Ive owned my Rubicon for about 2 years now (2018 tho) and I fucking love it. Changing the oil? Easy as fuck. Repairs? Easy as fuck. My prior vehicle, a Honda, you needed to change a headlight bulb...you had to remove the entire front bumper, passenger side wheel, etc. The Jeep is a THOUSAND times more practical. Speaking of which, I was driving somewhere today, and wound up on a muddy, wet, uphill road. In my Honda, I would have been stuck...incapable of going anywhere. With the Jeep? Dropped it into 4L, cruised right on up that steep muddy road with ease. I'm hooked for LIFE. 👌
We bought ours in 2011....it's been great. Looks brand new too. We're afraid to trade it in for a new wrangler because we know a few people with 2020-2022's having lot's of issues.
I have an 08 JKU and completely agree. I look at all this new tech in the new ones and find so many failure points. I could imagine seriously offroading it for fear of damaging it and ending up with an expensive repair bill. My 08 is very simple and reliable.
Wranglers are really cool vehicles and I'd really like to own one, but I can't wrap my head around 70k plus for a Rubicon that is meant for off roading. Given all the trade offs I'm considering a two door Willy's as an extra vehicle instead of having a Rubicon as my daily driver. Just a crazy expense unless I go bare bones and mod it out in my opinion.
Bought a 2019 Wrangler sport and super reliable. No issues, just basic maintenance and the car runs beautifully. Traded it in for a 2024 Jeep Wrangler Altitude with the one touch sky roof, I fucking love it.
11:00 yep all we want is a cherokee XJ, without any changes to it except to make it a little safer and faster. that's it. maybe even an electric version. not sure why jeep can't figure it out.
First, I agree 392 and all JL's are expensive and it's crazy what's happened to the market. 2nd, you state (at the 8:10 mark) that it needs everything on for traction off road and that's it's "horrible offroad". You must have something wrong with your BLD or you're not unlocking sway bar, or ??? The JK started the generation of BLD and it was good then and even better in the JL. My JLUR (as seen on my channel jeepNdirt) on 4.5 inches of lift and 38's almost never has the lockers turned on unless I really get stuck or approach rocks larger than the approach angle of my 38's. 3rd you mentioned it's "too loud" for everyday commute. I tell folks all the time, the JL as compared to previous generations i.e. LJ, TJ, YJ, CJ is far quieter. Yes loud if you're comparing to a full interior vehicle like that mustang or truck, or any other car with ton's of insulation and not convertible, but generally speaking at 85 mph in my soft top JLUR on 38's (as seen on my channel) doesn't prevent me from having a normal conversation with anyone in my jeep. Yes it's not exactly quiet on the inside like riding in a regular car but it's not so bad that I'd tell anyone I wouldn't recommend it for daily driving. In terms of taking it off-road, it's a jeep. It's made to go off-road. Why are people so scared to go off road and use the classic statement " I'm afraid I'll mess something up". Come on enjoy it, enjoy the outdoors, enjoy all these natural resources. You only live once. Lol. As for your question on what you should get. I'd say neither of your two options. If you're going to actually be a jeep guy and actually use it, then get a Sport S with an option package that get's you some of the interior features that come on the Rubicon, strip out drive line and install aftermarket Dana 44 up front and the teraflex CRD 60 in the rear, get the 3.6 V6 with the incredible 8 speed auto and 5.13 gears, lift it 4.5 inches and then throw some 39's with Metalcloak control arms to include the new DB3 rear brackets, Adams drive shafts, LoD Destroyer rear bumper with tire carrier, stubby front bumpers, Steersmart steering components, then go out and enjoy it knowing you still spent less than buying a stock rubicon or even the 392 assuming you do the work yourself. Lol. Good stuff man.
I love my 392. I daily drive it and have 15k miles. It is a great do it all vehicle for me. Stupid acceleration like a muscle car. I can throw kids in back. It has just enough touch of lux to be comfy, but not so nice that I'd get upset with kids for leaving Happy Meal trash and coloring on my headrest. It has great looks and lowest depreciating vehicle you can buy. It isn't as plush and quiet as a bland CUV and that is exactly why I bought it. I wanted a truck with some character and not just a commuting appliance.
