HISOKA's ACTUAL CHANCES Of Defeating The PHANTOM TROUPE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ย. 2022
- A breakdown on Hisoka VS Each Phantom Troupe member
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Hisoka is just an absolute creep, and yet he's impossible to hate growth wise.
He's OUR creep 😋
In both length and personality lmao
Oh I HATE Hisoka for being an irredeemable monster.
But he's also great as part of the story.
Imo, he is a menace in the antagonist character. He is not only just a psycho creep, but also have a standard and principle in which he apply himself.
strongest pedo ever
I think it is worth mentioning that Hisoka was the third in arm-wrestling in the troupe, right after Uvo and Phinks, both of which are enhancers. This only indicates how powerful that crazy clown is. He's not only physically strong, but he's also an experienced battle veteran who knows how to plan for his fights. He held his own for a while against Chrollo, even though Chrollo had all the time to prepare for their fight and had to resort to using 4 abilities to beat him... I honestly think he's way stronger than we expect him to be...
Everyone says chrollo had prep time like hisoka didnt have prep time as well lmao
@@Zancrowww Ambos tiveram tempo pra se preparar, mas apenas um usou esse tempo.
@@wanfreecss english
@@Zancrowww he said both had prep, but only one used it.
he didnt "hold his own" against chrollo, actually read that chapter and see he didnt even get the chance to touch chrollo
It hurts this to say as a Chrollo fan , but Hisoka could kill every member if he confronts them individually
With what we saw of feitans abilities, and those not even being his full abilities, it just seems like hisoka would win because of plot and not because of there power interactions
We have yet to seen if he truly got a big power boost from losing his arm and leg and coming back to life.
If he did it would end up becoming quite difficult even for the high tier troupe that could have killed him.
Chrollo can take him but he did so while avoiding close quarter and being very careful.
@@MrDarthDread yeah i agree, hisoka need to kill feitan in second and not in a long battle.
@@erlannalan
but hisoka likes to play with his food , which is REALLY BAD thing to do with feitan...
@@chongwillson972 Not anymore since he lost to chrollo once, he didn’t give others a chance.
We all know Hisoka will pull it off, it is just a matter of time
Patience 😏
@@RealLifeRyan for some reason I have a strong feeling Hisoka will defeat the spiders 🕷️ and I don’t think he will die because if he was gonna die then he should have been dead fighting chrollo he’s still alive for a reason
this is what is gonna happen again when he meets chrollo th-cam.com/video/KOszf7oTJi0/w-d-xo.html
In a more serious note though , i think hisoka cold kill most members if he caught them off alone. the nobu group is impossible even if they split 2 -2 and meet up with franklin. Chrollo's group is also impossible if they stay with each other. only one i can see is if he doesn't go to 1st tier immediatly and goes down and runs into franklin somehow.
And maybe machi too since she seems to be alone.
Facts. When I saw how hard he went on the disguise I was like bet my guy got it in the bag. Payback’s a bitch
@@ibrahimandong1572 Wouldn't that be too obvious? Boring.
Hisokas power scaling now is really weird. Hes very strong in general, extremely intelligent and his ability is applicable in any situation much like Chrollo. Before the fight with Chrollo he would play with his targets a lot, he wanted to fight people at their strongest, but after that loss I think he still has that value, its just twisted now. I think he still wants to fight the strongest nen users, he just wants to kill them to prove his strength, rather than beating them at their best. I think hes realized that at the level of nen skill hes fighting at now, you cant afford any handicaps.
Hisoka learned his lesson about letting your enemies have the advantage. When Chrollo killed him Hisoka had an ego death so big it reinvigorated his blood lust to a point where Hisoka will not give his prey a chance to counter him. Instead of letting his opponents have the advantage Hisoka is opting to play with his prey psychologically. Hisoka spares Machi so she can tell the Troupe and he displays the corpses of 2 members like a serial killer or mob goon would to intimidate a person. Hisoka is done savoring the heat of the battle and wants to stir the tdoupes emotions to feel the safisfaction of crushing a strong opponent.
I wonder how togashi keeps track of where all the characters are
I imagine he's the embodiment of the always sunny posterboard meme
I think The Phantom Troupe is going to get betrayed by Illumi and Kalluto. Kalluto specifically said he's trying to save his brother, and Illumi might have also been hired by Hisoka to kill the Spiders first.
I think there's going to be a twist: Half the Troupe dies AND the fight between the Spiders/Hisoka spills over into the Succession War, and Chrollo starts recruiting from either the princes, or others.
