Incredible courage to share vulnerability and personal experience. Thank you Peter and Rich for in-depth emotional sharing. The huge takeaway is neuro plasticity that the negative self talk and monkey chatter can be healed. DBT is an extremely powerful therapy to help. The pain and emotional reactivity can be healed. Thank you for the very powerful podcast.
This is fantastic. I've never heard Peter like this before, and his huskier-than-usual voice adds to the sense that we are seeing a different side of him.
Such a moving conversation. Thank you, Dr. Attia, for your willingness to be so open & honest about your experiences & your path to wellness. So many of us have gone through or are going through similar struggles. This conversation and your book are going to help countless people. ❤❤❤
I agree with the person who said this is one of the best podcasts! Two highly intelligent people sharing their knowledge with brilliant clarity and empathy! WOW...I'm so grateful. Thank you both!!!
Wow…!! Fascinating, smart and vulnerable!! Emotional health is key!! Exercise, absolutely!! The talk about diet…as someone plant based for specific reasons, it’s understandable how it’s still a personal topic. This was well worth 3 hrs 👏
Thank you again for a great informative episode. Things would be different if health costs were built into all products like a VAT (value added tax). Thus price of high fructose corn syrup and all other poisons would shoot up. I'm a libertarian so you want to drink 64 Oz high sugary drink your choice but pay for your health costs.
What about giving sugar to children? We associate as commonplace and acceptable the idea of candy with children. “Like a child in a candy store”. Halloween is all about stuffing children’s little faces with candy. Is that OK and not a running start to a major LRA?
I see it as IF you have no systemic inflammation, no excess of oxidative stress , no insulin resistance, you are simply very healthy. You can eat foods high in cholesterol and saturated fats all day and you will be ok. But like 90% of people have excess of inflammation and oxidative stress which will damage the cholesterol in your blood and can cause issues. Also there is no question that refined vegetable oils high in omega 6 are easily oxidized and are pro inflammatory. So eating something like eggs fried in sunflower oil will be the worst thing that you can eat.. I would say for most people low fat plant based diet is the safest way of eating. But I don't think that you have to be 100% vegan. Here and there some very lean meat like chicken or fish and here and there high omega 3 fish like sardines or salmon is probably a good idea.. To keep good intake of bioavailable protein and also EPA/DHA..
I agree with most of this. It’s well founded. Except the low fat plant based diet part because we evolved on fatty ruminant meat and your body needs that fat for optimal cellular health.
This is a fascinating interview. I had never heard Peter speak and I didn't know who he was when I started listening. My very first thought when the interview began was that his fear and insecurity was palpable and that I would never go to him for medical treatment.
I discovered Rich Roll early on in his Podcast career. Rich has grown into one of the best interviewers in the industry. I feel smarter, motivated, and more empathetic after listening to him. Someone once said that people come in and out of your life, some add to your life and others subtract, Rich has definitely added to mine and I’m a better person for it.
I wish that my son could have heard this and received the help that he needed. His self hatred was horrible. He took his life May, 2023. I applaud your vulnerability! This will truly help so many.
Deep respect for *Mrs.* Attia. I'd be very interested to hear her perspective and story. She, and others like her, who stand by their significant others as they work through their struggles, while typically juggling parenting responsibilities and day to day life - I'd like to know what anchored her? How did she have the strength to kick him out, then later have the empathy and openness to let him back in? How did she keep herself grounded and steady? And where does that conviction and strength come from and how to foster it?
As a man who caused my wife a lot of grief before I began to understand why I acted the way I did for so many years I can only say thank goodness for a significant other who tolerated those of us who have personal issues to work through. Much like Peter I have a lot to make up for.
Very very relatable. I'm currently experiencing the same mental collapse after YEARS of being a productive overachiever that has neglected emotional development. This has caused a serious personality "condition" for me. Which has giving me great success, and has pulled me out of a bad childhood, but the cracks are showing. My old mental software is no longer serving me and needs a major update for my new reality. As Peter said: "What got you here, won't get you there." I'm only seeing this now. Living for the Ego while neglecting the Self is a terrible tradeoff that WILL come back to hunt you. Completely understand the mindset of, "but will I still be good enough if I lose this version of me?" Respect to Peter for sharing. I have already preorder his book on Audible.
Beautiful. For many years Peter was so neurotic and obsessed with optimizing performance and longevity, yet neglecting emotional health. I'm glad it's his priority now, as it should be for all of us. Longevity, without well-being is pointless. Finally he gets it.
I’ve followed Peter for years… SO happy to hear *this* side of his personal (mental/emotional) struggles&growth. Thank you BOTH for the work here to get a conversation out that needs spoken - and is so hard to find.
Congratulations to Peter Attia for taking the active steps to self-learning, recognition, and the learning of coping skills to recovery, and sharing his story to help others. And Rich Roll, of all people, is the perfect advocate- insightful, empathetic, articulate, and supportive.
I've listened to Peter off and on for years and while he doesn't strike me as dishonest, I've found a lot of the information he puts out to be a little confusing, and in conflict with what many others say. It seems he's come around to a more moderate place regarding diet, but I find his ambivalence towards polyunsaturated fats a bit strange, as pretty much everyone I've heard talk about lipids, other than the hardcore carnivore people, seem to agree that they're remarkably beneficial especially in place of saturated fats, more so than monounsaturated fats and even fibrous carbs by some accounts. Simon Hill talks to Tom Dayspring about this in a recent Proof episode. Anecdotally, adding more nuts, seeds, avocado, and a couple weekly servings of salmon to my previously low fat diet helped drop my LDL a further 25 points, and it was already in normal range. I also disagree completely that statins are a must in order to achieve a healthy lipid profile. It seems strange to me to put so much emphasis on exercise while downplaying the role of nutrition to the point you're willing to just medicate away the negative side effects without pushing back and offering some education. Also, as someone who used to powerlift, even at my most meathead-y, I never could have eaten my bodyweight in protein and not felt like a bloated mess. That seems insane to me. I think Rich was correct. The issue with loss of lean mass isn't because, in a country where there's a burger joint on every corner, people are protein deficient. It's a lack of activity, and specifically strength-building activity.
This is one of the best podcast episodes I’ve ever listened to. Rich does such an amazing job of interviewing Peter and Peters vulnerability is inspiring!
@@meghan42 yes love, I just found it odd the person said it was one of the best...it wasnt just the delivery it was the content. However, it's my job to find the love. x
@@lisetteem588 I kind of feel the same. His honesty at least is something, but to have gone for so long with so little insight was somewhat bizarre. And for what? To have a physiological balance between nutrition, sleep and exercise? That was a high price to pay for his long term emotional disfunction. And yet, I must say, it was compulsive, thought provoking listening, with Rich seeming to manage a large toxic creature with amazing compssion. I was routinely beaten by my mother as a child, so I have sympathy for anyone who has to work through that as an adult. And frankly it is bloody complicated, as I have put my own life on hold for two years to care for that abusive mother in her rapidly declining old age. This guy's obsession with fame for something nearly destroyed his life. And, his wife Esther deserves a medal!
it is kinda crazy that he's telling people to eat animal products and go on statins! madness. i just don't buy that we don't know a ton about diet. it might not be in the form a math proof but it's rediculous to expect that anyway.
