I don't feel much like a game called War Thunder after these heartbreaking stories of the end of civilizations, because of merciless war. I do subscribe, click like and even watch the commercials though. Superb content, as always.
@@astroboirap The man have to make a living, if he is to continue his entertainment for us. The War Thunder ad is from him. The rest of the ads you can get rid of with Adblock Plus, that's your job.
Bro you made this whole video and yet you miss the point of Jesus and Christianity ... if you repent and give yourself to Christ you are saved we don't care about anything on this earth except bringing more people to Christ and repenting daily.
@@guymundane3807 I’m not saying it’s not truth , I’m saying that recurring to the sacrifice argument and acknowledging to be happy because of the extermination of a group of people i, but not be at least angry for Spaniards burning people in masses and using dogs to hunt children , I mean , it’s double faced and racist
The scariest one to me by far is the fall of Baghdad, you just read the accounts of what happened and its like reading something out of the old testament They destroyed Everything.
The caliph refused to surrender. They Muslims did the same to the non-Muslims of the areas that they raided and who did not immediately submit to the Islamists. Karma?
@@AxmedGurey_Al-Ghazi I know a lot about both Islam and history. Muslim armies were brutal to those villages, towns and cities that did not immediately surrender to the Islamist's demands! There is absolutely nothing wonderful or even peaceful about Islam or its for-profit (20% of the booty) so-called prophet. who was a warlord!
Sometimes I am fascinated by humanity. Able to create both arts and crafts with hands, and at the same time create death and destruction with the same hands like no other.
Maybe they should've kept their glorious polytheistic religions instead of embracing boring ugly monotheistic ones while shoving it down the throats of others.
Eastern romans: "Could you please try to not invade our territory...FOR FIVE MINUTES!?" Persians, ottomans, mongols, huns, barbarians, etc: "What an awesome capital you have, guys!" 😎
You forgot the Arabs. They're the ones who punished the romans the most to the point roman apocalyptic litriture increased in this period because they were so shocked that after ruling Africa and the Mid East with an iron fist for so long, they just got mopped out of the map and were cornered inside their city in a very small period of time. Arabs did all the hard work.The Turks wrote only the last chapter of this empire
@@tjo6252 wtf are u talking about the arab-byzantine wars happened in 8th and 9th century and turks came during the 15th century....do you realise how great of the lifespan that is?????..jesus go read a history book
Senators: "CAESAR, THE BARBARIANS HAVE SACKED ROME!" Honorius: "OH, NO!!!... I think I ran out of bread for the birds..." Jokes Aside, I feel bad for Honorius, to be honest. He was forced to become Emperor since he was a child despite being too young and unprepared for such position. Most of the bad things he did were by fault of the poor advisers he had, who forced him to commit horrible actions like murdering Stilicho. In fact, the docudrama "Ancient Rome: The Rise and Fall of an Empire" depicts Honorius as a cute and sympathetic teenager who doesn't know how manipulated he is. The scene in which he cries after knowing about the sacking of Rome is pretty sad, actually.
The murder of stilicho was probably one of the biggest mistakes on the part of the Romans in the late empire yeah. I forget the exact names but ik advisors of both honorius and the eastern emperor really had it out for him no matter how many times he saved their skins. Really disheartening once you start learning about late Rome on the decline and see that a lot of it was due to incompetent and greedy men fighting amongst themselves one after another. Although that narrative could be so different from early imperial and late republican history as a result of bias or romanticization of the 'good ole days', but i like to think that constant civil wars is a pretty good marker for decline and instability lol.
After reading about Emperor Valentinian I: I really think that Rome was having an emerging problem with "Princess Syndrome" in the general public. Which explains why they were vulnerable to the Visigoth invasions. Since nobody wanted to do anything responsible. The whole talk of "Bread and Circus."
its widely noted Italians were not interested to serve in the army, had other money making options; forcing the Army to hire goths, huns, sarmatians, etc.
It had also grown so fucking big that managing a centralised power became impossible. Didn't help they developed a practice of conquering and erasing the cultures of those they defeated. Things like that leave a mark on the surrounding peoples.
Yeah and the enemy soldiers were literally going around killing everyone they found including kids. Unthinkable to us now but this wasn’t even that unusual back then
@Armored_Ariete But that had nothing to do with their religious practices. They oppressed their subjects by taxing them, most of them however would not turn against Tenochtitlan until the death of Motecuhzoma and dismantling of the Triple Alliance...
@Armored_Ariete european Christian is still burning people alive on the steak during the fall of the Aztec and using after the Aztec fell force the native populations into slave labour
@Armored_ArieteFalse, the Tlaxcalans, who were the most important Spanish ally, practiced sacrifices, And they were forced to ally themselves with Cortés so that the Spaniards and Totonacs would stop killing and burning in their villages and cities.
@Armored_ArieteFalse, the Tlaxcalans, who were the most important Spanish ally, practiced sacrifices, And they were forced to ally themselves with Cortés so that the Spaniards and Totonacs would stop killing and burning in their villages and cities. They even tried to make a peace treaty with the Aztecs and an alliance to expel the Spanish.
I am surprised that the account of the final conquering of Constantinople was written by Italians. By this time the Empire was a shell, and Constantinople itself was severely depopulated. The idea that the Emperor had 90,000 soldiers is hugely unlikely, as it is estimated that the city no longer contained even 100,000 people in total. This wasn't a clash of mighty empires, this was a final beatdown of a broken rival, much like the Third Punic War. Sultan Mehmet simply sped the death of the Eastern Romans by a century.
The population of Constantinople was about 40000. It was a shell of itself the troops inside with the mercenaries was about 7000. The Turks won a bankrupt and ruined city
Cavalry were the tanks of their day. If you aren't used to fighting them its pretty hard to hold the line against a 1000 lb horse and fully armed rider. Four alone worked since the Americas hadn't had any time to adapt to them yet.
The market was big and flat, definitely the worst place to fight a horseman if you're unprepared. The natives DID quickly learn to counter horses and such a charge was extremely risky even on favourable terrain. Some really brave spaniards.
I've read the book by Roger Crowley perhaps 4 or 5 times. "1453" is a masterful account, that I think gave inspiration for the mediocre Turkish Netflix production.
I think it was Scipio Africanus that watched the destruction of Carthage, their empire, and the defeat of their greatest general, Hannibal, with a sense of foreboding, imagining that once something similar might happen to Rome. I think they even salted the fields, to prevent another rise of the empire, ever again.
That salt part is a lie. Salting was done in respect, and wasnt a massive amount, maybe a handful at most. Salt was extremely expensive, and would not have been wasted to "dry the land". Especially considering most of it would be washed away by floods or by rain.
@@aidan1R Yes, you must be right about the salt and how it was not tossed around the whole agricultural area of Carthage. The modern word for "salary" is derived from 'salt', I remember from another "salt"-debate I had with someone here on TH-cam. ☺
@@aidan1Rsalt was not particularly expensive, that is also a myth. It was only expensive if one lived far away from the coast or salt mines. It is just a very useful product
@@curious_one1156 exactly! it is so funny that most of these people compare the fall of constantinople to a apocalyptic event when in reality... it was mild. the city just changed hand, nothing much changed or destroyed. the soldiers only raided royal treasure for 3 days. whic was pretty short for medieval period and the sultan himself gave safety guarantee to civilians of city. if anyting the sack of constantinople by latins was even worse so much that there a legend about Lucas Notaras saying "ı would prefer to see Turkish turban in city, rather than Latin cone."
