A foreseeable issue with rooting imported florist roses to plant in cold zones is that their root systems may have trouble suviving frozen soils overwinter - soils which turn into a block of ice in my area because of freezing rain. A rose like that would be better off grafted onto multiflora undertstock or Dr. Huey, like any hybrid tea on the market. For cold climates, it's better to seek out a rose grower with bud-grafting services for the florist types, otherwise; root the plant at your own risk. Even with grafted roses, there are no guarantees. Much also depends on the skill of the gardener.
Thanks for adding this. There are more than a few reasons why florists roses might not perform well in the home garden, and hardiness is definitely one of them. As a project to try your hand at propagation, I don't mind teaching the methods, but for long-term success in rose gardening it really pays to source proven garden varieties.
Excellent points. I have been fortunate in that most of the floral arrangements sold in our area are sourced locally. Those that aren't may root as indoor plants but unlikely to survive our zone 4/5 winters. Another consideration is that some roses/flowers are dyed, and resulting rooted plants may disappoint.
I'm just imagining the horror on your partner's face when they buy you a beautiful, expensive bunch of roses and you immediately hack the flowers off and stuff the stems in dirt.
My revelation: the trick is to not let the stem tops get warmer than the bottoms. I have 2 spots in my garden where I root stems. Both are moist with indirect or filtered with a low canopy of surrounding plants. I didn't use rooting hormone. After several years of many failures, I currently have 20 new roses rooted after figuring out the value of stem temperature. Bonus, the rootings have all survived zone 4 winter. Worked for multiplying my azaleas and hydrangea as well. Great alternative if you don't have a greenhouse or your greenhouse is already full 😂 Thanks for all the tips, every bit helps! 😃
@ayzie804 I root mine right in the dirt, typically in a warm spot of the garden but under another plant's canopy to shade the tops. My best spots are under the daylilies & creeping phlox or beneath a shrub. I've got a bunch more going right now from Mother's day & anniversary bouquets 🥰
@Cookontherun7391 Carnations can be stem propagated as well. Just be patient, any type of plant tops can appear dead while energy is going into making new roots. Sometimes, stems (any kind) can look dead then pop up the next Spring. Good luck 😊
Jason, one of the many things I love about your channel is that, even though you have almost a quarter of a miliion followers, you always seem to find the time to answer viewers questions and interact with them, unlike so many TH-camrs who, once they get a few thousand followers no longer bother connecting with their public, which is sad. Great video, as always.
My grandma used to do this, except she would wash the inside of a jar with mud to put over the rose cuttings and she stuck the cuttings in the flower bed on the north side of the house. I have tried to copy her but with no success. She could work magic with what she could get to grow. Of course, what she did and what I remember as a kid are going to be different. I must have missed some key elements.
Nice. I don't keep up on the florists varieties, but it sounds cool. I wonder if the color is natural - I've heard of dye introduced to the water to modify the tint of the flower.
My boyfriend bought me a lovely bouquet of 24 red roses for valentines day and they immediately started to die the day after I recieved them so I wanted to try to save as many as possible because he spent so much money on them and it was our first valentines day together so they meant so much to me. so far im starting to see buds grow on a couple of the stems and the start of rooting on at least one of them. I am propogating 12 out of the 24 in two small storage tubs with 2 ltr bottles covering them in a temperature controlled room with plenty of indirect sunlight. I hope at least some of them take.
I received a multicoloured bouquet of roses mid October last year. The weather is cold and damp here in winter, where I live in North West England, U.K. I noticed that the stems had started to grow tiny new leaf buds, so rather than throw them away when the blooms had finished, I grabbed some scissors and quickly cut lots of pieces from the stems (not very long pieces actually). I have a little cold frame in the garden outside my kitchen and I pushed the cuttings in a few pots that were already in there with some other cuttings. I didn’t even use rooting powder. I left them in the cold frame over winter. It’s not heated. All I did was line the thin Perspex walls with some horticultural fleece, as I was already trying to overwinter some Pelargoniums. I always check the cold frame regularly and I could see some of the rose cuttings were doing well and still growing new leafy shoots despite it being cold. So after leaving them alone for 6 months, I now have 6 propagated baby rose plants that I recently put outside of the cold frame and they’re still doing well. The weather here is still cold and wet as we haven’t yet had any good spring weather. The only mistake I made was not labelling what colour the cuttings were because I didn’t expect any of them to take! So I’ll have to wait and see when they produce some buds. This lucky success is a big contrast to last spring, when I’d bought a Sexy Rexy rose plant for my garden and a small stem snapped off. I thought I’d try to propagate that, so I put it in a little plant pot in my kitchen after dipping the end in rooting powder and kept it under half an empty plastic soda bottle so that the humidity was correct, altering the ventilation to the perfect level regularly. It took many weeks to root well enough until I could remove the half bottle propagator. I really had to baby that cutting because at first it looked like it was dying. I was finally able to put the Sexy Rexy rose cutting outside, in its pot, late Summer last year. I don’t see how the bouquet cuttings rooted so quickly and survived in a cold frame outdoors without any fuss at all. I’m also wondering what the mature size of the bouquet rose plants will be, as I have no idea what type of rose they are. I really wish I knew, so that I can plan where I want to plant them in my garden, based on their final height.
A friend of mine got a dozen beautiful burgundy roses for Mother's Day. She placed them in a vase full of water and they have all thrown out roots with the flowers still attached! This girl has the greenest thumb I have ever seen.
Grate video, I was going to do what you did. With the roses, I got my wife for Valentines Day. If I get them to grow, will they bloom this year or next year. Thanks Steve
Depending on how well they "take" you can see booms this same year, although I like to disbud in the first year to support more growth and better flowering in the 2nd season
Very impressive, given what you started with! Are vining roses done the same way? I have a rose that my father planted sometime before he passed in 1971, and would like to give a clone to my sister.
