GRISHA'S MEMORIES! | Attack on Titan Couples Reaction & Discussion Season 4 Episode 20 / 79
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Attack on Titan 進撃の巨人 Couples Reaction Season 4 Final Season Episode 20 / Episode 79
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Essentially, Eren was live-streaming his POV to Grisha in the past. That’s how he was able to both influence him to slay the Reiss’s and show him Zeke.
I have one question for you. If Grisha says "stop eren". But after that, he makes Eren a titan and feed himself so Eren can have the Attack Titan.
If Grisha wanted to stop Eren, why did he gave the Attack Titan powers after the whole Frieda incident?
@@friedegg7864 because if he didn’t give Eren the attack and founding titans, then Eren wouldn’t have been able to show him the rumbling in the first place, thus giving him no context to know to stop Eren.
It’s a causal loop and a bit of a paradox, but that happens with most time travel or pseudo-time-travel plots.
@@friedegg7864 Remember in Shadis story grisha was shocked when he learnt that carlas was dead and said to Eren that he will have to avenge his mother before giving the titan to him. I definitely think people misunderstood grisha at that time he was still a fellow patriot of the restorationists, the proof is that his mission was still his main goal , he still had the ressentiment against marley and the world for eldia people's treatments but having a family change a bit his perspective.
But even though he was manipulated i think learning the death of carla make him believe in eren not knowing that eren will destroy the entire world. If he just saw eren horribly destroying marley i don't think he cared much about the guys that messed up his entire life anytime they could.
@@JamesJones-ts5fl Remember in Shadis story grisha was shocked when he learnt that carlas was dead and said to Eren that he will have to avenge his mother before giving the titan to him. I definitely think people misunderstood grisha at that time he was still a fellow patriot of the restorationists, the proof is that his mission was still his main goal , he still had the ressentiment against marley and the world for eldia people's treatments but having a family change a bit his perspective.
But even though he was manipulated i think learning the death of carla make him believe in eren not knowing that eren will destroy the entire world. If he just saw eren horribly destroying marley i don't think he cared much about the guys that messed up his entire life anytime they could.
@@friedegg7864 there is only one timeline and the changes in past don't exactly change the events of future. Instead, the past, present and future exist at the same time, simultaneously. Grisha saw the "terrible future" *because* he gave eren those powers and saw future attack titan inheritor's memories. If he didn't feed himself to eren, he wouldn't have learned about the "terrible future", and because he wouldn't have learned about the terrible future, he would've passed on attack titan to eren anyway. One can also say that grisha might have considered outcomes of giving the titan to eren better than the events that would've taken place if he didn't. But that would've defied the essence of the story that: "past, present and future, exist at once" and there is no "different" timeline or outcome
*Ep1:* To you, 2000 years from now
*Ep 80:* From you, 2000 years ago
OMFG.....
If you haven't read the manga, strap in. Sunday is about to be a wild one.
props to Grishas VA, he really nailed it this episode, heres where isayamas 1000 iq writing sets off. time for this to get even more wild.
bruh what 💀😂
@@roronoazoro3007 what?
To clear your confusion, Eren touched historia on season 3, thats when he saw the past. He saw future Eren telling Grisha to kill the royal family and steal the founding titan. After he saw this, he was devastated and blamed himself for everything. He wanted to die, but then when he understood he has to do it for Eldias future, he became the current cold blooded Eren and continued the loop.
Back in season 3, when Eren was kidnapped and in chains ready to be eaten by Historia, there was a moment when Historia and her father got close to Eren with their hands and Eren saw the memories of what happened when Grisha killed the royal familiy, but because they didn't touched him completely, he only saw the memories partially. In the final episode of season 3, the moment Eren kissed Historia's hand is when he saw everything. He saw himself in the future encouraging Grisha to kill the royal family and stealing the Founding Titan. He also saw something terrible that made him very scared, you can clearly see written in his face. Maybe the terrible thing Eren saw besides himself telling his father to kill the royal family was the terrible thing that Grisha saw in Eren's future memories of what come next.
