Even more than that. As they just said 1080p gaming... wasn't expecting this. I ordered 5800x and 5600x and I have never been so excited for CPUs ever in my life.
@@sam_9228 Do you have a Laptop Cooler? I used to play CSGO on my Laptop for years, a cooler for 30 bucks will massively help with fps as it reduces thermal throttling so much
@@illusiveman9683 lol no, this isn’t even a gaming laptop. I’m going to build a pc in a couple of months tho so I feel like buying a laptop cooler is not necessary.
I'd like to make a prediction of an Aputure 120D/300x with an Aputure Dome ii as soft box. Just for fun, since it's TH-cam's favorite main light source.
@Cyan Is Sus Maybe not. DDR4 came into the market during the stagnant Intel dominant years so obviously it took a longer time to gain momentum due to there not being much point in upgrading your platform with so little CPU gains generation to generation. With Ryzen AMD has smashed that equation.The current situation is basically a throwback to the early 90s where you could change computer every 2nd year and basically expect 50% or more performance gain each time.
@@SUPABROS Or early 2022. One interesting thing to think is that if Zen4 offers more cores..will AM5 use dual or triple channel memory system? People say that 16 cores is the practical maximum for dual channel. More cores and dual channel system would bottleneck things.
That's not even including when they move to the 5mm node and go to DDR5 on motherboards, imagine the gains they will have with that fast memory and a node change....
Heh! We can hope that amd can to 25% from 20% it has now against Intel 80%... Intel has no problems at all! The problem is... TSMC can not make enough Zen3 to get amd market share above 25%... most likely real market share next year is between 20% and 25%. Intel can start produsing bulldosers and still maintain huge market share lead!
@@joshuasterling2144 but what happens when intel moves to 5nm? now its at 14nm. amd has won the past 2 years and will for the two next. then i think intel will make their comeback
@@f2ame536 AMD has had the IPC crown for 2 generations, the only thing they have had is clock speed. If AMD can crack 5.3ghz its game over, not including the compute density advantage AMD has had per chip since the beginning of Ryzen.
It's what happens when a company is ruled by fatcats that get lazy and greedy. They honestly deserve it, it's the kick up the arse that they need to stop taking their dominance in the cpu market for granted.
@@austinblazys8034 It's a not a monopoly until Intel stops fighting, and since they are so greedy they probably will try to fight back with 14nm++++++++++++++++++++++.
@@boristhebear9511 It is a monopoly when one company is the undisputed king. It ain't about fighting back. TH-cam has a monopoly on hosting videos, other companies tries to fight, but you don't know/hear of any of them.
@@austinblazys8034 Monopoly is about market share and not about "king" or anysuch nonsense. Intel still leads that by a large margin so AMD is far from a monopolist. If anything you could talk about a Duopoly in processors and a Duopoly in the GPU market.
It's what happens when you trust in market leading silicon designs like TSMC provides, instead of insisting on doing everything on your own, like Intel still tries. But you can definitely credit Su and Papermaster for making the right calls here.
@@slimcharles1479 I wish I knew more about what's involved - I don't understand why they failed to match TSMC. I remember some excuse they gave about being too aggressive with their goals for 10nm but didn't they do a pilot first to figure all this out and then dial back ? And don't they all use the same fab machines from that Dutch company anyway ? (I forget their name but they were banned from exporting to the Chinese recently ...).
@@tma2001 Yea I think most fabs use machines from ASML. Not sure if Canon and Nikon can provide gear for whole fabs, but they also build some of the lower tier machines. I guess it's just a highly specialized industry, where everyone sticks to their niche to keep worker education requirements and risk low. And when you insist on doing both steps of the process to stay autonomous, a problems of one step will be felt at the other step as they depend on each other. I guess we can only speculate what exactly went wrong for Intel. But from what I've read, it must be their SuperFin transistors, or their general attempt to innovate FinFET. TSMC is conservative in that regard, sticking to what technology proves reliable and low risk, while Intel tried to innovate and ran into problems. Who knows, maybe Intel will make a comeback if they can pull SuperFin off at a reasonable cost. But the second I hear Super, I just assume it's for marketing.
You guys literally uploaded this video the second after I finished buying a 5900x... making me feel infinitely better about my purchase. Thanks for the hard work!
@@PeterGriffin-kb2hf yea it was pretty hectic; the sites started lagging after the countdown hit 0 lol I've never bought from a website on launch before so I didn't know what to expect... besides having to rush, that is.
I literally couldn't even find the listings until 20-30 minutes after, and even now on some websites. I'm so confused on so many levels because I was there, ready and waiting for the websites to cuck me.
Yes I glad the video added that aspect which is a big part of gaming scene, surprise all these gaming benchmark don't include popular titles. I guess esports game are easier to test framerate in a control environment where popular games has too many variable but there is singleplayer mode for CODMW. One of the biggest game that all these benchmark fail to often show. Will like this video for being like the only one showing esports basically.. There only like 1-2 other reviews I seen that have like CSGO or Siege.
@@Gubers not true anymore. Every tests show even if u want PURE GAMING PERFORMANCE, it's AMD now. Check out Optimum Tech channel, and he's been using intel only until now He said, "Now the only question is how many cores do I want for my build." And he meant within the AMD cpu tier.
@@Gubers Im not on any side here myself. however u do make a good point. it will be interesting to see how intel does when they reach 7nm. infact i have been using amd for years due to it being more wallet friendly but thats really it. better is better and worse is worse who cares who makes it. anyways thats my 2 cents
@James Smith btw 5700 and 5700Xt launched at the same time so that means 1 launch and then EVEN if you count the 5600XT release as another launch, that still make two and not "several"
@James Smith why did you ignore my main point. Launch not the same as release. RDNA 1 launched July 7 2018. 5600XT, 5500XT and the non-XT variants released later. RDNA 2 launches next month. RDNA 1 didnt launch and relaunch and relaunch and relaunch. The arch itself launch the summer before last. Your wording makes it seem like we are already on RDNA 6 or something like that.
