Can we talk about how scary the ark design is? Of course its smaller but if I saw that thing in the sky I would shit my pants especially the eclipse cannon
I knew he worked on past animations, but not Dark Beginnings specifically! That's killer!!! I've been a fan of him ever since I saw his art in the Archie Unleashed arc, it's phenomenal what he does for us. He might have the most influence in Sonic making a comeback.
Yes, my best guess and theory is that Gerald is the true main villain of the movie. Eggman said they can rule humanity, Gerald wants them to destroy the world. I feel like he's gonna betray Eggman and Shadow because he's using them to destroy the Earth. And there's a scene where Shadow feels somber when looking at Earth. He'll remember Maria's promise, and turn against Gerald when learning that he ruined his memories.
>Yes, my best guess and theory is that Gerald is the true main villain of the movie. Eggman said they can rule humanity, Gerald wants them to destroy the world. I feel like he's gonna betray Eggman and Shadow because he's using them to destroy the Earth. And there's a scene where Shadow feels somber when looking at Earth. He'll remember Maria's promise, and turn against Gerald when learning that he ruined his memories. I guarantee you that's exactly what is going to happen. God, these movies are so predictable.
I don't mind predictable as long as it's well-written. There are a lot of interested ppl who aren't familiar with the games (incl. peers who once poked fun at me for being a Sonic fan), and they're actually drawing in new fans, so it's good for the franchise. I remember finding a post online of a newb asking for game recommendations, cos they really loved the first two movies and the third made them interested in Shadow even tho it isn't even out yet.
@@DolphynsDeck, that's gonna be so sad for Eggman. His hero. His ideal, his only family, was using him and was perfectly fine with destroying the planet. Eggman wants to rule the world, not destroy it.
I honestly think Gerald being alive is a brilliant twist on the SA2 story. GUN didn't exist then and Gerald most likely escaped punishment for his deeds after losing Maria. Now that he has a Grandson he can manipulate, there's going to be a much bigger confrontation once his true malicious purpose is revealed. It's a definite twist from Eggman cleaning up his mess in the game.
Agreed!!! And since he's lived much longer I bet he's only gotten worse as time went on. He was spotted in an orange jumpsuit in the trailer so I bet he was just imprisoned this whole time.
5:08 honestly I’ve enjoyed all of the designs and to me the slow transition from black coat, to semi game design, to straight up game design feels like an evolution of him going from Robotnik to Eggman, what was once a genius unhinged roboticist is now a mad man craving power on a planetary scale. 7:08 I feel like stuff like him being very jokey and whatever that Christmas scene is gonna be is just him trying to make himself seem more “friendly” to his grandson until at some point he shows a level of evil that even Egge wouldn’t cross. 7:55 bro if that happens I will bust EVERYWHERE, it would absolutely be a worthy replacement for Biolizard. 9:21 it’s very likely both projects just took inspiration from each other since they were both in development at the same time. 11:22 glad someone else thinks the same like why is this shit getting me spooked😭💀Idk probably something with the piano and how doom and gloomy every shot is. 11:27 NAHHHH Eggman left Stone on Earth that unloyal bitch☠️ 12:10 haven’t watched the films in a bit but I don’t remember there being any loose threads, also wouldn’t be surprised if maybe Gerald made contact with the echidnas for something involving chaos energy since they did have the emeralds at one point before fusing them into the master emerald. 13:46 I think if they’re ever gonna show an actual Chao its gotta be for a movie with Chaos although I do see them hinting at Silver for movie 4.
The loose end that most people are referring too is the fact long claw needed to protect sonic because of his powers. 2 even acknowledged this by sonic saying that Eggman and knuckles will never get his powers. I hope this movie talks more about chaos energy and how maybe Shadow and sonic and friends are connected to the chaos emeralds in some way. Would be a nice bow on everything that had come before I think.
what i always pictured about the sonic movies that in the first movie he is classic sonic then as the movies go on he starts to become more modern sonic, which i am so glad that thats what seems to be happening, even with eggman now having his modern design, and tbh you could even consider sonics model tweaking throughout the movies is him just becoming more modern
Eggman is definitely probably one of my favorite things about the evolution of these movies. His design slowly being cautified into the game eggman we see. Remember at first they man just was an independent scientist who happened to be a competent yet zanny Black Op's for hire sort of deal. It was only after he found Sonic's power that he tried his bid towards world domination. Then in the second movie he was only further driven towards this goal by the master emerald. This is one of the few times where we can see how someone could become Eggman.
