Karma. Yes, Todd was wrong for the way he chose to punish Blair. But she ONLY slept with Patrick because she wanted to punish Marty. Karma expects for you to pay your debt. I blame Blair because she should have mourned the memory of her husband without using her P***y, and further more, i understand loneliness; but Patrick should not have been the one, if she had to, it should have been someone else.
Dorian should butt out but she has a point: Todd does need a therapist and some major psychopharmacology! Wish he'd let the loss of Blair lead to greater change in his ways but he's especially self defeating with women. He loses Blair a few times due to the kidnapping and the bombing, 2 betrayals and 2 ill conceived schemes, he loses Marty when he rapes her and he loses Tea because of a complex lie (and then again because he doesn't sleep with her). He's so often his own worst enemy!
Love kelly really started the honest clapping she was always such a big supporter of tnb until they turned her into dorian jr when blair learned todd was her unborn sons dad. Tnb were so mature when he proposed on the plane where he promised " if i have a feeling im gonna share it w/ my wife " & how he was ginna grab on to her & hold on & never let her go. Blair also promised never to lie to him ever again. Sad after ireland todd said it best to viki " the truth was never blairs strong suit & trust was never mine " so sad & so true. I get todd seeing blair on the carpet w/ patrick the guy he lost almost a year of his life for who just zipped off w/ todd s passport & only used blair for sex. Knowing she was a devastated widow w/ a baby. He saw how sad she was. He waited til they banged 2x to very meanly dump her while mooning over patrick. Why 2 beautiful smart rich women like marty & blair could fight over some broke poet who worked at a stable & wasnt even a full time professor he taught like one poerty class. As soon as dylan bowed out gracefully patrick atarted living at martys & his only story was obsessing over blairs baby. That was all done so marty & todd were again in eachothers orbits. Then when they were this close to a reunion when brendan bit the dust which btw todd never consudered telling her he died even got mad at marty when she finally lost it. So the unborn jack thing as horrible as what todd did why why why didn't she tell him??? She planned to never ever tell him it was his child this trying to marry max who called it off. Yet that midwife had maxs number & knew he was " el babys papa"
In some fantasy, alternate s/l, Blair ran away with Jack. But in the actual s/l, TnB reunited. She had lied, and had also considered escape plans partially because of Todd's 2 vengeful betrayals (re: Max and re: Asa). She knew how readily he'd betray her. Also, he had, in anger, kidnapped Starr before and recently kept her from Starr twice again. She told Sam, Kelly, Bo and Starr, that she lied out of fear that Todd would take Jack. (Added note: Todd planned to leave the country with Starr after he kidnapped her. At least Blair's plans to run were made out of fear whereas his plans were vengeful.)
I recall him begging her to tell him the pregnancy was a scam. B4 she learned she was " 4 months pregnant " yet a dr said um ur not even through your 1st trimester. How can a 40 year old woman pregnant 4x not realize she was pregnant. Todd was willing to go to prison got blair off of attempted murder charges then he even lived w/ her starr & a pregnant blair. 2x they almost kissed & said " the baby kicks all the time" todd only finally took starr after blair decided to marry dead beat max. She was never gonna tell him btw tea sux too she knew todd was possibly danis dad & never told him. These 2 wives used todd as an atm & sperm donor. All todd wanted was a woman who told the truth & had a family with. Blaor was free b/c of todd & had 7 lomg months to say " its ur baby todd " & " if u don't believe me I'll do a dna test " instead w/ jack she was planning to never tell him not even through pushing again she said to kelly " todd will be so happy about this all he wanted was starr & a little boy " ugh even if blaor had a girl todd would have been thrilled. We finally saw the manning as a family & they were great & blair always knew todd loved his kids. Tea & blair both got pregnant ( i guess todd was more mature in college as he told hank he always used condoms ) with blair they made starr as a choice. With jack i guess b.c went out the window & he & tea were on a island. How sad todd had 3 kids & missed all their births & jack , blaor never spit out he's urs todd! She even gave that midwife maxs number as the " papa" ugh. Then todd returns jack treats him like garbage syarr needed to hear from a recording he was the real victor & dani should have only been 8 when he returned & had learned 2 men already were her dad's. Plus I'll never forgive blair for accepting some " twin" was todd when viki & jesse always sensed something was off. Tina & viki & jesse cane through vik8 bailed him out b4 even a dna test took him home til the end to live w her even coveted him w/ a blanket & stroked his head as he slept. Todds true ride or die. Yet tomas admitted he beat todd & delivered him to the cia to be tortured electrocuted drugged for 8 years & blaor forgave that as well as tea. Plus victor tea & victor were horrible patents to starr jack & dani. Starr got pregnant at q5 dani was a boarding school brat while tea was getting laid constantly by " todd" & the younger jack threw a plate saying his mom ignored him & " dad" only cares about himself & tea & dani. How sad.
