Since scrapman didn’t use dragon engines there was no smoke trail. If he was a little smaller and painted white he could have had a huge advantage like appearing basically out of nowhere
Here’s a fun idea: play hide and seek with submarines in the dark depths of an ocean map. Maybe only use one light for the seeker to make it more cinematic.
Also Yzuei ability to just turn midair and destroy* the front of his adversaries is crazy Edit : *Since some people can't understand the sentence if a word is wrong/weird
recommended strat for nimble opponents, stall and let them pass then shoot. (most props have a reverse use that to decelerate quick, then accelerate to regain control and to solidify your lock)
Idea for the next potential dogfights, bring kan, moonbo, kosmo and of course yzuei and some others. Also i have some neat names for them and you scrapman: 1. Yzuei, the cowardly smartass trailmaker 2. Scrapman, the versatile/passionate/ trailmaker with a strong will 3. Kan, a slightly logical, and a comedic passionate trailmaker 4. Kosmo, a unique and passionate trailmaker 5. Moonbo, also a unique and passionate trailmaker, but with slight luck
I see 2 P-38s and a YF-23/F-14 hybrid. Cool planes irl and theirs in-game are cool too. And didn't know the C-82A was thing before this, but good to learn.
Second time suggesting this dogfighting idea: Star Wars inspired builds. Also love how Scrapman almost always goes for redundancy. FYI guys, the term for twin-prop planes is turboprops.
Scrapmans aircraft looks like the P-38 lighting but with another tail piece Yzuei’s Looks like a YF-23 Widow maker JB’s looks like a F-82 Twin Mustang but with a middle cockpit All in all, very cool
Yuzei basically built an f22! That’s so cool and agile! I’ve seen similar maneuvers in videos concerning the f22 but being able to capture that feel so accurately, just amazing
So JB built a twin mustang, scrapping made a P 38 lightning, and usually just made a Mitsubishi zero(The actual build was more in kin to the super tomcat)
This was probably the best collab video you, Yzuei, and JB have done together in my opinion! What are the people's thoughts on another one of these with a plane redesign or an evolution concept?
Tip: If you need to turn to hit a target, letting go of throttle can usually help since you will stay closer to where you were but still be able to maneuver since your thrust won’t be moving you wherever you’re turning
Idea for a challenge. Each build a fight vehicle (could be plane, battle car, tank etc.), then number each person's creation from 1, up to how many are participating. Then randomly assign one of the numbers to a player. That way you dont know who is getting what vehicle for battle. You could get your own, giving you the advantage of knowing how it functions properly. Or someone else could get yours, giving you the advantage of knowing where the strengths and weaknesses are. Might make for an interesting dynamic in both the building and the gameplay.
I feel like it would be a great idea to make a dogfight with all of the planes having articulating thrust because it opens up so much more maneuvers to perform
Yzuie's thrust vectoring really showing why its so dangerous in real life whiping the nose around asserting it's dominance in a dog fight, if the others planes weren't so much chonkier they would have been in a lot more trouble
You guys should do another dog fight but where the building restrictions favor really fast maneuverable planes like Yzuei's, maybe require thrust vectoring, set a weight limit maybe, set a minimum speed limit maybe. I feel like this would be really cool to watch. Maybe even make it first person again this was cool to watch.
You guys should do a 2v2, one team has planes that need to get an altitude sensor under water to refuel using yuzei's system from another vid and the other team has to use subs that glide.
I like this idea in theory, and it was probably pretty fun to be playing, but I feel like a lot of excitement in being able to see the bits flying off the plane and watching your reactions to the deteriorating craft was lost to the viewer here. Probably wouldn't watch future first person battles for that reason. Regardless, thank you for the content.
