Interesting how the virgin birth of a Devine being brought an evil or chaotic entity while the virgin birth of a human brought forth Jesus who represented the ultimate good
@@HonerableG if one accepts the trinitarian doctrine derived from the single gospel of John. The others have different visions of Christ discernable from their contexts when considered in their own .
@@bunnystick lmao, I mean basically, not like he actually knew what he was doing when he created he didn’t have understanding of what true light actually was, just true shadow
I mean also kind of consider what kind unconditionally loving god, truly unconditionally loving no matter what, would condemn his favorite and most beautiful son to hellfire over a disagreement? Also if he was all knowing like the Bible claims, wouldn’t he know how to stop something as overthrowing him with as least bloodshed as possible because he is also apparently all loving? But he has mood swings? How are we to not see
Because there’s an actual reason for it you just don’t want to hear it Edit: to those who expect me to explain myself, up until you proved how immature and unwilling you were to listen to reason, I wanted to tell you. It’s a shame it would profit me more to throw pearls before swine… or pay my taxes
@@TragicPumpkin888 I mean he is the Creator... he can do whatever he wants to his creation... like if I create a lego house, i can break it too.. the lego pieces can't question me..
@@jeppy4021 yeah, but the claim that he is good or "omniscient with a greater purpose" is terrible, yeah, if he exists, YHWH is a terrible monster, lovecraftian even, and if so his love is distorted and not human, not the same love we have for eachother, and shouldn't be the same word. or he could care less about us, like if he was the dev of a simulation.
It's nice to know that even back then there were people that read the actions of Yahweh in scripture and thought "This is clearly some kind of fucking demon."
For other cultures, your gods were always demons and vice versa. Today we use the term "demon" which is also the root for divine in other cultures and even our words. The problem with moralism is that it is just the same problem moved up: Morality as a god over gods, somehow morality have to be over gods, and that makes no theological or philosophical sense, as Gods proscribe morality. We criticize YHWH on moral grounds, and yet we also want to be moral relativists... sorry, but we cannot have both.
Either that, or God bumped His head so hard that He switched from "follow me or die" to "everyone gets forgiveness, I love all my children" EDIT: This is not a biblical analysis, just a dumb joke.
the best reteilling of a proven forgery from the second century you mean?> youre brain dead you cant even look up the origins of what your told and just believe in whatever echo chamber allows you too vindicate your false beliefs.
@@TheRezrois the Monad omniscient? I would understand it more like the Monad being like fundamental forces and particles (immanent) and beyond the material (transcendent). Not sure about the Monad's 'morality' though. But the Monad is, unanimously, unknowable so there's no right answer
There is the a variant that say that Sophie hide the Demiurge in a sphere of clouds, after put in him the devine spark. The Demiurge later awake, find that he is alone and is ignorant of his origin, so he believe hes the one true god.
then creates the archons which r the planets, the sun is the demiurge and it has plasma within it which plasma is conscious in its own way and is above ours. (not much known on plasma still but is is fascinating what we know so far) there are clouds called kordylewski clouds which are plasma clouds that circle the sun and share earths orbit and are also conscious.
Yes, this is one of the main differences between the two major Gnostic groups, the Valentinians and Sethians. Valentinians (created and led by Valentinus) thought Yaldy, aka. the Demiurge, aka. the Old Testament God, was simply ignorant and alone. The Sethians follow the story of the video.
@@adyntalleyNo, the sun is merely the heart of our solar system, with the brain (the real sun which powers our visible sun) hidden behind it. All the ancient symbolism reveals this being as the orion nebula, a great dust cloud which fashions the stars and planets. It is the only begotten son of the father (son of the mind).
“Yaldabaoth found this hilarious” is a much better reasoning for the weirdness of the Bible than “God so willed it.” Why did he will it? He thought it was funny.
Not really. Doesn't matter if God willed everything to die in the most horrific way or for the entire universe to turn into one big cheeseburger, if God willed it then who are we to protest.
@@carlosrios3215 no lol 😂 the creations of a creator have 0 right to protest anything that the creator decided to do. Your entire existence is a gift and is sustained by him so don't complain even if he destroyed the universe with you in it.
@@hazzy77 my entire existence is a conflagration of chemicals and gases, and coded information. However if you believe a creator has every right to destroy their creation regardless of reason, I actually feel sympathy towards you. Nothing in this life is certain and certainly not some crazed God that feels humanistic emotions such as jealousy and anger.
@@carlosrios3215 you only think he's crazed because you're conflagration of chemicals and gases have resulted in you experiencing a life devoid of meaning and satisfaction. Your morals and understanding of everything is what you decide and not what the being responsible for your existence decided. Do you speak of God when you have no way to disprove he exists? Take your science and mathematics and create something from nothing and then I'll believe you 0+0+0+0+0... Will never give you 1.
Honestly that sounds just sad Deity girl tried to have a child of her own because thats what all deities were supposed to and because she was lonely as she didnt have a partner Then the child naturally comes out weird because it was created differently from others, so it is thrown away The child, lonely but exceptionally powerful creates a whole universe of their own and thinking it is the only thing in existence believes itself to be the only deity out there Of course, being a child with no moral guidance and not understanding how to treat others because it had no one, because it was literally thrown away, things go south with their creation very quickly Then the child's mother regretting what she did either due to true guilt or because it turns out her child is too powerful, tries to go there to talk The child, alone in their entire existence, doesnt want to let the mother go and traps her Naturally, the other gods try to intervene, but that only upsets the child further thinking they want to steal the mother away, so it lashes out and attacks them Surprisingly, the child wins because it is just that powerful, like the Broly of the gods, no wonder it thinks of itself as the true god This results in the child, being a greedy kid, taking away some of the divinity of the deities who tried to strike it down and using it for their own creation Of course the gods wouldnt let that slide and want to end the child's reign of terror over their own universe, so they send in a "saviour" This saviour brings magical knowledge that allows the beings trapped within the child's universe to flee it, hoping to free the mother that way These beings do so, because they see the child god as nothing more than a sadistic tyrant and rightfully so But to the child all that is happening is that the other deities attacked it again, not only wanting to steal the mother but also it's toys/pets that they made, which only make the child more heartbroken and furious And having never been taught how to deal with these feelings, it continues to lash out against it's creation and the other gods while having their mentality that they're the only god that matters reinforced by the other deities's actions, their cruelty towards it and use of subterfuge to steal what is theirs instead of fighting them like they attempted last time Thus the child's cruelty and desperation increases, even though all it ever wanted was to be accepted and loved like any child without their parent Its a tragedy
It also depends on the version your hearing of the story. In most versions I’ve heard it’s not that Sophia didn’t have a partner but rather she tried to procreate without her partner as a way to sorta copy the True god which she is only an emanation of. That breaking of the “law” is what causes he child to be born corrupted and twisted
@@nerdatron817Abrahamic Satan couldve just been another retelling of this story if you imagine Satan as yaldabaoth cast down to hell (our material realm)
Heresy is such a funny term that doesn't even mean anything beyond a vague label that's attached onto whoever disagrees with the Church. The majority of protestants today have been considered heretics a few centuries ago, yet they're accepted today. All of the dozens of denominations that exist around the world? Heretics as well.
@@luxj.9451"closer to the original message" according to who? Enlightenment philosophy really got every mf thinking their own opinions are actually worth a damn.
Yeah, they nailed that to the cross, then someone else tried to make sense of that. …. And it still don’t make sense. Not making any sense means it must make senc😂
The God Yaweh were an idiot through most of the bible and had to restart the earth multiple times. The Gnostics atleast noticed the inconsistencies, and tried to explain them. Other Abrahamic religions go into detail of how God and Demons work, were Christianity fail to explain the origin of Angels and the difference between Satan and Lucifer. Most of peoples shared interpretation comes from dantes inferno.
@@Xxmalytboyxd I’d be proud of Cain, he put two and two together, and was willing to kill his fleshly ties just to be loved by god, some would say the heart of David comes from his line
A lot more surface level than most Gnostic teachers on the Tube, but a lot less sedating. I was actually able to follow the entire video without falling asleep to a monotonous voice. Subbed.
So the reason gnosticism is considered evil is essentially because it completely flips the script, and attributes the actions of God, a fully divine entity, to the first non divine entity
The reason its evil is because it has no backing or basis. Its just the Bible corrupted by either paganism or Platonism. There are many inherent fallacies to gnosticism, including the idea that Truth is hidden and secret, and you must be initiated into the Truth. Truth is Jesus Christ, and the only initiation to His Truth is faith and baptism.
No, gnosticism is evil because it says the universe is evil. It rejects the humanity of Christ because it hates the flesh. It's where the idea that our bodies are prisons for our souls comes from, which is why it's hilarious that Atheists seem to find it so appealing.
Not entirely, it is still christian in it's core, so the gnostics think that God who created the world is evil, but there is a good god out there (outside of the corrupted universe we exist in) who wants to save us and he send Jesus to make that happen. It's was the fact that they wanted to seperate tha all good christian god from the clearly not good jewish/old testament god that makes them heretics.
@@christopherramirez7804 there are many Gnostic sects that believed different interpretations of the story, and it’s possible he either found a differently translated book of Enoch or used another retelling separate from the book
Adam is actually symbolic of God, he goes to sleep. It is not good for God or Adam to be alone, so he rests on the 7th day, and creates all of us. Eve was taken out of Adam, but the Bible never says he woke up. Lillith, his first wife, was NOT taken out of Adam and is rebellious. So when the dream ends, and the sleeping god awakens, the children of Eve are saved, being rooted in the dreaming God, but the children of lillith, the tares, were never real to begin with. They are just nightmares. At the highest level of reality, there is only God.
@@skeleex In Sethian "Apocryphon of John", it's Barbelo as Pronoia (first Sethian's Aeon) that warned Noah about The Flood, then instructed him to build the "Ark" but as a guise with Monad guided him and his descendants by hiding him in the stars and clouds beneath invisible realms (It's implied to be hid Noah and his "unshakeable race" human descendants among constellations below Pleroma and Kenoma) In Sethian "Hypostasis of The Archons", it was Sabaoth (one of sons of Yaldabaoth that was redeemed, elevated and enthroned by Sophia) that warned Noah about The Flood, Noah build The Ark by his own intuition but his wife tried to sabotaged him In Sethian "Apocalypse of Adam", it was Yaldabaoth that warned (so basically tricking the whole thing) to Noah about The Flood
I like how Yaldaboath isn’t pure evil like most malevolent beings, he’s just a bored asshole with mommy issues. The fact he’s the one who made humanity actually makes way more sense than a ultra benevolent god doing it
@@Sarez____-it4ks The entire point is that neither yaldabaoth or the monad endorsed these creations of humanity but because either one taking action against humanity for it would result in both sides losing, humanity was granted free reign over its own hell
@BravoRox Beats me. The bible says she just appears and is never heard of again. Whomever wrote this, forgot to elaborate as if they wanted to tell the REST of the story.