I had a shot towards the end of the video where I had de-potted all of them. Rooting was uneven, but all were past the callus stage - and most were well into rooting.
Ooooh! When I watched it to the end, I thought you said you grabbed one from another cutting to show the roots, not the ones from the bouquet. So in three weeks, 8/8 rooted? Do you plan to grow these out to see how to develop and bloom? I assume it takes a few years to get blooms. I haven't tried rooting cuttings, but I do want to try!
@@marydrew3568it doesn’t take years. I have cuttings from 2022 that flowered the next year in 2023. Granted it was only one flower lol but it did flower. I didn’t even notice it had a flower till after the flower had faded, otherwise I’d have cut it off to save the little guy from going to the trouble and wasting that energy on flowers when it should be branching and growing.
Love your informative videos - thank you! How long did it take for them to root ? My neighbour in the Netherlands used to do this and I thought she was crazy. Now I know I was the crazy one
Awesome video! And that idea of the inverted tupperware, wow! Im going to adapt it for sure! Now can we root rose stems from the garden or bouquet in water? If yes, how long will it take to root?
Hi Jason, I tried this method and my leaves are browning, so I’m wondering if I am watering too much? In your video you said that you misted every couple of days and that’s the only watering you provided?
Thanks for this video. I have terrible luck propagating from cuttings. I use coco peat, IBA 0.6% rooting hormone, and a humidity dome. After a couple of weeks of root formation the roots turn black and the root-up blackening happens - I'm guessing this is because coco peat holds up too much moisture. Any suggestions on what I could improve would be highly appreciated.
Sounds to me like you're on the right track with excess moisture. Mixing with coarse perlite may lighten it up a bit an keep more air around the roots. I like to get the temperature in the 20C/68F range or a little higher - bottom heat is ideal, but not necessary. I assume you have ventilation holes in the dome.
Rooting hormone speeds along the process, but if conditions are favorable roses can root without it. I wouldn't use potatoes or honey - they're not helpful
So what about possible patent infringement? This looks like a classic case of plausible deniability since they were not marked. Can these be mass produced and sold?
This is more general rose propagation question. Many roses are grafted onto root stock. Clearly that won't happen when we propagare them. How much difference does that make with the success of the new plant?
It depends on the varieties involved. I grow primarily from cuttings, and while most everything thrives, there's a small handful of rose varieties that are weak on their own roots. Over the long term you won't have problems with rootstock suckers or the reduced lifespan associated with graft failure, but grafted roses sure establish much faster.
It varies a lot by region and store, but they're all pretty much from hybrid tea/florist rose breeding programs being grown (primarily) in central America if you're in the North American market.
Help! I have a single cut rose I was given on my birthday! One of the nodes is growing new growth leaves already. How far below that should I cut? If I cut too short it’ll be deep in the dirt right? Should it be exposed?
Does rooting hormone go bad? I have some in my garage that is several years old. Should I buy fresh? How does forgoing rooting hormone affect the success rate? I put some cuttings in the ground with my Feb pruning but I didn't know about any of your tips, and didn't use my rooting hormone (I forgot it was there). Of the 10 or so, I think 3 might be successful.
Some info I've read says that it does lose efficacy over time, but I've never seen anything certain on the topic. How the hormone effects the rate depends on the plant. Some plants root easily on their own (willow, etc) so in that case it doesn't effect the rate at all. Others need a little more convincing. I find it speeds along rooting on roses enough to make a difference both in space efficiency (how often I can turn over the space I'm using for propagation) and overall success rate. I'd estimate that for average rose varieties it boosts my success rate (using semi-hardwood) from around 65 without to around 85% with
Hi Jason, I am not having success with my stimroot #2 could it be too old or a dud batch or can I use # 3 for roses rodos etc. And can we cut the bud off or notch it above to force growth. I just discovered Clone X mist for propagation have you looked at that?
#3 is pretty good for rhodos, but probably a little strong for semi-hardwood roses. Another option is to take a small amount of the powder and dilute by half with unscented baby powder (talc) if you have it on hand.
I’ve grown 5 ‘baby roses’ from seeds I propagated from a rosehip. They are growing well, but only 2 have ‘branched out’ the others are getting very tall but only single stem. What would you recommend I do?
I see a lot of videos like this and thank you for the detail, but all fall short of next steps, seasons, locations etc. for becoming a mature plant - cutting all the way to mature flowering would be so, so helpful - thank you again for sharing - I’m a propagation novice, but finding it a necessary skill as the huge deer herds are decimating everything on our 2.3 acres, the herds are out of control as there are few natural predators which is upsetting the balance needed in natural habitats, with the exception of daffodils.
Thanks - it might be a little long for a single video, and to play Devil's advocate, once you've rooted them into a pot, there's really not much difference growing it to maturity and any other potted plant start. I do have some videos on the channel covering "next steps" though.
