@@NeighborhoodWatchManntit ain’t happening with this game, we’re on year 4 brother, what games do u know of that where dropped in the last 10 years that took 4 years to take off?
I went to HCS this year. It appeared from a marketing standpoint Optic has divested in their Halo commitment. Last year Scump and others had a huge broadcasting booth, swag booth, etc. This year, nada. I know it's not empirical, but from a marketing standpoint they definitely scaled way back.
Yeah I think it will be renegade and frosty formal. Really they can plug in whatever 4th they think will suit best but that team makes the most sense for everyone.
@@theopticsniffer True. Also snakebite is super clutch, he very rarely makes the incorrect play. Frosty also sometimes has slow starts but man, when gets going it’s scary.
@@scottparrott5674 They can't just stick in whatever random 4th they want, optic proved that with their last 3 roster changes. It needs to be very calculated
Going to miss the old Optic. Tbh we might as well have kept APG if it all was going to fall apart. Had hopes of Deadzone finding his footing with the squad as there was a lot of potential there with more experience playing together.
@@derekbaker4763 Trash? I'll give you inconsistant, but I can't name a single professional Halo player that's "trash". My issue with Lucid, is that as the IGL, he always opts to tell Optic to play it safe when they get a lead, instead of stomping. His leadership style is far too cautious and I've always felt that Formal should be the IGL, given his experience... but I get that Formal came into a roster with Lucid already having that spot.
@@deankruse2891 I think you're misunderstanding what I said about Deadzone, as I've placed ZERO blame on him. I'm just stating that he only recently joined the team and that given enough time (practice/experience) playing with that team, Optic would have been a force. No matter how great a player is, it takes time for them to gel with a squad. Even with Legend playing well with SSG, he's only going to get better with that squad next season. Just look at Formal, as an example. He was good when he joined Optic, but now that he's been playing with the squad, he's the most clutch player in the roster IMO.
@@MillionaireHoyOriginal they were a force, SSG is just a better team than everyone else. If frosty and renegade are gettting beat by optic every time, you know that SSG is just playing perfect halo.
Lucid's micromanaging is the biggest problem - he doesnt like playing in full flow and filling gaps like eco does for SSG. That is why he's out of formals god squad imo
I can barely watch his stream because all he does is bitch about everything, he just expects everything to go his way and win all the time, half the time he complains about shots not counting he legit missed or something too lol, hes one of the best but hes holding himself back with his attitude and mental
Yea I think unless there’s a non-negotiable to3 that Formal wants, then I’d keep Deadzone. He can piv and makes clutch plays with solid obj efficiency. A lot of the rosters I see ppl saying are not learning the lesson from Faze-4 incredible slayers doesn’t cut it. You need ppl who are great at obj and pivs, which is why SSG dominated
@@loganjones2437 agree completely, i think deadzone earned his spot too. i also wonder if part of fazes issue is IGLing incompatabilities like maybe frosty v snakebite v renegade or something. also shows in optic with lucid v formal. sussing your IGL(s) + active ex pro coach + 2 or 3 crackheads who arent allergic to obj like SSG seems to me to be the key. Formal and Lunchbox can make that happen.
Idk, Formal already has something as close to a "God Squad" as I think he's going to get. Maybe that's a silly take, but I just don't see a more competitive team being assembled which includes him in the present environment. That Optic squad does seem to be prone to choking though, and that does seem to have been an issue even after the APG change.
Formal has said this many times since the tourney. He has said this roster cant continue because something is clearly wrong , and he also said in a podcast with maniac that he knows the other guys feel the same way
Optic God squad needs to be Formal, Cykul, Frosty, and Renegade. If they can somehow figure out roles and how to gel together, that team could out match ssg. Would be the most talented team in the league
Optic is an amazing team, but you can feel that their hearts aren’t in it. Too much pressure, too much frustration and too many distractions. They play fantastic through all these issues, but SSG doesn’t have the issues and that’s enough to put them on top of
yeah snakebite and royal2, lucid and trippy are nonnegotiable duos imo. i think its probably renegade and frosty, maybe legend or suppressed, with deadzzone
if you watch the flycast, in my opinion it sounds like formal more than likely wants to play with people from faze. He never blatantly said anything like that but if you watch how he talks and words things and just knowing alot about halo. If formal stays playing halo he will be with the faze guys either on faze or on optic.
