..." on repeat in your head forever now. 😘
Ayy here’s a 🍪😆
4:00 love how Welchy goes “where is this set?” just as “Colombia te quiero tanto🎵” plays in the background 😂
Yeah, I always forget that not everyone gets 100% what they're saying because the movie is partially in Spanish and not everyone speaks Spanish 😂😂
When the second set of kids join during the first song, look at the wall behind them.
Loved your reaction.
The songs are written by Lin-Manuel Miranda, the guy who wrote Hamilton and i also cant get them out of my head
Ayy thanks Akira!
@@Welchy he also worked on Moana’s songs!
“Lee do you Yield?”
@@charliefarmer4365 "YOU SHOT HIM IN THE SIDE, YES HE YIELDS!!" 😂
The flashback scene of how the grandparents met and all just pulled my heart strings right off😭 and the song compares them to butterflies and there are so many butterfly symbols in this movie so whenever I rewatch this I just cry 😭 I also refuse to believe anything other than the fact that the house is actually the grandfathers spirit- it makes sense. It came up after he sacrificed himself, the house seems to like Mirabel more because it knows that she’s the secret to saving them. Even when the house is collapsing it kicks everyone out but helps her get the candle and in its last act keeps her safe (not my original theory just one I heard somewhere and choose to believe)
Oh that theory just pulled all the heart strings I love it
So, even after the grandfather died, his spirit is still in the house with his wife, children, and grandchildren. I don't know if that is sad, heartwarming, or both.
@@patriciomejia1114 it’s both😭
@@wolfishpotato6978 oh and I also think that Mirabel is made to take over the grandmother’s role and that’s why she doesn’t have powers
Sorry but that seems so horrible. You sacrifice yourself for your family and end up being their house/servant forever
I really like your interpretation of Isabelas character, I think people tend to look past the way she’s written since they just assume she’s stuck for no reason.
People tend to disregard golden child characters since they don’t realize it’s still a form of abuse.
The door didn't actually fail her. It just wasn't her door-- Mirabel's door was the FRONT door. And no it was NOT the house that was being mean to her. She is probably the one out of all of them who had the best relationship with Casita.
0:46 it's actually been been 84 years since Disney published their first full length animated movie (Snow White). Encanto is the 60th movie 😉
Yeah I apparently can’t read 🤣
@@Welchy you aren't the only one 😅 I've watch a few other reactors and everyone of them made the same mistake... 😂
How is this comment 17 hours ago when this was uploaded 1 hour ago? 👁👄👁
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Abuela Alma reminds me way too much of my own abuela to hate her. I knew from the moment the movie started what her real deal was. generational trauma is SO COMMON for people in her time and coming from where she came from (mexico, in our case), and we lost our own Tio Bruno, my uncle José, long before I was born and the pain of that STILL impacts abuela's life, my mom's life, and my life today. I can't look at bruno without seeing José's face and it made this film that much more emotional.
Honestly, Abuela is probably my favourite character because of just how complex she is. She's such a grey character, though she's leaning more heavily to the good spectrum. She's genuinely a good person, she really does want to help her community and we can tell underneath her surface she cares for her family. But because of her trauma and loss then being given a gift, a second chance, she is so desperate not to lose it again that she ends up hurting her family. In the end, there's no more candle. The candle was born from trauma, Abuela keeping it around just shows that she hasn't completely moved on from that trauma. Then in the end, when their magic returns but there's no more candle, Abuela was finally able to move on. The gift no longer came from a traumatic memory, it now comes from the love of the family. Abuela is so complex, so well written, she ends up being such a fascinating character to analyse. Because of that, she is definitely one of my favourite characters.
If u rewatch the we don't talk about Bruno bit where Dolores sings Bruno is on the balcony behind them jamming to the song 🤣
You can also notice she sings in the present tense (also she admits she knew he was there)
Before anyone makes some comment, she is keeping quiet about it so he won't force himself to leave.
As I've been rewatching, I get the sense that that figure on the balcony is Camilo messing around. He's been seen to change into family members at will for personal gain as well as entertainment. The very NEXT verse after Dolores' is Camilo's, so it makes more sense that it's Camilo rather than Bruno on the balcony.
