@AGR_678 yea 1 on 1 freiza solos anyone whos thrown at him, but the viltrum army doesnt mind jumping so freiza would prob need his final form to genuinky keep up with an entire army thats pushing 45+
@@marcanthonyclaivil6527 I don’t know, Freeza would probably have his scouter on him. So he would know if he needs to transform. Given how much stronger he is compared to them, he probably wouldn’t need to transform. The jump between Star level and normal planet level is gigantic (Unless u don’t believe in Star level Freeza) Even if he does transform, he probably wouldn’t need to go to his final form.
Nah I'd say Og dB could probably get close.roshi destroyed a moon and he wasn't even The strongest there,goku at the end of original Db could most likely take on a small or normal planet..So I'd say it would be no Competition
Gone are the days of actually fair and interesting matchups now its "guys i'm gonna pit this coughing baby with cancer that's missing both his arms and has one leg against a god of omega death i wonder who's gonna win guys??"
@@deborahheader6227 Freeza: Now for the important question…………….. what wine should I have for dinner tonight? White wine? Red wine? Or dare I say…………Super Saiyan Rosé?
@@Senwa_Zenno Frieza: zarbon what wine do we have in stock on the ship? Zarbon: we have a vending machine Frieza: why do we have a vending machine if we already own the products.
Thrag: We are the invincible Viltrumite Empire. Recoom: You brag about your empire. How you're the greatest warriors in alllll the universe. But guess where they'll be. DEAD! You talk about your warrior race, and your, invincibility, and your pride. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN A DAMN THING TO THIS MAN! Because the names, RECOOM, and it rhymes, WITH DOOM. And you're gonna be hurtin. ALL! TO! SOOOOOOOOON! (strikes ridiculous pose)
people always count veltrumites travel speed as their massively different combat speed. They can reach super high travel speeds because their smart atoms allow them to resist high friction and accelerate tremendously. but without time to accelerate their reaction and combat speed, they cannot even evade ki blasts from Frieza soldiers. it's like comparing a drag race car vs a track car. the 1st one can accelerate and reach higher speeds if given the opportunity but the track car is ultimately better at steering and handling tough curves.
Even if their travel speed was their combat speed cell saga tien scales to like 4 quidrillion times ftl while viltrumite travel speed is like 1.5 billion with a long run up 🤣
I can just envision Omni man flying towards Freeza at the top of his ship, throwing a punch only for Freeza to do what Jiren did to God Goku and block it with his finger while he’s charging his supernova
The Saibamen aren't powerful enough to hurt Viltrumites though. While injured, they can still tear Earth in half when working together. That's massively above the Saibamen's paygrade
@@lucasbroome1048 piccolo pre training with a power level of 310 or something. could one tap the moon with one keyblast a saibaman is as strong as raditz ( power level around 1200) meaning theyd have the energy to at least blow up the moon 3x over ( not even accounting for the facts beams can be stronger than your power level) ( nor the fact that maybe picollo didnt use his all in that blast) Also the viltrumite feat isnt consistent as 1 the planet was on the verge of collapse and 2 it required the 3 most powerful viltrumite working together sinchronized at ONCE. if their timing was fof by even a second they wouldnt have been able to pull it off. You my good sir masivelly underestimate the power of a saibamen
Literally any character in dragon ball with a power level equivalent to raditz is already a planet buster, the saiyan trio is already a match for the entire viltrumite empire alone
Thragg: Frieza, I have resurrected every Viltrumite in history and merged their strength with my own, creating the ultimate being! You have no chance! Frieza: *Looks at him*. Thragg: *Explodes*.
At this rate it's a similarly pitiable situation as the boys I think. Fans of each series wanna speculate on cross verse match ups like the rest of us, but not much of anyone in a similar genre is in the same ball park really.
Viltrumites aren’t overrated, invincible characters are quite fairly rated for the most part Still doesn’t change the fact that black freiza one taps the entire verse though
@@Kumo0toko There's a Supreme crossover where Omni-Man fights Mean Supreme, a guy who's equal to Suprema. Suprema is universal according to statements. That's where Universal Invincible comes from.
The fact Frieza was destroying planets in his bas form 20 plus years ago in dragon ball z .. Imagine Frieza current black form 🤣 it's not even a show / match . Shouldn't even be a discussion even though it's all entertainment purposes..
It takes a already unstable planet and 3 very strong viltramites to destroy a planet Freezia in his weakest state, did it with ease Edit: all the replies are just saying how fucking powerful Frieza is, not that I mind:) Edit 2: How the hell is this still going on? I'm impressed(if you see this, just a reminder that it took 3 viltramites, 1 infinity gun, and a already unstable planet to do a feat a super weak version of freezia did with a single finger. AND THAT PLANET VEGETA WAS PROBABLY BIGGER THAN THAT PLANET*
@@ShadowDante7 quite the opposite actually, I absolutely love Yor Forger, she's incredibly beautiful and has such an amazing personality and she's so sweet yet so strong and dangerous, like she could literally cut my balls off and deep fry them extra crispy. And in another Timeline, somewhere inside some random Macrocosm out of the Infinite that cover the Macrocasim, she's my loving wife and we've been married for 15 Years. Such a happy and wonderful relationship with such a beautiful and amazing woman. Anya doesn't exist though we have another Two children, Two guys named John and Siegfried Forger although John recently sold his soul to Demons and became a powerful magician and married a girl named Zatanna. He'd honestly be at least a small percentage my power with his Synchronicity Wave alone, easily High Outerversal and rivalling even my own Nexus.
