Could Frieza Defeat the Sith? | Dragonball vs Star Wars

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  • @ChaseWade-ii7nr
    @ChaseWade-ii7nr ปีที่แล้ว +5159

    The difference between Darth Vader and Frieza is Vader can punch a board and it will break in half. Frieza can punch a board and wipe out its entire race.

    • @eggmemer7007
      @eggmemer7007 ปีที่แล้ว +549

      “But can he block?”

    • @pyktukasplays4945
      @pyktukasplays4945 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      Nice reference

    • @tchoythao5579
      @tchoythao5579 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@eggmemer7007 you mean dodge

    • @tentensquared
      @tentensquared ปีที่แล้ว +107

      @@tchoythao5579No, the quote was block.

    • @DiscusvissenRocken
      @DiscusvissenRocken ปีที่แล้ว +147

      And then Vader will meet General Mountain....

  • @Sokhele
    @Sokhele ปีที่แล้ว +1844

    If Ginyu took Vaders body he’d immediately regret it

    • @Testiclopps
      @Testiclopps ปีที่แล้ว +55

      fr

    • @inkchariot6147
      @inkchariot6147 ปีที่แล้ว +271

      Anakin: No takebacks!

    • @Kakarot64.
      @Kakarot64. ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Don't think the body change technique has ever been used on someone wearing a helmet that covered their face so it might not even work on Vader anyway.

    • @prometheusmodelow8322
      @prometheusmodelow8322 ปีที่แล้ว +119

      @@Kakarot64. Or maybe the beam would break the helmet making Ginyu suffocate right after taking the body lol.

    • @DiscusvissenRocken
      @DiscusvissenRocken ปีที่แล้ว +110

      Ginyu ain't stupid. He would go for Sidious instead. So many people forget Ginyu is a tactical genius hence why Frieza respects him as a good soldier and his true 2nd man

  • @ghostofentity3032
    @ghostofentity3032 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    My guy, Frieza literally survived a planet exploding with half his body missing

    • @pyktukasplays4945
      @pyktukasplays4945 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      And he was heavily beat before that. And the explosion was so big it could be seen from outside the galaxy in the anime.

    • @kongzillatoho4558
      @kongzillatoho4558 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      And the other half of his body was only destroyed by Goku

    • @Alsonameholder
      @Alsonameholder 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      And dont forget, he was still alive while floating in space. And when he was brought back to life, it all but confirmed that Trunks only killed him when he blasted him and destroyed him completely. He was still alive as little chunks

    • @PewPewShootEmUp
      @PewPewShootEmUp หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      No he was dead when sliced up. Shenron said he could bring him back to life but only in thr chunks. ​@@Alsonameholder

  • @holty1314
    @holty1314 ปีที่แล้ว +1219

    Rebels: “Thank you! Thank you! [Freeza] has freed us!”
    Freeza: “I wouldn’t say freed! More like under new management!”

    • @uhhidk5474
      @uhhidk5474 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      (Death beam one of the rebels)

    • @tahatale8208
      @tahatale8208 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Gotta love the megamind reference.

    • @shootercinema8577
      @shootercinema8577 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Facts

    • @starkiller169
      @starkiller169 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I don't know If this works man The rebels were never under management of the empire

    • @thebugattichiron4k4
      @thebugattichiron4k4 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Frieza's army armor would look great on the rebels

  • @rorymcnamara1
    @rorymcnamara1 ปีที่แล้ว +2939

    In terms of DB power, the Sith would be the kind of enemy Frieza would have sent Kid Vegeta to wipe out.

  • @krraika1847
    @krraika1847 ปีที่แล้ว +661

    Considering Frieza can destroy an entire planet with a flick of his finger while Palpatine and Vader needed a giant moon-sized laser, it's pretty clear who could win.

    • @RipOffProductionsLLC
      @RipOffProductionsLLC ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't underestimate the bullshit "science" the galaxy far far away can pull out it's ass.
      They made a vaccine for the Rakgule disease, which is literally a work of Darkside Sorcery, not an actual illness...
      While I agree that a straight up brawl goes to Freeza 100%, Palpatine is a sneaky bastard who knows how to play the long game if he has too...

    • @VillainousToaster
      @VillainousToaster ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Now if we consider abeloth z frieza gets completely screwed over

    • @krraika1847
      @krraika1847 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@VillainousToaster Dunno about that seeing how Abeloth still lost to Luke and Krayt. Yes, she has great powers and could manipulate minds from the Maw, but I don't think Frieza is exactly feeble minded, as arrogant as he is. If anything, it might be more of a tie (and that's if you include Frieza's 4th form--if you include Golden or even Black Frieza, then it's Frieza's win).

    • @VillainousToaster
      @VillainousToaster ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@krraika1847 yes but I did say z frieza and not super Frieza because then nothing in sw stands a chancem

    • @krraika1847
      @krraika1847 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VillainousToaster I agree. Just saying it might be a tie between Z Frieza and Abeloth. If Super Frieza is involved, then he wins.

  • @MegaMrAlexis
    @MegaMrAlexis ปีที่แล้ว +1554

    Frieza by himself could defeat the entire galactic empire by himself
    And could easily tank a death star beam

    • @willclark4449
      @willclark4449 ปีที่แล้ว +242

      yea this is pretty stupid XD. its like saying could a T-rex kill a single ant. Lawl. Fucking Yamcha in the sayain saga could defeat the empire.

    • @MegaMrAlexis
      @MegaMrAlexis ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @willclark4449 exactly
      A freaking sibaman could take not only the empire but the rebels too without breaking a sweat

    • @willclark4449
      @willclark4449 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      @@MegaMrAlexis all nappa has to do is lift those two fingers and its KO XD

    • @danteshollowedgrounds
      @danteshollowedgrounds ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@willclark4449 gotta get dem views :P

    • @earlkatotruitt-ee5xk
      @earlkatotruitt-ee5xk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hell yeah this shut wut the fuc

  • @SupercharizardEx
    @SupercharizardEx ปีที่แล้ว +2068

    So... there is a big issue with the calculations in this video regarding Frieza. You have to remember that when Frieza blew up Planet Vegeta, he was suppressing himself massively. He was only in his first form, which only has a power level of 530,000. Keep in mind that only a power level of 10,000 is required to blow up a planet according to most guides. In comparison to his final form, Frieza has a power level of around 120 Million during the Planet Namek Saga at 100%. That is around 226 times more powerful than his first form's level of power and 12,000 times enough power to destroy a planet. To be honest, this isn't even a contest. Frieza would sooner die from laughter than the Galactic Empire even laying a scratch on him.

    • @alexgrissom7251
      @alexgrissom7251 ปีที่แล้ว +302

      I would also add that Frieze could just blow up the whole empire if he wanted to in a instant.. So his army wouldn't even been needed.

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  ปีที่แล้ว +290

      That’s why I said he’s star level.

    • @SupercharizardEx
      @SupercharizardEx ปีที่แล้ว +88

      @@lonkstakes Edit: These calculations in this comment are wrong. Check below for details.
      The Sun in our solar system is close to 100 times larger than the Earth (according to Google). So if we were to take that into consideration Frieza would have enough power to blow up a star 120 times over. I don't know where that places him in terms of power, but it is pretty ridiculous at the end of the day.

    • @fulsted7167
      @fulsted7167 ปีที่แล้ว +191

      @@SupercharizardEx No, the sun is 330,000x more massive than Earth. That was not a credible source.

    • @SupercharizardEx
      @SupercharizardEx ปีที่แล้ว +105

      @@fulsted7167 My apologies, you're right. The source was credible, but I misread it. Apparently, the Sun's diameter is 109 times larger than that of the Earth. Volume on the other hand is 330,000 times larger. However, Frieza really only needs to be able to cut through the core of the sun until it explodes, which would be at the Sun's radius. If that is the case, he would need to burrow through 54.5 Earths to reach the core. Therefore, after scaling it would require approximately a power level of 545,000 to blow up the sun assuming it took a power level of 10,000 to destroy the Earth. 120 Million divided by 545,000 equals about 220 times that the sun could be extinguished. Feel free to correct me if I am missing something here.