This is the most entertaining reaction to Encanto I've watched so far. I like that you're giving effort on making predictions, piecing out the story and giving critique instead of just sitting there and exagerate through the entire length of the film (like the two or three reactions I've watched recently.)
Aww thank you Saxon, appreciate that comment a lot
The raw reaction.
"Encanto did something unexpected..."
.... 🎶Something Sharp, something New🎶
Abuela suffered the most in this movie, she lost her home twice in the same night and were left alone to take care of her three children.
+ Isabela CARES and LOVES this family so much that she was never true to herself just to make them happy. I will never tolerate hate on these two lol it annoys that fuck outta me
YMMV on "just to make them happy". Isabela is my absolute favorite character, possibly of all time, but like (...) the sheer terror and dread on her expression when Abuela comes in after WECID? Her simultaneous shame at disappointing Abuela and regret at being unable to stand up to her with Mirabel? There's definitely a lot more going on there. She cares deeply for her family, but she's also been putting on a performance for them to such an extent that it can't just be about wanting to make them happy. Think about it: even if we assume that anger is the only emotion that can get plants other than flowers out of her (which seems unlikely given how many different plants grew from her wild emotions during the second half of WECID), that still means she's literally never allowed herself to feel that angry before that moment. She literally *never* let herself be openly angry enough to make a cactus-- and judging from how much resentment she obviously held pre-WECID, that's not because she's just not an angry person. Not only that, but given the colors she chooses to wear post-WECID I'm not sure she even likes pink, yet pre-WECID basically everything in her room is pink. She won't even try to show the slightest hint of her true self in the privacy of her own room. Then there's her body language at certain points during WECID-- the way she looks away dejectedly after her confession during the halftime section, the way she panics for a moment and glances at Mirabel after getting the colorful pollen on her for the first time-- just, man. So much insecurity beneath all of that apparent confidence and poise. Has she ever felt safe completely taking off her mask for anyone before then? Even for herself? That says something very concerning and tragic about her mindset pre-WECID, imo.
Overall, I don't think she's being entirely selfless in choosing to marry Mariano. There's definitely an element of duty and sacrifice in there-- Isabela is going into this situation with her eyes wide open-- but I think she's also terrified of disappointing her family because she's seen that their love is (at least to some extent) conditional. She's afraid that if she ever shows her true self, or makes herself vulnerable, or lets them down even once, she'll be rejected by the family she loves so much. She's built her entire identity around pleasing her family-- and pleasing Abuela in particular-- and she simply doesn't have the confidence to step outside of that role even though it makes her desperately unhappy. That's why making a cactus was so important to her; it showed her, definitively, that she was capable of so much more than just being a perfect doll for Abuela (no hate on Abuela she's one of my faves, but seriously; what else can you call the way she was treating Isabela during that breakfast scene).
@@scr9069 props to you for writing that much
the perfect of isabella is to uphold the family status and keep the grandmother happy. that’s just how it is is hispanics households
Character: Forcefully opens a door
Welchy: "And I took that personally."
I've seen a lot of reactions to this movie and I think you're the one who's understood Isabella's burden the best, as well as tying it to our current age of always expecting social media "perfection" in a way I'd never considered before. Great job!
I love how different the two visualizations of the start of the miracle are. In the beginning, we see a child's understanding of the events:he "dangers" they are fleeing are represented by a slight flash of firey light; Alma and Pedro's reaction is very mild; Pedro is just shown as fading away; and Alma's reaction is a very muted sadness. As Abuela is telling the story, she is softening it because she's talking to a 5 year old, and we see a 5 year old's conception of what these emotions must have been. But then, at the end, Mirabel is old enough to understand the true extent of the suffering that Abuela actually went through. It's really beautiful.
True and I think it's the first tile Disney shows so much pain
At this point the prevailing theory is that Mirabelle is the next Candleholder. Her Abuela did not have a gift, her role is to keep the Family together. But either because she is nearing the end of her life or because she lost her way, Mirabelle was called as the next in line to lead and keep the family safe and happy. The fact that the house gets newly build in her image and with her love and caring as "foundation" emphasizes that.