You didnt address it. A launch is not product by product when you NAME THE ARCHITECTURE The launch of the arch was JULY 7 2018. PERIOD. Try having a brain.
Right! That alone would at least account for an overall 20 fps gain and at least a 30 second reduction in overall times within benchmarks and rendering.
@@0rogontorogonI think you wasted the money, the 5800X has like 20% more singlethread perfomance for the same core counts, if AMD continues to improve the IPC like 20% with each generation, then your Ryzen 7 3700X is already not aging very well unlike the 10700K (it was the better 8 core processor but maybe surpassed by the 5800X but by a small margin, unlike the 3700X vs 10700K difference which is kinda big, 12% more singlethread for the i7 and maybe 6-10% multithreaded by using CPU-Z).
@@saricubra2867 If you thought about buying either the 5800x or the 10700k in mid 2019 you have to be in possession of a crystal ball, as neither of them were even announced at that point. So, please go ahead and tell me what cpu I should buy in three to five years when the 3700x is in need of a replacement.
I am currently waiting for my last components for my new build. I first bought the Ryzen 9 3900X, but returned it yesterday as soon as I saw benchmarks for the Zen 3. Ended up buying the Ryzen 7 5800X instead, seems like a killer CPU for gaming.
I'll be honest, I have literally no concept of what is going on in those graphs lmao, nor am I considering buying a new CPU. I just love watching these videos because they're so well produced and the cinematography is gorgeous. Love this channel!
Thanks for the breakdown. I was able to snag a 5600x but was hoping to grab a 5900x for longevity. Happy to see some solid performance and I can't wait. Time to retire my faithful i5 3570k, you served me well.
@@BiernoYoshikawa where is your computer failing you?My computer can't play TH-cam in 4k on my 4k. I play games at 1440p but I don't monitor my framerates. For me if I'm having fun in the game that's what matters.
I hope when 6th gen Ryzen CPUs come they are going to release a beastly Ryzen 9 6969X, then I will probably upgrade 😂 But Zen3 looks really good, want to know Intel's answer to it.
Based on Intels claims they'll probably get back on level terms gaming wise, but since their new cpu's are going to be losing 2 cores to achieve that AMD will crush them even harder in multicore
Best review vid in my opinion. Have been waiting for it. U covered gaming, creativity and also provided opinion on whether a zen2 owner should or shouldn't decide to upgrade. Plus, u covered Overwatch, which I mostly play 👍. Thanks for this review vid.
I wasn't sure if I should go for the 3700X or the 5600X. They're the same price, but one is newer and has lesser cores. Turns out it's kinda what I was expecting. 5600X is great for gaming, while 3700X is better for other, more multi-core applications like video-editing. Since I will do both, I'll see if I can get the 3700X at a better price this Black Friday weekend. It will do fine with my 3070
Depends my friend on the resolution. Cause some people showed that ryzen 7 3700x vs ryzen 5 5600x on 1440p and 4k difference is (1 to 3 max fps) also ryzen 7 3700x is now cheeper and has 2 more cores and is quite better in multi tasking applications.
i got the ryzen 7 5800x a couple weeks ago and it's amazing, i went from a ryzen 5 5200 to that and it's just night and day, getting 150+ fps in warzone maxed out graphics with ray tracing...
Xavier Ortiz just go to the store and back order what you want. Sure it will take a couple weeks but in 2-3 weeks you will have your items instead of being in the same spot hoping you catch something online or in store. That’s what I have been doing with everything.
One thing I want to see is what would happen to a 5800x if you adjusted the PPT down to 88w (where the 3700x is, and where the 5700x would be if AMD launched one) on where the performance would be, would it still outperform the 3700x or would the performance hit be too massive and underperform the 3700x.
LoL 😂😂 that makes 5 5600x f$&k up deal 300$ for 6c12t processor in that price you can buy i7 10700k 8c16t which can give you gaming performance like 800$ ryzen processor
Yeah I know. Sadly we couldn't find stock in time and with the new office on the way needing a TON of stuff, spending almost $600CAD on an Intel chip right now seems like.....no.
@@djsahilking3807 u can litterally say the same bcz the 5600x delivers same gaming performance as 10700k and the same productivity workloads if not better
Really appreciate for sharing the benchmark for Da Vinci and Maya. Didn't see any huge improvements there for the 5000 series so might cop the 3700x instead of the 5600x
The problem is that you did not upload a 1440p benchmarks. Many people (like myself) are playing at 1440p and it is less affected from the cpu as the 1080p. Will be interesting to see. BTW I am building my first pc right now and you helped me so much!!!!!
1440p... most cpus Are similar in game speed at 4K... you can use ”potato” cpu... So you don`t miss much for not having 1440p. There Are some games where there Are differences at that resolution, but differences just get smaller compared to these...
Thanks for the review, great one. There is a minor correction though @4:29, Ryzen 5 3600X has a TDP of 95W, the non X or XT model is the only one with 65W.
You know it's gonna' be a great day when you wake up, bring some coffee to the desk, and see that Hardware Canucks has uploaded a video about the Ryzen 5000 series. Feels good!
@@TechRide. my previous build had a i5 4460, r9 270x 2gb, and 2x4gb ram. Since I do a lot of rendering I needed a better pc, turns out its not even considered mid range anymore
Same boat dude. For 80 bucks I got it for I can't complain though. Just think of the sweet performance boost we'll get when we swap it for 5600 or better part.