@@nattyps3160 Blair often told Kelly and Sam that she was afraid Todd would take Jack so she lied. She also told Bo and Starr that she lied out of fear. She even has an extended nightmare fantasy about it. And she did tell Todd about Jack. The fact that Blair was willing to go away, leaving every single person she loves, (incl. both Starr and Addy!), speaks clearly to a high level of fear!
@@nattyps3160 6 Points: 1) You say, "All Todd wanted was a woman who told the truth." But all Todd wanted, for many years, was Blair even though he knew how much she lied. He proposed 8x. Called her "the perfect woman" and ended up with her. *2) Talk about "ride or die". Todd specifically wanted Blair to save his life and she did. "Youre the one. I know that you care about me.", he said. Such a deep connection to her and great trust in her. *3) Even Vicki, who knew her brother better than Blair in some ways, and whom she loved more than her own kids, accepted that Victor was Todd for many years. *4) Starr turned out to be a well adjusted, loving adult in spite of Todd's long absence from her. *5) You say, "Blair was free b/c of Todd". BUT HE'S THE ONE who, in a childish fit of jealousy, risked her freedom to begin with! 6) Todd vengefully planned to leave the country with Starr. Blair fearfully planned to leave the country with Jack. Revenge is a far sicker excuse than fear..
@@marcelparker6755 And he's the only one who would be that callous about her feelings. Sociopathic or narcissistic? He's funny but he's a sick puppy. Some of the things he does to people, including the women; are just deplorable.
@izzatluv Best part is I think What we all have been praying for is coming to pass. The other day Jess was mentioning "Rhfactor" in regards to her baby. The other week Florencia's Tea screeched "you are not Todd Manning!!"" I'm pretty sure the show is giving out hints...although I've been blasted by the younger veiwers (tsj fans) about it. I think FL will come back she's doing a play right now. I'm pretty sure RH is on his way back!! I hope!!!
@bjujubee Yes, I just hope if this is all true, that the writers are able to do this story the justice it deserves. I wonder how evil REAL TODD will be this time around? I wonder what will become of Podd. Moreover, I wonder how Roger and Trevor will get along? If this is true that RH is returning it's gonna be a blast!!!! :) :) I'm also wondering if this wasn't in the works when Florencia came back . Any thoughts?
@bjujubee I do believe you're right on the money, JUJU! Now we know why some people have left in recent months. Oh and have you noticed PODD always calls Tea- by her first name -- never "Delgado"? He also says sweetie alot which REAL TODD would never do not even as a MATURE TODD. Unless he was being sarcastic , of course. lol. Seems that fate or planetary alignments are lining up right now. I guess actors have famiies and bills to pay just like the rest of us.
@bjujubee I won't LOL!! Happy! Happy! Joy ! Joy! :) :) :) Wee, he's coming back home whoppee!! I still miss Moose though. That bird (both of them ) were better actors than most of the cast on there now.
Karma. Yes, Todd was wrong for the way he chose to punish
Blair. But she ONLY slept with Patrick because she wanted to punish Marty. Karma expects for you to pay your debt. I blame Blair because she should have mourned the memory of her husband without using her P***y, and further more, i understand loneliness; but Patrick should not have been the one, if she had to, it should have been someone else.
