Could the Phantom Troupe take down Meruem?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ก.พ. 2020
- In this video, we go over Hunter x Hunter 's Phantom Troupe vs King of the Chimera Ants, Meruem. We also go over Adult Gon, Godspeed Killua, Netero, and Meruem's Royal Guard, Neferpitou (Pitou), Youpi, and Shiapouf compared VS eachother as well in terms of strength, speed, and intelligence.
The Phantom Troupe will include: Chrollo Lucilfer, Nobunaga, Feitan, Machi, Kalluto, Phinks, Franklin, Shizuku, Bonolenov, Hisoka, Shalnark, Uvogin, Pakunoda, Kortopi, and Illumi Zoldyck.
(Includes material from the HxH manga, the HxH Hunters Manual Guidebook, and Yu ☆ Yu ☆ Hakusho Official Character Book (Shueisha Jump remix))
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I've seen some people comment about Kite and his scaling so I'll answer some questions and stuff here most of them don't actually really effect anything in the video but I'll clarify:
For Kite's near death ability, it should be important that it's supposed to stop him from dying, reincarnation is a post death ability. Now while I do think it's heavily implied it causes him to reincarnate, I still think that it being a "good spin" and causing Pitou to genuinely think he's a good fight implies more than that, and amplified his ability. Remember, Knuckle, who is scared of Pitou and gets bullied to oblivion by Youpi, is stated to physically equal to Kite, and Kite is never once ever implied to be near Pitou's level. Even Killua doesn't even bring Kite up to scare Netero, despite knowing Kite's ability, he brings up Hisoka and Illumi, which further implies an amp to me, even Ging only theorizes what Kite's ability does, it's never confirmed so of course I'm not going to claim I 100% know either. I'm not saying it's OBJECTIVELY true, and in fact, Kite isn't important really AT ALL for scaling the Troupe. This is the same for me saying he bodied leader and officer ants, which didn't have nen. Once again, the Troupe vs the Ants is moreso class scaling, then actually relying on Kite for anything. Even looking back I could've removed Kite from the entire video and nothing would change. And even if you want to absolutely say that Kite didn't get any amp from Pre-Death, then he'd have simply gotten an amp from getting a good spin.
I've also heard an argument that Hisoka is stronger after dying. And while post mortem nen is stronger, there is no proof Hisoka has permanent post mortem nen, if anything his bungee gum had post mortem nen which he used to revive himself. (Reviving implying he's not dead) Only his bungee gum that restarted his heart is confirmed to be stronger.
Also people are commenting on the arm wrestling and nen, saying the nen is not involved in the arm wrestling... Which I also said in this video and confirmed was absolutely the case even in combat scaling. I don't see why people are complaining about that.
And this video is under the premise that they're in a confrontation with Meruem, not that they couldn't somehow find a way to nuke him or something.. Obviously a rose would beat him, but that's not the point of the video the video is talking about combat scaling.
Also I'm aware Kalluto is a boy, and that Pitou is an It, when I wrote the script I try to imagine the characters and just pictured a female and usually give them their usual gender identity, kind of like what Killua does with Alluka but without the absolute confirmation they want it that way, which I probably shouldn't do. My bad. I even called Pitou a girl one time despite calling it an it like 10 other times in the video (it can also be referred to as he if you're mainly manga but I use it to be indifferent), it's a common error I make when writing.
"Youpi couldn't instantly defeat Knuckle or Shoot" Youpi wasn't at his full potential and didn't understand how to use Nen until the very end, and it's implied he can evolve further beyond that. Pitou doesn't have the same weaknesses in talent, and was pretty much fully evolved from the get-go. Youpi being 10x stronger and it being stated "It is impossible for Shoot to beat Youpi" even without Nen abilities or any strategy does in fact confirm what I'm saying, it is not an anti-feat against me. Youpi is also specifically stated to be non strategic and wasn't even going all vs Shoot with it being confirmed he was absolutely going to win even without nen abilities or strategy (Volume 26, Page 16, Page 39)
"If you use the stat books Komugi can beat Zushi!!" No, the stat books only have Komugi with higher total stats than Zushi, but these stats include things like Talent, Intelligence, Willpower and so on, which she used purely for board games. Zushi and Komugi are both just stated to be bottom tiers in terms of strength and combat ability but with Zushi actually having nen ability whereas Komugi has virtually 0. Total stats =|= stronger in the HxH databooks.
"The series tries to convey fights through Randomness!" We've seen plenty of fights and have plenty of information on straight up 1v1 fights in HxH without "randomness." And I hardly can recall any reason why anything I said in the video is something that can be somehow narrative randomized in a VS vacuum, especially when I'm using pretty objective statements about their scaling like "The most formiddable character they've ever seen!" "It was impossible for him to win!" -Narrator "This character blitzes people relative to this character!", "He can one shot people stronger than this character, therefore-" etc. Bizarre and irrelevant argument.
All in all I think most criticisms of the video are over minor details and not my main argumentation, but even then I'm finding a lot of these "criticisms" a little off balance and don't really make a lot of sense. I think my only real screw up was with calling Kalluto a girl and not giving numeorus prophylactic counters for some of these casual VS thoughts in the comments, but the video was 32 minutes as was when I recorded it and was cut down. Didn't want to make a 1 hour long video countering every conceivable idea people could come up with, like "what if they just run away and grab a nuke and nuke meruem in this VS Battle and power scaling setting!!!" like, c'mon..
"Morel was only at 35% and Pouf didn't dominate him" Pouf psychologically manhandled Morel then took his pipe and threw it in a river with zero effort. Also, in HxH, Aura is not like Ki in Dragon Ball where your power decreases hyper linearly as your energy does. For example, Knuckle Explains that if you have 10,000 Aura and you punch, maybe you use 80 Aura per punch, and your ultimate move uses like 1,000 through 2,000. It's more like a gas tank, not a power level, although, it allows you to put more gas into your attacks if you use that much aura if that makes sense. So unless Morel has an attack that uses over 35% of his total aura in one attack, which not even Gon's enhancer attack that amps his punch by 10x necessarily does, there's no reason to suspect that this 35% capacity is some serious nerf. Especially if they only fought for an instant and all that happened was Pouf bullied him and flew away to find Pitou and Meruem.