Then best review at launch, i do not mind spending for 5900X which I was eyeing, i always prefer flagship, but I can spend on 5600X and next year at this get 6900X along with new socket, DDR5 and 5nm, which would last me for next 3 years easy. Currently using 6700K, and previously apart from Zen2 did not find any reason to upgrade. No reviewers had 5600X benches, am glad i did not book the 5900X for the 3080! Thank you
Then : "Intel is gaming king!!! AMD is for poor people who can't afford Intel!!" Now : "AMD is gaming king!!! Intel is for poor people who can't afford AMD!!" 🤣🤣🤣
@@donut4sk, seriously? Performance difference is significant between ryzen 5 5600x and i5 10600k. We can't just say: our eyes only see $15 difference. Same between 10700k and 5800x. For gaming, 5600x is enough. For productivity stuff, 5800x and above.
@@jeffthegamerboy3476 5600X is €324 and 10600K is €275 And 5800X is €482 while 10700KF is €377 So wanna save 105 EUR? In gaming they are very close ... Personally I got a 5800X because I am targeting 6800XT as my next GPU. The prices are with VAT TAX in EU.
Awesome, thank you! Wish you did some 4k gaming benchmarks but none the less great review. Thank you for not doing what every youtuber does and beg for subs.
Man it has been AMD's years for a while now huh. 5 years ago I thought AMD was a dying company both on the CPU and GPU side. So happy to see the competition level now. I will be picking up the 5600x for sure. the 5k series are too monumental at this point.
I guess they chose 1080p as that is more cpu intensive and can show bigger differences. Though I would like to see benchmarks at higher resolutions too!
I would be really interested in 1440p resolution. So I can decide if an upgrade from a 3600 to a 5600 is worth it. Otherwise great job, some of the best charts/bars I have seen in a long time. Really easy to compare !
Really great overview review, appreciate having all three CPUs here, that's awesome for those trying to decide which one to buy. But you are not alone in stating AM4 is a dead end...yet I do not remember that term being used when reviewing Intel which are oft near dead end on release, and are not around 4 years later for new CPUs. However, once again love the general CPU overview nature of this review, will be pointing many people here for helping them make a purchase.
I've had the 5600x for 3 months now (upgraded from 2700x) and saw anywhere from 15 to 20% gains in my gaming performance! Don't knock it just cause it has less cores. If all you do is game, that is the perfect value cpu a gamer will ever need!
at 5am est B&H had it for pre-order. Got mine in. A 5950x. I just hope they didn't over pre-order. $846.94 Now I need to upgrade my motherboard. Im still running 1800x x370 mobo. I've always been an AMD fan but I did call them on their bullshit back in Bulldozer days. But I'm happy they have made the CPU market competitive again.
Excellent review and summary guys. I had a chat with a friend who is a security engineer. There is a large amount of hatred for Intel right now in tech related industries as it is felt they literally held other business and industries in the world back by not increasing CPU cores when they clearly could have at any time as they did once AMD caught them flat footed and did so before them. This while gouging them all with high prices. Many view this as a proper karmic comeuppance for Intel and he told me nobody in tech believes Intel will ever catch AMD now or possibly ever again if Zen 4 surpassed them and it is expected that they will.
My brother got the 5900x on B&H as they had a preorder option for a waiting list. Much better than waiting on availability and fighting over it when it comes back.
I am buying a 5800X today. In Canada we have tons in stock. In my city alone there are maxed stock in every retail store. The 5800X is hot on the 10900K's tail. And it has 2 extra core and 4 extra threads 😵 Great job AMD 👍 This is going to go great with my 3080 ❤
I was split between 5600X/5800X for gaming with 6800XT or 3080 (I know, latter is not really a choice, or a better one) but looks like 5600X is going to be enough for sure.
Wait a while if you can for 5600 which is going to be cheap and will hold the crown and if you are going to choose AMD for cpu then obvious choice is 6800XT to use rage mode and other stuff that comes with zen3
Yesterday I was ready to pull the trigger on a ryzen 3600 build to finally replace my fx-6350 from 2012 which bottlenecks almost any modern gpu pretty hard. Ryzen 5000 would appear to be worth waiting a little longer for though!
For all us Canadians who purchased the 3800X for $397 on Amazon Prime day vs. the 5600X retailing for $400-430. Which is the better value for the money what should we keep? Especially when considering next gen titles that will hopefully take advantage of more threads. I just want to be 100% sure since shelling out $400+ is a good chunk of change especially with the state of things.
I'm so torn on what to do, yes I'm aware I could probably get one cheaper online (maybe), but my current pc is an Intel 4460 and I'm looking at a store bought 3600 for like $250 Canadian or a 5600x for basically $500. After you delved into the architecture part though I'm almost convinced to just bite the bullet and get the 5600x.
One thing has been noticed is amd has now showing minimal boost clock speeds (instead of old way with 3000 and older where "when the stars align" it might hit single core clock boost witch was 99% of the time never) the 5000 cpus listed boost clock is single is the minimum guaranteed single core boost (but may in fact boost 100-400mhz higher then what is stated in the box, some 5950x are actually doing over 5ghz on single threaded loads) The single 8 core ccx design seem to be paying off as its completely removed the latency penalty in the 5800x (but even in the 2ccx in the 5900x and 5950x the 2x ccx seems to not be slowed down at all even with the L3 sync latency penalty, I guess because the 32mb L3 cache is so big its actually managing to hide the latency) that was in the 3000 and especially in the 2000 and 1000 cpus (1st and 2nd uses 2 cycle per AVX work, 3000 and higher uses 1 cycle per AVX load, if your buying ryzen 3000 is the minimum you should buy)
Summary: AMD delivered exactly what they promised
Even more than that. As they just said 1080p gaming... wasn't expecting this. I ordered 5800x and 5600x and I have never been so excited for CPUs ever in my life.
well, this is fairly new.