@@lordgrunwalder1607 Yeah in all honesty I think people are so caught up trying to find the good and bad guys in history that they neglect the fact that it is never that simple. Many people absolutely adore the Roman Empire, so anyone who opposed them must be an evil murdering demon sent directly from hell. People really need to learn to control their biases when it comes to history and they may find that there is great beauty on either side of a conflict.
I find it interesting how these “nomadic horse people” destroy everything they see but their grandchildren are so in love with the conquered people and they work so hard and spend so much money to bring it all back…
@@guilhermecastro9893 nothing like that happened. He was not given khanate by Mongols as he was turkic peasant child. So he converted. 😌 not halagus own brother.
"In the year of our Lord 2078 New York fell. Carts of glizzies were overturned on Broadway. Men, women, and children alike had their Timberlands burned, none were spared."
"What's up guys, its me Sarasayswhat? This is my blog during the fall of Western civilization. As you can see, I have my Chihuahua skin boots, which are locally sourced, my pink leggings, and my Dolce and Gabbona bag. Today, we were looking for gas so me and about 35 of my besties are going on a raid. I have my trusty gimp Fluffy, making me a chai latte in the back of the killdozer because self care is important, gang."
according to some sources the sacking of constantinople was actually hell come to earth for many of the civilian residents and the details could never be covered on youtube
they most def could be covered on youtube, there are many horrible things covered already. And if it's a historic record, it's obviously fine... So the sources?
@@Ami-jc2oo I believe it was the translated letters of Leonard of Chios in Melville-Jones, John R. (1972). The Siege of Constantinople 1453: Seven Contemporary Accounts.
Well to be fair, there always seems to be more of us, right? Sometimes it seems like we're as numerous as blades of grass, and therefore only about that valuable on average. I know that if something happened to me the human race as a whole wouldn't blink or shed a single tear. The world won't even notice. Most of us are no more valuable to the world than a random NPC in a video game. It's not nice, but it's true. We aren't the indispensable main character, except maybe to ourselves. People have massacred millions of their countrymen many times and then just moved on. So of course doing as bad to strangers doesn't phase many. If anything, it seems more strange to me when people do genuinely revere the lives of even their enemies, because usually humanity just isn't that nice. Usually defeated enemies, if spared, are spared for a reason- for ransom, as slaves or serfs, or simply to keep things civil, not on the bare principle of the thing. And then there's crime. In America, countless children have been abused by their parents and by foster parents, and do we as a whole do ANYTHING to stop it from happening in the future, or even significantly reduce the odds? No, we lament and then move on and forget, or most of us do. There was an article just the other day about a foster family abusing at least one of the Turpin children, as well as other foster kids. What did they get? FOUR YEARS only and the wife and adult daughter of the foster father got probation. That's it. What's that going to do to deter foster parents from abusing their foster kids in the future? We don't do anything to prevent or forestall most crime. That's how little we care about each others' lives. I'd say it's not as much about mistakenly revering even the lives of those who harm others, but just plain apathy about the harm they do. But I bet a lot of people will disagree with that, and say that I'm the one who doesn't care because I will so easily discard one life to save others. And I guess they have a point, because I do exactly that without even second-guessing it. In the end, which of us reveres life more? The one who wants everyone to live, or the one who generally wants no one to suffer? It's true that I think quality of life counts too, that there's little point in living if one's life will be full of unending misery, and I think many don't hold that opinion for whatever reason. Who's right? Even I can't answer that one. Maybe only a God could, assuming one exists and is willing to talk to us.
@@Kat-amber-t2zWe are the proof of God. No matter how much intellectual ring jumping we do. There is one supreme creator, he justly balances the weights. Although I agree with most of your sentiment concerning the comings and goings of men, and their civilizations. It is truly impossible for us to know every particular of every perceived wrong doing. We only see the collapse of a civilization and read how brutal it was. Well, the things a virtuous man hates so does God(hopefully), that’s why the civilizations suffered and will continue to fall. No one cries for injustice of the poor and spoiled, perversion of natural law but, when a nation is visited for their wicked deeds, everyone is all sorrowful. The word of the Lord will stand forever.
"What are you? God or man?" "I am a man, and the servant of God." "Well. Did God tell you to insult me and call me a dog and not give food or drink to God's dog? Now in hunger the dog of God shall devour you." Immediately followed by him killing him personally 🤣 The ancients went hard as fuck 🤣
Strangely, some legends say Emperor Honorius was more concerned about his favorite pigeon "Roma" dying than about Rome being sacked. He didn't mind the city's sacking after he found his bird safe.
@@dukeheavens9990 what’s funny? Have you even heard of the Bayt Al-Hikmah (The House of Knowledge) it was arguably the biggest collection of knowledge in the world at the time
@@Galletas-my3sv That is my opinion. İ choose to fight and die, sword in hand rather than die in bed because of a disease. By the way, that disease came to the Aztec land via the blankets given them by the Spanish as a gift! That was a biological assault just like the Mongols did in Crimea. The difference is that the Genoese were aware of it while the Aztecs were not. Blankets were gifts after all, not heads catapulted through city walls.
The Aztecs had been killing and enslaving the nearby tribes for centuries before the Spanish showed up, tired of people who want them out as harmless victims, yet another group of men killing a different group, there's a reason it's mentioned super early in the Bible and many other religious text, war and sex is what our society and species is built upon
All of it is gut wrenching, but Baghdad is absolutely the most devastating to me personally. So much invaluable knowledge and scholarship was decimated.
"A sword doesn't kill" I just hear Stan from American dad in a toga. "Come on sword kill, go on.. See swords don't kill people. Swords defend people from people with smaller swords"
Not necessarily. Despite the technological advantage, Cortes's men were vastly out numbered, and it was the Tlaxcallans who did most of the heavy lifting. The smallpox that Cortes and his men brought and their strategies on the battlefield were what brought the Aztec empire down.
Gods will not protect you even if they exist. They will not interfere with human karmas balance will be lost. It is your duty to protect yourself. The strongest survives in the food chain. They are behaving practical as reality itself.
@@Qrtuop I mean Soviet society was pretty vulnerable. After they embraced atheism as a government enforced belief system that is. Totally abandoned the intrinsic value of human life and ultimately, after tens of millions of civilian deaths, collapsed. Communist China under atheism is another great example of the vulnerability of living without acknowledging God in society. Or any human society that embraces nilhism essentially.
The fall of Constantinople is one of the greatest tragedies in the history of the world. So much knowledge, wisdom, and art lost and destroyed. Absolutely devastating.