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Love your stuff please keep the hunter x hunter content coming👍🏿
SethTheProgrammer bro honestly you’re right kite’s scaling truly doesn’t matter in terms of this video but then there are people who want kite’s scaling to be as accurate as possible but then again I also want you to make a video scaling JUST kite but that’s because his strength is weird in cases as he is able to make the captain-level ants shit themselves but he gets slapped by Poitou. Which I think happened due to kite’s inability to raise his strength in time for the absolute unit that is Poitou like when Goku got shot and hurt by a bullet to get to the point I think kite is on par with Poitou in ability (may be pure head canon but decent guess) but he was slapping with a number four roll and barely beating a captain with a six so I believe kite’s full power is on par or at least comparable to Poitou 🔴however I am not caught up to the manga🔴
SethTheProgrammer, Could you power Organization 13 from Kingdom Hearts?
Discord ? I was in it but I got locked out my account the name is nightwolf
Yeah, but Bungee gum contains both properties of rubber and gum
A power that surpasses Jiren for sure
catman9222 not even jiren it clearly surpasses whis
@@Daviyah_yisrael Possibly Zeno level? But that's just speculation at this point
Meruem will be too dumbfounded. I don't think he's ever seen rubber or gum, never mind something that shares the property of both.
Too bad Hisoka isn’t a real member of the troupe. I bet Pika would die if she attacked him
Short answer: no
Long answer: lol no
😂😂😂 this is great
Actually, phantoms can win. All they need is to make the king wound. Then Shizuku can suck the blood off.
@@ismailfaalih9559 well it's not that easy to cut the king lmao if netero couldn't so my answer to your reply is: (read my comment again)
@@ismailfaalih9559 Actually Shizuku said the wounds can be covered so Meruem can do that
@@darkghostgamings22 Netero didn't have any fancy tricks, he was just stronk hands go boom
Chrollo has some fancy tricks that could do a number on meruem
beginning of the video: You might be thinking that the troupe has no chance of defeating meruem but let's look at their abilities. End of the video: The troupe really doesn't have any chance of defeating meruem
Lmao
All your preps, abilities and plans are useless against someone that can literally blitz and one shot you before you know what is happening
LMAO
Even with OP abilities like the ones feitan, phinks, and chrollo have, it still wouldn't be enough, especially if it's after meruem absorbed power from youpi and pouf. Chrollo's ability alone would be too risky since he obviously wouldn't be able to steal anything from meruem and I don't think he has any abilities that are strong enough to do damage to the king. Love the troupe, but I don't think anything is stronger than the ants other than whatever's in the dark continent
Edit: the troupe are smart and good at planning things, but like ace said above, it's useless against someone that can one-shot you in seconds lol.
@@aceclover758 nah not if chrollo steals some hax abilities.
But if meruem was serious he could eat users of hax abilities himself.
I love how the community has come together and decided tonpa is the strongest anime character in existence 🗿
he is
No, ramen guy is
@@tyresejeffers7857 I mean you do have a point👀
Wut
@@tyresejeffers7857 lol
Hard to believe meruem can deal with the properties of rubber AND gum at the same time
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That would be impossible for him too
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Not possible for him to deal with that its too strong
Yeah but Meruem would body him in Gungi. Wait... texture surprise... Hisoka really do be unbeatable.
Meruem: *basically god*
chrollo and Hisoka: *gum and a book*
Sometimes the way characters use their nen abilities is what makes them dangerous. Otherwise, Gotoh's nen ability, which according to him was *firing coins with more power than bullets* should've defeated Hisoka, whose nen ability is *gum* . And Meruem wasn't a god. Gods don't die to poison and don't get beat in a board game. In episode 135 Meruem himself said that he isn't a god.
Mindless J but what does the book have inside, and what are the properties of this gum 🤔
// this comment was a joke I beleive....
@@CE77777
The properties are both of rubber and gum
Austin Blochlinger it was😂 I didn’t mean to upset anybody
Meruem survived a nuclear blast, which astute viewers will know have the properties of both nuclear and blast. No chance the Troupe gets near beating him.
Did you forget about feitans pain packer it hits with the power of the sun
@@PzDallas he died from radiation poisoning from the nuke
@@PzDallas he was hurt thats why youpi had to give up most of his body
@@PzDallas survived with medical treatment basically. idk if he would have just taken a real long time to heal or something otherwise
No he died. He was still conscious but he was about to die.
you said it pefectly. Meruem was conceived as someone who wasn't supposed to be even on the scaling. The scale doesn't apply to him, because he is even far above the scale itself. That was done due to the story that Togashi wanted to tell. The evil Meruem, who kinda went through a abridged version of a hero's journey. With him being more powerful than anyone in the series, he didn't have to struggle physically, but his emotions got triggered when he met Komugi. This weak blind girl, who he could've obliterated out of existence without her even noticing. But she beat him in that game over and over again, which is what he needed and finally he found someone who is his peer and that is what made him become more human. So he needed to be that strong for this storyline to work as well as it did.
The contrast to Gon's descent into madness is also a masterclass if this manga / anime. I love Meruem as a character and Gon's character development as well.
Its funny that his pride led him to find happiness, he couldn't accept losing to what he thought was a worthless person. So he kept her alive until he can win because if he kind her out of frustration he would've forever been a loser at gungi. But in doing so, playing against her, he found greater joy in facing an opponent who can truly challenge him, and learn to appreciate that strength comes in many forms, he forms respect and admiration for her, later turning into love.
His journey is really well written, because even tho he did some terrible things, and was still planning to assert his will over others, creating a society based on meritocracy by force, we still sort of root for him to be happy.