If Phinks gets his Ripper Cyclotron redirected that could kill Feitan AND Phinks, or possibly Nobunaga.
Hisoka is WAY too merciless to NOT pull some crazy Bungee Gum Bullshit on the trio.
Also... I think Hisoka, Kurapica, and some of the princes/guards will end up joining the fight against the Spiders.
It's going to get both crazy AND awesome.
EDIT: Chrollo needed SIX abilities to guarantee victory against the earlier Hisoka. He MIGHT have a broken combo of two or three abilities... but he can't just break the game again because Kortopi and Shalnark are dead.
I personally think that Allumi and Hisoka are absolutely in cahoots. He mentioned he wasn’t interested in fighting Fair, and what’s more unfair than installing two spies into the enemy ranks; and what’s even more unfair is the fact that those spies are both Members of the Zoldyck family.
the Hisoka that we saw in chapters 392 and 393 is not the real Hisoka.
why?
1- Hisoka never use black clothes before.
2- we never saw Hisoka walking with his hands in the pocket.
3- we already saw 3 people asking Hisoka if he is Hisoka, and he never answered.
4- Hisoka eyes look empty, Hisoka looks depressed, very different from the Hisoka that come back to life in 357.
5- in chapter 393 Hisoka is watching a movie, and the movie is "the thing" from 1982, and this move is about a shape shifting alien.
6- the movie "the thing" has a quote that says "if I was a perfect imitation, how do you will know that I am not the real one?".
7- Hisoka asking Hiringh permission for ask a question, "can I ask you something", Hisoka never ask permission to ask a question to anyone.
8- in chapter 393 has a panel that focus in Hisoka's hand, but don't show to us the palm of his hand, even when Hinrigh will give him the card, he retract his hands like he don't want that Hinrigh sees the palm of his hand.
9- Hisoka asking who will win in a fight, Hisoka never asked this question to anyone.
so who is this Hisoka?
in chapter 377 Bonolenov say to Chrollo that he can transform in a lot of things, but he's not smart to come up with a plan, so Chrollo say that wants him to do something for him.
Chrollo must ask Bonolenov to transform into Hisoka, then Chrollo use the convert hands, and transform into Hisoka.
that's why he doesn't want to show the palm of his hand to Hinrigh.
that's why when someone asks Hisoka if he is Hisoka, he not answer.
that's why this Hisoka is using black, because Chrollo just use black clothes, in the entire series, even when he disguised himself in heavens arena, he disguised with black clothes.
Chrollo just walkes with his hands in the pocket.
Chrollo is depressed, and has eyes that looks empty, because he just lost two friends.
Chrollo, if you look back in yorknew arc, he likes to ask people permission to ask a question, it was like this with Neon, it was like this with Zeno.
and speaking about Zeno, Chrollo is the one that likes to ask people who will win in a fight, because he asked the same question to Zeno: "in one on one, who will win... him or Zeno".
in chapter 377 shows Chrollo asking the mafia member, how to get to tier 1, and now, disguised as Hisoka, he get the pass to get to tier 1.
for me the real Hisoka is Belerainte, that hunter that likes to help Kurapika a lot, for no reason.
and about the question of the video:
what I think is that in one on one, Hisoka can win against any of the troupe, even Chrollo, but if he fights against two or more at the same time, he loses.
Cool theory
Another dumb theory that exist for no reason
...If you're right that would be awesome and Togashi would have pulled off an EPIC multilevel fakeout.
Also... Illumi and Kalluto are going to betray the Spiders.
I LOVE this theory, but then what’s the point of Chrollo disguising himself as hisoka ? Like what’s the plan here, who is he trying to attract ? If anything he’ll just make things more confusing for his troupe members and make it harder to find the real hisoka. But your probably right about all this, there’s to much evidence, but your theory has some holes too.
@@joshuagcabashe2691 Chrollo probably disguised himself as Hisoka to find out the true intentions of the mafia. that's why he also asked to Hinrigh who would win, if Hinrigh said something like: "I want you to win, because I wish to get rid of the spiders". if he said that, Hinrigh and the whole mafia would be screw. but, Hinrigh is honest, and he really likes the troupe, so in the end, he been honest, was good for them, now Chrollo knows that the mafia just want balance. and I know that you must be thinking too, that Lynch said that "that was definitely Hisoka". but, look, everytime Lynch had punch someone, Togashi make sure that he show to us the bubble coming out of the body, to we know the truth. but when Lynch punch "Hisoka", no bubble come out of his body, but when she wakes up, she said that was definitely Hisoka. what I think is that, "Hisoka" counter Lynch punch so fast, that even though she had punch him, she was not able to hear what his body said, cause she was knocked out so fast, and the reason she says that is Hisoka , is because of the strength. she thinks that that "Hisoka" is so strong, that must be the real Hisoka, but not because she hear what his body said. get? that's why Togashi didn't show us, to let us with just the option of trust what Lynch said. but, of course, Togashi as the author don't want that we know, at least not for now, that that's not the real Hisoka, because when he reveal, he wants to make that big plot twist. but he give us hints.