Faze assembling kinda proves that throwing 4 S Tier slayers on one team, doesn’t always equate to success. I think all the team changes is a little absurd but idk the inner dynamics betweeen a lot of these teams and how their chemistry is. But winning solves all these problems. Hopefully things turn around for OpTic, but switching the roster around I don’t think is always the answer.
FaZe won the world championship with this roster……how is that not success?? Everyone else just got better in 2024 and they have some things to figure out.
"a squad I KNOW is going to win most of the events." There's no such thing in a world where SSG runs it back. Formal might as well retire. He can take any 3 players in the world that aren't on SSG and they won't be guaranteed to win most of the events.
Of course not, they're org skins not player skins. The orgs have to pay HCS to be a partner in that program and get a cut of skin sales. The players get a salary supported by the presumed income from the skins.
I 100% see Renegade teaming with Formal. Jon's the type to leave a team after winning the first event (C9) lol So, why wouldn't he leave one that didn't perform as well? I'd love to see them team.
I don’t think deadzone is going to be staying. If formal wants a god squad i bet he picks up at least Renegade and potentially splits up the trio and nabs Snakebite. Then I’d go for like a Mental, especially if the rumors of Lucid and trip going there end up being true.
@@JohnTyson46 he never plays obj so when he ends up having the most damage it gives him some God complex. I would love to see him compete and fail yet another year.
Duos. Trippy lucid snakebite royal 2 maybe can beat ssg? Formal renegade deadzone frosty? Need lucid renegade formal royal 2 to beat ssg i think. What 4 can beat ssg??
No God squad includes Formal. He's too inconsistent across a series to carry a team. The best optic/SR team would be Lucid, Cykel, Mental and Deadzone.
Man I wish Optic would just drop Trippy but Lucid has this weird bromance with him. Season 1 Trippy was a beast but since they switched to bandit starts he's struggled with his consistency
The entire halo tournament scene needs a little shake up. So many players trying to compete at the highest level comparing themselves to some of the best pro players on that team like Ogre 1 and Ogre 2. That's why you have these God squads forming. I can tell you it's just not going to happen to be that dominant for this generation of tactical halo. Formal is really good. His thinking is terrible for future competive halo games.
FormaL Frosty Renegade Snakebite make it happen guys but if ant wants in, Shotzzy FormaL Renegade Frosty is insane if tommy wants to stay without joey(love u joey) FormaL Lucid Renegade Frosty is filth
@@C-A-F That's disappointing. They won World 2023 for a reason. They just need to improve their team coordination and stop over-slaying during OBJECTIVE games.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M a solid team, but struggled all season. Only one major after winning worlds. This next season will be interesting…. I hope no single team is too dominant though.
The dead zone pickup was honestly a mistake. A majority of his Infinite career has been getting 2nd place. Should’ve taken a chance on a young motivated young talent - SSG did that and won 4 chips.
that's silly. They made 6 straight grand finals and he's not the reason they lost them. Deadzone is a monster, i don't think he's ever finished out of the top 4 in any LAN in his halo career.
@facehunter504 i've followed him since he was a halo 5 pro and he's legitimately one of the best players in the world. He is great with obj, is a beast with power weapons but he doesn't need power weapons to effect games
SSG going to beat any team. Eco/stellar are the new lunch/roy orge1/2 best duo. They aren't losing and they got bound legend turned them into champions. Bound already passed renegade. Renegade thought he was the better player IDK why
@@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx9656 his damage output always is near top and he’s fairly consistent. But he really doesn’t “carry the team”. Huge overstatement.