She lacked wisdom of the consequence but it was her wisdom that led her try to copy the monad as she herself was an emanation of him. Which is likely why the demiurge is so "powerful".
@@Ronin.97 inteligence, knowledge, skill... there are many words that could describe what she did. Wisdom is not the right word for that. Wisdom is the thing telling you not to do that.
This is like blaming Lord of the Rings for the Dwarves being generic when its where our conception of dwarves come from. In other words, its not Religion that is like a story from Zelda. It is Zelda that is like a religious story. :D
This was just fantastic. Yaldabaoth being motivated by the "wouldn't it be funny if" principle is an entirely accurate and hilarious observation. Gnosticism has been the only Abrahamic mythology that's ever made any kind of sense to me because of how much effort was put into fitting the existing Tanakh into the perspective of the kind of new agey hippy spiritualist that Jesus is usually interpreted/depicted as. History's winners in this case just ignored all the massive plot holes, but Gnostics actually did the work and expanded the lore to have everything make sense to people who like, y'know, aren't morally reprehensible. It's always been fascinating to me, but it's of course dense and there is no canon and it's way more concerned with spirituality than myth making and narrative so it can be hard to parse. This animation really, REALLY does a great job putting all of that together in a really fun way. I really hope you do more of this, in particular I'm looking forward to the Gospel of Judas.
@@music79075A plan that involved needless suffering? The drowning of thousands? Baby murder? Killing 30 kids for calling a prophet bald? That plan? Because that’s a plan I’d make if I were God and -as we’ve established- I’m morally reprehensible
@@sosa9694 Its entirely contrary to the bible, in the gnostic genesis story Satan the serpent is the good guy freeing man from the evil demiurge which is Yahweh, Gnosticism is obliviously satanic.
This is actually lowkey makes a good series, if not an actual gnostic series, then a different series but with the same storyline. Theres too many plotwists, plus great charachter development!
Christianity: Q: Why does God allow bad things to happen? A: Because he has a plan for everything OR because of Original SIn OR because the Devil created them Gnosticism: Q: Why does Yaldabeoth allow bad things to happen? A: For shits and giggles
@@KingOfSciliy regarding the three answers: if he has a plan for everything, knows past present and future, free will does not exist (just the illusion), or he only knows all the possibilities, and is manipulating everything so it happens as he wants, he knows what "each and everything is going to lead to" and allows it to happen makes so it happen. YHWH created the natural order, he created the nature of things, he created the nature of human beings, he created the rules. so sin exists because god made them exist, anyone could argument that "hell is the separation from god", and god if existent, was the one that created both of these concepts, as there is no higher nature, he does not have "rules to follow" or "a boss". so he created sin, he created the concept of separation from himself(it is not something that pre-exists him). the same applies to "the devil" god allowed him to exist, god allowed him to corrupt people, god created hell, god created suffering in one way or another because he created everything. so either he is apathetic, and sometimes intervenes because its fun(like a game/simulation developer) or he is indeed all seeing/all powerful all the time, and is just plain humanly evil, in the sense that the logic he created also reveals himself as evil (since he created math and the rules of the universe).
@@MigWithThe second argument is pretty bad, because God follows his own rules, the one that created the rules, followed them when he incarnated as Jesus, the world hell is a mistranslation of multiple words, Hades, Gehenna, Tartarus, Sheol, and for the most part it hell refers to grave, which is the opposite of life and the dead are located, while the other times it refers to fire or in the cause of Tartarus, where the fallen angels are imprisoned, which Tartarus is a word only used one time. Separation of life is dead, basically if life exists is the opposite is death. That is why the concept of separation from life, being God in this case cause he is the author of life, will lead to death. Basically if something exists, then the opposite is posible, it depends which one comes first. If goodness exists, then evil will come to exist, because it is the opposite, the same with energy, heat, life, love, etc. This will depend on which come first and can exist by itself, although people go to far and create the extreme opposite of one thing, the concept of all consuming fire does exist in the Bible, but the concept of hell as we know it culturally, which was conflated with the lake of fire from revelation, doesn’t exist within the text, unless you include the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, but since it’s a story to teach a lesson, it should be taken as a literal place.
Gnostics don’t all believe one thing. Maybe a few general agreements about knowledge, know thy self for example. But like Buddha teaches, you/each person has to taste the strawberry and it may taste different to each person but they now each know.
so youre a buddhist not a gnostic or a christian then genius. gnosticism is based on a second century forgery this isnt even up for debate the evidence that this is a fact is overwhelming and yes all gnostics believed in the same thing quit using sophistry to try too over complicate the subject. i got A LESSON too its about shit and shinola which do you think i smell when you talk about buddha.
yes but we know the taste of the strawberry is the same it’s the experience and context of that taste that creates the sensation and “knowledge” of the flavor
Holy crap! It’s about time a video like this came along, and finally put all the missing pieces of early Genesis together in an easy to understand way. Thank you, thank you, and thank you my friend! You now have a new internet fan for life in me! 🙏
His real name is Yhwh El DA (African word for Serpent) BA (Egyptian Soul that persists after death) Thoth. It's one of those combined freemason words like Jahbulon.
Thank you I been following up on the gnostic religion for a while and this video sums up everything I researched. I love the animation and the narrative you put together with Enoch. Please make more thank you.
He is wrong a lot bout lot of things do your own research. Enoch is the one that warns Noah about the flood not the lion snake. Read the book of enoch and rewatch this.
@@christopherramirez7804 He got a looot of details wrong as the video like making compilations of different groups' Gnostic texts that have difference in denominational level, Sethian and Valentinian texts are already different in many points, let alone including other Christian Gnostic groups too, let even alone of fullblown non-Christian gnostic religions akin to Mandaeism and Manichaeism, which have a lot of false accusations surrounding these two aforementioned separate religions
I tried to understand all this by reading the wikipedia page on the Gnostic origin story. It was so convoluted and confusing that I went crosseyed and got bored. The straight forward conciseness of this telling makes it all make more sense. Great job!
It is actually simple: Gnostic were antisemitic, so they refused to recognize God of Jews, inventing Uber-God above him and claiming that Jesus come to overthrow God of Rainbow. Even when Jesus himself said that he is a Communist.
Ehh, that’s what happens when most of your appropriate texts get burned for being too heretical in the eyes of the Church. Most older stuff becomes really confusing when most of the source material gets burned by people and then bastardized.
@@JohnGrandline who is this developer number 1 and what did he develope? Why is he snake? He never credits others who work on creations? Sounds like my old boss. He also had sunshine face. Then smash you from behind. Puli puli.
Damn the “Ummmm Actually The Good guys are actually the Bad guys and the Bad guys are secretly good and misunderstand” edge lord shit runs deep in history
Committing global genocide via flood seems like the edgier thing here. Definitely not something a "good guy" would consider. Also, the gnostics didn't think Satan was the good guy either. Literally just that the OT god was an imposter. So no.
This stuff developed around the same time as Christianity or the 2nd Temple of Judiaism (some time). So, its not as simple as that. One could argue that most -isms get formed as a counter to the stagnant old ways.
@@usethis4511 For me, the thought of god being evil just makes it interesting enough for me to actually listen. That may be why it tends to have that effect.
@@usethis4511 Neh. Kabbalah interpretation make most sense. In it God is separate from creation, because his perfect nature would undone it. As such he is present through avatars, what not individually but collectively represent him. Those are so called Ophanim aka Thrones (what Christians call Seraphim). That include trinity of Archangels: King of Angels aka Voice of God Metatron (the guy on emerald throne), King of Sheol Sandelphon aka Abaddon, who rule over Living Beasts (what Christians call Cherubim), who is also boss of Satan. And the Arbiter, Archangel of Wisdom Raziel Helel aka The Christ. Anyway. Angels were banned from entering into domain of the creation, because creation fallow laws of nature and not the morality. But access was not blocked, because God in fact wanted angels to have free will and they needed option for disobedience. With taking all consequences of abandoning divine protection to hypocritically blame God for that. Archangel of Justice Samael didn't get the memo and was outraged when spirits fallow Azazel (First Fallen, completely irrelevant Goat Angel of Rage) and called for ban on they return. Only to find out that Raziel descend on Earth to bring them back. He accused him of fall and was trying sabotage his work, only to find out that Raziel is personification of the God. As agreement Samael was replaced on duty by Michael and become angel of death, with access to material realm. From that point he become known as Satanael. God's Prosecutor. With this role he can seduce evil people to destroy themselves and prove his point. Important note! Satan is not and never was fallen! In bible straight fallow orders from God (seriously, did anyone read Job, where he randomly show up in heaven?). Prophecy of Revelation reveal that it would fall on the day of the end, ending this dispute. Until that, he is technically correct as humanity in fact suck.
This is awesome. I've been researching the Gnostic myths per the Nag Hammadi Library and other sources for a project myself. It's a big picture that is tricky to follow at times, so I found your 'simple' approach refreshing and helpful. Looking forward to more. Cheers.
@@skunko1871 Many times, claims that Yahweh is evil are based on a lack of understanding of the Old Testament/Bible. You cannot support an absurd polytheistic claim about the universe simply because you misunderstand and believe that God in the Old Testament was evil. That, in no way, serves as a rationale for Gnosticism on its own.
@@squidthesquid1233 Well, i feel like it's hard to misinterpret actual divine orders to commit genocide and to take in neighboring countries as slaves as anything but evil along with a multitude of other things. Regardless of canon or apocraphal Christianity, both come from polytheism btw
I'm not a gnostic by any stretch but it's a compelling explanation between the God of the old testament and what Jesus preached It's uncanny when Christians try to say there's no contradiction there, and talk about God wiping out an entire city of people, or flooding the earth to kill everyone except one family, as being totally consistent with loving God that believes in compassion and forgiveness as prime virtues. I mean, they definitely *can* explain it, but their explanations are really weird and smell of rationalisation.
Jesus was a Platonist. Resurrection was the Eleusinian Mystery Ritual. The forbidden fruit was the poison that gave you a near death experience. It lasted three days.
