The Difference Between GOOD and BAD Junglers - League of Legends
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"You wont see this game very often" - almost every game I play.
8 out of my 10 games…I get tilted when I’m doing good time on jg then look at lanes all loosing. You can’t control every aspect, one or two bad lanes game is over. I don’t mean just a bad game for those players… just your typical 1/10/2 player with 2,300 damage at end of game. But in all 3 lanes.
Then there I am with my 7/9/17 but I’m the issue according to every lane lmao
Kda doesn’t always justify you playing well
@@Hinotenguthat’s true but it shows what decisions were made. I had a top Gwen go 3/13 and blame me cus I never ganked for her. She literally wanted to fight him from the jump and refused to farm. My fault right?
@@halakon666 wards
Come on man, that first amumu clip was so harsh man just ran up point blank and wiffed both q's
What we got from this guide:
That nocturne was bad.
u got why the nocturne was bad, and how to not be bad like him lol
that last gank if I go top like that my kennen would just watch jayce run away
I need to give at least 1 kill to all enemy laners to feel like I've achieved anything.
playing as jungler is pretty similar to playing chess but its 4D chess, you've always think ahead from enemy
That is literally what normal chess is.
4D chess would be making a play that seems a blunder but in reality it's part of the bigger move. None of this happened here. Stop using memes if you don't understand them.
@@hardstuck1837 its not that serious bro
@@davidhuzvar2827There's nothing more serious than chess, my father failed to attend my birth because he had scheduled a chess match with his pals the day before
Yeah but sometimes well most of the time your enemy is your team , and you cant think ahead of them because there is not a single thought in their minds , cant kmow what they do becauze they dun even know what they are doing😂
Jarvan on the thumbnail marked as bad triggered my fight or flight response, but it's just referring to bad players lol
Same lol. I saw Jarvan bad and was like, but noooooo?
we need more like this .
first clip was definitely dantes
I don't understand why graves shouldn't invade lee. He will get his camps while he recalls. Still follows the rule of playing near him too.
there was a whole section explaining why not to invade.
Skillcapped plays both sides. They also say don’t gank>farm unless 80% sure kill. If you skip camps & fail gank, you are now down 300g & 1 level in tempo vs finishing clear. Even if you GET THE KILL, your only matching 300g kill for 300g you skipped in camps.
The proper answer is neither in vid. It’s to finish full clear towards top.
1) protect your own blue side
2) maintain guaranteed gold/min
3) still allows for gank or counter gank if lee overstays
4) allows to RED SIDE invade lee if he doesn’t reset since he is too low to protect
they literally explained it after. You're not necessarily close if Lee decides to re-gank as you'd have to go through river, plus you're then not in a position to gank yourself.
The fact that Lee can base and buy an item largely erodes the lead, based on which Graves should be playing close to him. The whole reason of Graves being ahead is the fact that Lee has no significant item spike at time of him ganking top, and he drops to half HP; both circumstances cease to be relevant the moment he recalls.
lee should tell his support to check/ward his camps. in that case, if you are inving, lee will also inv and advantage is wasted. what advantage? well, now lee has to recall and walk to his bot lane camps all the way, and giving you the info that you won't be able to be countered ganked on top side by lee. you gained tempo and covered your top/ganked top. + it is harder to inv the bot side jungle in soloq since the enemy support is always ready to react.
so it depends on bot lane match up as well.
hence,
if low elo + dominant bot lane => inv else full clear/react to Lee regank => tempo+top play (guaranteed outcome)
my junglers always make a good effort to equally feed all enemy laners and ruin the wave state of every lane then afk at 15 mins!
Vice versa laners goin 0-2 while not even cleared 1 Jungle Side 😂
Me starting top full clear so I can get to bot more often only for botlane to die before I even get there lol
Skill issue
Always?
If this ALWAYS happens i think you are the problem :)
So?: Path towards the E-Jungler for success?? Depending on items/levels/health ofc... but path towards them to be present is what I got out of this. But I don't ever jungle so I'm curious...
Well, yeah. If you're stronger you'll always beat them. If they gank, you gank back, it's a 2v2, you're stronger, you win. They do obj, you're stronger still, you beat them and get obj.
If you're weaker, path the other way. They gank top, you gank bot or mid, they go for obj, you go for the other obj.
There's different types of advantages you may have at any given time:
Tempo: you're ahead in clear speed, or closer to a fight happening. This means you should immediately take opportunities to fight that are close to you, otherwise continue clearing to maintain the tempo advantage. You have until the end of your clear to make something happen.
Fighting power: You're ahead in levels, hp, or items significantly. You will guaranteed beat the enemy jungler, thus path towards the side they are on and look to counter their plans, forcing them to leave or die.
Knowledge: You know where the enemy jungler is because they showed in a lane or on a ward, and you didn't. You can choose to cut them off based on where they go after if you think you win, steal camps, or take a guaranteed non-countered gank on the other side of the map.
