Without Salt There's NO High Blood Pressure with Dr C.E. Grim World's Leading Expert on Hypertension
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Dietary Methods To Avoid or Minimize the Need for Medication with Dr, C.E. Grim
May your salt intake and pressure be low!
Clarence Grim BS, MS, MD
Retired (Semi) Professor of Medicine
Medical College of Wisconsin, UCLA and Indiana U.
Board Certified Internal Medicine, Geriatrics, Hypertension Specialist
Specializing in difficult to control high blood pressure for over 50 years. Especially the numerous forms of Primary Aldosteronism.
Mission: Training you and your health care team to get BP, HbA1 and lipids to goal by merging lifestyle and pharmaceutical modalities. A key to these goals is to adopt a DASH eating plan.
Patients can consult with me at www.healthtap.com/experts/354...
My comments regarding diet and blood pressure as well as those related to the physiology of blood pressure control systems must be discussed with your own health care team as they know you the best.
Do not make any changes in your medications or diet without discussing with your team first.
I am available for video consulting at
www.healthtap.com/dr-lowerbp2
Recommending Reading:
Kemper - New York Academy
www.dropbox.com/s/cnpxros7lo6...
How to do the DASH - Grim
www.dropbox.com/s/ovf7gwh4f8c...
I took two blood pressure medications for over thirty years. Four months ago, I completely eliminated added salt and processed foods from my diet. Within three days of starting, I had to stop taking my meds because my BP fell to dangerous levels. I can't believe I wasted all that time and money, not to mention my health!
Was it a vegan diet????
@@sarahjj4131 Yes, I've been vegan for 17 years.
Good to hear Mark, thanks for sharing
Good decision. Well done for doing it.
So you were a vegan for 17 year and had to take 2 blood pressure meds the whole time? Until you gave up salt?...Doesn't make much of a case for the healthiness of being a vegan.
I remember as a child, I used to (unprompted by anything but my own taste preference) leave my food unsalted. Everyone hated my unsalted cooking; and slowly I was convinced to like salt too. But I eventually went full circle, and now I love my unsalted food, as I was born to love;)
My mom was POURING the salt on last year, and she ended up in the ER with a BP of 220/140. Today, no salt, no BP meds, he BP is 130/75.
Table salt umbrella girl salt, no wonder that's poison. Need to eat mineral salt or sea salt
@@lindamacfarlane6817 any table salt is NaCl. Doesn't matter whether it's sea salt or umbrella girl salt, salt is salt.
Oh my Yah!! I so needed to hear this todah for sharing this!!! 😳🤔
@@lindamacfarlane6817 Yeah, like I said. After reading the nutrition information, Redmond salt is salt. There no getting around it, NaCl is NaCl. Redmond just so happens to have a trace of other elements in it, but it's still just salt. Furthermore, if you're getting your nutrition advice from Ken Berry, I fear for your health in a major way. He's 100% a quack.
Peter, 5 year carnivore. Blood pressure 115/65 . Use rdmond salt to taste on meat. Use element electrolytes. I am 75 and run circles around team mates that are 30 something. Yes, I still work. Also work out. Walk 5 miles 3 times a week and power lift. Don't tell me Ken Berry is a quack. Better look at the 1000snd of people who have turned their health around (like me). Following his advice. He'll look at him! Turned his own health around. Your the quack.
Thank you for sharing this interview!! Discovering Dr. C.E. Grim is the highlight of my week!! My blood pressure was 140/100 eating salt which went to 120/80 in 14 days after removing salt and I lost 100lbs with Dr. Kempner’s rice diet! 😃
you removed salt completely? and for how long? i’m wondering if i should cut down the sodium to 0 mg? or just 1000mg a day to start
@@govegan562 we need a little sodium or we can die....the heart association says keep it under 1500mg of sodium per day. I cut out my table salt 100% but still get sodium in foods like whole grain bread etc but keep my sodium levels 1000 or less. Each person is different and its always best to check with your doctor.
@@kenpcais your bp low without medication
Im still pretty young and thought salt and caffeine were not having any effect on my BP…… well gave them up and feels so much better !
Excellent. This show answered so many questions I had. More of this doc please.
I needed to watch this because I’m on the salt struggle bus. It encourages me to stay the course.
Did you stick to it
@@gabys2 I’m very low salt, and still striving. My blood pressure has very much improved
WOW, I'm blown away,AJ and chat had so many great questions,another great show.❤🎉
This is one of the most important shows you've ever had. Thank you so much
I agree 100%
Agree, too!