And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgement, than for that city. Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person's enemies will be those of his own household. Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad. Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. Jesus was a Jew, a practicing one. He got circumcised, went to synagogues and studied the Torah that was passed down through Moses. He frequently quoted the prophets that hold YHWH monotheism fervently (Isaiah, Jeremiah, Jonah etc.) to describe himself. Trying to cut Jesus from his Jewish roots is entirely nonsensical; might as well throw it all away and become a pagan neoplatonist
I was thinking about this yesterday. If you had a single Cosmic consciousness, it's first act could plausibly be to create other conscious beings. The Consciousness might partition part of its Self like the way a cell (the basic unit of Physical Life) partitions or buds off new cells. The Gnostic concept of the Monad that gives rise to Aeons (and so on) seems to be a Metaphysical analogy for a process of Conscious partition and/or replication.
A lot of christians seem defensive and talk about how their god is not that bad or that we haven't really read the bible, calling different interpretations heresy and so on. Fundamentally these are stories that people are free to interpret and believe as they like, and for some reason this really upsets them
@@kwamesmith3214 I feel like to a degree, Christ is even *more* exalted in Gnosticism than normal Christianity. I mean, he’s his own god, not actually the child of an evil god-serpent. This means that Christ is more free, majestic and independent as a god than the version of him that is stuck onto the cross for the appeasement of Yaldabaoth.
Basically the gnostic lore is attempting to make sense why Christians insist the genocidal god in the old testament is the same god in the new testament who is also Jesus.
In 'Researches into the Phenomenology of the Self', C. G. Jung writes "According to Irenaeus, the Gnostics held that Sophia represents the world of the Ogdoad, which is a double quaternity. In the form of a dove, she descended into the water and begot Saturn , who is identical with Yahweh." Yaldabaoth did not create the universe, but only 'planets' in our solar system.
Makes more sense than the mainstream interpretation of the Bible in which people perform mental acrobatics to make the demonic and hateful deity Yahweh out to be benevolent somehow. The story of Jacob and Esau makes way more sense when you realize Yahweh respects chutzpah, boldness and sneakiness above all else. And yeah, he protects Cain rather than punishing him, so it would make sense that he actually gets a kick out of watching people kill each other, especially considering what happens in the Book of Joshua. Yahweh orders the Israelites to carry out like a dozen different genocides. Crazy to think about how so many people worship Yaldabeoth, just under a different name. One of the main reasons I was an atheist as a little kid rather than believing what I was told was how little sense it made for Jesus and Yahweh to be parts of the same triune God when Jesus was quite peaceful while Yahweh is a war god and god of storms and metallurgy who drowns mankind.
Two things need to be noted. "Gnostic" is a term coined in 17th. Adherents considered themselves Christians, and gnosticism was typically taught as an "inner school" of Christianity, something for a select few and not regular members. There were MANY schools of gnostic thought, each with their own number of aeons, their names for the demiurge, their own philosophy on the nature of sin and salvation, and their own take on how Logos and Sophia conspired to restore the divine sparks trapped in the material world, and so on. It was NOT as monolithic as the video makes it out to be.
Uh oh…dude I’m making an anime of synchronization religions and mythologies, you telling me that makes me scared a little bit. 😭😭 like how tf are you more complicated than Hinduism?
@@FireFoxGaming_ Christian syncretism with other pagan religions is *WILD* , dude. Santeria, for one, then Christianity mixing with Greek/Slavic/Nordic/Germanic etc. mythologies... The rabbit hole never ends. May I assume that you are Hindi?
@@tulbanhawk ehhh yes and no, I’m more of an Omnist pagan ^^ thank you so much for asking, I’ve been writing and researching for years now, how their magic systems works, how it all ties together, ect. I would really hope this show is something to learn from and have fun with. Of course the story will be separate from the myths and beliefs meaning I won’t have to make the anime like blood of Zeus or Saint Saiya for example. You can also imagine how the “end of the world” is gonna turn out. 🤣 I’m also adding Islam, Zoroastrianism, Athenian, Judaism, ans many other monotheistic faiths with polytheistic faiths and shamanism, hell even heresies. so more like just- *All* of it.
Hey bro I love your videos and I want to know more about Gnosticism, even though I'm a Catholic I still like to learn about other faiths and Christian branches. These videos are very interesting, I love them, keep it up.
see, this is why im gnostic. A: its badass and B: it makes a hell of a lot more sense then "god did it because he loved us" or "because we were to wicked". it also explains a lot about the evil in the world, cuz there aint no way a kind, loving god would allow all this, but a evil, lesser god who just uses us for his amusement? makes sense to me! (would also explain our fascination with torturing npcs in games like the sims and people playground, just a thought lol.)
Been reading through Genesis for study. There are some insane moments in the Bible, that feel like a haphazardly cut together story with huge swaths of stuff just kinda left out. When the snake is mentioned for the first time. Its done in such a way as if it and eve had known each other for years already with no explination or deeper dive into that. The craziest thing about the gnostics is how, having read a lot of the bible, this actually perfectly fills in the blanks, even explaining the big bang and the universe before earth, something the bible kinda leaes out in genesis.
Sometimes amidst a mountain of bullshit you will find a diamond... this comment is that diamond especially the last part so simple but so beautiful "just be kind and spread love" AFUCKINMEN BROTHER!!
@@johnrockyryanI agree with the second half of the OP comment🎉🎉… not the first, I fast more often than I eat and I stay away from sunlight due to immune deficiency😂😂… at least that’s what I think happened to my comatose body
@@tamerlane9889 Blaphemous means "sacrilegious against God or sacred things; profane." While heretical can mean "believing in or practicing religious heresy." which is a belief contrary to a certain belief, in this case with Christianity.
Gnosticism is so fascinating. A lot of Gnostics also practiced many “controversial” practices such as equality, abstinence, anti-classism, individualism, etc. The Church saw them as a threat.
Rather bogus claim considering Gnostics were much more elitist than conventional Christians; elitism is in fact built into Gnostic cosmology. Also, the gospel of Thomas.
@@alternateperson6600 Depends on the sect, homie. “Gnosticism” is an amalgamation of different religions and faiths that were labeled as “Gnostics”, but we genuinely do not know because many records and documentations were burned and lost, or confiscated. While it is true one of the principles of “Gnosticism” is “knowledge, authority, and power to the few,” no one knows where that tenant originated from. Many other “Gnostics” however believed that any individual can achieve self-enlightenment. One excellent example of a *true, genuine* sect of Gnostics is Mandaeism, one of the few sects of Gnostic-Christianity that still exists today, but their numbers are scarce. I highly recommend reading and researching them because it’s fascinating and they’re not at all demonic, just misunderstood. ReligionforBreakfast and other theology channels made excellent videos explaining them.
@@alternateperson6600wanna try and say that the largest denomination of current and past times with their massive gilded buildings and rituals who believe that one human man per generation can be the link to the divine isn’t full of elitism Aight boss 👍🤣
Time is a tricky part of all of this. You have to keep in mind that time here probably doesn't matter outside of this terrible place. This demiurge fella has to keep things linear here, but this linear time is easy to destroy. This sick enemy is already destroyed, but we are stuck in a linear world that has to play out. What seems like an eternity was probably instantaneous to the monad. I'm not worried one bit. I'm already witnessing the false thrones slowly destroying themselves. This actually happened in an instant. We can't forget that time itself is a part of this.
Adam is actually symbolic of God, he goes to sleep. It is not good for God or Adam to be alone, so he rests on the 7th day, and creates all of us. Eve was taken out of Adam, but the Bible never says he woke up. Lillith, his first wife, was NOT taken out of Adam and is rebellious. So when the dream ends, and the sleeping god awakens, the children of Eve are saved, being rooted in the dreaming God, but the children of lillith, the tares, were never real to begin with. They are just nightmares. At the highest level of reality, there is only God.
Well there was also a church thru built around the time of 1000-1200AD by the gnostics and basically was a big suicidal cult. Christians did not like people killing themselves and wanted to prevent cult from spreading sp they killed off the cult
It makes more sense than modern chrstianity, god does a complete 180 between the new and old testaments, so it makes sense that the old would be about an evil god and the new about the true god.
@@ColesGingy How is he evil at all? Jesus is the Messiah of the Jewish faith fulfilling over 300 OT prophecies regarding YHWH and the savior. YHWH was never evil.
When it comes to Abraham and his descendants it was also the Pleroma who intervened on their behalf and not Yaldabaoth and his archons. And it was the Pleroma that blessed Abraham and his seeds and protected them from most of the attacks from the Archons.
Not reality, just your ego. You're weak, so you expect God to be weak. Do you really want God to wipe your ass for you all the time, or would you rather learn to grow up and be a full human? The Universe can be a really amazing place if you stop trying to control it all the time.
@@h.hickenanaduk8622 It seems you are a proponent of just having faith in Christ to be saved ( maybe I'm wrong ) ? But that belief is tantamount to expecting god to wipe your arse .
Actually...the serpent at the beginning at 0:10 seconds is ambracksis (spelling wrong) which is baphmit or satan. Or also know as Saturn's cube or the kabaal they walk around in the middle east is the same thing and is also in the entrance of trump tower. Who's part of Baphmit society. Amd the word MAGA is an old word for dark magic and deception...so I'm with you, I hope not to.
this is the most fascinating take on religion I've ever seen, and i cant believe it was written so long ago this is GENIOUS, it makes too much sense, best fanfic ever and I love how they explain Yaldabaoth, it feels so authentic please tell me more, you got a new sub to help you escape Yaldabaoth
It's good to know that this is the THIRD "edition" of Genesis... The SECOND edition is the one we are all used to... The ORIGINAL edition of Genesis was never written down and was only memorized and passed down...
@@4n0ngaming the core beliefs of gnosticism, such as christs esoteric teachings, the wickedness of the material world, the limit of the physical body and the suffering that channels through it were all reasons for my beliefs. I wasn't part of any particular sect, just a general gnostic. recently, I have made a realisation that made me value the idea that the monad is not any different from the demiurge due to the passiveness and free will he offers us, under the circumstances that he could save us all. the gospel of truth changed my views. it was a lot to take in, I've suffered and cried, but to say the least, god isn't all that benevolent. theology, especially christianity and its heresies are a huge interest of mine since I'm a writer that mostly focuses on religion, but also because of childhood ideas and the fact that I left orthodoxy so young. I have prayed before leaving gnosticism and I believe I have received an answer : to take a break.