  • @travisdunlap4526
    @travisdunlap4526 ปีที่แล้ว +393

    I laughed during the conclusions when they were saying "Palpatine and Vader are relatively equal to Frieza". I mean I don't think I've ever seen Palpatine casually destroy a planet with the wave of his hand, and Frieza couldn't probably do that to a solar system at this point. The difference is so ridiculously high its comical.

    • @some_shitposting_idiot3023
      @some_shitposting_idiot3023 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      King vegeta destroyed 3 planets with a wave of his hand frieza in first form is over 50 times stronger lmao

    • @t-masterrules5085
      @t-masterrules5085 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      Like, you don't have to be a genius to know the difference. One uses weapons to fight, the other is a living weapon. One needed a lot of time and resources to construct a planet bursting device, the other is casually a planet burster. One lost his body to a volcano, the other will casually swim in it. One needs light sabers to deflect blaster bolts, the other will casually avoid it with his reaction speeds
      How is this even close.

    • @mitchtherevolution
      @mitchtherevolution ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@t-masterrules5085
      Apparently, hardcore Star Wars fans are much fucking dumber than I imagined was even possible.
      The people arguing in the comments section against Dragon Ball is absurd.
      Goku punched a Rabbit to the moon when he was 12, can Vader even fucking fly?

    • @ilyte1
      @ilyte1 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Frieza at full power (also namek super Saiyan Goku) are roughly at star level meaning they could blow up a star. Still technically below solar system level but way above anything Star wars characters have

    • @codymunoz1561
      @codymunoz1561 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sooooo you've only ever watched the movies and don't actually know anything about the characters.....

  • @angelfall4164
    @angelfall4164 ปีที่แล้ว +506

    They need a death star to destroy a planet. Frieza just needs his finger to destroy one

    • @abstraction6212
      @abstraction6212 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sidious has force storm to swallow enviornment

    • @coreywigent7693
      @coreywigent7693 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      ​@@abstraction6212true but Frieza is way more durable and Sidious is not. One hit From Frieza and he's dead.

    • @DiscusvissenRocken
      @DiscusvissenRocken ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Exactly. Frieza survived a planet exploding while being sliced in half and hit by a Super Saiyan blast. Vader would already die from a jolt of lightning which Frieza can generate by just unleashing his power. And Sidious couldn't even stop Yoda returning a senate platform to him, and Frieza could throw entire mountains with his telekinesis without even trying, so i do not see him stopping that.

    • @painvillegaming4119
      @painvillegaming4119 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@abstraction6212but can he survive getting the Jesus beating out of you by a super saying getting slashed in half hit with a ki blast and the planet blowing up in your face

    • @8Smoker8
      @8Smoker8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@abstraction6212 shhh stop, stop, just stop. Your argument is too insane to be dignified with an actual answer. Just stop.

  • @darthsidious4274
    @darthsidious4274 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Frieza and Palpetine would be sipping that expensive space wine, while Vader suffers in some corner.

  • @akale2620
    @akale2620 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Frieza looks at the DeathStar.
    Laughs maniacally.
    Look What They Need to Mimic a Fraction of MY Power

    • @ComicBooksandVideoGameNerd96
      @ComicBooksandVideoGameNerd96 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Actually, I think it was the other way around because Star Wars 1977 did technically come first, and Dragon Ball 1984 but whatever that's beside the point, I mean frieza can blow up a planet without a space station may I remind you he didn't have to transform you he did it

  • @sametsahin6863
    @sametsahin6863 ปีที่แล้ว +709

    When the sith lords are said to be more powerfull than the death star or when Vader says " the power to destroy a planet is insignificant" he refers to the fact that death star is simply a big pew pew gun while the force and the sith lords can be much more flexible and be used more effectively

    • @kj12351
      @kj12351 ปีที่แล้ว +190

      Yeah i agree. It's a massive ass pull to say anyone in star wars has planet busting powers, when some big creatures can give Vader a run for his money. They would not be able to survive a hit from even Raditzs.

    • @OldManInternet
      @OldManInternet ปีที่แล้ว +73

      For sure. This was a nuanced comment about relative value, not a comparison of raw destructive force.

    • @sametsahin6863
      @sametsahin6863 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@OldManInternet I am happy many agree with me and have good english

    • @bliskin8847
      @bliskin8847 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Even after Vader says that, a General calls him out on his Bull Shit, and Vader’s only comeback was choking the guy.

    • @PearMan103
      @PearMan103 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They can life steal entire planets tho.

  • @KaiserMattTygore927
    @KaiserMattTygore927 ปีที่แล้ว +368

    I feel like the Sith were super-high balled.
    We just don't have the feats for Vader and *_The Senate_* to truly scale them to anywhere near even first form frieza. Even Palpatine's greatest showcase of power during his duel with Yoda in RotS he was still not anywhere near the absurd levels of strength displayed by Frieza.
    It's also heavily implied that Vader's powers even if they are comparable or even surpass Palpatine's own, are suppressed by the suit and the damage he took during the duel on mustafar.

    • @magnetic9089
      @magnetic9089 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      If legends was brought in he would be scrapping with dbs frieza not black Frieza tho

    • @jazazo4956
      @jazazo4956 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      @@magnetic9089 hell no. Vader’s best feat not even planetary in legends. And palps can make giant force storms lame asf

    • @diegomeinie9472
      @diegomeinie9472 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@jazazo4956 that storm is 5D.

    • @pyktukasplays4945
      @pyktukasplays4945 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@diegomeinie9472 still doesn't reach planetary levels.

    • @diegomeinie9472
      @diegomeinie9472 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pyktukasplays4945 they actually are.

  • @varajalka
    @varajalka ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Vader does says " the power to destroy a planet is insignificant compared to the power of the force", but I cant say I remember Vader ever force chocking a planet to death. Frieza on the other hand has destroyed multiple planets alone and can survive in the vacuum of space and even when cut to bits. I feel that in a battle between those two Vader gets vaporised before the two ever even meet face to face, because Frieza would just blast any ship showing hostility towards him.

    • @komaristudios2863
      @komaristudios2863 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Why do I imagine Vador Squeezing a planet like a orange when he trys to choke it lol but ya

  • @HoytJolly
    @HoytJolly ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I think when Vader was talking about the power of the force, he was referring to how it held the galaxy together, not his personal ability to control it. Also, I think that the references to dark Sith as "powerful weapons" is referring to their ability to intimidate and command. As an old Star Wars fan I do like how you logically justify the battle as being virtually inconclusive. That put a smile on my face lol.

  • @doolallyproductions7234
    @doolallyproductions7234 ปีที่แล้ว +221

    The freeza force is literally full of raditzs and saibamen and each one can destroy a small planet by them selfs

    • @DiscusvissenRocken
      @DiscusvissenRocken ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Just Zarbon and Dodoria would be enough to wipe out the entire storm trooper army by themselves

    • @Lynn.-_-.
      @Lynn.-_-. ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@DiscusvissenRocken bro even an Yamcha can do that

    • @Nameless8_
      @Nameless8_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Themselves*

    • @R.Williamss
      @R.Williamss 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's right Raditz can whip out the empire

    • @BrandonScott-mi5pz
      @BrandonScott-mi5pz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      AWESOME! LONK'S TAKES

  • @juliusbossman7280
    @juliusbossman7280 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Zarbon: Lord Frieza, there is a Galactic Empire that took one of your planets. What should we-
    Frieza: Send Nappa out.

    • @unknownguy-c3c
      @unknownguy-c3c 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That's overkill send that random mining soldier

    • @Jeffrey18O
      @Jeffrey18O 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nappa: Hey Vegeta...I destroyed a Galactic Empire
      Vegeta: Shut up Nappa

  • @NotTheWheel
    @NotTheWheel ปีที่แล้ว +481

    Unequivocally yes, Frieza in his first form is already stronger than the Death Star. Not only could Frieza in his first form defeat the Sith he could solo the whole Star Wars Universe. He can also breath in space and mind tricks only work on the weak minded which Frieza is not. There's a reason why people like Guldo who can literally stop time or Ginyu who could swap bodies was a servant to Frieza. Even if you were to attack Frieza off guard it would not work. No matter what gimmicks you have they are no match for raw power.