Gentlemen, your willingness to dredge deeply and bring hidden layers of the unwanted and unacknowledged into the light bespeaks levels of courage I admire more than words can describe. Thank you both, on this first day of Spring, 2023.
As a veteran that suffers from depression, I can't think of anyone that has helped me understand health and longevity more than Dr. Attia. How blessed we are to have doctors like this.
@@orion9k I think this is far too harsh of a criticism and standard. I understand holding people accountable of doing what they preach, but Peter is all that as well. Life, it isn't so simple. It's so difficult to do all this, it's challenging to balance your health and emotions. So a person who's genuinely interested in the betterment of his health, other's health, and for someone who's willing to grow and learn, I'm absolutely putting my money on Peter of all people.
@@contentconsumer4145 I would not put my money on him, he seems like he has fallen to the victim mentality, going into trauma states of mind etc. he is slowly deteriorating through a dangerous ideology.
@@orion9k An who even are you to him. Lol. we're all victims my guy, idk what to tell you if that hasn't occurred to you yet. Peter has just managed to filter out when he actually is the victim vs where he is responsible. That's a mega necessary skill for life in general.
"Family pathology rolls from generation to generation like a fire in the woods taking down everything in it's path until one person in one generation has the courage to turn and face the flames. That person brings peace to his ancestors and spares the children that follow." -Terry Real Excellent work Rich. Thank you for your service.
Very few know or understand this reality. I can assure you that it is next to impossible to get the next generation moving in the right direction; everyone believes that they can take care of themselves properly.It's greater than tragic. Sadly, people need to find themselves, because they will not believe anyone other than themselves. People need to be open and honest as parents, as children, as partners. How many people can truly communicate feelings and emotions? Can you? Dr. Attia is in the heart of his healing; he's a great doctor - listening to his wisdom on heath, finally allows me to sleep through the night, using the supplements he recommends. Driven people discover eventually, and learn, that they need a clone to relax and live a "normal" life. I know exactly how he suffers; healing requires enormous strength. Is this why most cannot confront themselves?
@@bellakrinkle9381 As the Jesuit's say. Give me the child until 10 years of age and I will show you the man. Perception, comprehension, beliefs , ethics and morals are all programmed in the child by their environment and those they depend on. Even in the womb they are aware of anger and violence and love and caring and music etc even if they have no words or understanding they absorb the emotions that will shape them for life. as part of their reality. The origin of the generational family or tribal curse
I am not even through this podcast yet, but the sharing and the raw honesty is what truly helps people relate. Thank you both. Mental health issues are real for everyone and no amount of success or money makes you immune to their grasp.
I agree with you. And, I’m disheartened by some of the earlier comments that focus on superficialities like whether Peter’s speech flowed and the judgmental attitude. Those kinds of comments are exactly why people are reluctant to expose their faults. Grateful that Peter has done so. Rich handled it all beautifully.
Rich is being very generous here with Peter on diet and disease. he knows it's not as complicated as Peter is making it out to be but plays along as to not get into a ridiculous argument with Attia talking in circles. Peter straight up says that no diet can take lipids down to a level that makes you heart disease proof. absolutely untrue. kinda wish Rich pushed a litttllleee bit but oh well
Thanks for your insight, Dr. Dysart. Sigh. At the risk of projecting, I’m gonna assume you refer to a vegan diet? Yes, Vegans do die from heart disease. Genetics are a thing and Dr. Attia would say as much so yes, there is no diet that will lower your lipids to a level that completely eliminates heart disease if you are genetically predisposed to it. Out of all the things to take out of this amazing conversation…
@@JB-hq9yj doesn't have to be vegan. could just be a diet incredibly low in saturated fat. I myself am not vegan but mostly pescetarian as I eat fish 3 days out of the week. Obviously there will be outliers with insanely bad genetics but for 99.9 percent of people you could make them effectively immune from cardiovascular disease with a diet with insanely low saturated fat, small amounts of mono and omega 3s, and that consists of complex starches, fruits, and legumes.
@@christopherdysart1136 We are going to have to agree to disagree. I appreciate your anecdotal evidence, however, familial high cholesterol is not "insanely bad genetics" it's quite common and diet alone, particularly as you age will not "make you heart disease proof" as you say. This is well researched if you care to look at pubmed or its equivalent. I'm going to bow out of this conversation now, you don't need me to tell you this, the information is out there and has been for years.
Yeah, thanks for this comment. I was actually listening to another podcast with Dr. Attia, and his assertion that atherosclerosis can't be prevented without pharmacotherapy seemed to contradict everything I've learned about the effect of vegan diets, MUCH of that through Rich's own podcast. So I had hoped to hear some pushback on that here, but ah well. He does offer so much aside from that. I'm glad at least one person spoke up!
Awesome conversation, thank you so much Rich and Dr. Attia. Very informative and moving to see 2 guys seeing so open and vulnerable - very brave. I’m probably a good 10 years older than both of you and perhaps too far behind the curve to catch up, but this convo has inspired me to at least try. Again, thank you.
This was a powerful podcast. I acknowledge both of you for your vulnerability to focus this conversation on your mental and emotional health. This is what inspires and gives others permission to seek help for themselves. I spent 6 years doing this type of work and I am now a pretty well ground 60+ year old. The pain of doing this type of work is worth it.
Depression and burnout in men is often reflected in overworking, obsession with sports or gaming… this sharing of a personal journey is an important gift to the world. Thank you, Dr. Attia and Rich.
That was beautifully profound and heartfelt. As a regular consumer of both of these gentlemen's podcasts, I was deeply moved by how open and honest Mr. Attia was about his struggles. As someone who suffers from trauma, I found his journey both inspiring and illuminating. To think that someone who has achieved so much in such a wide range of pursuits, has an amazing life and friends, and has the guts to talk about his shortcomings is mind blowing. This could help so many men struggling with their own issues to gain the courage to seek help. I have nothing but the utmost respect for both of you.
I'm envious these people have access to such high quality emotional healthcare. I know of a few that could benefit from it if given the chance. Thing is, they're never getting it. Not in the 4.75 minutes in their GP's office. Not even if they seek it themselves. Once again, privilege=access.
Outstanding interview. I am a huge Attia fan, but was not surprised about his story. The way he just takes everything to the extreme, comes through in his interviews and podcast.
Simple ,go back to nature as close as possible,as our ancestors as our bodies are still working at that level and did not change to deal with highly refined food,stress,sedentary life,toxic air ,water and soil ,no faith ,EMF .
I woke up at 2.30am with this podcasrt playing in my ear. It was so phenomenal that I have stayed up to finish it. I wish Peter knew how sharing his story is going to impact many people's lives and even affect generations of families . Thank you Peter for doing this podcast with Rich. I am 70, still healthy, but definitely have slowed down due to some past injuries. To me chronic pain has been my bugga boo to deal with as I age. Perhaps you can talk about this in a future podcast. It is a real issue for many aging seniors. In order to exercise and avoid osteoporosis I need to be able to move and exercise. This requires pain meds which doctors do not like to prescribe. I hope you do a podcast about this subject sometime in the future. It is a real component of aging for many of us. You cannot imagine how much knowledge I have had to learn and put into practice to be able to stay active yet there are many things I can no longer do .