Ya it is fun seeing the damage, a few ppl my self included like the 1st person, I think it would be great to mitch match the 1st and 3ed person vids would be great for the viewers, for the party's who like one or the other
25:21 Scrapman: "You know what we gotta do? We gotta.. get a fourth person and do Team First-person Dog Fights." Me: "What, like the other boys you don't play with much these days? kAN, Kosmo, and Moonbo? There's *three* people right there for a 3v3 Team game. 😑"
I would love to see first person team dogfights I'd personally love to see a 3v3 Scrapman Kan Kosmo Yuzi JB Little corn dogs That would be epic Please let this happen
Yzuei drifting in midair to kill scrapman is like trying to catch the fast kid in kindergarten, you cant (destroy scrapman that easily) Still very cool.
When my friends and I did something similar, I made a smaller and more manoeuvrable plane that they couldn’t keep behind me. We weren’t allowed thrusters to help the propellers
Idea! Aircraft carrier battle: 2V2 or 3V3 Everyone builds a vehicle, 1carrier and 1-2planes per team, the goal is to destroy the enemy carrier, the planes can respawn infinitely and have to take off from the carrier. The planes should have guns/rockets to fight enemy planes, but can only use torpedoes and guns against the carriers,(rockets and bombs would be too easy) so the carrier also has to dodge the torpedoes while letting the planes take off. I hope you like my idea! P.S. ideally with scrapman. I think there would only be time for 1maybe 2 rounds in a video, but there would be so much action!
2 things: one is that i was wondering if you would ever want to try a challenge about it...😅 And 2:Yzuei did create a plane before that is capable to do a technique that would be usefull for quick turn around😂 tho it is dangerous in many ways as one of them is being that it needs to be capable to quickly go fast after doing the technique and 2 would be the strength of the jets when you doing so that you won't have any issue (the technique that Yzuei have seen in a movie and it did prove that you can do the technique in the game)
I think that you guys should add a rule on whom ever loses too much, is allowed to mod their plane to make it more fair. So there’s better competition amongst you three.
Would be interesting to see a first person dogfight where the weapons don’t lock on… they only shoot like the real thing: straight ahead. You both had a P-38 concept going, like the “Glacier Girl” which I saw when she was still flying-you should look up her history about where she was from 1942 to 1992 and how she got her name! Would also be interesting to see you dig into the history of the Dornier Do 335 “Arrow” (if you haven’t already in another video I just have not yet come across) and try to replicate it.
Oh, I just had an idea. Helicopter dogfight or chase a target where one of you is the pilot and flies and the other operates the weapon(s)-like a real AH-64 Apache or Mi-24 Hind. Teams would use each weapon twice with the pilot and gunner switching for the second round, or each player could build a helicopter of their own and fly it in their round with the team mate not flying that round being the gunner in the nose.
How about first person Tanks or airships? Tanks have the unique option of having your cockpit in the turret so you can naturaly see where you are shooting. While airships could be fun if you could walk on deck. Maybe make airships 2v2, but one person is the captain and other is a gunner
There are also camera blocks which would be really interesting on a tank, though last I've seen those in action it seemed like they would glitch out when taking damage. If that's fixed a battle using them would look really cool, I think.
Video suggestion, first person bombing runs: 2 player teams build a bomber and one player is in charge of piloting and the other player is the bomber. The winning team would be the ones who did the most damage to three or four targets.
maybe for the next one, vtol fighting, cause it would be interesting when ur doing some dogfighting and then someone pretty much switches to vtol creating like a full midair brake to get behind you
![Dogfighting BUT Every 5 Seconds Our Engines Overheat! [Trailmakers]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/k0aHC0Z4ltE/mqdefault.jpg)
Since scrapman didn’t use dragon engines there was no smoke trail. If he was a little smaller and painted white he could have had a huge advantage like appearing basically out of nowhere
Name tags homie
@@Rage7860the name tag will blend in with the clouds
Agreed
@@Rage7860They should redo this with HUD off for a true immersive experience.
@@ProffDumb this tbh, but then you can't see the auto aim. Gotta wait till 1.7 where the feature can be turned on or off.