Low stock?
@@CryoStrix i feel you, my rtx 3070 and ryzen 5 5600x are on the way :))) my very first build, damn i cant sleep
NO STOCK COOLER
How much FPS do you have?
CS:GO with 5900X: YES
crazier on valaront
700 FPS! I cant even get 40 on my laptop -_-
@@sam_9228 thats a 3090 tho. btw csgo is very CPU sensitive.
@@sam_9228 Do you have a Laptop Cooler? I used to play CSGO on my Laptop for years, a cooler for 30 bucks will massively help with fps as it reduces thermal throttling so much
@@illusiveman9683 lol no, this isn’t even a gaming laptop. I’m going to build a pc in a couple of months tho so I feel like buying a laptop cooler is not necessary.
We need a new sticker for our cases "Intel Outside"
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
imma do that and put a cracked intel cpu there
Really big Ooooof 🤣
lmao.
Hahaha
I would love a video on how you guys do your amazing lighting in your videos I'm super curious as it really stands out.
Once we move into the new office, expect a few setup vlogs!
😲Now I'm excited!
@@HardwareCanucks You guys have the best lighting among all tech youtubers. Clean and natural.
@@krioni86sa Agreed
I'd like to make a prediction of an Aputure 120D/300x with an Aputure Dome ii as soft box.
Just for fun, since it's TH-cam's favorite main light source.
And all this is before Smart Access Memory and Rage mode have been implemented to their fullest. All hail the AM4 platform.
It'll get better with am5, ddr5 and more, amd gpu on samsung aswell will KILL it
@@SUPABROS when AM5 will be released ?
@@Sukyra971 next year
@Cyan Is Sus Maybe not. DDR4 came into the market during the stagnant Intel dominant years so obviously it took a longer time to gain momentum due to there not being much point in upgrading your platform with so little CPU gains generation to generation. With Ryzen AMD has smashed that equation.The current situation is basically a throwback to the early 90s where you could change computer every 2nd year and basically expect 50% or more performance gain each time.
@@SUPABROS
Or early 2022. One interesting thing to think is that if Zen4 offers more cores..will AM5 use dual or triple channel memory system? People say that 16 cores is the practical maximum for dual channel. More cores and dual channel system would bottleneck things.
So hyped for these, the value proposition is insane! Just picked up a 5600x for my first upgrade in 10 years!
same im rocking a damn i5 2400.....
@@drbjr8223 aww man. Are you upgrading? I'm on an 1100T...5600x is going to do wonders for my video content and the render time and editing time!
Same, I'm hoping to replace my 10 year old oc'd i7 2600k with a zen 3
@@lynnmckenney1987 your in for a major upgrade too 🙌
Sup
AMD has been digging grave for intel since 2017 and today they laid the tombstone.
That's not even including when they move to the 5mm node and go to DDR5 on motherboards, imagine the gains they will have with that fast memory and a node change....
Heh! We can hope that amd can to 25% from 20% it has now against Intel 80%... Intel has no problems at all! The problem is... TSMC can not make enough Zen3 to get amd market share above 25%... most likely real market share next year is between 20% and 25%. Intel can start produsing bulldosers and still maintain huge market share lead!
@@joshuasterling2144 but what happens when intel moves to 5nm? now its at 14nm. amd has won the past 2 years and will for the two next. then i think intel will make their comeback
@@f2ame536 AMD has had the IPC crown for 2 generations, the only thing they have had is clock speed. If AMD can crack 5.3ghz its game over, not including the compute density advantage AMD has had per chip since the beginning of Ryzen.
It's what happens when a company is ruled by fatcats that get lazy and greedy. They honestly deserve it, it's the kick up the arse that they need to stop taking their dominance in the cpu market for granted.
I’ve been waiting for this video! Exciting times for AMD.
Yeah. Impressive indeed.
Not exciting to have a monopoly again.
After this horrid launch, AMD is just going to look like Intel of the early 2010's.
@@austinblazys8034 It's a not a monopoly until Intel stops fighting, and since they are so greedy they probably will try to fight back with 14nm++++++++++++++++++++++.
@@boristhebear9511 It is a monopoly when one company is the undisputed king. It ain't about fighting back.
TH-cam has a monopoly on hosting videos, other companies tries to fight, but you don't know/hear of any of them.
@@austinblazys8034 Monopoly is about market share and not about "king" or anysuch nonsense. Intel still leads that by a large margin so AMD is far from a monopolist. If anything you could talk about a Duopoly in processors and a Duopoly in the GPU market.
AMD are competing against themselves at this point ... this is what happens when a chip engineer takes charge of a chip company.
It's what happens when you trust in market leading silicon designs like TSMC provides, instead of insisting on doing everything on your own, like Intel still tries. But you can definitely credit Su and Papermaster for making the right calls here.
@@slimcharles1479 I wish I knew more about what's involved - I don't understand why they failed to match TSMC. I remember some excuse they gave about being too aggressive with their goals for 10nm but didn't they do a pilot first to figure all this out and then dial back ?
And don't they all use the same fab machines from that Dutch company anyway ? (I forget their name but they were banned from exporting to the Chinese recently ...).
@@tma2001 Yea I think most fabs use machines from ASML. Not sure if Canon and Nikon can provide gear for whole fabs, but they also build some of the lower tier machines. I guess it's just a highly specialized industry, where everyone sticks to their niche to keep worker education requirements and risk low. And when you insist on doing both steps of the process to stay autonomous, a problems of one step will be felt at the other step as they depend on each other.