First we should talk about the number of ants that the sun faces, if we took the entire population of ants to bring the ant empire in its prime we have a population of around 20 billion. The resistance of ants allows them to be thrown from a building and survive without a scratch. While the sun has 0 Stamina, 0 speed and 0 strenght, so in a hand to hand battle Ants won but Could the ants win against sun Phase 2? Probably not, but they would be a worthy opponent for the sun
@@Stff1561 You are forgetting the sun's special ability where any living beings would get burnt alive along with getting radiation if they do not have a protective suit. if the ants were to attack the sun they would get vaporized if they get too close. But ants happen to be really smart so they would discover about this ability and try other methods of damaging the sun
@@ManyNames Also don't forget the adaptability of ants, over time they would be able to adapt to the sun, while they are also allies of the Brazilian treehoper (Mahoraga) so that's a point for the ants
Don't get me wrong, I like putting characters against different verses to fight but that's when they are relatively close and are capable of hurting one another. Frieza could sneeze and wipe them all out. Like their best option for HURTING him is all of them flying at max speed and ramming into Frieza while he's off-guard or something.
@@judie6727 The "Off-Guard" thing is mostly a tool of the plot to spice things up, without a specific goal in mind other than having frieza vs viltrum , it's a wash fr
@@D-class9341 I did say when he's off-guard lmao, like when he's sleeping or something. Also this is Frieza, him not going at them full power just because he looks down at them is very in character.
Viltrumites are just watered-down Saiyans, even their strongest hypothetical warriors like 1000 years time skip Invincible would get slapped around by DBZ Frieza, end of story
@@robainsworth2014 stronger viltrumites don't even scale to planet, Vegeta scales to large planet in the saiyan saga Dodoria, Zarbon, and debatably Cui all dominate saiyan saga vegeta.
@@xeratovildan9871 The only advantage Vultrumites have is generally speed. But even without dwarf star level calcs for Frieza(Or hell, even Vegeta) those evil side kick level characters just have too much of a power differential to overcome. Nevermind the fact that nothing is stopping them from one tapping the planet(Assuming they do it from Space like Vegeta/Frieza did when busting a planet). This is just bullying😭
quick and simple answer: Y E S It's not even a CLOSE matchup even someone as lowly as nappa could probably wipe viltrum off the face of the universe let alone frieza
For sure. Hell, Roshi could blow up the MOON and the average Frieza Soldier is four times stronger than OG and Z Roshi. If Roshi could blow up the moon, then characters like Raditz would manhandle most Viltrumites.
@@FlawlessWallace3350 because Piccolo destroyed the Earth’s Moon and there were no celestial and planetary consequences of it whatsoever. Because DBZ nonsense is not meant to be taken seriously.
Nappa: plus i heard they got some fine ladies, vegeta.... do you wanna get a mite wife vegeta? Vegeta: no nappa. Nappa: is it because y- Vegeta: I AM NOT A PRISON B####!!!!
It took 3 Viltrumites to destroy an already destabilising planet. Frieza did it on his own with one finger, in his first form, and it didn't even tire him out at all.
We're talking about a guy, that once shot a planet buster by himself, with minimal effort, base form...The same guy that can bomb a planet, minimal effort..base form as well, taking on these guys that cant even blow up an already collapsing planet by themselves?
@@notfex1427 i entirely forgot frieza transforms to supress his power. now to make it fair lets make it black frieza vs viltrum the equivelent of a coughing bomb vs hydrogen baby
Frieza? Yes 100%. Hell they wouldn't even make it past the Ginyu force. Guldo's time stop would mess them up so badly by itself. It took the Ginyu force messing around and Guldo hyperfixating on Gohan and Krillin for Vegeta to get a strike him with a killing blow. The viltrumites would have to get that lucky as well while dealing with the entire Ginyu force fighting together due to the number disadvantage. This fight isn't close to fair lmao. Great video.
5:25 Actually, Viltrumies do become stronger through constant training, combat, and surviving near fetal injuries. But only at a certain point during their early years, they don't get any stronger once they've reached their physical peak. Other than that, they definitely got nothing on Frieza.
@@TheRealRightPricethere is some proof that they can improve through pushing their body to the limits as omni man says that invincible can get faster by flying at max speed and pushing himself to his limits it is somewhat implied that they can improve through near death experiences. Because invincible does get stronger throughout the series and they do mention stuff like this in the comics.
@@leommemer8278 yes I know, those things are explicitly stated to be true. I'm calling OP out on claiming that they can only grow those ways during youth.
Imagine how embarrassed they’d be after being defeated by the ginyu force, im pretty sure only one of them is needed to take on the entire viltrumite race
Appule alone would dominate the species, turning Nolan, Conquest, and Thragg into his personal slaves while the rest of the dirt-level species serve the Frieza Force as housemaids.
@@caramelcandys The GINYU FORCE? Major overkill. The strongest Viltrumites are barely close to the regular soldiers of the Frieza Force, around Raditz level. Even then they'd lose. Raditz alone wipes the Viltrumites out of existence.
@@TimeToGetAGoodLife Raditz is only moon+ level though. He upscales from moon busting, but Viltrum was a small planet level feat for each. Raditz isn't beating a named Viltrumite, let alone soloing all of them. Even if it was moon level, plenty of other Viltrumites are more powerful and even stomp the trio that pulled it off, meaning he still wouldn't solo if it were a moon level feat
I’m a fan of invincible and dragon ball and we should all know the Viltrumites stand *ZER0 CHANCE* against Frieza. The Viltrumites would down right tremble in absolute fear once they see Frieza 1 shoting them with no effort.