Thank you Doctors for not shying away from talking about us called African Americans I find that sometimes, many times none black people feel that just at the mention of us, that they may be accused of different things. I appreciate this conversation a lot!! 🙌🏾
I have definitely back my sodium intake down some, but I’m encouraged to try to eliminate except for the little that’s needs, of course it’ll take me a little time to get all the way there, as cooking at home EVERY NIGHT, these days is almost impossible to do. 🧏🏽♀️Again many thanks.
I agree! We do better when we know better.
What a great doctor. 🌻🌻
Such an excellent show. All the things that people want to know and need to know about blood pressure,too much salt, etc. The doctor is really good at explaining as much as he can about any questions anybody had .💪🏻
Great interview with Dr Grim! He is delightful!
I do perfectly fine without adding salt. But adding salt still makes me overeat. I had something salty the other day and immediately got really thirsty. That was my body trying to water it down.
What an amazing guest! I learned so much. Thank you Chef AJ and Dr. Grim - fascinating!
What a fascinating interview!! Thanks so much to you both!! ❤🧡💛
This isn't 100% true. Sometimes blood pressure is a symptom of other issues, not just salt intake.
What a great man, and he gave so many leads to further research. Bravo 👏
Great interview! Thanks to both of you!😊
BEST INTERVIEW EVER !!!!!!!!
This was an amazing interview! Thank you so much.
Thank you, AJ, for doing this 🙏 wonderful interview 👏 🙌 🙏 👍 ❤️ on salt 😊
Really excellent interview. Very helpful. Thank you both!
Absolutely loved this quest.
😢missed notification but I'll watch it now ! I LUV AJ.❤🎉
Great interview!
I love your videos, and all the wonderful health information you bring to all of us, thank you so much for doing this interviews with these wonderful people that you find.
“I don’t eat food with labels” classic! 🌞
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Great talk much appreciated
Great show!!
Great information, thank you to you & your awesome guest, Chef AJ😊 I learned much to help me with my salt love-affair. I've been cutting back & this really motivates me to do even more. I am finding a little salt with squeezed lemon really help me cut down.
Great talk. Thanks!
Quality q&a. What a lovely man. Chef AJ lovely too. Would love to know if Dr Greger is wrong about miso.
Chef AJ is such a wonderful hostess 🥰
Hi AJ, salt therapy rooms are for treating respiratory conditions. They are great for clearing out mucus and phlegm from sinuses, throat and lungs. I hear that it's great for people with cystic fibrosis. I have been in one and it's very relaxing, chair can be reclined, music is calming. According to the information I received the small amount of salt inhaled will not affect things like BP.
Salt is an antihistamine & helps with depression. Antidepressants are loaded with sodium
People with cystic fibrosis actually lose more salt in their sweat than people without CF.
Chef AJ, Not sure if mentioned that The Dash Diet isn't vegan. Just starting to listen to the show. Can't wait.
Thank you so much Chef AJ for asking the question about African Americans and salt 💚😊.
Wondering how old this Dr is, I love this interview
Fantastic video!
Thank you so much!!!
You're very welcome!
Thanks you both
This may be true, even for most people, but my hypertension has been resistant to salt reduction and bp meds. Unfortunately, no underlying cause has been discovered. So, cannot take steps to reduce. However, I still do a whole foods diet as it has helped my health in other ways, such as getting rid of diabetes, high cholesterol and high triglycerides.
Do you exercise regularly? Maybe check with your doctor to see if that could help?
I pray your BP normalizes!
Same boat... except no diabetes
Are you on angiotensin meds or calcium channel blockers? Those medications screw with your adrenal glands and heart muscle. I’d talk to your doctor about switching your diuretic if you’re on one to chlorthalidone, the least dangerous of the other diuretics. Also, you have to find a way to incorporate foods with high potassium levels. Double up on your potassium, and unfortunately if you don’t cut out meat with severe uncontrolled htn, it will never get down. You have to eliminate all meat, poultry and fish from the diet. I’m speaking from experience unfortunately 🥲
@@Darkempress45 I don't eat meat, dairy, or eggs. No salt. no sugar. Rarely any oil. Losartan, as other scripts they've tried, brings my BP to 155/90. When my arthritis and fibro allow me to get good exercise, I can do that well without the meds.