This comment is not related to this video, just picked the freshest video to connect with you Mr. Roses guy ;) As I mentioned before this channel is one of the best if not the best in terms of TONS of free and extremely useful info. I watched so many of your videos, some a few times and have a goal to watch ALL of them asap. I just started gardening around 2 years ago with many many many mistakes (many done purposely with intention to learn). And I was so successful in such a short period of time that everything I plant grows like weed. As I was told that’s because I enjoy the process and put my heart into it. So the question is this, if it wasn’t answered yet: Starting a tiny backyard nursery on a 30ftx30ft backyard, what do you recommend to start with (as you said before: check the water with a tip of your finger). There’s so much I want to do, there’s so many possibilities. Annuals, perennials, flowers, trees, bushes, vegetables etc etc. I want to start with a small stock of basic veggie seedlings like tomato, cucumber, eggplant, squash etc and then continue with perennials like roses, grapes, flowers like lilacs etc. stuff that I enjoy and would want to have in my own garden. For me, only problem is SPACE SPACE SPACE. So what’s your advice. What to start with in a very limited space? PS I truly have a dream of quitting my good union job in NYC and move as far away from this chaotic city as possible to follow my farming/nursery dream on a few hundred acres of land. When I have money to do so ;)
Thanks. It totally makes sense to focus on the plants you're already passionate about and would grow for yourself - it makes the selling easier. Beyond that, my thoughts are to grow plants that strike the right balance of being unusual/unique enough that you're not competing directly on the same items with larger growers on price, but still well known or marketable enough to sell through. I made a rather dry video on the topic of plants to choose for your nursery a while back: th-cam.com/video/EKcUBRPspxQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=s_khbtQubyrsR0fe
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm HUGE THANKS for a reply. You’re right. Competing with Home Depot, Lawe’s etc (which are almost around the corner from me) is impossible. So choosing a “rare” way was my first and main idea, but how profitable can “rare plants” be? That’s why they are rare - not many every-day buyers buy them, for an exception of a few flower enthusiasts. I’d still try this option first, because it’s the most logical, but still try a small percentage of common plants for this reason: I go to a big box store such as Home Depot and it truly hurts my heart to see the condition of their plants. I clearly understand it’s just business for them and they can’t give 2 shytes about their plants, but still, sad :( I guess there’s no definite answer to my question and the only option is to experiment to see what’s gonna sell the best in this area. Sadly, for annuals a single experiment takes whole year. That’s why this coming season I want to “try water” in several directions. Already starting a bunch of perennials in my greenhouse such as roses, dwarf/semi-dwarf fruit trees etc., bunch of annuals, mostly veggies. Let’s see if I’m gonna be able to sell anything this year. Again, huge thanks for a reply. You can’t imagine how much joy each reply from such an experienced gardener as you are brings to a beginner like me.
I have seen some videos where some gardeners use 'aspirin (crushed & powdered) instead of 'growth hormone'. Is it ok to use 'aspirin' instead of growth hormone ??
My bet would be no. The breeding is focused on greenhouse production of cut flowers, and not at all focused on hardiness. I think they're mainly bred from hybrid teas, which aren't known for their cold tolerance.
My mom once needed the the rose buds from a bouquet. So I ripped off bottom leafs changed the water and stuck them in the full direct sun. 99% of them developed beautiful calluses over a period of a few months.
How much light those cutting need during rooting? Also... Is it true that roses of different colours has different difficulty of rooting (with red being the easiest to root and white is the hardest)?
Bright indirect sun is fine - they don't need intense light. In my experience favorable temperatures and humidity play a larger role in how quickly they root. No, I haven't noted any straightforward correlation between flower color and ease of rooting.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you for the answer! I never managed to root a cutting in the soil - all always blackened and die, though rooting in water worked fine, if slow. Maybe excessive light to blame? Will see in spring.
I’ve actually , just once, had roses start rooting in the vase. I was completely perplexed and not sure how that was possible. I tried to plant it in my garden but it didn’t make it. Several of the cut roses had started growing roots though. So bizarre!
I have one propagation that sucessfully developed some roots. It's currently in a perlite/soil mix. Should I repot in soil with less perlite or keep it there and wait for it to grow more roots?
At what point can you plant them outside in your garden and are most roses perennial? And last question will they flower the first year?( is it considered a mature plant or do you have to wait several years? Thank you so much, I’m going to try this for fun.
I transition them outdoors once rooted. Yes, they're naturally perennial shrubs, and will bloom in their first year once they're well rooted and in strong growth.
Pretty amazing. Says a lot that you could pull this off. I would have thought treatment and chemicals used on most florist flowers would have made them a no go. On the other hand, they are successful at keeping them fresh. Thank you for your superb content and willingness to help us grow more beautiful plants.
It's a bit strong for the stage of growth. If you have unscented talcum powder around, you could "dilute" the 0.8 by half int the talc to make a more suitable concentration.
Thanks! That may be a good option. The only problem is that a lot of the baby powders here in the US are corn starch-based now (I don't know about Canada). I found pure talc powder, but it's an epoxy/resin additive. I guess it will probably work...
Hi Jason, what are the odds that a random supermarket bouquet would be hardy to, say, Canadian Zone 5? Is that kind of hardiness unlikely for mass-market imported roses? (There are plenty of nice roses that thrive in my area but I don't know if they represent only a small, hardy subset of the broader rose world.) Thank you for the video.
Good question. My impression is that the odds are low. Cold hardiness isn't something the breeders would have to concern themselves with much. I think the parentage leans heavily towards hybrid tea roses, which aren't the hardiest class overall.
Ok... Watched both recent Propagation videos. I just clipped a stem, (all my Roses are budding..) trimmed, dipped, and planted 6 cuttings from that Stem. A thought occurred, can I also mix a little Hormone in the Soil? I couldn't find anything in a brief search.. Thanks Steve
Hi Steve. No, the rooting powder is meant to be applied directly to the stem, and this in one of those cases where more isn't better, so a light dip then tap off the excess and directly into the potting mix
Such helpful information. I am excited at the possibility. Would this same process work with other varieties of flowers? I received two beautiful bouquets. One had white/cream colored roses with hydrangeas and tiger lilies. They are absolutely beautiful. Would you recommend this process right away? As you mentioned how these are grown in bulk in South America ? I don’t want to go shopping off the top of those beautiful roses just yet after having received them yesterday. 😊 I live in Central Alabama, where the weather usually gets quite warm and humid. Today being an exception where it’s in the 60s and raining. But we are expecting mid 80s by mid week with Sunshine. Thank you for your time and valued advice.