    • @michaellevin2861
      @michaellevin2861 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      Under Dragon Ball's rules, power will always trump raw hax. Hit vs Goku or Jiren, Vegeta overcoming Babidi's mind control, Vegito whooping Buu's ass while literally transmuted into candy.. And there's not a being that can stand to First Form Frieza, much less Final Form/Mecha with King Cold at his back.
      The Jedi/Sith Mind Trick would MAYBE work on Cui at *best*. The Sith lords really have nothing that would win outside of the sheer miracle of a beheading with a lightsaber. (As being cut by plasma based attacks (?) is how Frieza went into being Mecha Frieza) But there's not a timeline where that blow can ever be struck. The lightsabers would just get stolen off the Sith corpses, given to the scientists, and mass-produced.

    • @NotTheWheel
      @NotTheWheel ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@michaellevin2861 exactly! Brilliant examples. Power trumps hack abilities.

    • @windhelmguard5295
      @windhelmguard5295 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      a few things y'all are forgetting:
      the sheer size of the empire and their technological superiority.
      because here's the thing: no matter how strong freeza is, there is only one freeza (and one king cold which still only makes two unbeatable beings capable of unaided space travel), the martial superiority of anyone else in freezas forces quickly becomes a non-factor when they're dying out in space, meaning that the superiority of the empires space ships actually matters, they can make distances in days that would take months to complete in a saiyan pod or one of freezas larger ships and they could easily destroy any ship in freezas fleet in battle.
      and sure you might say freeza can survive in space and he could destroy any imperial ship by himself within seconds, but freezas forces would still loose pretty much any battle freeza isn't there for, and once he arrives they jump into hyperspace, they're gone and freeza can't track them, he'd be busy putting out fires everywhere as the empire just shits on his fleet leaving freeza with two options: negotiate a conditional surrender with his dignity in tact, or end up a king without a kingdom.
      freezas biggest shot of getting out of this conflict not completely humiliated is if palpatine gets the idea of turning freeza into his apprentice to replace vader, which would allow freeza to come close enough to his enemy leadership to just murder vader and palpatine.

    • @striveprosper295
      @striveprosper295 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      ​@@windhelmguard5295😂😂😂 freeza is sadistic and hates losing. Freeza would much rather wipe out every single planet in the galaxy one by one then surrender. And everyone here is just talking about namek saga freiza. Not golden or black freiza. The empire would eventually be wiped or freiza would abondon his fleets and move around untraceable find the dearh star with vader and the emperor in it and blink it out of existance

    • @NotTheWheel
      @NotTheWheel ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@windhelmguard5295 Frieza's henchmen all have power levels of over 1000, Meaning that the Average Frieza Force member is already still planet level. I think it's odd you're factoring in Spacecraft here not to mention we're assuming Frieza's forces couldn't forcibly commandeer any vessel with superior travel. They are space pirates after all whose business was selling planets. Also as shown many of Frieza's soldiers can also breath in space. Empires relying on technology alone will always eventually collapse economically specially against forces which can unmake them with minimal effort. The idea that Frieza would bend the knee to anyone is ridiculous. If the Death Star was the penultimate form of fear in which to control the Galaxy, Frieza would be the most feared entity in the Galaxy and it would be foolish to go against him. Frieza was the strongest in the Universe for a reason.

  • @RainSpitter
    @RainSpitter ปีที่แล้ว +483

    Freeza doesn’t need a Death Star. He is the Death Star. I believe that force mind tricks and such have only been used in close proximity. Freeza would be able to react in a instant and dealt a killing blow. Also DBS has shown that fighters can be caught off guard. I can tell you that that isn’t happening with Freeza. He’s too sadistic to be caught off guard.

    • @SupercharizardEx
      @SupercharizardEx ปีที่แล้ว +92

      Jedi mind tricks have been stated to only work on those who are weak-minded. Frieza's mind is anything but weak, given how he is one of the most cunning and ruthless fighters in the DBZ franchise. Frieza also has access to telekinesis so I would imagine that he has the ability to fight off mental attacks as well.

    • @erhiueQWEF
      @erhiueQWEF ปีที่แล้ว +87

      Frieza was able to bridge the gap in power from the Resurrection F arc to the TOP arc with JUST mental image training, there is no way Frieza would be susceptible to a Force Mind Trick.

    • @toboyaki_tagaraki
      @toboyaki_tagaraki ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Remember that time krillen faught freiza. Just saying

    • @RainSpitter
      @RainSpitter ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@toboyaki_tagaraki yeah he did actually caught him off guard with a destructo disk, but Freeza regain composure right away and even learn the technique from just watching it once. Also Freeza should have survived and he would have probably killed Krillin.

    • @Jewel_Screaming_Chango8387
      @Jewel_Screaming_Chango8387 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Frieza has the same mind tricks and powers as the sith

  • @K.A.Riley09
    @K.A.Riley09 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I just got a mental image of Frieza lifting up Palpatine and giving him the Krillin treatment

  • @idontwant2beasoldiermama241
    @idontwant2beasoldiermama241 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    Realistically, freezer would erase them all in 2 seconds

    • @DarkDarkXIV
      @DarkDarkXIV ปีที่แล้ว +20

      While laughing. 😂

    • @SephirothXValentine
      @SephirothXValentine ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Empire would adapt and make it impossible for Frieza's military to invade. Their space tech far surpasses the Frieza force. All they would need to do is catch Frieza out in the open, blow his ship to kingdom come, and FTL away leaving Frieza stranded in deep space to die. Frieza's military 100% depends on actually landing because i've never seen a Frieza space fighter, have you?

    • @legion4902
      @legion4902 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      ​@@SephirothXValentine
      Frieza has survive in space, see: his destruction of planet vegeta. Frieza is also faster than hyperspace.

    • @spacesaiyan2512
      @spacesaiyan2512 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@SephirothXValentineFrieza literally brags to Goku about how he can survive in space what are you on about 💀

    • @Eltrio2
      @Eltrio2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unless he was bored and decided to play with his food.

  • @brettls2
    @brettls2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Captain Ginyu alone would obliterate the entire Star wars universe, the good and bad guys. This isn't even close.

    • @westonmeyer3110
      @westonmeyer3110 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Zarbon could do it easily

    • @CeeDoubleU
      @CeeDoubleU ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@westonmeyer3110💯

    • @tentimestay9181
      @tentimestay9181 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      GULDO could do it

    • @redjirachi1
      @redjirachi1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Buu could destroy the Force

    • @kongzillatoho4558
      @kongzillatoho4558 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dude. Dodoria would solo

  • @crazyanimegamer5667
    @crazyanimegamer5667 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Frieza: Sneezes.
    Darth Vader: Completely disintegrates.

  • @kujoova
    @kujoova ปีที่แล้ว +191

    The Star Wars scaling is the PEAK of highballing. It is extremely hard to get them to this and he used the most vague statements ever, not taking in context because it's basically impossible. I don't think Canon Vader/Palpatine has any near-lightspeed feats. Even in Legends, the scaling is too low to get past the first bit of DBZ.
    The most powerful weapon does not mean the same destructive power, it's stupid to compare and use a vague statement to say Kylo can destroy multiple planets easily.
    There's the statement of Kylo being rivaled by Vader. We see that Starkiller Base is directly superior to the Death Star, being able to output multiple projectiles and much more destructive power to blow up multiple planets instead of one at a time. Taking those previous statements literally makes it look like Vsder could output more power or just as much as Starkiller base, which just does not make sense at all.
    Especially when these are the same people who are being hurt by lightsabers, if this is taken literally you're upscaling Obi-Wan Kenobi and basically every other Person or Jedi who has ever interacted with Vader.
    When Vader said "The Death Star was insignificant to the power of the Force" was something along the lines of versatility and just having better uses in general, rather than a glorified laser pointer.