@Bones12 *Wrecked a planet. That scene with him blitzing through a City was what was happening all over the planet pretty much. Nappa solos omniman. But he'd 100% struggle or be killed if he fought all of the remaining living Viltrumites. He solos a 1v1 tho. 1v10 is a different story
Interesting video, but even with Freeza supressing himself in his weakest form he's effortlessly annihilatiing them. Good job anyways, looking forward to new stuff.
Frieza can survive a point blank planet explosion he started to the face after getting split in half and kamehameha'ed. 3 viltrumites and space racer's gun were required to destroy a single planet, not blow it up but just break it open, and they could have died whilst doing so. 'nuff said
@@Keith_Norman even the entirety of Kimetsu No Yaiba couldn't approach a Dante who's unconscious, has no energy, has only his head and body, is weakened, has countless diseases and is blind and stupid. They would still all be vapourised instantly, accidentally. Dante literally has Hyperversal scaling and feats how dumb are those people, I like Kimetsu No Yaiba a lot but I'm not bloody biased and absolutely stupid as shit.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki no I was just making a comparison that there's going to be a lot of videos between powerful characters and weak ones besides some demon Slayer fans actually think the verse has a shot I've seen arguments for mha and Hunter x Hunter losing to them; can I use the term argument very loosely
@@Keith_Norman I know that you were?? I'm just shocked that there's brain-dead idiots who think that Kimetsu No Yaiba could ever do anything to verses that aren't your average slice of life comedy. It's ridiculous honestly. Honestly I think even the, The Boys verse could beat the Kimetsu No Yaiba verse. Even Lobotomy Kaisen could beat Kimetsu No Yaiba.
I know you probably wont see this, but the people bitching about you saying you could ha e answered this in 7 seconds or some shit, fuck em. I enjoyed it, and anyone else who wasnt versed in either of the animes probably found this very helpful. Keep it up! Love what youre doing
He literally could destroy the entire galaxy planet viltrumn is located inside of. It's like comparing an ant to a bird. Or as Frieza says: Your ants trying to fight a dinosaur.
I can imagine Frieza rolling up on Viltrum. And destroying the planet with ease. Then him coming to Earth next only to be killed by Spawn is pretty much how I'd picture it.
Something I’d like to note is characters from Invincible have this huge weakness where they literally splat whenever they hit anyone massively stronger than them. So like if they ever fought Frieza simply running into Frieza’s Ki Shield (which all Ki users have active constantly) would cause them to splat. Like Frieza’s Ki Shield would act like pseudo version of Gojo’s Infinity as no character would be able to get through it. Like EOS Mark would turn into mist before getting Frieza to move.
Hell, the splat factor is barely a thing in a DBZ, and Nail practically splatted his arm against base Frieza's neck. Anyone from Invincible would just splatter like bugs on a windshield if they tried hitting him. EDIT: My bad, I remembered it wrong. Nail karate-chopped Frieza's neck and he didn't even feel it. Frieza then proceeded to snap Nail's arm off because it was funny.
Yes. Frieza outclasses the Viltrumites by a massive margin. To be fair, the Viltrumites could handle lowly Frieza grunts, but aren’t getting past the upper echelons, and would get vaporized by Frieza in his first form.
Admittedly I’m not too familiar with Invincible scaling, but based of what I know even if we don’t consider Star level Freeza, he’s vastly above the average planet buster to the point he probably could one shot Viltrium
It would be fun to see the Ginyu Force take on planet Viltrum. Racoome alone would have a blast just taking on 100s of them at a time, although he might just grow bored after a while.
The explosion seemed to be more on the foreground of the show rather than simply covering stars. needless to say things look bigger when they're closer
Yes, there’s no discussion required, 5% of first form frieza would one shot the entire race. Honestly, raditz has an argument for taking out the vast majority of the race.
It’s like Goku Black’s quote: “Calling you the opening act is a weak metaphor. It’s much more like . . you’re just the appetizer. That’s right- a light introduction before I commence with the main course.”
It took 3 Viltrumites to destroy a planet, along with a blast attack that was fired to weaken the planet. Frieza destroys a planet with no effort in his weakest state
They.. they DO come back stronger from near death though. It's a pretty major storyline point that viltrimites get stronger from near death, to the point many compare them to saiyans for that very quirk. It wouldn't really change the outcome, regardless of how this is scaled, but it's worth noting.
@@OliverSierraWwe know he could, because frieza doesn’t train or grow any stronger since that time. his power in the namek saga is basically his power since birth, which is why he trains so little in between battles with goku. what takes goku years to become, frieza can progress in months. the thing that always sells him his being too cocky to actually work for it.
Frieza: "Hello monkeys"
Thragg: "what?"
Frieza: "Sorry force of habit"
*Blow everything up*
The viltrumites world still survive the explosion, but freiza still solos in final form
@AGR_678 yea 1 on 1 freiza solos anyone whos thrown at him, but the viltrum army doesnt mind jumping so freiza would prob need his final form to genuinky keep up with an entire army thats pushing 45+
@@marcanthonyclaivil6527
I don’t know, Freeza would probably have his scouter on him. So he would know if he needs to transform.
Given how much stronger he is compared to them, he probably wouldn’t need to transform. The jump between Star level and normal planet level is gigantic (Unless u don’t believe in Star level Freeza)
Even if he does transform, he probably wouldn’t need to go to his final form.
At BEST Frieza would need his second form
@@marcanthonyclaivil6527first form is star level so no
"The names recoome, it ryhmes with doom and I'm the one that put viltrum in its tomb"
-Recoome after soloing viltrumite
Lol
Wait was that an hfil reference
@@editp-be9hl TFS Namek saga, they made Recoome have a Wrestler type personality.