Jeeps are expensive toys. They aren’t practical and they’ve become enormously expensive. Serious off roading requires a significant financial investment. That’s why most Jeeps are never taken off road. I agree with comparing them to Range Rovers. Jeeps have transitioned into status symbols due to their cost. Modified TJ’s & JK’s make more financial sense for those that want to off road their Jeeps. Jeeps aren’t practical but they’re fun. I’m on my third Jeep. I recently replaced my TJ with a JK. I searched for months to find a one owner, locally owned, low milage JK in showroom condition. A new Jeep would have cost me about $25,000 more than I paid for the JK I purchased. Buying a used Jeep requires some knowledge of Jeeps and that definitely requires a through inspection by a qualified mechanic before finalizing the purchase too. Most Jeeps are secondary vehicles that have never been off road, so buying a used Jeep isn’t any more risky than buying any used car. The potential savings is worth buying used, IMO.
Luv my 392. I’ve had 3 other jeeps(77 CJ-7, 76 CJ-5 and an 81 CJ-5). If you’ve owned a Jeep in the past you will not complain about anything with the 392, besides price. Honestly a Subaru or AWD crossover would probably be a better fit for most people.
Tell me which insurance company you use and in what state? Your insurance rate for the rubicon is great! Also I totally agree with you on the pricing. It's ridiculous! I love my paint too much to take a vehicle that expensive off-roading, as much as I dying to go off-roading. I may just get an older, reliable model in good condition for that purpose.
I have State Farm and it costs me $1600/yr for a $70k+ Rubicon. And that’s with a clean record and all the bundling discounts. If you go with a “discount” insurance company and the lowest coverage possible, you can also be at or below $1k/yr. But good luck if something happens. At that point might as well not bother with insurance at all and save yourself the $1k 😂
@@DuckMeTV I also have State Farm with a squeaky clean record, but it's costing me more than that and that's why I asked which US state are you paying that amount? Maybe it's a different state.
Cool, I really like my 22 model, 392. Let me know if you want to sell your wheels and tires! Yeah the seats are cool , I agree. I put a Hellwig sway bar on the rear and it fixes that sway from side to side. You might want to try one. Glad you like you Jeep, Liked and subscribed, best, Chuck.
Had a 2019 Wrangler Sport. Loved it but wanted more power and got a 2020 Mustang GT. High inflation due do the current whats its face in office, insurance and gas sky high so got rid of it for a 2022 Colorado Z71. So far im happy with it. So to your question,, yes its fun owning a wrangler but they are not worth the price they are asking for them.
Avoid it like the plague. Anything higher than 65 mph and hello death wobble. Didnt elevate it. Didnt get bigger tires. Just factory settings and.....death wobble. And get this, the rep at chrysler jeep said there is no proper fix. Still waiting 2 months for the back order steering damper that supposedly might help. I own a 2022 Jeep Wrangler. Yep 2022 smh.
Love it! You should also give financial advice. I would just like to own a Jeep Willys and can't. You're clearly doing something right or your in debt like a mutha'. Thanks for sharing l with us that don't know. Love your videos!
Hey, I saved up 14k and put that down on my 21' 2 door willys. Took me several years, but with such a huge amount down, I pay 300 per month. 2 more years, and it's paid off.
@@BenHardyCars Congratulations! Seriously! Happy you're doing well and I enjoy the vids. Still though...would love to know how you do it sans the YT vids. Cheers!
@@rangermark-npsnevada9316 Sweet man! Good for you! Thanks! What engine transmission set up did you go with? Any thoughts on the manual? turbo vs 6? What features did you go for? I wish you cold get the Gorilla glass and the non carpeted waterproof floors like you can in the 4 doors.
@shmac96 automatic 8 speed transmission. German design and high efficiency 2.0 turbo 4 cylinder. I installed an oil catch can and installed a bigger intake pipe. The 2 door willys comes with waterproof rubber Mat and limited slip differential
Friend recommended front mud flaps since I was having the same problem with rear fenders. Made a huge difference on my Rubicon. Just get the wider option. Huge difference 😊
That’s a great car too. Still the wrangler should depreciate better over time, and there’s been so many issues with the Bronco hard tops and squeaks, lots of engine issues in the forums and the dash/gauges looks cheap. The stereo also sucks. Nothing outperforms the wrangler off road. I’d say the bronco obviously has better on road manners but is so big and bulky that it’s way less maneuverable and the solid axles on the jeep are better for off road use.
