Why do you assume that there only two tribes in Zimbabwe?Why do you even talk about it?You need to be reminded that in so called Matebeleland there are Vendas,Tongas,Nambyas and Kalangas.There are also Shangaan and Chewa people in some parts of Zim
Mina am Sotho mthwakazi means all those tribes have you ever went to their events Their are fighting for everyone’s language and culture wena maybe you don’t know unless you are not Matebele so yah you don’t know anything
Good afternoon Cde NN Mabhena. I hope you are well. I don't think the current written Shona language in it's form is inclusive. Myself as Karanga, I want Karanga language to be independent. Shona language must be de-colonised. Thank you very much
Salibonani baba mabhena okhulumayo ngu mawesi sibanda ngisa cela ukwazi ukuthi ama permit kucina nini uku a Play ngoba asikatholi ama waiver ngiyabonga
You people from matebeleland should which Shona tribe committed that gukurahundi massacre for which you hate us so much. It's the shonas from the Karanga tribe and some few Zezurus who committed the genocide not the manyikas, Rozwi and the Ndau
I think we should not say it's Shonas who committed genocide in Matebeleland coz it was not ordinary people from Mashonaland But it was some one in power who used Military to crush people based on their tribe and created the system to marginalize a certain Tribe which we still see today
Its interesting that south africans refused to accept ndebele nation from Zimbabwe who are formally south african at the same time Ndebele people are not happy to Zimbabwean.
Most Matebele people love zim so much but there is some issues and injustice thing happened and happening so we are allowed to Advocate for that but my friend 😅😅 that’s internet for you it will make you believe that South Africans don’t accept they actually love each other WENA 😂😂especially in Europe I’ve see them groving and trust me weird they are the same from behaviour that Ubuntu thing bahle bayathandana issue is the ones causing problems just be legal and follow the rules youl be fine
Try to talk about Zimbabwean matters without involving South Africa for a change. Zimbabwean Ndebeles of Mzilikazi are Zimbabwean citizens and the solely the responsibility of the Zimbabwean government, South African Ndebeles are of King Ndzundza two completely diffent ciltures dialects. You cannot not accept each other in your own coutry and expect tribes in other countries to accept you.
@@Masingita9379 kanti who wants to be accepted to who vele People from the outside think that because ABASAZI YOU GUYS DONT KNOW US KAHLE KAHLE VELE but most matebele people we are just living our lives we are who we are Mina am Sotho from one of the tribes in matebeleLAND I don’t want to be South African but am not naive to ignore that my family and ancestors are also in Transvaal Simply nje ke mosadi wa mosotho from Matebeleland in ZIMBABWE
For some reason, you conveniently choose to undermine the role of tribalism in Zimbabwe's socioeconomic and political dynamics, while explaining issues.
@@jamesgordonphiri362 that's what you are saying, and I am not. I made it clear in my argument that tribalism is a huge factor in Zimbabwe and Mabhena is underestimating it, conveniently. I never pointed a finger at any culprits, did I?
Batswana from Botswana are not forcing themselves on us. You ate your “Breadbasket” moments alone to yourselves and you did not think about that . Fix your mess and stop being part of our mess in SA.
Stop talking about Zanu. You will never be objective because you hate the party.I have never heard you criticizing Nkomo.He was not a perfect leader. No one is.Your love for him and your hatred for Zanu blinds you.Nkomo had his own shortcomings and weaknesses.Kamuzu Banda described him as a spineless leader and Julius Nyerere did not like him.When Mozambique got independent,Samora Machel approached him first to set up bases in his country,but Nkomo dragged his feet.Zanu quickly grabbed the opportunity and ended up spearbeading the struggle.Zimbabwe was taken from the East
@@adams6798 Zimbabwean Borders are a legacy of colonialism. You might as well ask is Coltart a British or Zimbabwean or even ask Mabhena if he is South African or Zimbabwean Was Mugabe right to chase whites from farms surnames like Smith,Campbell,Coltart,Norman,...are not Zimbabwean?
@@jamesgordonphiri362 But of course maybe you naturalized or your parents came as immigrants to Zimbabwe during Rhodesia era. The example you gave is different of Mabhena because they came very long time ago early 1800 some mid 1700. Where are your parents or grandparents from? If not from Zimbabwe then you are technically from Malawi be proud of your roots.
@@adams6798 Zimbabwe was born in 1980.Before that it was Rhodesia and before it was Rhodesia it did not exist as a country My martenal grandparents are Shona,my partenal grandfather came to Rhodesia in the 60s and my martenal grandma was a Kalanga from Plumtree.My dad was born in Rhodesia in 1965 and my mother,was a Shona.Although i can not read or write Ndebele,i almost fluent.Shona is my first language.I was born in Chinhoyi
Why do you assume that there only two tribes in Zimbabwe?Why do you even talk about it?You need to be reminded that in so called Matebeleland there are Vendas,Tongas,Nambyas and Kalangas.There are also Shangaan and Chewa people in some parts of Zim
Mina am Sotho mthwakazi means all those tribes have you ever went to their events
Their are fighting for everyone’s language and culture wena maybe you don’t know unless you are not Matebele so yah you don’t know anything
Good afternoon Cde NN Mabhena. I hope you are well. I don't think the current written Shona language in it's form is inclusive. Myself as Karanga, I want Karanga language to be independent. Shona language must be de-colonised. Thank you very much
That is the great point
Thankyou the story is almost clear and inviting but i dont see the ground to beggin the theprocess of removing zanuclarify that
Salibonani baba mabhena okhulumayo ngu mawesi sibanda ngisa cela ukwazi ukuthi ama permit kucina nini uku a Play ngoba asikatholi ama waiver ngiyabonga
Mntungwa Mbuduma ndikothulela umnqwazi mhlekazi
@@sindileakhonto am humbled
BS, building a vanguard in other people’s houses.