@@splendiforous265I'm very late to commenting but you should cut out wheat if you still have arthritis, if you're still eating it. That is the highest inflammatory for any kind of joint pain or arthritis. You will start to notice a difference in a little as three days.
I liked the interview very much, but I would like to hear his complete thoughts on a subject without being interrupted and distracted to a new question or thought by the interviewer. For just one of the many examples, when he was trying to tell us about Dr Frederick Luft. Thank you for (hopefully) considering this. 🙏
What a fascinating interview :) thank you
Great interview. Cleared a lot questions about salt & BP. Thanks 🙂👍
The "Salt Room" question - I know these from Germany, they're not chic cafes - although some make it really nice with chaise lounge chairs, colored lights ... In certain areas there are natural salt caves and people with certain alliments go under ground and breath in the salt air. Think about how some people feel better when they spend time at salt water vacation spots? Every kid in Berlin gets told they have bronchitis or asthma. They go home to the sea and all of their problems disappear. I never looked into them, but I know these places exist. You are not breathing in "salt" dust, as the doctor said might happen in industrial production.
He answered the questions I had about sodium, like miso being ok and sweating too much on a low salt diet.
We sweat loads playing badminton and stopped salt and sure enough our blood pressures reduced.
Awesome interview 👏 🙌 👍 👌 😎 as always. Hi AJ, What is the website where I can order the dash diet book,Ĺ.
I didn't find 😕 in on Amazon. Thank you
My well water taste salty. I'm scared to drink it cause I'm on a low sodium diet. Thanks and God bless you and your family ✝️💕Will the rice make your blood sugar go up because of carbs?
These is powerful, Doc at time when I get to a car with mary people I feel getting short of air.I have blood pressure
Hello dr, what about fermented foods in moderation?
so do you eat salt if you have low blood pressure ?
Best episode ever! 🎉
A squeeze of lemon is a good salt substitute 🍋🍋 I think it's a good idea to keep a glass of water 💦 on hand, though, to rinse the mouth thoroughly afterwards, as lemon juice can damage tooth enamel. Also best to wait for at least an hour after consuming 🍋 before brushing one's teeth.
I will have to try lemon....i eat them and use potassium salt substitute but will try lemon on rice or something :)
@@kenpca If you squeeze a little lemon juice into soup or over other dishes just before serving it tends to enhance the flavour of the dish.
Yes lemon, and vinegar! I thought it was a farce until I tried it, it works!
Lime even tastes saltier!
@@mrscliquot Good to know. Thank you!
Someone liked the Salt Room post... This just occurred to me - the Dead Sea is famous for skin problems. People go there to float, you are not drinking it.
What about the aluminum in salt as a non caking agent?
I have CKD and need to cut down on potassium.
What is the name of the eye condition please...as have AMD wet and dry?...i feel as if oxalates and calcium iş wrecking my eyes.....
I have never added salt...my only fats were in nuts and seeds...my serum k is at the top of the index and my serum sodium is at the bottom...sometimes below the index.. I eat no processed food. I eat only fruits and vegetables...yet I have had very high bp since my fifties. I have never understood it. My doc is concerned about my low blood sodium.
Yeah check with your doctor.....Do you eat a whole food plant based diet including beans and grains with your fruits and veggies?
FWIW, Dr. Barnard in a youtube video recommends or suggests that those on a low salt vegan diet, whole foods, add good old fashioned Morton IODIZED salt to meals after cooking, just a pinch. His main point was to make sure adequate iodine intake. I carefully measured how much salt is in "my" pinch, and it's less than 1/4 teaspoon, i.e. less than 500 mg. I add that only twice a day, to my morning salt free oatmeal, and on my dinner over no salt rice/veggies. Rest of day only other salt I get is in a slice of toasted whole grain wheat bread, maybe a half teaspoon of butter over potato, 8 ounces of soy or almond milk, that's it. I've done the calculations on exactly what I ate that day a few times and my total averages about 1.300 to 1.700 mgs. On rare occasions when I know I had too much salt, maybe with family or friends at restaurant or special occasion, I mix 1,000 mg of potassium (1/2 teaspoon salt substitute) in half cup of water to drink....I don't know if this is worthless or not to counter the excess sodium, but it's what I do.
Why white rice and not whole grain rice?
YES YES YES!
Fat Like Us was written by Jean Renfro-Anspaugh
It’s hard to know what is true. I’ve heard Joel Wallach say that calcium is the key to lower blood pressure and that salt is important to us. Perhaps if you go on super stringent diet of rice and fruit only, you can lower pressure, but is that sustainable these days?