Strange enough, in the Dark Continent his species isn't the top dog, so we probably are yet to meet the really disasters/dangerous creatures that permeate it.
@@258Loures we've met one through alluka/nanika
Yeah tho i don't think we need another species that seeks world domination that is simply stronger, if humans could only hope to gain time against the guards and never touch Meruem there's no point in rising the bar, it would be exactly as effective even if the new threat was x100 stronger
"Some people think hisoka can give meruem some trouble alone"
Meruem: The most powerful character yet
Hisoka: I have the power of both rubber and gum
I am imagining if he is able to get even excite when he ancounter king
How hisoka scratch meruem skin? Even netero needs over thousand punch to scratch him? Can follow meruem speed?
@@garindaburnama2843 he has the power of both rubber and gum
Zhi Xun Pek Hisoka stood y’all against Razor don’t underestimate him
nope hisoka cant even defeat chorollo
Tonpa would crush Meruem like the rookie he is using his special ability, Deluxe juice can. Same goes for the Troupe
That ain’t even debatable at that point
Bruh, talk about mismatch. Tonpa is way too powerful for anyone in the HXH universe to take on him. At least Zeno level, easily
Ofcourse
Tonpa could take on prime Netero and post-nuke Meruem at the same time. Low diff ofc
@@Xdlol-xx6jf has the manga started back?
I just want to see Gon as a full grown adult finally having his fight to death with Hikosa lol
Adult gon would destroy hisoka
@@reflux9782 ^ Yep
@@reflux9782 I don't know about that. If Hisoka is waiting for Gon to become stronger, then he must be confident enough that when they fight in the future, at the very least it wouldn't be an easy victory for either one of them. Do you honestly believe that Hisoka is waiting for Gon to train and grow more just to get easily killed by him? It would be very anticlimactic, especially considering Hisoka vs Gon is one of the most anticipated fights in the series, and Gon winning with ease wouldn't live up to the expectations. Besides, Hisoka himself has plenty of potential - he can grow and get stronger. So if and when they fight each other, Hisoka may be stronger compared to the current Hisoka.
@@kaisamurai9868 adult gon would one shot hisoka
@@mustafatantani3915 Wow, what an argument.
Meruem is literally immune to physical dmg. Even Netero needed millions of blows to make him feel something similar to pain. Meruem on the other hand just had to touch him to rip one of his legs out and after that flower nuke he became even stronger. Meruem was on a whole different powerscaling than the other hunters. There were just a handfull of characters who could pose a problem for his pre nuke form.
It was thousands of blows not millions. I get that its just semantics but it was only a couple thousand
I don’t think you know what literally means
@@snowman9631 it was after hundred thousands not a couple
@ercterburn1053 No, it really wasn't... HxH characters aren't that strong or fast.
The translations literally say "was an exchange of more than a thousand punches." Or "an exchange that exceeded a thousand" If it was really in the 10s or 100s, they would say so.
I feel like only Adult Gon could have a chance at defeating Meruem or heck we may even need Adult Killua for post Nuclear Meruem
"Spoilers for anime watchers"
ok, time to leave
then before I can even leave
"When hisoka starts killing troupe members"
WHEN HISOKA WHAT?!
Hisoka vs C. Lucifer is dope. Rampage time for Hisoka
This fuckin happens to me lmao. He should've at least pause 3 seconds for us to escape this spoiler.
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Yeah, two already died lol
doesn’t matter man, the anime never coming back 😔
More like " How fast can Meruem kill all of the Phantom Troupe "
0.1 second
I'd say around a minute at most.
The thing is Meruem was premature as well so he would have been even stronger if he fully developed
Haha with one swipe
Filip Ferenčak if they run fast enough sure a minute
Hisoka killing more spiders then Kurapika and he made his ability around killing them
Hisoka has only killed two
Kurapika has killed two as well
So dunno what you mean by Hisoka killing more
@Muhammedlee due to Kurapika’s Judgement chain
ITs like a person having a bomb armed and strapped to their body by me but they trigger the explosion.
Either way, this oringal comment is stupid since Hisoka has only killed 2 Spiders, not more than Kurapika or even “tied’ with him if you want to look at it that way
Kurapika isn't bothered by the spiders anymore. After what happened in Yorknew City, he decided to focus on getting the eyes
@@aceclover758 Hiskoa has killed 3 members.
That’s only because kurapika is only interested in getting all of the scarlet eyes back. He could still target and take out most of the troupe if he wanted to, but that’s no longer his main priority.
Honestly the chimera ant threat could’ve been eliminated with less casualties if they’re was a more pragmatic person at the head of the Hunter association. On the other hand the reason Netero was so damn strong was bc he was insanely selfish and prideful the epitome of a Hunter and that’s why at the ripe old age of 100 something he chose to lead a 3 man team and fighting meruem by himself.
The thing is, the ant extermination was heavily sabotaged by Pariston. He basically rejected many applications to personnel (which some may had some exotic ability that could tilt the chips heavily on the human's favor)
Bruh just get an anti-bug spray 😂
Deas ass😂😂😂
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@No1sy you deadass just bacame the strongest person on earth by defeating meruem when netero sacraficed it all omfg what was the point in all the deaths
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meruem stomps no cap, royal guards vs phantom troupe would be dope tho
The BOI facts
The Royal guards would stomp
@@justtoolit6051 There is a chance for the Phantom Troupe to defeat the Royal Guards. Kite was missing an arm, yet was still able to fight Pitou, and make it enjoyable enough for her to want to bring him back to life to fight him again. We don't even know whether the nen ability he rolled against Pitou was made for fighting, since Ging mentions later in the series that there's a nen ability Kite rolls to not die in a dangerous situation(if it's something like a reincarnation nen ability, then it isn't for fighting). Pitou's injuries after fighting Kite weren't shown to be as prominent in the anime as they were in the manga at the end of chapter 199, in which she was shown to have multiple cuts. Right before the start of the invasion Morel said that his own physical and mental conditions were 35 out of 100, yet he still survived against Pouf 1 vs 1, while being inside of the smoke and after deactivating it. Pouf even said that Morel had a chance of killing him, if he searched for Pouf inside of the cocoon, instead of deactivating his smoke(chapter 286). Youpi almost lost his nen to Knuckle's nen ability. The narrator said that he was minutes, if not seconds, away from losing his nen. And Youpi never fought all of his opponents during the invasion at once. Most of the time he fought from 1 to 3 characters(counting Meleoron) at the same time. Shoot was able to keep up with Youpi 1 vs 1 for a while. And in the chapter 106 of the hxh manga, the narrator said that every member of the Phantom Troupe has at least one nen ability that the other members don't know about. Also, Kurapika created 5 different nen abilities during the 6 months he was learning nen. The Phantom Troupe members have all known nen for much longer than 6 months, so there's a chance we haven't seen all of their nen abilities. Chrollo has a book full of nen abilities.