    • @DirtyDev
      @DirtyDev ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Exactly, I usually think he is right in most of these videos but this one was just disingenuous for the sake of making a fun video.

    • @somethingwithultra7231
      @somethingwithultra7231 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Legends is actually still a difficult one, since the novels heavily imply that Force Users (when using vehicles) can move at hypersonic/light speed in sync with theirs. And that can be scaled as even more insane, as Anakin the best pilot in the galaxy, had problems even seeing sidious' movements during the windu VS sidious fight.

    • @kujoova
      @kujoova ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@somethingwithultra7231 Not really, since Kid Goku has consistent lightspeed laser dodging feats. Especially his “Solar Flare” feat in the Tournament.
      People like King Piccolo and Roshi whose low power levels being dwarfed by Raditz actually were Moon busters.
      Lowballed early DBZ characters would still blitz and destroy legends continuity characters.

    • @zacheryarchie4765
      @zacheryarchie4765 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tuskyomi

    • @BlueDragonKnight77
      @BlueDragonKnight77 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      This. Many of the statements used to literally scale people here were never meant as such. In early Star Wars the Force was basically just treated as a religion, so Vader stating that it is more powerful than the Death Star is more along the lines of „Yes this bomb is strong, but God is still all powerful“ instead of „I can use the Force, therefore I can destroy planets just by using it“. And if that were the case, why even build s Death Star and waste resources on something Vader and Sidious could have done themselves? The strongest Force feat I remember was probably tearing down that Star Destroyer in Force Unleashed which in no way compares to destroying planets or even suns. And even if it did, Frieza survived a planet blowing up while on it. While tanking a full power blast from Goku. While being cut in half. I don’t think there is any meaningful way a Sith could hurt him. Not even Lightning, he just tanks natural lightning in that one episode which is immensely more powerful than whatever Sith can put out

  • @corey5712
    @corey5712 ปีที่แล้ว +519

    Frieza would blink and kill them all

    • @binghambud
      @binghambud ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's wishful thinking.

    • @-Extra_Lives
      @-Extra_Lives ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Frieza isn't that much more powerful than Sidous and Vader assuming it's Sayain saga.
      Of course if we use the resurrected Frieza or the Frieza from GT then yeah

    • @corey5712
      @corey5712 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @@-Extra_Lives is it crack?

    • @djspit8929
      @djspit8929 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      ​@@corey5712 hes technically right. Saiyan saga/early namek we only knew about friezas first form who was a large planet buster/small star level. His subsequent forms eradicate the empire with a finger though

    • @corey5712
      @corey5712 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@djspit8929 well anybody can beat anybody if they let em. But still that doesn't make much sense to me either.

  • @neoqueto
    @neoqueto ปีที่แล้ว +63

    If they land a hit with the Death Star II at full power, they might give him a small bruise.

    • @morbnerd3980
      @morbnerd3980 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Maybe, except if he is in Golden or Black form then it doesn't even register.

    • @napoleontheclown
      @napoleontheclown ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Maybe a small singe mark and a wry comment about almost feeling that one.

    • @alphadios2003
      @alphadios2003 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think they will give him more than a bruise. Both DS are not toys. DS-1 instantly blasted Alderaan away as if there was nothing, all while piercing it's planetary shield. So far so good only Beerus was shown to obliterate planets instantly. A direct hit from any Death Star is a potential hazard for Frieza especially as he would most likely use his first form in a conflict like this one.

    • @goldedrag111
      @goldedrag111 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@alphadios2003Except DB characters can tank their own explosive blasts.

    • @jointser1008
      @jointser1008 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@goldedrag111 rhe deathstars ray pierces through everything as the dud above me said it pierces through a planetary shields. Not even shields can save you from this one.

  • @TheMisterbobman
    @TheMisterbobman ปีที่แล้ว +128

    I watched this like three times to make sure I wasn't missing something, but I just kept disagreeing more. I think the biggest issue is how baddly the power of the sith empire was highballed. Vader and Kylo absolutely do not have the destructive power of the death star and star killer base. They are able to accomplish more than the weapons through political moves and man to man fights but they absolutely are not planet busters. If they were then it wouldn't make any sense to build the weapons in the first place. The protagonists who fought Vader and Kylo would have to be relative to that level of power as well to be able to fight at all, and if that was the case Luke or ray could have just destroyed the super weapons with the force alone. Star killer base was able to destroy five planets at once, not an entire sun, meaning even first form Frieza would likely be able to tank a direct hit from it. Love your videos my dude and this one was certainly a cool concept but yeah freiza wins this one, no difficulty

    • @rahl163
      @rahl163 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean, it probably isn't cannon, but there are sith like Darth Nihlus who can consume all the life on a planet to fuel their own existence. Darth Sion who is functionally immortal unless you break his will, though that might be beaten by the disintegrating powers of ki blasts. I mean Freeza still wipes the sith, but sith in the past have been planet killers, and Vader is supposed to be the strongest of them all.

    • @TheMisterbobman
      @TheMisterbobman ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@rahl163 oh yeah, no, if we are counting legends continuity it's totally different. With the main cannon that is presented in this video tho there is no shot

    • @somethingwithultra7231
      @somethingwithultra7231 ปีที่แล้ว

      At the same time, there are alot of weird Sith feats including in canon which some power scalers have leaned toward being like universal+ though.

    • @IvanRingle
      @IvanRingle ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rahl163it’s *canon* not cannon.

    • @TemporaleTossico
      @TemporaleTossico ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@rahl163 Unique force powers like Nihililus and Sion's still don't make a difference when put against the completely overpowering force of Frieza. Also I don't think there have been any other planet killing sith except Nihilus, Vader may be stronger in terms of fighting prowess and skill, but Nihilus is the only one who's showed a force power capable of doing something like that.

  • @logella
    @logella ปีที่แล้ว +139

    The idea is cool, but I didn't think we'd ever have to think about this (Frieza obviously wins and there is no timeline or alternate universe that has,does or will ever exist where Frieza loses)

    • @SephirothXValentine
      @SephirothXValentine ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How are the Frieza force going to invade if the Empire literally blows them out of the sky in deep space since the Frieza force has not been shown to have any deep space fighting capability and completely relies on planet side landing parties? That literally just blows any chance of a Frieza force invasion out of the sky 100%
      Frieza is pretty much the only character we know of that has any chance of surviving a space encounter, and if his ships are all disabled and he gets stranded in deep space and the enemy jumps out he's out of luck unless someone comes to pick him up. Bro doesn't know how to sense energy let alone navigate to a distant galaxy on his own.

    • @BeHoly10
      @BeHoly10 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      ​@@SephirothXValentine😂 You gotta be trolling the entire frIeza force can breathe in space they literally fought bardock in space what are you on about

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@BeHoly10Saiyans can't breathe in space, can they? Goku can't so why would his father be able to? They may have been in high orbit, upper atmosphere.

    • @jaelon0983
      @jaelon0983 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@BJGvideos most of the frieza force is aliens, while some of the human looking ones had respirator helmets on

    • @wesselvanharrewijn3082
      @wesselvanharrewijn3082 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      literally only if frieza doesnt pay attention and gets cut in half by vader's lightsaber. thats the only scenario i can come up with. or he throws the discs again and forgets them again.

  • @jamesq7954
    @jamesq7954 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Frieza (while pointing at the death star): "Look at what they have to do to mimic a fraction of 1% of my true power!"

  • @TeleologicalConsistency
    @TeleologicalConsistency ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Vader isn't a planet buster. He's just a human with cyborg parts and force abilities. Nowhere in canon does he remotely come close to destroying a planet or display any power beyond street level. He could slap around some normal human soldiers with ease and beat other force users but he can't deal with superpowered beings like Frieza at all. His lightsaber can't even clip Frieza's nails.