@@AzukaTheGoat close enough, but I highly dislike genshin for its poor cultural representation and monotone storyline (opinion which may vary), but i appreciate the subtle gnostic themes. for now, I'm only a star rail player and I nearly screamed when I saw the aeons and their names and how they reference gnostic sects. i really wish they incorporated more aspects of gnosticism, it would make the story so pleasing for me
That story seems like reasonable people looking back at the bible and realizing that it was written from an abuser point of view and then trying to flip the story's pov Great vid
This is my first encounter with Gnostic tradition and it feels so much more "right" than the Christian story. I've often looked at religion as the 'devils' way to confuse and separate us. Its very clever actually and jives with the Gnostic story of the false god of this world.
I'm a Gnostic Priest and I discuss Gnosticism. I live and breath Gnostic Christianity. I also subbed to your channel. I can share more with you if you would like
Where can I find legit gnostics? I remember trying to find a gnostic church several years ago and found one in the us that was super far, didn't seem like they took gnosticism seriously and rarely held actual services
@@NTJV there's a few in the United States varying in theology and practices. There's a few meditation courses run by some Gnostic groups. I work with The Gnostic Catholic Union. There a collection of different Gnostic Philosophies groups and churches. They only use the term Catholic as in the Latin sense of Universal as there a Union of different Gnostic groups in alliance with one another. Most Gnostic groups start of or stay as private courses. Unfortunately because of the heavy persecution and genocide committed against the Gnostics. Gnostic Christianity has to rebuild itself. It however is now growing in popularity again thankfully. It's such a shame as at one stage Gnostic Christianity was the most popular and largest form of Christianity
Thank you for the support! I hope you enjoy the series I know there was some (obvious) artistic liberty taken when combining aspects of the various Gnostic Myths. I am curious about a couple of things since I began looking into the Gnostica Ecclesia a while back here's the questions I would ask: 1: Do you consider yourselves to be the "true" Christians or would you rather abandon that label? 2: Among the various churches I've seen none of you seem to have a bible or canon I'm curious as to why, I've seen a few point to the "Gnostic Bible," but that's just a collection of various Gnostic texts, mostly from Nag Hammadi? Basically would your groups be averse to compiling a bible for any reason? (Because I was compiling my own Gnostic Bible because someone asked me to.) 3: I assume for the most part that you don't take the Gnostic myths like the one shown in this video as true, but I am curious what exactly is the modern Gnostic's stance on Yahweh, is he evil, a lesser god, simply fiction, or something else entirely?
@@ParryMegistus my comments are getting censored now. Yaldabaoth is the ignorance and ego of self and lower state of conciousness. Read the Gospel of John in Greek I translated its complete diffrent to what they show the public. The Gnostic bible are Not the Gnostic writing's they have been majority edited. Get or read the Nag hammadi instead. Many blessings I hope this helps
Well, if a bad guy was running things, im pretty sure he would say hes the good guy and the enemies are bad. Its a logical conclusion of our religion shaped plights. God of the blind is a good title for such a thing.
Or maybe that humans are self-righteous? It is literally the same as illegal migrants protesting under parlament of Germany demanding social support and crying that government is evil for not doing its job (which is true because they should be immediately arrested and deported).
The title should be "Genesis, but without censorship". Good intro to Gnosticism anyway, very good for first timers trying to understand it, a bit too summarized at times maybe, but it's enough to get the idea and whoever is truly interested should have no problem diving deep into it 👍🏻🖤🏴☠️
Very surface level but informative nonetheless. The first 200 years of Christianity were an absolute wild west, and at one point the Gnostic interpretations of Christianity came quite close to becoming mainstream. The historical context of all this isn't just "a bunch of edgy trolls came together to write fan-fiction". Look up the books such as "The Gnostic Paul" by Elaine Pagels and the works of Bart Ehrman. There are a few historical mysteries that, if resolved, would definitely help us uncover which groups were correct.
Doesn’t pull away from the fact that an all Loving God cannot create a realm containing Evil because then he would have to know Evil, making him not All Loving
No they weren't. The people who knew Jesus personally, the eyewitnesses to the events, founded Christianity. Christians knew that Gnostics were BS because their Church came from the source. Also, Bart Ehrman is a hack who sews doubt into the authenticity of the Bible in his public writing ("Bible manuscripts are full of tons of variations!"), but basically admits their complete reliability in his scholarly writing ("The variants are mostly spelling, grammar, etc, and don't change any of the meaning whatsoever.").
Interesting how the virgin birth of a Devine being brought an evil or chaotic entity while the virgin birth of a human brought forth Jesus who represented the ultimate good
It’s because if Christ though. Which existed as a separate entity before humans as well
I think it's the twist we're being fed. Modern religion has us worshipping satan
are you guys gnostic? : ) im not, just curious
@Splatterbrain7 it's a start there are other forms aswell
@@HonerableG if one accepts the trinitarian doctrine derived from the single gospel of John. The others have different visions of Christ discernable from their contexts when considered in their own .
yaldabeoth sounds like he plays Sims
ur so close
We are sims, except this version of sims takes part of your higher self and traps it within the sims temporarily
LMFAO
Thought it sounded like a Lovecraft god.
@@bunnystick lmao, I mean basically, not like he actually knew what he was doing when he created he didn’t have understanding of what true light actually was, just true shadow
"Because He found it hilarious" is the best possible answer one can give to the question "why would a kind god do such a thing?"
I mean also kind of consider what kind unconditionally loving god, truly unconditionally loving no matter what, would condemn his favorite and most beautiful son to hellfire over a disagreement? Also if he was all knowing like the Bible claims, wouldn’t he know how to stop something as overthrowing him with as least bloodshed as possible because he is also apparently all loving? But he has mood swings? How are we to not see
Because there’s an actual reason for it you just don’t want to hear it
Edit: to those who expect me to explain myself, up until you proved how immature and unwilling you were to listen to reason, I wanted to tell you.
It’s a shame it would profit me more to throw pearls before swine… or pay my taxes
@@TragicPumpkin888 I mean he is the Creator... he can do whatever he wants to his creation... like if I create a lego house, i can break it too.. the lego pieces can't question me..
@@jeppy4021 yeah, but the claim that he is good or "omniscient with a greater purpose" is terrible, yeah, if he exists, YHWH is a terrible monster, lovecraftian even, and if so his love is distorted and not human, not the same love we have for eachother, and shouldn't be the same word. or he could care less about us, like if he was the dev of a simulation.
@@MigWith
Oh thank the void someone else gets it, the idea of a God being "Good" is just dumb
It's nice to know that even back then there were people that read the actions of Yahweh in scripture and thought "This is clearly some kind of fucking demon."
For other cultures, your gods were always demons and vice versa. Today we use the term "demon" which is also the root for divine in other cultures and even our words. The problem with moralism is that it is just the same problem moved up: Morality as a god over gods, somehow morality have to be over gods, and that makes no theological or philosophical sense, as Gods proscribe morality. We criticize YHWH on moral grounds, and yet we also want to be moral relativists... sorry, but we cannot have both.
Either that, or God bumped His head so hard that He switched from "follow me or die" to "everyone gets forgiveness, I love all my children"
EDIT: This is not a biblical analysis, just a dumb joke.
God lets bad things happen so if you love him through all the bad things, you will prosper.
@@The_Lutheran_Man How petty.
@@lunatricks huh
Dude, this has got to be the best retelling of Gnostic Genesis I have ever come across. I am so very looking forward to the next segment.
the best reteilling of a proven forgery from the second century you mean?>
youre brain dead you cant even look up the origins of what your told
and just believe in whatever echo chamber allows you too vindicate your false beliefs.
Even if it doesn't make sense. Why omniscient God would allow that to happen?
@@TheRezrobecause he thinks it’s funny
@@solarboyaaron4652 No. In Gnosticism Demiurg is basically fake. What is not a problem. But they conveniently ignore the actual God.
@@TheRezrois the Monad omniscient? I would understand it more like the Monad being like fundamental forces and particles (immanent) and beyond the material (transcendent). Not sure about the Monad's 'morality' though. But the Monad is, unanimously, unknowable so there's no right answer
There is the a variant that say that Sophie hide the Demiurge in a sphere of clouds, after put in him the devine spark. The Demiurge later awake, find that he is alone and is ignorant of his origin, so he believe hes the one true god.
then creates the archons which r the planets, the sun is the demiurge and it has plasma within it which plasma is conscious in its own way and is above ours. (not much known on plasma still but is is fascinating what we know so far) there are clouds called kordylewski clouds which are plasma clouds that circle the sun and share earths orbit and are also conscious.
@@adyntalley
In skyrim Aedra are planets and represent good while Daedra refused to transform to planets like Aedra and represent evil
Yes, this is one of the main differences between the two major Gnostic groups, the Valentinians and Sethians. Valentinians (created and led by Valentinus) thought Yaldy, aka. the Demiurge, aka. the Old Testament God, was simply ignorant and alone. The Sethians follow the story of the video.
it’s the orion nebula. Cloud in latin is nebula.
@@adyntalleyNo, the sun is merely the heart of our solar system, with the brain (the real sun which powers our visible sun) hidden behind it. All the ancient symbolism reveals this being as the orion nebula, a great dust cloud which fashions the stars and planets. It is the only begotten son of the father (son of the mind).
“Yaldabaoth found this hilarious” is a much better reasoning for the weirdness of the Bible than “God so willed it.” Why did he will it? He thought it was funny.
Not really. Doesn't matter if God willed everything to die in the most horrific way or for the entire universe to turn into one big cheeseburger, if God willed it then who are we to protest.
@@hazzy77 you're kidding, right?
@@carlosrios3215 no lol 😂 the creations of a creator have 0 right to protest anything that the creator decided to do. Your entire existence is a gift and is sustained by him so don't complain even if he destroyed the universe with you in it.
@@hazzy77 my entire existence is a conflagration of chemicals and gases, and coded information. However if you believe a creator has every right to destroy their creation regardless of reason, I actually feel sympathy towards you. Nothing in this life is certain and certainly not some crazed God that feels humanistic emotions such as jealousy and anger.
@@carlosrios3215 you only think he's crazed because you're conflagration of chemicals and gases have resulted in you experiencing a life devoid of meaning and satisfaction. Your morals and understanding of everything is what you decide and not what the being responsible for your existence decided. Do you speak of God when you have no way to disprove he exists? Take your science and mathematics and create something from nothing and then I'll believe you 0+0+0+0+0... Will never give you 1.