While I think Pitou could probably body the Phantom Troupe, the Troupe could be like Netero and use Human-made things to kill Pitou instead.
Actually, if the Poor Man's Rose could kill Meruem... If the Phantom Troupe can set a few of those off, they might be able to kill the Ants.
@@flickersense Your reasons do not apply to a fight with the Phantom Troupe. Nobody was able to damage Youpi, and while Knuckles ability is trouble, no one in the Troupe has that ability. And Pouf had no interest in fighting Morel at that point, so there is nothing to get from that fight.
The weaker Spiders would get killed immediately by Pitou and Youpi. Thats Shal, Kortoupi, Shizuku, Paku, and Bono, all dead. The only one that could possibly damage Youpi is Feitan, maybe. And his injuries would have to be great enough that he cant really fight after using his nen ability. I dont think it would kill Youpi, but Phinks could finish him off afterwards if he was charging during Feitan's fight. That takes care of 1 ant.
Pouf is a tricky match-up, none of the enhancers can really do anything. So Uvo, Nobunaga, are kinda useless. I dont see how Machi and Franklin can beat Pouf either. That means that you HAVE to use Chrollo against him, with Franklin as an assist. 2 ants down.
That leaves Nobunaga, Uvo, and Machi versus Pitou. This one is interesting. With the right strategy the Spiders could win, this is assuming that Nobu can react to Pitou's attacks if she enters his En. Otherwise they are gonna get killed. Machi is the most vulnerable, so Nobu and Uvo have to hold Pitou's attention so she doesnt blitz Machi. Then Machi can use her threads during the fight to suprise and impair Pitou's movement enough for Uvo and Nobu to deal lethal damage in the brief opportunity.
Given the feats and portrayal of the Royal Guard, I think its easier to assume that Feitan cannot deal enough damage to Youpi. And that Nobunaga cannot react to Pitou. And if thats the case then the entire fight crumbles and the ants win. But the Troupe has a fair chance, the match-up is close to even. The wildcard is ofcourse Chrollo, if he finds a way to deal with Pouf quickly, then he can assist in other fights and then it snowballs in the Troupe's favor.
The Phantom Troupe would get crushed. None of them are strong enough to take a hit from the King. During pretty much all of his fight with netero, the king wasn't really trying to kill him. Also, he gained a lot of power after he was regenerated. Following that he still has space to grow.
The Troupe if they directly confronted him would each get blitz and one shot one shot.
None of them would have the reaction to even see Meruem nor take a hit from him, even Uvo if he was alive.
He was trying, but took his time to achieve something that would prove his overwhelming superiority
@Robel Habte deez nuts
@@aceclover758 This. They are human after all. And king is super fast to the point that it would be quite difficult to react to his attacks. To predict his movements, react, defend and use abilities to counter all at the same time is close to impossible to Troupe members. Not to mention King was insane durability so any attack that hits him somehow is likely to have no effect.
hisoka is techincally a joker but i wouldnt consider him 100% a phantom
Nah fam, these chimera ants are nothing compared to my RAIDS bug spray
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Well, he DID die poisoned
@@guifdcanalli raid dont even kill cockroaches. what about a super powered beast of nature.
Lol
FBI how about a RAZOR to give phantom troupes some shaving
"Godspeed, which is faster than any other character"
"Godspeed is surpassing the human limits"
Meanwhile grandma following killua on a bike like a boss.
I don't know what gives people the idea of no characters being able to react to or to move as fast as Godspeed Killua, considering that *even before transforming into a motorbike, his butler(Tsubone) was able to follow Godspeed Killua on her own in the forest* . Also:
1. The first time Killua hit Youpi with his lightning, it was a surprise attack, since Killua was invisible with Meleoron and Youpi was focused on Knuckle. But getting hit by that lightning might have affected Youpi's reaction speed which in turn affected his ability to react to Godspeed Killua later.
2. Knuckle was able to dodge countless of Youpi's attacks, and Shoot even kept up with Youpi in a 1 vs 1 fight, by dodging Youpi's attacks and even landing one attack of his own on one of Youpi's eyes. If Knuckle and Shoot were able to do that, then who's to say that some other characters aren't able to move fast enough for Youpi to not be able to react to them.
// Killua is the faster after Meruem, eand Yupi can see Lightning of Speed Killua’s movement, but not Whirlind’s Killua’s mouvement
It's not even his speed, even his time reaction is not enough against Killua
@@devil2457 Killua's movements in Godspeed: Whirlwind were never shown to be faster than Killua's movements in Godspeed: Speed Of Lightning, but even if we assume that they are faster: it is still unknown whether Youpi is able to keep up with Killua's Speed Of Lightning mode, because we have never been shown Killua using that against Youpi. Even assuming that Youpi is able to react Killua's movement in Godspeed: Speed of Lightning, as i've said in my previous comment, Youpi's speed was never shown to be much faster than the speed of a lot of the members of the invasion team - Knuckle was able to dodge and run away from Youpi a lot of times. Shoot was also able to dodge Youpi's attacks a lot, and was even able to land one attack on Youpi. All of this to say, that Youpi not being able to react to Killua's movements in his Godspeed: Whirlwind mode, doesn't mean that nobody else is able to do it.
killua was holding aluka and grandma's nen is literally vehicles, they better be fast cuz hey have no other use
// Killua literally *outspeeded* Pouf who was definitely faster than Youpi. Also Killua hilf Alluka and was running away from the grandma on a fcking Road, the only thing which was measured was the sole speed. The speed which the grandma achieved was the full power of such an old and experienced Nen user plus she was on a full road, but Killua just causally competed in this category with such a strong cavarcter who had focussed on this. Also the speed in absattle couldn‘t be achieved by the Grandma and Killua’s reaction is definetely faster than anyone else‘s.