Yeah, he probably got subtly taller and lankier over time. I saw a closeup of Sonic's eyes that made the green look like Perfect Chaos a little bit. Could narratively tie into his connection with the emeralds. It's cool we can notice these extremely small things that have so much meaning in the long-run. My dream would be for Sonic to eventually mature into his game personality after all these experiences.
One detail I noticed. Shadow himself seems to power the Eclipse Cannon, which is actually a very clever call back to the first movie when Sonic creates that gigantic Energy surge when he has that meltdown on the Baseball field. We also see a close up of Shadow's pain and anguish on his face, no doubt having thoughts of Maria while he's powering it.
@@DolphynsDeck It also makes me wonder how the Master Emerald and Chaos Emerald will come into play. In the game universe it was the power source, but here in the movies it's locked in a cooler. Shadow is gonna be shocked at his power boost.
Calling the third act right now: Gerald reveals his intentions to destroy the world by using his Black Hole technology in lieu of the Biolizard. He wants to destroy the planet and/or do some wobbly wobbly timey wimey stuff to rewrite history and this puts him at odds with Ivo. Meanwhile, Supers Sonic & Shadow are duking it out with Earth in the ARK’s collision course/line of fire with the situation looking extremely dire but Sonic has to basically use talk no jutsu to convince Shadow that letting the countless Marias of the world with their own hopes, dreams, and loved ones die goes against everything he cherished about his bond with his Maria.
11:17 this part on sonic eyes you see some things glowing red,white,yellow,green,blue,ciano,pink you know what that is right? Its THE CHAOS EMERALDS and in the scene where all the lava appear you see an golden flash passing there quickly probaly Super sonic or Super shadow
They deserve to fight eachother!!!! This could break new ground for the franchise as a whole (and rip off DB once more) And like I said, I don't expect a full CG Biolozard so this makes the most sense.
@@DolphynsDeckthey've gotta reference the biolizard in some way even if it isn't in the movie. I can just imagine shadow seeing a lizard on the ground then being discussed and stepping on it
Spoilers but from storyboard leaks, there will be a Super Sonic and Shadow moment at the end where Shadow stops the ARK from destroying Earth, sacrificing himself like in A2
Here me out stupid theory incoming: What if Gerald is actually black doom pretending to be him: LET ME COOK Clue 1: one of his lines I’ve heard that I believed was Gerald was “it’s time *shadow* “ that shadow part however sounded different to Jim Carreys voice of Gerald if anything it sounds more scarier darker and tougher this could be black dooms voice Clue 2:in one of the previous promos I think we see Gerald showing eggman his childhood based on the Christmas tree bit at the end of the trailer WHAT IF this is black doom using his type of magic/powers making these hallucinations to eggman perhaps lying to him and saying “there holograms showing your past!” it could be why black doom is manipulating eggman probably needing him for his tech/machines for his own purposes Final clue: we hear eggman say “with shadows power we can RULE THE WORLD” >:D But then it follows up with shadow saying “when we’re done there won’t be anything left TO RULE” and then we hear Gerald say something about shadows destiny which sounded strange HEAR ME OUT! Black doom could have revealed himself to shadow and say that they should destroy the world for what the did to Maria and shadow possible agreeing only to betray black doom and learn to save humanity Pin ultimate theory: black doom is pretending to be Gerald, who had already got executed via the G.U.N military so black doom could trick eggman and have shadow work on his side so he and shadow could destroy the world but shadow would team up with sonic to take down black doom that my theory
@ fair BUT then again this is an alternative universe to the normal Sonic the Hedgehog series so maybe black doom is just some tyrannical alien overlord who just wants to destroy things cause evil mustache villain Also he would be a counter opposite to eggman who justs wants to RULE the world
@ fair BUT then again this is an alternative universe to the normal Sonic the Hedgehog series so maybe black doom is just some tyrannical alien overlord who just wants to destroy things cause evil mustache villain Also he would be a counter opposite to eggman who justs wants to RULE the world
4:18 Even if Shadow is being used as a tool, I don't think he will care because, remember, in SA2, Shadow wants all humans to dead, and in that game, he took everyone, like Eggman and Rouge, to get what he wants, he basically using Rouge as tool. What am trying to say, I think Shadow doesn't care what he doing right now because so dive by has flase goal. He won't care if Garald use him as tool, he only care about ending the planet no matter what he has to do, because he royal to do anything for Maria just like ending of Sonic X Shadow Game!!