No before this he saw the future from the very start he knew it was all an act to accomplish freedom that he slowly understood as he grew up.
@@envi.x no he didn't know it, back then when he was a kid, he still don't have the attack of titan's power so even he know everything based on dream in the first eps, he didn't remember it until Eren kissed historia's hand
When eren kissed historia hands,I don't think eren knows he's the one forcing grisha to kill reiss family. Same as sasha's death i think he didn't know. Because grisha said "why show me everything" , so eren can choose memories he want to send. When eren kissed historia hand, if he knew sasha dies because of his action or manipulate grisha, he would hesitate to moving forward. So future eren didn't send inconvenient memories to manipulate past eren.
@@Darkness13world "why don't you show me everything" is what grisha said, Eren didn't show Grisha everything like sometimes he can't see them when Eren and Zeke back to memories,
And about Sasha, my theory is that he knew about it, there is a theory why Eren laugh when Sasha died, it's because everthing he saw from his memories of the future are really true and he can't do anything about it
It's sooo fascinating how AoT makes our brain to think very hard on how every little thing is connected. The feeling when we realized all of that is so fucking great lol
You got all the traits I want to a reactors 1. Chill and a bit hyped
2. Analyzing every details
Now you understand Eren actually manipulated Isayama into writing Attack on Titan in the first place
Guys remember when The owl aka Eren Kruger was telling Grisha that he should go inside the walls and have a family so that they can save Mikasa and Armin. That was Eren basically making himself into existence by showing him too glimpses of the future.
I laugh so much too when Eren was being sarcastic with Zeke 😂
I read from someone else how the founding titan is controlled by its beginning and the attack titan is controlled by its end. Pretty crazy
The whole story of AOT is based on contrast and a lot of opposites. Definitely one of the best stories of any show in general
Anyone confused with how the Eren manipulated Grisha can check it out :-
The Attack Titan has the ability to look into the future. This means that Grisha saw Eren viewing his memories in the future with Zeke. By that logic, Grisha saw himself through Eren’s eyes. This means that when Grisha actually went to retake the Founding Titan, he already saw these certain scenes through Eren.
It's technically more so the past; the holders of Attack Titan can send their memories to past holders. So the memories Eren saw were memories he sent to past holders, but then saw again through the POV of past holders during present time. You cannot actually see into the future persay.
some details so it makes sense. this is why Eren Krueger mentioned Grisha had to save Mikasa and Armin. after which he wonders who's memories he saw. (eren yeager) just before letting Grisha devour him and become the next inheritor.
The reason why Eren can talk to Grisha in his memories is because the event has already happened.
What Grisha saw/heard (he can see the memories of Eren from the future) was Eren with Zeke looking at the memories of the past. (cycle)
and Eren telling Grisha he has to do it.
its funny noting Eren uses almost the exact same sentences against Grisha that Eren Krueger said to him (Grisha)
its chilling.. ''Aren't you the one who started this story?''
I think Owl saw Grisha's memories, not Eren's. Not only because that's less complicated, since those were Grisha's words, (rather than Eren's memories of Grisha's words), and because Grisha uttering that line after hearing them from owl, who heard them from Grisha, makes it come full circle. But also because Owl said he didn't know who's memories these were. If he was seeing things from young Eren's perspective, he should be able to recognize an older Grisha in front of him. But if he saw those memories from Grisha's eyes, then he would see a small child in front of him that he couldn't possibly recognize.
@@celeschan90 well Kruger could see Eren´s memories when Grisha was already dead, so u still cant say whom memories Kruger saw
@@Syleion Which memories of Eren's did Kruger see when Grisha was already dead? And how does that change the situation? I'm not saying he can't possibly see Eren's memories, but that this particular memory seems to be from Grisha, since it's less complicated that way, and because he didn't seem to know whose memories they were, indicating that he may have been looking through Grisha's eyes at young Eren (whom he cannot recognize) rather than looking through young Eren's eyes at older Grisha, who he can recognize.