I can't wait for the fight between Chrollo vs Hisoka rematch. I feel like Kurapika, is gonna get involved somehow. We might see unusual team up from both. But, who knows 😂
Absolutely!
or/and maybe it's like yuyu hakusho where raizen took the kill off yusuke at the final stages, then another intense battle would ensue with an enraged-boner hisoka against a determined kurapika... a Hisoka victory is just expected, it's just the means we're waiting for, so a bit of a twist mayhaps
I think there’s a point, after a lot more people die, that there’s this 8 person standoff and shit just goes down and the ship crashes onto the shore of the dark continent lol
I hope they team up and take out kurapika for interrupting
Post mortem nen hisoka just sounds insane dude was already max battle iq and all around stats almost maxed now he is like a battle genius with broken nen amp and he has some decent Intel on chrollo so this actually is very scary for chrollo because hisoka now has hidden ability none of us know with post mortem nen the true joker card
The true joker card I like that
I feel like hisoka will come back with a new ability. Just like chrollo.
Possibly 🤔
BEHOLD TEXTURE GUM WHICH HAS THE PROPERTIES OF BOTH BUNGEE GUM AND TEXTURE SURPRISE.
@@aldokurti3272 i laughed while sipping my coffee 😂
@@MichaelRodriguez-zr2ht 😂😂
He’s back already
Hisoka may not look it, but he's physically stronger than practically anyone in the troupe based on the arm wrestling rankings now that Uvo is dead. Phinks is the only member that's physically stronger than him.
By now, we all know Hisoka has very thick plot armor.
I think you're underestimating Machi. She experienced Hisoka's post-mortem nen first hand and she still decided to go it alone to find him. Machi would have to be confident in her own abilities and power that she can indeed take down Hisoka. Look at Shizuku and Bonolenov for example, they knew they couldn't stand a chance so they decided to team up with Chrollo. The Troupe are intelligent, Machi wouldn't be going alone if she knew she couldn't take down post-mortem nen Hisoka.
I think your overestimating tbh
Yeah, Nobunaga has no business being that high. He manages to rank 9th on the troupe arm wrestling rankings as an enhancer... Machi is 6th, I'm genuinely confused as to what makes people think Nobunaga is supposed to be one of the top tier fights in the troupe. Machi should be a bit higher here, as should Illumi who should be a tier above Feitan/Phinks.
@@vayne-he9yi agree+ the fact that chrollo put her alone with shikuzu and pakunoda on the same team in york new arc even though both had death predictions shows how much he has faith in her fighting abilities.
For some reason I don’t think that he’s gonna kill Machi. Hisoka said that he would kill “them all” when talking to her, but I don’t think that he includes Machi in that. I feel like she might be the only one that survives if we get that far lol
She stitched him up so what if there's like an undo ability
I agree that Hisoka's probably saving Machi for last (or last before Chrollo), but she's one of the Troupe members we've *never* seen in an altercation that lasted longer than one grapple or one trap set off. We don't know her real combat ability any more than we know Nobunaga's, and she seems to genuinely believe she could kill Hisoka on her own. She also has that uncanny "Intuition" that doesn't seem like a nen power but has nonetheless always been accurate, even when she thinks it wasn't (e.g. Killua *was* connected to the chain user, but he didn't know it at the time, so Paku got a false negative). Hisoka restrained her easily because she had turned her back on him and wasn't expecting to be attacked. She's not going to make that mistake again, and, while the following is pure speculation, I think Machi's intuition only failed her there because Hisoka didn't pose an immediate danger to her. [insert Spider Sense joke]
Hisoka also might not be able to resist taking his time with her, since he seems enamoured with her support ability to sew limbs back on. She can't rebuff him with price gouging if it's *her* limbs, after all. That could give her the time she needs to lure him into some kind of trap.
FYI, you mentioned Franklin is physically stronger than Hisoka, but I believe that Togashi said Hisoka is the 3rd strongest in arm wrestling (which could be perceived as physical strength) and Franklin is like 5 or 6th.
Poor Kurapica is having his whole reason for existence taken away.