Personal experience: Got the soft top by choice, love putting it down but then I live in a land of mild winters. Even with the top down, stock stereo seems fine to me, but I got a '22 and wonder if they addressed the quality issue after '21. Since I wanted a stick, I got the 2.3L and so seem to have dodged those engine issues. Wide? Fair criticism. Solid axles? I seriously considered a wrangler and had I been a bachelor, might've gone for it, but my wife has to like it too, so road manners count. Off-road, I've been very impressed, but maybe that's just because I'm an unsophisticated noob. You didn't mention position-sensitive shocks, but that's where I've been most disappointed: If they're supposed to enable a brisk pace over washboards without rattling my teeth, or over a series of berms without losing control, then something must be wrong with mine.
Dont waste your money on a jeep there customer service are the worst I regret buying my 2021 rubicon :/ recall with no solution for over 7 months with no eta on parts..save your time
It's a jeep thing and I never had still don't and will continue not to understand premium full size truck pricing on a small problematic ugly off road vehicle. I can't figure the advantage beyond small tight trail options.
Will never buy on of those scrap they are not built like in the 90's and it just a flashy things I know people that own one that can't feed theirs Kids properly another bad decision and choices
soon the jeep 392 will become the new target for car thieves , because the hellcat guys can't enjoy their cars without kicking the wife or girlfriend out the bed to put their dodge vehicles!
Ive owned my Rubicon for about 2 years now (2018 tho) and I fucking love it. Changing the oil? Easy as fuck. Repairs? Easy as fuck. My prior vehicle, a Honda, you needed to change a headlight bulb...you had to remove the entire front bumper, passenger side wheel, etc. The Jeep is a THOUSAND times more practical.
Speaking of which, I was driving somewhere today, and wound up on a muddy, wet, uphill road. In my Honda, I would have been stuck...incapable of going anywhere. With the Jeep? Dropped it into 4L, cruised right on up that steep muddy road with ease.
I'm hooked for LIFE. 👌
You are literally the only person I have heard say any wrangler was bad off road lol!
If most come with fox shocks....why the Mopar ones on this?
@@simonj126 I think fox makes shocks for Mopar.
Never been a “jeep guy” but my 392 is the most enjoyable vehicle. I have about 5200 miles and I just find reasons to drive it.
392 sounds like fun
Just hit 4700 miles after 2 months of ownership. Best vehicle I've ever owned.
We bought ours in 2011....it's been great. Looks brand new too. We're afraid to trade it in for a new wrangler because we know a few people with 2020-2022's having lot's of issues.
I have an 08 JKU and completely agree. I look at all this new tech in the new ones and find so many failure points. I could imagine seriously offroading it for fear of damaging it and ending up with an expensive repair bill. My 08 is very simple and reliable.
What issues????
Barefoot? Nicely done
Very nicely done indeed! 🤩
Wranglers are really cool vehicles and I'd really like to own one, but I can't wrap my head around 70k plus for a Rubicon that is meant for off roading. Given all the trade offs I'm considering a two door Willy's as an extra vehicle instead of having a Rubicon as my daily driver. Just a crazy expense unless I go bare bones and mod it out in my opinion.
Bought a 2019 Wrangler sport and super reliable. No issues, just basic maintenance and the car runs beautifully. Traded it in for a 2024 Jeep Wrangler Altitude with the one touch sky roof, I fucking love it.
11:00 yep all we want is a cherokee XJ, without any changes to it except to make it a little safer and faster. that's it. maybe even an electric version. not sure why jeep can't figure it out.