At 72 I understand. Now add a 2 year grandson that I have adopted. He keeps me running most of the time and so far I’m blessed with good health. But I need all the info that these amazing podcasts offer.
I would love that topic as well. I live with and take care of my 83 yr old mom. She has so many issues yet gets through the pain daily. I don’t want to be 83 if it’s gonna be that way. The Silent Generation are struggling- it’s a sad thing.
Can't even adequately express how much I enjoyed hearing Rich and Peter visit. I've been a fan of both for quite a while now and after hearing them bare their souls in this interview I've adding them to my daily prayer list. You are both SO precious. God bless each of you as you pursue truth in your lives.
I love this conversation so much! Having watched this and also the Huberman lab podcast, I must say I am by far more moved by Attias energy while in the presence of Rich Roll. Roll has a generosity of spirit and unparalleled ability to bring out the best in people.
Ive lost my health, job, home, car, wife left me, declared myself homeless and see my kids every second weekend. My story is not unique - Ones experience of suffering is relevant to that inidvidual. Rock bottom for someone is luxury and to others its hell. Take someone with terminal illness they would look at my life and tell me to count my blessing im still here
Good podcast but disagree with health influencers like Peter who verbosely make nutrition and health out to be a differential equation. Whole foods, mostly plants, not too much. It's absurd to think most people need 1g/lb of protein or need to track their daily amino acid ratio.
The prescription, in the vast majority of cases, is simple: whole food, plant based nutrition. Even Okinawan peasants in the 20s, largely pre modern medicine, lived an average 89 years. We know from population studies, and the ability to process huge amounts of data with computers, what works! Yes the science is complex, but most of us do great just following the prescribed diet and lifestyle practices!
Well, I wish my comments would be unique, but after reading a handful of the existing comments, I can only acknowledge what others have already said much more eloquently than I could. Once again Rich pulls off another deep and moving conversation. Dr. Attia deserves a LOT of credit here for opening up like this. I'm sure that must have been difficult, but end result is I'm sure it will likely benefit thousands of people. He's a class act for sure. This is another "must listen to multiple times" episode of the RRP.
I listened and thought this was the definition of privilege. Dr Attia has stressful episodes in his life and immediately gets checked into great mental health facilities. I teach high school students in a rural area who desperately need therapy and cannot get to see anyone...
Wow A beautiful and powerful show of strength. I tuned in to learn about the importance of nutrition etc and get floored by the honesty with the rabbit hole of traumas' long-term effects to health This is my second favorite Rich Roll podcast - wonderfully done. My first is finding your podcast for the first time
Talk about turning something simple into something unnecessarily complicated. When it comes to cardiovascular health, look at populations who already have incredibly low rates, such as the vegans in Loma Linda, California. They have what may well be the healthiest, longest life spans. Okinawans come in second place for longevity and health. They’re 98% vegan. No need to reinvent the wheel, guys. A far more insightful interview is Rich Roll’s with Dr. Greger, here on this channel.
So dang good you guys. I'm also an ex-work-addict physician who's gone thru my own healing journey so I absolutely receive all of this. Thanks for putting it out there. ❤
Once again, we're never going to put a dent into healthspans when the primary thing that stands between you and the healthcare you need is money. Even when you filter out risk factors like smoking, poor diet, exercise and stress, the single largest limiting factor remains income. Income limits not just like access to treatment, but proactive testing, and even things like nutritional education.
I’ve seen nearly all of your vlog episodes Rich and Peter, I feel like I know you both quite well, this one is incredible. You are both human and listening to what you share here elevated my well being immensely. Thank you.
I have attempted to meditate many times in my life and prior to this CD the only success I've experienced is with live guided meditation. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxzpa8CIfZcihW4Z0F_ja0QF3W9KIatrsq This is the first CD I've used that cuts through my unmedicated ADHD and enables me to truly relax and experience a quiet and energizing interval. The instructors voice is very soothing and pleasant to listen to. I am easily able to sit successfully through the entire CD, and for quite some time after. I cannot adequately express how tremendously helpful this CD has been on my spiritual journey!! Two thumbs up and 10 stars!
Attia is an emotional mess - I regret being compulsively honest; my childhood was a disaster. Instead of deciding for a marriage and children, I wanted to sort myself out, first. It's taken a life time, but now I have equanimity and like myself. Most choose our life before we know who we are, and suffer the consequences. No matter what choices we make, life is hard.
Peter, I have followed your work for about seven years. Listening to your story of "losing it" was so powerful. Thank you for ALL you do - your work as a doc, your honesty sharing about yourself now. How many of us live wasting our lives trying when we just need to be and accept the beauty of life. Thank you.
27 min in. I’m really confused on how Peter could be so concerned about atherosclerosis when he spent multiple years consuming a ketogenic diet, which notoriously raises your lipids.
@@alex_4trth Of course they are. Atherosclerosis is defined as cholesterol accumulation inside of foam cells in the artery wall. High blood cholesterol is causal for that, saturated fats are causal for raising of the cholesterol level.
As I listen to his humility and openness I just feel a swell of happiness for him and gratitude to him. Peters words of his dark moments, healing and insights are so beautiful and important. Thank you both so much! ☺️
Wow. Such courage to share your shadow self. We all have them to varying degrees but few of us have the courage to share like this. You will give many people hope that we can push through our shadow selves. It’s so hard to love ourselves but it’s key to everything. Healing takes a lifetime. Keep going for you and your family and as an example for all of us ❤️
Rich Roll is a truly great ambassador for Vegans in the sense that he's willing to listen to, and have a discussion with someone like Peter Attia who obviously has a different diet/lifestyle philosophy.
I stopped listening to Peter Attia’s podcast for awhile because he seemed quite OCD about his diet and exercise and it seemed a bit on the unhealthy side. I now understand that CONTROL over every part of his exercise, diet (life choices) etc is likely trauma-based. I appreciate that he shared his trauma even though it was uncomfortable for him. ❤️❤️❤️
OCD is not an adjective. It's a debilitating mental illness. It's ranked number 7 of most debilitating conditions by the world health organization. That's not number 7 just amongst mental illnesses. That ranking is placed with everything, including cancer.
@@leafhound3605 Thank you for your comment. I am sorry if my comment was offensive with my use of OCD as an adjective. Personally I am working on my own food and workout issues and trying to find a healthy balance. I do not suffer with OCD but I have family members and friends who do so I am empathetic and see the effects of the illness on their quality of life. For me, Peter’s approach was not healthy for me so I stopped listening to him for awhile. This episode helped me understand more about the possible origins of his focus and what I PERCEIVED to be unhealthy.
Profound. Intellectual. Raw. Authentic. Thank you @richroll and thank you Peter. Peter’s comment near the end on Insignificance resonates deeply. Rich you are a gift to humanity.