Honestly that sounds just sad
Deity girl tried to have a child of her own because thats what all deities were supposed to and because she was lonely as she didnt have a partner
Then the child naturally comes out weird because it was created differently from others, so it is thrown away
The child, lonely but exceptionally powerful creates a whole universe of their own and thinking it is the only thing in existence believes itself to be the only deity out there
Of course, being a child with no moral guidance and not understanding how to treat others because it had no one, because it was literally thrown away, things go south with their creation very quickly
Then the child's mother regretting what she did either due to true guilt or because it turns out her child is too powerful, tries to go there to talk
The child, alone in their entire existence, doesnt want to let the mother go and traps her
Naturally, the other gods try to intervene, but that only upsets the child further thinking they want to steal the mother away, so it lashes out and attacks them
Surprisingly, the child wins because it is just that powerful, like the Broly of the gods, no wonder it thinks of itself as the true god
This results in the child, being a greedy kid, taking away some of the divinity of the deities who tried to strike it down and using it for their own creation
Of course the gods wouldnt let that slide and want to end the child's reign of terror over their own universe, so they send in a "saviour"
This saviour brings magical knowledge that allows the beings trapped within the child's universe to flee it, hoping to free the mother that way
These beings do so, because they see the child god as nothing more than a sadistic tyrant and rightfully so
But to the child all that is happening is that the other deities attacked it again, not only wanting to steal the mother but also it's toys/pets that they made, which only make the child more heartbroken and furious
And having never been taught how to deal with these feelings, it continues to lash out against it's creation and the other gods while having their mentality that they're the only god that matters reinforced by the other deities's actions, their cruelty towards it and use of subterfuge to steal what is theirs instead of fighting them like they attempted last time
Thus the child's cruelty and desperation increases, even though all it ever wanted was to be accepted and loved like any child without their parent
Its a tragedy
You can make any story sympathetic if you see it through the lens of it’s narrator
Even tho it’s not real Christianity I still think this is a rlly interesting story, and ultimately just tragic.
Meanwhile Abrahamic Satan: "I'm edgy and want to rebel because the story needs conflict"
It also depends on the version your hearing of the story. In most versions I’ve heard it’s not that Sophia didn’t have a partner but rather she tried to procreate without her partner as a way to sorta copy the True god which she is only an emanation of. That breaking of the “law” is what causes he child to be born corrupted and twisted
@@nerdatron817Abrahamic Satan couldve just been another retelling of this story if you imagine Satan as yaldabaoth cast down to hell (our material realm)
Easily the coolest and most convuluted type of heresy
Gods = Aliens .
Heresy is such a funny term that doesn't even mean anything beyond a vague label that's attached onto whoever disagrees with the Church. The majority of protestants today have been considered heretics a few centuries ago, yet they're accepted today. All of the dozens of denominations that exist around the world? Heretics as well.
@@luxj.9451"closer to the original message" according to who? Enlightenment philosophy really got every mf thinking their own opinions are actually worth a damn.
Yeah, they nailed that to the cross, then someone else tried to make sense of that. …. And it still don’t make sense. Not making any sense means it must make senc😂
The God Yaweh were an idiot through most of the bible and had to restart the earth multiple times. The Gnostics atleast noticed the inconsistencies, and tried to explain them. Other Abrahamic religions go into detail of how God and Demons work, were Christianity fail to explain the origin of Angels and the difference between Satan and Lucifer. Most of peoples shared interpretation comes from dantes inferno.
YALDABAOTH BEING PROUD OF CAIN WAS NOT WHAT I EXPECTED THATS CRAZY XD😂😂😂😭😭😭😭
@@Xxmalytboyxd I’d be proud of Cain, he put two and two together, and was willing to kill his fleshly ties just to be loved by god, some would say the heart of David comes from his line
Game respecting game. Where game is vicious brutality, and cunning cruelty.
@Brxwn9 Isn't that what jealousy means? Wanting to be closer than anybody else?
@Brxwn9 if there is no us then there can be no jealousy
Canaanite jews love sacrificing children to their star god moloch
A lot more surface level than most Gnostic teachers on the Tube, but a lot less sedating. I was actually able to follow the entire video without falling asleep to a monotonous voice. Subbed.
LOLOL wow youre pathetic dont trip over your low bar
bet you claim to be a gnostic intellectual
truly an oxymoronic concept..
I think his goal was to explain Gnostic genesis and not not the specific nonsense.
So the reason gnosticism is considered evil is essentially because it completely flips the script, and attributes the actions of God, a fully divine entity, to the first non divine entity
The reason its evil is because it has no backing or basis. Its just the Bible corrupted by either paganism or Platonism. There are many inherent fallacies to gnosticism, including the idea that Truth is hidden and secret, and you must be initiated into the Truth. Truth is Jesus Christ, and the only initiation to His Truth is faith and baptism.
And it is no more or less the truth because of it, a realm created where Evil exists is inherently corrupted and malformed and so must its creator
gnostics somehow can’t realize that satan is the demiurge. “yalda baoth” and satan have the same exact stories for a reason
No, gnosticism is evil because it says the universe is evil. It rejects the humanity of Christ because it hates the flesh. It's where the idea that our bodies are prisons for our souls comes from, which is why it's hilarious that Atheists seem to find it so appealing.
Not entirely, it is still christian in it's core, so the gnostics think that God who created the world is evil, but there is a good god out there (outside of the corrupted universe we exist in) who wants to save us and he send Jesus to make that happen. It's was the fact that they wanted to seperate tha all good christian god from the clearly not good jewish/old testament god that makes them heretics.
Great summarization and simplification of some seriously esoteric and ancient lore, well done!
He is wrong he brings up the books of enoch.. but in the book of enoch, enoch is the one that warns Noah about the flood.. not the lion snake.
@@christopherramirez7804 there are many Gnostic sects that believed different interpretations of the story, and it’s possible he either found a differently translated book of Enoch or used another retelling separate from the book
Adam is actually symbolic of God, he goes to sleep. It is not good for God or Adam to be alone, so he rests on the 7th day, and creates all of us. Eve was taken out of Adam, but the Bible never says he woke up. Lillith, his first wife, was NOT taken out of Adam and is rebellious. So when the dream ends, and the sleeping god awakens, the children of Eve are saved, being rooted in the dreaming God, but the children of lillith, the tares, were never real to begin with. They are just nightmares. At the highest level of reality, there is only God.
@@skeleex In Sethian "Apocryphon of John", it's Barbelo as Pronoia (first Sethian's Aeon) that warned Noah about The Flood, then instructed him to build the "Ark" but as a guise with Monad guided him and his descendants by hiding him in the stars and clouds beneath invisible realms (It's implied to be hid Noah and his "unshakeable race" human descendants among constellations below Pleroma and Kenoma)
In Sethian "Hypostasis of The Archons", it was Sabaoth (one of sons of Yaldabaoth that was redeemed, elevated and enthroned by Sophia) that warned Noah about The Flood, Noah build The Ark by his own intuition but his wife tried to sabotaged him
In Sethian "Apocalypse of Adam", it was Yaldabaoth that warned (so basically tricking the whole thing) to Noah about The Flood
Wtf this is just Elden Ring Lore irl
You're right, elden ring came first, in fact the story of elden must have existed for thousands of years because this shit is everywhere
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Kinda lol ,elden Ring is based heavily on occult and gnostic mythologies
Understand this, ive seen or heard this in a past life so ye lol
@@allighast9714😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣👏🏼👏🏼
I like how Yaldaboath isn’t pure evil like most malevolent beings, he’s just a bored asshole with mommy issues. The fact he’s the one who made humanity actually makes way more sense than a ultra benevolent god doing it
If he has momm7y issues, did he create anime/h3nt41/d0uyj1n M1L'FS as an idea?
So to say "divine guidance"
@@JohnGrandline
Yaldaboath allows this because he finds it hilarious
Man if that was the lore of our universe I'd be pissed. Imagine your whole life being in control of some dumbass with mommy issues lol
@@Sarez____-it4ks The entire point is that neither yaldabaoth or the monad endorsed these creations of humanity but because either one taking action against humanity for it would result in both sides losing, humanity was granted free reign over its own hell
Yaldaboath is the orion nebula. The ancient symbolism shows this, and it is depicted time and time again in the old cathedrals of Europe.
Yaldabaoth: “As for why? Because it amuses me. 😈”
He does whatsoever pleases Him just as it is written either way it is a terrifying verse.
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 reference?
@@Kairos-Core XENOBLADE MENTIONED
zedposting will never end
Cain is such a gamer in this version.
i remember you
😂
And his wife...
@@razonywhere did she come from?
@BravoRox
Beats me. The bible says she just appears and is never heard of again. Whomever wrote this, forgot to elaborate as if they wanted to tell the REST of the story.
This is the most fun gnosticism creation myth video I've ever watched. Hats off to you sir
*Starving child holding out an empty bowl* more please.
yaldabaoth: lol. lmao.
This would make a sick ass mythology for a video game
Cruelty Squad
This IS the mythology of quite a number of video games. Xenogears is probably the most famous/infamous of those.
elden ring
It doesnt' really show any of this, but Legacy of Kain, starting with Soul Reaver was inspired by gnosticism.
Persona 5
The ironic thing about Sophia being wisdom is that her initial action is clearly the opposite of it.
Unless she's playing the long game...
She lacked wisdom of the consequence but it was her wisdom that led her try to copy the monad as she herself was an emanation of him. Which is likely why the demiurge is so "powerful".
@@Ronin.97 inteligence, knowledge, skill... there are many words that could describe what she did. Wisdom is not the right word for that. Wisdom is the thing telling you not to do that.
@@Ircy2012maybe she had become the symbol of wisdom after her entrance to the material world as she's the way for salvation from it
Religion just seems more and more like some plot line for the legend of Zelda
This is like blaming Lord of the Rings for the Dwarves being generic when its where our conception of dwarves come from.
In other words, its not Religion that is like a story from Zelda. It is Zelda that is like a religious story. :D
"I can only comprehend ancient history with muh videogames stories" pathetic consoomer
@@MrBenxablei bet you scroll through r/consoom for hours on end not realizing that you're just as pathetic
@@MrBenxable let people have fun 😥
@@MrBenxable loser
This was just fantastic. Yaldabaoth being motivated by the "wouldn't it be funny if" principle is an entirely accurate and hilarious observation. Gnosticism has been the only Abrahamic mythology that's ever made any kind of sense to me because of how much effort was put into fitting the existing Tanakh into the perspective of the kind of new agey hippy spiritualist that Jesus is usually interpreted/depicted as. History's winners in this case just ignored all the massive plot holes, but Gnostics actually did the work and expanded the lore to have everything make sense to people who like, y'know, aren't morally reprehensible. It's always been fascinating to me, but it's of course dense and there is no canon and it's way more concerned with spirituality than myth making and narrative so it can be hard to parse.