Man literally is too horny to die the man's a literal Combataphiliac. Maybe he will have a new ability from coming back from the dead who knows
He's just like me fr
3:30 Fun Fact: Hisoka is actually stronger than franklin physically too
I originally followed you for your berserk reviews but after watching some of your HxH vids I started reading the manga, I really appreciate your vids and views on the series.
That aside, Feitan is definitely my #2 troupe member behind Chrollo. Hes for sure gonna give Hisoka/Kurapika a hell of a time when they finally clash
Watching this video made me realise that Hisoka is one of Hunter x Hunter’s protagonists alongside the other four (Leorio, Gon, Killua, Kurapika). He has his own goals and he wants to get stronger. In fact, I can argue that Hisoka is the mascot of Hunter x hunter because he is what makes the show unique. I can’t imagine Hunter x hunter without Hisoka.
I want to see something like Chrollo and Illumi vs Hisoka...and Kurapika. That would be way too mainstream for Togashi's tastes, but the hype levels of that matchup would briefly break the shonen internet scene for weeks and I'm ready for it.
I'm sure hisoka created a few new nen conditions specifically for the troupe, we already know he's beyond a natural genius seeing how he made one of the most broken post-death abilities we've seen, so keeping in mind that Bungie gum was an extremely simple ability to begin with, it would not surprise me if he has one or two new abilities, and the fact that he knows of kurapika's spider killing nen, he might've made some himself.
Hisoka , all of his fights before his death was a fair one on one fight it manifest to his character thats why he is active fighter as mma in heavens arena, he wins every single time. Except when he faced chrollo where he died and realized to win is to prepare your victory before hand... During his life before his death, he loves impromptu analysing his opponent like castro, goto, .. even his fight against chrollo himself where 99% on his head was just analysing chrollo plan, he just didnt even came up with his own counter plan. .
So he was very dangerous and smart during fair fight, how much more when he is now on the revenge mode
The reason chrollo won is because hisoka let him choose the place time and situation, and even with all that Hisoka was putting a fight. I believe that Hisoka would win against a fair 1v1
Yea but Chrollo whooped hisokas ass, it wasn’t a close fight the first time they went head to head which means there’s probably a good chance he can win again even with hisokas nen boost
We don’t know just how much more powerful hisoka has become when he revived himself. Not to mention bungie gum has the properties of BOTH rubber AND gum!
It is still unknown yet how much stronger Hisoka has gotten after his resurrection and he might even have developed some new nen abilities similar to how Chrollo had done before Heavens arena fight, but overall I agree with this tear list
Boxing mummy certainly got more chance than that kid
Nah
About franklin tho, his projectile is made out of nen so it wouldn’t bounce back, cause it’s not a physical object like the coins
why not? i feel liike nen would still bounce back
Hisoka is stronger than Franklin physically. Its been stated that Hisoka is 3rd in the PT when it comes to strength.
Feitan can't use his Sun at will as he needs to take quite a bit of damage first, and his "armor" is only there to protect him from the heat of his Sun and give him oxygen. Also Hisoka can boost his speed a lot with his Bunge Gum, so Feitan's speed isn't much of an advantage. Hisoka wins mid-diff.
The same applies to Phink's and his super slow attack and Nobunaga who admitted that Hisoka's Bunge Gum is difficult to deal with.
Chrollo only won because he had the location advantage, it won't be so easy when Hisoka attacks suddenly attacks him so I think Hisoka wins high-diff, especially since he got a post-mortem boost.
I think Feitan is below Illumi and Hisoka but above Phinks and Uvo
"I love my dorky goth babes, especially the ones that vacuum" -holy shit
Something tells me that there is a chance that Hisoka would actually kill all of the Troupe but would be stopped (maybe killed for good) by Kurapika so he can finishe them himself and that's gonna be the end of both of them :v
Or maybe even they would actually side with one another and fight the troupe together, but I'm guessing that'd be an (amazing) outnumbered fight
Idk. Like kurapika is maybe the only d-1 character in the boat to have no animosity against him for now
I think Hisoka might have some secret nen abilities that we don't know about yet and he is going to use them against the Spiders, but that's just my theory.
But he didn't use it before he died once ?
@@shima4080 He used only the Bungee gum when he fought Chrollo.
Seems like if he had some secret ability, he'd definitely would've used it against chrollo in heavens arena, but of course, it could he his other ability wasn't meant for a battle setting
I don't think so, the best part about him is that he does everything with that damned bungee gum 😭
@@TheVeritasForYou true, that's why it's hard to imagine him with another nen ability, except something outside of a battle setting
Thanks for the gratuitous shirtless picture of Hisoka towards the end! You’re the best Ryan!