Chamge that last "doom" into "tomb"
Should have put tomb at the end instead of doom.
Coughing baby vs Hydrogen Bomb ahh match😭🙏
This is so fucking funny lmao 😂
8/10 funny but slightly overused
@@tiky7984slightly?
@@tiky7984 we rating comment now?
Coughing bomb vs Hydrogen baby
Yes... end of video. That's it no more need for discussion. Video should be like 5 seconds long max.
Gotta get that viewer retention up somehow...
Agreed
A short would be better
nah for real. what a ridiculous quesiton
Yes he would
What the fuck is this incredibly unfair mismatch? SAIYAN SAGA CHARACTERS could take down all of invincible, why do we need Frieza?
The anime version yes manga version no!
For the lol’s
Nah I'd say Og dB could probably get close.roshi destroyed a moon and he wasn't even The strongest there,goku at the end of original Db could most likely take on a small or normal planet..So I'd say it would be no Competition
Gone are the days of actually fair and interesting matchups
now its "guys i'm gonna pit this coughing baby with cancer that's missing both his arms and has one leg against a god of omega death i wonder who's gonna win guys??"
Curious George solos 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
Freeza pulling up to Viltrium after learning more about this ‘warrior race’
Freeza: I feel like we’ve been here before have we been here before
TFS comment 😂😂😂
Oh well. ( blows up planet Viltrum and takes thragg)
@@deborahheader6227
Freeza: Now for the important question…………….. what wine should I have for dinner tonight?
White wine?
Red wine?
Or dare I say…………Super Saiyan Rosé?
@@Senwa_Zenno Frieza: zarbon what wine do we have in stock on the ship?
Zarbon: we have a vending machine
Frieza: why do we have a vending machine if we already own the products.
@@deborahheader6227valid question for the emperor
Thrag: We are the invincible Viltrumite Empire.
Recoom: You brag about your empire. How you're the greatest warriors in alllll the universe. But guess where they'll be. DEAD!
You talk about your warrior race, and your, invincibility, and your pride. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN A DAMN THING TO THIS MAN!
Because the names, RECOOM, and it rhymes, WITH DOOM. And you're gonna be hurtin. ALL! TO! SOOOOOOOOON! (strikes ridiculous pose)
people always count veltrumites travel speed as their massively different combat speed. They can reach super high travel speeds because their smart atoms allow them to resist high friction and accelerate tremendously. but without time to accelerate their reaction and combat speed, they cannot even evade ki blasts from Frieza soldiers. it's like comparing a drag race car vs a track car. the 1st one can accelerate and reach higher speeds if given the opportunity but the track car is ultimately better at steering and handling tough curves.
thank you, was looking for this comment.
They still lose
Even if their travel speed was their combat speed cell saga tien scales to like 4 quidrillion times ftl while viltrumite travel speed is like 1.5 billion with a long run up 🤣
Isn't even a side quest for Frieza. More like waiting for your house to be upgraded in Animal Crossing.
Fr😂
Lowkey a loading screen minigame tbh
a tutorial at best
more like kicking over an anthill on the side of the road
Nah this a quick time event
Freieza's Finger > Viltrum
I can just envision Omni man flying towards Freeza at the top of his ship, throwing a punch only for Freeza to do what Jiren did to God Goku and block it with his finger while he’s charging his supernova
"I have more power in my thumb than you have in your entire race" ~ Freeza
(I hope someone gets this reference)
Zarbon : "Oooh, My...."
@@CerealExperimentsMizukiWhen you really think about it, Frieza's thumb could solo a lot of verses, like invincible for example
@@saltandgacha4583AYO
The average Frieza Soldier's power lvl is around 1300~, Frieza deadass could just throw an army of goons or Saibamen at Viltrum and it'd be over.
It's sad when a verse unironically gets solo'd by Raditz.
@@TimeToGetAGoodLife"thats right. Raditz is SO WEAK we Grow raditzes!" -tfs vegeta/nappa
Seeing planet jameson lose to raditz that can be grown is hilarious
The Saibamen aren't powerful enough to hurt Viltrumites though. While injured, they can still tear Earth in half when working together. That's massively above the Saibamen's paygrade
@@lucasbroome1048 piccolo pre training with a power level of 310 or something. could one tap the moon with one keyblast
a saibaman is as strong as raditz ( power level around 1200)
meaning theyd have the energy to at least blow up the moon 3x over ( not even accounting for the facts beams can be stronger than your power level) ( nor the fact that maybe picollo didnt use his all in that blast)
Also the viltrumite feat isnt consistent as 1 the planet was on the verge of collapse and
2 it required the 3 most powerful viltrumite working together sinchronized at ONCE. if their timing was fof by even a second they wouldnt have been able to pull it off.
You my good sir masivelly underestimate the power of a saibamen
"Lol frieza get speed blitz and one shot ,viltrums can travel galaxies in minutes"
-some Invincible fanboy
No
He's saying a fan boy would say that. He doesn't belive that
@@JayJohnson-ls3eqreading is fundamental 🤣
@@JayJohnson-ls3eq its been 3 months apologize or delete scrub
I feel like even Namek Saga frieza solos the entire planet.
The real question is how many fingers he would need to lift. The answer is zero because his henchmen could handle the job.
Literally any character in dragon ball with a power level equivalent to raditz is already a planet buster, the saiyan trio is already a match for the entire viltrumite empire alone
Thragg: Frieza, I have resurrected every Viltrumite in history and merged their strength with my own, creating the ultimate being! You have no chance!
Frieza: *Looks at him*.