I guess we can only speculate what exactly went wrong for Intel. But from what I've read, it must be their SuperFin transistors, or their general attempt to innovate FinFET. TSMC is conservative in that regard, sticking to what technology proves reliable and low risk, while Intel tried to innovate and ran into problems. Who knows, maybe Intel will make a comeback if they can pull SuperFin off at a reasonable cost. But the second I hear Super, I just assume it's for marketing.
You guys literally uploaded this video the second after I finished buying a 5900x... making me feel infinitely better about my purchase.
Thanks for the hard work!
congrats hope u enjoy it
Same I got a 5600X before it went out of stock.
@@homejain4135 thank you!
@@PeterGriffin-kb2hf yea it was pretty hectic; the sites started lagging after the countdown hit 0 lol
I've never bought from a website on launch before so I didn't know what to expect... besides having to rush, that is.
I literally couldn't even find the listings until 20-30 minutes after, and even now on some websites. I'm so confused on so many levels because I was there, ready and waiting for the websites to cuck me.
Thanks for including esports titles!
I'm a bit of a CS junkie so it's really interesting to see.
Yes I glad the video added that aspect which is a big part of gaming scene, surprise all these gaming benchmark don't include popular titles. I guess esports game are easier to test framerate in a control environment where popular games has too many variable but there is singleplayer mode for CODMW. One of the biggest game that all these benchmark fail to often show. Will like this video for being like the only one showing esports basically.. There only like 1-2 other reviews I seen that have like CSGO or Siege.
Coffin Lake: Intel inside
@@Gubers "it doesn't matter how much you win by, winning is winning" go home Intel fanboy
Underrated comment
@@Gubers And AMD 5 5600x can match and beat i9 10900k in most games.Amd 5 5600x costs 300 while the i9 10900k cost 580...
@@Gubers not true anymore. Every tests show even if u want PURE GAMING PERFORMANCE, it's AMD now. Check out Optimum Tech channel, and he's been using intel only until now
He said, "Now the only question is how many cores do I want for my build." And he meant within the AMD cpu tier.
@@Gubers Im not on any side here myself. however u do make a good point. it will be interesting to see how intel does when they reach 7nm. infact i have been using amd for years due to it being more wallet friendly but thats really it. better is better and worse is worse who cares who makes it. anyways thats my 2 cents
0:39 "I've never been excited about a new product in a really long time"- everyone after every AMD product launch
@James Smith Theyve only had one RDNA launch so far. Next one is next month lmao
@James Smith um there is only RDNA 1 and RDNA 2 so only 2 launches. RDNA is a family of cards much like Turing and Ampere
@James Smith btw 5700 and 5700Xt launched at the same time so that means 1 launch and then EVEN if you count the 5600XT release as another launch, that still make two and not "several"
@James Smith why did you ignore my main point. Launch not the same as release. RDNA 1 launched July 7 2018. 5600XT, 5500XT and the non-XT variants released later. RDNA 2 launches next month. RDNA 1 didnt launch and relaunch and relaunch and relaunch. The arch itself launch the summer before last. Your wording makes it seem like we are already on RDNA 6 or something like that.
You didnt address it. A launch is not product by product when you NAME THE ARCHITECTURE The launch of the arch was JULY 7 2018. PERIOD. Try having a brain.
Your tests were flawed, and Intel will call you out for this. You failed to account for Intel's new logo.
Lmao
"Broken Inside" ?
@@HardwareCanucks "Dead Inside"
Right! That alone would at least account for an overall 20 fps gain and at least a 30 second reduction in overall times within benchmarks and rendering.
@@dboy2258 Exactly! Also its boost to RGB can't be overstated.
Me looking at my 4790K "It's time my child, you have served me well"
Time to take it out back and put it down
I replaced mine last year with a 3700x. It was money well spent.
my 2600K : hold my beer
@@0rogontorogonI think you wasted the money, the 5800X has like 20% more singlethread perfomance for the same core counts, if AMD continues to improve the IPC like 20% with each generation, then your Ryzen 7 3700X is already not aging very well unlike the 10700K (it was the better 8 core processor but maybe surpassed by the 5800X but by a small margin, unlike the 3700X vs 10700K difference which is kinda big, 12% more singlethread for the i7 and maybe 6-10% multithreaded by using CPU-Z).
@@saricubra2867 If you thought about buying either the 5800x or the 10700k in mid 2019 you have to be in possession of a crystal ball, as neither of them were even announced at that point. So, please go ahead and tell me what cpu I should buy in three to five years when the 3700x is in need of a replacement.
I am currently waiting for my last components for my new build. I first bought the Ryzen 9 3900X, but returned it yesterday as soon as I saw benchmarks for the Zen 3. Ended up buying the Ryzen 7 5800X instead, seems like a killer CPU for gaming.
whats it like ? im thinking about buying one
AMD makes me happy
True innovation.
What you are trying to say is that competition makes you happy. Not just amd
You are a Chicken :3
@@goddosyourself7970 well what else do we got besides amd and intel.AMD=competition
Well they said don't get MAD, get AMD
I never thought I would ever say this in a CPU review video but ......... That's a really nice sweater!
What about that scarf? It's awesome.
I'll be honest, I have literally no concept of what is going on in those graphs lmao, nor am I considering buying a new CPU. I just love watching these videos because they're so well produced and the cinematography is gorgeous. Love this channel!
Thanks for the breakdown. I was able to snag a 5600x but was hoping to grab a 5900x for longevity. Happy to see some solid performance and I can't wait. Time to retire my faithful i5 3570k, you served me well.
dang good job on holding on so long XD I am on I5 6600K but feel the need to upgrade to 5800X or 5900X
@@BiernoYoshikawa where is your computer failing you?My computer can't play TH-cam in 4k on my 4k. I play games at 1440p but I don't monitor my framerates. For me if I'm having fun in the game that's what matters.