Here’s a fun idea: play hide and seek with submarines in the dark depths of an ocean map. Maybe only use one light for the seeker to make it more cinematic.
And no hud so this can work best.
Maybe there would be a range they hide in because the whole ocean map or even a large section of it may be too big
@@TheLuconic Great idea! I hope Scrapman notices this comment.
Instead of submarines for hiders make it a shark to make it funnier
@@Threeexpor make the seeker a giant shark and the hiders tiny fish so the seeker can eat them
That manuver that Yzuei pulled off at 11:04 is just insane, it felt like something out of a movie.
thats like a cobra, except that he is doing it whilst turning
Yzuei is basically king in 2 circle
@@GlassOfVittoThat would be more useful in 1 circle
Average yaw user.
bro that was legit a maneuver mihaly did in ace combat
Uzi spinning in was almost as cool as the Immelmann turns he was pulling off.
Yzuei not Uzi
@@SavontPlayz ☝️🤓
@@youngcollector4212since you can see Yzuei's name in the video it is pretty reasonable to expect people to know that it isn't "Uzi" imo
Also Yzuei ability to just turn midair and destroy* the front of his adversaries is crazy
Edit : *Since some people can't understand the sentence if a word is wrong/weird
decimste?
decimate*
@@kacperkonieczny7333 can you not understand the sentence if a letter is wrong?
@@bbittercoffee I understood the sentence. I simply was pointing out the misspelling
Thats like su 57 maneuverabilty
11:05 YZUEI DID AN ACE COMBAT 7 IM SO PROUD OF HIM
these guys gotta play ace combat
NO WAY YOU NEVER DOG FIGHT WITHOUT A COCKPIT VIEW, IT FEELS SO COOL WITH MOTION FEELING UNEXPECTED.
recommended strat for nimble opponents, stall and let them pass then shoot. (most props have a reverse use that to decelerate quick, then accelerate to regain control and to solidify your lock)
Scrapman almost built a p-38 for the challenge, lol.
Yea
JBRider did aswell.
noticed that first when he started doing the propeller lol
My thoughts exactly
If it wasn't for the middle blocks connecting to the tail it would be sooooo close dude
This was one of the coolest trailmakers video's so far, the feel from first person was just epic
This was a very scenimatic video! Great job, gents!
This was so fun to watch, the first person is way better of an experience to witness than I thought it would be.
That challenge really felt immersive, so much more dynamic than in 3rd person.
Loved it
Idea for the next potential dogfights, bring kan, moonbo, kosmo and of course yzuei and some others.
Also i have some neat names for them and you scrapman:
1. Yzuei, the cowardly smartass trailmaker
2. Scrapman, the versatile/passionate/ trailmaker with a strong will
3. Kan, a slightly logical, and a comedic passionate trailmaker
4. Kosmo, a unique and passionate trailmaker
5. Moonbo, also a unique and passionate trailmaker, but with slight luck
Scrapman got the melee kill bc of the 2 shields he placed at the rear, which prevented him from losing his tail when yzuei collided with him
I see 2 P-38s and a YF-23/F-14 hybrid. Cool planes irl and theirs in-game are cool too. And didn't know the C-82A was thing before this, but good to learn.
1 P-38, 1 F-82, and then you got a duckin XO-2 Strike Wyvern
At 2:32 my first thought was "Oh god, he's making a P-38 Lightning"
No way I thought so to
Dude I love ww2 planes
Second time suggesting this dogfighting idea: Star Wars inspired builds. Also love how Scrapman almost always goes for redundancy. FYI guys, the term for twin-prop planes is turboprops.
not exactly. A turboprop is a turbine engine that drives an aircraft propeller. The term for twin-prop planes is just twin-prop plane, or aircraft.