Tbh I do like how Pakunoda gets an arm broken and teeth knocked out and she just is like
"Wait that happened? Lol"
Phinks roll his hand a 1000 times and boom!
Meruem Rip
He can't get gas a limit to his aura
People say Meruem would Win cause its Fact.
Durabilty alone makes this a rather one-sided fight
because they just cant do enough, but on the other side,
Meruem can.
Just like with Netero: One Touch on the Arm and they lost
the Arm - and if Meruem touches your head, that's it for you.
Their numbers would be dwindling at a fast rate.
Meruem just obviously Wins.
lol. Do you think Meruem will even wait that long. Meruem is impatience he will kil Phinks before he can roll his arm once.
Even phink roll 1000 time that power gonna be less then 100 guanyin bodhhasivtta first hand lmaooooo
People see phantom troup is powerful bcoz they dont meet their real oppnent lmaoooooooooooo.their main opponent now is only kurapika n hisoka and u guys see them as a godd lmaoooo
I'm about to watch a 25 minute video on a question I already know the answer to
Lol..RealTalk....yeah pretty much..if anything pitou can blitz them all at once...(the only two she probably might not blitz is Feiten and Chrollo)..
@@pdors94 yeah even Pouf, who is the weakest strength wise blitzes basically all of them
@@SteroidChicken he guys let's all keep saying blitz because our vocabulary is limited and we think it sounds uber kewl
@@BH-ix7nq bruh. Shutup before I blitz you
@@BH-ix7nq 🕋
Feitan's rising sun is as hot as the sun.
Escanor: "who decided that?"
LMAOOOOO!🤣 super underrated
Cringe
@@Legendpyrocharmander stfu
Studio DEEN decided that
@@ogkopykush1857 escanor fanboy?
I love that theres no spoiler warning before going into manga stuff, thanks for that! :D
The main thing i love about Hunter x Hunter is it's unique powerscaling as it follows the logic of real fighting sports where styles make fights. Let's take for example a group of 26 fighters arranged in alphabetical order according to strength wherein Fighter A will be stronger than Fighter B and B stronger than C and so on. Fighter A might have the strongest aura and best fighting ability but Fighter M might have an ability suited to fight him and will own him in a 1v1 fight. Thats another thing i love about HxH, true counters exist. Heck even the location plays a big role in the fights (see Chrollo vs Hisoka). I forget what chapter it was or if it was even HxH but one character even said that condition on the day of a fight matters too. As in fighter A who might be at 85 percent condition on Monday can be smacked to the ground by Fighter D if he was at 97% that day
Given the right conditions, Chrollo with possibly a unique ability that counters or negates the difference in aura between him and Meruem might have a chance to beat him.
Chrollo can never do that
Do u think the pT can even chill confronfing him.
we've seen all of his abilities so far and there's nothing there to do anything to meruem even to a royal guard lol feats >>> hype, not to mention he's fragile and psychally far far far weaker compared to the king, the king could just blitzed him in an instant if he wanted lol
Bisky is the one who said that about "not everyone is at his best everyday". He said that to Killua when she was scolding him for how he sees powerlevels and fighting.
Yeah but that ability couldn't call into question the outcome of the fight maybe put favourable conditions that he would still need other members to take advantage of like Knuckles' A.P.R or changing the material of his skin. Basically Meruem can't really die from the physical output of any nen ability alone
Just let Phinks wine his arm up 50000 times and let him throw a punch
While hidden in Meleoron's god's accomplice haha
@@peeferin9476 god tier strat right there
Plus add Shalnark's supersaiyan remote thing
Yeah that functions like a spirit bomb.
@@peeferin9476 That's not a fight, that's an assassination. Besides, Meleoron isn't a member of the Phantom Troupe.
adult gon solos the phantom troupe
Ging* - yes he does
Never thought i would see u here bro =/
I dont think he's experienced enough mentally to get thru Crollo. That dude is crazy brilliant.
Nahhh you buggin
@@RDGikTv he’s as strong as meruem
I just found your channel and dude having put some random stuff that I will never ask but now I need answers for them thank you so much
I think people low key underestimates Phantom Troupe. They are one of the coolest anime villain group
@@thatgal not underrated but overrated tbh
@@Vincenzo_cassanno I never said they are underrated, I know they are quite popular but not as overrated as Akatsuki, anyway they’re both cool villain groups
@@thatgal true. Been watching anime for 15 years and watches so many animes, akatsuki are extremely overrated while spider phantom are really underrated compared to other shits and overhyped anime’s villains group
they're strong and all, but i still think that the phantom troupe cant beat meruem
@@sham8127Yea against Meruem they might have less possibility, but well you never know
dont let this distract you from the fact that kurenai tried to use genjutsu on itachi
This is a gem
It was logical to fight with him Genjutsu...
we should start talking about how Sasuke used Chidori against Bee
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Killiuas opinion is invalid, he thought he could kill netero
Yeah. Arguments like "X character said this about Y character, therefore Z character doesn't have a chance of defeating Y character" don't work, since just because somebody said something doesn't mean it is actually the case. The poster of this video chose to disregard Morel's statement about how you never know what happens in a fight, yet chose to use what Killua says as an evidence, even though Morel is much more experienced than Killua. Even if we disregard their experience, judging the characters' capabilities based on another character's statements doesn't work, regardless.