Excellent presentation, thank you. Question, if salt is a dice of death and so is sugar, is eating a lot of sugar cane harmful? Thank you
Not true. Dr Kempner used sugar in his protocol for the very sick not to lose too much weight. He said the body runs on it. Now I think if you're overweight I wouldn't add if calories are a program. His diet was high starch and fruit so high carbs unprocessed, no junk.
My grandfather was one of those that would put salt on his food before even tasting it. He lived to 103.
I do hardly any
There is too much Salt, Oil and Sugar in processed foods today. (SOS)
People need to take personal responsibility for their life and health.
The general over all health of people has declined the last few decades.
Even children today have signs of artery disease. Fast foods and sugary drinks have long term consequences.
There is an obesity epidemic today where over 60% of the population is overweight or obese.
What is common today and "NORMAL" is not healthy. The average person today is not healthy and is taking medications.
Heart attacks were once only common in people over 65. Today people in their 40 are having heart attacks.
Add more plants and vegetables to your diet and less junk and overly processed foods. Being thin is a sign of good health. Being over weight or obese is a sign of bad health. Poor diet, lack of exercise and obesity are contributing to high blood pressure, heart disease, diabetes and cancer.
Salt is not iodised in Europe, so we most likely need to eat sea vegetables, yes? Salt in bread, etc. is not iodised in our part of the world.
So are you alloud to eat white rice and fruit.
Can you eat veg as well
Yes veg is good 2
A painful health situation controls behavior. EX: If you’re overweight and unhappy enough about it and it becomes painful then you finally do something about it.
I eat a lot of pink and grey salt (only) I have always had hypotension. My blood pressure averages about 80/50. I do swell up after eating. I’m on a strict WFPB diet except I drink coffee and drink wine. The fact that I swell up from salt shows it’s effect on my body, even if I have low blood pressure. I do have a tendency for pre-diabetic high blood sugar and high bad cholesterol despite being WFPB, no oils, this is a genetic component from my father’s side who had diabetes and cardio vascular disease on the standard American diet. I started running 1 mile every morning, this may lower my bad cholesterol, need to get my blood tested again next month. If I had definite information that salt was a detriment to my health, I would stop consuming it…refined salt is unhealthy, but all the minerals in grey and pink salt might be healthy????
Search youtube for Dr Ken Berry. He has videos on almost every subject.
@@teret6719 i wouldnt recommend him...he is a bit out there in conflict with science often times.
Very good talk today! I learned more about sodium and blood pressure today than years of Dr. appts, lectures, reading, etc. Thank you Chef AJ and Dr Grim! My husband has DM type 2, HTN, and CKD stage 4. This info is huge for his (and my) health. (I'm a long-standing sodiumaholic. )
Love "I'll go to McDonald's & get a pack of iodized salt" lol
Dr. Grim, I’m going to try no salt for 2 weeks and see what my blood pressure does. I believe it isn’t healthy to eat salt, even though my blood pressure is low. The salt might be making my heart enlarge and swell, not sure if there’s a non-invasive test for the effect of salt on heart size.
Oh wow...please check with your doctor....praying you get all healed up!
If your blood pressure is low then you do not have HTN. It is impossible to have an enlarged heart if you haven’t had a heart attack and your heart muscle is healthy.
I have calcification in my eye order and Anna risen 4.5 outside of my I have asthma just to give you two things I have wondered if this would be a good diet for me and I only weigh like 105 pounds. I’m skinny too skinny.? Thank you do much
The calcification is in the aorta of my heart and a aneurysm measure in 4.5 outside of my aorta.
Trying to correct the comment the question that I put there voice recognition, and it totally came out different than what I said
Potassium and salt regulate the water table in the body without salt our organs shut down because salt is an electrolyte, fruits and mostly vegetables are rich in minerals such as potassium calcium, magnesium, manganese, proteins, fats, phosphorous, iron, vitamins C etc.
What is Dash Diet?I would like to know more details about thanks
more main stream but similar to the Rice Diet and allows animal protein and higher in calories
Salt was originally used as legal tender.
Worth their weight in salt
My sodium got to low when I went no salt. I don't go crazy with it.
My chronically low sodium can only be controlled by lightly salting my food.
What is the name of the App he keeps mentioning??
Cronometer
I definitely know that salt will raise your blood pressure… but you should include sugar. If I eat too much it seems to create high blood pressure problem too!