The mental health portion was really good. The nutrition and exercise part left me a bit confused. Did he say 180 grams of protein a day? I don’t run around calculating grams of anything but that seems like a lot. I thought the other longevity doctors are all saying to watch out for that much protein (i.e. Longo).
Beautiful to hear a man describe exactly what I felt having my first child, I thought only women experienced this. Before my first son was born, I could not imagine loving anyone/thing as much as my husband who was my world at the time, I was told that would change, but I just could not believe or imagine it. That was until the nurse placed this bundle in my arms and he opened his eyes, he had my eyes - I was hit by what felt like a cosmic freight train of pure authentic love for the first time in my life, this was on a scale I was totally unprepared for and overwhelmed by, and my husband who was my life, took an instant back seat. But what Dr Attia said about mortality is what really resonated with me, the second I became a parent there was a generational shift in me, I instantly felt old, and acutely aware of my own mortality - at 24! I obsessed over my childs mortality too, and his safety, I lay awake every night thinking of all the harms that could befall him and how to avoid it, I also became ultra paranoid about my own health, convinced I was going to die. I find the link between new parenting and mortality fascinating, I think its that instinctive drive in us to stay alive so we can protect, nurture and raise the next generation. I would love to see a study on the actual mechanism i.e the psychological and physical effects of childbirth that turn fearless women like me into quivering, overprotective wrecks who think everything is a threat and become convinced they or their child is about to die at any moment. Is it a survival response or a form of neurosis? All I know is by the time I had my third child the fear had diluted somewhat, I was only a third as neurotic about the protection of each child, rather than pouring all my overprotective neuroticism into 1 child, it became divided by 3. Also the more children you have the more confident you become in your ability to keep these little people alive, safe and well. But that first child...WOW, life changing, mind changing, world changing. I never worried about dying until I had something worth living for ❤️
I would have liked to see rich push back a bit when Peter was saying that animal based protein is better and to make sure you get enough protein. Rich seems to think we all get enough protein so it would have been nice to see a healthy debate around that since he's a vegan.
Brilliant interview - full of so many takeaways! I will definitely order Dr Attia's book! Rich is an extraordinary conversationalist; he asks great questions, shares his viewpoint, and is prepared and knowledgeable about his guests. It was refreshing that these two men shared their knowledge and humanity; the vulnerability was refreshing.
I can't believe Peter was so screwed up. I don't know whether it's wrong to see it this way, but it makes me feel better about myself. I haven't got his drive or intellect, but I am kind to myself, resilient and happy.
I'm only half way through this and feel very compelled to comment on what I have heard so far... THANKS for this particular podcast and open-ended conversation on these topics you both are covering. Very raw, well done, and thought-provoking for weeks/months to come. Here is to the 'keep going and growing in all sorts of ways' 💙
Implying that the Carnivore diet or OMAD are eating disorders is silly and shows a lack of knowledge about eating disorders and healthy eating patterns. I like rich and most of the stuff he says I like. However, that was not an accurate assessment in my opinion.
I’m sorry that he had to go through all of this but I’m very grateful he chose to share this as it makes him so relatable. I will likely buy his book. The concepts and science are complex to me and a lot to digest, so once I read through, it’ll probably be best for me to use it as an ongoing reference. Thanks to both of you for this riveting discussion.
Who has better outcomes, Canada or the US? Or any country with universal or single-payer healthcare vs the US. Everyone is covered in those other systems. The number one cause of bankruptcy in America is healthcare related. Case closed.
Fancy watches/ pens/cars r what matter. As simple, middle class as i am. he will never be the father i am. All these social media heath gurus are depressed and nutz.
Peter is one of my favorite doctors....I like his deep knowledge of sport/nutrition and I apply them in my daily life....thanks Dr.Peter Attia and Rich Roll for such a good podcast...and greetings from Barrie, Ontario, Canada...
Mom’s biggest fear was getting Alzheimer’s D. because she nursed her mother through it for 10 years. Now that she has it at age 92, she’s forgotten her fear. So what.
My doctor spends a kot more than 12 1/2 minutes with me. I also worked for another doctor for 2 1/2 years, and he saw only 6 to a maximum of 12 patients per day. I did his patient scheduling.
This interview really became interesting and kept my attention once Peter starting talking about his recovery and progress through 12 step...Then I was all in...So happy to hear you stuck with it before you blew up your family life...thank you for sharing your experience for it will help many others to understand how important it is to get to the root cause on our journey to whole health to really understand the true definition of DIS-EASE
Two of my favorite men I've never met. Great conversation, guys.
Incredible courage to share vulnerability and personal experience. Thank you Peter and Rich for in-depth emotional sharing. The huge takeaway is neuro plasticity that the negative self talk and monkey chatter can be healed. DBT is an extremely powerful therapy to help. The pain and emotional reactivity can be healed. Thank you for the very powerful podcast.
This is fantastic. I've never heard Peter like this before, and his huskier-than-usual voice adds to the sense that we are seeing a different side of him.
Such a moving conversation. Thank you, Dr. Attia, for your willingness to be so open & honest about your experiences & your path to wellness. So many of us have gone through or are going through similar struggles. This conversation and your book are going to help countless people. ❤❤❤
Peter is just an incredible human being.
I agree with the person who said this is one of the best podcasts! Two highly intelligent people sharing their knowledge with brilliant clarity and empathy! WOW...I'm so grateful. Thank you both!!!
An incredible amount of information here. Fantastic Ep. Thank you Rich and the team for everything you do.
Just loving Peter opening up watched him on other podcasts he has so much to give.
Now adding Rich roll to my favourites 😊
The chances of development of colon cancer goes down significantly the longer you consume a whole plant diet.
This allowed me to face demons I had forgotten about 🤧 thank you
Wow…!! Fascinating, smart and vulnerable!! Emotional health is key!! Exercise, absolutely!! The talk about diet…as someone plant based for specific reasons, it’s understandable how it’s still a personal topic. This was well worth 3 hrs 👏
Thank you, this is very powerful...✨🙏✨
thank you both for this!
"It is never too late to transform one's nature completely." SRI CHINMOY. ~. much love to you all 💙
Thanks guys!
Thank you again for a great informative episode.
Things would be different if health costs were built into all products like a VAT (value added tax). Thus price of high fructose corn syrup and all other poisons would shoot up. I'm a libertarian so you want to drink 64 Oz high sugary drink your choice but pay for your health costs.
What about giving sugar to children? We associate as commonplace and acceptable the idea of candy with children. “Like a child in a candy store”. Halloween is all about stuffing children’s little faces with candy. Is that OK and not a running start to a major LRA?
kiddie cocaine
This is amazing Rich!
Damn! This guy's got some demons! Did not expect that! :o
I see it as IF you have no systemic inflammation, no excess of oxidative stress , no insulin resistance, you are simply very healthy. You can eat foods high in cholesterol and saturated fats all day and you will be ok. But like 90% of people have excess of inflammation and oxidative stress which will damage the cholesterol in your blood and can cause issues. Also there is no question that refined vegetable oils high in omega 6 are easily oxidized and are pro inflammatory. So eating something like eggs fried in sunflower oil will be the worst thing that you can eat.. I would say for most people low fat plant based diet is the safest way of eating. But I don't think that you have to be 100% vegan. Here and there some very lean meat like chicken or fish and here and there high omega 3 fish like sardines or salmon is probably a good idea.. To keep good intake of bioavailable protein and also EPA/DHA..