Thragg: *Explodes*.
viltrumites are overated at this point i dont know why people think invincible characthers can stand up to anime manga or dc or eve marvel characthers
At this rate it's a similarly pitiable situation as the boys I think. Fans of each series wanna speculate on cross verse match ups like the rest of us, but not much of anyone in a similar genre is in the same ball park really.
Is it a good show there are arguments for universal invincible scaling but those are inconsistent
@Keith_Norman theres no universal scaling in Invincible
Viltrumites aren’t overrated, invincible characters are quite fairly rated for the most part
Still doesn’t change the fact that black freiza one taps the entire verse though
@@Kumo0toko There's a Supreme crossover where Omni-Man fights Mean Supreme, a guy who's equal to Suprema. Suprema is universal according to statements.
That's where Universal Invincible comes from.
It takes three of the strongest Viltrumites to destroy a destabilized planet, but one Frieza to vaporize a planet.
One "nerfed" frieza his ass on his throne and without even trying*
@@christopher8295 everything you said and with only 1 finger 😂
The fact Frieza was destroying planets in his bas form 20 plus years ago in dragon ball z ..
Imagine Frieza current black form 🤣 it's not even a show / match . Shouldn't even be a discussion even though it's all entertainment purposes..
@@midwestrebel2 bruh its like saying "Can an amoebe destroy the milky way". RIP
@@midwestrebel2 Not even base form, because he is willingly restricting himself to using only such a small amount of his real power.
It takes a already unstable planet and 3 very strong viltramites to destroy a planet
Freezia in his weakest state, did it with ease
Edit: all the replies are just saying how fucking powerful Frieza is, not that I mind:)
Edit 2: How the hell is this still going on? I'm impressed(if you see this, just a reminder that it took 3 viltramites, 1 infinity gun, and a already unstable planet to do a feat a super weak version of freezia did with a single finger. AND THAT PLANET VEGETA WAS PROBABLY BIGGER THAN THAT PLANET*
Absolutely
He destroyed a planet 10x bigger and denser than Earth with a single finger, while supressed, while in his weakest form.
and thats a z frieza, currently one of the weakest characters in db
@@ShadowDante7 why'd you'd have to remind me that Yor Forger existed.
@@ShadowDante7 quite the opposite actually, I absolutely love Yor Forger, she's incredibly beautiful and has such an amazing personality and she's so sweet yet so strong and dangerous, like she could literally cut my balls off and deep fry them extra crispy.
And in another Timeline, somewhere inside some random Macrocosm out of the Infinite that cover the Macrocasim, she's my loving wife and we've been married for 15 Years. Such a happy and wonderful relationship with such a beautiful and amazing woman.
Anya doesn't exist though we have another Two children, Two guys named John and Siegfried Forger although John recently sold his soul to Demons and became a powerful magician and married a girl named Zatanna. He'd honestly be at least a small percentage my power with his Synchronicity Wave alone, easily High Outerversal and rivalling even my own Nexus.
“Can the Sun defeat an ant colony?”
First we should talk about the number of ants that the sun faces, if we took the entire population of ants to bring the ant empire in its prime we have a population of around 20 billion.
The resistance of ants allows them to be thrown from a building and survive without a scratch.
While the sun has 0 Stamina, 0 speed and 0 strenght, so in a hand to hand battle Ants won but
Could the ants win against sun Phase 2? Probably not, but they would be a worthy opponent for the sun
@@Stff1561 You are forgetting the sun's special ability where any living beings would get burnt alive along with getting radiation if they do not have a protective suit.
if the ants were to attack the sun they would get vaporized if they get too close.
But ants happen to be really smart so they would discover about this ability and try other methods of damaging the sun
@@ManyNames Also don't forget the adaptability of ants, over time they would be able to adapt to the sun, while they are also allies of the Brazilian treehoper (Mahoraga) so that's a point for the ants
@@Stff1561ants won't be able to adapt if they are all destroyed.
@@Stff1561You forget about the suns feat of defeating coughing baby which the ants cant do.
The Viltrum elite should be a decent match for the nervous impulses of Frieza wondering what's for dinner tonight
Thragg sweating if the Saiyan trio appear. Let alone Frieza.
Nah if King Piccolo appears
They will kinda win since they can breath in space while Saiyans can't
@@brothsipper-h5o Legit Monster Carrot from og Dragon Ball could solo them.
@@RedLights9000-f3lNeither can Viltrumites. They just hold their breath for really long.
@@WebbedManiac bro they can spend weeks without oxygen Saiyans will be dead lol
Frieza blinks the verse is gone 😭🙏
In base
The glazing is outrageous
@@DevoTheMev0When you think about it Frieza has laser eyes or ki eye blast I don't know what it is called
@@DevoTheMev0what glaze lil bro,frieza literally have an blinking attack
@@ermikaandrian8815 If I remember correctly, he obliterated an entire mountain range with his eyes
Don't get me wrong, I like putting characters against different verses to fight but that's when they are relatively close and are capable of hurting one another. Frieza could sneeze and wipe them all out. Like their best option for HURTING him is all of them flying at max speed and ramming into Frieza while he's off-guard or something.
Nah we've already seen what happens if viltrimites crash into someone stronger then them they literally explode
@@D-class9341 yeah but in Dragon Ball it's been shown that if someone is off-guard, weaker attacks can harm them or even kill.
@@judie6727 The "Off-Guard" thing is mostly a tool of the plot to spice things up, without a specific goal in mind other than having frieza vs viltrum , it's a wash fr
@@judie6727 why would freiza purposely lower his ki to that level
@@D-class9341 I did say when he's off-guard lmao, like when he's sleeping or something. Also this is Frieza, him not going at them full power just because he looks down at them is very in character.