  • @jakstorm3180
    @jakstorm3180 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Frieza wasn't a planet destroyer unless it proved to be too difficult to conquer. He was a planet broker, the galactic empire wanted to rule the galaxy. Frieza wanted to rule the universe

    • @piotrkarp9562
      @piotrkarp9562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Planet busting in DB works from around 10 000 so neither Nappa or Bardock were planet busters. Vegeta in sayian saga was. So there's point where Sith Empire would perish. Befeore this you can just blow up planet. Even if Nappa was stronger than Vader he would just die in vaccum.

    • @Kodeuk
      @Kodeuk ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@piotrkarp9562PL of 10,000 is large planet level while 4000-5000 should be medium size planet

    • @Fact_Check12
      @Fact_Check12 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@piotrkarp9562 planet busting doesn't work at 10k power level. If you remember, baby low class Saiyans as great apes were planet busters and the power of a regular adult Saiyan is about 1500 and great ape is a 10x multiplier which means an adult Saiyan great ape should be around 15k which means a baby should be less than 5k. I think a 3k power level should already be a planet buster. 10k is what is needed to one shot a planet like Vegeta's galick gun.

  • @Guilherme-ne5kf
    @Guilherme-ne5kf ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This would be a fucking universal genocide and frieza would be laughing through the whole thing

  • @freezasama5802
    @freezasama5802 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    everything the Sith could attempt to do Freeza he can do better, Use the force Freeza can use telekinises, jump really high Freeza can Fly, Blow up a planet using a death star Freeza can do it with a finger, use spaceships Freeza has spaceships that can get from one side of the universe to the other in a matter of days, using blasters force lightning and lightsabers would do nothing to Freeza it wouldn't even cut him so it's not a fair match up at all

    • @ernie9538
      @ernie9538 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the Ginyu Force would do the job

    • @crimsonking4151
      @crimsonking4151 ปีที่แล้ว

      If a sword can cut Frieza and distructo disc cut Frieza I recon a lightsaber can one shot Frieza

    • @ernie9538
      @ernie9538 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@crimsonking4151 A destructo disc can cut through anything regardless of your power, and the sword you are talking about was being use by someone that is more powerful than the death star.

    • @crimsonking4151
      @crimsonking4151 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ernie9538 so does a lightsaber, and cell wasn’t harmed by the disc, and trunks’s sword swings are not plant level. Just cuz he’s strong enough to level a planet don’t mean the sword slashes he used on Frieza are planet level…

    • @crimsonking4151
      @crimsonking4151 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ernie9538 the Death Star can one shot DBZ characters. It’s possible. The full extent of their AP in general ranges from moon to multi galaxy levels (DBZ). Other than buu and arguably Frizea. No one in Z has been able to tank a planet level attack. All in all lightsabers and the deathstar are legit threats to Frizea.

  • @jamesking6636
    @jamesking6636 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't even have to watch this video to know that Frieza would absolutely annihilate the entire Star Wars universe lol

  • @meganparrish807
    @meganparrish807 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One thing to note: Kid Goku took out the Red Ribbon Army an army you could use as an equivalent comparison to the Imperial forces sans starships, including for the elite troopers armed with advanced tech.
    Goku being no where near the strength of a Frieza soldier means you only need 2 of them at minimum per planet in Star Wars to completely decimate the Empire.
    As others have said, the Death Star being useless next to the power of the Force is a statement of value not raw power, because at the end of the day the DS will only ever be a giant super weapon. There are no feats for either Vader or Palpatine straight up destroying planets casually with raw power, their feats are more on Kid Goku's level as far as canon is concerned.
    That means Frieza absolutely bodies both of them.

  • @Seven_Leaf
    @Seven_Leaf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "Judge me by my size do you?" -- Lord Freeza probably

  • @JOSHISRANDOM
    @JOSHISRANDOM ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “FIRE THE DEATH STAR”
    Frieza just chuckles as he slaps it away in his first form
    😬 not fair at all

  • @hikurosan1550
    @hikurosan1550 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    these guy must be a huge fan of Star wars giving the empire a good dream of a close fight against Freeza force.😅

  • @chicken29843
    @chicken29843 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Honestly the power scale of the two universes aren't even close. I mean beginning of series Roshi arguably solos the entirety of the empire

    • @Kakarot64.
      @Kakarot64. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you ignore that time Roshi was restrained by a rope that was controlled telekinetically to tie him up by General Blue I guess.

    • @TruePoseidon
      @TruePoseidon ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Kakarot64. General blue was actually strong in original dragon ball.

    • @aspiknf
      @aspiknf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Master Roshi could destroy the moon in buff mode in Dragon Ball.

    • @rhetthayes5981
      @rhetthayes5981 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another interesting concept, roshi could use the evil containment technique to trap Vader and palpatine in containers if the star wars fuck boys wanna keep pulling technical bullshit out of their ass to make it seem like it's even a contest 🤣🤣🤣

    • @alphadios2003
      @alphadios2003 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Roshi can't do shit to the Galactic Empire. He might be able to destroy a death star and beat as many storm troopers as he could up until he tires up. He is old. He doesn't even fly.

  • @timmytobongye9802
    @timmytobongye9802 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Guldo blinks and the entire Star Wars universe is gone😭😭😭(just a joke)

    • @jazazo4956
      @jazazo4956 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      But it's true tbh

    • @abstraction6212
      @abstraction6212 ปีที่แล้ว

      Luke, Nihlus, Valkorian, Abeloth, and Darth Krayt stomp Guldo

    • @softhaus4485
      @softhaus4485 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@abstraction6212 They arent even real. those characters are fan fiction

    • @kongzillatoho4558
      @kongzillatoho4558 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Uninronically Guldo could kill Vader by holding his breath

  • @yaboityler2617
    @yaboityler2617 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Sith are Red Ribbon Army levels of incompetant once they actually hold any sort of power

  • @justwinbaby1536
    @justwinbaby1536 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Remember Namek? That's what would happen to the entire Empire with Frieza.

  • @Emrald79
    @Emrald79 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Frieza is a Sentient human sized Death Star that can survive in space. Why is this even a question?

  • @ssjbread2803
    @ssjbread2803 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:36 it mentions here that their power level is BELOW 1500, and we arent given a concrete number how much lower. Theyre below Raditz in terms of power, and many of them are incapable of wielding ki, requiring bulky and unwieldy blasters mounted to their arms in order to compete with other forces.

  • @MKfan888
    @MKfan888 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Empire literally needs a moon-sized space station cannon to mimic a tiny fraction of Frieza's first form power lol

  • @SonGoku-yw5tr
    @SonGoku-yw5tr ปีที่แล้ว +25

    If Frieza without training easily beats them imagine Golden Frieza pulling up 😂

    • @tadmccord2465
      @tadmccord2465 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Now imagine black frieza

    • @123GOHANZ
      @123GOHANZ ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He swipes his hands and literally vaporizes the galaxy

    • @Nikelclip
      @Nikelclip ปีที่แล้ว

      You didn't watch the video did you?

  • @user-tz5uq2bt1s
    @user-tz5uq2bt1s ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don’t agree on the difficulty, but I agree on the outcome. Frieza stomps. Vader and Palp have never demonstrated the ability to output the level of damage a Death Star can. You use feats, not statements. The light saber wouldn’t even be able to cut Frieza. The sith lightning would do nothing. With a breath he could kill Vader and palp. This is absurd.

  • @user-jv8zo3wl1q
    @user-jv8zo3wl1q ปีที่แล้ว +45

    The Sith could probably use the force to stop a Ki blast, but I have serious doubts that they could react to Frieza's movement speed. When Frieza starts firing off those red Ki blast beams, people just start dying.

    • @BobThePenguin.
      @BobThePenguin. ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I imagine itd go like this
      Frieza (first form): *death beam*
      The sith: *using all their power just to hold it back*
      Frieza: "Adorable." *puts slight more power into it completely overwhelming them*

    • @binghambud
      @binghambud ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@BobThePenguin. It can be deflected

    • @Fion355
      @Fion355 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@binghambud Doesnt mean anything if the other person can simply shoot 50 more at you at basically the same time. Casually, without exhausting them and for the lolz.