I agree with most of this. It’s well founded. Except the low fat plant based diet part because we evolved on fatty ruminant meat and your body needs that fat for optimal cellular health.
This is a fascinating interview. I had never heard Peter speak and I didn't know who he was when I started listening. My very first thought when the interview began was that his fear and insecurity was palpable and that I would never go to him for medical treatment.
Where do I find a dr like this??
🤔For real advice to the doctor on not getting a sore throat and run down 🤕 Please get in touch for protocol, 👍 Good luck god bless all ☘️🙏💪🌅
I discovered Rich Roll early on in his Podcast career. Rich has grown into one of the best interviewers in the industry. I feel smarter, motivated, and more empathetic after listening to him. Someone once said that people come in and out of your life, some add to your life and others subtract, Rich has definitely added to mine and I’m a better person for it.
I wish that my son could have heard this and received the help that he needed. His self hatred was horrible. He took his life May, 2023. I applaud your vulnerability! This will truly help so many.
So sorry for your loss. Much love sent to you and your family
@@teresamoncho1553 Thank you so much!
I am so sorry for your loss. I am so sorry that your beautiful boy suffered so
@karenworthington~I’m so sorry for your loss.
@@carolginsberg662 Thank you so much... it's heartbreaking.
Deep respect for *Mrs.* Attia. I'd be very interested to hear her perspective and story. She, and others like her, who stand by their significant others as they work through their struggles, while typically juggling parenting responsibilities and day to day life - I'd like to know what anchored her? How did she have the strength to kick him out, then later have the empathy and openness to let him back in? How did she keep herself grounded and steady? And where does that conviction and strength come from and how to foster it?
What a great wondering. It is really hard to juggle life with a partner who struggles. I rarely see comments acknowledging the partner.
As a man who caused my wife a lot of grief before I began to understand why I acted the way I did for so many years I can only say thank goodness for a significant other who tolerated those of us who have personal issues to work through. Much like Peter I have a lot to make up for.
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I totally agree, as I listened all I could think of was how did she do it, I would really love to know
What an excellent comment and questions! Wish I'd thought of that.
2:47:43 “Do the best you can but don’t do so much more that you ruin this experience of living” 🤯 I think this just changed/saved my life…
Very very relatable.
I'm currently experiencing the same mental collapse after YEARS of being a productive overachiever that has neglected emotional development. This has caused a serious personality "condition" for me. Which has giving me great success, and has pulled me out of a bad childhood, but the cracks are showing. My old mental software is no longer serving me and needs a major update for my new reality.
As Peter said: "What got you here, won't get you there."
I'm only seeing this now.
Living for the Ego while neglecting the Self is a terrible tradeoff that WILL come back to hunt you.
Completely understand the mindset of, "but will I still be good enough if I lose this version of me?"
Respect to Peter for sharing.
I have already preorder his book on Audible.
Beautiful.
For many years Peter was so neurotic and obsessed with optimizing performance and longevity, yet neglecting emotional health.
I'm glad it's his priority now, as it should be for all of us.
Longevity, without well-being is pointless.
Finally he gets it.
I noticed the same thing🎉
It's a side effect of brilliance.
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I’ve followed Peter for years… SO happy to hear *this* side of his personal (mental/emotional) struggles&growth. Thank you BOTH for the work here to get a conversation out that needs spoken - and is so hard to find.
Followed him way before most. He became "unbearable " for over 2-3yrs jmho
Congratulations to Peter Attia for taking the active steps to self-learning, recognition, and the learning of coping skills to recovery, and sharing his story to help others. And Rich Roll, of all people, is the perfect advocate- insightful, empathetic, articulate, and supportive.
Love this man’s honesty. Great chat . Thx
I've listened to Peter off and on for years and while he doesn't strike me as dishonest, I've found a lot of the information he puts out to be a little confusing, and in conflict with what many others say. It seems he's come around to a more moderate place regarding diet, but I find his ambivalence towards polyunsaturated fats a bit strange, as pretty much everyone I've heard talk about lipids, other than the hardcore carnivore people, seem to agree that they're remarkably beneficial especially in place of saturated fats, more so than monounsaturated fats and even fibrous carbs by some accounts. Simon Hill talks to Tom Dayspring about this in a recent Proof episode. Anecdotally, adding more nuts, seeds, avocado, and a couple weekly servings of salmon to my previously low fat diet helped drop my LDL a further 25 points, and it was already in normal range. I also disagree completely that statins are a must in order to achieve a healthy lipid profile. It seems strange to me to put so much emphasis on exercise while downplaying the role of nutrition to the point you're willing to just medicate away the negative side effects without pushing back and offering some education. Also, as someone who used to powerlift, even at my most meathead-y, I never could have eaten my bodyweight in protein and not felt like a bloated mess. That seems insane to me. I think Rich was correct. The issue with loss of lean mass isn't because, in a country where there's a burger joint on every corner, people are protein deficient. It's a lack of activity, and specifically strength-building activity.
This is one of the best podcast episodes I’ve ever listened to. Rich does such an amazing job of interviewing Peter and Peters vulnerability is inspiring!
really? he cant even speak in a flowing manner... I am trying to wrestle with finding compassion for him.... how he's a father and husband........
@@lisetteem588 A halting maner is okay too. Okay for you too. And for all of us.
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@@meghan42 yes love, I just found it odd the person said it was one of the best...it wasnt just the delivery it was the content. However, it's my job to find the love. x
@@lisetteem588 I kind of feel the same. His honesty at least is something, but to have gone for so long with so little insight was somewhat bizarre. And for what? To have a physiological balance between nutrition, sleep and exercise? That was a high price to pay for his long term emotional disfunction. And yet, I must say, it was compulsive, thought provoking listening, with Rich seeming to manage a large toxic creature with amazing compssion. I was routinely beaten by my mother as a child, so I have sympathy for anyone who has to work through that as an adult. And frankly it is bloody complicated, as I have put my own life on hold for two years to care for that abusive mother in her rapidly declining old age. This guy's obsession with fame for something nearly destroyed his life. And, his wife Esther deserves a medal!
it is kinda crazy that he's telling people to eat animal products and go on statins! madness. i just don't buy that we don't know a ton about diet. it might not be in the form a math proof but it's rediculous to expect that anyway.
💯 He won't get paid by VirtaHealth and others, if he tells patients to stop eating meat. Peter is a fraud. Always was. Remember NuSi.
Gentlemen, your willingness to dredge deeply and bring hidden layers of the unwanted and unacknowledged into the light bespeaks levels of courage I admire more than words can describe. Thank you both, on this first day of Spring, 2023.
Thank you. ❤
And here we are. it's lovely. Even if we don't have what we think we want.
Well said! Thank you!
As a veteran that suffers from depression, I can't think of anyone that has helped me understand health and longevity more than Dr. Attia. How blessed we are to have doctors like this.
Its funny how people can be rolemodels for healthy lifestyle while not living a healthy life them selves.