😏😏
Great video man
Saw your Instagram post, here to support you and because I love your videos
I think you are vastly underestimating the weirdness going on with Hisoka & Illumi in this arc. My "theory" based on all the evidence between the two is that Hisoka is disguised as Illumi and Illumi is disguised as Hisoka - - At least some of the time. Both people now have the ability to use nen to look like other people if they want - - Hisoka, very literally, used Texture Surprise & Bungee Gum to recreate his missing body parts/clean up his face after losing to Chrollo. Why can't he make it look like someone else? There are too many weird inconsistencies between the two ( coupled with the manga cover with Illumi holding flowers and missing a mouth ) that speak to this. Hisoka's speech pattern sounds like it's supposed to be Illumi. He's saying things like "Let me ask you a question" - - When he'd normally just ask the question. Meanwhile, Illumi is wearing knee-pads ( a Hisoka staple ) and asking for things like a shower ( something Hisoka is seen doing frequently ), knowing full & well that Illumi has literally slept in a hold in the dirt before.
Aw mannnnn the editing in this video is great. Awesome stuff with the visual aids to whatever is being talked about in the video. Also, HxH is god tier
Bruh you forgot hisoka has post mortem nen now
I doubt we'll get half of these fights. In typical Togashi fashion, my guess is that we might get 1 fight, at most 3(for half of the spider members), and if the troupe dies, it won't be directly by Hisoka's hands but rather some catastrophe that occurs. There's a 50/50 chance we get a proper rematch...I mean- remember the last time(s) the series hyped up a fight? only to have a twist conclusion/development? I'd say there's actually a small but notable chance Hisoka dies in this arc.
Also about 3:24 while that's not improbable, I think his emission bullets would work differently then conjured or manipulated bullets, I don't think they would bounce upon contact with Bungee-Gum's transmuted nen, but rather dissipate after hitting it as a nen barrier of transmuted aura.(or they'd tear through the transmuted nen, either way, one dissapates/over-writes the other instead of affecting/influencing each other. the outcome probably comes down to which has a higher level of aura, it's all on how Franklin's enhancement and emission fair upgainst hisoka's enhancement. Hisoka has the advantage, but my point is that the bullets won't bounce...but I'm very curious to actually see the interaction).
I 100% agree with you. Reading the comments, not many see it that way. It is impossible for Hisoka, no matter how strong he is, to have so many NEN battles in a row. What I think is that it can surprise some when they are in other matters. It can also happen that some spiders die at the hands of some prince or Zodiac or another NEN user. Spiders are strong but not the strongest in the HxH world. As we always see, NEN strength or ability are not everything, it depends on the mental state and preparation. Hisoka is calm while the spiders are in a state of search and alert, which can generate quite a bit of fatigue as well.Not to mention that they also want to attack the mafias and everything that comes their way. Probably the Hisoka vs Spiders arc will continue after disembarking, unless of course there is a great war between everyone that I don't see very possible
@@shoganaix Or alternatively the cruise doesn't get to disembark. we could see a large scale catastrophe occur(the war is already in place, it's just more of a cold war, with threat of it all blowing to ash if the wrong buttons are pushed). after all, there's a few elements in place that might hint to an 'escape' option for the survivors to make it out of said potential catastrophe(such as the supply drops one can order, perhaps using them for a trip back). It's 50/50 imo, I can see things going so badly that the cruise doesn't make it, and only 20 or 100 survivors make it back to the main world(maybe others find unique ways to make it to the destination).
in favor of the equally likely possibility that they make it- introducing so many characters so as to have new and appropriate pieces to use on the dark continent should they arrive makes sense for Togashi. He might have realized he needs more new pieces to tell the story of the next arc.
One thing that is missed here is the grudge of Kurapika against the phantom troupe so, if hisoka and kurapika co-op on beating chrollo considering Kurapika's ability that seals the deal
Lets not forget that Chrollo had to batman prep and fight in an arena that benefits his style heavily. Hisoka was disadvantaged completely in their fight
I’m genuinely surprised by the responses and the video. As the spider dies it adapts and we may see new nen abilities from existing members. Yes at this moment, hisoka can probably beat every one, will he, I’m not so sure.
I think with some of the match-ups you're forgetting that Hisoka is more powerful now as now he wields post mortem nen, for example Hisoka and Ilumi might have been equals before but now Hisoka has a pretty blantant power-up that could give him a very solid edge (also I think you're underestimating Hisokas speed and overestimating Feitans speed).
