Man I used to love Koba, man... But it's still such a great idead to turn him into the villain here. The next one is just too painful too me, but this is like the empire strikes back of the franchise.
Carver played the same role on The Walking Dead. 😆He allowed the governor to kill his brother and joined him, cuz he didn't like how his brother ran the group. He's the guy in the tank that Daryl killed. 😂 Talk about type casting. hehe
A good number of you all act like you are forced to watch, here in these comments. Like, yeah, when you have half a dozen people on screen, things are going to be hectic, you aren't going to mesh with every person, there's going to be confusion and misunderstandings. Grow the fuck up and watch something you enjoy if all you can do is find shizznit to complain about. JFC.
When Koba said “human work”, my audience and I laughed. When Koba pointed to his scar and said “human work” again, we stopped laughing. That was our “NOO” moment like in Rise.
Great scene, but for me the "NO" moment was Maurice saying "...Run." That's the first time we've heard him saying anything - and it was to warn the humans. Hearing that deep growl come from the gentle giant was jarring.
Like Stories of Old put it best when he said that Cesar's continued trust in Koba until the end was because of his inability to see that apes were not an improved genesis of sapience, but rather retained the same capacity for violence and sin that humans now suffered from. And in the third movie, he realizes the same holds true about himself as well.
Fun fact: Koba is actually a bonobo, not a chimp. They’re the closest relatives of chimps and are usually more chill and less violent. Which is ironic considering who Koba was. I’m sure there’s more bonobos with all the apes but it’s hard to tell the difference at a glance.
How is it not obvious to anyone watching that the guy is just a low IQ troll It was common knowledge on this channel years ago. Only reason he's kept around is because people are too dumb to recognise it and so keep bringing them traction by arguing over him in the comments lol
Pat insisting the apes made the virus and took out humanity, after watching the first movie and being reminded multiple times otherwise, just reminds me of all the covid deniers
Koba is one of the best antagonists for a movie in the 2010s! Fun fact: at the very end of the credits there's noise resembling crashing debris and breathing. This was an implication from Matt Reeves that Koba may have survived the fall and would return in the sequel, but ended up going another route
I believe he might have started another colony/tribe hence there are two factions in the fourth movie. He might even be the ancestor of the 4th movies antagonist since theyre both bonobos
According to the prequel comic, Koba was a showbiz ape on a TV show. He got those scars from his abusive owner. Then, they sold him to the research labs since he "lost his looks." He never saw anything but abuse from humans.
I love how after Koba kills Carver, not a single person even acknowledges that he is missing or that they most likely walked over his dead body. And to be fair, he kind of deserves that.
Umm... They did acknowledged it by wondering why he would shoot the ape. So it make sense for them that he isn't there and Koba would've hid the body because he was trying to frame the human. After finding out he didn't do it, they figure he probably just ran.
a diagram of pats brain as it processes something , then a thought pops in and it leaves his mouth should be drawn for science books. cause his logic when things are specifically told to him not once but TWICE is astounding
I truly try to ignore 100% of his comments and have for a while now, and it isn't even because of the statements like in this reaction of not remembering any actual information both from the previous film AND them repeatedly telling him in the moment. I mean that's enough on it's own for me to not wanna watch, but I already seen a long time ago he's not just a shock jock type personality but he's also a contrarian(I hate even using that word btw) but it applies to him. He says and takes stances solely because it's the opposite of what everyone else or the majority thinks. I remember this being confirmed with a show or something where he kept wanting something to happen and be the case and was the only 1 who felt that way, well when others actually started agreeing and wanted exactly what he said he flipped and wanted the opposite! 😂 it's 1 thing to not follow the masses or just be a sheep I understand questioning things in life and not just agreeing because multiple people do, but that doesn't mean whatever the majority feels you automatically feel the opposite to be different and that's exactly what hes does. It's beyond aggravating atp he's 1 of those I'm arguing my point not because I think I'm right but just to argue because you feel differently. If the consensus concluded that murder is wrong he's going to die on a hill that murder is absolutely right.... just because I have to go against the majority. I'm pretty sure there was 1 time he was so extreme with it that he was justifying a blatant criminal act involving sex just to be arguing with the couch and no one was going for it which only makes him double, triple, and quadruple down further. There's never a seeing the logic moment, if they all say kidnapping a child is wrong there's no making him see why that's the case his logic is telling him to feel the opposite no matter what, and then let it be another reaction where THEY say kidnapping a child is right he'll argue the opposite 😂😂😂 not because he has logic saying it's wrong but because he HAS to feel differently.
@@alexanderthegreat5649 In a way, him being a contrarian solely for the sake of it makes him just as much of a sheep as someone who blindly follows the masses. His "opinions" and stances still hinge entirely on what everyone else thinks.
The dynamic between Caesar and Koba was actually more of a transformative transition from being friends who trusted each other like brothers to becoming archenemies and polar opposites.
Pat must smoke heavily. His memory retention is just…wow😂. It’s actually smart cuz it forces the rest of the group to add context and exposition. Great reaction fam!