""I came back to MY life and somebody else was living it!""
Oh, my, how ironic --and fitting for the present day. :) :)
Dorian should butt out but she has a point: Todd does need a therapist and some major psychopharmacology! Wish he'd let the loss of Blair lead to greater change in his ways but he's especially self defeating with women. He loses Blair a few times due to the kidnapping and the bombing, 2 betrayals and 2 ill conceived schemes, he loses Marty when he rapes her and he loses Tea because of a complex lie (and then again because he doesn't sleep with her). He's so often his own worst enemy!
Love kelly really started the honest clapping she was always such a big supporter of tnb until they turned her into dorian jr when blair learned todd was her unborn sons dad. Tnb were so mature when he proposed on the plane where he promised " if i have a feeling im gonna share it w/ my wife " & how he was ginna grab on to her & hold on & never let her go. Blair also promised never to lie to him ever again. Sad after ireland todd said it best to viki " the truth was never blairs strong suit & trust was never mine " so sad & so true. I get todd seeing blair on the carpet w/ patrick the guy he lost almost a year of his life for who just zipped off w/ todd s passport & only used blair for sex. Knowing she was a devastated widow w/ a baby. He saw how sad she was. He waited til they banged 2x to very meanly dump her while mooning over patrick. Why 2 beautiful smart rich women like marty & blair could fight over some broke poet who worked at a stable & wasnt even a full time professor he taught like one poerty class. As soon as dylan bowed out gracefully patrick atarted living at martys & his only story was obsessing over blairs baby. That was all done so marty & todd were again in eachothers orbits. Then when they were this close to a reunion when brendan bit the dust which btw todd never consudered telling her he died even got mad at marty when she finally lost it. So the unborn jack thing as horrible as what todd did why why why didn't she tell him??? She planned to never ever tell him it was his child this trying to marry max who called it off. Yet that midwife had maxs number & knew he was " el babys papa"
In some fantasy, alternate s/l, Blair ran away with Jack. But in the actual s/l, TnB reunited. She had lied, and had also considered escape plans partially because of Todd's 2 vengeful betrayals (re: Max and re: Asa). She knew how readily he'd betray her. Also, he had, in anger, kidnapped Starr before and recently kept her from Starr twice again. She told Sam, Kelly, Bo and Starr, that she lied out of fear that Todd would take Jack. (Added note: Todd planned to leave the country with Starr after he kidnapped her. At least Blair's plans to run were made out of fear whereas his plans were vengeful.)
I recall him begging her to tell him the pregnancy was a scam. B4 she learned she was " 4 months pregnant " yet a dr said um ur not even through your 1st trimester. How can a 40 year old woman pregnant 4x not realize she was pregnant. Todd was willing to go to prison got blair off of attempted murder charges then he even lived w/ her starr & a pregnant blair. 2x they almost kissed & said " the baby kicks all the time" todd only finally took starr after blair decided to marry dead beat max. She was never gonna tell him btw tea sux too she knew todd was possibly danis dad & never told him. These 2 wives used todd as an atm & sperm donor. All todd wanted was a woman who told the truth & had a family with. Blaor was free b/c of todd & had 7 lomg months to say " its ur baby todd " & " if u don't believe me I'll do a dna test " instead w/ jack she was planning to never tell him not even through pushing again she said to kelly " todd will be so happy about this all he wanted was starr & a little boy " ugh even if blaor had a girl todd would have been thrilled. We finally saw the manning as a family & they were great & blair always knew todd loved his kids. Tea & blair both got pregnant ( i guess todd was more mature in college as he told hank he always used condoms ) with blair they made starr as a choice. With jack i guess b.c went out the window & he & tea were on a island. How sad todd had 3 kids & missed all their births & jack , blaor never spit out he's urs todd! She even gave that midwife maxs number as the " papa" ugh. Then todd returns jack treats him like garbage syarr needed to hear from a recording he was the real victor & dani should have only been 8 when he returned & had learned 2 men already were her dad's. Plus I'll never forgive blair for accepting some " twin" was todd when viki & jesse always sensed something was off. Tina & viki & jesse cane through vik8 bailed him out b4 even a dna test took him home til the end to live w her even coveted him w/ a blanket & stroked his head as he slept. Todds true ride or die. Yet tomas admitted he beat todd & delivered him to the cia to be tortured electrocuted drugged for 8 years & blaor forgave that as well as tea. Plus victor tea & victor were horrible patents to starr jack & dani. Starr got pregnant at q5 dani was a boarding school brat while tea was getting laid constantly by " todd" & the younger jack threw a plate saying his mom ignored him & " dad" only cares about himself & tea & dani. How sad.