Theory : Illumi and his sibling was probably hired by Hisoka to help him kill the phantom troupe. Hisoka not looking for the phantom troupe because he already knows where they are…🤯 Also I feel like Hisoka is going to pull this through one way or another. He’s destined to fight Gon so he’s definitely going to survive and what not.
There’s just too many variables for me to decide
1-how much stronger is this new Hisoka
2-fetans hatsu
3-Chrollos other abilities
You also gotta understand, if feitan really did have that good of a chance of beating hisoka, then chrollo would've just used his abilities instead when they fought
no he just came up with a strategy and won no-diff why more abilities
Damn I want this anime to continue. I don't have the time to read the manga, but I really want to continue experiencing XhX. Thank you for the videos!
i feel like hisoka will take care of the majority of the phantom troupe before dying then we will see kurapika cleaning up the rest
Togashi is genius for creating such a creep so good, this character is fun favourite.
Hisoka should be hated yet it is one of the most popular character in shounen manga/anime
Togashi made us forget Hisoka wants to kill any fighter he sees as a challenge including Gon and Killua. He's a psychopath who is incapable of developing genuine bonds with people. There's always an agenda and he'll kill Gon and Killua once they're ripe for battle regardless of their journeys together.
About the Chrollo fight it's not just that he picked the abilities, but very likely at least 3 Phantom Troupe members directly interfered in the fight (the ones that showed up right after). Chrollo also neeed like 2 months of prep and picked the battlegrounfd, It';s not just Hisoka no longer cares about having Fair Fights, thats just with the Phantom Troupe directly
Nice video
nice!
imo i dont think any of them stand a chance against chroollo i did like how u brought up they are in groups for sure if feitan and nobu group all jumped him he would die, but imo hisoka is gonna make it 1v1,
Absolutely. He's gonna have to separate them
I believe that Hisoka could potentially kill the majority of the members, but when it comes to the head, I would like to see a battle between Chrollo and Kurapika after Chrollo losing all the members of the Troupe and being broken like Kurapika, it would be amazing and brilliant seeing Chrollo in the same position as Kurapika, and then both having a battle to death and dying together, Hisoka´s future is uncertain, I still believe Illumi is not there just to add fuel to all this already crazy situation, I see him as an undercover agent working for Hisoka, but we will see, Togashi really loves Hisoka, he always like the chaotic element in his storylines, so until Hisoka can´t offer nothing else to the story he definitely is gonna be around, also Hisoka right now in terms of physical strength is the second in the Troupe ranking, he´s only behind Phinks, he is stronger than Franklin, Feitan and Chrollo are superior to him on the velocity area, otherwise I definitely see that a potential alliance between Hisoka and Kurapika and this alliance could be decisive and a major factor change, I see Hisoka able to end all the members in one on one combat, and more taking into account that this Hisoka has a new way of approaching combats now, he is over fair fights, still I saw Chrollo having the upper hand, but an eventual rematch isn´t gonna be as easy as it was the first time for Chrollo, and as Morel said in nen battles anything is posible, unless we are talking about Netero, Meruem, Gon and the Royal Guards
My guess is that Hisoka will be the only one left alive at the end of the series. Kurapika seems to be heading towards death already. Of the four mains, Gon and Killua somehow got a happy ending (though not their ideal ending so far). Maybe Leoririo and Kurapika will have sadder ending considering they also have the saddest backstories.
Kurapika will survive and protect wobble
Hey guys, I made a similar video ranking the Troupe members from best to worst! - Check it out here :D th-cam.com/video/kNfVzBQuAu4/w-d-xo.html
I'm not caught up at all but I feel like Hisoka will manipulate Kurapika into taking some of the bad matchups or situations that aren't good for him. He's teamed up with him before in York New and I don't see why he wouldn't get in contact again.
It’s been so long that I forgot Ryan was a Berserk dude who I watched many videos of Berserk content
The one I disagree with the most is probably Machi. It’s already hard enough to gauge how well the phantom troupe would do in fights since we barely see their abilities let alone see them fight. But from what we’ve seen from Machi so far I definitely think she would at least give Hisoka a very hard time, she seems to be one of the faster phantom troupe members being able to stop gon in less than a second- the same gon who fought Hisoka at Heavens Arena (I know Hisoka wasn’t fighting at his best but none the less). We haven’t seen any speed feats from Hisoka that trump Machi’s, especially without his bungee gum.