    • @apolloknight9521
      @apolloknight9521 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Fion355plus, wasn’t it shown that even Frieza firing a single death beam could destroy an island? (Namek Saga kind of confirmed this)

  • @casualverse
    @casualverse ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd say the biggest difference is Freiza doesn't need a death Star.
    Freiza is hundreds of death stars who in the course of super has become OVER THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DEATH STARS, that have the potential to become THE ONLY DEATH STAR.

  • @chrislad24
    @chrislad24 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    how in any way could you think the sith are planet Busters.
    when they call him their most powerful weapon they do not refer to destructive power, they mean he can get more done, he is more of a precision weapon rather than a weapon of mass destruction. it's like when the military says boots on the ground is more important than a nuke. they aren't saying they have the destructive power of a nuke just they are more important

  • @alexgrissom7251
    @alexgrissom7251 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Great video. I do feel there was some areas with Frieze that was down played tremedously that could futher demonstrate his power scaling and speed.

    • @shannonhogan1841
      @shannonhogan1841 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I don't think Frieza was down played. The sith were high balled by a LOT.

    • @VillainousToaster
      @VillainousToaster ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@shannonhogan1841I could see abeloth being a fair match for freeza, but the sith? Not so much.

  • @basedimperialism
    @basedimperialism ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In Star Wars, wiping a planet of all life in a single sweep was a feat only accomplished by two force users in history; Darth Vitiate and Emperor Palpatine in Legends. In Dragon Ball Z, Frieza completely destroyed a planet in his first form almost effortlessly.

    • @picklenik9658
      @picklenik9658 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Final form Namek Freeza is surely large star at worst and more likely around solar system level.

  • @just_a_tepig3611
    @just_a_tepig3611 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Empire: give up, we have a weapon that can blow up planets!
    Frieza: so anyway i pointed my finger at them

  • @silentsnake4750
    @silentsnake4750 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Frieza:Thats nice black suit dont mind if i get one myself

  • @inkchariot6147
    @inkchariot6147 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    The Frieza Army (if they're smart) would use Ki to shield themselves from laser blasts and overpower the Empire's foot soldiers and drone with relative ease.
    Dodoria and Zarbon would speed blitz and tank any attack the Sith officers have. The Ginyu Force would cover for them if either of the two were overwhelmed.
    And Frieza? A flick of his pinky would wipe out an entire armada.

    • @marche800
      @marche800 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hell. Ginyu could body jack Vader or Sidious. It wouldn't do him that much favours but it would essentially render them useless.

    • @BobThePenguin.
      @BobThePenguin. ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@marche800and give vader ginyus body? Hed stand more of a chance then even if it was injured.

    • @TeleologicalConsistency
      @TeleologicalConsistency ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Dodoria and Zarbon were multiple times stronger than the Saiyan invasion Vegeta and Vegeta was literally wiping out worlds that had civilizations just like Star Wars which had blasters and ships. Frieza is literally 10000 times+ stronger than Dodoria and Zarbon. Frieza wouldn't even need to show up to destroy the Sith. Just his foot soldiers could do it.

    • @tbd3336
      @tbd3336 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BobThePenguin. vader aint doinf shit with a beat up body with a hole in his chest. Plus Ginyu can always just steal Sidious

    • @some_shitposting_idiot3023
      @some_shitposting_idiot3023 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They literally would be immune to the empires attacks unless the death star hits a very weak minion

  • @funnysoupman69
    @funnysoupman69 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Uniroinically you can get an average frieza grunt to solo the empire and that will never not be funny

  • @evanalmighty5554
    @evanalmighty5554 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Did you make this video because you were bored? 😂 I love the breakdown of everything, I’m a fan of both franchises. Having said that you can’t compare… or you can. It would be like a lion vs a butterfly.

  • @VestedUTuber
    @VestedUTuber ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Alright... there's one key thing you've missed here: the force doesn't grant increased durability like Ki does. Instead, the Force grants precogniscience. Even if we accept your scaling estimates as valid, the moment Vader makes a mistake or leaves an opening, it's over. Same with Sideous. Heck, Farmer with a Shotgun could beat Sideous, for a couple of reasons:
    1. Sideous, for all his power, has the durability of a normal human. One good shot from a shotgun could kill him, if it manages to hit.
    2. In Star Wars, conventional firearms like a shotgun actually exist. They're called slugthrowers, and they're any lightsaber-wielding force user's big weakness, as the projectile moves so fast that the force user has to entirely rely on precogniscience to be able to block or dodge and physically wouldn't have time to respond at point-blank range, and even if they were to manage to parry the shot with their lightsaber the round will just melt and spray hot lead all over the force user, rather than deflecting. Put Sideous in Raditz's place at the very start of DBZ, facing off against Farmer with a Shotgun at close range, and you'd have one dead Sith Lord.

  • @m4ribos925
    @m4ribos925 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Frieza sneezes and the whole empire gets destroyed

  • @CYeoung
    @CYeoung ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This is so stupid Frieza just blows up Coruscant and the Death Star with 1 finger. The empire spent 20 years building the Death Star to blow up 1 planet at a time, Frieza can blow up a planet in seconds without even trying.

  • @MannyloAnimeSquad
    @MannyloAnimeSquad ปีที่แล้ว +8

    there is no debate Frizea stumps lol alone even Kid Goku...

  • @Liex59
    @Liex59 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Frieza is beyond Death Star level with one finger in his first form.

  • @danny1ft1
    @danny1ft1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love Starwars more than DBZ but damn, nothing in Starwars is f#cking with Frieza, he can delete planets on a whim while supressing his power, he's even telekinetic he rips mountains out the ground like it's not even difficult, doesn't need to even focus himself it's like picking up a paper weight to him meanwhile Vader has to put effort in for that level of force, it's a stupid comparison, not to mention you collapse a planet on Frieza he'll fly through it like butter it's like comparing a boot to an ant.

  • @LuisBrito-ly1ko
    @LuisBrito-ly1ko ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Considering that the entirety of the Saiyan Race constituted half of the Frieza Army, I say that it was far more superior than just 10s of thousands at maximum in terms of numbers.

  • @Goddamnitiwantaname
    @Goddamnitiwantaname ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *Freeza looking a the Death Star* "Look what they need to mimic a fraction of my power!"

    • @marcosdheleno
      @marcosdheleno 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      gold saints from saint seiya: look at those kids playing, so cute...

  • @TheFirehands150
    @TheFirehands150 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Star wars power levels never made sense. These Jedi and Sith can die by a group of clone troopers. Thats practically human level.

    • @Mr_Lucas
      @Mr_Lucas ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And on top of that him trying to scale star wats characters to lightspeed because they’re moving and controlling a ship at light speed is kinda wanking it ☠️ because a point blank blasted fight would be ridiculous as they would never land as low tiers in star wars would be able to react effortlessly

    • @originalserpent1834
      @originalserpent1834 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They are all very weak.

  • @vibezonegaming
    @vibezonegaming ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Frieza/King Cold/Cooler all individually take out every part of the empire before Super.
    Cooler’s Armored Squad, the Ginyu Force, Zarbon, Dodoria, Cui, the 3 Saiyans, Avo, and Cado would clear the army probably individually too. This includes the Super specific henchmen from anime and movie Resurrection F.

  • @hunterackerman1697
    @hunterackerman1697 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One thing I think is important to remember, Frieza is a sore loser. If it looks like he's going to fail, he'll destroy the entire planet. And neither sidous, nor Vader can survive in space.

  • @NeonSwordsManFangattack
    @NeonSwordsManFangattack ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You point out that they have massively lower AP and speed even in comparison to First Form Frieza (Dwarf Star and MFTL for him and Planetary and FTL for them) but then you go on to conclude that they're extremely close to his Final Form?? Am I missing something?

  • @alexeiharp7676
    @alexeiharp7676 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Frieza destroyed a planet with a finger, if the Sith want to win they'd need some illusion tricks or force drain maybe.
    But Frieza could probably deal with it by transforming.
    And the Ginue force would most likely wipe anything that comes in the way.

  • @asahearts1
    @asahearts1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Frieza: "See what they need to do to mimic a fraction of our power!"