I like Gerald being alive and well. Potentially makes him an even bigger threat. And he has a loyal and grieving Shadow and a washed-out villain grandson he could manipulate. So far, Jim Carrey and the trailers have given my non-Sonic-fan friends the impression that Gerald is a comedy-type character. Knowing the source material and Jim's past non-comedic roles, I can't wait for them to see Gerald's dark side, lol. Loving the idea of Tails having wearable tech. We need MORE of that in the games. I remember treating SA2's Bounce Bracelet (with the spiky upgrade hidden) as Sonic's direct line to Tails and later having it on Gens via the Customizable Sonic mod, heh. Sorry for the lengthy comment. Just really interested in and excited for this movie.
I love lengthy comments! I appreciate your insight. Hard agree with Tails btw. I love how he made the extreme gear to keep up with Sonic in the Archie Comics.
With Sonic and co in the movies being extraterrestrial beings, I'm wondering how they're gonna explain Gerald engineering a creature that looks identical to creatures that won't come into contact with Earth for nearly 50 years. I expect a character will observe this oddity, go "huh, that's weird", and the movie will not give an answer.
Maybe there will be a real answer for that tbh. Project Shadow was covered up so it makes sense the world was "re-discovering" aliens in Sonic 1/2. I can see them linking the whole Black Arms lore to the concept of the multiverse that was established in Sonic 2 (and the tie-in comic). Maybe it was a part of Gerald's research.
Yeah, there's something scary as all hell about the Ark at the end there. Maybe it's the sharper, almost alien-like design. It just looks like a doomsday weapon, as intended. I would also love to see a live action Biolizard in this film. The design would be absolute nightmare fuel, but it would be really awesome to see it as the final threat. Still, I recognize Gerald as the main threat for this movie. He'll have his funny moments, but there's something about him in this trailer that makes me think he'll be legitimately intimidating compared to the likes of Eggman. Maybe it's his design or the subtlety of Jim Carry's acting for him. Hard to say, since we haven't seen a lot of Gerald. Of course that Santa part at the end makes me think otherwise! That could be some wacky fantasy Eggman dreamed up, though. lol
I believe the goofiness with Gerald is an act. Probably to get on Eggman's good side. Some of it will be genuine I'm sure, but they're definitely going to pull the rug out from the new fans' feet. Gotta agree with your description of the Ark. It feels like an overwhelming invasion no one was prepared for. Especially with how much room it hogs in the vacuum of space.
@@DolphynsDeck actually hear me out, i just finished the knuckles show and the bearded guy that wanna catch him said that he worked at GUN before it was called GUN, ion know if the show is canon to the movies but maybe theyll try to insert that story
And the firey explosion in the ground, and Shadow saying "This ends now" sort of referencing Silver's whole "This ends now, iblis trigger!" thing? Might be going too deep into this
@@kathyragunathan6325 imagine that I'm now theorising what the post credits may be. I think i know the answer... "These flames.. They've been a constant disaster." I'm sorry that was so cheesy
I think the first trailer showed things on the wrong order: First, Gerald and Eggman are going to become allies, then, Eggman is going to find out he wants to destroy the planet, so he joins Sonic (If I can’t rule the world, I might as well save it)
11:17 if you look near the center of his eyes you can see all seven chaos elemards coming too sonic I'm guessing that super sonic vs super shadow fight is going to happen
I would like to see a Super Sonic vs. Super Shadow fight, but I don't think that would happen. I think that the Emeralds energy needs to be shared to turn other people Super. The only example of this not being the case is Perfect Chaos as he took the negative energy and then disgarded the Emeralds. It wouldn't make sense to have them turn each other Super just to fight.