That was a killua who did not know about nen
@@miriotogata5474 Even without the knowledge of nen, Killua still knew Netero was holding back, because he himself told Gon that Netero wasn't using his left leg and his right arm, and they still weren't able to take the ball from him. Yet he was still sure he would've killed Netero. So whether Killua knows nen or doesn't know nen, his words aren't always reliable.
@One Killua underestimated Bisky during the greed island arc, and he already knew about nen at that time. And in the heaven's arena Killua was confident that Wing wasn't able to kill him, yet got instantly scared when Wing directed his aura at him.
// cause she’s a woman
Meruem vs. Phantom Troupe would basically go about exactly as Perfect Cell from DBZ vs The Akatsuki. There you go.
😂
Ave been looking for this one
Chrollo: The conditions for him to steal an ability are :
He needs to see how the Nen ability works
He have to ask about the ability and be answered by the target
Target has to touch the handprint on the book
All of the above must be done within an hour
The condition for him to use the stolen ability :
He have to open the page where the ability is written and the page has to remain open in his right hand.
The ability will be limited to its original user’s personality or beliefs
Once the original user died, the ability will also gone (exception if the Nen is stronger after death, it will remain)
Hisoka: *G U M*
You had one job and it was to remember that Hisoka uses rubber too Smh
Didn't Hisoka have a condition where it grew stronger the more he told his opponents about it?
He can now use 2 at a time and not have to hold the book cause of his bookmark ability.
Does meruem even have a nen ability?
@@kawosdhdos Win the fight
Conditions required : be Meruem
bungee gum solos both the HxH universe and every other universe.
It has the properties of both rubber and gum
crazy how it also has the properties of gum
Yet did not prevent chrollo from killing him
Cody Mckeown but it did though
@@abz4852 i absolutely didn't saw that coming!
@@abz4852 And rubber
I've been so curious about the Phantom Troupe against Meruem.
Thank you so much for making this video! 😁
Seth the progroomer 🙏💀
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Netero: pituo is stronger than me.
Gon:aight imma hit puberty real quick
She was stronger than him while he was still rusty. He hit his form again after training against all those ants he slaughtered in the glasses dude's space time room.
They lowkey hoed netero when they brought the king back though ngl
Killua: hey Nanika, kill the ant King.
Nanika: Kay.
I was thinking the same thing lol..
@@megamegasamx1014 it would've been a really boring anime if it turned out that way
@@megamegasamx1014 Every wish has a cost, I wish as big as killing someone like Mereum would have a pretty big cost
@Pedro De Lima Kawase I think it has to do with their relationship. I don't think Killua wants to ask too much of Alluka, the only reason he went for Gon is because nothing else in the world could've saved his best friend.
You literally reposted an 3 months old that pops up not even 5 seconds while scrolling down.
I don't know who will win this one and great video man :]
Your out tro was godly
I will save you 30 minutes of your life : "Even Netero could barely scratch Meruem, what could Phantom Troupe ever do to him then"
True but chrollo could be stronger then netero, netero states he’s far weaker then he was in his prime
I think only Ging could solo him easily !!
Brendan Griffith chrollo was getting folded by Zeno Zoldyck
@@Dontpostdumbcomments Even if chrollo was stronger. The rest of the troupe is such a lower level than chrollo that they are almost negligible in the fight against mereum
@@Dontpostdumbcomments Excuse me what? Chrollo got destroyed by Zoldycks... Which arent nearly as strong as Netero, just Maha Zoldyck was on par with Netero, but we didnt see him fight.
Bruh, Meruem's level compared to the Phantom Troupe in terms of raw power and speed, is like Cell to a bunch of Yamchas.. Unless you consider prep time for the troupe, of course they might have a chance...
How they would have a chance if they don´t know nothing about meruem, no one knows actually how you prepare against an enemy that you know shit about it.
Well there was this theory that phinks could one shot meruem if he wound his arm around enough times
@@aloysiuslim914 *if phinks kan lay his hands on meruem of course. Before that, meruem already chop his head off
@@aloysiuslim914 personally find that theory may not make sense since there is aura limits in this verse, of he can wind his arm up infinitely then that is just unfair lol as the conditions of his abilities is simply that it needs time to charge
@@aloysiuslim914 how much times would he have to wound up his arms😭 till his arm breaks? Even then it still wouldn’t be enough for base meurem dont even get me started on rose
meruem easily is the strongest character in hxh so far. he managed to clap netero, who 1) is the strongest nen user alive 2) has the most battle experience out of all humans and 3) is 110 years old. whereas meruem 11) hadn't even unlocked nen yet 2) was only 2 months old or something and 3) has 0 battle experience. even after netero used his strongest attack, meruem had minor injuries and was still standing. whereas netero had lost 2 limbs and was all skin and bones, on the verge of death. if meruem had more experience and trained more and had a weapon, he would ez clap w/o dying. also, netero had to rely on a bomb, something that aint even his power. this is a clear explanation as to who won.
Netero is most certainly not the strongest nen user
@@brandonderue4168 who is then bud?
@@legacytgk9361 Beyond Netero, Nanika, anything from the dark dimension
Singular character yes? Strongest threat no. All the ants and Mereum combined don't even make the top 5 regarding the most dangerous things from the dark continent. Styles make fights. Meruem is essentially a dbz character in hunterXhunter. With that said, there's a number of different nen users who appeared so far that have the ability to defeat the king ant. Beating him with brute force like Netero won't work. He can be outsmarted as Komugi demonstrated over and over. He's also not immune from "disease/virus/radiation" type abilities. Pretty much anything on the biological level cannot be countered.
@@Periodik Meruem had the potential to become an even greater "threat" than what we've seen from the Dark Continent. He was a special being. Of course with the way the story went, we'll never see where that potential could have gone.
There's a reason Togashi didn't include Hisoka in the Chimera arc, the poor dude would've been nuked trying to fight a strong opponent
Yup. Hisoka wouldve badly want to fight a Royal Guard or the King, only to die.