@@traugdor I see, thank you
I would love to see a 3-4 way dogfight with Star Wars themed builds in trailmakers.🤪
@@mikehorrocks2909 as would I
Got to say that first person dog fighting is soooo much better! the dynamics and the game style is awesome!👍
Dude this is actually so legit! I love how cinematic the crashes are!
This is probablly the most fun video of Scrapman i have ever watched,cant wait to see more of this.
Scrapmans aircraft looks like the P-38 lighting but with another tail piece
Yzuei’s Looks like a YF-23 Widow maker
JB’s looks like a F-82 Twin Mustang but with a middle cockpit
All in all, very cool
Yzuei basically has post-stall maneuvers or angle-of-attack limiters when he unsweeps his wings
Yuzeis maneuverability made his plane the best for that round.
Which round?
Bruh, there were 5 rounds, which one?
Yuzie made a jet, not a plane
@@DaysofKnight jets are planes
@@kindagamer525 I think he meant the entire video lol
Wow that nose authority of Yzuei's F22/Super-Tomcat mashup was something. Really awesome build!
Yuzei basically built an f22! That’s so cool and agile! I’ve seen similar maneuvers in videos concerning the f22 but being able to capture that feel so accurately, just amazing
So JB built a twin mustang, scrapping made a P 38 lightning, and usually just made a Mitsubishi zero(The actual build was more in kin to the super tomcat)
This was probably the best collab video you, Yzuei, and JB have done together in my opinion! What are the people's thoughts on another one of these with a plane redesign or an evolution concept?
Tip: If you need to turn to hit a target, letting go of throttle can usually help since you will stay closer to where you were but still be able to maneuver since your thrust won’t be moving you wherever you’re turning
i wonder if making the plane out of glass would help with visibility
Glass is much to heavy and brittle, it would never work.
maybe, but it definitely would help with destructibility which you really don't want.
Yeah, it would work, not irl though
I’m guessing you mean the glass “paint” in trailmakers not irl
Transparent paint only really works on blocks,most pieces and engines don't
would bea bit harder for the enemies to see though, so visual stealth
11:00 till 11:10 is the best 10 seconds i have ever seen in my entire life. many would agree i presume
Day 51 of asking Scrapman to play Besiege (again)
You are doing [[BIG SHOT]] WORK BUDDY
@@matejnentwich1376big shot 😂😂
@@North_wood THATS RIGHT YOU [Little sponge] Y0U!
@@matejnentwich1376when was [[SPAMTON G SPAMTON!]] supposed to be here?
That a great game
Yzuei's jet was absolutely bonkers. Y'all doing some Top Gun stuff here!
The fact yzuei made a f-22 which has the ability of the f-35 (thrust vectoring) and the f-14 (swept wings) is cool
I think the f22 also has the ability to thrust vector since it is an air superiority fighter.
@@pallav8725 it does just the first thing that came to mind was the f-35 since can go vtol
Is it just me, or does anyone else feel like Scrap shoulda shot for that hole at 22:00?
yzuei had an awesome jett the thrust vectoring let him do insane movements!
Idea for a challenge. Each build a fight vehicle (could be plane, battle car, tank etc.), then number each person's creation from 1, up to how many are participating. Then randomly assign one of the numbers to a player. That way you dont know who is getting what vehicle for battle. You could get your own, giving you the advantage of knowing how it functions properly. Or someone else could get yours, giving you the advantage of knowing where the strengths and weaknesses are. Might make for an interesting dynamic in both the building and the gameplay.
I feel like it would be a great idea to make a dogfight with all of the planes having articulating thrust because it opens up so much more maneuvers to perform
Scrap's constant desire to give the tail lift perplexes me
Yzuie's thrust vectoring really showing why its so dangerous in real life whiping the nose around asserting it's dominance in a dog fight, if the others planes weren't so much chonkier they would have been in a lot more trouble
First person destruction derby would probably be insane
Yzuei spawns in like, sorry guys, I didn't know we were going with WW2 planes. I made a 5th gen.