In my mind I can see Shadow powering up as his final attempt to destroy the planet but Sonic runs at him last moment in an act of desperation which in turn transforms them both.
I have a theory that if they can’t do biolizard then they’ll use chaos idk why or how but yes mostly because it be easy to animate a CGI water monster then a giant lizard monster
Weirdly enough, I feel all the water particles, ripples, and shaders would be very complex. I have to agree though, I could see them using Chaos instead because he hasn't appeared in any form (plus it can tie into the master emerald). Really funny how Iblis showed up in Movie-Canon before either of them, huh?
Honestly I think shadow might just be the main villain I don’t think he will turn good I think at the end of the movie Gerald shadow and eggman are all going to die but shadow in the trailers looks liek really the draw the main thing the one who’s going to affect the whole movie Gerald and eggman Just seem like the behind the scenes controllers
i don’t quite understand the change in title, at first you said it’s gonna show the worst version of him, but now he’s gonna apparently be the biggest threat?
SPOILER ALERT: in the post credit sonic does a dab, and then Jonesy from Fortnite hopped out of a ring portal and then he says come on sonic let’s Fortnite battle Royale with the default dance riff at the end of the movie when we fade to black
Thanks! I find that I always obsess over niche aspects of media before they release and it 'corrects' my understanding of it. Half the fun is the speculation imo.
SPOILER ALERT: Wade Whipple becomes the Biolizard
Why does that actually sound like shit that paramount would do tho
I don’t see it happening
LIES!!!! He becomes Mephiles couldn’t you tell the foreshadowing over his obsession with the flames of disaster!?!?!!?
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How does that work the biolizard was created 50 years ago and wade is like 30
Can we talk about how scary the ark design is? Of course its smaller but if I saw that thing in the sky I would shit my pants especially the eclipse cannon
The sharp, sudden noises they used for its appearance in space was chilling. The last half of the trailer felt eerie.
Tyson Hesse working on the movies and the animations, the Dark Beginnings connection is 100% intentional.
I knew he worked on past animations, but not Dark Beginnings specifically! That's killer!!! I've been a fan of him ever since I saw his art in the Archie Unleashed arc, it's phenomenal what he does for us. He might have the most influence in Sonic making a comeback.
Cream:
Mother. There are wierd people with Chao costumes taking pictures of us.
Vanilla:
Close and lock the door, Honey.
Yes, my best guess and theory is that Gerald is the true main villain of the movie. Eggman said they can rule humanity, Gerald wants them to destroy the world. I feel like he's gonna betray Eggman and Shadow because he's using them to destroy the Earth. And there's a scene where Shadow feels somber when looking at Earth. He'll remember Maria's promise, and turn against Gerald when learning that he ruined his memories.
Same
>Yes, my best guess and theory is that Gerald is the true main villain of the movie. Eggman said they can rule humanity, Gerald wants them to destroy the world. I feel like he's gonna betray Eggman and Shadow because he's using them to destroy the Earth. And there's a scene where Shadow feels somber when looking at Earth. He'll remember Maria's promise, and turn against Gerald when learning that he ruined his memories.
I guarantee you that's exactly what is going to happen. God, these movies are so predictable.
I don't mind predictable as long as it's well-written. There are a lot of interested ppl who aren't familiar with the games (incl. peers who once poked fun at me for being a Sonic fan), and they're actually drawing in new fans, so it's good for the franchise.
I remember finding a post online of a newb asking for game recommendations, cos they really loved the first two movies and the third made them interested in Shadow even tho it isn't even out yet.