I love Formal and I’m an optic fan but he’s still getting paydays from 2nd. Like he said he’s 30 and after he retires that money will be more important than the chips.
honestly formal and deadzones need to go either formal retires or goes to another team and deadzone needs to definitely get the boot.they are both ass lucid and trippy need renegade and snakebite
The trouble with optic all season and going forward is that the only players who could fill a spot on the team better than who is already there, is on a better team. Nobody on ssg is switching teams, so there aren't available players unless well established partners break up. R2 and sb are not breaking up to join optic, for example.
Halo Sacks anyway. Im only still invested in this aß Game bc of FormaL. Just lost their magic with Halo Infinite. Reaction was cool, H5 was okay. H3 godlike H2 close. But Infinite is just boring to play and watch. I online watch OpTic matches dont care about any other match. Back in the days i watched every Single match + Eu tourneys. MCC was the best because they had the weekly online tournaments too.
Also let’s not forget lucid and trippy were doing nothing until formal joined, formal was beating them while they were finishing 2-5th they only stayed winning when he joined.
@@SecretPaintsmate mentality’s like this are why there’s such divisions in the community. First off, what are you talking about? Formal was literally away from optic for like half a season in the first year 😂 that has 0 relevance going into year 3/4. And renegade over lucid is subjective. Optic and Faze have the same number of WC’s now. And I think they also still have a better overall record in the 4 year span against faze. I agree individually renegade might be better but he’s also a literal top 5-10 all time halo player, with a team of other all time tops. Optic has formal and lucid, trippy and deadzone are great players, but something with the chemistry doesn’t work. Pinning all these players against each other just makes it seem you have 0 idea how any high level sporting experience goes or just didn’t watch the tournaments? Even rebellion with the right moments could have gotten to grand finals, same with pure. All of these pros can shoot and strafe, it’s the ones with composure like faze and ssg that keep them on top. Optic the same but something isn’t working for them clearly, but it’s not individual play.
@@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx9656 stupidly?? 😂 he went to faze and won two majors and worlds and C9 hasn’t broken past 2nd round up until this worlds? I don’t think he considers that stupid.
Why are people assuming that FaZe is going to break apart? I think that SSG & FaZe are the only 2 top teams sticking together. The only "God squad" that can possibly be formed for Matt (assuming Lucid & Trippy go elsewhere): FormaL, Mental, BubuDubu, & LastShot or Precision & even then, that's still weaker than SSG.... His ONLY other option is if FaZe & Optic make a straight trade between Frosty & Formal. But i doubt that would happen OPTIC: Lucid, Trippy, DZ, *Frosty* FaZe: Renegade, SnakeB, Router2, & *FormaL*
I can already tell year 4 is about to be the most competitive year of Halo in the history of professional Halo and I am looking forward to it.
I hope you're right! We need everything possible to get this game back where it needs to be
@@NeighborhoodWatchManntit ain’t happening with this game, we’re on year 4 brother, what games do u know of that where dropped in the last 10 years that took 4 years to take off?
@@jayhowiemane263 true
@@NeighborhoodWatchMann Infinite was dead on arrival. Max player count was like 256K & that lasted like 2 weeks. The next game can't come soon enough
I already think this year was the the most competitive ever. The 3 top teams could pop off anytime
Let’s get it 🔥 appreciate the shout out 🤞🏼 Great Video
God squad: Eco, Stellur, Bound, Legend
I think you mean the cheating squad
@@fonkymunkeys3100cry more bozo 🤡
Reset squad beast
You misspelled: renegade , stellur, formal , snakebite
Reset cheating cunts
I went to HCS this year. It appeared from a marketing standpoint Optic has divested in their Halo commitment. Last year Scump and others had a huge broadcasting booth, swag booth, etc. This year, nada. I know it's not empirical, but from a marketing standpoint they definitely scaled way back.
This is absolutely wild!!!🤯🤯 I hope lucid stays on Optic, but I think he needs to let trippy go.