Frieza : "Looks like this Empire is under new management. Ohohohoho! "
Viltrumites are just watered-down Saiyans, even their strongest hypothetical warriors like 1000 years time skip Invincible would get slapped around by DBZ Frieza, end of story
Bro even Zarbon and Dodoria can solo Viltrum. Cui can do it too-
To be fair the stronger vilitrimites like Thragg are probably at about this level, Frieza though hell no
@@robainsworth2014 stronger viltrumites don't even scale to planet, Vegeta scales to large planet in the saiyan saga Dodoria, Zarbon, and debatably Cui all dominate saiyan saga vegeta.
@@xeratovildan9871 The only advantage Vultrumites have is generally speed. But even without dwarf star level calcs for Frieza(Or hell, even Vegeta) those evil side kick level characters just have too much of a power differential to overcome. Nevermind the fact that nothing is stopping them from one tapping the planet(Assuming they do it from Space like Vegeta/Frieza did when busting a planet). This is just bullying😭
Agree
Hell, even old king piccolo could beat the majority of the Viltrumites with low to mid diff
quick and simple answer: Y E S
It's not even a CLOSE matchup even someone as lowly as nappa could probably wipe viltrum off the face of the universe let alone frieza
Two Saibamens is enough for all of them
@@pfpstealer not really
@@TheGreatPapyrusNYEHEHEH yes really. 100 powerlevel is all you need to destroy a planet in DB. Saibamen at 1500 - 2000? 😂
Frieza force's weakest members are already planet busters, that shouldn't be a question anymore😂
For sure. Hell, Roshi could blow up the MOON and the average Frieza Soldier is four times stronger than OG and Z Roshi. If Roshi could blow up the moon, then characters like Raditz would manhandle most Viltrumites.
That just tells you how weak the planets are in their universe. The DBZ universe really is made out of wet cardboard.
@@superbrian7997why would planet busting beings imply planets are not as durable as you know actual planets?
@@FlawlessWallace3350 because Piccolo destroyed the Earth’s Moon and there were no celestial and planetary consequences of it whatsoever. Because DBZ nonsense is not meant to be taken seriously.
@@superbrian7997lmao bro is bitter lol, viltrumite are fodder, nothing more.
Nappa: Hey vegeta..
Vegeta: What nappa ...
Nappa: can we go to viltrum
Vegeta: why?
Nappa: because i want a god warmup vegeeeta
Vegeta: fine
Nappa: plus i heard they got some fine ladies, vegeta.... do you wanna get a mite wife vegeta?
Vegeta: no nappa.
Nappa: is it because y-
Vegeta: I AM NOT A PRISON B####!!!!
@@Mr.Anonymous342 *Coughs* Yes You are with that Yee Yee Ahh Haircut
Could he?
Yes, easily.
Should he?
Absolutely. Lots of tech and maybe a few new warriors for his empire.
Would he: DUH. HES FRIEZA. BRO WOULD DO IT FOR FUN
@@deborahheader6227Yeah he would I mean why else is he labeled as slave owner frieza
@@bryansantos9979 when was he labeled that
@@deborahheader6227 don't remember but he was labeled that but it fits him
@@bryansantos9979 makes sense. I mean. Frieza: MONKEY
It took 3 Viltrumites to destroy an already destabilising planet. Frieza did it on his own with one finger, in his first form, and it didn't even tire him out at all.
The best part about freeza's transformations is they're not transformations, they're reversions.
We're talking about a guy, that once shot a planet buster by himself, with minimal effort, base form...The same guy that can bomb a planet, minimal effort..base form as well, taking on these guys that cant even blow up an already collapsing planet by themselves?
And don’t forget, he transformed only to suppress his power. His base form is actually is final form lol
@@therakai7933, that's what am saying, like this shit isn't even close, not even by a zectosecond
@@notfex1427 i entirely forgot frieza transforms to supress his power. now to make it fair lets make it black frieza vs viltrum the equivelent of a coughing bomb vs hydrogen baby
1:57 100% accurate King Kai impression
Frieza? Yes 100%.
Hell they wouldn't even make it past the Ginyu force. Guldo's time stop would mess them up so badly by itself. It took the Ginyu force messing around and Guldo hyperfixating on Gohan and Krillin for Vegeta to get a strike him with a killing blow. The viltrumites would have to get that lucky as well while dealing with the entire Ginyu force fighting together due to the number disadvantage.
This fight isn't close to fair lmao. Great video.
5:25 Actually, Viltrumies do become stronger through constant training, combat, and surviving near fetal injuries. But only at a certain point during their early years, they don't get any stronger once they've reached their physical peak. Other than that, they definitely got nothing on Frieza.
This is an entirely non-canon claim. There's nothing in the Invincible comic series to even suggest this.
@@TheRealRightPricethere is some proof that they can improve through pushing their body to the limits as omni man says that invincible can get faster by flying at max speed and pushing himself to his limits
it is somewhat implied that they can improve through near death experiences. Because invincible does get stronger throughout the series and they do mention stuff like this in the comics.
@@leommemer8278 yes I know, those things are explicitly stated to be true. I'm calling OP out on claiming that they can only grow those ways during youth.
Was that not Barry or alen you know the alien?