I hope when 6th gen Ryzen CPUs come they are going to release a beastly Ryzen 9 6969X, then I will probably upgrade 😂 But Zen3 looks really good, want to know Intel's answer to it.
nice
Based on Intels claims they'll probably get back on level terms gaming wise, but since their new cpu's are going to be losing 2 cores to achieve that AMD will crush them even harder in multicore
nice
Intel is basically gonna grasp at straws to try and barely edge out zen 3. They already announced 11th gen but no one cares.
@@CianMcsweeney Yeah that's probably it and also on some programs that are just in favour of Intel like Adobe apps and such.
Best review vid in my opinion. Have been waiting for it. U covered gaming, creativity and also provided opinion on whether a zen2 owner should or shouldn't decide to upgrade. Plus, u covered Overwatch, which I mostly play 👍. Thanks for this review vid.
Thanks! Really appreciated!
and cs
I wasn't sure if I should go for the 3700X or the 5600X. They're the same price, but one is newer and has lesser cores.
Turns out it's kinda what I was expecting. 5600X is great for gaming, while 3700X is better for other, more multi-core applications like video-editing.
Since I will do both, I'll see if I can get the 3700X at a better price this Black Friday weekend. It will do fine with my 3070
I have allready seen 3800x at very nice prices, so black friday may be really good tome to get those older cpus!
Okay but like, why is his voice so soothing? I feel like he should narrate my life.
5600x - "It's Beautiful 🥺"
Depends my friend on the resolution. Cause some people showed that ryzen 7 3700x vs ryzen 5 5600x on 1440p and 4k difference is (1 to 3 max fps) also ryzen 7 3700x is now cheeper and has 2 more cores and is quite better in multi tasking applications.
Wait for r5 5600 then decide 😊
@@Filip1389_ would you recommend me going for ryzen 7 3800 or going for ryzen 5600x
@@camohere3762 even I'm stuck here r7 3700x or r5 5600x.... performance wise r5 5600x is off the charts 🤯
@@luqman2871 yeah I’m pretty stuck as well , they both look great. And r7 has two more cores. But as far as gaming the 5600x looks pretty good
i got the ryzen 7 5800x a couple weeks ago and it's amazing, i went from a ryzen 5 5200 to that and it's just night and day, getting 150+ fps in warzone maxed out graphics with ray tracing...
Finally my first cpu upgrade after 10 yrs from an i7-930. Witness me brothers
What do you buy XD?
@@spawn4184 3900X!
WITNESSSSSSSSSSS
WITNESSSSS
Upgraded from my 1600x yesterday to a 5600x. I'm genuinely blown away at the gaming performance.
You guys just published this seconds after embargo lift and the first one to publish reviews!!
very nice!
TH-cam scheduling is linked to a super accurate clock, yeah 9AM means 9AM.
Imagine when you use AMD CPU, motherboard and GPU together and get that SAM.
That will be the nail in the coffin.
Its so frustrating, so much amazing hardware everywhere INSTANTLY selling out i havent been able to get my hands on anything
I was at work and missed the option to buy one, too.
Xavier Ortiz just go to the store and back order what you want. Sure it will take a couple weeks but in 2-3 weeks you will have your items instead of being in the same spot hoping you catch something online or in store. That’s what I have been doing with everything.
"A few weeks ago, AMD made some wild claims about Ryzen.... availability"
😒
no amount of cpus would have been able to meet demand, same with the rtx 3000. Atleast they didnt claim to "not expect so many sales"
Wait a week or two, that's normal. Unlike Nvidia with their 3 Month delay
all that I have been waiting for... now I will save up for the 750 Hz monitor and play CS GO at 0.2ms response time .. yayyyy
AMAZING VIDEO THOUGH
Ewww CS GO is trash
One thing I want to see is what would happen to a 5800x if you adjusted the PPT down to 88w (where the 3700x is, and where the 5700x would be if AMD launched one) on where the performance would be, would it still outperform the 3700x or would the performance hit be too massive and underperform the 3700x.
Would have liked to see the 10700k included in the performance comparison charts.
LoL 😂😂 that makes 5 5600x f$&k up deal 300$ for 6c12t processor in that price you can buy i7 10700k 8c16t which can give you gaming performance like 800$ ryzen processor
I think it wasn't included because you can normally assume the 10900K will be tops and the 10700K will probably be 5% behind it
Yeah I know. Sadly we couldn't find stock in time and with the new office on the way needing a TON of stuff, spending almost $600CAD on an Intel chip right now seems like.....no.
@@djsahilking3807 u can litterally say the same bcz the 5600x delivers same gaming performance as 10700k and the same productivity workloads if not better
@@zayd1111 Bs
beautiful lighting man, nice work! Also love the camera, did you use a7siii to film yourself?
As someone with a X370 board / early adopter
Im still sad.
Wait! There is a small chance that we will get support next year! (depending on your mainbord vendor)
Same, With these results I really want to get a new chip but dont want to get a new board.
Boo hoo
Well presented info. Nice work man! Gonna get that 5800X
got my 3080 5800x comeing next week i just game ect 5800x for my my mind at ease
Ordered a 5600x on Amazon. I hope the single core performance boost allows me to get 45 fps in Arma.. Should be a decent upgrade on my 1500x
You better buy new videocard too. 😂😂😂
@@Oboro911 Overclocked 2070 is fine, Arma is entirely single core performance.
Really appreciate for sharing the benchmark for Da Vinci and Maya. Didn't see any huge improvements there for the 5000 series so might cop the 3700x instead of the 5600x
I had a 5600X in the cart and i thought "i better watch a benchmark video before i buy" as soon as i saw those 5600X numbers it was an insta-buy xD
I bought the 5600x I love it but I wonder 💭 if the 5900x is a big difference in multimedia and streaming since it has 12 vs 6 cores...