Even in the end of SA2 Eggman sounded off-put by Gerald's plan to destroy the world. He gassed him up the whole time and then was like 'oh shit..'
@@DolphynsDeck, that's gonna be so sad for Eggman. His hero. His ideal, his only family, was using him and was perfectly fine with destroying the planet. Eggman wants to rule the world, not destroy it.
I honestly think Gerald being alive is a brilliant twist on the SA2 story. GUN didn't exist then and Gerald most likely escaped punishment for his deeds after losing Maria. Now that he has a Grandson he can manipulate, there's going to be a much bigger confrontation once his true malicious purpose is revealed. It's a definite twist from Eggman cleaning up his mess in the game.
Agreed!!! And since he's lived much longer I bet he's only gotten worse as time went on.
He was spotted in an orange jumpsuit in the trailer so I bet he was just imprisoned this whole time.
8:55 pretty much everyone’s reaction LOL
5:08 honestly I’ve enjoyed all of the designs and to me the slow transition from black coat, to semi game design, to straight up game design feels like an evolution of him going from Robotnik to Eggman, what was once a genius unhinged roboticist is now a mad man craving power on a planetary scale.
7:08 I feel like stuff like him being very jokey and whatever that Christmas scene is gonna be is just him trying to make himself seem more “friendly” to his grandson until at some point he shows a level of evil that even Egge wouldn’t cross.
7:55 bro if that happens I will bust EVERYWHERE, it would absolutely be a worthy replacement for Biolizard.
9:21 it’s very likely both projects just took inspiration from each other since they were both in development at the same time.
11:22 glad someone else thinks the same like why is this shit getting me spooked😭💀Idk probably something with the piano and how doom and gloomy every shot is.
11:27 NAHHHH Eggman left Stone on Earth that unloyal bitch☠️
12:10 haven’t watched the films in a bit but I don’t remember there being any loose threads, also wouldn’t be surprised if maybe Gerald made contact with the echidnas for something involving chaos energy since they did have the emeralds at one point before fusing them into the master emerald.
13:46 I think if they’re ever gonna show an actual Chao its gotta be for a movie with Chaos although I do see them hinting at Silver for movie 4.
The loose end that most people are referring too is the fact long claw needed to protect sonic because of his powers.
2 even acknowledged this by sonic saying that Eggman and knuckles will never get his powers.
I hope this movie talks more about chaos energy and how maybe Shadow and sonic and friends are connected to the chaos emeralds in some way.
Would be a nice bow on everything that had come before I think.
I’m so hyped, this movie will be my fave of this year easily.
what i always pictured about the sonic movies that in the first movie he is classic sonic then as the movies go on he starts to become more modern sonic, which i am so glad that thats what seems to be happening, even with eggman now having his modern design, and tbh you could even consider sonics model tweaking throughout the movies is him just becoming more modern
Eggman is definitely probably one of my favorite things about the evolution of these movies. His design slowly being cautified into the game eggman we see.
Remember at first they man just was an independent scientist who happened to be a competent yet zanny Black Op's for hire sort of deal.
It was only after he found Sonic's power that he tried his bid towards world domination.
Then in the second movie he was only further driven towards this goal by the master emerald.
This is one of the few times where we can see how someone could become Eggman.
Yeah, he probably got subtly taller and lankier over time. I saw a closeup of Sonic's eyes that made the green look like Perfect Chaos a little bit. Could narratively tie into his connection with the emeralds.
It's cool we can notice these extremely small things that have so much meaning in the long-run. My dream would be for Sonic to eventually mature into his game personality after all these experiences.
One detail I noticed. Shadow himself seems to power the Eclipse Cannon, which is actually a very clever call back to the first movie when Sonic creates that gigantic Energy surge when he has that meltdown on the Baseball field.
We also see a close up of Shadow's pain and anguish on his face, no doubt having thoughts of Maria while he's powering it.
That's so badass!!! It's a common theme throughout the Movieverse too with the way The Buyer used Knuckles' power for his mech.