But NGL and the palace wouldve been a field day for him. Many strong opponents and the ants are stronger than average Nen users
i think he would die very happily tho
Haitian Xu, not true. Otherwise, he wouldnt have been so interested in Gon. Gon is a pure enhancer that uses overhwmpling power.
By your logic, Hisoka would not care about Adult Gon, when Hiska was practically jizzing himself over Gon’s immense potential.
While Hisoka loves countering unique abilities he loves fighting anyone strong, not soley for their abilities.
He was also salivating over his raw potential and aura.
All his fights?
He fought Hisoka twice, once without Nen and the other, Hisoka going easy on him by not even using Ren to power up.
Gon will never be as intricate as Chrollo. The only things Gon showed ability wise is raw power just like Uvo. Him not wanting to fight Uvo, you could say the same thing about the other Troupe Members about not wanting to fight them, despite having them in his “toy chest”
Chrollo is just the biggest challenge since he has so many abilities and many not known.
Hisoka is a sore loser to a fault as we seen.
He lost to Chrollo despite letting Chrollo prepare all he wanted and now, wants to kill the Spiders and Chrollo without any warning or prep time now.
@@aceclover758 Gon has never been about raw/overwhelming power. He has very high athleticism and generally fights using a mix of that, his nen, and his creativity/battle tactics, doing things his opponents typically wouldn't expect.
Someone really thought Hisoka could handle Meruem alone?
Crazy. I couldn't possibly imagine it.
It was possible for those you didn't read the manga. But now it makes very clear.
He can, in case you forgot Hisoka's attack has both the properties of rubber and gum and Meruem can do nothing against that.
Rex4Smash hisoka would love to fight meruem. He likes strong people, and most of all, meruem is very YOUNG. 😉
@@hdhcxgtsdfndogd900 hahaha omg i d love to see Hisokas face expression when he saw Meruem that would ve been hilarious!
@@GG-pm8lc sarcasm right????
Dude, your explanation on the characters themselves and the power scaling is so relevant to all the anime (manga, and stuff like that included) it just blows my mind and no cap made me sub to you. just keep up with this and I’ll be back to watch anything anime. One Piece is a good anime to talk about :)
I really wish Uvo didn’t die so early. He had the coolest personality and was a straight up tank too , my favorite kind of character
He was for sure a beast.
He so dumb, that's why make he die first ok
@@linggaviekas5637 I was actually just thinking about that , if Uvo didn’t scream out of rage when the
Troupe saved him Kurapika’s squad would have got clapped for sure
Dude, the guy was a sociopath. I guess that makes for a personality trait here.
SAME BRO
Still kinda mad how they did my man Kite dirty at his death
With barely any screen time..
@@Thudas22 agreed. They never explained how SPOILER he revived himself or relayed his “soul” into another person. But I’m also just an anime watcher, no manga.
@@_SeeYouSpaceCowboy i know right it kinda confused me
Honestly it would be better if Kite just died completely instead of transferring his soul into a girl.
@@lonewolf4689 well we have no idea what will happen with Kite and the other characters in the future they might get tied back into the story for some reason.
or the story just keeps being in limbo... ;-;
The more interesting question would be: "If Kurapika dedicated his nen abilities towards Chimera ants only, can he defeat Meruem? Will his chains still be unbreakable?"
He would have to have the same hatred for them like he did with the Troupe
It is not a matter of “let me make a chain that only works on ants”
Also, even if Chain Jail worked on Meruem for any reason, Meruem is way too fast to get caught. And without Nen, he is still very strong in terms of raw power
Even if he is caught by chain jail, he would probably break it due to his sheer physical strength.
If he wasn't certain his chains could hold Uvogin, then forget about him ever coming close to holding Meruem. That's like someone unsure whether they can definitely arm wrestle an average man, and then interpreting that doubt to also speculate whether this person might be able to arm wrestle a gorilla. If that's the information I have available about the person, then my money is on the gorilla.
No meruem would also dogethe chains
@ApexPie you are remember when killua said gon with anger might be a threat to even pitou
Pitou would definitely body the troupe by herself
Biggest cap
@@terrorhunter5 not even
@@terrorhunter5 netero would body the trope
@@terrorhunter5 your delusional
@@Eli-ip3jx obviously
Thanks for the Spoiler with Illumi joing the Phantom Troup. Really appreciate you
Just for your info: Killua never said Pitous aura was stronger than Hisokas or Illumis, he just said it was scarier..
in hxh world the scarier the aura the stronger it is
i think the phantom troupe will get killed one by one like nitro limbs
@@chad63 Malicious aura represents the character/their feeling towards whoever is sensing their aura. Both Hisoka and Illumi have scared Killua with their auras, which is why he mentioned them. Meanwhile, Komugi and the other people who Meruem played board games with were inside of Pitou's EN for days and days, yet were never even bothered by her aura.
Also, Hisoka and Illumi may have been holding back on their aura not to kill Killua, while Pitou didn't hold back because she didn't care about what happened to Killua.
@Sou heib they have a scary aura lol everyone does. they just dont show it. example is netero. even killua ran from it. that's his scary aura
Hisoka killing the Phantom Troupe
Kurapika: *wait, that's illegal!*
If you see it that way, Hisoka is helping Kurapika in a way by killing The Spider's Members
Hector Beltran you missed the joke
Hector Beltran take a joke
Not only is this meme dead, it's also a spoiler for anime only fans.
@@lizzywizzypop5961 What is this "joke" thing you talk about?
I honestly think it depends on how mereums feeling and how prepared the phantom Troup is , I can see mereum taking out half of the phantom Troup in blink of an eye if he's pissed off ...
Thank you for this video.
It made some things more clearer to me. I like Meruem as a character and his development. What I, shown through your video, do not like, is the concept of his god being. What does all the complexity of Nen-abilities and all the build up before mean, when another being just wipes everything?