Your voice is so calming. I'm gonna re-watch this before I go to bed tonight.
Hands above the blanket
I'm in my physics class but this is awesome, I've been waiting to see these
Thanks for showing productivity tests like DaVinci Resolve. Good summary report and review 👍
It's not "AMD Kill intel" anymore since they already done that during Ryzen 3000 series year ago.
They stabbed Intel, and Ryzen 5000 was the final shot to the head with it's gaming/single core performance
RIP
Yeah. That's a no from me dog and I built two computers for my friends with 3600's.
Stop drinking the kool aid
@@neuro3423 clarify?
@@oofig i agree with your statement. I was commenting on OP. Ryzen def did not kill Intel with the 3000 series. That's hyperbole.
@Curtis Riceman lmao ok dude
The problem is that you did not upload a 1440p benchmarks. Many people (like myself) are playing at 1440p and it is less affected from the cpu as the 1080p. Will be interesting to see.
BTW I am building my first pc right now and you helped me so much!!!!!
Limited time. :(
@@HardwareCanucks you are still the best! Thank you!
1440p... most cpus Are similar in game speed at 4K... you can use ”potato” cpu... So you don`t miss much for not having 1440p. There Are some games where there Are differences at that resolution, but differences just get smaller compared to these...
Finally I thinks it's time to upgrade to a new board
Same. My trusty X370 has held up great though
Keep in mind that you will not be able to use the AM4 platform for any of the next generations
@@claudiustanescu6651 yes but when I upgrade I do a whole system upgrade about every 3 years
@@claudiustanescu6651 I was also tempted to upgrade to the new 5000 series since its really good.
Yeah, my A320 is a little old
Thanks for including all the processors in the same video unlike just about everyone else out there.
Just when I tried to start my hw
This came to my notification
Thanks for the review, great one. There is a minor correction though @4:29, Ryzen 5 3600X has a TDP of 95W, the non X or XT model is the only one with 65W.
You know it's gonna' be a great day when you wake up, bring some coffee to the desk, and see that Hardware Canucks has uploaded a video about the Ryzen 5000 series. Feels good!
Haha! Except that I am going to bed rn and this ended my shitty day well :)
Good morning good people!
@@HardwareCanucks Yo planning to make some merch with "Good People" on it? I saw someone say that in ur newer vids. Its a cool idea!
Haven't seen the divided time bar on the bottom of a video yet. I appreciate the small extra bit of work!
Meanwhile I'm still rocking a R5 1600 overclocked to 3.9Ghz paired with RX 580 8gb
Bruh
Dang dude that's a real solid 1080p runner in 2020 still
Hope u get that cheep Zen 2 CPUs soon, or even Zen 3 ones
bish please, im still using i5-4670 w/ 16GB DDR3 and GTX 1060 :/
@@TechRide. my previous build had a i5 4460, r9 270x 2gb, and 2x4gb ram. Since I do a lot of rendering I needed a better pc, turns out its not even considered mid range anymore
Same boat dude. For 80 bucks I got it for I can't complain though. Just think of the sweet performance boost we'll get when we swap it for 5600 or better part.
I have the same setup but with a gtx 1080. I initially had a rx 480 but ended up upgrading the gpu.
Then best review at launch, i do not mind spending for 5900X which I was eyeing, i always prefer flagship, but I can spend on 5600X and next year at this get 6900X along with new socket, DDR5 and 5nm, which would last me for next 3 years easy. Currently using 6700K, and previously apart from Zen2 did not find any reason to upgrade. No reviewers had 5600X benches, am glad i did not book the 5900X for the 3080! Thank you
Thanks!
Then : "Intel is gaming king!!! AMD is for poor people who can't afford Intel!!"
Now : "AMD is gaming king!!! Intel is for poor people who can't afford AMD!!"
🤣🤣🤣
which I expected to happen after I saw Zen 3 pricing. BUY 10600k or 10700k if youre saving money
@@donut4sk, seriously? Performance difference is significant between ryzen 5 5600x and i5 10600k. We can't just say: our eyes only see $15 difference. Same between 10700k and 5800x. For gaming, 5600x is enough. For productivity stuff, 5800x and above.
Townsfolk are fickle
@@jeffthegamerboy3476 5600X is €324 and 10600K is €275
And 5800X is €482 while 10700KF is €377
So wanna save 105 EUR?
In gaming they are very close ...
Personally I got a 5800X because I am targeting 6800XT as my next GPU.
The prices are with VAT TAX in EU.
Awesome, thank you! Wish you did some 4k gaming benchmarks but none the less great review. Thank you for not doing what every youtuber does and beg for subs.
Rip intel🙏
Man it has been AMD's years for a while now huh. 5 years ago I thought AMD was a dying company both on the CPU and GPU side. So happy to see the competition level now. I will be picking up the 5600x for sure. the 5k series are too monumental at this point.
how is gaming in 1440p / 4k ???
I guess they chose 1080p as that is more cpu intensive and can show bigger differences. Though I would like to see benchmarks at higher resolutions too!
Great video! Thanks for doing such a thorough run down, I now know what I'm getting!
Imagine AMD on Zen 4 and 5nm. That's gonna be Intel's execution.
Lol. Enough with the senseless exaggeration now pls. Intel has long been executed. Lmao
Good review. LOVE the professional delivery. Sub'd
ryzen amd epycly thread rips intel
I have been waiting for this day to come a long ago. GG AMD!
I would be really interested in 1440p resolution. So I can decide if an upgrade from a 3600 to a 5600 is worth it.
Otherwise great job, some of the best charts/bars I have seen in a long time. Really easy to compare !
I love the diversity of the things covered on this channel. Peripherals, laptops, pc components, just great.
Thanks!