Im glad formal is staying in Halo
Only “god squad” i can see is if Lucid stays and they pick up Frosty and Renegod
Lucid is way to loyal to trippy 💔
Yeah I think it will be renegade and frosty formal. Really they can plug in whatever 4th they think will suit best but that team makes the most sense for everyone.
I’d rather have snakebite over frosty. The generals been outshining frosty in almost every stat this year in my eyes
@@theopticsniffer True. Also snakebite is super clutch, he very rarely makes the incorrect play. Frosty also sometimes has slow starts but man, when gets going it’s scary.
@@scottparrott5674 They can't just stick in whatever random 4th they want, optic proved that with their last 3 roster changes. It needs to be very calculated
Deadzone won more Pivs than formal did all yr I get Matt is a “slayer” but doesn’t run flag or hold ball that isn’t the Halo Meta you need nowadays
formal isn't talking about deadzone he's talking about trippy 😂
yea formal losses alot of pivs. he really only shines with the sniper
He's talking about Trippy
matt is not as consistent as deadzzzone and he plays far slower. he is great with a sniper, but he isn't entry fragging
@@deankruse2891what are you talking about formal was hardcarrying most games, trippy is dogpee
Gonna be a crazy year. I just hope we get some answers soon!
SSG has Halo Infinite SSGesus (MVP), Bound (RoY) and Lqgend (MVP). They have fast gunners.
formal is a great player but he is delusional if he thinks he carried optic, he wasnt even the best player, lucid is.
🧢🧢🧢lucid was very inconsistent this year.
Big 🧢
Formal is by far the best on optic (this year)
@@RadditzEx casual. Formal loses so many pivs but yall just ignore it cuz your fanboys 😂
Lucid fan boys. Only stats you should look at it grand finals - look who plays like a bot under pressure? It's Lucy baby
@@j2theohno498 formal going 1-11 game 7 slayer my boy. keep hating tho.
Going to miss the old Optic. Tbh we might as well have kept APG if it all was going to fall apart. Had hopes of Deadzone finding his footing with the squad as there was a lot of potential there with more experience playing together.
Yeah but trippy is trash and lucid has some weird thing with him. Where he thinks he has to play with him.
@@derekbaker4763 Trash? I'll give you inconsistant, but I can't name a single professional Halo player that's "trash". My issue with Lucid, is that as the IGL, he always opts to tell Optic to play it safe when they get a lead, instead of stomping. His leadership style is far too cautious and I've always felt that Formal should be the IGL, given his experience... but I get that Formal came into a roster with Lucid already having that spot.
deadzzzone performed very well all championship. Crazy to put blame on deadzzzone.
@@deankruse2891 I think you're misunderstanding what I said about Deadzone, as I've placed ZERO blame on him. I'm just stating that he only recently joined the team and that given enough time (practice/experience) playing with that team, Optic would have been a force. No matter how great a player is, it takes time for them to gel with a squad. Even with Legend playing well with SSG, he's only going to get better with that squad next season. Just look at Formal, as an example. He was good when he joined Optic, but now that he's been playing with the squad, he's the most clutch player in the roster IMO.
@@MillionaireHoyOriginal they were a force, SSG is just a better team than everyone else. If frosty and renegade are gettting beat by optic every time, you know that SSG is just playing perfect halo.
Lucid formal renegade and frosty , that should be the squad
Lucid and Trippy are joined at the hip.
Where one goes, the other follows.
Not frosty
@@TrackStarzAllDay why not frosty
@@andrewduran1251 his inconsistency, In my opinion
@@TrackStarzAllDayI wouldn’t put him out because of a inconsistency he brings so much to the game that you need, who would you put then ?