Gotta love Bruno, he's so awkward and weird. But also one of the kindest characters in the movie. And he's voiced by the same guy who voiced Sid the Sloth XD
Don’t Forget Luigi
Welchy being scared is amazing
just hate how I’m such a wimp when it comes to that 😂😭
@@Welchy I love it makes u way more entertaining than most
She didn't need a gift because she was already born with the greatest gift of all, a massive, caring, selfless and loving heart.
Encanto surprised me aswell!
No real villian, just the story of a broken and hurting family.
"We Don't Talk About Bruno" is still stuck in my head 😀🥲
I feel your pain
@@Welchy I really do be catching myself signing it out loud and my friend would catch me and start singing too 🤦♀️🤣
Forever!
I still have a theory that she wiped off the magic residue on her gown after touching the candle. Cause Antonio didn’t and we don’t know if the others did either, but she obviously wiped her hands before touching the handle 😅😅😅
🤣🤣🤣I thought I was the oy one who thought of that
Love how in Dolores' song you can see Bruno jamming out in the background. It's hard to find but he's up top somewhere.
I just loved that the only villain was good ole fashioned generational trama and how refusing to deal with your own issues leads to them eventually becoming everyone's problem; trickling down into how they parent their children or treat their grandchildren. Our families can shape us and sometimes, it's not always in a positive way.
I'm so glad someone understood Isabela's character. Most people just hate her for being the typical feminine Disney princess without trying to look into her mind. She's a very well written character, with flaws like any normal human, and I love her so much. She's certainly my favourite, Antonio and Luisa being close seconds. I also think Abuela was forgiven too easily. Yeah, I got that she was traumatized, but it's not an excuse for 50 years of emotional abuse. She basically gave her whole family anxiety, and I think that "don't feed your hate and desire for vengeance, but put your abuser away from your life" would be a better message than "forgive eveything and continue to live with your abuser". In this sense, Tangled's message was better. But Encanto is awesome anyways. It's certainly my favourite Disney movie. BTW, I also think that the candle is not the source of the magic, but just a symbol of it. My headcanon is that the killing of Pedro awakened the divine wrath, wich killed the soldiers and protected Alma and her family. Miracles from God, saints, angels, or the Virgin Mary, are common legends in Latino American culture :)
There is a major and very important difference between Mother Gothel and Abuela.
In Tangled, the abuser is not someone whose intentions were well-meant, someone able to recognize and admit that what they had done is wrong, who is capable of growth and change. Mother Gothel cares nothing for Rapunzel, beyond the magic in her hair.
Abuela in contrast was acting out of fear; trying to protect the family she loves, including Mirabel, in the only way she knew how- _and she was WRONG-_ but she was not acting out of evil motives
NO it does *NOT* _excuse_ the abuse or make it okay, but it is a very common and natural response to trauma. Probably a majority of us imperfect people would do no better in the same circumstances.. And the fact that Abuela sees, genuinely apologizes, and commits to do better by her family-- that, to me, is *_HUGE._*
There is every difference in the world between continuing to live with and accept abuse from someone who has no intention of ever changing- or simply may not be able to- versus working to rebuild a relationship with someone with the maturity to accept full responsibility for the harm they have caused, and who demonstrates that they are invested in doing whatever they can to make it it right.
Yes. Thought the same about the Abuela thing.
One thing that somehow not a lot of people acknowledge is that when Mirabel left, sure, they all look for her, but nah, when Bruno up and leaves, everyone is like, don’t talk about him, and they make a freaking song about it. Injustice I say
The grandma never wanted to do this she lost herself in her trauma she was scared to loose this miracle that saved her last time she lost her everything the first time she came from a place of hurt and violence. The good thing is that she managed to realize where she was going wrong and now is trying to do better. The song at the end is about caterpillars having to leave each other for the sake of growth bc they need to change and things change
19:23 “PUT THAT KNOB IN THERE” he exclaimed at mirabel
Once you hear We Don’t Talk About Bruno your life will never be the same. It will never leave your brain. Welcome to the rest of your life. Also during the song you can see Bruno creeping around in the background it’s genius
This movie is definitely one of my favorite Disney movies. They did such an amazing job with it and the songs are so extremely good.