No way I'm paying 86k for a damn Jeep Wrangler. 😭😭😭 But they look nice and I love that 392! My wife wants a Wrangler now 😭
First, I agree 392 and all JL's are expensive and it's crazy what's happened to the market. 2nd, you state (at the 8:10 mark) that it needs everything on for traction off road and that's it's "horrible offroad". You must have something wrong with your BLD or you're not unlocking sway bar, or ??? The JK started the generation of BLD and it was good then and even better in the JL. My JLUR (as seen on my channel jeepNdirt) on 4.5 inches of lift and 38's almost never has the lockers turned on unless I really get stuck or approach rocks larger than the approach angle of my 38's. 3rd you mentioned it's "too loud" for everyday commute. I tell folks all the time, the JL as compared to previous generations i.e. LJ, TJ, YJ, CJ is far quieter. Yes loud if you're comparing to a full interior vehicle like that mustang or truck, or any other car with ton's of insulation and not convertible, but generally speaking at 85 mph in my soft top JLUR on 38's (as seen on my channel) doesn't prevent me from having a normal conversation with anyone in my jeep. Yes it's not exactly quiet on the inside like riding in a regular car but it's not so bad that I'd tell anyone I wouldn't recommend it for daily driving. In terms of taking it off-road, it's a jeep. It's made to go off-road. Why are people so scared to go off road and use the classic statement " I'm afraid I'll mess something up". Come on enjoy it, enjoy the outdoors, enjoy all these natural resources. You only live once. Lol. As for your question on what you should get. I'd say neither of your two options. If you're going to actually be a jeep guy and actually use it, then get a Sport S with an option package that get's you some of the interior features that come on the Rubicon, strip out drive line and install aftermarket Dana 44 up front and the teraflex CRD 60 in the rear, get the 3.6 V6 with the incredible 8 speed auto and 5.13 gears, lift it 4.5 inches and then throw some 39's with Metalcloak control arms to include the new DB3 rear brackets, Adams drive shafts, LoD Destroyer rear bumper with tire carrier, stubby front bumpers, Steersmart steering components, then go out and enjoy it knowing you still spent less than buying a stock rubicon or even the 392 assuming you do the work yourself. Lol. Good stuff man.
Jeep is the luxury brand now. No need for the Chrysler brand anymore 😂
Just got rid of my 2021 eco diesel high altitude, great resale value!!
I love my 392. I daily drive it and have 15k miles. It is a great do it all vehicle for me. Stupid acceleration like a muscle car. I can throw kids in back. It has just enough touch of lux to be comfy, but not so nice that I'd get upset with kids for leaving Happy Meal trash and coloring on my headrest. It has great looks and lowest depreciating vehicle you can buy. It isn't as plush and quiet as a bland CUV and that is exactly why I bought it. I wanted a truck with some character and not just a commuting appliance.
Jeeps are expensive toys. They aren’t practical and they’ve become enormously expensive. Serious off roading requires a significant financial investment. That’s why most Jeeps are never taken off road. I agree with comparing them to Range Rovers. Jeeps have transitioned into status symbols due to their cost.
Modified TJ’s & JK’s make more financial sense for those that want to off road their Jeeps. Jeeps aren’t practical but they’re fun. I’m on my third Jeep. I recently replaced my TJ with a JK. I searched for months to find a one owner, locally owned, low milage JK in showroom condition. A new Jeep would have cost me about $25,000 more than I paid for the JK I purchased.
Buying a used Jeep requires some knowledge of Jeeps and that definitely requires a through inspection by a qualified mechanic before finalizing the purchase too. Most Jeeps are secondary vehicles that have never been off road, so buying a used Jeep isn’t any more risky than buying any used car. The potential savings is worth buying used, IMO.
I love the looks, but the sketchy reliability scares me.
Traded my trailhawk for a wrangler in november 2022. So far it's been great.
I got a wrangler sport hardtop 4door with etorque 6 cylinder
Luv my 392. I’ve had 3 other jeeps(77 CJ-7, 76 CJ-5 and an 81 CJ-5). If you’ve owned a Jeep in the past you will not complain about anything with the 392, besides price. Honestly a Subaru or AWD crossover would probably be a better fit for most people.