Well he is literally THE saiyan of invincible mtf pulls massive zenkai boost
@@aitorchul2262Barry or Allen you say? 🤔
Frieza's goons >>> entire invincible verse.
aye boss what's the plan
naaa lets leave Cui out of this. He deserves his rest. AHAHAh
It be magnificent to see them have their egos completely broken in their so-called superiority shattered by insert random fruit minion here
Imagine how embarrassed they’d be after being defeated by the ginyu force, im pretty sure only one of them is needed to take on the entire viltrumite race
Appule alone would dominate the species, turning Nolan, Conquest, and Thragg into his personal slaves while the rest of the dirt-level species serve the Frieza Force as housemaids.
@@caramelcandys The GINYU FORCE? Major overkill. The strongest Viltrumites are barely close to the regular soldiers of the Frieza Force, around Raditz level. Even then they'd lose. Raditz alone wipes the Viltrumites out of existence.
Reminder a saibaman solos the invincible verse
@@TimeToGetAGoodLife Raditz is only moon+ level though. He upscales from moon busting, but Viltrum was a small planet level feat for each. Raditz isn't beating a named Viltrumite, let alone soloing all of them. Even if it was moon level, plenty of other Viltrumites are more powerful and even stomp the trio that pulled it off, meaning he still wouldn't solo if it were a moon level feat
I’m a fan of invincible and dragon ball and we should all know the Viltrumites stand *ZER0 CHANCE* against Frieza.
The Viltrumites would down right tremble in absolute fear once they see Frieza 1 shoting them with no effort.
The question isn’t could they could beat frieza, the question is how many seconds they can last against him
*correction* how many mili secs?
2
He wouldn’t even need to invade viltrum, he’d just blow it up instantly for blocking his view in space😂
“Can saiyan saga Krillin beat Frieza?” Is basically the viltrumite empire vs Frieza.
A more interesting scenario would've been "Could Vegeta, Nappa and Raditz conquer Viltrum?"
I don’t think vegeta would even need to be involved, nappa and raditz themselves could probably take them and win
Omni man wrecked a city
Nappa leveled a city by lifting two fingers.
Nappa solos
@Bones12
*Wrecked a planet.
That scene with him blitzing through a City was what was happening all over the planet pretty much.
Nappa solos omniman. But he'd 100% struggle or be killed if he fought all of the remaining living Viltrumites. He solos a 1v1 tho. 1v10 is a different story
They would
End.
@@mralexander4209Doesn’t matter the weakest dbz characters destroy them
basically it's like how omni man destroyed that alien conquerer world in season 1 except it's frieza on viltrum
Interesting video, but even with Freeza supressing himself in his weakest form he's effortlessly annihilatiing them. Good job anyways, looking forward to new stuff.
Frieza can survive a point blank planet explosion he started to the face after getting split in half and kamehameha'ed. 3 viltrumites and space racer's gun were required to destroy a single planet, not blow it up but just break it open, and they could have died whilst doing so. 'nuff said
Frieza could just stand there taking everything without fighting back until all viltrumtes die of old age. He'd be scratchless.
The titles of these videos always make me laugh
All frieza needs to do is accidentally sneeze and BOOM Viltrum is gone
The answer is yes, why are you doing incredibly unfair matchups?
I've seen demon Slayer vs Dante this isn't even unfair because at least they can semi keep up with speed
hey its not that bad man if they really really try they might even get frieza to leave his seat!
@@Keith_Norman even the entirety of Kimetsu No Yaiba couldn't approach a Dante who's unconscious, has no energy, has only his head and body, is weakened, has countless diseases and is blind and stupid. They would still all be vapourised instantly, accidentally.
Dante literally has Hyperversal scaling and feats how dumb are those people, I like Kimetsu No Yaiba a lot but I'm not bloody biased and absolutely stupid as shit.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki no I was just making a comparison that there's going to be a lot of videos between powerful characters and weak ones besides some demon Slayer fans actually think the verse has a shot I've seen arguments for mha and Hunter x Hunter losing to them; can I use the term argument very loosely
@@Keith_Norman I know that you were?? I'm just shocked that there's brain-dead idiots who think that Kimetsu No Yaiba could ever do anything to verses that aren't your average slice of life comedy. It's ridiculous honestly. Honestly I think even the, The Boys verse could beat the Kimetsu No Yaiba verse. Even Lobotomy Kaisen could beat Kimetsu No Yaiba.
“Zarbon Dodoria look at those beautiful fireworks”
" Greetings, noble warriors from Viltr-whatever. I, lord Frieza claim this world as my own. Cheer for me or face annihilation "
*Yes* and Frieza gets the replace for Saiyans he always wanted!
He'd be able to actually control them way waaay easier then the sayins but they are no where near as strong as them
He would play with them, enslave them, then when he gets bored or realizes they are weaker than most of his soldiers he woulf supermova them
fun fact saiyans never really trained, their training was fighting with other planets. Imagine if they trained daily😮
I know you probably wont see this, but the people bitching about you saying you could ha e answered this in 7 seconds or some shit, fuck em. I enjoyed it, and anyone else who wasnt versed in either of the animes probably found this very helpful. Keep it up! Love what youre doing
It was a rough day but atleast we get to see a video from the goat Tylearned.
Happy to make your day bro
Frieza just sends The Ginyu Force there and it’s handled.
Better question. Bardock vs Omni-Man
Bardock fkn solo's😂
The farmer with the shot gun can easily solo all invincible characters.
This guy had the best take with a Choppa pfp W
Frieza: Hmm, your reminding me of Viltrumites
Random Alien: The what?
Frieza: Funny i'm expecting the next race to say the same thing about you
Can't believe A small amount of Invincible fans say That the weakest viltrumites are Comparable to Namek goku. Or are they trolling?
He literally could destroy the entire galaxy planet viltrumn is located inside of. It's like comparing an ant to a bird.
Or as Frieza says:
Your ants trying to fight a dinosaur.