Pat has some of the wildest takes, I can’t with him. 😭 how does he not get how this is not the apes fault and that the humans are fully responsible. He’s acting like that idiot in the movie that shot Ash in the beginning 🤣
"War, war never changes..." Caesar was blind to Koba being capable of that level of betrayal because he thought apes were better than that. As he says in the end before he send Koba on his way "You are not ape." Koba was totally corrupted by his desire for revenge for what was done to him and to other apes. What really sucks is how Koba decisions will impact all of the Apes, plunging from relative peace into bloody war, Andy Serkis deserves every award for his portrayal of Caesar throughout these 3 films but Toby Kebbell who did the performance of Koba is just as good. He channeled like every Shakespearian baddy; Richard III, Iago, and Aaron all in one. Just bilious, venomous evil. Great character work.
I remember the trailers making the big fight between humans and apes look awesome, but then I remember the sheer horror I felt watching so many apes being shot and seeing stuff like the gorilla trying to drag other apes to safety despite being shot himself.
Same. I could watch that sequence more than a 100 times and it will still bring tears in my eyes. Knowing that all of God’s creatures suffer and die savagely because of us; our lust to torture and kill them for sport. Even though they started the war, mankind would never understand that they’re just creatures that want to live in peace and we wouldn’t hesitate to kill every single one with extreme prejudice. We will falter to no end, it is and always will be our curse from the moment we are born into this world.
it's trolling, he's done it for years to ragebait people. I don't know how everyone keeps falling for it, this is the same guy that used to defend Homelander 😭
You guys realized that Koba died in the same way as Jacobs? this is true art with universal themes, Caesar's arc is about do not judge others for who they are or what they believe, if we all have empathy and malice (with how polarized the world is today it's a nice message) and Koba is how "NOT" to deal with trauma, He became like the one who abused him... a wild beast 💎 💎 💎
This movie is an underated masterpiece , it’s so good , the story is amazing and Ceaser’s dinamic with Koba is really powerfull and tragic cause Koba is a tragic character , he was a monster created by other monster’s.
What I love is all the lead characters are complex - the factions with the humans and the apes have a logic that you can see, even if you're not necessarily sympathetic to them
Pat seriously doesn’t get it. Will created a stronger drug in the first one to battle his father’s returning dementia, after the effects of the original one wore off. The drug and the oringal one acted like an infection and after some time the human body just adapted to destroy/fight it before it could heal the brain. He specifically says the newer drug is more aggressive, but unlike the apes the human body couldn’t/can’t handle it and just spreads it like a regular highly contagious virus. As in a lot of other fiction and reality humanity dooms itself with no outside influence, in Will’s case it’s a “the road to hell is paved with good intentions” scenario.
@@jeffevans9853 I think the funniest part was Pat being like "aww I want one" talking about wanting Ceasor as a pet, its like bro the entire point of the first and this movie is to treat them as equals lmao
I loved how when Karver was fuckn up, yall were like, "Dang, humans suck. Yall are fcked." But when it was Koba going rogue, yall found a way to separate his actions from all of the apes. The movie does a great job of telling the story from the ape's perspective, so people tend to have more empathy for the apes (even though we do get the humans POV, as well). I tend to always be on the humans side in dystopian stories because I imagine how I would actually feel in a situation like this. I don't want to go extinct because of some over-zealous scientist or trigger-happy fool. Compromise and peace are the only ways to go.
I like to always try to understand where Carver was coming from. Sure, he definitely is an asshole and is super trigger happy, but I don't think it's completely unfounded. There would totally be people like him in this situation, who would endure all the bloodshed and see all the terrible things that happened, and find something to blame it on; the apes. Even if they had nothing to do with the flu, it's understandable that someone would feel nothing for resentment towards them for taking the life they once had from them indirectly. Carver (and in some ways Dreyfus) is the human Koba, just like Malcolm is the human Caesar.
@@dangerousshoes That’s the problem right there. Fear will always dominate our emotional state and if we don’t overcome it, it will turn into hate. Plus, after everything that has happened, some people still deny that all of this was our own doing. It’s like how John in I Am Legend reminded that woman that God didn’t created the virus that was supposed to cure humanity from cancer, we did and we payed a heavy price for it.
The difference is Koba had valid reasons for his actions since he was abused by humans. What exactly did apes do to Carver for him to want to be trigger happy against them?
@@dangerousshoesno. Carver is not the same as Koba. Carver is just an as*hole who's trigger happy and almost ruined everything that the human were trying to do. The apes didn't do anything to him. So no he's not the same as Koba
@@codywalsh2075 and nor does Ceaser. Ceaser is too willing to trust, and not listen to his ape advisors. Koba is evil, and shit. but he has a point. A human randomly finds them, and shoots one of them. almost killing ceasers kid. Koba said, I dont trust them, and they immedtily broke said trust. Koba warned Ceaser, but since Ceaser only knew good humans, and Koba only knew bad humans, the 2 couldn't communicate properly. Ceaser is super smart, and calculating, though, he puts too much trust in his ape brothers, and the humans.
I'm shocked by how few people know this. The stronger smart-juice (which was a virus) mixed with the flu (virus) of the worker at the company and so mutated into a super-flu. It could've been avoided, yes, but so many things happened in the favor of the worst case scenario.
