That's a genuinely world-class (quick but useful) review - and no I'm not kidding - of two cars that we're looking at. Really appreciate your view (and Angel's and your car-loving friends) on everything you drive, and this was fun and informative. My wife and I arrived back in NZ 10 years ago and bought a 2005 Fit 1.5 V-Tec with 56K kms as a run-around. We still have it and drive it every single day. 145,000kms now and the only thing we had to fix was one seized brake caliper 3 years ago. Quiet, smooth, fun, the magic seats, and we love it. The new one - especially the RS - is tempting as a town car that's for sure. Thanks guys.
Thanks man yeah I do my best to keep them informative, entertaining and reasonably brief. Glad you enjoyed it and would recommend either as a replacement for sure!
Great job with your videos as always! Nissan do something similar to the newer Honda Jazz (where the petrol engine is just a generator). Would be keen to see your take on the Nismo Note S E Power if you ever got hold of one for the channel. Cheers!
Yeah it is the Nismo Note S Epower. Cool looking car & the S version is higher spec than the rest & from what i've seen is that they are quicker than the latest Jazz. Driven the Latest Jazz Rs & it is an awesome fun car, only thing that i don't like about it is the front, reminds me of that character from Futurama.
Awesome comparison between the two generations! I have driven both just recently and I have to completely agree! The new RS is a genuinely fun car to drive for car people despite it's main target market! Also that learner BMW driver too, just wow haha...
Was very set in my bigger and more powerful petrol (or diesel) engine mind - preferably with a manual gearbox attached! You would hurtle you down the road at great speeds - listening to the roar of all those angry horses lol I'm a hybrid convert these days. Have a 2023 Haval Jolion hybrid. All that electric motor torque at a moments notice, then the petrol engine will kick in without you realising.... the acceleration from a standstill is brilliant! No turbo or supercharger - no lag 😅 still puts a smile on my face! the fuel economy - 5.3l per 100km - for an SUV... just off 1000kms distance per tank around town - due to the electric motor being used more often than the petrol. 😁 While I'm still a petrol head at heart...I'm not sure I'd ever go back to a standard engine setup.
_Honda Power 💪🏼 _*_AND_*_ economy! … really impressive, considering a VT Commodore 5ltr V8 auto had a claimed 0-100kph of around 7.8-7.9 seconds and triple the economy 😁_ … _-yeh I know not the same class but how times have changed-_
Happy owner of the new RS. Bought it when Labour were still doing clean car rebate so got a 3.9k refund on a 37k car ;) Came quite close to buying the pre-facelift but didnt liked the handling and the two spoke steering wheel back then. The RS solved everything! First time test drove the new RS I blasted onto the harbour bridge from the Onewa Road onramp and the differences in handling were really noticeable, and it was a really fun car to chuck into the corners. Just wished they didnt cut out the heated side mirrors or the wireless phone charging of the Luxe models.
Apparently, you are the only person in the whole English-speaking CarTube, who thought of comparing two generations of the car. It's good to you, but mostly it shows how bad is the state of car channels bloated with useless information
Actually testdrove the 2023 Jazz e:HEV, pre-facelift. Drove really naturally coming out of an accord, got excellent fuel economy (3.9L/100K), also pretty quiet. But the merge onto the highway... coming out a similar power Accord you had.. there wasn't enough there. This new model has like 12HP more I think, but still. And then there's the price... 36K euro for the basespec. 40K for a 2023 Civic basespec. Just...Dutch prices man. I can see why Honda struggles here.
That’s nuts man they’re $37,000nzd here. Makes them pretty good value for money. Definitely a little more than the competition but it’s also a nicer car
Great review as always, thanks. Glad to see they improved the looks from the egg/bug look that was massively outdated & rather ugly. This 2024 model is much nicer.
Think they are very similar, the note has an almost identical 0-100. The first gen e12 epower notes are probably the best value for money cars you can buy at the moment.
Great review thanks KCL, I'm interested in a Honda hybrid, so enjoyed the comparison. With the older Fit Hybrid, is there any information on how the batteries last, and any way to check the State of Health?
Glad you enjoyed it! And no I don't believe there is any way to do a SOH test, but Hondas aren't known for premature battery wear. By the time they might need replacing the car will be basically worthless anyway
Hey man, does the current Jazz Mugen RS (e:HEV) in New Zealand come with any suspension/performance improvement over the normal RS, or is it just body kits?
@@harris4778 just body kit man, personally I’d just get the RS, because when you come to trade the mugen one in it won’t be worth any more particularly so you’ll just throw away the extra you spent on the kit and wheels
Can you choose a different mode to cut out the fake shifting on the new Jazz? I can't imagine why the ice 'generator' would be changing revs like that when you were doing if the electric motor is direct drive - perhaps you could enlighten me?
@KiwiCarLife thanks. I'll have to give one a try. To me, the idea that the ice goes to optimum revs to put maxim power into the battery while the electric motor puts optimum power on the road, seems more logical than the revs changing.