@@DolphynsDeck It also makes me wonder how the Master Emerald and Chaos Emerald will come into play. In the game universe it was the power source, but here in the movies it's locked in a cooler.
Shadow is gonna be shocked at his power boost.
When Shadow whips out his gun you know he ain't playing.
And the scary part is, he probably doesn't even need the gun.
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Calling the third act right now: Gerald reveals his intentions to destroy the world by using his Black Hole technology in lieu of the Biolizard. He wants to destroy the planet and/or do some wobbly wobbly timey wimey stuff to rewrite history and this puts him at odds with Ivo. Meanwhile, Supers Sonic & Shadow are duking it out with Earth in the ARK’s collision course/line of fire with the situation looking extremely dire but Sonic has to basically use talk no jutsu to convince Shadow that letting the countless Marias of the world with their own hopes, dreams, and loved ones die goes against everything he cherished about his bond with his Maria.
"countless Marias of the world" goes hard af.
11:17 this part on sonic eyes you see some things glowing red,white,yellow,green,blue,ciano,pink you know what that is right? Its THE CHAOS EMERALDS and in the scene where all the lava appear you see an golden flash passing there quickly probaly Super sonic or Super shadow
They deserve to fight eachother!!!! This could break new ground for the franchise as a whole (and rip off DB once more)
And like I said, I don't expect a full CG Biolozard so this makes the most sense.
@@DolphynsDeckthey've gotta reference the biolizard in some way even if it isn't in the movie. I can just imagine shadow seeing a lizard on the ground then being discussed and stepping on it
Spoilers but from storyboard leaks, there will be a Super Sonic and Shadow moment at the end where Shadow stops the ARK from destroying Earth, sacrificing himself like in A2
So... No bliozard?
That means we’ll be getting shadow amnesia arc in shadow tv show/movie and potentially 4
So Shadow is gonna die?
seeing this title made me happy, gerald is the real threat just like sa2
Here me out stupid theory incoming:
What if Gerald is actually black doom pretending to be him: LET ME COOK
Clue 1: one of his lines I’ve heard that I believed was Gerald was “it’s time *shadow* “ that shadow part however sounded different to Jim Carreys voice of Gerald if anything it sounds more scarier darker and tougher this could be black dooms voice
Clue 2:in one of the previous promos I think we see Gerald showing eggman his childhood based on the Christmas tree bit at the end of the trailer WHAT IF this is black doom using his type of magic/powers making these hallucinations to eggman perhaps lying to him and saying “there holograms showing your past!” it could be why black doom is manipulating eggman probably needing him for his tech/machines for his own purposes
Final clue: we hear eggman say “with shadows power we can RULE THE WORLD” >:D But then it follows up with shadow saying “when we’re done there won’t be anything left TO RULE” and then we hear Gerald say something about shadows destiny which sounded strange HEAR ME OUT! Black doom could have revealed himself to shadow and say that they should destroy the world for what the did to Maria and shadow possible agreeing only to betray black doom and learn to save humanity
Pin ultimate theory: black doom is pretending to be Gerald, who had already got executed via the G.U.N military so black doom could trick eggman and have shadow work on his side so he and shadow could destroy the world but shadow would team up with sonic to take down black doom that my theory
Well the thing is black doom didnt want to destroy humanity lol he needed fuel for his army and his choice of fuel happened to be humans
@ fair BUT then again this is an alternative universe to the normal Sonic the Hedgehog series so maybe black doom is just some tyrannical alien overlord who just wants to destroy things cause evil mustache villain Also he would be a counter opposite to eggman who justs wants to RULE the world
@ fair BUT then again this is an alternative universe to the normal Sonic the Hedgehog series so maybe black doom is just some tyrannical alien overlord who just wants to destroy things cause evil mustache villain Also he would be a counter opposite to eggman who justs wants to RULE the world
He has a Gun and it’s already MOVIE OF THE YEAR 💯💯🔥🔥
Dr robotnik's transformation has been completed
He IS the Eggman. Now he just needs the master plan.