Nothing was lost. Some libraries continued to be maintained after the city was conquered. Mostly religious texts were targeted. Besides, all the knowledge within the walls also existed outside. Remember, the printing press had already been invented. Infact it was the least tragic of the 4 events in the video, even in teems of "loss of knowledge". Was the Bubonic plague not a greater tragedy ? Or, the British occupation of India ? The latter actually led to actual loss of knowledge (eg: Dhaka Muslin).
Big thumbs up for pronouncing Baghdad correctly 👍 Also it's sad that the mongols took so many of the asses, no longer did baghdadis have easily accessible asses😢
When it comes to boats/ships, the word bow (meaning the front) is pronounced like “bow before so-and-so,” like when you say “ow” after you stub your toe. Not as in bow tie. Just a small note. Amazing upload as always. I absolutely adore your channel. But since sometimes you cover naval/nautical battles or accounts of significant crossings, I just figured it is likely to come up again since it just means the front part of the ship, specifically like the outermost layer including the front most part of the deck, and also usually means the front section of the hull. You may have front facing guns, who knows. You might rig the bow of your ship to be an actual weapon to ram other ships! Crazy stuff. Usually it’s like a hot mermaid or a particular themed female protector figure, but sometimes it’s a giant boat-sized dagger attached to the front, meant to spear and ensnare the two boats so crew can board the vessel being attacked.
The destruction brought upon the world set humanity back 300-500 years, just think of all scrolls and books and scientists in baghdad at the time would have transferred that knowledge to emerging European cities, had they been conquered in the more traditional manner...
The Muslims inherited alot of Greek scrolls. The Muslim Caliphate and Eastern Roman Empire even exchanged scrolls in diplomatic gestures with each other which helped fuel the Islamic Golden Age and the Macedonian Renaissance respectively. The Kings and Generals TH-cam channel has a good video on this topic.
@@Wasteland88 yes that is always the case, one society gives to the next , knowledge moves through time and cultures and people and empires more freely simply because it is desired and humans are always striving for more.
Well they don't. Seneca was much, much smarter than you. If you read his works you might know that. But then again you might not, narcissism and Dunning-Kruger effect run rampant in modern society.
Another beautiful video, thank you friend. As an aside, the Fall of Constantinople definitely has some evident bias we can analyse, as with all historical sources. Just thinking about that makes it all the more enjoyable
One of the most ironic thing is, Hulagu khan laid such a huge destruction upon baghdad while being a "buddhist" emperor. buddhism and violence sounds rare af but history says the otherwise..
Religion doesn't matter what huglau khan did it was in his genes the central Asians were always barbaric before islam before Buddhism before zororastrianism before hinduism
"And every nation has its appointed term; when their term is reached, neither can they delay it nor can they advance it an hour (or a moment)." ~ Quran 7: 34; 10: 49
Not long after the fall of Baghdad, the Ottomans the very cousins of the Mongols, invaded both Damascus and Cairo, committing massacres in the first, but in the latter the level of damage they caused was compared to the level of damage caused by the Mongols to Baghdad.
@@Dredgionno land belongs to anyone, but colonized is a stretch considering they had granted citizenship to all provinces, shared their culture and their influence didn’t disappear with the fall of rome
I don't understand why they feel superior b@rb@ri@ns If those who brought civilization were the Romans who copied the Greeks and the Greeks copied the Egyptians and Persians
The Mongols spared the lives of Christians in Baghdad and Hammat because 2 Houlaco's generals converted to Christianity in modern Northen Iraq. They followed the Nestorian heretic church so the crusaders didn't allie themselves with the at the battle of Ain Jalut.
You should take these descriptions with a grain of salt, this is taken from a western christian source. The dexcription of the conversation between Murad and Mehmed mentioned in the beginning is also very questionable.
@@brumbotrukto223 I hear what you're saying. BUT, as with any other legend, there remains a basis in fact. Did Vlad the Impaler REALLY drink the blood of all of those people? Probably not...lol But he certainly wasn't a kind, happy person when it came time for war...lol
The account narrated is biased against Suleiman obvio. It is a Byzantine account. We do not really know exactly what happened, although the basic details of the siege have been agreed upon by many historians. Also, do not forget what the civilized Spannish did in Tenochtitlan.
@@curious_one1156 what the Spanish did, or didn't, do; That is outside the scope of the comment. And, biased or not, the winners Always write the history books, or something like that. So it stands to reason that we discount the reports of his actions just as we do the others. Which is to say: The stories typically don't originate spontaneously. 🙂
tells you something about reliability of sources and people who interpret them, especially when they are for-profit social entertainment platforms, who can hardly be taken as serious scholars sometimes
This makes Baghdad sound like nothing compared to other places the Mongols destroyed. Take Nishapur for example, where they built pyramids of skulls. Or Xi Xia, where they killed off every last member of the Tangut ethnic group before destroying any semblance of their culture whatsoever. Everything we know about them is through tombs, stone writings and accounts from other civilisations such as us Han.
I've noticed a common theme when these empires fall... it's honestly a devastating revelation on the nature of mankind throughout history. Woe is he who lives in a falling empire and has a mother, sister, wife or daughter. The heartbreak of it all is enough to destroy the souls of a billion men, let alone a single man.
the rulers of today are the descendants of the old rulers and tyrants. same bloodlines, and they do not see raping and conquering as a mistake, it got them to where they are. Tyrants vs people. this cruelty is only a mistake from the losing side, being regular people always in the middle, always radicalized to fear one and excuse another, or the tyrants themselves when they fall to another. Blind greed, willful evil, to the detriment of their own corrupt victories.
So i just had this crazy idea when the aztecs mentioned that flying comet around their city. Lets just imagine it was a UFO what if aliens since they are advanced in technology since the past have actual recordings of important events in our ancient and past history and we can acces their videos once we come into contact with them. Imagine all the history we can rewrite and actually see.
So their gods did not save their cultures or civilizations… But more methodically refined and ruthlessly employed applications of violence en masse would have. _noted_
_'They be no gods which are made by hand.'_ As for the others: Psa 127.1 _'Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.'_ 'Consider your ways' says the Lord.
Holigu had infants placed in a row and then he orderd his soldiers to ride their horses over them. The amount of barbaric actions they commited was unbelievable.
@@neimenovani7256 Dont forget we brought Christianity trough words to all parts of the worlds, we managed to fight of satanism and defend us from the muslim invasions. We did far less to deserve to be punished if compared to the us
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I don't feel much like a game called War Thunder after these heartbreaking stories of the end of civilizations, because of merciless war.
I do subscribe, click like and even watch the commercials though. Superb content, as always.
NO, stop putting shitty ads in between the clips
@@astroboirap The man have to make a living, if he is to continue his entertainment for us. The War Thunder ad is from him. The rest of the ads you can get rid of with Adblock Plus, that's your job.
Bro you made this whole video and yet you miss the point of Jesus and Christianity ... if you repent and give yourself to Christ you are saved we don't care about anything on this earth except bringing more people to Christ and repenting daily.
@@slavplaysgames But the video is not about Jesus and Christianity...Perhaps you wrote the comment at the wrong place?
The Aztec description of smallpox was horrifying. Makes me glad that it has been eradicated.