It's the spot that's most likely to develop fast and vigorous rooting - something to do with bundles of undifferentiated tissues nearby the bud(s) at the node.
I’ve been trying to find a rose that is not just cut stems it goes by the trade name grey knight is there anyway you might be able to tell me the true name and type of
Doesn't pushing in the stem actually remove the rooting powder, I always thought one used something like a pencil as a dibber and firmed the soil lightly to hold it. But looking at your good results maybe not!
The rooting powder is formulated with sticking and handling in mind, if anything most amateur growers put *too thick* a layer of powder onto the stem. A thin coating is fine, even if you lose a little to handling.
Good question. It's quite mixed these days, with some roses being offered as both grafted and own-root - depending on the preferences of the gardener. Many of the newer hybrids are bred with strong own-root performance as one of the goals. It's not as simple as saying grafted roses perform better than own-root in any case. The grafted sometimes get an early lead in development, while own-root roses are often longer-lived and never have the problem of rootstock suckers.
The problem with this is living in northern states, zone 5, you may be able to propagate a rose but it won't survive the winter if it's for zone let's say 7 or 6. You don't know what variety they really are.
True. A fun project, but there's no guarantee that what you end up with will be usable in your climate - many are bred for greenhouse culture, and may not make good garden roses (even if you were in California!)
If v take cuttings in early spring and try to root them from my own garden, cud that work? I did plant some before winter, looks like some of these are showing signs of growth, but not sure if they started rooting as well…will wait and see…
So I left my neglected Valentine rose in water and tonight I went to throw it out I realized there's new leaves and actually a flower bud. Should I take that out of the water and do the root hormone in put it in soil?
Do you wet your soul prior to inserting the cuttings? Or is it dry soil? If it’s dry soil do you just mist the top of the soil after inserting the cuttings?
A foreseeable issue with rooting imported florist roses to plant in cold zones is that their root systems may have trouble suviving frozen soils overwinter - soils which turn into a block of ice in my area because of freezing rain. A rose like that would be better off grafted onto multiflora undertstock or Dr. Huey, like any hybrid tea on the market. For cold climates, it's better to seek out a rose grower with bud-grafting services for the florist types, otherwise; root the plant at your own risk. Even with grafted roses, there are no guarantees. Much also depends on the skill of the gardener.
Thanks for adding this. There are more than a few reasons why florists roses might not perform well in the home garden, and hardiness is definitely one of them. As a project to try your hand at propagation, I don't mind teaching the methods, but for long-term success in rose gardening it really pays to source proven garden varieties.
Excellent points. I have been fortunate in that most of the floral arrangements sold in our area are sourced locally. Those that aren't may root as indoor plants but unlikely to survive our zone 4/5 winters. Another consideration is that some roses/flowers are dyed, and resulting rooted plants may disappoint.
I'm just imagining the horror on your partner's face when they buy you a beautiful, expensive bunch of roses and you immediately hack the flowers off and stuff the stems in dirt.
Lol. Yeah - at least have the decency to let the flowers fade a bit. Lisa saw the mayhem and just shook her head!
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm😂😂😂
hahaha! They are so pretty and you just clip off the rose and toss the flower down. 😂 I died. 🫠
Thank you for tip!!
@@marydrew3568 especially the 4 that weren't appropriate for starting from cutting 😅
My revelation: the trick is to not let the stem tops get warmer than the bottoms. I have 2 spots in my garden where I root stems. Both are moist with indirect or filtered with a low canopy of surrounding plants. I didn't use rooting hormone. After several years of many failures, I currently have 20 new roses rooted after figuring out the value of stem temperature. Bonus, the rootings have all survived zone 4 winter. Worked for multiplying my azaleas and hydrangea as well. Great alternative if you don't have a greenhouse or your greenhouse is already full 😂 Thanks for all the tips, every bit helps! 😃
I had the same revelation this year. 😊 How to do you achieve warmer bottoms in the location you described? With a heat mat?
@ayzie804 I root mine right in the dirt, typically in a warm spot of the garden but under another plant's canopy to shade the tops. My best spots are under the daylilies & creeping phlox or beneath a shrub. I've got a bunch more going right now from Mother's day & anniversary bouquets 🥰
I’m zone 4 as well and have a spot in my garden box that is shaded by a poplar tree. Will carnations work?
@Cookontherun7391 Carnations can be stem propagated as well. Just be patient, any type of plant tops can appear dead while energy is going into making new roots. Sometimes, stems (any kind) can look dead then pop up the next Spring. Good luck 😊
Jason, one of the many things I love about your channel is that, even though you have almost a quarter of a miliion followers, you always seem to find the time to answer viewers questions and interact with them, unlike so many TH-camrs who, once they get a few thousand followers no longer bother connecting with their public, which is sad.
Great video, as always.
Thanks so much Elie!
Thanks, Jason. 8 out of 8, wow. I'm tempted.
You bring beauty into the world.
Amazing info. Thank you Jason. Also love your humidity dome 🥰
My grandma used to do this, except she would wash the inside of a jar with mud to put over the rose cuttings and she stuck the cuttings in the flower bed on the north side of the house. I have tried to copy her but with no success. She could work magic with what she could get to grow. Of course, what she did and what I remember as a kid are going to be different. I must have missed some key elements.
Lol. And some people just seem to have the "knack" for it.
I'm going to do the mud/jar thing. Thanks Grandma! :)
Thank You So Much Jason. I am grateful for your advice n showing how to 👍👍
Excellent tutorial! I'm always on the hunt for new at-home outdoor plant projects and will definitely give this a try. Thanks for sharing!
a forever useful channel.