It has been fascinating to come back to this film in a post-Pandemic world. I would also recommend the film Contagion, which is the film that gave the CDC nightmares until 2020 and is now hailed as the film that predicted COVID-19.
someone in another comment section pointed this out for me and I love it 50:40 Koba survives to fall into that scaffolding and then it is crushed with him still alive inside Ceasar said "Koba Belongs in cage" and Koba dies in one
I went to see this movie on the big screen in 3D in theatres in the summer of 2014, and I absolutely loved the storytelling, the writing, and the character developments and interactions.
LORD, Pat! 🤦♂️🤷♂️😂 Come on buddy IK it's fun to take the controversial stance or root for the underdog, and even occasionally for the villain... But those positions are typically taken based on SOME KIND OF INFALLIBLE LOGIC 😆🤣😆 Watchu got against these apes bruh 😂 First blaming em for the virus, then when it was Caesar and his son versus the bear, you took the side of the wild animal literally trying to KILL THEM 💀🤣 I usually defend you in most of these uh... Difficult POVs you tend to take that make Marketa want to pull her hair out lmao, but you definitely don't make it easy 😆 Love you regardless tho bro 👊😂
Pat will always be Pat😂 Eventhough he doesn't know whats going on all the time once he gets it hes a ride or die. Hes like that one friend that who is always on ur side even when ur wrong 🤣
This one is my favorite, it’s so fucking good. Also yeah after the tussle at the water dam, Caesar should’ve imprisoned Koba. He was way to mentally damaged and he clearly understood that Koba has a grudge, he trusted too much/was too trusting.
When Koba was going off at the dam and said “Ceasar loves humans more than apes, More than your sons!” My jaw dropped. I was shocked he wasn’t killed right there, Ceasar has so much grace throughout all three movies
In fact, a sad thing happened to Koba. All bad things he did were result of people coming back. If people had not reappeared, Koba would have remained loyal to Caesar until his death, would have remained a loyalist and friend, an authority and a role model for young apes. There is a cut-out scene between birth of the second son and Caesar's conversation with Maurice. Apes bring various gifts to chief's family, the main one being a bear skin. However, Caesar asks to bring it to Koba, as a sign of gratitude for saving his life. Touched primate doesn't know what to answer, and just hugs Caesar in a brotherly way while he shouts *"Apes strong together!"* . This scene would add to the tragedy of future events. Of course, Koba deserved to die for all bad things he did in the end, but it's sad that all this might not have happened if people hadn't appeared in his life again.
Chris is the MVP this reaction. I forgot just how tense this movie is, and his jokes helped release all the tension for me. Ironically, it made me release a breath I didn't know I was holding in order to laugh. ❤
i think Pat is intentionally an idiot about the movie he's watching and likes to be EVIL with his thoughts and theories just to intentionally get FLAMED in the comments.
Not all the apes can speak just yet. Presumably the combo of ALZ 112 and 113 in Caesar allowed him to develop speech power faster and better. The rest are still catching up, some a bit more, like Koba Blue Eyes is an angsty teen kind of rebelling against his lame dad and his cool uncle Koba is being proven right about humans messing around while his dad keeps giving them chances. Ripe for radicalization. That twinkies thing is definitely bs. I’ve (unknowingly) eaten a couple expired ones and my stomach didn’t feel good 😖 Correct, Franco and his gf died from the virus between movies The trailers really made Dreyfus look like the human villain and that it would basically be a conflict between him and Koba. It was surprising how it actually turned out. I honestly forget about him, or at least don’t think about him a lot I can’t believe I’m defending the pilot, but he didn’t realize he was sick. He just got a nose bleed, people get nosebleeds without being sick I’m sorry, where did Marketa and Pat get this idea that disrespect merits death is how it works in ape society?! 😵💫🤣 And how are you still calling him Koda?! It’s been 2 movies! 🤣
If you pay attention to the scenes with Caesar’s old house you can see a quarantine sign on the front of the house meaning that yes they got infected and died shortly after the first film
I love how in EVERY reaction video, WITHOUT FAIL, Maurice is the undisputed "OFF LIMITS" character. No matter what happens, not even a SINGLE hair of Maurice should be touched. 😂
Messed up thing about Koba is that he's not a chimp, he's a bonobo, a very close relative. Bonobos are generally more chill than chimps, and rather than ripping face and dismembering, they resolve conflicts with... sex, so for Koba to be that angry about what humans did to him, it had to be pretty messed up.
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You guys should have a counter for the many times you say “monkeys” instead of “apes” to remind each other.
Man I used to love Koba, man... But it's still such a great idead to turn him into the villain here. The next one is just too painful too me, but this is like the empire strikes back of the franchise.
Honest question, is Pat a real person?
40:00 Ape not kill ape. Gravity kill ape
Carver played the same role on The Walking Dead. 😆He allowed the governor to kill his brother and joined him, cuz he didn't like how his brother ran the group. He's the guy in the tank that Daryl killed. 😂 Talk about type casting. hehe
lol love how Chris had to remind Marketa 4 or 5 times that " He is the only one who can fix the dam"
Also that apes don’t know how electricity works
She’s the worst by far
@@8ball279 idk how you can say that when Pat exists
@@residentfan1521 pat is stupid. She is stupid and loud
A good number of you all act like you are forced to watch, here in these comments. Like, yeah, when you have half a dozen people on screen, things are going to be hectic, you aren't going to mesh with every person, there's going to be confusion and misunderstandings. Grow the fuck up and watch something you enjoy if all you can do is find shizznit to complain about. JFC.