Lucid's micromanaging is the biggest problem - he doesnt like playing in full flow and filling gaps like eco does for SSG. That is why he's out of formals god squad imo
I can barely watch his stream because all he does is bitch about everything, he just expects everything to go his way and win all the time, half the time he complains about shots not counting he legit missed or something too lol, hes one of the best but hes holding himself back with his attitude and mental
@@lukeg2171do you think he plays like that on the main stage lol?
he also clearly doesn't care about winning as much as he pretends he does. if he did, he'd realize its a business, and drop trippy
@@BlegBogthis is the comment of the year!!!!!
@@nunezkant No I think hes different on mainstage, but the same issues are still there just more muted.
I was thinking that Deadzone and Formal would stay together and then either Frosty/Renegade would join them or Snakebite/Royal 2.
Yea I think unless there’s a non-negotiable to3 that Formal wants, then I’d keep Deadzone. He can piv and makes clutch plays with solid obj efficiency. A lot of the rosters I see ppl saying are not learning the lesson from Faze-4 incredible slayers doesn’t cut it. You need ppl who are great at obj and pivs, which is why SSG dominated
@@loganjones2437 agree completely, i think deadzone earned his spot too. i also wonder if part of fazes issue is IGLing incompatabilities like maybe frosty v snakebite v renegade or something. also shows in optic with lucid v formal. sussing your IGL(s) + active ex pro coach + 2 or 3 crackheads who arent allergic to obj like SSG seems to me to be the key. Formal and Lunchbox can make that happen.
Yup but frosty renegade for sure
Deadzone was the problem
Lucid trippy, mental & cykul would be dope
FYI shotzzy is the CoD leak😂
Trippy.?? Smh lucid keep carrying his ass. Guy was only good 2023. This year he been on the way.
@@julsride3596 trippy took a big hit from the GAs, he focused a lot on controlling shotty/heatwave
Idk, Formal already has something as close to a "God Squad" as I think he's going to get. Maybe that's a silly take, but I just don't see a more competitive team being assembled which includes him in the present environment. That Optic squad does seem to be prone to choking though, and that does seem to have been an issue even after the APG change.
We’re geeked. If it’s CTLL, they winning worlds
Formal has said this many times since the tourney. He has said this roster cant continue because something is clearly wrong , and he also said in a podcast with maniac that he knows the other guys feel the same way
FORMAL, LETHUL, ROYAL 2, SnakeBit3
Optic God squad needs to be Formal, Cykul, Frosty, and Renegade. If they can somehow figure out roles and how to gel together, that team could out match ssg. Would be the most talented team in the league
why do people think Faze is breaking up?
that team wouldn't make top 3
@@8BitChad Because they can't win either
@@Hysetzzz but they did win HCS London and year 2 worlds
@8BitChad but had some bad performances this year for sure no? I mean it could go both ways, they've had some tough losses
Optic is an amazing team, but you can feel that their hearts aren’t in it. Too much pressure, too much frustration and too many distractions. They play fantastic through all these issues, but SSG doesn’t have the issues and that’s enough to put them on top of
God squad Formal,Lucid,Snakebite, Renegade. Since lucid is probably gone, the remaining three and suppressed
I really don’t see Snakebite playing without Royal 2
yeah snakebite and royal2, lucid and trippy are nonnegotiable duos imo. i think its probably renegade and frosty, maybe legend or suppressed, with deadzzone
if you watch the flycast, in my opinion it sounds like formal more than likely wants to play with people from faze. He never blatantly said anything like that but if you watch how he talks and words things and just knowing alot about halo. If formal stays playing halo he will be with the faze guys either on faze or on optic.
If Optic lose Lucid and Trippy, and picked up Frosty and Renegade the would make some good viewing.
I think if formal and deadzone stayed together that would be good
Nah, there’s better options than deadzone like snakebite, mental, suppressed
@@SecretPaintsmental 😂😂
@@SecretPaintsCykul is also a straight beast
Formal is Halo's Nick Fury.
Faze and optic need to combine somehow to beat ssg. Formal lucid renegade royal 2??