Thank you.
Most welcome!
Definitely gonna try this with some Ive seen for sale that are cup shaped with green petals on the outside, and a light pink center.
Nice. I don't keep up on the florists varieties, but it sounds cool. I wonder if the color is natural - I've heard of dye introduced to the water to modify the tint of the flower.
Rose 'Frutteto' and Rose 'Bridal Piano' come to mind, but there's so many varieties
My boyfriend bought me a lovely bouquet of 24 red roses for valentines day and they immediately started to die the day after I recieved them so I wanted to try to save as many as possible because he spent so much money on them and it was our first valentines day together so they meant so much to me. so far im starting to see buds grow on a couple of the stems and the start of rooting on at least one of them. I am propogating 12 out of the 24 in two small storage tubs with 2 ltr bottles covering them in a temperature controlled room with plenty of indirect sunlight. I hope at least some of them take.
Did they survive?
Thank you
I received a multicoloured bouquet of roses mid October last year. The weather is cold and damp here in winter, where I live in North West England, U.K.
I noticed that the stems had started to grow tiny new leaf buds, so rather than throw them away when the blooms had finished, I grabbed some scissors and quickly cut lots of pieces from the stems (not very long pieces actually). I have a little cold frame in the garden outside my kitchen and I pushed the cuttings in a few pots that were already in there with some other cuttings. I didn’t even use rooting powder. I left them in the cold frame over winter. It’s not heated. All I did was line the thin Perspex walls with some horticultural fleece, as I was already trying to overwinter some Pelargoniums. I always check the cold frame regularly and I could see some of the rose cuttings were doing well and still growing new leafy shoots despite it being cold.
So after leaving them alone for 6 months, I now have 6 propagated baby rose plants that I recently put outside of the cold frame and they’re still doing well. The weather here is still cold and wet as we haven’t yet had any good spring weather. The only mistake I made was not labelling what colour the cuttings were because I didn’t expect any of them to take! So I’ll have to wait and see when they produce some buds.
This lucky success is a big contrast to last spring, when I’d bought a Sexy Rexy rose plant for my garden and a small stem snapped off. I thought I’d try to propagate that, so I put it in a little plant pot in my kitchen after dipping the end in rooting powder and kept it under half an empty plastic soda bottle so that the humidity was correct, altering the ventilation to the perfect level regularly. It took many weeks to root well enough until I could remove the half bottle propagator. I really had to baby that cutting because at first it looked like it was dying. I was finally able to put the Sexy Rexy rose cutting outside, in its pot, late Summer last year.
I don’t see how the bouquet cuttings rooted so quickly and survived in a cold frame outdoors without any fuss at all.
I’m also wondering what the mature size of the bouquet rose plants will be, as I have no idea what type of rose they are. I really wish I knew, so that I can plan where I want to plant them in my garden, based on their final height.
wow this is awesome! I'm gonna try my first rose propagation soon :) Thx for the write up!
Amazing as always ❤️
A friend of mine got a dozen beautiful burgundy roses for Mother's Day. She placed them in a vase full of water and they have all thrown out roots with the flowers still attached! This girl has the greenest thumb I have ever seen.
My Mother’s Day roses are doing that too. First time ever I’m so excited
Mine too, I'm shocked. But in his other video he said if it shoots before it roots it won't last. 😢
Luv it. Thank you for sharing.
What a fun idea! I'm def going to try with a few of the stems I received yesterday!!!!
great vid! thank you!
Grate video, I was going to do what you did. With the roses, I got my wife for Valentines Day. If I get them to grow, will they bloom this year or next year.
Thanks Steve
Depending on how well they "take" you can see booms this same year, although I like to disbud in the first year to support more growth and better flowering in the 2nd season
@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you for the information. I'll do that.
Steve
You are a wizard! 🧙
You so good at this thing...everytime its a win
Thank you very much for sharing ✂️🥀🌱🌹👍
Very impressive, given what you started with! Are vining roses done the same way? I have a rose that my father planted sometime before he passed in 1971, and would like to give a clone to my sister.
Yes, climbing roses are the same method
Plants are amazing, particularly roses. I’m planning on trying this.
I tried this before but the rose was not viable. Will try again though . Thanks for tips!💐
Hello. Roses are expensive so I think it’s worth to try and then have a garden full of roses.Thank you for sharing🌷
I'd like to see how many of these particular cuttings develop roots.
I had a shot towards the end of the video where I had de-potted all of them. Rooting was uneven, but all were past the callus stage - and most were well into rooting.
Ooooh! When I watched it to the end, I thought you said you grabbed one from another cutting to show the roots, not the ones from the bouquet. So in three weeks, 8/8 rooted? Do you plan to grow these out to see how to develop and bloom? I assume it takes a few years to get blooms. I haven't tried rooting cuttings, but I do want to try!
@@marydrew3568it doesn’t take years. I have cuttings from 2022 that flowered the next year in 2023. Granted it was only one flower lol but it did flower. I didn’t even notice it had a flower till after the flower had faded, otherwise I’d have cut it off to save the little guy from going to the trouble and wasting that energy on flowers when it should be branching and growing.
Love your informative videos - thank you! How long did it take for them to root ? My neighbour in the Netherlands used to do this and I thought she was crazy. Now I know I was the crazy one
@@christinewarnaar-bates3494 He showed them at 3 weeks.
Awesome video! And that idea of the inverted tupperware, wow! Im going to adapt it for sure!
Now can we root rose stems from the garden or bouquet in water?
If yes, how long will it take to root?