The whole ending from the moment abuela explains her past trauma to the end always got me tearing up like ugly tears 😭
“A very sad scene about the grandpa dying”:
Welch’s: “did he just get sliced, diced, and quartered?”
I swear i could'nt stop laughing when he said that
The house is probably polite enough to give the family privacy when they ask.
Omg the way you said “make a movie about other places, like Brazil or Cambodia” it was so random but i felt so appreciated since I’m from cambodia and it’s not everyday i hear people talking about Cambodia thank you so much!
My favorite part is in Waiting on a Miracle when she sings that she would move the mountains, she would make new flowers grow, and she would heal what's broken, because she is the catalyst for the mountain breaking and her sister making new flowers, she heals relationships in her family and her town, and heals the magic in her house
I love Isabela in We Don't Talk About Bruno... she's saying she was promised the life of her dreams, and that her power would grow... But that's NOT because she wants to get married, she wants more freedom. It's through Mirabel helping her get her guard down and letting loose that the prophesy comes true.
if there is a "villain" of the movie, it's a metaphysical one, that being division and discord in the family. the miracle was given in love and sacrifice, and Abuela made it all about pride and perfection.
Welchy is genuinely so funny I think I’ve always laughed over 10 times during the commentary LOL
Ahaha thanks for putting up with me xD
This movie wasn't anything like I expected, and I was actually pleasantly surprised
18:12 I love how it looks like Mirabel's ackowleding Welchy's screen in front of her as she walks by it
I also expected Surface Pressure to be underrated but it's doing quite well. I think I heard it's #1 in billboard. Also, yes Bruno can only be discussed in song.
The more I watch this the more it appears to me that the reason why she didn't get a door is because she's supposed to be the next matriarch and there's already the door for "Abuela" so she'll inherit Abuela's door, casita responds to her the same it does to Abuela therefore I think her gift is to be a leader and a bringer of hope
Disney could do Brazil. They did include Brazil in their package films on Latin America during World War II, "Saludos Amigos" and "The Three Cabelleros," and created a Brazilian parrot character Jose Carioca. Of course people who don't understand the historical context and that these were meant to be war propaganda films probably won't think much of them.
Wouldn't it be cool though to have a full story set in Brazil? Then they'd have to use Portuguese instead of Spanish.
It's funny coz as a Filipino, I should see my culture in Raya but I actually relate more to Encanto. Well it's not surprising considering that we're also colonized by Europeans, specifically Spain.
same, i haven't seen raya tho
There's actually a theory that says that Abeulo Pedro's spirit lives within Casita. So when Pedro dies he returns as Casita so he can always watch over his family
As a colombiano this movie had me crying during dos oruguitas the reconciliation and so on and so forth it is accurate and it made me miss colombia while give me a piece of it btw every colombiano on earth lost their minds when we found out Carlos Vives was singing a song we have a unhealthy Carlos Vives obsseshion to say the least
I had such a similar journey with Isabella. I hated her, as we are meant to, riiight up until that song. However, as I had pointed out to me, if you go back and rewatch it, in one of the first scenes where she grows flowers in her hair, Abuela Alma picks out the one flower that doesn't match the others and drops it to the floor. Subtle foreshadowing.
Can we talk about how Isabella could potentially end world hunger with her gift and instead was pushed to basically just be pretty and make things pretty? Like she says she can grow plants by the mile, imagine how many people a mile of strawberry fields or apple orchards or corn fields could help? And I mean, no offense to Dolores or Camillo, but like let's face it, the ability to manipulate and generate flora and super strength are more useful to the village than super hearing or shapeshifting. So, I just imagine there was even more pressure on their side of the family. Even with the sisters there is Pepa who can't control her powers and her emotions are treated like nuisance because of it, while Julieta could heal the entire village with a meal.
The candle chose her to be Abuela's successor. She has no power but eventually her gift will be La Casita itself just like Abuela. So the candle didn't neglect her; it chose her.