Machi’s nen threads are also formidable, not only being able to restrain which we’ve seen she’s very good at- but also have a lethal edge being able to slice and snap limbs that we haven’t seen Hisoka be able to do. Not to mention you Nobunoga the win despite us not knowing his abilities and Machi rankings higher than him in arm wrestling so basically being physically stronger. Also if confidence matters Machi was very confident that she would be able to fight against Phinks and Feitan to let Paku go, and even after the fact when the talk about killing her she’s still confident saying it won’t be easy to kill her. If we don’t factor in any unknown abilities from the two I think the battle comes down to who can basically trap who first, which would mean speed is probably the biggest factor- so from what we seen I think Machi would win but if she doesn’t she at the very least would give him a very hard time.
Also, Machi's abs defeated Killua
You litterly rejected the whole point that Hisoka is much stronger after Post Mortum! Just like how Pitou became stronger after Death, clearly this version of hisoka is not the same as the before one in power,speed,stamina,iq,etc.... so no machi does not stand a chance
@@AlucardAlucard-st6xr The version of Hisoka I was specifically talking about was the anime version, but even talking about the manga his post mortem nen didn’t make him stronger. If you go back and reread/rewatch the first time post mortem nen is explained isn’t that the nen becomes stronger after death, it’s that it persists/keeps going. Even in your example with Pitou, Pitou’s nen kept going because of post mortem nen- but it was stronger because of fueled by Pitou’s very strong loyalty to the king. So even if we talk about post mortem nen Hisoka I don’t think his nen is necessarily stronger and what I sad about Machi still stands.
Shizuku is definitely gonna die. Her prophecy said so crystal clear
Oh I'm so ready for this.
Lets hope we get to see any of this matches.
Since he revived his nen should be massively stronger right? How big is the amp I’m curious
Hisoka in a suit in menacing.
The thing about killing Feitan is that it has to be fast and that’s not an easy task.
I assume Hisoka got a major power amp from the post mortem nen. Allowing him to win against any troop member in a 1v1.
I hope Hisoka does nothing bad to my precious Shizuku.
She’s too weak. I doubt he would catch his eye. Then again he might just do it to get back at chrollo and be petty. I think this arc is gonna end where both chrollo and Hisoka both die.
Hisoka and Kurapika are the spider's nightmare
I do think that there's no way Hisoka will have a 1 v 1 fight with anyone of them it's gonna involve some mafia guys, some sodiacs and perhaps a prince on those battles but at the end I think Hisoka will win, he's my last boss against gon
Remember that Hisoka is technicly dead and his nen is way stronger than the time he fight chrollo in heavens arena. If he loses head or some limbs he could just stick them again with bungee gum or even create new limb with bungee gum. That gives Hisoka opening to fight more recklessly and more unpredictabely. I don't even mention that Hisoka know phantom troupe abilities soo he could just setup some traps with post-morlat bungee gum and possibrly one shots mkst of troupe members. Only high diff is Chrollo, but heavens arena match was kinda close, soo that post mortal nen boost could fill that gap in power to equal match
The thing about Hisoka vs Chrollo is that Hisoka has stronger Nen now having the Nen after death boost.
Normally when a Nen user dies and his Nen activates something after death such as if Kurapika's Nen attacked Chrollo, the user doesn't have access to the boosted Nen because they are dead but since Hisoka managed to survive, he should now in theory have stronger Nen than before.
Couple that with the fact that Chrollo now doesn't have access to two of the Nen abilities he had before and can be blindsided by Chrollo instead of planning for him, I think Hisoka takes it.
"Suck my bungee gum". I think I just got me a new pick up line for otaku girls, thanks.
I think machi and chrolo, ilumi are the only ones with ability to win and reasonably take him out
i rlly feel like the fight is gonna end in the most unorthodox way possible with no clear winner. maybe they will all die
Did you put Kaluto above Shizuku and Bonolenov?
Yep, and that's just the tip of the iceberg of what is wrong with this video.
hisoka post morten death takes down illumi high-extreme
When you talked about hisoka vs illumi who were you talking about hisoka with postmortem nen or hisoka without it
i think we can all agree that we dont know who will will
I think Nobunaga has somewhat a decent shot and pushing Hisoka.
I don't think Nobu could win, but I think it wouldn't be a free with.
Phinx whould die twisting his arm backwars with the bungie gum
Are these new chapters?
It took three months of planning in order to go up against hisoka and now hisoka won't lose again
this ranking is so wrong bro
One thing to be remembered about the current Hisoka is he is alot stronger then in heavens arena because post mortem nen is alot stronger then normal nen and gave Hisoka a considerable boost i think personally the 3 Hardest fights for Hisoka would be Chrollo, Illumi and Feitan.