Yzui allways goes for nimble creations for him important thing is speed and maneuverability
This was so freaking awesome, more more more !
Scrap man should do a supersonic dog fight. Where the guns can only fire when going past supersonic speed.
You guys should do another dog fight but where the building restrictions favor really fast maneuverable planes like Yzuei's, maybe require thrust vectoring, set a weight limit maybe, set a minimum speed limit maybe. I feel like this would be really cool to watch. Maybe even make it first person again this was cool to watch.
Your plane and JB's really makes me think of the P 38 World War 2 plane... looks really menacing
JB was more of a F-82 instead of a lightning
You guys should do a 2v2, one team has planes that need to get an altitude sensor under water to refuel using yuzei's system from another vid and the other team has to use subs that glide.
I like this idea in theory, and it was probably pretty fun to be playing, but I feel like a lot of excitement in being able to see the bits flying off the plane and watching your reactions to the deteriorating craft was lost to the viewer here. Probably wouldn't watch future first person battles for that reason. Regardless, thank you for the content.
Ya it is fun seeing the damage, a few ppl my self included like the 1st person, I think it would be great to mitch match the 1st and 3ed person vids would be great for the viewers, for the party's who like one or the other
25:21
Scrapman: "You know what we gotta do? We gotta.. get a fourth person and do Team First-person Dog Fights."
Me: "What, like the other boys you don't play with much these days? kAN, Kosmo, and Moonbo? There's *three* people right there for a 3v3 Team game. 😑"
I would love to see first person team dogfights
I'd personally love to see a 3v3
Scrapman
Kan
Kosmo
Yuzi
JB
Little corn dogs
That would be epic
Please let this happen
I dont know what 3 people are going to be doing on a single plane, unless you mean with different planes and its quite literally a team fight
@@TahaShakir2 3 pilot with 3 planes vs 3 pilots with 3 planes
6 pilots total and 6 planes total
What I wouldn't give to be in one of these videos. The first person dogfighting is just so cinematic! Hope to see more of this!
Massive battle ship battle with 300 complexity in the water and wind map in multiplayer monday
Maybe try two weapons next time?
The rounds will be shorter but there could be just more rounds! :D
This was way too good
I'm always a fan of 1st person when it comes to vehicles, especially planes
That was epic in first person
Yooooo, bro drifting a fighter jet!!
these are fun as hell to watch man. pls make more first person vids
A submarine battle in first person would be cool too👍
The purple thruster flames in the thumbnail really threw me off
Hear me out: Trailmakers VR
Now this is how you should do it. Just like how real pilots get at it.
you should do a dogfight with you, Yzuei, JBRider, Kan, Kosmo, and Moonbo. i think a 6 way Dogfight would be really fun
ok BUT counter idea: TEAMED DOGFIGHTS XD
First person looks so cool. Maybe you could do a challenge with the placable camera’s?
Imagine a dogfight where the only camera angle is behind you, with guns on your tail
Nice content man👌
Now do it in VR
Yzuei drifting in midair to kill scrapman is like trying to catch the fast kid in kindergarten, you cant (destroy scrapman that easily) Still very cool.
You should do a melee only dogfight
Guys don’t forget that a P-38 looked like this similar design too. 10 out of 10 for the throwback
When my friends and I did something similar, I made a smaller and more manoeuvrable plane that they couldn’t keep behind me. We weren’t allowed thrusters to help the propellers
What about first person tanks? Maybe seat in the turret or two players per tank?
Do more of these, it feels more like an actual dogfight
One of the best Channels in the World!!! Keep Going Scrapman!
You guys should do a no hud battle on the high seas map!
1st person space battles. Also, yaw is your best friend in 1st person. Doesn't seem like it's all that important but it can make a sharp turn tighter.
First Person has been something I've always loved. Have there ever been a video of first person vehicle battles in Brick Rigs?
Great video as usual.
Idea: what about a video were you two build a car with a specific theme like, futuristic esthetics, a pirate theme build.