The Aztec description of what they did to captives of other tribes was horrifying. Makes me glad that…
Smallpox is still a thing
@@pete8276ah yes , the classic sacrifice falacy, only used by the most ignorants of them all
@@Elpadrino1407not really a fallacy if it’s well documented
@@guymundane3807 I’m not saying it’s not truth , I’m saying that recurring to the sacrifice argument and acknowledging to be happy because of the extermination of a group of people i, but not be at least angry for Spaniards burning people in masses and using dogs to hunt children , I mean , it’s double faced and racist
"Now in hunger, this dog of God will devour you."
Goes hard ngl
that was BRUTAL
Such a hard line
Hulagu had BARS
Man, this would have been a great line for Dog and God in New Vegas
This channel is brilliant. It has to be one of the most unique history channels on the platform. History told from those who were there.
Last thing i want to hear is European professors interpretation of the events without many sources
The scariest one to me by far is the fall of Baghdad, you just read the accounts of what happened and its like reading something out of the old testament
They destroyed Everything.
The caliph refused to surrender.
They Muslims did the same to
the non-Muslims of the areas
that they raided and who did
not immediately submit to
the Islamists. Karma?
Baghdad *never* recovered
@@here_we_go_again2571clearly you know nothing about history or Islam
@@AxmedGurey_Al-Ghazi
I know a lot about both Islam and
history. Muslim armies were brutal
to those villages, towns and cities
that did not immediately surrender
to the Islamist's demands!
There is absolutely nothing wonderful
or even peaceful about Islam or its for-profit (20% of the booty) so-called prophet.
who was a warlord!
Helugu took it personally.
The fuck did Pannonians do to Saint Jerome? He sounds particularly offended that they are involved
Pannonians were Roman citizens
They betrayed the Empire.
Im listening with my brother and mom. We were like "oh no, not the Pannonians😬- hide the silver- there goes the neighborhood..." 😂
I think maybe because it was particularly shameful to Romans since they crushed their rebellion in the past and now they came with vengeance?
@@iratepirate3896 Thank you, that explains it.
Think about the countless millions of innocent people throughout time who have been savagedly murdered and violated. So fucking sad.
Sometimes I am fascinated by humanity.
Able to create both arts and crafts with hands, and at the same time create death and destruction with the same hands like no other.
Half of all humans never even made it to adulthood
The way she goes.
Maybe they should've kept their glorious polytheistic religions instead of embracing boring ugly monotheistic ones while shoving it down the throats of others.
@@silviavalentine3812 LMAO
Eastern romans: "Could you please try to not invade our territory...FOR FIVE MINUTES!?"
Persians, ottomans, mongols, huns, barbarians, etc: "What an awesome capital you have, guys!" 😎
You forgot the Arabs. They're the ones who punished the romans the most to the point roman apocalyptic litriture increased in this period because they were so shocked that after ruling Africa and the Mid East with an iron fist for so long, they just got mopped out of the map and were cornered inside their city in a very small period of time. Arabs did all the hard work.The Turks wrote only the last chapter of this empire
@@tjo6252the Persians did the hard work by depleting Roman manpower and finances, the Arabs were just opportunists
@@tjo6252 wtf are u talking about the arab-byzantine wars happened in 8th and 9th century and turks came during the 15th century....do you realise how great of the lifespan that is?????..jesus go read a history book
@@Alton4 he thinks he is the sword of islam lol
@@Alton4 Turks came in the 11th century. Don't act smug.
Senators: "CAESAR, THE BARBARIANS HAVE SACKED ROME!"
Honorius: "OH, NO!!!... I think I ran out of bread for the birds..."
Jokes Aside, I feel bad for Honorius, to be honest. He was forced to become Emperor since he was a child despite being too young and unprepared for such position. Most of the bad things he did were by fault of the poor advisers he had, who forced him to commit horrible actions like murdering Stilicho. In fact, the docudrama "Ancient Rome: The Rise and Fall of an Empire" depicts Honorius as a cute and sympathetic teenager who doesn't know how manipulated he is. The scene in which he cries after knowing about the sacking of Rome is pretty sad, actually.
The murder of stilicho was probably one of the biggest mistakes on the part of the Romans in the late empire yeah. I forget the exact names but ik advisors of both honorius and the eastern emperor really had it out for him no matter how many times he saved their skins. Really disheartening once you start learning about late Rome on the decline and see that a lot of it was due to incompetent and greedy men fighting amongst themselves one after another. Although that narrative could be so different from early imperial and late republican history as a result of bias or romanticization of the 'good ole days', but i like to think that constant civil wars is a pretty good marker for decline and instability lol.
I think the fall of Rome is kind of ironic
@@Samwise_01 the killing of Stilicho, Aetius and Maiorianus were the nails that sealed the western coffin
@@CelticAugurbarbarus
Yes! Its almost poetic justice tho@@Samwise_01
After reading about Emperor Valentinian I:
I really think that Rome was having an emerging problem with "Princess Syndrome" in the general public.
Which explains why they were vulnerable to the Visigoth invasions. Since nobody wanted to do anything responsible.
The whole talk of "Bread and Circus."
sounds like the modern day West to me.
In Valentinian’s case it would be Prince Sickness
Happens after a while with every civilization & great power@@georgeargueta6256
its widely noted Italians were not interested to serve in the army, had other money making options; forcing the Army to hire goths, huns, sarmatians, etc.
It had also grown so fucking big that managing a centralised power became impossible. Didn't help they developed a practice of conquering and erasing the cultures of those they defeated. Things like that leave a mark on the surrounding peoples.
"A sword never kills anybody. It is a tool in the killer's hand" -> "Guns don't kill people, people kill people".
Nothing new under the sun
guns don't kill people, i do.
Imagine comparing a sword to a machine gun
@@juggyy5429both weapons, one is better at killing
@@jaycefiene9566 right, so the same logic shouldn't apply.
NOT THE PANNONIANS!!! 😱😱😱
Roman citizens
@iratepirate3896 No, those are Paninians
Alas!!!
Sounds like at that point you've hit rock bottom, lol.
Tacitus Kilgore 😂😂
Imagine being a small child and being caught up in one of these situations. Horrifying to think about.
Yeah and the enemy soldiers were literally going around killing everyone they found including kids. Unthinkable to us now but this wasn’t even that unusual back then
Sadly still happens @@Yung_Fettuccine
@@Yung_Fettuccine they were not gonna just kill. they did every thing
@@Yung_FettuccineModern soldiers do that as well, we just talk about it less favorably.
@@Yung_Fettuccine Actually, killing women and children was a lot less common then simply selling them into slavery
The fall of the Aztecs is really sad. They didn't stand a chance. The fall of Baghdad was brutal 2. The mongols were vicious
@Armored_ArieteThat's a myth. Hell, the 'Aztecs' adopted human sacrifice from the very people they supposedly "opressed"
@Armored_Ariete But that had nothing to do with their religious practices. They oppressed their subjects by taxing them, most of them however would not turn against Tenochtitlan until the death of Motecuhzoma and dismantling of the Triple Alliance...