@@horizon146thx homie
Tbh. I’m a graves player if I was in his shoes I woulda 100% invaded I know that I will atleast get 2 of lees camps “blue gromp”. Ive come to the understanding that when you’re playing a carry jungler like graves it’s often best to play for yourself because 90% of the time your teammates in soloq are worthless. So I would rather go invade create a lead in jungle. It’s like if I get ahead of Lee as graves even a little bit I can basically perma invade his ass along as my lanes don’t int and can contest prio. Even when I do have prio I sometimes invade cuz i know if I’m off a power spike and he’s not then he’s a dead man.
Me as a Jarvan Main feeling personally offended by this thumbnail! But great video though. 😂
But if the NOC invaded, if JG left, would he be guarded?
I vent gold2 from silver 4 this season just dodge 2-3 Times every day. I hate my self for not learn this earlyer. In silver i find it useful for tank becuse games allways go late.
So if team has no tank I dodge. It worked for me but not allways.
I cant stand when my team goes all ad champs. Or picks some stupid team comp with no cc 😂
Make the same guide for support, pls 😁
why would a support need to know how to jungle?
@@bbbk123 I think that you know that I'm talking about quick decision making, right?
I got to play with him and bunny fufu in an all for one Thresh VS sett many years ago.
Got to talk em especially him during that. He was cool n helpful when i asked about editing tips n stuff.
So its a shame to hear all that went down and he turned into that
your better jungler if u know how to play other lanes so u know what to do to help them like wave freezed under enemy turret need to help push etc
This right here is what helped me pick up jungling so much easier!
my favorite part of jungle is my team losing lane and blaming it on me before I clear half my jungle
I HOPE COACH EAGZ MAKES A REVIEW OF THIS VIDEO :D
Okay but explain what Nocturne should of done to path better in that instance. Cause it doesn't seem like he couldve really done anything different lol.
What I would have done as Noctune in that situation is Raptors -> Red -> Krugs -> Enemy Blue -> Enemy Gromp -> Enemy Wolves -> Back and go to your own blue/bot scuttle with a level lead in case Lee invades.
I think that's the ideal path. after that if everything go as planned you have a 3 camp lead on Lee (12cs) and you're more likely to get 6 before him and start spamganking with R.
I would Raptors>Krugs>Red> Recall> Scuttle > Blue or fight river > Then fullclear from gromp to krugs wich would be respawned by the time. By doing this u almost hit 6, that is nocs first spike
He should've just taken a full clear for level 4. Going looking for a gank at level 3 with no items is probably 90% of the time not going to get a kill, so just wasting time.
"You will never find yourself in with this start" my friend I've been master for 4 seasons my god is it such a shit elo xD what low elo players don't know is this happens more than most would admit. But the reason why is a little different (imo) in master there are 2 kinds of players tryhards who want LP, and children(man children). The children players often get blinded by tiny mistakes thier team makes and afk the game, tryhards tend to just play the game and "try"not to tilt. Myself included
Good ones win, bad ones dont :D
se sei forte sali
You really said "Just make good decisions"
I was hoping the video was gunna get somewhere
Could Nocturne have invaded Lee's top jungle ? If not why ?
im gonna share this in my solo q and let them look at the viedo then do a powerpoint of what they learn
Drop graves tutorial
But like nocturne and Lee situation , Lee was low HP and noc should have took his jg however, graves and lee the graves shouldn’t take his jg even tho it’s a similar situation with lee being top and low health ? Nocturne could have gotten caught in the jg as well by Lee , asking for a bronze friend lmao
difference number 1 : a good jg is usually something the enemy team has
a bad jg is the r*tard first timing jax in my promos who bought doran's blade instead of a jg item
Can we get another ADC guide? It's been years guys 😩
Focus on cs early, position well in teamfights, hope and pray your support isn't retarded. That's about it
typical adc main. crying for help
Bad jungler only look for strong picks, but dont look into why picks are strong, so players basicly go full clear jarvan without understanding how good of a ganker he is
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As a jungle main, the good jungler is always on the enemy team. :]
wtf im still in iron and i have had this leesin / nocturn type situation. he could to red blue gromp invade and he would be 3.
Posting this in champ select every game so my jungler isn't at Krugs when drag is spawning.
Typical speech from someone who never played jungle seriously once or just simply don’t understand the role 😂
Taking drakes not only depends on one player, because it also needs you to have at least bot or mid prio, and hoping this prio will serve in order it not to be contested.
It also depends on the type of jungler you play, some junglers can easily taking it before level 6 without any help, some junglers can simply not.
But overall taking the 2 first drakes are really not that valuable, compared to invade ennemy jungle or gank, even less valuable with the recent jungle changes.
@@Detecto33 Well said Detecto33, I detect facts from Detecto33 here!
IM SILVER
3rd
JUNGLERS XD
Here a suggest from a jungler vet, never gank bot lane if they dont buff abc, its no worth the gank, they will easily useless later when a tank on top lane or an assassin on mid lane get the item.
This is the biggest nonsense I've ever read in my entire life
ngl this is probably the least informative video about jungling i have ever seen. it pretty much boils down to "if you have tempo advantage you should invade. unless you shouldnt"
WHAT HARD TO FOLLOW GUIDES ARE THESE.. JESUS
You are just insulting people and your video is FULL of contradictions