@@orion9k I think this is far too harsh of a criticism and standard. I understand holding people accountable of doing what they preach, but Peter is all that as well. Life, it isn't so simple. It's so difficult to do all this, it's challenging to balance your health and emotions. So a person who's genuinely interested in the betterment of his health, other's health, and for someone who's willing to grow and learn, I'm absolutely putting my money on Peter of all people.
@@contentconsumer4145 I would not put my money on him, he seems like he has fallen to the victim mentality, going into trauma states of mind etc. he is slowly deteriorating through a dangerous ideology.
@@orion9k An who even are you to him. Lol. we're all victims my guy, idk what to tell you if that hasn't occurred to you yet. Peter has just managed to filter out when he actually is the victim vs where he is responsible. That's a mega necessary skill for life in general.
@@contentconsumer4145 Keep telling yourself that.
"Family pathology rolls from generation to generation like a fire in the woods taking down everything in it's path until one person in one generation has the courage to turn and face the flames. That person brings peace to his ancestors and spares the children that follow."
-Terry Real
Excellent work Rich. Thank you for your service.
Very few know or understand this reality. I can assure you that it is next to impossible to get the next generation moving in the right direction; everyone believes that they can take care of themselves properly.It's greater than tragic. Sadly, people need to find themselves, because they will not believe anyone other than themselves. People need to be open and honest as parents, as children, as partners. How many people can truly communicate feelings and emotions? Can you?
Dr. Attia is in the heart of his healing; he's a great doctor - listening to his wisdom on heath, finally allows me to sleep through the night, using the supplements he recommends. Driven people discover eventually, and learn, that they need a clone to relax and live a "normal" life. I know exactly how he suffers; healing requires enormous strength. Is this why most cannot confront themselves?
@@bellakrinkle9381 As the Jesuit's say. Give me the child until 10 years of age and I will show you the man. Perception, comprehension, beliefs , ethics and morals are all programmed in the child by their environment and those they depend on. Even in the womb they are aware of anger and violence and love and caring and music etc even if they have no words or understanding they absorb the emotions that will shape them for life. as part of their reality. The origin of the generational family or tribal curse
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Mega-corporation’s financial incentives to keep people eating their unhealthy foods for corporate profit perhaps? 20:09
It isn’t only the healthcare monolith; there’s the food systems. Wrecking the soil, poisoning air & water, over-processing the harvest….
I am not even through this podcast yet, but the sharing and the raw honesty is what truly helps people relate. Thank you both. Mental health issues are real for everyone and no amount of success or money makes you immune to their grasp.
I agree with you. And, I’m disheartened by some of the earlier comments that focus on superficialities like whether Peter’s speech flowed and the judgmental attitude. Those kinds of comments are exactly why people are reluctant to expose their faults. Grateful that Peter has done so. Rich handled it all beautifully.
His heart is in the right place and I appreciate that.
Suggest u watch at faster speeds 1.25 or 1.5…
Rich is being very generous here with Peter on diet and disease. he knows it's not as complicated as Peter is making it out to be but plays along as to not get into a ridiculous argument with Attia talking in circles.
Peter straight up says that no diet can take lipids down to a level that makes you heart disease proof. absolutely untrue. kinda wish Rich pushed a litttllleee bit but oh well
Thanks for your insight, Dr. Dysart. Sigh. At the risk of projecting, I’m gonna assume you refer to a vegan diet? Yes, Vegans do die from heart disease. Genetics are a thing and Dr. Attia would say as much so yes, there is no diet that will lower your lipids to a level that completely eliminates heart disease if you are genetically predisposed to it. Out of all the things to take out of this amazing conversation…
@@JB-hq9yj doesn't have to be vegan. could just be a diet incredibly low in saturated fat. I myself am not vegan but mostly pescetarian as I eat fish 3 days out of the week. Obviously there will be outliers with insanely bad genetics but for 99.9 percent of people you could make them effectively immune from cardiovascular disease with a diet with insanely low saturated fat, small amounts of mono and omega 3s, and that consists of complex starches, fruits, and legumes.
@@christopherdysart1136 We are going to have to agree to disagree. I appreciate your anecdotal evidence, however, familial high cholesterol is not "insanely bad genetics" it's quite common and diet alone, particularly as you age will not "make you heart disease proof" as you say. This is well researched if you care to look at pubmed or its equivalent. I'm going to bow out of this conversation now, you don't need me to tell you this, the information is out there and has been for years.
Yeah, thanks for this comment. I was actually listening to another podcast with Dr. Attia, and his assertion that atherosclerosis can't be prevented without pharmacotherapy seemed to contradict everything I've learned about the effect of vegan diets, MUCH of that through Rich's own podcast. So I had hoped to hear some pushback on that here, but ah well. He does offer so much aside from that. I'm glad at least one person spoke up!
Awesome conversation, thank you so much Rich and Dr. Attia. Very informative and moving to see 2 guys seeing so open and vulnerable - very brave. I’m probably a good 10 years older than both of you and perhaps too far behind the curve to catch up, but this convo has inspired me to at least try. Again, thank you.
Sounds like the host and guest don't buy in to the notion that eating ancestrally makes sense and is proper and is healthy...
This was a powerful podcast. I acknowledge both of you for your vulnerability to focus this conversation on your mental and emotional health. This is what inspires and gives others permission to seek help for themselves. I spent 6 years doing this type of work and I am now a pretty well ground 60+ year old. The pain of doing this type of work is worth it.
Depression and burnout in men is often reflected in overworking, obsession with sports or gaming… this sharing of a personal journey is an important gift to the world. Thank you, Dr. Attia and Rich.
That was beautifully profound and heartfelt. As a regular consumer of both of these gentlemen's podcasts, I was deeply moved by how open and honest Mr. Attia was about his struggles. As someone who suffers from trauma, I found his journey both inspiring and illuminating. To think that someone who has achieved so much in such a wide range of pursuits, has an amazing life and friends, and has the guts to talk about his shortcomings is mind blowing. This could help so many men struggling with their own issues to gain the courage to seek help. I have nothing but the utmost respect for both of you.
@marknolan~ Beautifully said!
I'm envious these people have access to such high quality emotional healthcare. I know of a few that could benefit from it if given the chance. Thing is, they're never getting it. Not in the 4.75 minutes in their GP's office. Not even if they seek it themselves. Once again, privilege=access.
Attia’s willingness to share was so powerful within his vulnerability. Thank you for this podcast. ❤ This will change lives.
Outstanding interview. I am a huge Attia fan, but was not surprised about his story. The way he just takes everything to the extreme, comes through in his interviews and podcast.
Simple ,go back to nature as close as possible,as our ancestors as our bodies are still working at that level and did not change to deal with highly refined food,stress,sedentary life,toxic air ,water and soil ,no faith ,EMF .