With Bungee Gum and the boost through post mortem nen i think he claps everybody up till Maki Phinks would be a mid difficulty and Nobonaga might be Still hard to fight atleast from our view and as said Illumi, Chrollo and Feitan would be the Hardest battles i think.
Machi is obviously a harder fight than Nobunaga, this guy was capping like crazy in multiple parts of the video.
I read that If someone comes back from death, his nen will be stronger. So when hisoka said he will kill every spider, he was very sure about it.👍💀
Hisoka's buff might be modest but we still can't discard the possibility he now might have sufficient power to swiftly assassinate at least some of the members
I feel like Hisoka could join the Heil-Ly and cause chaos from there. Hinrigh has already given him all the info about it and he knows the other two groups (and the Troupe) are after them. Plus he didn’t actually take the tier one token. 🌚
It’s interesting though bc Morena is yet to kiss someone who already uses Nen. Would Hisoka get another ability or would his current ones be enhanced? Or would it have no effect? Maybe he’ll kill a few members to get to lvl 21 quickly. So many possibilities
I'm a spiders fan, but Hisokas unkillable
As a Spider fan muse Traflagar D Law would solo the verse
I can't see Hisoka killing Machi. Notably, she's not on his toys list too (miscolored Silva in the anime)
I wanna say, physically Hisoka is stronger than Franklin. There's a canon arm wrestling rankings: Hisoka is on the 3d place and Franklin on 4th.
+ Nobunaga admitted that Hisoka`s nen power is above his. That's the reason why Feitan and Phinks joined Nobunaga (they said it in the manga too).
Accurate tier list!
Nope.
5:05 just a correction here, yes I would absolutely agree that they were evenly matched before hisoka invoked post mortem nen, but current hisoka would most definitely mop the floor with ilumi, his bungee gum got a massive power boost, hisoka is basically cheating because post mortem nen is over powered because you basically use your life to use it, but hisoka is alive, and can still use it.
Just wanted to throw that out there.
Dude misunderstood what post mortem nen does.
I think this battle is going to bleed into the Succession War, it won't just be a matter of Hisoka vs. each individual troupe member although I think a few of them probably will get picked off by Hisoka eventually and Hisoka has a good shot at victory in every 1v1 situation (I agree with this list except for the fact that I view Illumi as about the same threat level as Feitan given his physical abilities in addition to his nen abilities. Also I think Phinks should be slightly lower because I just feel there's zero chance that Hisoka gets hit by Phinks's punch in a 1v1).
My feeling is that Kurapika will change the object of his revenge from the Troupe to Tserriednich because it was hinted that in addition to all the scarlet eyes he has in his possession, the 4th prince may also have the actual preserved body of Kurapika's best friend Pairo. I think the sight of that alone will cause Kurapika to go all out and potentially even team up with the Troupe to kill Tserriednich, who I think at this rate is becoming an even bigger potential threat than anyone else on the ship given the rate of his improvement. There's so many heavy weights in this fight, it's really going to be amazing when it all comes to a head finally
This list is laughably bad, freaking Nobunaga has absolutely no buisness above Phinks, Illumi and Machi(especially with a goddamn hestitation bonus), and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Chrolo won when he had batman level of prep, and he used kortopi and shalnark abilities, which he doesn't have anymore because Hisoka killed them (probrably so Chrolo wouldn't use it against him anymore).
And Hisoka now got his post-mortum nen boost, don't know how this works but it's not wrong to assume he is stronger than when he fight Chrolo, while Chrolo is weaker than before since he lost the 2 abilities he used to beat him.
So unless Chrolo manages to find some OP skill to counter this stronger Hisoka, he is pretty dead
Why is Illumi Neutral Difficulty, while Phinx and Feitan are High Difficulty. I know its your opinion, but Hisoka and Illumi have been portrayed as rivals/equals throughout the anime, and their fight has been hyped for so long. I also believe that Hisoka and Illumi are superior to every member of the troupe besides Chrollo. From this, if Illumi and Hisoka are equals, (as you said), then Illumi along with Chrollo should be the members Hisoka has extreme diff against.
Yeah ! I was thinking the same.
He underestimates illumi a lot
I think it’s gonna take Ging and Kurapika for Hisoka to kill all of them.
Hisoka is not really wrong in trying to kill the spiders. He is a hunter and it is his job to defeat evil people (like how Netero fought the Ant King). Do you still remember how the Spiders massacred the aunction house and killed many innocent people not involved in the mafia? Chrollo even said take all the loot. Yes, they did philanthropy but it was for show mainly.
This shows that Chrollo was a sociopath and an obsessive leader.