@@celeschan90 who said that he was looking on young eren or eren on older grisha, wtf
@@Syleion What memory were you talking about before? And to answer your question, the line "To save Mikasa, and Armin and everyone" was said by Grisha when he was about to inject Eren and pass on his Titans to him. So if Owl received a memory from this moment, why would he not see either one of them? In this episode Grisha appears to view Eren's memories through Eren's eyes/field of vision. This explains why Grisha at the end first did not see Zeke even though he knew he was there. And then moments later he was somehow able to see Zeke. Why? What changed? Well seconds after that, we see Eren had appeared and is standing behind them both, viewing them both. Earlier when Grisha thought he saw Zeke in his study, notice how he didn't see Eren? Because Eren was again standing behind both of them, giving Grisha only a view of his own back, and Zeke's front, through Eren's eyes. Just like at the end of the episode. So when Grisha was standing in the doorway talking about the key and seemingly looking straight at future Eren, he was actually seeing himself. That's how he knew that Eren was standing there.
So if that were the case with Owl, that could explain why he didn't know whose memories those were, even though he should know Grisha.
Time travel, even if it's just sending memories to the past, always makes things extremely complicated so I'll try to explain it in a relatively simple way. When
Future Eren (present Eren) was taken into grisha's memories by zeke, he was able to essentially broadcast his memories to grisha in order to motivate him to take the founding titan. But since it was grisha taking the founder (and subsequently giving it to Eren) that allowed Eren to access the paths in the first place, it's a causality loop. Sort of like if a man went back in time to research a historical event, only to inadvertently cause that event to happen, which leads to him going back in time to research the event, and causing it to happen
the real tragedy of erens character is that for someone who seeks freedom more than anything, he is enslaved by the future. Knowing that what he has to do is the only way to achieve his goals he gives up his freedom to save whats most important to him.
“Is it slavery when you get what you want?”
- Vegeta
Eren is basically quoting and referencing Owl by saying "Aren't you the one who started this history" if you remember Kruger also said the same thing to Grisha
After the hand kiss, he changed and saw everything including sasha death.. Sasha death just confirms that the future is set in stone and he cant escape what he must become in the future.
Tatakae! You keep moving forward. Even if you die, even after death
Did your brains tremble? 😂
Devi's analysis sometimes beat the analysis from Jake... what a good job...
I was just thinking that while watching! Spot on.
In my opinion, the Attack Titan has the ability to see the future, and the memories of the heir after him, and Grisha sees Eren's memories, and then finally he saw himself through Eren's memory. And if I'm not mistaken, the Founding Titan has the ability to see the past of the previous heir, so they can return to the past to see Grisha. that's my opinion, if there's anything wrong please forgive me. MY HEAD HURT JUST THINKING OF THIS EPISODE. Oh! Also, I think Eren started to change since he touched Historia's hand at the end of S3.
Eren already had SNK ending planned before Isayama wrote it XD
If Eren hadn't pushed Grisha then everyone on Paradis would've been slaughtered by the Marleyns and the rest of the world back in S1 itself and the Marleyns would've stolen the founding titan and ruled the world since the pacifist king did nothing to protect his/her people. It's because of Eren that the Paradisians are still alive and we got S1,2,3 and 4
If zeke had ate the founding titan the will of the kind would impose itself again and restrain Marley from using the titans like that. The blood line and the founding titan were chained to the pacifism by the old king.
Eren just a slave .. slave for a freedom
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That's why Eren is not wasting any time and is ruthless this season because he has already seen the future and has all the outcomes of this conflict just like doctor strange in Avengers and in every outcome Paradis gets destroyed by the Marleyns and the rest of the world and Eren is following the only path left in which Paradis is saved.
The hype is real.
Eren knew when he kissed Historia’s hand. They referenced it for a split second in this episode
Grisha can see Zeke because Eren was standing behind him and facing at Zeke, so his POV is like a future memory accessed by Grisha.