What if the second L is lunchbox
That would be insane
Faze assembling kinda proves that throwing 4 S Tier slayers on one team, doesn’t always equate to success. I think all the team changes is a little absurd but idk the inner dynamics betweeen a lot of these teams and how their chemistry is. But winning solves all these problems. Hopefully things turn around for OpTic, but switching the roster around I don’t think is always the answer.
FaZe won the world championship with this roster……how is that not success?? Everyone else just got better in 2024 and they have some things to figure out.
My squad would be formal, cykul, suppressed, and either lucid or bound
When he means just win your ones is he talking about trippy
is there ever going to be a Shopify rebellion skin in the HCS store
what’s good, Stephen A. Smith of Halo 😄🫡
Frosty, FormaL, Sparty, Gunplexion…now that’s a fvcking refreshing azz roster 🌪
Formal Precision Frosty Spartan
Ok but hear me out:
Optic 2025: "Formal, Frosty, Snakebite and Royal 2"
Why would faze switch organizations and drop renegade for a worse player?
"a squad I KNOW is going to win most of the events." There's no such thing in a world where SSG runs it back. Formal might as well retire. He can take any 3 players in the world that aren't on SSG and they won't be guaranteed to win most of the events.
I can see formal and renegade on the same team for sure
@@aaronklein177 formal needs to go to faze. And lucid and Trippy stay on optic and bring over two more like lastshot and cykul
@@RAHHicecreamthis dudes smoking crack. formal going to faze while lucid and trippy stay 😂😂😂
@@RAHHicecream He'll never leave OpTic for the long term. Also FormaL has earned himself the keys with what he has done for the org
optic god squad : Formal, lucid, trippy, renegade
but if trippy and lucid go, shopify roster: Trippy, Lucid, Cykul, Supressed
Asked Trippy on stream by the way, he said the players don't get a cut of the skins. Just wanted to share.
Of course not, they're org skins not player skins. The orgs have to pay HCS to be a partner in that program and get a cut of skin sales. The players get a salary supported by the presumed income from the skins.
@@t1merickson Yup that's what he said. Just wanted to clarify a comment from the video. Thanks for chipping in.
I 100% see Renegade teaming with Formal. Jon's the type to leave a team after winning the first event (C9) lol So, why wouldn't he leave one that didn't perform as well? I'd love to see them team.
I really hope faze don’t change
Being reccomended Numot i see 😎
God squad for me would be Formal, Bound, Legend and Lucid.
Is that a yawn emoji from space station?
Now NG tweeted there is a rumor Snip3down is coming back to HCS
I don’t think deadzone is going to be staying. If formal wants a god squad i bet he picks up at least Renegade and potentially splits up the trio and nabs Snakebite. Then I’d go for like a Mental, especially if the rumors of Lucid and trip going there end up being true.
Shotzzy would be nice on OG Halo, but OTX won champs so it’s unlikely
yeah i think if Shotzzy was available Renegade would join OpTic
Formal doesnt regret anything he says. Ive been saying optic needed to cut trippy for 3 years now. Deadzone too.
deadzone is the best player on optic lol
deadzone played lights out lmao, drop trippy and pick up a decent upgrade, they win that GF
forma, snakebite, royal 2, frosty
SSG will be difficult in 2025 with all their momentum
If I had to bet on their biggest challenger team;
Formal
Renegade
Lucid
Last Shot
I think lucid and trippy are out, could get renegade, bound, legend etc
Formal is a joke lol there are many players better than him. My God squad (excluding SSG team) would be Renegade, Royal2, Precision, Surpressed
formal with the most wins in multiple games? you’re a waste of oxygen beanbag
Why noone is playing Ranked doubles??
because the bandit is lame
No ones playing infinite in general
He’s obviously calling out Trippy because that’s what everyone says about him.
Formal, lucid, renegade, last shot
Formal thinks he's way better than he actually is.