@Armored_Ariete european Christian is still burning people alive on the steak during the fall of the Aztec and using after the Aztec fell force the native populations into slave labour
@Armored_ArieteFalse, the Tlaxcalans, who were the most important Spanish ally, practiced sacrifices, And they were forced to ally themselves with Cortés so that the Spaniards and Totonacs would stop killing and burning in their villages and cities.
@Armored_ArieteFalse, the Tlaxcalans, who were the most important Spanish ally, practiced sacrifices, And they were forced to ally themselves with Cortés so that the Spaniards and Totonacs would stop killing and burning in their villages and cities. They even tried to make a peace treaty with the Aztecs and an alliance to expel the Spanish.
I am surprised that the account of the final conquering of Constantinople was written by Italians. By this time the Empire was a shell, and Constantinople itself was severely depopulated. The idea that the Emperor had 90,000 soldiers is hugely unlikely, as it is estimated that the city no longer contained even 100,000 people in total.
This wasn't a clash of mighty empires, this was a final beatdown of a broken rival, much like the Third Punic War. Sultan Mehmet simply sped the death of the Eastern Romans by a century.
The population of Constantinople was about 40000. It was a shell of itself the troops inside with the mercenaries was about 7000. The Turks won a bankrupt and ruined city
you can't say definitively that the ERE would be gone in 100 years if not for the turks. Empires have came back from many things
Constantinople would have still stood even today had the orcs not invaded
@@hyperboreanforeskinYeah..Its more like 25.
@@feduntuwell that’s clearly just racism
Four cavalry men broke up an aztec line and routed the entrenched defenders. Insane
Cavalry were the tanks of their day. If you aren't used to fighting them its pretty hard to hold the line against a 1000 lb horse and fully armed rider.
Four alone worked since the Americas hadn't had any time to adapt to them yet.
A lot of police forces still use them for riot control
The market was big and flat, definitely the worst place to fight a horseman if you're unprepared. The natives DID quickly learn to counter horses and such a charge was extremely risky even on favourable terrain. Some really brave spaniards.
I mean like, they never saw a horse ever
Based
Fall of Constantinople was so sad
I've read the book by Roger Crowley perhaps 4 or 5 times. "1453" is a masterful account, that I think gave inspiration for the mediocre Turkish Netflix production.
Never trust the Genoese!
Real.
Yeah, but they were so evil. The knowledge they destroyed. Gah.
@@samadams2203 Or the Venetians!
I think it was Scipio Africanus that watched the destruction of Carthage, their empire, and the defeat of their greatest general, Hannibal, with a sense of foreboding, imagining that once something similar might happen to Rome. I think they even salted the fields, to prevent another rise of the empire, ever again.
That salt part is a lie.
Salting was done in respect, and wasnt a massive amount, maybe a handful at most. Salt was extremely expensive, and would not have been wasted to "dry the land". Especially considering most of it would be washed away by floods or by rain.
the salting of the fields is just a myth, they didn't actually do that. Otherwise what you said is accurate (near as can be told).
@@aidan1R Yes, you must be right about the salt and how it was not tossed around the whole agricultural area of Carthage. The modern word for "salary" is derived from 'salt', I remember from another "salt"-debate I had with someone here on TH-cam. ☺
@@aidan1Rsalt was not particularly expensive, that is also a myth. It was only expensive if one lived far away from the coast or salt mines. It is just a very useful product
@@Donderu considering that the sheer amount of salt it would take to do anythign to soil, it would be hyper expensive
You know your enemy is ruthless when he doesn't even care about his dying father's peace treaties.
they were not in good relations since Mehmed was a kid
I have learned so much from these readings. Thank you
Baghdad and Constantinople, such tragedies. What is it with Nomadic horse people.
Check again. Constantinople was not taken by Nomads.
As for Baghdad, its destruction was severe, not comparable to Constantinople.
@@curious_one1156 exactly!
it is so funny that most of these people compare the fall of constantinople to a apocalyptic event when in reality... it was mild. the city just changed hand, nothing much changed or destroyed. the soldiers only raided royal treasure for 3 days. whic was pretty short for medieval period and the sultan himself gave safety guarantee to civilians of city. if anyting the sack of constantinople by latins was even worse so much that there a legend about Lucas Notaras saying "ı would prefer to see Turkish turban in city, rather than Latin cone."
The Ottomans weren't nomadic
@@lordgrunwalder1607 Yeah in all honesty I think people are so caught up trying to find the good and bad guys in history that they neglect the fact that it is never that simple. Many people absolutely adore the Roman Empire, so anyone who opposed them must be an evil murdering demon sent directly from hell. People really need to learn to control their biases when it comes to history and they may find that there is great beauty on either side of a conflict.
I find it interesting how these “nomadic horse people” destroy everything they see but their grandchildren are so in love with the conquered people and they work so hard and spend so much money to bring it all back…
The slide into the ad is always so smooth! Great job on that writing skill!
Quality....keep it coming brother ✊🏻
"The sword never kills anybody, its a tool in the killers hand"
I wonder how many people agree or disagree with that quote
The NRA demonstrably agreed: they've used a similar expression as a motto for decades.
Its a tool that only does 1 thing
@@reeyees50 Ok? And?
@@reeyees50it cuts things. Like celery and meat
@reeyees50 there many tools that only do 1 thing
I think Honorius had a neurological disorder, not as an internet insult but a genuine birth defect.
What makes you say that?
@@PeriodDrama He was feeding birds while his capital was being invaded
He would have loved sonic 😔
@@firstlast5454hello this is Barbara Chandler
@@AYVYN The capital was Ravenna not Rome
The mongols were really brutal.
“God knows what he does” is an incredible line from Helugu
hulagu telling the caliph "now in hunger the dog of god shall devour you" is chilling
@@guilhermecastro9893 Ghenghis & Halagu the great for a reason.
@@surojeetchatterjee ya hulagu got chastized by his brother for the massacre
@@guilhermecastro9893 nothing like that happened. He was not given khanate by Mongols as he was turkic peasant child. So he converted. 😌 not halagus own brother.
@@surojeetchatterjee except he was hulagus brother...and the mongols didnt kill artisan, religous chiefs or doctors
YaY! My favorite channel finally uploaded a new video!
The sultan Suleiman was born many decades latter, Im sure they are mentioning another guy by the same name
I'm already imagining accounts about the fall of our current civilization.
and then mcdonalds ran out of nuggets...
"In the year of our Lord 2078 New York fell. Carts of glizzies were overturned on Broadway. Men, women, and children alike had their Timberlands burned, none were spared."
The difference is that instead of lamentating our fall they will celebrate it. After all they don't have any attachement for the West at all...
Well the fall of Western Europe is happening as we speak so stay tuned.
"What's up guys, its me Sarasayswhat? This is my blog during the fall of Western civilization. As you can see, I have my Chihuahua skin boots, which are locally sourced, my pink leggings, and my Dolce and Gabbona bag. Today, we were looking for gas so me and about 35 of my besties are going on a raid. I have my trusty gimp Fluffy, making me a chai latte in the back of the killdozer because self care is important, gang."
WTF was that "omen" the Aztecs saw above the city?