Does dr McDougal say limiting salt only drops high bp by a few points but it's the rest of the diet that brings down high bp..... is he wrong?
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You cannot make such a generalization. My sodium is only 128. I cannot restrict it in spite of hypertension. I have to restrict fluids, take salt tablets and lasix. People whose sodium is too low can have a seizure and die.
Potassium does wonders for high blood pressure.
Lowering your sodium level does too.💪🏻
Yes it does. Magnesium is another mineral we are low in. We're suppose to get over 4000 milligrams of potassium a day and over 300 milligrams of magnesium a day. Most people aren't getting that. I read where we loose nitric oxide which keeps the blood vessels relaxed. Beets and other foods can contain nitric oxide.
@@RichS.73yroldbodybuilder i’ll show you tons of people who’ve lowered their sodium levels, but then increase their potassium levels and still have blood pressure problems. They both work in combination. I’ll also show you people who did not change their sodium levels, yet increase their potassium levels and their blood pressure went down. Most people walking around out there now are dehydrated. Want to lower your sodium levels? Drink more water
@@face1647 agree! Most people don’t even realize that dehydration also raises blood pressure and how many people are walking around out there not completely hydrated.
What is rice fruit diet would really really like to know.
Please consider watching either (or both!) of these videos about the Rice Diet.
th-cam.com/users/liveJB5TtKkq1ug
th-cam.com/users/liveV69CC7kBKOY
Will sure do. Thankyou
Health care costs are out of control. Going WFPB vegan can save money, pain and suffering from disease.
Lower your chance of high blood pressure, heart disease and cancer by going vegan. Hospitals, doctors offices and schools should be places where good nutrition is taught and provided not places that contribute to disease and obesity. It is crazy the hospitals are feeding people the very food that caused the heart disease, high blood pressure or cancer that they are treating. Every person in the hospital should receive some nutrition education before being released. Every doctor visit should be an opportunity to educate patients about how food choices impacts their health outcomes. The fact that doctors do not get nutrition training as part of their training makes no sense. Medicare and Medicaid should require nutrition education as part of patient care. Focus should be on food choices.
Always about the money 💰💰💰💰💰💰
Can you follow the Dash Diet with stage 3 CKD ? please
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Animal products like chicken in grocery store are often injected with salt!
And hornones, etc
Chef AJ: is soy sauce and fish sauce also a No?
Fish sauce is not vegan, and both are high in sodium if you're asking in reference to blood pressure
It’s not just salt though
In America, eat too much salt in diets, bad for the Heart ❤
Cheese itz need to be reclassified as a drug🧡💊
LOL!
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@@CHEFAJhello if you see this want to ask one question about you
@@Blu-Man please send any questions to help@chefaj.com
Sugar does all these bad things too
I dont know...i"m 20+ minutes in and havent heard any data on causation. The control diet and dash changed so many variables that it renders it useless in pointing to any one thing as causation. And the anecdotal people given as examples were all instances of extreme weight loss.
Dont white potatoes spike blood sugar..so fix one and spoil one
Potatoes themselves are not bad for you. What people put on them gives them a bad name. So eat them without butter, bacon, salt, etc
@@splendiforous265 ❤just had some in my chicken feet soup😁😁😁😁😁
Yummy chicken foot soup..send me some nuh
I appreciate dr obulor on TH-cam for helping me suppress my high blood pressure with his medication🙏🙏.
I heard salt was good for adrenal fatigue
Sodium, not salt. Big difference.
@@mara3842 but people use salt. Maybe post what should be used in place of salt. I do eat olives once in a while or seaweed and nori.
@@candlelady239 I use Redmonds real salt
@@mara3842 one video says salt is bad for your kidneys but then another video says salt is good for the adrenals. What has me confused is how could that be when they are both connected?
@@81redddd maybe test what amount you can use and still have a good BP reading. There's a huge range and Americans eat way too much. I try for less than 1200mg.
You should get Jamie Oliver on your show ! A chief who has loads of experience cooking !
Sorry for the Dr., but his phlem problem was disgusting to listen to....had to leave.
😂 Maybe he needs some salt 🧂
I hear it's great at clearing up your sinuses and sore throat!!!
So that mean you have a short attention span simple and you don't want the info !!
And if you had really left you wouldn't have put it in the comments so plz stop it !!
I don’t hear phlegm, just a gravelly voice. I am surprised you would criticize this excellent doctor.