It could've said so !!!😁😁😁
@@dezrightreviews5163 They did. Her "door" is the front door to the whole Casita!
There’s a theory Mirabel becomes the next I guess leader of the house like Abuela is which could explain why she doesn’t get a gift, the connection is the gift. They seem to be the only two who connect with the house and are able to fully understand and speak to it. I think that’s my favorite theory so far.
Oh also one of my favorite headcanons is that when Camilo was 5-6 so right before Bruno left he ran into him in the kitchen at night and it scared him so bad he fainted! It would explain why he described Bruno as 7ft when that man is clearly at most 5’5, everyone is tall as hell to little kids and why he says “when he calls your name it all fades to black” because Bruno would obviously panic and call his name. The image is just hilarious to me!
Your reaction to Bruno's plate was my reaction. Wrecks me every time.
I think that her power is the same as her grandmother's power. as guardian of the house and village and its inhabitants. because eventually the grandmother is going to die, so there has to be someone to take over after. it makes sense, and it might be why the door glowed like that at the end. because her door is the door to the house.
I like that you enjoyed the movie, Hispanic cultures are very beautiful and im glad movies like this can help show it off around the world 😅
YESSSSSS MORE PEOPLE REACTING TO MY FAVOURITE - Bruno, my love 😩💖💖💖
You're definitely right about Under Pressure. I was one of the ones that didn't like it at first because the song isn't my style. But I can't help but recognize the composition and lyrical meaning. Definitely underrated
I absolutely I love the follow the butterfly. Reminds me of Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets where Ronald Weasley says. "Spiders! Spiders! Why can't it be follow the butterflies?!".
I can’t help but notice that Abuelo kinda looks like a Hispanic slightly aged Flyn Rider
Finally you watched this masterpiece😍 I’ve fallen in love and have been obsessed with this movie since it came out.
This movie was SO GOOD. The way the grandma treated her broke my heart.
time to watch this for the 17th time with my favourite reactor
*the soundtrack literally screaming COLOOOOOMBIAAAAA!!!*
Welchy: "so where is this movie set in? "
(cracks knuckles) alright time to point stuff OUT! The first time we hear Abuela sing in the opening number, she's singing to the tune of Dos Oruguitas, the song playing during her backstory. Also, Isabela's lines in We Don't Talk About Bruno are to the same tune that Mirabel sings her little solo in What Else Can I Do? And last, my favorite tidbit- during We Don't Talk About Bruno, Camilo, shapeshifted into Bruno, catches Mirabel when she falls. What's the first interaction between Mirabel and the real Bruno? hIM CATCHING HER- this movie is so good.
This movie knocked Zootopia off of the #1 slot of my favorite modern Disney films
There is a theory about how Dolores is the villain, heck, her own voice actor did a collab for a song to make "turn it down"
Think about how she just can't not tell anyone about Bruno's vision, but at the same time she hasnt said a word about him living in the walls.
Also, the word Dolores literally just means "sorrow" and "pain."
When the new casita emerges, everyone is on the door, smiling, but Dolores isn't.
Honestly, it would be TORTURE to have her "gift". To the point where you can't sleep because your sister is twitching an eye across th3 house, it would drive a person insane to be constantly hearing every single person in the town.
The theory is that she wanted Maribel to find the vision, and then tell everyone so that it could erupt into chaos, and the miracle would break, along with her powers.
Fun Fact: Stephanie Beatriz (Mirabel's voice actress) actually went into labor while recording the song "Waiting on a Miracle." She didn't tell any of the production team about it until recording was finished because she didn't want to freak anyone out.
This movie, unlike Coco, feels to me like it was actually written with a latin american audience in mind, because the topic hits home really hard for a lot of us. Its about forced displacement, fleeling from violence and how the trauma stemming from those experiences can carry over through a family's generations. There's a general rule for many latinos: if you or your family haven't been forcibly displaced by some unfortunate cirumstance (natural disasters, violence, guerrillas, shit goverment, what have you), you know someone who has. Its universal, even if many are fortunate enough to not have lived it directly.