When Koba said “human work”, my audience and I laughed.
When Koba pointed to his scar and said “human work” again, we stopped laughing.
That was our “NOO” moment like in Rise.
Sure
@@716olli716 lmao you and the other people liking your comment don’t need to be dicks about not believing my story. 😂
Nah that moment was ", You are not ape"... or "Runnn"
Great scene, but for me the "NO" moment was Maurice saying "...Run."
That's the first time we've heard him saying anything - and it was to warn the humans. Hearing that deep growl come from the gentle giant was jarring.
@@Depth217The normies didnt show their reaction to that scene...
Koba is such an amazing villain. A tortured character experimented on who leads to his own destruction.
Like Stories of Old put it best when he said that Cesar's continued trust in Koba until the end was because of his inability to see that apes were not an improved genesis of sapience, but rather retained the same capacity for violence and sin that humans now suffered from. And in the third movie, he realizes the same holds true about himself as well.
@@thirdcoinedge ikr
How do I keep finding you Rick lmao
Fun fact: Koba is actually a bonobo, not a chimp. They’re the closest relatives of chimps and are usually more chill and less violent. Which is ironic considering who Koba was. I’m sure there’s more bonobos with all the apes but it’s hard to tell the difference at a glance.
And to add to this aswell Chimps are notorious for being aggressive and violent but Ceaser isn't that way he thinks before he acts.
Makes you wonder what made Koba so hateful and violent. Bonobos usually solve conflicts with sex. They make love not war.
@@IamnotJohnFord Abuse will do that to some people.
@@IamnotJohnFordA tradition we should take up fr
@@MandatoryFruit😂😂😂😂😂
How hard is it for Pat to understand that the humans was the cause for all of this.
How is it not obvious to anyone watching that the guy is just a low IQ troll
It was common knowledge on this channel years ago. Only reason he's kept around is because people are too dumb to recognise it and so keep bringing them traction by arguing over him in the comments lol
Some people are just...surprisingly very dumb at certain things.
He's just being an obnoxious asshole as a bit.
Doesn't make him any less of an obnoxious asshole, of course...
Yeap I was suprised by this too . He comes across really stupid
He is Muslim. They are not a logical bunch
Pat insisting the apes made the virus and took out humanity, after watching the first movie and being reminded multiple times otherwise, just reminds me of all the covid deniers
Well he was that too. He gave them Covid twice.
@@matthewcronin2325 He's a covid denier?
@@matthewcronin2325which video did they say this
@@BK-ob3lo idk, it happened twice over the span of like 2 years
I bet he's one of those guys who write pure blood in his bio lol
Koba is one of the best antagonists for a movie in the 2010s! Fun fact: at the very end of the credits there's noise resembling crashing debris and breathing. This was an implication from Matt Reeves that Koba may have survived the fall and would return in the sequel, but ended up going another route
I believe he might have started another colony/tribe hence there are two factions in the fourth movie. He might even be the ancestor of the 4th movies antagonist since theyre both bonobos
Really I did not know that end credit thing. I really like Koda from rise and dawn, but I'm happy what we got from him.
@@justsomedude2020 4th movie takes place 300 years after. And there are far more than two factions in the 4th movie.
Yeah they went the Woody Harrelson route 😂
I think that was Moreno saying that he died from the simian flu during a flight
According to the prequel comic, Koba was a showbiz ape on a TV show. He got those scars from his abusive owner. Then, they sold him to the research labs since he "lost his looks." He never saw anything but abuse from humans.
No wonder he wanted to kill then all,cant blame him for hating humans since all memories he has about them are accompanied by pain and abuse.
Like Caesar said "Koba only learned hate from humans."
I love how after Koba kills Carver, not a single person even acknowledges that he is missing or that they most likely walked over his dead body. And to be fair, he kind of deserves that.
Umm... They did acknowledged it by wondering why he would shoot the ape. So it make sense for them that he isn't there and Koba would've hid the body because he was trying to frame the human. After finding out he didn't do it, they figure he probably just ran.
I'm convinced Pat has one braincell bouncing inside his skull like a dvd logo.
😂😂
And if reaches the corner, he's gonna have human emotions
And it never touches a corner 😢
and it’s a dying one too
Nah, that logo broke through his skull and left long time ago, there is only void now
Fun fact Ceasars wife (Cornelia) was in the Ape habitat. She was in the cage at the end and was taking to the lab then freed later
a diagram of pats brain as it processes something , then a thought pops in and it leaves his mouth should be drawn for science books. cause his logic when things are specifically told to him not once but TWICE is astounding
I truly try to ignore 100% of his comments and have for a while now, and it isn't even because of the statements like in this reaction of not remembering any actual information both from the previous film AND them repeatedly telling him in the moment. I mean that's enough on it's own for me to not wanna watch, but I already seen a long time ago he's not just a shock jock type personality but he's also a contrarian(I hate even using that word btw) but it applies to him. He says and takes stances solely because it's the opposite of what everyone else or the majority thinks.