To explain the future memories bit, the power of the Attack Titan is the power to send memories from its future inheritors back to its past inheritors. That makes it unique from other Titans which can only see memories from the past. The thing with the future memory transfer is that you can't send future memories back to your past self, since the AT only has to power to send the future memories to its past inheritors. There's a loophole, however, which Eren has exploited. If you send future memories to a past inheritor, and then unlock the past memory of that inheritor seeing those future memories, you see your own future memories.
Grisha isn't actually seeing Eren. He's seeing himself in the 3rd person from Eren's pov, thus hearing what Eren is saying. It's the same with Zeke, Grisha only sees Zeke when Eren is directly looking at Zeke. When Eren kissed Historia, he unlocked the last of Grisha's memory of Future Eren sending him the future. Thus Eren learned of events which would occur in the future.
What's interesting is that Eren told Grisha the same words Kruger once told him before giving him the attack titan
Just to clear it up. Eren does know his future. A future Eren to even know gave Grisha the memories to how this story ends. That's how Grisha knows how the story ends. And every titan holder can see their predecessors memories. So Eren has the memories of his future self bc his future self gave them to Grisha. There is actually 3 timelines interacting in Grisha's breakdown scene
bro my head hurts
love your guys’ reaction! Really enjoy the detailed breakdown of what just happened and come up with very interesting questions. I have the same question as you guys! If Future Eren was affecting the pass, then what happened in the original timeline to get to that point! Time stuff is so confusing lol
If universes like AoT, the timeline is fixed and all future, present and the past take place at the same time.
@@cobalt7678 if that is the case, this is like some 5th dimensional universe from my understanding. In a 5th dimensional world, the past present and future exist at the same time.
@@alexo1256 I didn't know that but thanks for the information. Future Eren affected the present and the present Eren grew up and fulfilled the role of future Eren affecting the past.
Eren sending memories back was always a part of the timeline
@@ThatGuyThai I understand that but my point is, if a future Eren was affecting the past, logically how do we get to that point in time if “right now” it hasn’t happened yet. Many would say it’s a fixed timeline, well okay, but how can future events affect the past if the past needed to happen to get to that future. That’s where the theory of the 5th dimension comes in.
He's repeating the words of Eren Kruger. He said to Grisha that you're the one who started this story when he took his sister outside the Marley internment zone
it's a time loop, time travel is always a loop paradox, for example if the present eren did not follow or do what he saw in his future memories, then he wouldn't saw that future memories of him manipulating his dad, but because he will and must do it in the future to manipulate his dad, he sees that future since he kissed historia, if he did not do it, he will see another different future after kissing historia
There's one other person that's also seeing the future... 1st ep of 4th season
It happened when Erin touché dhistoria hand in season 3
If the past changes, the future will be changed, but the future cant change because the future is already decided/happened and if it changes they would've not even be there, which means the future needs to make sure the past roll out perfectly in order to make the future/story as it is whatever route it takes, bad/good.
1:20 eren and zeke sound the same here.
yeah the most plausible theory is that this is a time loop and everything is already predetermined. Btw Eren saw the future memories when he kissed Historia's hand.
also the owl on the wall influenced grisha to marry and have kids before he gave him the attacking titan when he said love someone inside the wall and protect armin and mikasa that means all the previous inheritors can see the future of eren
I feel like you already know... but I think every titan inheritos can see the memories of the past holders, so Eren saw Grisha's memories seeing Eren's memories, so Eren saw his future...
Let's go Ereeeennnn... 💣💣💣💥
you explained it very good now I can comprehend why does eren become so cold blooded. he knew the only thing he was fighting for (freedom) was stolen from him since he inherited the attack titan
So since the Attack Titan can see the future, Grisha was getting Erens memories that moment...very confusing but yeah.
it was stated in this episode but you not got it I think
Eren can show them the memories he wants them to see and he also can see the past the others can only see the future
Now go back and read the title of the first episode! Isayama is insane
Eren has to keep affecting the past as he did here, because that is how he will ensure the future that he saw in his own future memories.