Probably just and eclipse, not a UFO like you're implying
@@Qrtuop how was i implying it was a UFO?
It was the god of war Huitzilopochtli going to the bathroom after fail in protect the aztecs
@@argentinaballxd9046 lol yes!
There were eight omen in total before their destruction. Check it on the internet. Pretty interesting it is
Interesting that the Roman Empire fell twice.
It's making a comeback
@@OptimusPrinceps_Augustus When? Where? How?
It has fallen three times now as Vatican has faded into irrelevance.
@@instantdominator2121 TODAY, RIGHT NOW, IN THE VATICAN CITY WHERE THE REIGNS OF EMPERORS IS MAKING A COMEBACK
@@instantdominator2121 the Eastern Empire fell in 1204 and then again 1453.
The Western Empire in 476.
13:33 That image represents the Siege of Lisbon in 1147
“What shall we do with you?”
*trying to be tuff* “You can be head me!”
*without thinking twice* “ok”
“Wait I was just- “
according to some sources the sacking of constantinople was actually hell come to earth for many of the civilian residents and the details could never be covered on youtube
The sources are bullshit as most reliable sources says it was good
they most def could be covered on youtube, there are many horrible things covered already. And if it's a historic record, it's obviously fine... So the sources?
Could you link some sources? I would love to read.
@@Ami-jc2oo I believe it was the translated letters of Leonard of Chios in Melville-Jones, John R. (1972). The Siege of Constantinople 1453: Seven Contemporary Accounts.
@@WORLDCRUSHER9000 that's one of the best sources well known among historians, so why would it be restricted lmfaooo. It's not red room creepypasta
Fall of Civilisations - My most favourite channel to fall asleep to other than this one
The lack of reverence for human life even to this day just blows me away.
Well to be fair, there always seems to be more of us, right? Sometimes it seems like we're as numerous as blades of grass, and therefore only about that valuable on average. I know that if something happened to me the human race as a whole wouldn't blink or shed a single tear. The world won't even notice. Most of us are no more valuable to the world than a random NPC in a video game. It's not nice, but it's true. We aren't the indispensable main character, except maybe to ourselves. People have massacred millions of their countrymen many times and then just moved on. So of course doing as bad to strangers doesn't phase many. If anything, it seems more strange to me when people do genuinely revere the lives of even their enemies, because usually humanity just isn't that nice. Usually defeated enemies, if spared, are spared for a reason- for ransom, as slaves or serfs, or simply to keep things civil, not on the bare principle of the thing. And then there's crime. In America, countless children have been abused by their parents and by foster parents, and do we as a whole do ANYTHING to stop it from happening in the future, or even significantly reduce the odds? No, we lament and then move on and forget, or most of us do. There was an article just the other day about a foster family abusing at least one of the Turpin children, as well as other foster kids. What did they get? FOUR YEARS only and the wife and adult daughter of the foster father got probation. That's it. What's that going to do to deter foster parents from abusing their foster kids in the future? We don't do anything to prevent or forestall most crime. That's how little we care about each others' lives. I'd say it's not as much about mistakenly revering even the lives of those who harm others, but just plain apathy about the harm they do. But I bet a lot of people will disagree with that, and say that I'm the one who doesn't care because I will so easily discard one life to save others. And I guess they have a point, because I do exactly that without even second-guessing it. In the end, which of us reveres life more? The one who wants everyone to live, or the one who generally wants no one to suffer? It's true that I think quality of life counts too, that there's little point in living if one's life will be full of unending misery, and I think many don't hold that opinion for whatever reason. Who's right? Even I can't answer that one. Maybe only a God could, assuming one exists and is willing to talk to us.
@@Kat-amber-t2zWe are the proof of God. No matter how much intellectual ring jumping we do. There is one supreme creator, he justly balances the weights.
Although I agree with most of your sentiment concerning the comings and goings of men, and their civilizations. It is truly impossible for us to know every particular of every perceived wrong doing. We only see the collapse of a civilization and read how brutal it was.
Well, the things a virtuous man hates so does God(hopefully), that’s why the civilizations suffered and will continue to fall.
No one cries for injustice of the poor and spoiled, perversion of natural law but, when a nation is visited for their wicked deeds, everyone is all sorrowful.
The word of the Lord will stand forever.
The world isn't any better today. Israel and the USA have been wiping people out by the millions.
"What are you? God or man?"
"I am a man, and the servant of God."
"Well. Did God tell you to insult me and call me a dog and not give food or drink to God's dog? Now in hunger the dog of God shall devour you." Immediately followed by him killing him personally 🤣
The ancients went hard as fuck 🤣
Insulting a Turk is always a bad idea..
@@ggoddkkiller1342 Lol, my ancestors did that a lot in WW1. What can the ice cream clowns do?
@@PahadiSher Are you sure your ancestors weren't a part of captured British army in Iraq or still resting in Gallipoli today?
@@ggoddkkiller1342 They were Mongols not Turks... Different people
@@ggoddkkiller1342They're are Mongol, turk are just the lackey of them during the Mongol empire reign.
Caliph to Hulagu: You are a dog, a Turk.
Hulagu to caliph: Now in hunger, the dog of god will devour you.
He called him tatar not t*rk
@@bababoi9294Tatars are Trqs
@@bababoi9294why did bro censor it
@@snailcheeseyt its a d!rty word
Strangely, some legends say Emperor Honorius was more concerned about his favorite pigeon "Roma" dying than about Rome being sacked. He didn't mind the city's sacking after he found his bird safe.
Supposedly the bird was cooked and ate in front of him, lol.
The fall of Baghdad was so sad, so much knowledge was forever lost and the people were completely massacred
😂😂😂
@@dukeheavens9990 what’s funny? Have you even heard of the Bayt Al-Hikmah (The House of Knowledge) it was arguably the biggest collection of knowledge in the world at the time
@@clintonbaird5465HIKMAH doesn't mean knowledge it mean wisdom
@@yash3579 true true but Al-Hakeem can also be translated as All Knowing, and Haqq is truth, knowledge and wisdom are similar meanings
@@clintonbaird5465 They destroyed Taxila & Nalanda University, they got destroyed by Mongols. That's how karma works.
On the topic I strongly recommend Schwerpunkt's videos on 1) Late Antiquity 2) The fall of Constantinople (the Western/Ottoman side too)
The worst is the Aztecs dying because of smallpox. The others had the chance to fight.
Completely false and reductionist
@@Galletas-my3sv That is my opinion. İ choose to fight and die, sword in hand rather than die in bed because of a disease. By the way, that disease came to the Aztec land via the blankets given them by the Spanish as a gift! That was a biological assault just like the Mongols did in Crimea. The difference is that the Genoese were aware of it while the Aztecs were not. Blankets were gifts after all, not heads catapulted through city walls.
@@Galletas-my3svCan you fight smallpox?
The Aztecs had been killing and enslaving the nearby tribes for centuries before the Spanish showed up, tired of people who want them out as harmless victims, yet another group of men killing a different group, there's a reason it's mentioned super early in the Bible and many other religious text, war and sex is what our society and species is built upon
what chance did the civilians of Baghdad have against the fucking Mongols lol
All of it is gut wrenching, but Baghdad is absolutely the most devastating to me personally. So much invaluable knowledge and scholarship was decimated.