I remember this being confirmed with a show or something where he kept wanting something to happen and be the case and was the only 1 who felt that way, well when others actually started agreeing and wanted exactly what he said he flipped and wanted the opposite! 😂 it's 1 thing to not follow the masses or just be a sheep I understand questioning things in life and not just agreeing because multiple people do, but that doesn't mean whatever the majority feels you automatically feel the opposite to be different and that's exactly what hes does. It's beyond aggravating atp he's 1 of those I'm arguing my point not because I think I'm right but just to argue because you feel differently. If the consensus concluded that murder is wrong he's going to die on a hill that murder is absolutely right.... just because I have to go against the majority. I'm pretty sure there was 1 time he was so extreme with it that he was justifying a blatant criminal act involving sex just to be arguing with the couch and no one was going for it which only makes him double, triple, and quadruple down further. There's never a seeing the logic moment, if they all say kidnapping a child is wrong there's no making him see why that's the case his logic is telling him to feel the opposite no matter what, and then let it be another reaction where THEY say kidnapping a child is right he'll argue the opposite 😂😂😂 not because he has logic saying it's wrong but because he HAS to feel differently.
@@alexanderthegreat5649 In a way, him being a contrarian solely for the sake of it makes him just as much of a sheep as someone who blindly follows the masses. His "opinions" and stances still hinge entirely on what everyone else thinks.
Ceaser and Koba has one of the best hero/villain dynamics of the 2010s! Dawn is a really great sequel overall!
The dynamic between Caesar and Koba was actually more of a transformative transition from being friends who trusted each other like brothers to becoming archenemies and polar opposites.
pat has to be smokin the highest grades of weed bro no way he’s that slow
@madduxnagel6935yeah dude must be on that high grade Chinese opium lol
Pat must smoke heavily. His memory retention is just…wow😂. It’s actually smart cuz it forces the rest of the group to add context and exposition. Great reaction fam!
i mean they do watch a lot of movies/shows so i dont really give em shit about it
Dont blame that on weed buddy is just dumb 😂.
@@sensaiuriah5440 🤣🤣🤣
I smoke daily and I'm amazed by the shit he says
@@Quzga bro fax I'm 25 been smoking since 15 and my memory is excellent. Pat is just a rare breed of slow man has yet seen 😭🤣
Dawn is arguably the best Planet of the Apes movie ever created. A genuine master piece.
Pat has some of the wildest takes, I can’t with him. 😭 how does he not get how this is not the apes fault and that the humans are fully responsible.
He’s acting like that idiot in the movie that shot Ash in the beginning 🤣
Because he's an idiot
Every ape death on this movie felt so heartbreaking... With every one of them, you can see Caesar dream of peace breaking up in more and more pieces.
"War, war never changes..."
Caesar was blind to Koba being capable of that level of betrayal because he thought apes were better than that. As he says in the end before he send Koba on his way "You are not ape." Koba was totally corrupted by his desire for revenge for what was done to him and to other apes. What really sucks is how Koba decisions will impact all of the Apes, plunging from relative peace into bloody war,
Andy Serkis deserves every award for his portrayal of Caesar throughout these 3 films but Toby Kebbell who did the performance of Koba is just as good. He channeled like every Shakespearian baddy; Richard III, Iago, and Aaron all in one. Just bilious, venomous evil. Great character work.
Why Pat so obsessed with giving the humans Caesar’s baby? 😂 Like hey bro thanks for your help take my son
IT IS SO FUNNY PLSSSKSKKS
My brother forgot the humans had the tank, so when he watched it again on TV he asked “the monkeys brought a tank?!?”
I read this as *bought* a tank which is even funnier
Is your brother Pat?😅
@@PizzaHutCEO imagine Koba sitting in a chair politely waiting at Tanks ‘R’ Us for the paperwork
@@Depth217 😂
I remember the trailers making the big fight between humans and apes look awesome, but then I remember the sheer horror I felt watching so many apes being shot and seeing stuff like the gorilla trying to drag other apes to safety despite being shot himself.
Same. I could watch that sequence more than a 100 times and it will still bring tears in my eyes. Knowing that all of God’s creatures suffer and die savagely because of us; our lust to torture and kill them for sport. Even though they started the war, mankind would never understand that they’re just creatures that want to live in peace and we wouldn’t hesitate to kill every single one with extreme prejudice. We will falter to no end, it is and always will be our curse from the moment we are born into this world.
Lol 🤡
the only way war should be portrayed: as hell
@@blueskybelyr 🤡
@@jsmithers.Bro is actually 7 and probably plays CoD
I honestly appreciate Pat’s dedication to saying “monkey” for as long as it gets a response
At this point Pat is concerning from a medical standpoint
How has he survived this long?
do they read the comments? because he should question himself
it's trolling, he's done it for years to ragebait people. I don't know how everyone keeps falling for it, this is the same guy that used to defend Homelander 😭
@@blueskybelyr no i think he's just dumb
@@blueskybelyr That's true, but he really doesn't understand basic concepts.
"They're already deaf, they can't see the monkeys behind'm."