    • @marcosdheleno
      @marcosdheleno 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      gold saints from saint seiya: look how cute those kids playing pretend are...

  • @donaldwolfe7341
    @donaldwolfe7341 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    If a Sith had deflected a Death Star blast, or used the force to catch a planet busting blast and redirect it with ease, I’d be more on board for this. End of the day though, these are sci-fi swordsmen with telekinesis decent… which Freiza also has. They’ve shown no feats or strength that even compares to Nappa, much less Freiza.
    I think at most, I’d say a light saber is as dangerous as Krillin’s destro disk. They might steal a few wins on certain characters that underestimate the sharpness of their sabers, but that’s about it imo.

    • @DiscusvissenRocken
      @DiscusvissenRocken ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly!! Frieza could lift a rock the size of a small mountain with his telekinesis without even lifting a finger.

    • @RipOffProductionsLLC
      @RipOffProductionsLLC ปีที่แล้ว

      Legends Palpatine has some crazy feats, Force Storms are basicly 40K Warp Rifts in practical terms, plus the body hopping after he died.
      But most of Palpatine's greatest powers aren't direct combat ones, they're stuff like long distance telepathy with subordinates and Battle Meditation that theoretically could enable his to coordinate a whole galaxy spanning war.

    • @Zeiss120
      @Zeiss120 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And people in DB universe has been shown to hone their Ki around their body and make it sharper than anything, so if they want to do lightsaber fight they could too. But I feel like dumbass Goku would just body block it and not even effect him.

    • @piotrkarp9562
      @piotrkarp9562 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RipOffProductionsLLC I mean... funny enough Freeza, of all people, was strucked by lighting in series during Namek arc. It didn't work.

  • @reptilian_geneticist
    @reptilian_geneticist ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Vader was not being compared to the deathstar 😂.... He was stated as the ultimate weapon because he was relentless, emotionless, etc.... its completely disingenuous to misinterpret those statements in that way... Vader does not have planetary AP lol... id be surprised if he could even destroy a mountain....

    • @smtandearthboundsuck8400
      @smtandearthboundsuck8400 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Typical powescaler brainrot in full action.
      Same to the people who wank Paper mario to hyperversal because of a soup in an obscure Wario game 💀

  • @Painallity
    @Painallity 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Frieza would probably just think Darth Vader's lightsaber is a glowstick

  • @Azure_Mxth
    @Azure_Mxth ปีที่แล้ว +16

    OK OK- what if Cooler was added into the mix?

    • @iamNOTbelowtop75
      @iamNOTbelowtop75 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Frieza kinda just wins. Cooler is seen as stronger than frieza. Hell cooler even has his own squadron who were beating zfighters. You'd have essentially A stronger frieza (Cooler), And a stronger version of the ginyu force (Cooler's squadron). If you dont count cooler's squad into the mix. Frieza still has the advantage over the sith. Since at the top of the power. it would be a 3V2.

    • @eugenekrabs2403
      @eugenekrabs2403 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With the way you worded your comment, I'm reminded of Scott Steiner's Math Promo from TNA

    • @hggs4466
      @hggs4466 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No need for that over kill the empire loses

    • @argy7526
      @argy7526 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      they send the ginyu force to deal with the whole empire and the frieza family has a reunion

    • @aspiknf
      @aspiknf ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iamNOTbelowtop75 Cooler isn't even canon, fuck Cooler.

  • @MMAddict39
    @MMAddict39 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Because of the Saibamen the Empire's edge in numbers is drastically cut down since the Frieza Force can just grow Raditz level beings in a moment's notice. They might even be stronger as Saibamens' strength is determined by the soil they're planted in. As for Frieza himself he is so far beyond anything that Palpatine and Vader are actually capable of that it's not even close. He can casually wipe out an entire planet populated with people between Radditz and Nappa levels of strength with a literal flick of his finger.

  • @Danosauruscrecks
    @Danosauruscrecks 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Here's the thing.....freeza can take a god of destructions energy, compress it, and take control of it. That's before he got his new black form. I'm pretty sure even the most powerful force attack can not only be easily avoided but i don't think it would even have much effect on him at all. We have not seen a force user with the strength to force crush a planet or even a moon. I don't think freeza needs an army or even to get out of his chair in his first form to totally wipe out the empire

  • @zenkaiforms
    @zenkaiforms ปีที่แล้ว +7

    8:41 this part lol

  • @abdulalhazred3027
    @abdulalhazred3027 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Vader: You've come!
    Freiza: Hello Monkey!

  • @advocateofkaos3246
    @advocateofkaos3246 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bro frieza would solo every planet

  • @bronysaiyan5236
    @bronysaiyan5236 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I mean you mentioned right at the beginning of explaining Vader that you're highballing statements as literal. So yeah star wars just doesnt have the speed or reaction time to match any of Freezers forms

    • @mercylavigne
      @mercylavigne ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It has. But he clearly doesn't know about characters like Abeloth, Nihilous and others who had, casually, Star Level+ of powers. Of course it doesn't go beyond that, but they're not playing around either...

  • @HadeTheReal
    @HadeTheReal ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vader and Palpatine Don't have Planet level durability, Vader was Badly damaged by Kenobi throwing rocks at him , Frieza Can literally do that as one of his attacks , Guldo could just stop time and Crush them with something

  • @MrKevin486
    @MrKevin486 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This is a "no contest" there is nothing the Empire could do that would even cause Frieza any damage, let along stop him.

    • @crimsonking4151
      @crimsonking4151 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lightsaber ,cut off his breathing with the force Shatter point Death Star one shots. The force will work on Frieza since it’s not chi. I’m not calling it a victory but there are ways the smith can win

    • @Chris-xc4rv
      @Chris-xc4rv ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Remember, Frieza doesn't even need to breath. Dude can survive a planet exploding, what's a lightsaber gonna do? And every character in DBZ uses and tanks beam attacks.

    • @crimsonking4151
      @crimsonking4151 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Chris-xc4rv lightsaber can go through anything. Kienzam and a sword can go through Frieza and so can a lightsaber. Dragon ball characters can bust planets but very few db characters can survive planet level attacks.

    • @MrKevin486
      @MrKevin486 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @ราชาสีแดง Crimson King All the main characters and villains after Frieza can EASILY tank planet or solar system level attacks. Lightsabers won't do anything unless they are enveloped by a user with around equal or stronger ki then Frieza has. Otherwise it'd bounce off him like a baseball bat. Also lightsabers cannot cut through anything, even in the Star Wars universe this isn't true. Lots of things can stop lightsabers.

    • @crimsonking4151
      @crimsonking4151 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrKevin486 yeah this is objectively untrue. SsjB vegeta was killed by a planet level explosion. The entire Saiyan race was killed by a super nova. SSJ Goku would have died on namek with out a ship. Goku was also killed by cells self destruction witch was at best planet level. SsjB Goku was also one shot by a henchmen. I can go over ever Dragon Ball death just to prove planet level is the cap on durability for 90% of Z characters. Frizeza was also killed by trunks’s god breaker and Frieza was killed again by Goku’s Kamehameha. Nether of those blast were planet level but were enough to atomize Frieza’s body.

  • @pastorkev777
    @pastorkev777 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The weird thing is how the power and Star Wars works in comparison to DBZ. You could argue that Darth Vader or the emperor, could catch the blast of some of the attacks, deflect it or returning it, but their physical bodies are not able to take much of the abuse Frieza can dish out. On the other side how would domination powers that Vader and the Emperor work with Frieza, such as choke, grip, crush, etc.

    • @rhetthayes5981
      @rhetthayes5981 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The moment they tried to start choking him it would probably piss him off and he'd blow up the planet or ship their own😂😂

    • @BG-it7hb
      @BG-it7hb ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The force choke etc. are basically telekinesis...Frieza has those abilities. He can move people and objects through air. And he isore durable physically than the people and creatures Vader/Anakin fought. The light sabor is probably the only thing that could harm him (he has been cut by energy attacks and blades before) if the one wielding it is fast enough, witch Vader isn't.