"A sword doesn't kill"
I just hear Stan from American dad in a toga.
"Come on sword kill, go on.. See swords don't kill people. Swords defend people from people with smaller swords"
_Good morning Roman Empire!_ 🎶
This channel is brilliant. History told from those who were there.
Last 2 stories differ too much from each other, yet so close chronologically.
The entire war between the Spaniards and the Aztecs is an Empire Earth moment
AY an EE fan les go!
Not necessarily. Despite the technological advantage, Cortes's men were vastly out numbered, and it was the Tlaxcallans who did most of the heavy lifting. The smallpox that Cortes and his men brought and their strategies on the battlefield were what brought the Aztec empire down.
Your gods will not save you. The weight and power behind that statement. Incredible.
Because gods do not exist. Believing in them makes you vulnerable
Gods will not protect you even if they exist. They will not interfere with human karmas balance will be lost. It is your duty to protect yourself. The strongest survives in the food chain. They are behaving practical as reality itself.
@@Qrtuopyes, because there can only be 1 true God.
@@Qrtuop I mean Soviet society was pretty vulnerable. After they embraced atheism as a government enforced belief system that is. Totally abandoned the intrinsic value of human life and ultimately, after tens of millions of civilian deaths, collapsed. Communist China under atheism is another great example of the vulnerability of living without acknowledging God in society. Or any human society that embraces nilhism essentially.
Jesus never promised peace. He did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
The fall of Constantinople is one of the greatest tragedies in the history of the world.
So much knowledge, wisdom, and art lost and destroyed. Absolutely devastating.
The burning of the library of Alexandria
Nothing was lost.
Some libraries continued to be maintained after the city was conquered.
Mostly religious texts were targeted. Besides, all the knowledge within the walls also existed outside. Remember, the printing press had already been invented.
Infact it was the least tragic of the 4 events in the video, even in teems of "loss of knowledge".
Was the Bubonic plague not a greater tragedy ?
Or, the British occupation of India ? The latter actually led to actual loss of knowledge (eg: Dhaka Muslin).
@@cw4608the destruction of the libraries in baghdad
All 4 of those were great tragedies. It's insane how much we've lost.
@@curious_one1156cope 💀
Um, I don't know about anyone else but WHAT was the object (Omen) that the AZTEC people saw come across the sky, HOVER then go down into the lake????
And then I have to wonder .... Is it still in the lake???
@@thesanfranciscoseahorse473 Isn't the lake drained?
I know right! Aliens
Likely fireworks 😂
Erich Von Danniken asked, fully knowing no one could possibly tell for sure and therefore it was aliens.
11:32 wait, how long is a German mile?
Big thumbs up for pronouncing Baghdad correctly 👍
Also it's sad that the mongols took so many of the asses, no longer did baghdadis have easily accessible asses😢
Not the asses😢
Nnnooooo the asses!
They took ALL the asses? Not even one left? truly a tragedy.
imagine playing this to the guys who wrote it nearly 1000 years ago. "These are your words, but first a word from our Sponsor, War Thunder"
8:08 he really said “I got that dog in me” anciently 😂
"This is the story of the guy who fell asleep and didn't light the next beacon of Gondor." lol
When it comes to boats/ships, the word bow (meaning the front) is pronounced like “bow before so-and-so,” like when you say “ow” after you stub your toe. Not as in bow tie. Just a small note. Amazing upload as always. I absolutely adore your channel. But since sometimes you cover naval/nautical battles or accounts of significant crossings, I just figured it is likely to come up again since it just means the front part of the ship, specifically like the outermost layer including the front most part of the deck, and also usually means the front section of the hull. You may have front facing guns, who knows. You might rig the bow of your ship to be an actual weapon to ram other ships! Crazy stuff. Usually it’s like a hot mermaid or a particular themed female protector figure, but sometimes it’s a giant boat-sized dagger attached to the front, meant to spear and ensnare the two boats so crew can board the vessel being attacked.
you could’ve just said “bow” as in “bowing to someone”
@@aguyonasiteontheinternet you too could’ve kept you comment to yourself, yet here we both are🤷🏻♀️
@@laurelsilberman5705just pointing something out no need to get aggressive
@@aguyonasiteontheinternet I’m not being aggressive. I just chose not to recieve your criticism.
@@laurelsilberman5705 how was it criticism
Such is the nature of the Ruinous Powers of Chaos. Their only interest is self perpetuation in their eternal game between themselves.
The destruction brought upon the world set humanity back 300-500 years, just think of all scrolls and books and scientists in baghdad at the time would have transferred that knowledge to emerging European cities, had they been conquered in the more traditional manner...
The Muslims inherited alot of Greek scrolls. The Muslim Caliphate and Eastern Roman Empire even exchanged scrolls in diplomatic gestures with each other which helped fuel the Islamic Golden Age and the Macedonian Renaissance respectively. The Kings and Generals TH-cam channel has a good video on this topic.
@@Wasteland88 yes that is always the case, one society gives to the next , knowledge moves through time and cultures and people and empires more freely simply because it is desired and humans are always striving for more.
Same for all of these falls
'You are a dog, a Turk'
Ouch, now that's an insult if ever I've heard one.
"Now in hunger the dog of god shall devour you" might be one of the coldest lines ever said in history
Was the omen the cannon balls?
Nope, they were familiar with those already. We have no idea what that was lol
Ah, I see Seneca was the original "guns don't kill people" guy.
They don't
Bro had a point.
Ah, I see you would have been a plebeian.
@@rogercase9982gammon
Well they don't. Seneca was much, much smarter than you. If you read his works you might know that. But then again you might not, narcissism and Dunning-Kruger effect run rampant in modern society.
Strictly, the aztecs were never wiped out. There is a fairly large nahua community of nahua people, their direct descendants, to this day.
It’s hard to say which is more traumatic the end or watching the slow rot that leads to the inevitable end.
The end of course. Most don’t see the slow rot that leads to the end otherwise the end would be avoided.
@ no, it’s more like getting caught in the middle of a mob hell bent on going over the edge of a cliff and taking you with them.
17:02 Suleman the Magnificent?!! Wtf? This can't be a contemporary source
also 91k byzantine soldiers
Well you refer to Alexander as Alexander the Great don’t you? You are just biased against the Ottomans.
That's a title Christian Westerners gave him, actually, his own people called him Suleiman the Lawgiver
Wow. They lived in interesting times ...we also live in interesting times ....
Every time is interesting if you look hard enough. It sucks to be a regular person no matter what.
Can we all agree that the Mongol conquest of Baghdad was tragic
the war thunder transition was hilarious lololool
Another beautiful video, thank you friend.
As an aside, the Fall of Constantinople definitely has some evident bias we can analyse, as with all historical sources. Just thinking about that makes it all the more enjoyable
"As my city falls I will fall with it."
-Constantine XI
I would have liked some Salvian or Sidonius Apollonaris too!