Never change, Pat.
ffs 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I swear ian think nobody else caught that. Like, there are so many things wrong with this statement 💀
You guys realized that Koba died in the same way as Jacobs? this is true art with universal themes, Caesar's arc is about do not judge others for who they are or what they believe, if we all have empathy and malice (with how polarized the world is today it's a nice message) and Koba is how "NOT" to deal with trauma, He became like the one who abused him... a wild beast 💎 💎 💎
Wonderful analysis 🔥
Poor Pat, having to watch two factions with more intelligence than him battle it out. Like holy shit
Tbf he’s used to it. He has two goldfish tanks at home
3:09 Chris last video kept making sure everyone calls them Apes. Then calls them monkeys LOL
I was about to make the exact same comment 😂
@@KD-cd2ck the amount of times they kept calling them monkeys while also correcting when they hear it is crazy. They really are the Sunny gang
Ive legit never seen a person be as wrong as many times as pat in such a short amount of time.
I genuinely think he has down syndrome
rob from rttv lol
@@ShantalhaitianPrincess I literally thought the same thing 😂😂 him and Pat reacting to the same movie would be stressful 😂 ❤
Pat really should just stop watching movies XD
@@ShantalhaitianPrincessthose kinds of people getting into positions of power is how we get catastrophes
I absolutely love how y'all reacted to Koba's escalation into villainy
Did y'all catch that the "resistance" symbol was the shape of the window where Ceaser was reminiscing about his human friend?
This movie is an underated masterpiece , it’s so good , the story is amazing and Ceaser’s dinamic with Koba is really powerfull and tragic cause Koba is a tragic character , he was a monster created by other monster’s.
This trilogy is like one of the most perfect ones in any media
What I love is all the lead characters are complex - the factions with the humans and the apes have a logic that you can see, even if you're not necessarily sympathetic to them
Yes! The new apes movies are consistently good, but I think Dawn is my favourite (Kingdom included).
Pat seriously doesn’t get it.
Will created a stronger drug in the first one to battle his father’s returning dementia, after the effects of the original one wore off.
The drug and the oringal one acted like an infection and after some time the human body just adapted to destroy/fight it before it could heal the brain. He specifically says the newer drug is more aggressive, but unlike the apes the human body couldn’t/can’t handle it and just spreads it like a regular highly contagious virus.
As in a lot of other fiction and reality humanity dooms itself with no outside influence, in Will’s case it’s a “the road to hell is paved with good intentions” scenario.
I’m so confused how he is confused. It’s not like it was a throwaway line. It was the entire plot of the first film 😂
@@Sloane77 the movie makes it a major plot point and shows it through out. He’s baffling a lot of times.
@@Sloane77 It makes sense when you realize that Pat is phenomenally stupid.
See, and this is why when people defend Pat as "just being contrarian," I laugh. He's not being contrarian, he's just dumb.
Well from what I’ve seen contrarians are fucking stupid so either way it’s bad.
Has Pat forgotten that he's seen the first movie?
They have the collective memory of a single goldfish. The fact they can recall anything is a miracle.
@@marcelloreyes7646 to be fair they watch so much content only once it'd be hard to remember stuff
I usually call Pat king of the bad take, but this is just king of the stupid take.
@@marcelloreyes7646 ah Chris is like ten goldfish at least you cant lump him in with the rest of the goldfishies
@@jeffevans9853 I think the funniest part was Pat being like "aww I want one" talking about wanting Ceasor as a pet, its like bro the entire point of the first and this movie is to treat them as equals lmao
I loved how when Karver was fuckn up, yall were like, "Dang, humans suck. Yall are fcked." But when it was Koba going rogue, yall found a way to separate his actions from all of the apes. The movie does a great job of telling the story from the ape's perspective, so people tend to have more empathy for the apes (even though we do get the humans POV, as well). I tend to always be on the humans side in dystopian stories because I imagine how I would actually feel in a situation like this. I don't want to go extinct because of some over-zealous scientist or trigger-happy fool. Compromise and peace are the only ways to go.
I like to always try to understand where Carver was coming from. Sure, he definitely is an asshole and is super trigger happy, but I don't think it's completely unfounded. There would totally be people like him in this situation, who would endure all the bloodshed and see all the terrible things that happened, and find something to blame it on; the apes. Even if they had nothing to do with the flu, it's understandable that someone would feel nothing for resentment towards them for taking the life they once had from them indirectly. Carver (and in some ways Dreyfus) is the human Koba, just like Malcolm is the human Caesar.
@@dangerousshoes I agree
@@dangerousshoes That’s the problem right there. Fear will always dominate our emotional state and if we don’t overcome it, it will turn into hate. Plus, after everything that has happened, some people still deny that all of this was our own doing. It’s like how John in I Am Legend reminded that woman that God didn’t created the virus that was supposed to cure humanity from cancer, we did and we payed a heavy price for it.
The difference is Koba had valid reasons for his actions since he was abused by humans. What exactly did apes do to Carver for him to want to be trigger happy against them?
@@dangerousshoesno. Carver is not the same as Koba. Carver is just an as*hole who's trigger happy and almost ruined everything that the human were trying to do. The apes didn't do anything to him. So no he's not the same as Koba
Difference between Caesar and Viserys is that Caesar is smart and calculated and Viserys is... not.