Honestly you just need Zarbon, Dodoria and Kiwi to get this job done lol
I literally just envisioned Dodoria and Zarbon pulling up with a Kiwi, the literal Bird Kiwi, and just like "Go, do a crime"
Literally raditz is enough
Thragg having to go all out, take out all the stops, fight as hard as he possibly could to duke it out with-... Appule.
Go Appule Go!.
They are all Demon king piccolo victims bro
Frieza be conquering whats left of them in 2 seconds flat
You put Kid Gohan on Viltrum and he’s probably coming out unscathed
Long answer: Yes
Short Answer: Yes
I can imagine Frieza rolling up on Viltrum. And destroying the planet with ease. Then him coming to Earth next only to be killed by Spawn is pretty much how I'd picture it.
Their Viltrumite asses will start farting from fear if Frieza shows up on their planet
Fr dude😂
Something I’d like to note is characters from Invincible have this huge weakness where they literally splat whenever they hit anyone massively stronger than them. So like if they ever fought Frieza simply running into Frieza’s Ki Shield (which all Ki users have active constantly) would cause them to splat. Like Frieza’s Ki Shield would act like pseudo version of Gojo’s Infinity as no character would be able to get through it. Like EOS Mark would turn into mist before getting Frieza to move.
Hell, the splat factor is barely a thing in a DBZ, and Nail practically splatted his arm against base Frieza's neck. Anyone from Invincible would just splatter like bugs on a windshield if they tried hitting him.
EDIT: My bad, I remembered it wrong. Nail karate-chopped Frieza's neck and he didn't even feel it. Frieza then proceeded to snap Nail's arm off because it was funny.
Bro GULDO could do it. That's all Frieza needs.
The thumbnail alone answers the question, there was no need to click on the video itself.
Yes. Frieza outclasses the Viltrumites by a massive margin. To be fair, the Viltrumites could handle lowly Frieza grunts, but aren’t getting past the upper echelons, and would get vaporized by Frieza in his first form.
Bro, Saiyan Saga Nappa and Vegeta would've been enough, Frieza is overkill 😭
Admittedly I’m not too familiar with Invincible scaling, but based of what I know even if we don’t consider Star level Freeza, he’s vastly above the average planet buster to the point he probably could one shot Viltrium
Thragg: get off my planet!! *breaks every bone in his arm trying to punch him*
Frieza: Ohh-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho. Congratulations. You're the new Tagoma.
A better fight would be Vegeta,Nappa,Raditz, and some Saibamen vs the Viltrumite empire.
Nah just raditz would be over kill
@@kau123BROLYthe viltrumites are getting raped by a single saibaman 😭
Raditz literally solos the verse
It would be fun to see the Ginyu Force take on planet Viltrum. Racoome alone would have a blast just taking on 100s of them at a time, although he might just grow bored after a while.
I think Saiyan Saga Vegeta is enough to defeat the Invincible verse lol.
og dragon ball master roshi doing a kamehameha
The explosion seemed to be more on the foreground of the show rather than simply covering stars. needless to say things look bigger when they're closer
Yes, there’s no discussion required, 5% of first form frieza would one shot the entire race. Honestly, raditz has an argument for taking out the vast majority of the race.
It’s like Goku Black’s quote:
“Calling you the opening act is a weak metaphor. It’s much more like . . you’re just the appetizer. That’s right- a light introduction before I commence with the main course.”
Unless the legendary super viltrumite appears viltrum meets the same fate as the saiyans lol
Viltrumites could have been one of Freeza’s many genocides. Literally a day trip
It took 3 Viltrumites to destroy a planet, along with a blast attack that was fired to weaken the planet. Frieza destroys a planet with no effort in his weakest state
Frieza: *coughs*
The entire Viltum Empire experiencing exactly how the Dinosaurs got wiped out:
Saiyan Saga First Form Frieza with one finger or just his exhalation of breath would solo the entire Viltrum species.
Thraggs famous last words: "What, just 5 of them?"
Frieza:"its morbin time😈"
Frieza has scaled higher than Viltrumites since his introduction. Forget gold and black.
7:20 it is a random side quest on a wensday to him
They.. they DO come back stronger from near death though. It's a pretty major storyline point that viltrimites get stronger from near death, to the point many compare them to saiyans for that very quirk. It wouldn't really change the outcome, regardless of how this is scaled, but it's worth noting.
Viltrum about to become Planet Vegeta 2.0
Conquering them is basically deleting a file in your phone.
Bardock could take out Viltrum by himself
I always think we always undermine the fact that those 3 viltrumites used their bodies to destroy a planet 😂
3 of the strongest ones lol
Z first form freeza is enough.
i remember seeing a fic precisely about this , it begins right after the tournament of power and frezzer ends all viltrumites in about 2 hours
Damn, he must've been easy on them if it took two hours.
Frieza saga frieza? Yes. Ressurected Frieza? DUH
tbh kid frieza from dbs broly could probably do it
@@OliverSierraWwe know he could, because frieza doesn’t train or grow any stronger since that time. his power in the namek saga is basically his power since birth, which is why he trains so little in between battles with goku. what takes goku years to become, frieza can progress in months. the thing that always sells him his being too cocky to actually work for it.
@@z4y_w467 I mean, I imagine he got stronger as he aged naturally, but yeah
@@z4y_w467
then toriyama's final approval for freeza was to make him train for 10 years, lol.
Hey, that might be a fair match up - the Gunyu force vs. ALL the viltriumites.
First form frieza literally negs the entire verse bro 😭😭😭
Yes, I didn’t even watch the ad before the video, just yes nothing more to say