You're smoking pure Crack
He’s really good under pressure I know that much. I can see how he acts , when most people are freaking out
April fools😂
You are tripping bruv
@@zachbeall6810 this dude smoking rocks
@@JohnTyson46 he never plays obj so when he ends up having the most damage it gives him some God complex. I would love to see him compete and fail yet another year.
Formal, frosty, renegade, last shot
Renegade left C9 because deadzone didn't want it as bad. Formal saying same thing here.
Jon said the team in general didn't care, not just DZ.
Formal, Snakebite, Renegade, and Royal 2 would be nasty.
Duos. Trippy lucid snakebite royal 2 maybe can beat ssg? Formal renegade deadzone frosty? Need lucid renegade formal royal 2 to beat ssg i think. What 4 can beat ssg??
If this happens I say
Formal
Deadzone
Frosty
Renegade
If Lucid doesn’t team with Renegade, no one is beating SSG. Also, Trippy has to go to a low tier team like Native.
No God squad includes Formal. He's too inconsistent across a series to carry a team. The best optic/SR team would be Lucid, Cykel, Mental and Deadzone.
Formal was the most consistent on the team all year
Man I wish Optic would just drop Trippy but Lucid has this weird bromance with him. Season 1 Trippy was a beast but since they switched to bandit starts he's struggled with his consistency
The entire halo tournament scene needs a little shake up. So many players trying to compete at the highest level comparing themselves to some of the best pro players on that team like Ogre 1 and Ogre 2. That's why you have these God squads forming. I can tell you it's just not going to happen to be that dominant for this generation of tactical halo. Formal is really good. His thinking is terrible for future competive halo games.
People sleeping on the goat snakebite is wild
FormaL Frosty Renegade Snakebite make it happen guys
but if ant wants in, Shotzzy FormaL Renegade Frosty is insane
if tommy wants to stay without joey(love u joey) FormaL Lucid Renegade Frosty is filth
Just trying to find the verbmaker hard take
Formal , snakebite, royal 2, frosty
deadzone & formal gotta stay together
Funny how formal speaks while his level is absolutely not at it at all
The only thing I'll say is that it would be 1,000% STUPID if Faze changes their roster.
What is Lucid and Trippey go to Faze, and Frosty and Snakebite go to Optic? idk some combination
@@PSYCHOV3N0M faze definitely getting shaken up
@@C-A-F That's disappointing. They won World 2023 for a reason.
They just need to improve their team coordination and stop over-slaying during OBJECTIVE games.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M a solid team, but struggled all season. Only one major after winning worlds. This next season will be interesting…. I hope no single team is too dominant though.
Formal ran from cod abd thought he could just take over halo. He didn't even earn his spot goes - 10 in slayers.
The dead zone pickup was honestly a mistake. A majority of his Infinite career has been getting 2nd place. Should’ve taken a chance on a young motivated young talent - SSG did that and won 4 chips.
that's silly. They made 6 straight grand finals and he's not the reason they lost them. Deadzone is a monster, i don't think he's ever finished out of the top 4 in any LAN in his halo career.
Deadzone was definitely not a mistake. He played insane and was no doubt an upgrade over apg.
He played well the last 2 events I’m not gonna lie. I didn’t like him before that but last 2 he played lights out!
@facehunter504 i've followed him since he was a halo 5 pro and he's legitimately one of the best players in the world. He is great with obj, is a beast with power weapons but he doesn't need power weapons to effect games
@@8BitChad I think he’s been really good in the past. It just took him a while to gel with Optic.. the last 2 events he dominated
What about lucid and Trippy join Barcode and tapping buttons on Native gaming.
hahahahahaha
Frosty Renegade Formal Soul Snipe
Easily formal renegade frosty and suppressed
Formal + Cratos confirmed
Optic just needed to drop Trippy. Tommy’s tweaking
OpTic Stellur and OpTic Bound
The TRUE god squad would be formal lucid apg and frosty
CTLL
Cykul | Lucid | LastShot | Tusk 😆
SSG going to beat any team. Eco/stellar are the new lunch/roy orge1/2 best duo. They aren't losing and they got bound legend turned them into champions. Bound already passed renegade. Renegade thought he was the better player IDK why
Lucid, Formal, Snakebite, Stellur - my God squad.