I know right? there is no comparison, cesar is the rick grimes of the apes
@@Teddy-zr8yvrick didn't always make the best decisions
@@codywalsh2075 and nor does Ceaser. Ceaser is too willing to trust, and not listen to his ape advisors.
Koba is evil, and shit. but he has a point. A human randomly finds them, and shoots one of them. almost killing ceasers kid.
Koba said, I dont trust them, and they immedtily broke said trust. Koba warned Ceaser, but since Ceaser only knew good humans, and Koba only knew bad humans, the 2 couldn't communicate properly.
Ceaser is super smart, and calculating, though, he puts too much trust in his ape brothers, and the humans.
And both are bias to their families. And that bias is what led to Koba betraying him. Caesar is a flawed king like Viserys.
@@shortstuff780 Caeser still made better decisions than Ricky Dicky dooh dah Grimes
Koba playing a clown to lower the humans guards then gunning them down was such a great scene
Such good dramatic tension
5 min in and Pat is routing for a random bear over the protagonist of this movie...like come on man.
He is rooting for his ancestor. What's wrong with that? 😂
The look Chris shot pat when he said "take 'em with you"🤨
🤨"You dont steal people's kids pat"😂😂
The scene of Blue Eyes finally experiencing how horrible war is is something else.
Koba is such a good villain in this movie. He isnt stupid like so many other villians in other movies, he is actually smart and plans things well.
Pat needs to sit at the children's table 😂
I'm shocked by how few people know this. The stronger smart-juice (which was a virus) mixed with the flu (virus) of the worker at the company and so mutated into a super-flu. It could've been avoided, yes, but so many things happened in the favor of the worst case scenario.
Pat is actually Carver..😂
The next movie is going to be painful...
Blue eyes sided with Koba in the beginning and hated humans was because in his first encounter with a human his friend Ash was shot.
Yall need to sit Pat down and make him rewatch the first one cuz god damn 😭😭😭
Seeing this in the theater was a experience I’ll remember. Such a good movie.
The irony that Koba died just like Jacobs.
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My favourite trilogy ever.
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It has been fascinating to come back to this film in a post-Pandemic world. I would also recommend the film Contagion, which is the film that gave the CDC nightmares until 2020 and is now hailed as the film that predicted COVID-19.
I don't know why, but Spidey's Godfather reference gave me a really good laugh
Sometimes I really have to wonder what you guys would do without Chris to guide you through every movie/tv show you watch 🤣
someone in another comment section pointed this out for me and I love it
50:40 Koba survives to fall into that scaffolding and then it is crushed with him still alive inside
Ceasar said "Koba Belongs in cage"
and Koba dies in one
I went to see this movie on the big screen in 3D in theatres in the summer of 2014, and I absolutely loved the storytelling, the writing, and the character developments and interactions.
Chris and the origin of the Ape-vengers! “If we can’t defend the world, we can’t Ape-venge it”
Loving your Apes Saga reactions, Normies! ❤
Glad you like them!
The amount of times the word "monkeys" 😂😂
Should be a drinking game every time someone calls one of the apes "monkeys" *cough cough Pat*
ngl, "you... are... not ape" is probably one of the the hardest lines in cinema history
Pat’s brain should be donated to science one day
Pat's existence confuses me..... Like I'm genuinely curious about his day to day functioning...😂😂😂
LORD, Pat! 🤦♂️🤷♂️😂 Come on buddy IK it's fun to take the controversial stance or root for the underdog, and even occasionally for the villain... But those positions are typically taken based on SOME KIND OF INFALLIBLE LOGIC 😆🤣😆 Watchu got against these apes bruh 😂 First blaming em for the virus, then when it was Caesar and his son versus the bear, you took the side of the wild animal literally trying to KILL THEM 💀🤣 I usually defend you in most of these uh... Difficult POVs you tend to take that make Marketa want to pull her hair out lmao, but you definitely don't make it easy 😆 Love you regardless tho bro 👊😂
Pat would unironically fall for the Jewish Question based on propaganda
Marketa isnt any better as well
@@diegohrestrehow? no she is. She's not dumb like Pat and not annoying like him
33:13 best reaction to the Koba betrayl ive seen 😂😂
(Also i think Marketa needs some therapy after this one😂)
32:08 "Carver Punched himself to death... It was wild" 🤣
Funniest part of the whole video!!!!😂😂
Spidey’s response about Twinkies is so on point😂
Pat will always be Pat😂
Eventhough he doesn't know whats going on all the time once he gets it hes a ride or die.
Hes like that one friend that who is always on ur side even when ur wrong 🤣
This one is my favorite, it’s so fucking good.
Also yeah after the tussle at the water dam, Caesar should’ve imprisoned Koba. He was way to mentally damaged and he clearly understood that Koba has a grudge, he trusted too much/was too trusting.
why is pat acting like he didn't see the first film? ya'll just leave him out the next apes reaction bro is struggling lmao
When Koba was going off at the dam and said “Ceasar loves humans more than apes, More than your sons!” My jaw dropped. I was shocked he wasn’t killed right there, Ceasar has so much grace throughout all three movies
Im surprised Pat knows how to breathe at this point 🤦♂️ I feel my IQ dropping every time he says something.