This animation really, REALLY does a great job putting all of that together in a really fun way. I really hope you do more of this, in particular I'm looking forward to the Gospel of Judas.
Loosely Abrahamic and more Koiné Greek,. Syrian and Anatolic with wisps of Babylonia
What plotholes?
Also the Jesus of the NT and the God of the OT are the same person just at different stages of their plan
@@music79075it’s your shadow pro-Atheist rhetoric that makes Christianity look bad
As someone who absolutely is morally reprehensible,this still makes more sense to me
@@music79075A plan that involved needless suffering? The drowning of thousands? Baby murder? Killing 30 kids for calling a prophet bald? That plan? Because that’s a plan I’d make if I were God and -as we’ve established- I’m morally reprehensible
Its funny how with this change in perspective all of the stories change meaning entirely and in many cases make more sense smth
I feel like it’s just more context to the Bible lol
No they don't
@@sosa9694 Its entirely contrary to the bible, in the gnostic genesis story Satan the serpent is the good guy freeing man from the evil demiurge which is Yahweh, Gnosticism is obliviously satanic.
@@jorgitoislamico4224 cry harder
@@Carlos-bz5oo Cope
This is actually lowkey makes a good series, if not an actual gnostic series, then a different series but with the same storyline. Theres too many plotwists, plus great charachter development!
Christianity:
Q: Why does God allow bad things to happen?
A: Because he has a plan for everything OR because of Original SIn OR because the Devil created them
Gnosticism:
Q: Why does Yaldabeoth allow bad things to happen?
A: For shits and giggles
@@KingOfSciliy
regarding the three answers:
if he has a plan for everything, knows past present and future, free will does not exist (just the illusion), or he only knows all the possibilities, and is manipulating everything so it happens as he wants, he knows what "each and everything is going to lead to" and allows it to happen makes so it happen.
YHWH created the natural order, he created the nature of things, he created the nature of human beings, he created the rules. so sin exists because god made them exist, anyone could argument that "hell is the separation from god", and god if existent, was the one that created both of these concepts, as there is no higher nature, he does not have "rules to follow" or "a boss". so he created sin, he created the concept of separation from himself(it is not something that pre-exists him). the same applies to "the devil" god allowed him to exist, god allowed him to corrupt people, god created hell, god created suffering in one way or another because he created everything.
so either he is apathetic, and sometimes intervenes because its fun(like a game/simulation developer) or he is indeed all seeing/all powerful all the time, and is just plain humanly evil, in the sense that the logic he created also reveals himself as evil (since he created math and the rules of the universe).
@@MigWithThe second argument is pretty bad, because God follows his own rules, the one that created the rules, followed them when he incarnated as Jesus, the world hell is a mistranslation of multiple words, Hades, Gehenna, Tartarus, Sheol, and for the most part it hell refers to grave, which is the opposite of life and the dead are located, while the other times it refers to fire or in the cause of Tartarus, where the fallen angels are imprisoned, which Tartarus is a word only used one time.
Separation of life is dead, basically if life exists is the opposite is death. That is why the concept of separation from life, being God in this case cause he is the author of life, will lead to death.
Basically if something exists, then the opposite is posible, it depends which one comes first. If goodness exists, then evil will come to exist, because it is the opposite, the same with energy, heat, life, love, etc.
This will depend on which come first and can exist by itself, although people go to far and create the extreme opposite of one thing, the concept of all consuming fire does exist in the Bible, but the concept of hell as we know it culturally, which was conflated with the lake of fire from revelation, doesn’t exist within the text, unless you include the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, but since it’s a story to teach a lesson, it should be taken as a literal place.
you should read Go Nagai's manga series like Devilman and Demon Lord Dante a lot of gnostic elements in those stories
Neon genesis was heavily influenced by Abrahamic and Gnostic ideas with philosophical approach
Sounds like somebody ate some mushrooms, got extremely high, hallucinated, read the Bible, then told everybody what they saw on the trip
Youre just describing The normal Christian bible
this makes way more sense than the usual version
Nah, Gnostics suck. Nothing remotely fun about anything they believe.
Lol
Gnostics don’t all believe one thing. Maybe a few general agreements about knowledge, know thy self for example.
But like Buddha teaches, you/each person has to taste the strawberry and it may taste different to each person but they now each know.
so youre a buddhist not a gnostic or a christian then genius.
gnosticism is based on a second century forgery
this isnt even up for debate the evidence that this is a fact is overwhelming and yes all gnostics believed in the same thing
quit using sophistry to try too over complicate the subject.
i got A LESSON too its about shit and shinola which do you think i smell when you talk about buddha.
yes but we know the taste of the strawberry is the same it’s the experience and context of that taste that creates the sensation and “knowledge” of the flavor
@@romanmay2867It's not the same
@@etruscanetwork exactly
ram dass would always say "don't worry about the method."
Yaldabaoth sounds like how I would act if I was God
you and most others
You are
@@fellowgoyimwhite7630 ALERTA DE GNOSE🚨🚨
@@fellowgoyimwhite7630f**kiin newagers...
as above so below
Holy crap! It’s about time a video like this came along, and finally put all the missing pieces of early Genesis together in an easy to understand way. Thank you, thank you, and thank you my friend! You now have a new internet fan for life in me! 🙏
"Yaldabaoth finds this event hilarious"
Some events in life don't leave the room for any justification other than the god up there must be a god tier level of a troller
His real name is Yhwh El DA (African word for Serpent) BA (Egyptian Soul that persists after death) Thoth. It's one of those combined freemason words like Jahbulon.
Thank you I been following up on the gnostic religion for a while and this video sums up everything I researched. I love the animation and the narrative you put together with Enoch. Please make more thank you.
He is wrong a lot bout lot of things do your own research. Enoch is the one that warns Noah about the flood not the lion snake. Read the book of enoch and rewatch this.
@@christopherramirez7804 He got a looot of details wrong as the video like making compilations of different groups' Gnostic texts that have difference in denominational level, Sethian and Valentinian texts are already different in many points, let alone including other Christian Gnostic groups too, let even alone of fullblown non-Christian gnostic religions akin to Mandaeism and Manichaeism, which have a lot of false accusations surrounding these two aforementioned separate religions
This is super interesting, can't wait for the next one
next DLC drops in a few centuries.
I tried to understand all this by reading the wikipedia page on the Gnostic origin story. It was so convoluted and confusing that I went crosseyed and got bored. The straight forward conciseness of this telling makes it all make more sense. Great job!
It is actually simple: Gnostic were antisemitic, so they refused to recognize God of Jews, inventing Uber-God above him and claiming that Jesus come to overthrow God of Rainbow. Even when Jesus himself said that he is a Communist.
Ehh, that’s what happens when most of your appropriate texts get burned for being too heretical in the eyes of the Church. Most older stuff becomes really confusing when most of the source material gets burned by people and then bastardized.
Norea being able to breathe fire is so funny to me
Norea: Do you know why i was called "the dragon of the west?" (Iroh quote from avatar)
''In their tongue she's dovahkiin: dragonborn!''
Yeah, dude. She comes out of nowhere, breathes fire then fucks up the archons and then ascends to celestia lmao
Kickass girl lol
Whaddup with lion-head-sunshine-worm... why he just can not be happy... he has such a huge appartment
Well stated
Actually its a snake just like dev1l is described as, both are also described as a lion,
coincidence?
@@JohnGrandline who is this developer number 1 and what did he develope? Why is he snake? He never credits others who work on creations? Sounds like my old boss. He also had sunshine face. Then smash you from behind. Puli puli.
Dude he’s just playing a more advanced version of Sims. Cmon do you not mess with the minecraft villagers?
Damn the “Ummmm Actually The Good guys are actually the Bad guys and the Bad guys are secretly good and misunderstand” edge lord shit runs deep in history
Committing global genocide via flood seems like the edgier thing here. Definitely not something a "good guy" would consider. Also, the gnostics didn't think Satan was the good guy either. Literally just that the OT god was an imposter. So no.
I mean christ is still the good guy so they aren't 1:1
YHWH is a war god. Christ is an agent of the supreme god, bringing peace. Christians mostly got it right, at peast in concept.
This stuff developed around the same time as Christianity or the 2nd Temple of Judiaism (some time). So, its not as simple as that. One could argue that most -isms get formed as a counter to the stagnant old ways.
This isn't reversing roles, as Christ in Gnosticism, like in all of Christianity, is still a good being, and his mission is no different.
Weirdly this is the first time religion has made sense to me…
yeah. i feel like so many dots have connected with this interpretation
@@stuckonaslide I think it’s just seeing god from a lense where he might be the bad guy it kinda makes more sense…I feel wrong for saying that lol
@@usethis4511 For me, the thought of god being evil just makes it interesting enough for me to actually listen. That
may be why it tends to have that effect.
Why is it weird? Gnostics tell you what you want to hear, not what you need to hear.
@@usethis4511 Neh. Kabbalah interpretation make most sense. In it God is separate from creation, because his perfect nature would undone it. As such he is present through avatars, what not individually but collectively represent him. Those are so called Ophanim aka Thrones (what Christians call Seraphim).
That include trinity of Archangels: King of Angels aka Voice of God Metatron (the guy on emerald throne), King of Sheol Sandelphon aka Abaddon, who rule over Living Beasts (what Christians call Cherubim), who is also boss of Satan. And the Arbiter, Archangel of Wisdom Raziel Helel aka The Christ.
Anyway. Angels were banned from entering into domain of the creation, because creation fallow laws of nature and not the morality. But access was not blocked, because God in fact wanted angels to have free will and they needed option for disobedience. With taking all consequences of abandoning divine protection to hypocritically blame God for that.
Archangel of Justice Samael didn't get the memo and was outraged when spirits fallow Azazel (First Fallen, completely irrelevant Goat Angel of Rage) and called for ban on they return. Only to find out that Raziel descend on Earth to bring them back. He accused him of fall and was trying sabotage his work, only to find out that Raziel is personification of the God.
As agreement Samael was replaced on duty by Michael and become angel of death, with access to material realm. From that point he become known as Satanael. God's Prosecutor. With this role he can seduce evil people to destroy themselves and prove his point.
Important note! Satan is not and never was fallen! In bible straight fallow orders from God (seriously, did anyone read Job, where he randomly show up in heaven?). Prophecy of Revelation reveal that it would fall on the day of the end, ending this dispute. Until that, he is technically correct as humanity in fact suck.