That would be an unbeatable team
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Louie Mountain
Formal will get exposed this year.
i kind of agree, i don't think he is the big hitter he thinks he is
Lol
@@Saaayum I'll be loling seeing formal not make top 3 😂
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@@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx9656 his damage output always is near top and he’s fairly consistent. But he really doesn’t “carry the team”. Huge overstatement.
Hickle Greens
Weber Mission
I love Formal and I’m an optic fan but he’s still getting paydays from 2nd. Like he said he’s 30 and after he retires that money will be more important than the chips.
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honestly formal and deadzones need to go either formal retires or goes to another team and deadzone needs to definitely get the boot.they are both ass lucid and trippy need renegade and snakebite
I love Formy to Moon but he choked the HP last clutch play at the Mayor b4 Worlds which lead to the SSG Comeback.
The trouble with optic all season and going forward is that the only players who could fill a spot on the team better than who is already there, is on a better team. Nobody on ssg is switching teams, so there aren't available players unless well established partners break up. R2 and sb are not breaking up to join optic, for example.
I hate rostermania. Much more fun when they stay the same and develop rivalries.
@@cweb1988 nah, shake it up.
Halo Sacks anyway. Im only still invested in this aß Game bc of FormaL. Just lost their magic with Halo Infinite. Reaction was cool, H5 was okay. H3 godlike H2 close. But Infinite is just boring to play and watch. I online watch OpTic matches dont care about any other match. Back in the days i watched every Single match + Eu tourneys. MCC was the best because they had the weekly online tournaments too.
Also let’s not forget lucid and trippy were doing nothing until formal joined, formal was beating them while they were finishing 2-5th they only stayed winning when he joined.
Also renegade> lucid
@@SecretPaintsmate mentality’s like this are why there’s such divisions in the community.
First off, what are you talking about? Formal was literally away from optic for like half a season in the first year 😂 that has 0 relevance going into year 3/4.
And renegade over lucid is subjective. Optic and Faze have the same number of WC’s now. And I think they also still have a better overall record in the 4 year span against faze. I agree individually renegade might be better but he’s also a literal top 5-10 all time halo player, with a team of other all time tops. Optic has formal and lucid, trippy and deadzone are great players, but something with the chemistry doesn’t work. Pinning all these players against each other just makes it seem you have 0 idea how any high level sporting experience goes or just didn’t watch the tournaments? Even rebellion with the right moments could have gotten to grand finals, same with pure. All of these pros can shoot and strafe, it’s the ones with composure like faze and ssg that keep them on top. Optic the same but something isn’t working for them clearly, but it’s not individual play.
lol optic placed 2nd place with ola. only reason they won with formal is cuz renegade stupidly left c9
@@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx9656 stupidly?? 😂 he went to faze and won two majors and worlds and C9 hasn’t broken past 2nd round up until this worlds? I don’t think he considers that stupid.
Formal, Lucid, Bubudubu, Snakebite = God Squad
Formal, Lucid, Royal 2, Snakebite = God Squad
Why are people assuming that FaZe is going to break apart? I think that SSG & FaZe are the only 2 top teams sticking together. The only "God squad" that can possibly be formed for Matt (assuming Lucid & Trippy go elsewhere):
FormaL, Mental, BubuDubu, & LastShot or Precision
& even then, that's still weaker than SSG....
His ONLY other option is if FaZe & Optic make a straight trade between Frosty & Formal. But i doubt that would happen
OPTIC: Lucid, Trippy, DZ, *Frosty*
FaZe: Renegade, SnakeB, Router2, & *FormaL*
@@ROFLgator1 I think they will break. Too disappointing of a season.
@@ROFLgator1 nope, don’t think frosty and lucid would jive.
Formal
Snakebite
Royal 2
Lethal or Mental