Probably the most loves apes movie of the trilogy
In fact, a sad thing happened to Koba. All bad things he did were result of people coming back. If people had not reappeared, Koba would have remained loyal to Caesar until his death, would have remained a loyalist and friend, an authority and a role model for young apes.
There is a cut-out scene between birth of the second son and Caesar's conversation with Maurice. Apes bring various gifts to chief's family, the main one being a bear skin. However, Caesar asks to bring it to Koba, as a sign of gratitude for saving his life. Touched primate doesn't know what to answer, and just hugs Caesar in a brotherly way while he shouts *"Apes strong together!"* . This scene would add to the tragedy of future events.
Of course, Koba deserved to die for all bad things he did in the end, but it's sad that all this might not have happened if people hadn't appeared in his life again.
I love this movie because humans & apes were SO CLOSE to peace... All it took was one bad human & one bad ape to ruin everything.
Oh my got Pat "They're already DEAF, they can't SEE the monkeys behind them" I love ya so much
Chris is the MVP this reaction. I forgot just how tense this movie is, and his jokes helped release all the tension for me. Ironically, it made me release a breath I didn't know I was holding in order to laugh. ❤
My eye twitching every time Pat calls them monkeys.
I love how their unwavering care for animals was immediately questioned when the apes killed the bear.
This is the first video where Pat actually kinda annoyed me, bro just does not respect the apes.
only the first???? you got some wild levels of tolerance
Pat: "Might be time to put Koba down."
Also Pat: " Apes don't kill apes, remember."
The marketing for this series was incredible: at Comicon actors in lab suits offered screenings for Simian Flu.
i think Pat is intentionally an idiot about the movie he's watching and likes to be EVIL with his thoughts and theories just to intentionally get FLAMED in the comments.
He definitely gets engagement for his takes no matter the series😂
I don't like Pat. I just wished he shuts up more. Plus the dude is as dumb as a rock.
I suspect that from long time! He's playing it up and creates engagement
That's just a silly excuse. He's just slow. There's no way that in every single thing he watches he's just pretending
@@bensenzo i hope you mean slow as in slow to movie plots and not slow as in that way. cause that's offensive.
Spidey and Pat laughing during the dark points of movies always gets me 😂🤣
Pat...tf is wrong with you 😂you can tell how frustrated the rest of the group is gettin
Honestly just kick him out tbh he is the most annoying out of all of them 😂
If Marketa opens the door for someone and they don't say "thanks". I fear for their life....
52:33 Why is it so funny he kept wanting Cornelius to go with the humans lmaooooooo i love how consistent he is about it
Fun fact: Koba is a bonobo, which in real life is the most peaceful and non-aggressive kind of chimpanzee there is.
Bonobos and chimps are two different things btw
@@croissantsareaustrianactually wat
@@Nekotaku_TV Chimps are classified as Pan troglodytes while bonobos are classified as Pan paniscus. They're very closely related but *not* the same
@@croissantsareaustrianactually Thanks for the info.
Pat needs a hit of that ALZ 113
Not all the apes can speak just yet. Presumably the combo of ALZ 112 and 113 in Caesar allowed him to develop speech power faster and better. The rest are still catching up, some a bit more, like Koba
Blue Eyes is an angsty teen kind of rebelling against his lame dad and his cool uncle Koba is being proven right about humans messing around while his dad keeps giving them chances. Ripe for radicalization.
That twinkies thing is definitely bs. I’ve (unknowingly) eaten a couple expired ones and my stomach didn’t feel good 😖
Correct, Franco and his gf died from the virus between movies
The trailers really made Dreyfus look like the human villain and that it would basically be a conflict between him and Koba. It was surprising how it actually turned out. I honestly forget about him, or at least don’t think about him a lot
I can’t believe I’m defending the pilot, but he didn’t realize he was sick. He just got a nose bleed, people get nosebleeds without being sick
I’m sorry, where did Marketa and Pat get this idea that disrespect merits death is how it works in ape society?! 😵💫🤣
And how are you still calling him Koda?! It’s been 2 movies! 🤣
If you pay attention to the scenes with Caesar’s old house you can see a quarantine sign on the front of the house meaning that yes they got infected and died shortly after the first film
😂😂 Pat @23:26
And I had the same look Chris did like what bro?!😂😂😂
you ever seen a chimpanzee shoot an ak 47. You would be screaming too had me rolling
Chris is going to be such a fun dad
Pat the type of guy to go "bUt it'S CaLLed, tHe, sImIaN FLU?!"
I love how in EVERY reaction video, WITHOUT FAIL, Maurice is the undisputed "OFF LIMITS" character. No matter what happens, not even a SINGLE hair of Maurice should be touched. 😂
2020 really boosted this movie's credibility in terms oh how bad humanity gonna handle a disease apocalypse that happens.
@31:03 🤣 Twinkies are the cockroach equivalent of snacks
Messed up thing about Koba is that he's not a chimp, he's a bonobo, a very close relative. Bonobos are generally more chill than chimps, and rather than ripping face and dismembering, they resolve conflicts with... sex, so for Koba to be that angry about what humans did to him, it had to be pretty messed up.
95% of the comments are about Pat's brain, and the other 5% praise Koba as a villain.
That pat dude has 4 braincells left and they're not working at full capacity.
“He gon ride the tank! Oh that’s dope” 😂🤣