Great job, the designs for this dogfight were on point
12:11 descending into the clouds in fpw then dying looks epic
Idea!
Aircraft carrier battle: 2V2 or 3V3
Everyone builds a vehicle, 1carrier and 1-2planes per team, the goal is to destroy the enemy carrier, the planes can respawn infinitely and have to take off from the carrier. The planes should have guns/rockets to fight enemy planes, but can only use torpedoes and guns against the carriers,(rockets and bombs would be too easy) so the carrier also has to dodge the torpedoes while letting the planes take off.
I hope you like my idea!
P.S. ideally with scrapman. I think there would only be time for 1maybe 2 rounds in a video, but there would be so much action!
Nice Porkins moment there in the rocket round. 😂
if I had friends that played trailmakers this would be so fun to do lol
Facts
Whenever you all dogfight, could you do a weapon of your choice round? That'll be intresting i think.
2 things: one is that i was wondering if you would ever want to try a challenge about it...😅 And 2:Yzuei did create a plane before that is capable to do a technique that would be usefull for quick turn around😂 tho it is dangerous in many ways as one of them is being that it needs to be capable to quickly go fast after doing the technique and 2 would be the strength of the jets when you doing so that you won't have any issue (the technique that Yzuei have seen in a movie and it did prove that you can do the technique in the game)
I swear the only reason scrapman stays in the game whenever they use planes is all the redundancy connections, he just cant be shot down
I think that you guys should add a rule on whom ever loses too much, is allowed to mod their plane to make it more fair. So there’s better competition amongst you three.
Do an experiment with Yuzi so you can figure out where the bullets lock to!
Would be interesting to see a first person dogfight where the weapons don’t lock on… they only shoot like the real thing: straight ahead. You both had a P-38 concept going, like the “Glacier Girl” which I saw when she was still flying-you should look up her history about where she was from 1942 to 1992 and how she got her name!
Would also be interesting to see you dig into the history of the Dornier Do 335 “Arrow” (if you haven’t already in another video I just have not yet come across) and try to replicate it.
You and yzuei are my favorite youtubers I love to watch your videos keep up the good work
Oh, I just had an idea. Helicopter dogfight or chase a target where one of you is the pilot and flies and the other operates the weapon(s)-like a real AH-64 Apache or Mi-24 Hind. Teams would use each weapon twice with the pilot and gunner switching for the second round, or each player could build a helicopter of their own and fly it in their round with the team mate not flying that round being the gunner in the nose.
12:03 Man, that was so realistic!
Building off of the first person idea, scrapman and yuzei’s stunt builds like landing a plane in a truck bed in first person
How about first person Tanks or airships?
Tanks have the unique option of having your cockpit in the turret so you can naturaly see where you are shooting.
While airships could be fun if you could walk on deck.
Maybe make airships 2v2, but one person is the captain and other is a gunner
There are also camera blocks which would be really interesting on a tank, though last I've seen those in action it seemed like they would glitch out when taking damage. If that's fixed a battle using them would look really cool, I think.
honestly i love, even PREVER fpv in dogfights since the update u can look around in fpv
Dogfight first person but backwards seats😂
Video suggestion, first person bombing runs: 2 player teams build a bomber and one player is in charge of piloting and the other player is the bomber. The winning team would be the ones who did the most damage to three or four targets.
Would be cool for a motorcycle battle concept where you will build motorcycles with guns and battle them out
@muis1498 yeah but with more guns and chaos
Mad Max time 😎
@@Mazapine yeah im thinking of scrapman making a mad max like motorcycle or a good looking one
maybe for the next one, vtol fighting, cause it would be interesting when ur doing some dogfighting and then someone pretty much switches to vtol creating like a full midair brake to get behind you
First person motorcycle races would be a cool concept to try.
I think an interesting idea would to do plane wrestling. Literally just making thick survivable planes to wrestle with.