Hi Jason, I tried this method and my leaves are browning, so I’m wondering if I am watering too much? In your video you said that you misted every couple of days and that’s the only watering you provided?
Wait. The cut flower bouquet is suitable for home planting? I heard about they are for florists
Thanks for this video. I have terrible luck propagating from cuttings. I use coco peat, IBA 0.6% rooting hormone, and a humidity dome. After a couple of weeks of root formation the roots turn black and the root-up blackening happens - I'm guessing this is because coco peat holds up too much moisture. Any suggestions on what I could improve would be highly appreciated.
Sounds to me like you're on the right track with excess moisture. Mixing with coarse perlite may lighten it up a bit an keep more air around the roots. I like to get the temperature in the 20C/68F range or a little higher - bottom heat is ideal, but not necessary. I assume you have ventilation holes in the dome.
Cana Cocoa is alsome The other Coco has high salt content just to let you know
The stem looks dark is that still healthy to propagate? Thank you.
Thank you. New to gardening, do you water the soil/leaves/or the inside of the humidity dome please?
I do spray and check everyday or two to make sure the dome is maintaining some humidity/condensation
Instead of rooting hormones, can i use potato and honey? 🤔 doese rooting hormones necessary in this topic?
Rooting hormone speeds along the process, but if conditions are favorable roses can root without it. I wouldn't use potatoes or honey - they're not helpful
Can you leave them in the pot for a year before planting? Thank you for the video!
Yes, no problem.
So what about possible patent infringement? This looks like a classic case of plausible deniability since they were not marked. Can these be mass produced and sold?
This is more general rose propagation question. Many roses are grafted onto root stock. Clearly that won't happen when we propagare them. How much difference does that make with the success of the new plant?
It depends on the varieties involved. I grow primarily from cuttings, and while most everything thrives, there's a small handful of rose varieties that are weak on their own roots. Over the long term you won't have problems with rootstock suckers or the reduced lifespan associated with graft failure, but grafted roses sure establish much faster.
What are the dimensions of the pots you put the cuttings into?
3.5 inches across and maybe 4 inches deep. They definitely don't need to be that large though.
Thank you for another great lesson. Do you know which rose variety are these cutting roses sold in stores? Thanks
It varies a lot by region and store, but they're all pretty much from hybrid tea/florist rose breeding programs being grown (primarily) in central America if you're in the North American market.
Great. Video Was wondering If. You scraped a 1/2 inch of the stem Would it give you a bigger root face?
I usually don't bother. Here's my video on the topic: th-cam.com/video/MQVs2r4LE7I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-I4xUZqZm-6QRxU2
Help! I have a single cut rose I was given on my birthday! One of the nodes is growing new growth leaves already. How far below that should I cut? If I cut too short it’ll be deep in the dirt right? Should it be exposed?
Wow, wait so you got 100% success rate?! That's awesome. Great video!
Does rooting hormone go bad? I have some in my garage that is several years old. Should I buy fresh? How does forgoing rooting hormone affect the success rate? I put some cuttings in the ground with my Feb pruning but I didn't know about any of your tips, and didn't use my rooting hormone (I forgot it was there). Of the 10 or so, I think 3 might be successful.
Some info I've read says that it does lose efficacy over time, but I've never seen anything certain on the topic. How the hormone effects the rate depends on the plant. Some plants root easily on their own (willow, etc) so in that case it doesn't effect the rate at all. Others need a little more convincing. I find it speeds along rooting on roses enough to make a difference both in space efficiency (how often I can turn over the space I'm using for propagation) and overall success rate. I'd estimate that for average rose varieties it boosts my success rate (using semi-hardwood) from around 65 without to around 85% with
Can the rooting hormone be found in Home Depot? I want to keep fulsome of the flowers given to me from my mothers home going service this past weekend
I've seen it at hardware stores, but you'll have to check if it's at your local Home Depot... I'm not sure
Hi Jason, I am not having success with my stimroot #2 could it be too old or a dud batch or can I use # 3 for roses rodos etc. And can we cut the bud off or notch it above to force growth. I just discovered Clone X mist for propagation have you looked at that?
#3 is pretty good for rhodos, but probably a little strong for semi-hardwood roses. Another option is to take a small amount of the powder and dilute by half with unscented baby powder (talc) if you have it on hand.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Will keep that option in mind. Thanks.
I’ve grown 5 ‘baby roses’ from seeds I propagated from a rosehip. They are growing well, but only 2 have ‘branched out’ the others are getting very tall but only single stem. What would you recommend I do?
I see a lot of videos like this and thank you for the detail, but all fall short of next steps, seasons, locations etc. for becoming a mature plant - cutting all the way to mature flowering would be so, so helpful - thank you again for sharing - I’m a propagation novice, but finding it a necessary skill as the huge deer herds are decimating everything on our 2.3 acres, the herds are out of control as there are few natural predators which is upsetting the balance needed in natural habitats, with the exception of daffodils.
Thanks - it might be a little long for a single video, and to play Devil's advocate, once you've rooted them into a pot, there's really not much difference growing it to maturity and any other potted plant start. I do have some videos on the channel covering "next steps" though.
Which powder are you used ?
What are the leaves for?
I was given a bouquet and some already gave little nubs growing, will those survive even it still doesn’t have a root?
This comment is not related to this video, just picked the freshest video to connect with you Mr. Roses guy ;)
As I mentioned before this channel is one of the best if not the best in terms of TONS of free and extremely useful info.
I watched so many of your videos, some a few times and have a goal to watch ALL of them asap.
I just started gardening around 2 years ago with many many many mistakes (many done purposely with intention to learn). And I was so successful in such a short period of time that everything I plant grows like weed. As I was told that’s because I enjoy the process and put my heart into it.