@@nattyps3160 Blair often told Kelly and Sam that she was afraid Todd would take Jack so she lied. She also told Bo and Starr that she lied out of fear. She even has an extended nightmare fantasy about it. And she did tell Todd about Jack. The fact that Blair was willing to go away, leaving every single person she loves, (incl. both Starr and Addy!), speaks clearly to a high level of fear!
@@nattyps3160 6 Points: 1) You say, "All Todd wanted was a woman who told the truth." But all Todd wanted, for many years, was Blair even though he knew how much she lied. He proposed 8x. Called her "the perfect woman" and ended up with her. *2) Talk about "ride or die". Todd specifically wanted Blair to save his life and she did. "Youre the one. I know that you care about me.", he said. Such a deep connection to her and great trust in her. *3) Even Vicki, who knew her brother better than Blair in some ways, and whom she loved more than her own kids, accepted that Victor was Todd for many years. *4) Starr turned out to be a well adjusted, loving adult in spite of Todd's long absence from her. *5) You say, "Blair was free b/c of Todd". BUT HE'S THE ONE who, in a childish fit of jealousy, risked her freedom to begin with! 6) Todd vengefully planned to leave the country with Starr. Blair fearfully planned to leave the country with Jack. Revenge is a far sicker excuse than fear..
Todd: Blair I need you.
Dorian: What you need is a therapist and some major psycopharmology. ROFL!
My thought's exactly.
omg this is pretty bad
* well, i brought her back, that's gotta mean something*. haha i shldnt have laughed, but i did!
Lol only Todd would make that line funny
@@marcelparker6755 And he's the only one who would be that callous about her feelings. Sociopathic or narcissistic? He's funny but he's a sick puppy. Some of the things he does to people, including the women; are just deplorable.
@izzatluv Best part is I think What we all have been praying for is coming to pass. The other day Jess was mentioning "Rhfactor" in regards to her baby. The other week Florencia's Tea screeched "you are not Todd Manning!!""
I'm pretty sure the show is giving out hints...although I've been blasted by the younger veiwers (tsj fans) about it.
I think FL will come back she's doing a play right now.
I'm pretty sure RH is on his way back!! I hope!!!
@bjujubee Yes, I just hope if this is all true, that the writers are able to do this story the justice it deserves.
I wonder how evil REAL TODD will be this time around? I wonder what will become of Podd. Moreover, I wonder how Roger and Trevor will get along?
If this is true that RH is returning it's gonna be a blast!!!! :) :)
I'm also wondering if this wasn't in the works when Florencia came back . Any thoughts?
@bjujubee I do believe you're right on the money, JUJU! Now we know why some people have left in recent months. Oh and have you noticed PODD always calls Tea- by her first name -- never "Delgado"? He also says sweetie alot which REAL TODD would never do not even as a MATURE TODD. Unless he was being sarcastic , of course. lol.
Seems that fate or planetary alignments are lining up right now. I guess actors have famiies and bills to pay just like the rest of us.
LMAO Todd needs some major psycho pharmacology!
@bjujubee I won't LOL!!
Happy! Happy! Joy ! Joy! :) :) :)
Wee, he's coming back home whoppee!!
I still miss Moose though. That bird (both of them ) were better actors than most of the cast on there now.
I was LMAO too!
@pitbullwinkle Ooooo I like that one!