  • @dannygcreates2035
    @dannygcreates2035 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How is this even a debate? As cool and strong as the sith are in their universe, Frieza could wipe out the entire empire. Heck the entire with a single energy attack of his hand. It's like Frieza said when he was fighting the Z fighters for the first time on Namek " When ants battle a dinosaur who do you think emerges the victor?". The fact of the matter is that Frieza and his entire empire are on a whole other level of power that not even Palpatine himself could achieve with the dark side of the force.

  • @elilikepizza1344
    @elilikepizza1344 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Friza is definitely winning this literally all he got to do is to do the move he did to krilin

  • @justinwhaley1288
    @justinwhaley1288 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Base frieza is enough

  • @Jman20077
    @Jman20077 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    While I love both franchises, and think both Frieza and Darth Vader are two of the best villains in fiction. This isn’t even a debate, just first form Frieza would dominate the Empire

  • @CanonRulesSaysGod
    @CanonRulesSaysGod ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I agree that Freeza would win still. But I disagree that the sith would put up that good of a fight. Freeza, while suppressed and not even at his full power in his first suppressed form destroyed planet vegeta, a planet with 10× the mass of earth with one finger. And it took him under 20 seconds to produce the energy needed to not only destroy, but completely obliterate that planet. This wasnt at all a difficult feat for Freeza, he could continually do this if pressed to do so and it wouldnt be much of a challenge to him. As far as hax, physical strength and speed, Freeza still vastly overwhelms the sith. Raditz is speculated to be able to move and react at light speed atleast in short bursts and Freeza is 100,000x Raditz strength. In the Freeza saga he effortlessly lifts an entire mountain to hurl against Goku, and he opens a hole in the ocean, all the way to the bottom with ease as well, maintaining it so he could torture vegeta. Freeza is also struck by an actual lighting bolt and nothing happened at all (keeping in mind this was his final form but not even 50% full power. The best weapon the sith have against him is likely the ability to predict the future to some extent as well as their light sabers. It was shown that Freeza cannot fully resist blade or cutting ki attacks and in both of his early encounters it is these to things that lead to his downfall and then death in the future. So, that being said they are capable of killing Freeza simply based on certain tools at their disposal, but if it came down to a real fight, Freeza would win easily. If he got cocky and toyed with them instead of killing them outright, he does stand a small chance of being hurt or mortally wounded by a lightsaber. But even if they used the death star on a planet where Freeza resided as a sneak attack, he can survive planetary explosion and breath in space. So not a very high likelihood they could eek out a win. As a matter of fact, the sith arent stupid and as such would likely, upon learning of Freeza, stay off his radar and persue other means to fight instead of rushing in.

    • @CeeDoubleU
      @CeeDoubleU ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nobody in the entirety of the star wars universe is laying a finger on 1st form Freeza

    • @Nikelclip
      @Nikelclip ปีที่แล้ว

      Darth Vader? Palp? Being star level while Frieza is a planet level in his first form?

    • @teofilogarciatrujillo6330
      @teofilogarciatrujillo6330 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually lightsabers cut through high temperatures. Freezer casually withstnads magma. We'd need to know lightsber temperature, and if they are any lower than the temperature Kamehameha may produce, then they'd do nothing. Sun temperature would be enough though as we saw with Cooler

    • @CanonRulesSaysGod
      @CanonRulesSaysGod ปีที่แล้ว

      @@teofilogarciatrujillo6330 lightning is a lot hotter than lava, and im pretty sure magma too. And lightsabers are supposed to be in the ballpark of 20,000 °F. Also the answer to whether Freeza could be cut by one isnt simple. It could absolutely cut him but if he used Ki to defend theres a chance it wouldnt do much

    • @teofilogarciatrujillo6330
      @teofilogarciatrujillo6330 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CanonRulesSaysGod 20k F degrees is 11k Celsiuis, twice as much as sun's surface, so it would be more than enough as Cooler's death suggest. Still Freezer's speed is in such another level that it is unbearable that Palpatine and Vader could even turn their lightsabers on before getting killed

  • @vaporstars2631
    @vaporstars2631 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really great video! I always wanted to see someone make a video about frieza going up against other villains and thier armys. It would be cool to see freeza invade planets from different animes and movies. Great video 👍

    • @hggs4466
      @hggs4466 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Would only need to send ginyu force and watch the fire works

  • @yimsoyimchunger9522
    @yimsoyimchunger9522 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just send in a ship of frieza force grunts 💀

  • @BunnyAce
    @BunnyAce ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That's the most cope I've ever heard in my life... Palpatine and Vador INSANELY close to frieza in combat (????) you can't be real mate... there's no fight to be spoken of there...

  • @fdd4957
    @fdd4957 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So his argument in favor of Vader is Vader will be fighting using the force while simultaneously piloting a ship on full blast. Whenever we see Vader use the force, isn't he using his hands? Vader needs to use his hands to move the steering wheel. How would Vader fight while driving. Will he be using his legs to use the force?

    • @lonkstakes
      @lonkstakes  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you took it as Vader in a ship that’s my bad. They’re just fighting on a random planet or something idk.

    • @mattdavies9813
      @mattdavies9813 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@lonkstakesbut if they're not on ships, doesn't frieza just blow up the planet and take the automatic W from being able to survive in space?

    • @fdd4957
      @fdd4957 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mattdavies9813 I second that. Plus, without the ships, how would Vader dodge any of Frieza's attacks or even survive long enough to hit Frieza? With the speed difference and both of them on land, Frieza could end Vader 1000x over before Vader could use the force once.

    • @Jsipki265
      @Jsipki265 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fdd4957 Because Vader reaction speed is mftl with his feats and other pilots feats reacting to hyerspace

    • @crimsonking4151
      @crimsonking4151 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fdd4957 Vader can react to anything Frieza throws at him

  • @uchihafanboy363
    @uchihafanboy363 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When Vader or Palpatine try to use the force on frieza to kill him he will show how to do it and give them the Krillin treatment 😂

  • @lemmycentral1696
    @lemmycentral1696 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Although I understand at what your getting at. Frieza would wipe the floor with the whole empire even in his first form where he is suppressing himself: not even the force would work on him. Frieza probably could catch the lightsaber if it was to be used on him.

  • @magnetic9089
    @magnetic9089 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I agree, if you were going to use legends then dbs would have to be brought in and that’d still be close
    Although, the inquisitors would probably be a very helpful aid in this battle of empires and might have swung the battle

    • @tadmccord2465
      @tadmccord2465 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      So your saying it would be close if legends empire battled with BLACK FRIEZA?

    • @magnetic9089
      @magnetic9089 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tadmccord2465 nah with gold Black would clown the empire

    • @tadmccord2465
      @tadmccord2465 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@magnetic9089 gold is still super overkill

    • @originalserpent1834
      @originalserpent1834 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not even legends nothing other street level

    • @apolloknight9521
      @apolloknight9521 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@originalserpent1834 as far as I’ve seen on legends, they’re nowhere close to even beating a Frieza Force Grunt, or a Saibaman in that manner.

  • @sagaswp
    @sagaswp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Come on man. Palpy had to build a moon sized space station to blow up a planet. Frieza has to open the window and point his finger at a planet to blow it up. This isn't even CLOSE.

  • @Pro-dp3sh
    @Pro-dp3sh ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force.”

    • @Isotolerant
      @Isotolerant ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Vader was not talking literally, sith are more useful due to how they arent just a laser gun and can actually do things. That doesnt scale their ap to the death star

    • @jocoolshow
      @jocoolshow ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IsotolerantThere’s literal comparatively fodder Jedi that can output planet destroying energy with their force abilities, Yarael Proof, while literally mortally wounded and about to drop dead, was able to cancel out the energy of an artifact that was going to destroy Couruscant

  • @ricksosa4297
    @ricksosa4297 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How is Frieza vs Vader and Palpatine close? Frieza is basically invulnerable compared to all those low level opponents, they could not even touch him because he outspeeds everything/everyone. Zarbon and Dodoria can solo the sw verse