My family was one of the many that fled Mexico City after the earthquake, because they ended up with nothing and the government abandoned them. The factory where my grandpa worked collapsed, and the company just packed up and left with no regards to their workers. A friend of mine is a refugee from Venezuela who fled with her family due to gang violence stemming from the skyrocketing levels of poverty and misery and the government turning into a populist, aithoritarian, militaristic nightmare. Another friend is a DACA recipient from El Salvador who left the country because the Mara Salvatrucha murdered his father and siblings.
That shit carries, and the generational trauma that ends up creating a toxic environment and borderline emotiona abuse, all in the name of keeping the stability that the family has worked so far to obtain after so much struggle is no joke. I think they could have dug deeper into that theme, but talking about forced displacement in Colombia and the rest of latin america is not exactly easy to do, and even more to maintain kid-friendly. Focusing on the NOW, on the state of the family and how it relates to their powers rather than dwelling on the cause of the displacement was a good direction to take IMO and there's other more adult films that explore the harsher aspects of that theme in more detail, so this film in particular isn't really lacking any sort of reality gut punch.
The movie has its flaws, a big chunk of the (non-latin american) fandom is kind of insufferable and this trend Disney is doing of taking a culture and history and making merch and profit out of it has very problematic implications, but the fact alone that they decided to touch upon such heavy topics is commendable. Kinda wish there were more colombians involved in the writing, animation and production of the film, though.
I’ve been waiting to see this reaction! This movie was incredible and I was so excited to see you enjoy it too!!
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Well even if the house knows all about your secrets and dirty laundry, it's not gonna tell anyone is it?
This movie is so good. You're reactions are perfectly in tune with the general 😂
I love how the recent few disney-pixar movies are without a very clear antagonist. Its about learning to accept yourself and about family. And i love that message for not only adults but also for kids. You dont have to be perfect, you dont have to be strong for the family when you lost something. And that family is very important. (However i must also say that not all families are perfect and some are bad for mental health of the kids. Its about the family we want and choose) and that friendship is also very important
the genius behind this soundtrack is Lin Manuel Miranda, he also wrote a few of the songs in Moana!
I loved this so much, so real, so representative of real life.
im so so glad u reacted to this movie. it means so much to me as a latine who has quite an interesting family dynamic. the movie really dives into generational trauma stemming from the abuelas trauma which is something that is so common in latine families. besides the magical element the story is so real and i know i definitely related to it. the abuela dealt with so much trauma with having to flee her home due to violence (historically accurate for the country of colombia) immediately after having her newborn triplets, and then having to watch the love of her life, her husband, sacrifice himself for her and their family. then having to set aside all of that pain because she had to lead and entire village all on her own. she never fully or properly processed all of that pain and trauma which affected how she treated and viewed her entire family which then caused THEM trauma. it’s such a sad cycle and I’m really grateful that disney created a movie that i (and so many other latine people) could really relate to and feel represented by. awesome reaction as always! (:
Please, this Scottish guy has the best reactions ever. Reactions turns into comedy😭
I was not super interested in watching this movie at first, figured I'd end up watching it eventually anyway. Then I happened to hear some of the songs, even just bits and pieces of some and I knew I had to watch the movie 🤣
"dandruff, just say it's dandruff" 😂 i LOL'd
this is by far my favorite reaction to the movie.
Do you know how long I've been waiting for you to get on this, Welchy??😩❤
I'm very excited. I've been obsessed with this movie ever since it came out 🥰
I love how this story ends with Mirabel realizing she had a gift all along, everyone simply misunderstood what it was. Her door was the house, and the casita was her powers (just like Alma). I am not fond of stories where the moral is “you don’t need a gift to be special!” or “her power was the strongest of all!” stories. But having the story end with her having had a gift and it being tied strongly to who she is is great. Mostly cuz the other morals feel unrealistic, whereas this felt way more earned and fits with the story’s theme more.
Welchy, you likely feel sorry for Casita because you like Mirabelle, and the house used the last of its magic and (essentially) its last breath trying to shield Mirabelle from falling debris, and keep her from getting seriously hurt or even killed.
Only just realising that Abuela wore the black shawl until the end when they got the new miracle.