You people from matebeleland should which Shona tribe committed that gukurahundi massacre for which you hate us so much. It's the shonas from the Karanga tribe and some few Zezurus who committed the genocide not the manyikas, Rozwi and the Ndau
@@obediahrussellmubaiwa3330 Enos Nkala was a Ndebele
I think we should not say it's Shonas who committed genocide in Matebeleland coz it was not ordinary people from Mashonaland
But it was some one in power who used Military to crush people based on their tribe and created the system to marginalize a certain
Tribe which we still see today
Its interesting that south africans refused to accept ndebele nation from Zimbabwe who are formally south african at the same time Ndebele people are not happy to Zimbabwean.
Most Matebele people love zim so much but there is some issues and injustice thing happened and happening so we are allowed to Advocate for that but my friend 😅😅 that’s internet for you it will make you believe that South Africans don’t accept they actually love each other WENA 😂😂especially in Europe I’ve see them groving and trust me weird they are the same from behaviour that Ubuntu thing bahle bayathandana issue is the ones causing problems just be legal and follow the rules youl be fine
Try to talk about Zimbabwean matters without involving South Africa for a change. Zimbabwean Ndebeles of Mzilikazi are Zimbabwean citizens and the solely the responsibility of the Zimbabwean government, South African Ndebeles are of King Ndzundza two completely diffent ciltures dialects. You cannot not accept each other in your own coutry and expect tribes in other countries to accept you.
@@Masingita9379 kanti who wants to be accepted to who vele
People from the outside think that because ABASAZI YOU GUYS DONT KNOW US KAHLE KAHLE VELE but most matebele people we are just living our lives we are who we are Mina am Sotho from one of the tribes in matebeleLAND I don’t want to be South African but am not naive to ignore that my family and ancestors are also in Transvaal
Simply nje ke mosadi wa mosotho from Matebeleland in ZIMBABWE
For some reason, you conveniently choose to undermine the role of tribalism in Zimbabwe's socioeconomic and political dynamics, while explaining issues.
@@lukesibanda8332 are we saying Shonas voting for Mugabe was tribalism and Ndebeles voting for Nkomo was not?
@@jamesgordonphiri362 that's what you are saying, and I am not. I made it clear in my argument that tribalism is a huge factor in Zimbabwe and Mabhena is underestimating it, conveniently. I never pointed a finger at any culprits, did I?
Batswana from Botswana are not forcing themselves on us. You ate your “Breadbasket” moments alone to yourselves and you did not think about that . Fix your mess and stop being part of our mess in SA.
@@collinphahlane7527 why are you even replying to me? Are you well?
Stop talking about Zanu. You will never be objective because you hate the party.I have never heard you criticizing Nkomo.He was not a perfect leader. No one is.Your love for him and your hatred for Zanu blinds you.Nkomo had his own shortcomings and weaknesses.Kamuzu Banda described him as a spineless leader and Julius Nyerere did not like him.When Mozambique got independent,Samora Machel approached him first to set up bases in his country,but Nkomo dragged his feet.Zanu quickly grabbed the opportunity and ended up spearbeading the struggle.Zimbabwe was taken from the East
Are you Zimbabwean or Malawian? Phiri is not a Zimbabwean language.
@@adams6798 Zimbabwean
Borders are a legacy of colonialism. You might as well ask is Coltart a British or Zimbabwean or even ask Mabhena if he is South African or Zimbabwean
Was Mugabe right to chase whites from farms surnames like Smith,Campbell,Coltart,Norman,...are not Zimbabwean?
@@jamesgordonphiri362
But of course maybe you naturalized or your parents came as immigrants to Zimbabwe during Rhodesia era.
The example you gave is different of Mabhena because they came very long time ago early 1800 some mid 1700.
Where are your parents or grandparents from? If not from Zimbabwe then you are technically from Malawi be proud of your roots.
@@adams6798 Zimbabwe was born in 1980.Before that it was Rhodesia and before it was Rhodesia it did not exist as a country
My martenal grandparents are Shona,my partenal grandfather came to Rhodesia in the 60s and my martenal grandma was a Kalanga from Plumtree.My dad was born in Rhodesia in 1965 and my mother,was a Shona.Although i can not read or write Ndebele,i almost fluent.Shona is my first language.I was born in Chinhoyi
@@adams6798 I am neither proud nor ashamed.Its nothing to be proud of and at the same time nothing to be ashamed of.All human beings are equal