Nobody is cross shopping a subaru with a wrangler lol
Well I can’t say for sure people like them much one local car dealer has about 13 used ones for sale on his lot 😮
Wow
Tell me which insurance company you use and in what state? Your insurance rate for the rubicon is great! Also I totally agree with you on the pricing. It's ridiculous! I love my paint too much to take a vehicle that expensive off-roading, as much as I dying to go off-roading. I may just get an older, reliable model in good condition for that purpose.
I have State Farm and it costs me $1600/yr for a $70k+ Rubicon. And that’s with a clean record and all the bundling discounts. If you go with a “discount” insurance company and the lowest coverage possible, you can also be at or below $1k/yr. But good luck if something happens. At that point might as well not bother with insurance at all and save yourself the $1k 😂
@@DuckMeTV I also have State Farm with a squeaky clean record, but it's costing me more than that and that's why I asked which US state are you paying that amount? Maybe it's a different state.
@@dieselqueen I’m in FL
@@DuckMeTV That makes sense. NY is ridiculously expensive. Ugh.
Think of me when you get ready to sell I will take it, love the color
Cool, I really like my 22 model, 392. Let me know if you want to sell your wheels and tires! Yeah the seats are cool , I agree. I put a Hellwig sway bar on the rear and it fixes that sway from side to side. You might want to try one. Glad you like you Jeep, Liked and subscribed, best, Chuck.
Love the cat In the background 😊
Yes, get the AEV
Battery terminals not connected well will cause false readings on computer. Manufacturers need to put better terminals.
Don’t sell or trade in for the AEV, you can upgrade overtime and customize just how you need to.
4500 Miles is not enough for me to listen
How do you get the ford out?
Oh yeah, get the AEV!
While video not sponsored, did you get the exhaust for free?
Had a 2019 Wrangler Sport. Loved it but wanted more power and got a 2020 Mustang GT. High inflation due do the current whats its face in office, insurance and gas sky high so got rid of it for a 2022 Colorado Z71. So far im happy with it. So to your question,, yes its fun owning a wrangler but they are not worth the price they are asking for them.
spoiled rich kid
That grill has a biting teeth look with the lighting.
He owns a Jeep and a Raptor and a mustang? this already tells me the intelligence level of this guy.
Love my diesel rubicon! The factory suspension sucks!
Go with aev with the bypass shocks.❤❤❤
does the aw exhaust have a quiet setting as well?
Yes
I would get the Wrangler Rubicon with the Eco Diesel
I thought a lot of you till I seen the color of the jeep. I think you should give it to your fiancée 😂😂😂
It was originally for my wife, but after the baby I traded her🤝💪🏻
Man i got to get one
Love ours!
What year is this
They’re not worth it, the fanboys who own one will say it is but it’s not worth the 85k plus they’re charging.
I would get 20th anniversary variant with 37s or just get a bronco raptor. Which I think you are doing anyway lol.
Jeep ❤
Avoid it like the plague. Anything higher than 65 mph and hello death wobble. Didnt elevate it. Didnt get bigger tires. Just factory settings and.....death wobble. And get this, the rep at chrysler jeep said there is no proper fix. Still waiting 2 months for the back order steering damper that supposedly might help. I own a 2022 Jeep Wrangler. Yep 2022 smh.
You have a 392 with factory 35” tires and it does death wobble?
@masoudshaghaghi5744 yes. As is. No modifications.
Love it! You should also give financial advice. I would just like to own a Jeep Willys and can't. You're clearly doing something right or your in debt like a mutha'. Thanks for sharing l with us that don't know. Love your videos!
Cars are all paid off and can’t give financial advice on TH-cam lol
Hey, I saved up 14k and put that down on my 21' 2 door willys. Took me several years, but with such a huge amount down, I pay 300 per month. 2 more years, and it's paid off.
@@BenHardyCars Congratulations! Seriously! Happy you're doing well and I enjoy the vids. Still though...would love to know how you do it sans the YT vids. Cheers!
@@rangermark-npsnevada9316 Sweet man! Good for you! Thanks! What engine transmission set up did you go with? Any thoughts on the manual? turbo vs 6? What features did you go for? I wish you cold get the Gorilla glass and the non carpeted waterproof floors like you can in the 4 doors.