I woke up at 2.30am with this podcasrt playing in my ear. It was so phenomenal that I have stayed up to finish it. I wish Peter knew how sharing his story is going to impact many people's lives and even affect generations of families . Thank you Peter for doing this podcast with Rich. I am 70, still healthy, but definitely have slowed down due to some past injuries. To me chronic pain has been my bugga boo to deal with as I age. Perhaps you can talk about this in a future podcast. It is a real issue for many aging seniors. In order to exercise and avoid osteoporosis I need to be able to move and exercise. This requires pain meds which doctors do not like to prescribe. I hope you do a podcast about this subject sometime in the future. It is a real component of aging for many of us. You cannot imagine how much knowledge I have had to learn and put into practice to be able to stay active yet there are many things I can no longer do .
Interesting post you posted. So you used to exera lot growing up but can't do it anymore?
Try turmeric for joint pain, it's very helpful. Look up 'golden milk' recipe. 💗
At 72 I understand. Now add a 2 year grandson that I have adopted. He keeps me running most of the time and so far I’m blessed with good health. But I need all the info that these amazing podcasts offer.
I would love that topic as well. I live with and take care of my 83 yr old mom. She has so many issues yet gets through the pain daily. I don’t want to be 83 if it’s gonna be that way. The Silent Generation are struggling- it’s a sad thing.
Sauna blanket, red light therapy and vibration plate. Chair yoga online. I'd even try one of those abdominal contraction belts
Rich is soooooo good at interviewing his guests
Indeed! I was thinking the same and he gets better and better!
Absolutely a masterful interviewer! I always feel so enlightened after every interview!
Fact.
Can't even adequately express how much I enjoyed hearing Rich and Peter visit. I've been a fan of both for quite a while now and after hearing them bare their souls in this interview I've adding them to my daily prayer list. You are both SO precious. God bless each of you as you pursue truth in your lives.
I love this conversation so much!
Having watched this and also the Huberman lab podcast, I must say I am by far more moved by Attias energy while in the presence of Rich Roll. Roll has a generosity of spirit and unparalleled ability to bring out the best in people.
Ive lost my health, job, home, car, wife left me, declared myself homeless and see my kids every second weekend. My story is not unique - Ones experience of suffering is relevant to that inidvidual. Rock bottom for someone is luxury and to others its hell. Take someone with terminal illness they would look at my life and tell me to count my blessing im still here
Good podcast but disagree with health influencers like Peter who verbosely make nutrition and health out to be a differential equation. Whole foods, mostly plants, not too much. It's absurd to think most people need 1g/lb of protein or need to track their daily amino acid ratio.
The prescription, in the vast majority of cases, is simple: whole food, plant based nutrition. Even Okinawan peasants in the 20s, largely pre modern medicine, lived an average 89 years. We know from population studies, and the ability to process huge amounts of data with computers, what works! Yes the science is complex, but most of us do great just following the prescribed diet and lifestyle practices!
Well, I wish my comments would be unique, but after reading a handful of the existing comments, I can only acknowledge what others have already said much more eloquently than I could. Once again Rich pulls off another deep and moving conversation. Dr. Attia deserves a LOT of credit here for opening up like this. I'm sure that must have been difficult, but end result is I'm sure it will likely benefit thousands of people. He's a class act for sure. This is another "must listen to multiple times" episode of the RRP.
Powerful and healing conversation...gratitude and respect to both gentlemen.
I listened and thought this was the definition of privilege. Dr Attia has stressful episodes in his life and immediately gets checked into great mental health facilities. I teach high school students in a rural area who desperately need therapy and cannot get to see anyone...
So much love to Peter and Rich! I'm in recovery myself. We're all suffering in one form or another and we have to be honest and ask for help.
Wow
A beautiful and powerful show of strength. I tuned in to learn about the importance of nutrition etc and get floored by the honesty with the rabbit hole of traumas' long-term effects to health
This is my second favorite Rich Roll podcast - wonderfully done. My first is finding your podcast for the first time
Talk about turning something simple into something unnecessarily complicated. When it comes to cardiovascular health, look at populations who already have incredibly low rates, such as the vegans in Loma Linda, California. They have what may well be the healthiest, longest life spans. Okinawans come in second place for longevity and health. They’re 98% vegan. No need to reinvent the wheel, guys. A far more insightful interview is Rich Roll’s with Dr. Greger, here on this channel.
Rich Roll had Micheal Greger, Joel Kahn, Cyrus Khambatta on his show. A pity he never confronts his guests about their lies.
No Okinawa cuisine has historically been high in pork, so no.
Epidemiological data is not science and the blue zone theory is totally false
So dang good you guys. I'm also an ex-work-addict physician who's gone thru my own healing journey so I absolutely receive all of this. Thanks for putting it out there.
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Peter does a fantastic job at meeting us on a human level. He's another great inspiration.
Once again, we're never going to put a dent into healthspans when the primary thing that stands between you and the healthcare you need is money. Even when you filter out risk factors like smoking, poor diet, exercise and stress, the single largest limiting factor remains income. Income limits not just like access to treatment, but proactive testing, and even things like nutritional education.
I’ve seen nearly all of your vlog episodes Rich and Peter, I feel like I know you both quite well, this one is incredible. You are both human and listening to what you share here elevated my well being immensely. Thank you.
What an enthralling and honest episode. Hats off to these two gentlemen.
I have attempted to meditate many times in my life and prior to this CD the only success I've experienced is with live guided meditation. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxzpa8CIfZcihW4Z0F_ja0QF3W9KIatrsq This is the first CD I've used that cuts through my unmedicated ADHD and enables me to truly relax and experience a quiet and energizing interval. The instructors voice is very soothing and pleasant to listen to. I am easily able to sit successfully through the entire CD, and for quite some time after. I cannot adequately express how tremendously helpful this CD has been on my spiritual journey!! Two thumbs up and 10 stars!
Attia is an emotional mess - I regret being compulsively honest; my childhood was a disaster. Instead of deciding for a marriage and children, I wanted to sort myself out, first. It's taken a life time, but now I have equanimity and like myself. Most choose our life before we know who we are, and suffer the consequences. No matter what choices we make, life is hard.
Peter, I have followed your work for about seven years. Listening to your story of "losing it" was so powerful. Thank you for ALL you do - your work as a doc, your honesty sharing about yourself now. How many of us live wasting our lives trying when we just need to be and accept the beauty of life. Thank you.
Peter Attia is part of the system. Likely better to get your diet advice from Rich Roll.
27 min in. I’m really confused on how Peter could be so concerned about atherosclerosis when he spent multiple years consuming a ketogenic diet, which notoriously raises your lipids.
He consults keto-industry for good money.
Because lipids aren’t responsible for atherosclerosis
@@alex_4trth Of course they are. Atherosclerosis is defined as cholesterol accumulation inside of foam cells in the artery wall. High blood cholesterol is causal for that, saturated fats are causal for raising of the cholesterol level.
@@alex_4trth He believes they are
As I listen to his humility and openness I just feel a swell of happiness for him and gratitude to him. Peters words of his dark moments, healing and insights are so beautiful and important. Thank you both so much! ☺️
Wow. Such courage to share your shadow self. We all have them to varying degrees but few of us have the courage to share like this. You will give many people hope that we can push through our shadow selves. It’s so hard to love ourselves but it’s key to everything. Healing takes a lifetime. Keep going for you and your family and as an example for all of us ❤️
Rich Roll is a truly great ambassador for Vegans in the sense that he's willing to listen to, and have a discussion with someone like Peter Attia who obviously has a different diet/lifestyle philosophy.
it's rare to see a vegan that is not crazy, right? lol
@@Torres-tw3icyeah people rhat care for tortured animals are crazy right?