Hi mate, nice review. Honda NZ announced Civic 11 coming soon in e:hev trim. I am hesitant about choosing Civic 11 ehev or Accord 10 hybrid (there are a few available in NZ). Any advice from you ? Cheers
A Honda Fit hybrid with a 7 speed dual-clutch? That's pretty crazy. As an american watching euro car reviews always feels like these brands are cheating on me
That's a genuinely world-class (quick but useful) review - and no I'm not kidding - of two cars that we're looking at. Really appreciate your view (and Angel's and your car-loving friends) on everything you drive, and this was fun and informative. My wife and I arrived back in NZ 10 years ago and bought a 2005 Fit 1.5 V-Tec with 56K kms as a run-around. We still have it and drive it every single day. 145,000kms now and the only thing we had to fix was one seized brake caliper 3 years ago. Quiet, smooth, fun, the magic seats, and we love it. The new one - especially the RS - is tempting as a town car that's for sure. Thanks guys.
Thanks man yeah I do my best to keep them informative, entertaining and reasonably brief. Glad you enjoyed it and would recommend either as a replacement for sure!
A happy owner of the new RS, you won't be disappointed
Nice review and comparison, two pretty nice cars, I like that fuel economy figure!
The new model has some clever tech and really zips along!
Thanks man! And yep it’s soooo efficient
Always been a fan of the Jazz since it came out.
They’re great cars
I really wish we had these in Australia...
You can import one 😊
You guys get the civic and accord hybrid though!
@@KiwiCarLife Yeah, at Audi prices tho
Yeah me too. Honda Aus have lost the plot by dropping the jazz from their lineup
Great job with your videos as always! Nissan do something similar to the newer Honda Jazz (where the petrol engine is just a generator). Would be keen to see your take on the Nismo Note S E Power if you ever got hold of one for the channel. Cheers!
Yeah it is the Nismo Note S Epower. Cool looking car & the S version is higher spec than the rest & from what i've seen is that they are quicker than the latest Jazz. Driven the Latest Jazz Rs & it is an awesome fun car, only thing that i don't like about it is the front, reminds me of that character from Futurama.
Yeah the nismo note and jazz have similar drivetrains. Would be an interesting comparison for sure!
@@KiwiCarLife, if you can set up a comparison, I'd be very keen to see that.
I am looking forward to picking up mine at the end of the year.
@@pugflyer end of the year? There’s stock available now surely
Yes, but I can't get the money to pay for it until then.
@@pugflyer ohhh yes makes sense well when the time is right I would recommend!
Awesome comparison between the two generations! I have driven both just recently and I have to completely agree! The new RS is a genuinely fun car to drive for car people despite it's main target market!
Also that learner BMW driver too, just wow haha...
Yeah honestly I had heaps of fun driving it! Honda still knows how to make a great drivers car.
And yeah they’ve got some “learning” to do!
Aww man they ditched the 6MT? I loved the CRZ as a daily
Yeah no more manual sadly. The manual CR-Z and Fit RS they had back in 2011 were cool
Great little cars the newest one seems to borrow the technology and concept from a Nismo note e-power. And that is a good thing.
Given Honda launched this style hybrid powertrain in the 2013 accord hybrid, and Nissan released it in 2016 I think Honda came first!
@@KiwiCarLife aah ok i didnt know that. Interesting. My first experience with it is from the Note.
Was very set in my bigger and more powerful petrol (or diesel) engine mind - preferably with a manual gearbox attached! You would hurtle you down the road at great speeds - listening to the roar of all those angry horses lol I'm a hybrid convert these days. Have a 2023 Haval Jolion hybrid. All that electric motor torque at a moments notice, then the petrol engine will kick in without you realising.... the acceleration from a standstill is brilliant! No turbo or supercharger - no lag 😅 still puts a smile on my face! the fuel economy - 5.3l per 100km - for an SUV... just off 1000kms distance per tank around town - due to the electric motor being used more often than the petrol. 😁 While I'm still a petrol head at heart...I'm not sure I'd ever go back to a standard engine setup.
@@JamesTheobald-lh6wd fair enough!
_Honda Power 💪🏼 _*_AND_*_ economy! … really impressive, considering a VT Commodore 5ltr V8 auto had a claimed 0-100kph of around 7.8-7.9 seconds and triple the economy 😁_ … _-yeh I know not the same class but how times have changed-_
I know right!
Beautiful episode
@@ezrabennett thanks man, you’ll approve of these cars!
Happy owner of the new RS. Bought it when Labour were still doing clean car rebate so got a 3.9k refund on a 37k car ;)
Came quite close to buying the pre-facelift but didnt liked the handling and the two spoke steering wheel back then. The RS solved everything! First time test drove the new RS I blasted onto the harbour bridge from the Onewa Road onramp and the differences in handling were really noticeable, and it was a really fun car to chuck into the corners.