@shmac96 automatic 8 speed transmission. German design and high efficiency
2.0 turbo 4 cylinder. I installed an oil catch
can and installed a bigger intake pipe.
The 2 door willys comes with waterproof rubber Mat and limited slip differential
A garage with no tools. Also You need to do some yard work .
Beep beep. Who got the keys to the Jeep?! Vvrrrrooooooooooommmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know what I had to do.
Hey man, just bead some pink caulk in those gaps. Problem solved! LOL!!!
Lol
Friend recommended front mud flaps since I was having the same problem with rear fenders. Made a huge difference on my Rubicon. Just get the wider option. Huge difference 😊
As a die-hard Jeep girl, I think pink Jeeps should be illegal 😂😂
Jeep is a Ford Bronco that drinks Bud light
If the 4wd is great on pavement but sketchy off-road, thanks for validating my decision to buy a bronco.
That’s a great car too. Still the wrangler should depreciate better over time, and there’s been so many issues with the Bronco hard tops and squeaks, lots of engine issues in the forums and the dash/gauges looks cheap. The stereo also sucks. Nothing outperforms the wrangler off road. I’d say the bronco obviously has better on road manners but is so big and bulky that it’s way less maneuverable and the solid axles on the jeep are better for off road use.
Personal experience: Got the soft top by choice, love putting it down but then I live in a land of mild winters. Even with the top down, stock stereo seems fine to me, but I got a '22 and wonder if they addressed the quality issue after '21. Since I wanted a stick, I got the 2.3L and so seem to have dodged those engine issues. Wide? Fair criticism. Solid axles? I seriously considered a wrangler and had I been a bachelor, might've gone for it, but my wife has to like it too, so road manners count. Off-road, I've been very impressed, but maybe that's just because I'm an unsophisticated noob. You didn't mention position-sensitive shocks, but that's where I've been most disappointed: If they're supposed to enable a brisk pace over washboards without rattling my teeth, or over a series of berms without losing control, then something must be wrong with mine.
Listen to that baby purrrr ok time to trade my honda in for a jeep 😂
Have you gotten the Hemmi Tick yet?
No
So this is a video to sell an exhaust and complain about the truck.
No
Have you ever toke the doors out, the roof of etc,…? So i guess no not worth to buy one
I’ve driven with the top off and that’s fun
Dont waste your money on a jeep there customer service are the worst I regret buying my 2021 rubicon :/ recall with no solution for over 7 months with no eta on parts..save your time
Why not power wash those rocks outta there?
Doesn’t work
@@BenHardyCars 😮
It's a jeep thing and I never had still don't and will continue not to understand premium full size truck pricing on a small problematic ugly off road vehicle. I can't figure the advantage beyond small tight trail options.
Beitch boy rh
Will never buy on of those scrap they are not built like in the 90's and it just a flashy things I know people that own one that can't feed theirs Kids properly another bad decision and choices
I don’t think you should blame a Jeep for being the reason people can’t feed their kids😂 kind’ve a parenting problem
But those that make the Jeep can feed their kids? So now what?
@@jkmarshall3553 If you’re responding to me the simple answer would be to stop prioritizing materialistic things over your children. Simple
I don't have kids and enjoy my jeep. Go and clean up little Jim bobs turds
@@dfelton1018what I mean by that is they are way to expensive for what you get and not good for family 😕
No ! Should’ve get the 4runner
Kept
soon the jeep 392 will become the new target for car thieves , because the hellcat guys can't enjoy their cars without kicking the wife or girlfriend out the bed to put their dodge vehicles!
Ask your better half. It's not pink it's Magenta! :-)
Ok nissan guy
also known as GAYYYYYYYY
Lol the price with crap shocks, crap exhaust, noise, hmmm may as well get crappy overpriced Land Rover 🤦♂️
Nice jeep. Terrible color.
Seriously why is it pink?! 😭
My jeep was $25'000. I'm not going off road till I pay it down a little.
makes sense to spend that much for a "jeep" and afraid to wheel it.....NOT
When it's my daily I don't want to break it.
The jeep is great, put a steel bumper on mine...now when I run people over I don't worry about major damage. Cheap can of paint and we're good
LOL
pure junk