Sonic Adventure reference?@@DolphynsDeck
4:18 Even if Shadow is being used as a tool, I don't think he will care because, remember, in SA2, Shadow wants all humans to dead, and in that game, he took everyone, like Eggman and Rouge, to get what he wants, he basically using Rouge as tool. What am trying to say, I think Shadow doesn't care what he doing right now because so dive by has flase goal. He won't care if Garald use him as tool, he only care about ending the planet no matter what he has to do, because he royal to do anything for Maria just like ending of Sonic X Shadow Game!!
Subbed, definitely like your vibe and analysis, thanks for the positivity, I'm so ready for December 20th! 🙌🏾😃
I like Gerald being alive and well. Potentially makes him an even bigger threat. And he has a loyal and grieving Shadow and a washed-out villain grandson he could manipulate.
So far, Jim Carrey and the trailers have given my non-Sonic-fan friends the impression that Gerald is a comedy-type character. Knowing the source material and Jim's past non-comedic roles, I can't wait for them to see Gerald's dark side, lol.
Loving the idea of Tails having wearable tech. We need MORE of that in the games. I remember treating SA2's Bounce Bracelet (with the spiky upgrade hidden) as Sonic's direct line to Tails and later having it on Gens via the Customizable Sonic mod, heh.
Sorry for the lengthy comment. Just really interested in and excited for this movie.
I love lengthy comments! I appreciate your insight. Hard agree with Tails btw. I love how he made the extreme gear to keep up with Sonic in the Archie Comics.
He forgot to say generations that was kinda sus 4:18
'forgot' 😉
With Sonic and co in the movies being extraterrestrial beings, I'm wondering how they're gonna explain Gerald engineering a creature that looks identical to creatures that won't come into contact with Earth for nearly 50 years.
I expect a character will observe this oddity, go "huh, that's weird", and the movie will not give an answer.
Maybe there will be a real answer for that tbh. Project Shadow was covered up so it makes sense the world was "re-discovering" aliens in Sonic 1/2. I can see them linking the whole Black Arms lore to the concept of the multiverse that was established in Sonic 2 (and the tie-in comic). Maybe it was a part of Gerald's research.
Yeah, there's something scary as all hell about the Ark at the end there. Maybe it's the sharper, almost alien-like design. It just looks like a doomsday weapon, as intended. I would also love to see a live action Biolizard in this film. The design would be absolute nightmare fuel, but it would be really awesome to see it as the final threat.
Still, I recognize Gerald as the main threat for this movie. He'll have his funny moments, but there's something about him in this trailer that makes me think he'll be legitimately intimidating compared to the likes of Eggman. Maybe it's his design or the subtlety of Jim Carry's acting for him. Hard to say, since we haven't seen a lot of Gerald. Of course that Santa part at the end makes me think otherwise! That could be some wacky fantasy Eggman dreamed up, though. lol
I believe the goofiness with Gerald is an act. Probably to get on Eggman's good side. Some of it will be genuine I'm sure, but they're definitely going to pull the rug out from the new fans' feet.
Gotta agree with your description of the Ark. It feels like an overwhelming invasion no one was prepared for. Especially with how much room it hogs in the vacuum of space.
If GUN was created after the event of sonic movie 1, i wonder how they gonna do the maria dying stuff
Probably the military killed Maria, at least in this scenario.
Probably the military killed Maria, and everyone onboard.
My guess was that an accident really DID happen on the Ark in this world and that's how Maria dies.
@@DolphynsDeck actually hear me out, i just finished the knuckles show and the bearded guy that wanna catch him said that he worked at GUN before it was called GUN, ion know if the show is canon to the movies but maybe theyll try to insert that story
@@aaaamineOf course it's canon to the movies. That's the entire point of a cinematic universe.
Am I the only one who realized that his world is the trailer music?
Yea
And the firey explosion in the ground, and Shadow saying "This ends now" sort of referencing Silver's whole "This ends now, iblis trigger!" thing?