Just wished they didnt cut out the heated side mirrors or the wireless phone charging of the Luxe models.
Very nice!
Im looking forward to your HRV 2024 review
@@hypasheep hopefully at some point
Apparently, you are the only person in the whole English-speaking CarTube, who thought of comparing two generations of the car. It's good to you, but mostly it shows how bad is the state of car channels bloated with useless information
@@CandidM glad to hear!
Actually testdrove the 2023 Jazz e:HEV, pre-facelift. Drove really naturally coming out of an accord, got excellent fuel economy (3.9L/100K), also pretty quiet.
But the merge onto the highway... coming out a similar power Accord you had.. there wasn't enough there. This new model has like 12HP more I think, but still.
And then there's the price... 36K euro for the basespec. 40K for a 2023 Civic basespec. Just...Dutch prices man. I can see why Honda struggles here.
That’s nuts man they’re $37,000nzd here. Makes them pretty good value for money. Definitely a little more than the competition but it’s also a nicer car
Overpriced everywhere...but then again one could almost say that of all the cars except those from China.
Great review as always, thanks. Glad to see they improved the looks from the egg/bug look that was massively outdated & rather ugly. This 2024 model is much nicer.
Yeah absolutely man!
@@KiwiCarLife hehe I'm actually a girl! My petrolhead tendencies come from my grandmother. She collected vintage cars. :)
I wonder how it compares to the Nissan Note, they all look like nice city commuters
Think they are very similar, the note has an almost identical 0-100. The first gen e12 epower notes are probably the best value for money cars you can buy at the moment.
The Jazz is a much “nicer” car but the note is definitely efficient
@@KiwiCarLife Definitely but are 3x the price
Any idea how reliable the older gen is with the DCT since you work at a Honda dealership?
Looking at an imported version here in Aus. Many thanks.
They’re ok… but we have replaced a few DCT’s in my time at Honda. They’re definitely not bulletproof like Hondas of old.
Спасибо большое за контент. Мне очень понравилось!
@@budniyevgeny yes
Great review thanks KCL, I'm interested in a Honda hybrid, so enjoyed the comparison.
With the older Fit Hybrid, is there any information on how the batteries last, and any way to check the State of Health?
Glad you enjoyed it! And no I don't believe there is any way to do a SOH test, but Hondas aren't known for premature battery wear. By the time they might need replacing the car will be basically worthless anyway
Hey man, does the current Jazz Mugen RS (e:HEV) in New Zealand come with any suspension/performance improvement over the normal RS, or is it just body kits?
@@harris4778 just body kit man, personally I’d just get the RS, because when you come to trade the mugen one in it won’t be worth any more particularly so you’ll just throw away the extra you spent on the kit and wheels
Can you choose a different mode to cut out the fake shifting on the new Jazz?
I can't imagine why the ice 'generator' would be changing revs like that when you were doing if the electric motor is direct drive - perhaps you could enlighten me?
Nah it does it all the time, to avoid the constant drone of an engine spinning at 6500rpm. I like it, sounds a lot better than a CVT
@KiwiCarLife thanks. I'll have to give one a try. To me, the idea that the ice goes to optimum revs to put maxim power into the battery while the electric motor puts optimum power on the road, seems more logical than the revs changing.
@@JakobusVdL yeah in principle, but would you like to have a rattly 1.5 screaming it’s tits off while overtaking? I wouldn’t HAHA
Hi mate, nice review.
Honda NZ announced Civic 11 coming soon in e:hev trim. I am hesitant about choosing Civic 11 ehev or Accord 10 hybrid (there are a few available in NZ).
Any advice from you ?
Cheers
I’d go for the Civic, NZ new and brand new model rather than a few years old. It should be out early 2025
Civic is not the size of the old accord so might as well go with that. Cheaper too.
A Honda Fit hybrid with a 7 speed dual-clutch? That's pretty crazy. As an american watching euro car reviews always feels like these brands are cheating on me
Haha yep very weird gearbox for a Honda! They’ve already ditched it haha
Which one does 0-100 faster?
Nissan note e13 or jazz ecvt?
I have no idea tbh, I would assume the Jazz as it has more power
Who knew the older fit was as fast as that ! 3-4 secs faster than a current swift, a mitsi asx or some ford Rangers. Lol
You are talking Rs here so for a fair comparison it goes up against the Swift Sport which is about the same at around 8.5sec 0-100kph
Yeah man it’s super quick for what it is!
Both Cars not available in Australia....Honda Australia is useless.
They always claim Australia has small market...Aud55k for Civic eHEV
Yeah I think they had a choice to have either the new HRV or Jazz, they took the HRV. We took the Jazz
That fake gear-change behaviour of the new car is so cringey.
It is a little but at least it sounds half decent unlike the Civic Type R.
Yeah and I’d much rather it did fake shifts than just smash limiter all day