So the question is this, if it wasn’t answered yet:
Starting a tiny backyard nursery on a 30ftx30ft backyard, what do you recommend to start with (as you said before: check the water with a tip of your finger).
There’s so much I want to do, there’s so many possibilities. Annuals, perennials, flowers, trees, bushes, vegetables etc etc.
I want to start with a small stock of basic veggie seedlings like tomato, cucumber, eggplant, squash etc and then continue with perennials like roses, grapes, flowers like lilacs etc. stuff that I enjoy and would want to have in my own garden. For me, only problem is SPACE SPACE SPACE.
So what’s your advice. What to start with in a very limited space?
PS I truly have a dream of quitting my good union job in NYC and move as far away from this chaotic city as possible to follow my farming/nursery dream on a few hundred acres of land. When I have money to do so ;)
Thanks. It totally makes sense to focus on the plants you're already passionate about and would grow for yourself - it makes the selling easier. Beyond that, my thoughts are to grow plants that strike the right balance of being unusual/unique enough that you're not competing directly on the same items with larger growers on price, but still well known or marketable enough to sell through. I made a rather dry video on the topic of plants to choose for your nursery a while back: th-cam.com/video/EKcUBRPspxQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=s_khbtQubyrsR0fe
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm HUGE THANKS for a reply. You’re right. Competing with Home Depot, Lawe’s etc (which are almost around the corner from me) is impossible. So choosing a “rare” way was my first and main idea, but how profitable can “rare plants” be? That’s why they are rare - not many every-day buyers buy them, for an exception of a few flower enthusiasts.
I’d still try this option first, because it’s the most logical, but still try a small percentage of common plants for this reason: I go to a big box store such as Home Depot and it truly hurts my heart to see the condition of their plants. I clearly understand it’s just business for them and they can’t give 2 shytes about their plants, but still, sad :(
I guess there’s no definite answer to my question and the only option is to experiment to see what’s gonna sell the best in this area.
Sadly, for annuals a single experiment takes whole year. That’s why this coming season I want to “try water” in several directions.
Already starting a bunch of perennials in my greenhouse such as roses, dwarf/semi-dwarf fruit trees etc., bunch of annuals, mostly veggies. Let’s see if I’m gonna be able to sell anything this year.
Again, huge thanks for a reply.
You can’t imagine how much joy each reply from such an experienced gardener as you are brings to a beginner like me.
I have seen some videos where some gardeners use 'aspirin (crushed & powdered) instead of 'growth hormone'. Is it ok to use 'aspirin' instead of growth hormone ??
Will they still root if you have cut all of the leaves off?
It's not proven to be effective
I wonder if these store bought roses would survive our Canadian winter.
My bet would be no. The breeding is focused on greenhouse production of cut flowers, and not at all focused on hardiness. I think they're mainly bred from hybrid teas, which aren't known for their cold tolerance.
Can I use miracle grow potting soil to root my rose cuttings
I'd just take a peak and see if the soil has fertilizer mixed in. I'd prefer a potting mix without fertilizer for initial rooting.
Just wondering how long does it take for it to produce flowers from that stage
My mom once needed the the rose buds from a bouquet. So I ripped off bottom leafs changed the water and stuck them in the full direct sun. 99% of them developed beautiful calluses over a period of a few months.
Nicely done!
The hormone paste were you get from
I tried doing that last year but l didn’t do it exactly the way you did so l am excited to try again! Cheers from Ottawa.
Once they get leaves and roots can you uncover them with the dome
hi! how do i care for them after propagating?
Pretty standard care for roses - hang around the channel and I'll keep posting vids on rose care.
Lol, I’m a member of a Facebook propagation group and there are so many that get excited to buy bouquets to hack up
No doubt. It's a question I hear all the time - there's definitely an interest.
"I Love Plant Propagation"? Mike's group?
How much light those cutting need during rooting? Also... Is it true that roses of different colours has different difficulty of rooting (with red being the easiest to root and white is the hardest)?
Bright indirect sun is fine - they don't need intense light. In my experience favorable temperatures and humidity play a larger role in how quickly they root. No, I haven't noted any straightforward correlation between flower color and ease of rooting.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you for the answer! I never managed to root a cutting in the soil - all always blackened and die, though rooting in water worked fine, if slow. Maybe excessive light to blame? Will see in spring.
I wish there are actually fragrant bouquet roses. All the roses grown at home on my tropical lowlands are scentless mini roses.
That'd be nice, but definitely not the focus of the breeding for greenhouse/florists roses.
I’ve actually , just once, had roses start rooting in the vase. I was completely perplexed and not sure how that was possible. I tried to plant it in my garden but it didn’t make it. Several of the cut roses had started growing roots though. So bizarre!
Great video! I am wondering if I can use perlite only to propagate the cuttings ? Or vermiculite only ? Which one is better?
I have one propagation that sucessfully developed some roots. It's currently in a perlite/soil mix. Should I repot in soil with less perlite or keep it there and wait for it to grow more roots?
I'd let it develop roots for now and move later.
At what point can you plant them outside in your garden and are most roses perennial? And last question will they flower the first year?( is it considered a mature plant or do you have to wait several years? Thank you so much, I’m going to try this for fun.
I transition them outdoors once rooted. Yes, they're naturally perennial shrubs, and will bloom in their first year once they're well rooted and in strong growth.
I have a bouquet from Mother's Day that is actually rooting on the vase, and growing new leaves, what would be the best course of action?
A gentle transition into soil if you want to keep it
Will a rose stem without leaves root?