The war thunder ad caught me off guard lmao
One of the most ironic thing is, Hulagu khan laid such a huge destruction upon baghdad while being a "buddhist" emperor.
buddhism and violence sounds rare af but history says the otherwise..
Caliph was forced after destroying Buddhist & Hindus empire kingdoms near Sassanid.
@@SimhaArya-zu7vohe's talking about mongol huglau khan not iranian sassanids
Sassanids were muslim huglau khan was buddhist
Religion doesn't matter what huglau khan did it was in his genes the central Asians were always barbaric before islam before Buddhism before zororastrianism before hinduism
@sunnykapoor141 Sassanid were Parsi. Caliphate was formed after attacking Buddhist & Hindu Kingdoms near Gandhar and Zoroastrians Persia
@@sunnykapoor141 sassanids were zoroastrian
"And every nation has its appointed term; when their term is reached, neither can they delay it nor can they advance it an hour (or a moment)." ~ Quran 7: 34; 10: 49
get out of here with your demon book
@@through-faith-alone cry more
@@Sir_FiddlerIV Jesus is God
@@through-faith-alone nope
In the bible, Acts 17,already said that 500 years earlier, Quran filled with rip offs. Jesus will judge. Mohammed will melt. Police be upon him.
Not long after the fall of Baghdad, the Ottomans the very cousins of the Mongols, invaded both Damascus and Cairo, committing massacres in the first, but in the latter the level of damage they caused was compared to the level of damage caused by the Mongols to Baghdad.
„Those cities have fallen to Germany.“ In 409 AD? Seems a bit early to me.
Germania was the Latin term for German land, so.... Germany, A corruption of the word in the German's own tongue.
@@Dredgionno land belongs to anyone, but colonized is a stretch considering they had granted citizenship to all provinces, shared their culture and their influence didn’t disappear with the fall of rome
I don't understand why they feel superior b@rb@ri@ns If those who brought civilization were the Romans who copied the Greeks and the Greeks copied the Egyptians and Persians
@@Dredgioncringe
Germs are always up to no good.
The Mongols spared the lives of Christians in Baghdad and Hammat because 2 Houlaco's generals converted to Christianity in modern Northen Iraq. They followed the Nestorian heretic church so the crusaders didn't allie themselves with the at the battle of Ain Jalut.
And the church & pope in Vatican is real? Lol
"heretic"
As gen Z speakers " don't cook" you just smashed history phenomens and phenomenons.
16:44 Is this the same Suleman that is given as an example of a great leader...of a peaceful religion?
AFAF
🙂
You should take these descriptions with a grain of salt, this is taken from a western christian source. The dexcription of the conversation between Murad and Mehmed mentioned in the beginning is also very questionable.
@@brumbotrukto223 I hear what you're saying. BUT, as with any other legend, there remains a basis in fact. Did Vlad the Impaler REALLY drink the blood of all of those people? Probably not...lol But he certainly wasn't a kind, happy person when it came time for war...lol
The account narrated is biased against Suleiman obvio. It is a Byzantine account. We do not really know exactly what happened, although the basic details of the siege have been agreed upon by many historians.
Also, do not forget what the civilized Spannish did in Tenochtitlan.
@@curious_one1156 what the Spanish did, or didn't, do; That is outside the scope of the comment.
And, biased or not, the winners Always write the history books, or something like that. So it stands to reason that we discount the reports of his actions just as we do the others.
Which is to say: The stories typically don't originate spontaneously.
🙂
Suleiman wasn’t born in era of Mehmet so …..
Great thumbnail. Something refreshing then those shocking Silly faces 😂
15:27 91.000 men? The defenders only numbered 8 thousand
tells you something about reliability of sources and people who interpret them, especially when they are for-profit social entertainment platforms, who can hardly be taken as serious scholars sometimes
it's not a contemporary source
he said prince Suleiman converted hagia sophia when even his father wasn't born yet
Im so early, I don't have any clue who all these 4 men are
This makes Baghdad sound like nothing compared to other places the Mongols destroyed. Take Nishapur for example, where they built pyramids of skulls. Or Xi Xia, where they killed off every last member of the Tangut ethnic group before destroying any semblance of their culture whatsoever. Everything we know about them is through tombs, stone writings and accounts from other civilisations such as us Han.
I've noticed a common theme when these empires fall... it's honestly a devastating revelation on the nature of mankind throughout history. Woe is he who lives in a falling empire and has a mother, sister, wife or daughter. The heartbreak of it all is enough to destroy the souls of a billion men, let alone a single man.
The country's of today need to learn from these past civilizations mistakes.
That islam with pillage civilization?
@supremecaffeine2633 WTF
the rulers of today are the descendants of the old rulers and tyrants. same bloodlines, and they do not see raping and conquering as a mistake, it got them to where they are. Tyrants vs people. this cruelty is only a mistake from the losing side, being regular people always in the middle, always radicalized to fear one and excuse another, or the tyrants themselves when they fall to another. Blind greed, willful evil, to the detriment of their own corrupt victories.
Other empires literally caused double the damage as compared to Islamic ones at the time. Wild Islamaphobia up in here @@supremecaffeine2633
Damn. After listening to this, it feels like Syphilis was revenge for Smallpox.
The siege of Baghdad interaction reminds me of
MATTHEW 15:21-28
So i just had this crazy idea when the aztecs mentioned that flying comet around their city. Lets just imagine it was a UFO what if aliens since they are advanced in technology since the past have actual recordings of important events in our ancient and past history and we can acces their videos once we come into contact with them. Imagine all the history we can rewrite and actually see.
Goofy
its a cool thought experiment sure...is it even remotly true or logical? absulutly not
UFO in Cortez battle?
No, just superior military tactics and equipment is all
I freaking love your videos where you read accounts of impending doom. Your voice is so perfect. I even feel scared myself lol
So their gods did not save their cultures or civilizations…
But more methodically refined and ruthlessly employed applications of violence en masse would have.
_noted_
_'They be no gods which are made by hand.'_ As for the others: Psa 127.1 _'Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.'_ 'Consider your ways' says the Lord.
Get a different pair of glasses. Nothing is destroyed like that without cause.
Good video.
We do it to ourselves
Bad ass channel 🔥
Even Pannonians? God Romania really has gone to shit…
Holigu had infants placed in a row and then he orderd his soldiers to ride their horses over them. The amount of barbaric actions they commited was unbelievable.
I wonder if in the future the same will be said of modern Europe
100%
It already is happening, as if God is punishing them for what they did in the past.
@@KyoushaPumpItUp civilising the world and bring infrastructure to people in the stone age, what villains!
@@Kladjos I dont think he means that, I think he means WW2, creating satanism and netflix, like what happened in the last few decades
@@neimenovani7256 Dont forget we brought Christianity trough words to all parts of the worlds, we managed to fight of satanism and defend us from the muslim invasions. We did far less to deserve to be punished if compared to the us
8:06 oh my god this kinda goes hard
Wtf was the Aztecs omen in the sky?
Ecplise
A comet ☄️
Fireworks
Damn, human history is really fucked up, I’m always surprised by how evil some people were, and how it was perfectly normal at the time