"The Whacky Adventures of Yaldebeoth" ABSOLUTELY needs to have talking vegetables
Get Cmanflip on that shit PRONTO!!!
This is awesome. I've been researching the Gnostic myths per the Nag Hammadi Library and other sources for a project myself. It's a big picture that is tricky to follow at times, so I found your 'simple' approach refreshing and helpful. Looking forward to more. Cheers.
I really enjoyed this, I never really understood wtf all the gnostic texts were talking about and this made it fun to watch and understandble, thanks
It's scary how much this makes way more sense out of the "approved" text.
Yep
No it doesnt lol
@@squidthesquid1233 why doesn't it?
@@skunko1871 Many times, claims that Yahweh is evil are based on a lack of understanding of the Old Testament/Bible. You cannot support an absurd polytheistic claim about the universe simply because you misunderstand and believe that God in the Old Testament was evil. That, in no way, serves as a rationale for Gnosticism on its own.
@@squidthesquid1233 Well, i feel like it's hard to misinterpret actual divine orders to commit genocide and to take in neighboring countries as slaves as anything but evil along with a multitude of other things. Regardless of canon or apocraphal Christianity, both come from polytheism btw
I'm not a gnostic by any stretch but it's a compelling explanation between the God of the old testament and what Jesus preached
It's uncanny when Christians try to say there's no contradiction there, and talk about God wiping out an entire city of people, or flooding the earth to kill everyone except one family, as being totally consistent with loving God that believes in compassion and forgiveness as prime virtues. I mean, they definitely *can* explain it, but their explanations are really weird and smell of rationalisation.
Jesus was a Platonist. Resurrection was the Eleusinian Mystery Ritual.
The forbidden fruit was the poison that gave you a near death experience. It lasted three days.
People let their feelings control their thoughts.
A large portion of their texts are forgeries, that's why Nobody liked tzem
And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgement, than for that city.
Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person's enemies will be those of his own household.
Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Jesus was a Jew, a practicing one. He got circumcised, went to synagogues and studied the Torah that was passed down through Moses. He frequently quoted the prophets that hold YHWH monotheism fervently (Isaiah, Jeremiah, Jonah etc.) to describe himself.
Trying to cut Jesus from his Jewish roots is entirely nonsensical; might as well throw it all away and become a pagan neoplatonist
@@clemenciosilvano8591 I think that is what he did.
I was thinking about this yesterday. If you had a single Cosmic consciousness, it's first act could plausibly be to create other conscious beings. The Consciousness might partition part of its Self like the way a cell (the basic unit of Physical Life) partitions or buds off new cells. The Gnostic concept of the Monad that gives rise to Aeons (and so on) seems to be a Metaphysical analogy for a process of Conscious partition and/or replication.
This video is great! I really hope this turns into a series!
This video randomly started playing on my phone when it was off
A lot of christians seem defensive and talk about how their god is not that bad or that we haven't really read the bible, calling different interpretations heresy and so on.
Fundamentally these are stories that people are free to interpret and believe as they like, and for some reason this really upsets them
I don't understand their hostility... Jesus Christ is still exalted in Gnostic circles
@@kwamesmith3214 I feel like to a degree, Christ is even *more* exalted in Gnosticism than normal Christianity. I mean, he’s his own god, not actually the child of an evil god-serpent. This means that Christ is more free, majestic and independent as a god than the version of him that is stuck onto the cross for the appeasement of Yaldabaoth.
Basically the gnostic lore is attempting to make sense why Christians insist the genocidal god in the old testament is the same god in the new testament who is also Jesus.
pretty much
that's just you showing that you would need a christian video of genesis to understand, because it is way more simple
@@adrielcolherinhas1908 god told his angels to massacare first born children
Why does everyone say that God is genocidal?
@@XxFoguinhoxX Because according to the old testament he is. He casually wipes out entire cities.
In 'Researches into the Phenomenology of the Self', C. G. Jung writes "According to Irenaeus, the Gnostics held that Sophia represents the world of the Ogdoad, which is a double quaternity. In the form of a dove, she descended into the water and begot Saturn , who is identical with Yahweh."
Yaldabaoth did not create the universe, but only 'planets' in our solar system.
Makes more sense than the mainstream interpretation of the Bible in which people perform mental acrobatics to make the demonic and hateful deity Yahweh out to be benevolent somehow. The story of Jacob and Esau makes way more sense when you realize Yahweh respects chutzpah, boldness and sneakiness above all else. And yeah, he protects Cain rather than punishing him, so it would make sense that he actually gets a kick out of watching people kill each other, especially considering what happens in the Book of Joshua. Yahweh orders the Israelites to carry out like a dozen different genocides. Crazy to think about how so many people worship Yaldabeoth, just under a different name. One of the main reasons I was an atheist as a little kid rather than believing what I was told was how little sense it made for Jesus and Yahweh to be parts of the same triune God when Jesus was quite peaceful while Yahweh is a war god and god of storms and metallurgy who drowns mankind.
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Agreed
Sounds like you didn't actually understand anything when you read the Bible
@@jwr2904 whats inaccurate about his statement oh wise one?
@@jwr2904 great input cupcake.
so all my problems came from a single mother and her autistic son
kek underrated comment
been looking for someone that would explain this as simply as you did, great job.
Man this is fr the most entertaining and fascinating semi-religious video/sermon i have ever watched 🤯🤯
Can't wait for part 2 😂😂🔥
Two things need to be noted.
"Gnostic" is a term coined in 17th. Adherents considered themselves Christians, and gnosticism was typically taught as an "inner school" of Christianity, something for a select few and not regular members.
There were MANY schools of gnostic thought, each with their own number of aeons, their names for the demiurge, their own philosophy on the nature of sin and salvation, and their own take on how Logos and Sophia conspired to restore the divine sparks trapped in the material world, and so on. It was NOT as monolithic as the video makes it out to be.
Uh oh…dude I’m making an anime of synchronization religions and mythologies, you telling me that makes me scared a little bit. 😭😭 like how tf are you more complicated than Hinduism?
@@FireFoxGaming_ - Might I suggest reading Bart Ehrman. Lost Christianities would be a good starting point.
@@TechBearSeattle thank you so much!
@@FireFoxGaming_
Christian syncretism with other pagan religions is *WILD* , dude.
Santeria, for one, then Christianity mixing with Greek/Slavic/Nordic/Germanic etc. mythologies...
The rabbit hole never ends.
May I assume that you are Hindi?
@@tulbanhawk ehhh yes and no, I’m more of an Omnist pagan ^^ thank you so much for asking, I’ve been writing and researching for years now, how their magic systems works, how it all ties together, ect. I would really hope this show is something to learn from and have fun with. Of course the story will be separate from the myths and beliefs meaning I won’t have to make the anime like blood of Zeus or Saint Saiya for example. You can also imagine how the “end of the world” is gonna turn out. 🤣 I’m also adding Islam, Zoroastrianism, Athenian, Judaism, ans many other monotheistic faiths with polytheistic faiths and shamanism, hell even heresies. so more like just- *All* of it.
Hey bro I love your videos and I want to know more about Gnosticism, even though I'm a Catholic I still like to learn about other faiths and Christian branches. These videos are very interesting, I love them, keep it up.
see, this is why im gnostic. A: its badass and B: it makes a hell of a lot more sense then "god did it because he loved us" or "because we were to wicked". it also explains a lot about the evil in the world, cuz there aint no way a kind, loving god would allow all this, but a evil, lesser god who just uses us for his amusement? makes sense to me! (would also explain our fascination with torturing npcs in games like the sims and people playground, just a thought lol.)
Holy f*ck your right im guilty of that in GTA 5
Been reading through Genesis for study. There are some insane moments in the Bible, that feel like a haphazardly cut together story with huge swaths of stuff just kinda left out.
When the snake is mentioned for the first time. Its done in such a way as if it and eve had known each other for years already with no explination or deeper dive into that.
The craziest thing about the gnostics is how, having read a lot of the bible, this actually perfectly fills in the blanks, even explaining the big bang and the universe before earth, something the bible kinda leaes out in genesis.
Get me out of Prison Planet!
Raise your vibration, escape the simulation
Escape from the Prison Planet - Clutch (1994)
Please
Yaldabaoth: no
Same
It’s funny because if you eat healthy and get sunlight you realize none of this shit means anything just be kind and spread love
Sometimes amidst a mountain of bullshit you will find a diamond... this comment is that diamond especially the last part so simple but so beautiful "just be kind and spread love" AFUCKINMEN BROTHER!!
@@johnrockyryanI agree with the second half of the OP comment🎉🎉… not the first, I fast more often than I eat and I stay away from sunlight due to immune deficiency😂😂… at least that’s what I think happened to my comatose body
Dude, please, release a second part. This is equally fun and educational.
Love the world building. Hyped to see what you do with this material!
The Bible instantly makes 300% more sense when god is changed to a inter dimensional warlord
But also 300 times more blasphemous &/or even heretical
@@Seraph2101 wtf do does words mean
@@tamerlane9889 Blaphemous means "sacrilegious against God or sacred things; profane." While heretical can mean "believing in or practicing religious heresy." which is a belief contrary to a certain belief, in this case with Christianity.
@@Seraph2101 By worshipping the vile demiurge you are are committing a great Hersey
@@tamerlane9889 That's Idolatry... Besides the Gnostic texts are heresy... Why would you believe that I worship such a tyrant?!
Gnosticism is so fascinating. A lot of Gnostics also practiced many “controversial” practices such as equality, abstinence, anti-classism, individualism, etc. The Church saw them as a threat.
And then the Cathari happened, followed by the Albigensian Crusade.
Glad that modern denominations arent treated like them.
Rather bogus claim considering Gnostics were much more elitist than conventional Christians; elitism is in fact built into Gnostic cosmology.
Also, the gospel of Thomas.
At least from the video he covered old testament books
@@alternateperson6600 Depends on the sect, homie. “Gnosticism” is an amalgamation of different religions and faiths that were labeled as “Gnostics”, but we genuinely do not know because many records and documentations were burned and lost, or confiscated. While it is true one of the principles of “Gnosticism” is “knowledge, authority, and power to the few,” no one knows where that tenant originated from. Many other “Gnostics” however believed that any individual can achieve self-enlightenment.
One excellent example of a *true, genuine* sect of Gnostics is Mandaeism, one of the few sects of Gnostic-Christianity that still exists today, but their numbers are scarce. I highly recommend reading and researching them because it’s fascinating and they’re not at all demonic, just misunderstood. ReligionforBreakfast and other theology channels made excellent videos explaining them.