You look like 'Cindy' from the K-drama 'Her Private Life'
I'm not sure if the author thought of an original timeline, but I guess it's possible that everything played out the same way if Eren only received the Attack Titan but not the Founder. Except the part where Eren controlled Titans at the end of season 2.
no. a second timeline isnt needed.
Eren saw everything the moment he kissed historia's hand in season 3 finale. There's only one timeline. Eren just played along with zeke so they can go to the past because he already knew that's what is needed to happen so he can influence Grisha to kill the Reiss family.
10:31
back then eren is the child grisha always want
first episode title
Mind Is broken
I hate how they always end it like that xc
Grisha's VA is going in 😥
That's so messed up 0-0
Grisha weeping over Zeke is one of the most fucked up anime scenes ever
Future eren was the one pulling the strings
Actually Eren just controlled the whole aot verse to the point here ..as we know the Attack titan can see future memories so it makes sense that if eren is the last inheritor of the Attack titan he's the one who saw the last memory of the future and he controlled everything from the beginning to get to the future he saw in memories ...and remember in season 3 when he kissed Historia's hand and got shocked he actually got spoilers of his own life lol ...he received all the founding Titan memories all of his memories for the future ...so in short Eren knows what needs to be done ..and I don't think there's anything to stop him cuz the future can never change ...i just watched the episode like thrice or maybe more to understand the whole plot XD
Time is fucked up, the Attack Titan is basically a character of its own. You can not tell how all this started, remember that where they are right now, there is no time, everything happens in an instant and at the same time nothing is happening, so basically this started with one time line, since the beginning Eren got the attack titan, and once he got inside that place where Zeke and him are he can control everything, probably the first time it happened he tried to change the past and gave the Attack Titan to other people, but in every attempt Eldia didn’t had a future nos he or his friends, so he realized in a eternity and in a instant at the same time that the only way to got was to do everything that has being happening. Its fucked up, you have to take the “time” out of the equation to start trying to make sense on what is happening 😂 Eren can not see the future, but his future self exists since the moment he arrived to the coordinate with Zeke, so he can see the future of his future self since he was able to touch Historia, because the Attack Titan can see the future but not interact with it, but with the founding titan he can see his future through his future self.
一話のタイトルを見てくれ
If Eren is the last Attack titan he will still see his future but nothing above his death. While the previous could see their ends and even after 8t.
eren was disgusted because grisha couldn't kill the royal family.
Could you make the sound of the anime a little louder?! Please!
Parts of a TV-show are very quiet in all videos.
eren dont know anything since there's will be no next inheritor of the attack titan so eren cant access the future just like grisha said the attack titan can see the future through the next inheritor just like kruger he knows armin and mikasa because he has access to the future through eren cause eren will inherit the attack titan after grisha since theres no attack titan after eren he cant access the future
que hermosa se ve ella
'It's pointless"
They're all following erens lead... The attack titans
So who’s memory eren can read. Who is the next attck titan.
no one
eren has read his own memory; the memory of his future self
Attack titan = Eren
Zeke never thought "that father" of him already changes and his beloved brother actually born to be evil.
Interesting discussion so I want to point out that IF Eren really is the last inheritors of Attack Titan then there's no way he see the future beyond his life time bc no more future memories to send to him, he might want to success the plan of whatever future Eren in his dad's memories done.
I think it'd be smart to react to bleach since the last arc is coming this october and when that comes out everyone who reacts to it will get lots of views since bleach will be the talk of the town ❤️❤️
Young eren is irrelevant... Grisha is talking to older eren now... All that is happening now
So eren convinced his father to murder a bunch of children, so his father would give him the power to end the world. eren is incredibly evil. let that sink in.
Why would you fight Eren when he knows the future
Eren already won the war
I think it'd be smart to react to bleach since the last arc is coming this october and when that comes out everyone who reacts to it will get lots of views since bleach will be the talk of the town ❤️❤️
I think it'd be smart to react to bleach since the last arc is coming this october and when that comes out everyone who reacts to it will get lots of views since bleach will be the talk of the town ❤️❤️