Might be going too deep into this
@@Aliix458 or maybe you are not and just figured out movie 4
@@kathyragunathan6325 imagine that
I'm now theorising what the post credits may be. I think i know the answer...
"These flames.. They've been a constant disaster."
I'm sorry that was so cheesy
@@Aliix458 Silver for movie 4
11:30 The first time I saw this I instantly thought it was Iblis
I don't like that he's alive, that was a really questionable choice, and Gerald isn't supposed to be explicitly a villain.
Well, a lot of characters are different in this universe so I'm open to the concept
@@DolphynsDeckAgreed, I'm still really excited for this movie.
I think the first trailer showed things on the wrong order: First, Gerald and Eggman are going to become allies, then, Eggman is going to find out he wants to destroy the planet, so he joins Sonic (If I can’t rule the world, I might as well save it)
11:17 if you look near the center of his eyes you can see all seven chaos elemards coming too sonic I'm guessing that super sonic vs super shadow fight is going to happen
Glad I predicted it before I saw that detail! Thanks for pointing it out!
SPOLIER ALRT: TAILS IS A EVOLVED PICUCHU
I would like to see a Super Sonic vs. Super Shadow fight, but I don't think that would happen. I think that the Emeralds energy needs to be shared to turn other people Super. The only example of this not being the case is Perfect Chaos as he took the negative energy and then disgarded the Emeralds. It wouldn't make sense to have them turn each other Super just to fight.
In my mind I can see Shadow powering up as his final attempt to destroy the planet but Sonic runs at him last moment in an act of desperation which in turn transforms them both.
1:07 did you notice the knuckles choa
OH MY GOD???? I THOUGHT HE WAS JUST A RED CHAO I DIDN'T SEE THE CRESCENT
TYSM FOR POINTING THIS OUT IM SO HAPPY THEY DID THAT
@DolphynsDeck same this movie is going to be peak
Who else believes Silver is BOUND to be in the post credits!
He'd probably show up the same way Tails did - through a portal!
I have a theory that if they can’t do biolizard then they’ll use chaos idk why or how but yes mostly because it be easy to animate a CGI water monster then a giant lizard monster
Weirdly enough, I feel all the water particles, ripples, and shaders would be very complex. I have to agree though, I could see them using Chaos instead because he hasn't appeared in any form (plus it can tie into the master emerald).
Really funny how Iblis showed up in Movie-Canon before either of them, huh?
Honestly I think shadow might just be the main villain I don’t think he will turn good I think at the end of the movie Gerald shadow and eggman are all going to die but shadow in the trailers looks liek really the draw the main thing the one who’s going to affect the whole movie Gerald and eggman Just seem like the behind the scenes controllers
Knowing Nintendo, sega probably had to pay a ton of money just to say “pika pika” in the movie lol
i don’t quite understand the change in title, at first you said it’s gonna show the worst version of him, but now he’s gonna apparently be the biggest threat?
Worst as in "most evil" I assume.
@ that could explain it
AshyMuted is right. English is hard!
love defending my sonic characters
AS YOU SHOULD
EVERYONE IS VALID
SPOILER ALERT: in the post credit sonic does a dab, and then Jonesy from Fortnite hopped out of a ring portal and then he says come on sonic let’s Fortnite battle Royale with the default dance riff at the end of the movie when we fade to black
Shadow, lemme borrow your gun…
Sega hire this man!
Neat commentary.
Thanks! I find that I always obsess over niche aspects of media before they release and it 'corrects' my understanding of it. Half the fun is the speculation imo.
@DolphynsDeck I appreciate that and respect that.
hey dolphyn, so they did nerfed knuckles in the movie?
nah not really. I've just been saying I hope they do him justice in a full fight.
@@DolphynsDeck Yeah I hope it's not just that one scene where they "fight" and hope it's a little more.
Shadow is way too OP
10:59
Jim carrey carrying this movie 🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥
Maybe the first one.. the cast in 3 is top notch talent! Everyone else is so strong Jim actually had to clone himself
Nah
You were salty about knuckles in base getting whooped though
Your mom was salty when I left before she woke up