Really great overview review, appreciate having all three CPUs here, that's awesome for those trying to decide which one to buy. But you are not alone in stating AM4 is a dead end...yet I do not remember that term being used when reviewing Intel which are oft near dead end on release, and are not around 4 years later for new CPUs. However, once again love the general CPU overview nature of this review, will be pointing many people here for helping them make a purchase.
I've had the 5600x for 3 months now (upgraded from 2700x) and saw anywhere from 15 to 20% gains in my gaming performance! Don't knock it just cause it has less cores. If all you do is game, that is the perfect value cpu a gamer will ever need!
What graphics card did you have at the time ?
@@kloudz2338 same one I'm still using: 1080ti the real MVP of the graphics world.
Really enjoying your different approaches to reviews than everyone else just focusing on the most expensive parts.
Awesome. Exactly the info I've been waiting for.
Got the 5600x ordered today. Glad I went for it over the 5800x i originally planned for. Included cooler also what a steal. Upgrading from a i7 4790k.
Thanks for including esports results.
Dude, I love your sweater!
Beautiful review 😊
U are a gentleman for putting the time stamps
at 5am est B&H had it for pre-order. Got mine in. A 5950x. I just hope they didn't over pre-order. $846.94 Now I need to upgrade my motherboard. Im still running 1800x x370 mobo. I've always been an AMD fan but I did call them on their bullshit back in Bulldozer days. But I'm happy they have made the CPU market competitive again.
Only channel I've seen so far that has 5600x numbers included. Props.
thanks for putting a comparison video including Ryzen 5 5600x, can't really find other videos talk about it
Stop crying my dear 4790k, you served me well for 6 years and i'll remember you forever, but your time has come
Excellent review and summary guys. I had a chat with a friend who is a security engineer. There is a large amount of hatred for Intel right now in tech related industries as it is felt they literally held other business and industries in the world back by not increasing CPU cores when they clearly could have at any time as they did once AMD caught them flat footed and did so before them. This while gouging them all with high prices. Many view this as a proper karmic comeuppance for Intel and he told me nobody in tech believes Intel will ever catch AMD now or possibly ever again if Zen 4 surpassed them and it is expected that they will.
My brother got the 5900x on B&H as they had a preorder option for a waiting list. Much better than waiting on availability and fighting over it when it comes back.
doesnt guarantee it
I still love my AMD1055T 16gb ram with all 6cores over clocked to 4ghz ..I'm totally satisfied with it ....but these new Ryzen's sure sound cool
Just upgraded 7700k to 5600x for gaming... damn good! pcie gen 4 for nvme is a big plus too (3 direct to cpu slots).
I'm hyped! Full AMD build next 5900x/6900xt upgrade.
well done review, thank god i been waiting a month. 5600x it is.
Rare sight! Thanks for blessing me with being able to see these mythical species.
Thanks for the timestamps Eber!
I am buying a 5800X today. In Canada we have tons in stock. In my city alone there are maxed stock in every retail store.
The 5800X is hot on the 10900K's tail. And it has 2 extra core and 4 extra threads 😵 Great job AMD 👍 This is going to go great with my 3080 ❤
You are my fav. reviewer mate.
Kudos for this Zen 3 review and clear resume of processors in 2020
Thank you for this video, really informative.
im here and its a sure fireball that 2020 is AMD BEST YEAR EVER!
I was split between 5600X/5800X for gaming with 6800XT or 3080 (I know, latter is not really a choice, or a better one) but looks like 5600X is going to be enough for sure.
Wait a while if you can for 5600 which is going to be cheap and will hold the crown and if you are going to choose AMD for cpu then obvious choice is 6800XT to use rage mode and other stuff that comes with zen3
@@freefall_910 sorry I cant find it in my hear to wait, 4th December is my birthday so if I trully was able to buy CPU today then thats sorted :DDD
Yesterday I was ready to pull the trigger on a ryzen 3600 build to finally replace my fx-6350 from 2012 which bottlenecks almost any modern gpu pretty hard. Ryzen 5000 would appear to be worth waiting a little longer for though!
i will defo be getting the ryzen 5 5600x and slapping it into my msi b450 tomohawk, thats such a good cpu for the price too
For all us Canadians who purchased the 3800X for $397 on Amazon Prime day vs. the 5600X retailing for $400-430. Which is the better value for the money what should we keep? Especially when considering next gen titles that will hopefully take advantage of more threads. I just want to be 100% sure since shelling out $400+ is a good chunk of change especially with the state of things.
I'm so torn on what to do, yes I'm aware I could probably get one cheaper online (maybe), but my current pc is an Intel 4460 and I'm looking at a store bought 3600 for like $250 Canadian or a 5600x for basically $500. After you delved into the architecture part though I'm almost convinced to just bite the bullet and get the 5600x.
One thing has been noticed is amd has now showing minimal boost clock speeds (instead of old way with 3000 and older where "when the stars align" it might hit single core clock boost witch was 99% of the time never) the 5000 cpus listed boost clock is single is the minimum guaranteed single core boost (but may in fact boost 100-400mhz higher then what is stated in the box, some 5950x are actually doing over 5ghz on single threaded loads)
The single 8 core ccx design seem to be paying off as its completely removed the latency penalty in the 5800x (but even in the 2ccx in the 5900x and 5950x the 2x ccx seems to not be slowed down at all even with the L3 sync latency penalty, I guess because the 32mb L3 cache is so big its actually managing to hide the latency) that was in the 3000 and especially in the 2000 and 1000 cpus (1st and 2nd uses 2 cycle per AVX work, 3000 and higher uses 1 cycle per AVX load, if your buying ryzen 3000 is the minimum you should buy)
This is gonna keep me going for the next 5 years matched with my 3060ti
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