@@alternateperson6600wanna try and say that the largest denomination of current and past times with their massive gilded buildings and rituals who believe that one human man per generation can be the link to the divine isn’t full of elitism
Aight boss 👍🤣
Time is a tricky part of all of this. You have to keep in mind that time here probably doesn't matter outside of this terrible place. This demiurge fella has to keep things linear here, but this linear time is easy to destroy. This sick enemy is already destroyed, but we are stuck in a linear world that has to play out. What seems like an eternity was probably instantaneous to the monad. I'm not worried one bit. I'm already witnessing the false thrones slowly destroying themselves. This actually happened in an instant. We can't forget that time itself is a part of this.
Adam is actually symbolic of God, he goes to sleep. It is not good for God or Adam to be alone, so he rests on the 7th day, and creates all of us. Eve was taken out of Adam, but the Bible never says he woke up. Lillith, his first wife, was NOT taken out of Adam and is rebellious. So when the dream ends, and the sleeping god awakens, the children of Eve are saved, being rooted in the dreaming God, but the children of lillith, the tares, were never real to begin with. They are just nightmares. At the highest level of reality, there is only God.
This makes me completely understand why
The gnostics were destroyed
Well there was also a church thru built around the time of 1000-1200AD by the gnostics and basically was a big suicidal cult. Christians did not like people killing themselves and wanted to prevent cult from spreading sp they killed off the cult
Most deserved tbh
@karl5641 Childish nonsense does too
It makes more sense than modern chrstianity, god does a complete 180 between the new and old testaments, so it makes sense that the old would be about an evil god and the new about the true god.
@@ColesGingy How is he evil at all? Jesus is the Messiah of the Jewish faith fulfilling over 300 OT prophecies regarding YHWH and the savior. YHWH was never evil.
Great narration. It blew my mind when I first heard of this. Basically the reason JRPGs end with killing god.
When it comes to Abraham and his descendants it was also the Pleroma who intervened on their behalf and not Yaldabaoth and his archons. And it was the Pleroma that blessed Abraham and his seeds and protected them from most of the attacks from the Archons.
God as a vengeful and petty narcissist who delights in peoples’ misery is the most honest interpretation of reality I’ve ever heard
Not reality, just your ego. You're weak, so you expect God to be weak. Do you really want God to wipe your ass for you all the time, or would you rather learn to grow up and be a full human? The Universe can be a really amazing place if you stop trying to control it all the time.
Good thing its not *the* reality. the vedas / hinduism was founded 2000 years before this.
@@codylujan and the sumerian pantheon before that, your point?
@@FoxEmblem01 That came after
@@h.hickenanaduk8622 It seems you are a proponent of just having faith in Christ to be saved ( maybe I'm wrong ) ?
But that belief is tantamount to expecting god to wipe your arse .
I hope this sequel doesn't come out 6 months from now. That was a great video
Actually...the serpent at the beginning at 0:10 seconds is ambracksis (spelling wrong) which is baphmit or satan. Or also know as Saturn's cube or the kabaal they walk around in the middle east is the same thing and is also in the entrance of trump tower. Who's part of Baphmit society. Amd the word MAGA is an old word for dark magic and deception...so I'm with you, I hope not to.
this is really really great! wonderful work. i really love the visual representation of the 'lore'. thank you for making and sharing this
sup, my subjects. having fun in the kenoma?
Certainly, thank youu
this update sucks
no, take me back to the true source of light.
Can you make florida more crazy
No, not really
this is the most fascinating take on religion I've ever seen, and i cant believe it was written so long ago
this is GENIOUS, it makes too much sense, best fanfic ever
and I love how they explain Yaldabaoth, it feels so authentic
please tell me more, you got a new sub to help you escape Yaldabaoth
This version has less Plot Holes than the Christian version
This is Christianity
This is actually a much better story than the usual version.
This was a delight to watch, please make more dude I love gmostic lore
It's good to know that this is the THIRD "edition" of Genesis... The SECOND edition is the one we are all used to... The ORIGINAL edition of Genesis was never written down and was only memorized and passed down...
I never felt like God was our friend. This makes much more sense
Absolutely beautiful
Looking forward to the next part, just subbed
Genshin and Honkai lore but Pleroma is called the imaginary tree and kenoma is the sea of quanta
as very much an ex gnostic, that's why I love the two games
@@runaniko what made you decide to join and leave that religion?
@@4n0ngaming the core beliefs of gnosticism, such as christs esoteric teachings, the wickedness of the material world, the limit of the physical body and the suffering that channels through it were all reasons for my beliefs. I wasn't part of any particular sect, just a general gnostic. recently, I have made a realisation that made me value the idea that the monad is not any different from the demiurge due to the passiveness and free will he offers us, under the circumstances that he could save us all. the gospel of truth changed my views. it was a lot to take in, I've suffered and cried, but to say the least, god isn't all that benevolent. theology, especially christianity and its heresies are a huge interest of mine since I'm a writer that mostly focuses on religion, but also because of childhood ideas and the fact that I left orthodoxy so young. I have prayed before leaving gnosticism and I believe I have received an answer : to take a break.
Nice to see Genshin fans here. It’s interesting how the game inverts some of this lore.
@@AzukaTheGoat close enough, but I highly dislike genshin for its poor cultural representation and monotone storyline (opinion which may vary), but i appreciate the subtle gnostic themes. for now, I'm only a star rail player and I nearly screamed when I saw the aeons and their names and how they reference gnostic sects. i really wish they incorporated more aspects of gnosticism, it would make the story so pleasing for me
Let’s be honest Norea is probably the main character with her fire-breathing magic lol
That story seems like reasonable people looking back at the bible and realizing that it was written from an abuser point of view and then trying to flip the story's pov
Great vid
Damn, i like this version more than the canon
The answer to people who see the "intelligent design" thing but not the "God is good" thing
This is my first encounter with Gnostic tradition and it feels so much more "right" than the Christian story.
I've often looked at religion as the 'devils' way to confuse and separate us. Its very clever actually and jives with the Gnostic story of the false god of this world.
Finally i’ve been waiting for you to upload
I've read that the Gnostics may have been more numerous than the Catholics in the 1st-3rd century
Glad I looked at your other videos after the iceberg. This is fantastic!!!! Instant subscribe.
The Bible, but this time it makes more sense
Wait, Michael and Raphael were two of the four sent to earth to fight? Can we change the names of the other two to Leonardo and Donatello?
Thank you! Please make more of these. 🙏
I'm a Gnostic Priest and I discuss Gnosticism. I live and breath Gnostic Christianity. I also subbed to your channel. I can share more with you if you would like
Where can I find legit gnostics? I remember trying to find a gnostic church several years ago and found one in the us that was super far, didn't seem like they took gnosticism seriously and rarely held actual services
@@NTJV there's a few in the United States varying in theology and practices. There's a few meditation courses run by some Gnostic groups. I work with The Gnostic Catholic Union. There a collection of different Gnostic Philosophies groups and churches. They only use the term Catholic as in the Latin sense of Universal as there a Union of different Gnostic groups in alliance with one another. Most Gnostic groups start of or stay as private courses. Unfortunately because of the heavy persecution and genocide committed against the Gnostics. Gnostic Christianity has to rebuild itself. It however is now growing in popularity again thankfully. It's such a shame as at one stage Gnostic Christianity was the most popular and largest form of Christianity
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Thank you for the support! I hope you enjoy the series I know there was some (obvious) artistic liberty taken when combining aspects of the various Gnostic Myths. I am curious about a couple of things since I began looking into the Gnostica Ecclesia a while back here's the questions I would ask:
1: Do you consider yourselves to be the "true" Christians or would you rather abandon that label?
2: Among the various churches I've seen none of you seem to have a bible or canon I'm curious as to why, I've seen a few point to the "Gnostic Bible," but that's just a collection of various Gnostic texts, mostly from Nag Hammadi? Basically would your groups be averse to compiling a bible for any reason? (Because I was compiling my own Gnostic Bible because someone asked me to.)
3: I assume for the most part that you don't take the Gnostic myths like the one shown in this video as true, but I am curious what exactly is the modern Gnostic's stance on Yahweh, is he evil, a lesser god, simply fiction, or something else entirely?
@@ParryMegistus my comments are getting censored now. Yaldabaoth is the ignorance and ego of self and lower state of conciousness. Read the Gospel of John in Greek I translated its complete diffrent to what they show the public. The Gnostic bible are Not the Gnostic writing's they have been majority edited. Get or read the Nag hammadi instead. Many blessings I hope this helps
And imagine then that it's only a pick of an iceberg-I mean, there is Manichaeism, which takes all these even deeper.
This was all very interesting. I'm looking forward to part two.
Jaldebetum is my favourite character in this story
*Yaldabaoth
Well, if a bad guy was running things, im pretty sure he would say hes the good guy and the enemies are bad. Its a logical conclusion of our religion shaped plights. God of the blind is a good title for such a thing.
Excellent rendition. Thank you!!!
There's actually a lot of contention that YHWH is actually Sabaoth and means well but does a terrible job of being a decent god...
Or maybe that humans are self-righteous? It is literally the same as illegal migrants protesting under parlament of Germany demanding social support and crying that government is evil for not doing its job (which is true because they should be immediately arrested and deported).
Please do more of bible's books with the gnostic perspective
The title should be "Genesis, but without censorship".
Good intro to Gnosticism anyway, very good for first timers trying to understand it, a bit too summarized at times maybe, but it's enough to get the idea and whoever is truly interested should have no problem diving deep into it 👍🏻🖤🏴☠️
Very surface level but informative nonetheless. The first 200 years of Christianity were an absolute wild west, and at one point the Gnostic interpretations of Christianity came quite close to becoming mainstream. The historical context of all this isn't just "a bunch of edgy trolls came together to write fan-fiction". Look up the books such as "The Gnostic Paul" by Elaine Pagels and the works of Bart Ehrman. There are a few historical mysteries that, if resolved, would definitely help us uncover which groups were correct.
Doesn’t pull away from the fact that an all Loving God cannot create a realm containing Evil because then he would have to know Evil, making him not All Loving
No they weren't. The people who knew Jesus personally, the eyewitnesses to the events, founded Christianity. Christians knew that Gnostics were BS because their Church came from the source.
Also, Bart Ehrman is a hack who sews doubt into the authenticity of the Bible in his public writing ("Bible manuscripts are full of tons of variations!"), but basically admits their complete reliability in his scholarly writing ("The variants are mostly spelling, grammar, etc, and don't change any of the meaning whatsoever.").
Incredible video. Really makes you think.