Rich looks 10x better than longevity freaks
I stopped listening to Peter Attia’s podcast for awhile because he seemed quite OCD about his diet and exercise and it seemed a bit on the unhealthy side. I now understand that CONTROL over every part of his exercise, diet (life choices) etc is likely trauma-based. I appreciate that he shared his trauma even though it was uncomfortable for him. ❤️❤️❤️
He needs psychedelics lol
OCD is not an adjective. It's a debilitating mental illness. It's ranked number 7 of most debilitating conditions by the world health organization. That's not number 7 just amongst mental illnesses. That ranking is placed with everything, including cancer.
@@leafhound3605 Thank you for your comment. I am sorry if my comment was offensive with my use of OCD as an adjective. Personally I am working on my own food and workout issues and trying to find a healthy balance. I do not suffer with OCD but I have family members and friends who do so I am empathetic and see the effects of the illness on their quality of life. For me, Peter’s approach was not healthy for me so I stopped listening to him for awhile. This episode helped me understand more about the possible origins of his focus and what I PERCEIVED to be unhealthy.
The most important interview I’ve seen/heard of Attia.. BRAVO to both of you.
Profound. Intellectual. Raw. Authentic.
Thank you @richroll and thank you Peter. Peter’s comment near the end on Insignificance resonates deeply.
Rich you are a gift to humanity.
He sounds like a Robot who realized he’s human ….thanks for sharing his story n thoughts on our amazing mind n body Rich .
The mental health portion was really good. The nutrition and exercise part left me a bit confused. Did he say 180 grams of protein a day? I don’t run around calculating grams of anything but that seems like a lot. I thought the other longevity doctors are all saying to watch out for that much protein (i.e. Longo).
His protein numbers likely come from the research done by Dr Layman. Peter interviewed him in this podcast th-cam.com/video/BqmG2y4IeY8/w-d-xo.html
@@elliekusa65 Ah....thanks for letting me know. Seems like a ton of protein, but it hard to argue with the science I guess.
Beautiful to hear a man describe exactly what I felt having my first child, I thought only women experienced this. Before my first son was born, I could not imagine loving anyone/thing as much as my husband who was my world at the time, I was told that would change, but I just could not believe or imagine it. That was until the nurse placed this bundle in my arms and he opened his eyes, he had my eyes - I was hit by what felt like a cosmic freight train of pure authentic love for the first time in my life, this was on a scale I was totally unprepared for and overwhelmed by, and my husband who was my life, took an instant back seat. But what Dr Attia said about mortality is what really resonated with me, the second I became a parent there was a generational shift in me, I instantly felt old, and acutely aware of my own mortality - at 24! I obsessed over my childs mortality too, and his safety, I lay awake every night thinking of all the harms that could befall him and how to avoid it, I also became ultra paranoid about my own health, convinced I was going to die. I find the link between new parenting and mortality fascinating, I think its that instinctive drive in us to stay alive so we can protect, nurture and raise the next generation. I would love to see a study on the actual mechanism i.e the psychological and physical effects of childbirth that turn fearless women like me into quivering, overprotective wrecks who think everything is a threat and become convinced they or their child is about to die at any moment. Is it a survival response or a form of neurosis? All I know is by the time I had my third child the fear had diluted somewhat, I was only a third as neurotic about the protection of each child, rather than pouring all my overprotective neuroticism into 1 child, it became divided by 3. Also the more children you have the more confident you become in your ability to keep these little people alive, safe and well. But that first child...WOW, life changing, mind changing, world changing. I never worried about dying until I had something worth living for ❤️
I would have liked to see rich push back a bit when Peter was saying that animal based protein is better and to make sure you get enough protein. Rich seems to think we all get enough protein so it would have been nice to see a healthy debate around that since he's a vegan.
Brilliant interview - full of so many takeaways! I will definitely order Dr Attia's book! Rich is an extraordinary conversationalist; he asks great questions, shares his viewpoint, and is prepared and knowledgeable about his guests. It was refreshing that these two men shared their knowledge and humanity; the vulnerability was refreshing.
Absolutely crazy how much depths this one has.this one of those that you can come back on and still find things you didn’t catch first time…
I can't believe Peter was so screwed up. I don't know whether it's wrong to see it this way, but it makes me feel better about myself. I haven't got his drive or intellect, but I am kind to myself, resilient and happy.
It’s going to be a Peter Attia day! Dr. Huberman is also dropping a new podcast with him today.
They bioth stink
Two of the best! I’m impressed with RR now. I appreciate the time and the thought behind what he does.💖
I'm only half way through this and feel very compelled to comment on what I have heard so far... THANKS for this particular podcast and open-ended conversation on these topics you both are covering. Very raw, well done, and thought-provoking for weeks/months to come. Here is to the 'keep going and growing in all sorts of ways' 💙
So grateful to both of you for the honesty. So moving. Tears. So important to discuss, especially for men. Thank you.
Implying that the Carnivore diet or OMAD are eating disorders is silly and shows a lack of knowledge about eating disorders and healthy eating patterns. I like rich and most of the stuff he says I like. However, that was not an accurate assessment in my opinion.
I’m sorry that he had to go through all of this but I’m very grateful he chose to share this as it makes him so relatable. I will likely buy his book. The concepts and science are complex to me and a lot to digest, so once I read through, it’ll probably be best for me to use it as an ongoing reference. Thanks to both of you for this riveting discussion.
Would love Dr Attia to interview Dr Gabor Mate
Great conversation gentlemen
Who has better outcomes, Canada or the US? Or any country with universal or single-payer healthcare vs the US. Everyone is covered in those other systems. The number one cause of bankruptcy in America is healthcare related. Case closed.
So proud of Peter for taking such a brave step. Amazing episode! Well done both of you!
Fancy watches/ pens/cars r what matter.
As simple, middle class as i am. he will never be the father i am.
All these social media heath gurus are depressed and nutz.
Peter is one of my favorite doctors....I like his deep knowledge of sport/nutrition and I apply them in my daily life....thanks Dr.Peter Attia and Rich Roll for such a good podcast...and greetings from Barrie, Ontario, Canada...
Dean Ornish proved we can reverse cardio disease.
Mom’s biggest fear was getting Alzheimer’s D. because she nursed her mother through it for 10 years. Now that she has it at age 92, she’s forgotten her fear. So what.
Are you helping to nurse your Mum through it ?
Sigh.
My doctor spends a kot more than 12 1/2 minutes with me. I also worked for another doctor for 2 1/2 years, and he saw only 6 to a maximum of 12 patients per day. I did his patient scheduling.
This interview really became interesting and kept my attention once Peter starting talking about his recovery and progress through 12 step...Then I was all in...So happy to hear you stuck with it before you blew up your family life...thank you for sharing your experience for it will help many others to understand how important it is to get to the root cause on our journey to whole health to really understand the true definition of DIS-EASE