They can, but it's usually faster if there are some leaves in place
Awe, I didn't get any roses for Valentine's or else they would all be chopped up right now! Shoot, maybe that's why I didnt! hahaha
Pretty amazing. Says a lot that you could pull this off. I would have thought treatment and chemicals used on most florist flowers would have made them a no go. On the other hand, they are successful at keeping them fresh.
Thank you for your superb content and willingness to help us grow more beautiful plants.
Was the soil wet when you planted? Did you water the soil at any stage of the process? Thank you!
The soil was moist. Mainly I just mist to maintain humidity, but if I see the soil drying out significantly, I'll add some water there too.
Do u have any updates or will u show when the leaves start to grow? I would LOVE to see that!
I am finding Hormodin 3 (0.8% IBA) more readily than Hormodin 2 (0.3% IBA). Would this work just as well?
It's a bit strong for the stage of growth. If you have unscented talcum powder around, you could "dilute" the 0.8 by half int the talc to make a more suitable concentration.
Thanks! That may be a good option. The only problem is that a lot of the baby powders here in the US are corn starch-based now (I don't know about Canada). I found pure talc powder, but it's an epoxy/resin additive. I guess it will probably work...
Thank you!!! This has been my winter project.. trial and error. I appreciate your videos very much ❤
Will these grow a rose bush?
Hi Jason, what are the odds that a random supermarket bouquet would be hardy to, say, Canadian Zone 5?
Is that kind of hardiness unlikely for mass-market imported roses? (There are plenty of nice roses that thrive in my area but I don't know if they represent only a small, hardy subset of the broader rose world.) Thank you for the video.
Good question. My impression is that the odds are low. Cold hardiness isn't something the breeders would have to concern themselves with much. I think the parentage leans heavily towards hybrid tea roses, which aren't the hardiest class overall.
8:07 how often you water them
While rooting I check the moisture level in the every day or two and usually all I have to do is mist the cuttings to maintain enough humidity
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thanks
Ok... Watched both recent Propagation videos. I just clipped a stem, (all my Roses are budding..) trimmed, dipped, and planted 6 cuttings from that Stem.
A thought occurred, can I also mix a little Hormone in the Soil? I couldn't find anything in a brief search..
Thanks
Steve
Hi Steve. No, the rooting powder is meant to be applied directly to the stem, and this in one of those cases where more isn't better, so a light dip then tap off the excess and directly into the potting mix
Such helpful information. I am excited at the possibility.
Would this same process work with other varieties of flowers? I received two beautiful bouquets. One had white/cream colored roses with hydrangeas and tiger lilies. They are absolutely beautiful.
Would you recommend this process right away? As you mentioned how these are grown in bulk in South America ? I don’t want to go shopping off the top of those beautiful roses just yet after having received them yesterday. 😊
I live in Central Alabama, where the weather usually gets quite warm and humid. Today being an exception where it’s in the 60s and raining. But we are expecting mid 80s by mid week with Sunshine.
Thank you for your time and valued advice.
Lots of varieties of perennials and shrubs are relatively easy with the same method. Have a look through my back catalogue of videos for specifics
excellent video like allways...thank you for teaching us new tricks..
You're a great teacher tysm. and wow only two months ago! Feel like I'm so early!
Hi Jason. Why do you cut right below a node?
It's the spot that's most likely to develop fast and vigorous rooting - something to do with bundles of undifferentiated tissues nearby the bud(s) at the node.
I’ve been trying to find a rose that is not just cut stems it goes by the trade name grey knight is there anyway you might be able to tell me the true name and type of
Grey Knights is the true name. A recent introduction by De Ruiter's www.deruiter.com
Thank you. I’ve still yet be able to find the plants only cut stems
Thank you for the info! You're a wealth of knowledge.
Doesn't pushing in the stem actually remove the rooting powder, I always thought one used something like a pencil as a dibber and firmed the soil lightly to hold it. But looking at your good results maybe not!
The rooting powder is formulated with sticking and handling in mind, if anything most amateur growers put *too thick* a layer of powder onto the stem. A thin coating is fine, even if you lose a little to handling.
The hybrid roses are usually grafted, aren't they?
That would be a problem for sustained growth, wouldn't it?
Good question. It's quite mixed these days, with some roses being offered as both grafted and own-root - depending on the preferences of the gardener. Many of the newer hybrids are bred with strong own-root performance as one of the goals. It's not as simple as saying grafted roses perform better than own-root in any case. The grafted sometimes get an early lead in development, while own-root roses are often longer-lived and never have the problem of rootstock suckers.
The problem with this is living in northern states, zone 5, you may be able to propagate a rose but it won't survive the winter if it's for zone let's say 7 or 6. You don't know what variety they really are.
True. A fun project, but there's no guarantee that what you end up with will be usable in your climate - many are bred for greenhouse culture, and may not make good garden roses (even if you were in California!)
How can you do this without hormone powder?
The rooting powder speeds things along, but I've done it without as well, and in good conditions I've still had decent results
If v take cuttings in early spring and try to root them from my own garden, cud that work? I did plant some before winter, looks like some of these are showing signs of growth, but not sure if they started rooting as well…will wait and see…
Sure, early spring is a fine time to try.
I see you were credited with a photo on Garden Answer this morning 👍.
Beautiful, great root development.
Thank You for sharing, I did not know this...😮❤🌹
So I left my neglected Valentine rose in water and tonight I went to throw it out I realized there's new leaves and actually a flower bud. Should I take that out of the water and do the root hormone in put it in soil?
Might be worth a try!
Love your content! Thanks so much for all the great info.
Do you wet your soul prior to inserting the cuttings? Or is it dry soil? If it’s dry soil do you just mist the top of the soil after inserting the cuttings?
The soil is moist at the time of sticking
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Hi there! Dont need to give them water?
The soil I use starts moist, and I top up only as needed to maintain moisture.