You're all missing the real question;
1:38 where did Hisoka get all that cake?
That's where he keeps all his napkins for texture suprise.
@@asphaltshingles8594 loool im dying
@@asphaltshingles8594 he would.
lmao XD
@@asphaltshingles8594oh this one got me😂😂😂😂
“For the first time in the series, you can actually hear his footsteps” I knew they never added footstep sounds for killua, but even after watching that scene tons of times, it never even crossed my mind.
Yeah that’s awesome
Video is kinda long I missed this quote. What time was it
Mirio Togata 18:10
Wow went back to rewatch most killua scenes and this one in particular MIND BLOWN
I want to rewatch that episode, but I can't remember which episode it is. Please tell me
honestly, most of your video are pretty good and on point imo. With that being said even though your right that meruem would be able to no diff them, you are not scalling the troupe correctly.. probably just because you dont do much hxh but still a decent video
Alot of people are over estimating kite.
Kite is the perfect hunter, his abilities are better than knuckle but nen and physically they’re the same
But kite is 100 times a hunter knuckle is.
Remember in the exam arc gon was 2 times better as a hunter than killua while killua was far stronger than gon
Your whole comment makes no sense.
@@boxiannn to make it simple for someone with a brain a small as yours
Strength =/ hunter ability
Someone being a good hunter doesnt always mean he is a strong
Kite was a perfect hunter, but even gon and killua said that knuckle is as strong as kite.
But some fanboys think that kite is a super powerful being that every being in hunterxhunter world knows lol
@@haziq12ish Your original comment was people are overestimating kite but he's the perfect hunter. Makes absolutely zero sense.
@@boxiannn overestimating in terms of strength
@@boxiannn is like how netero said gon was a better hunter candidate then killua in the hunter exam but killua was obviously far stronger than gon
Thats why killua was pissed during the last exam remember?
To be real tho, Hunter x Hunter has often shown that teamwork is much more important than solo strength
this, exactly. i thought the video would approach the fight as in the troupe going in together vs the king: them combining their abilities (for example Hisoka using his bungee gum to throw illumi's needles at a greater speed), covering for each others weakness etc. That would have been a way more interesting video than stating what everyone already knows: meruem is unbeatable in a 1v1 deathmatch.
Yea, in scenarios where teamwork is actually capable of exploiting some weakness and often because someone with convenient powers exists in that particular arc. Without Knuckle or Meleoren, Youpi would have killed everyone once they stormed the palace. The sheer magnitude of difference between Squadron leaders ( one of Whom was Bullying Feitan and would have killed him if she didn’t stop to look at pain packer) and Royal Guards is massive. The gap between the guards and Meruem is also massive. The Phantom Troupe as Togashi chose to portray them is simply not a threat to the Royal Guards, much less Meruem, regardless of teamwork. Illumi himself referenced Pitou as being a nigh unstoppable monster who made him look like trash in retrospect.
@@Shoddragon So many inaccurate statements in your comment.
1. If Knuckle and Meleoron didn't exist, then before attacking the palace, the invasion team would have just come up with a different plan to deal with Youpi.
2. Not only was Feitan rusty when fighting Zazan, but Zazan made a restriction by tearing off her tail(which was her way of creating soldiers) and by changing her appearance(which she cared about) in order to gain a lot of raw strength. We've seen what restrictions can do in this show. In the end, Feitan still killed Zazan with a sun that cost him only a broken arm and some injured organs. So no, Zazan wasn't bullying Feitan.
3. Saying that Zazan would have killed Feitan if she didn't stop to look at the pain packer is a baseless assumption.
4. Togashi has never portrayed the Phantom Troupe as "not a threat" to the Royal Guards.
5. Illumi has never said that "Pitou was an unstoppable monster who made him look like trash in retrospect." So again, baseless claims.
In this case though, unless each of them is above Royal Guard level, then possibly. But it was made clear with the Netero fight that only a point blank rose bomb is capable of damaging him. Within the series, the bomb is the ultimate destructive weapon. You may survive the blast (as did Mereum) but you'll still die from the chemical effects. And if Feitan is dead, I highly doubt that his skill include post-mortem activation.
that only works if the power difference isn't too wide. meruem is literally off the charts in every category. Teamwork of the phantom troupes level means nothing
The strongest ability in HxH: technology
makes sense, the creator of rose bomb prob unintentionally put nen in it or something
Thats some real life shit
@@randynguyen7767 Nah, that would imply that a single person hand made every Poor Man's Rose - which I'm pretty sure isn't the case since they're mass produced.
technology improves through time/generations after all
One word. Nanika
Kites on the verge of death is less of an amp and more of a fail safe. It's implied to be the reason he reincarnated. I could be wrong but I don't think it made him stronger I think it just gave him a way to survive
The video spent so long talking about the phanom troupe that i completely forgot about Meruem
I really miss Kite. He was so damn cool in the Arc. Really wished he escaped from Pitou.
Did u read past the quimera ant arc???
If not then okay, but if u read (watch the anime) then I question ur memory
But still, I don't like the red haired girl kite
@@filipe_paixao bruh I want the original kite design rather than the red-haired one.
I like the red hair girl. I bet kite will look bad ass in fight mode
Since she seems to be maturing fast I hope we get her aged up to kite's original age and wearing his dope ass outfit again then I'll be satisfied lmao
I swear the rubber and gum jokes get me every time lmao. Y’all need to chill 💀😂
What if i said hisoka uses his bungee gum to revive himself after he died
Thats exactly what i said 😂😂😂
But do you know...
Did you know, Hisoka has both properties of Pedophilia and Jail time?
@@LofiCameron cap
I want to see a video of could Seth beat Hisoka
I love how Seth tells it how it is. Soo good dude. Legit makes me actually laugh. Good shit
Not even gonna lie, I know none of these characters but imma still watch lol.
It's a series/manga worth checking out
Bro you gotta watch it is a great show and manga
It's one of the best shonen series ever. Do yourself a favor and go watch Hunter x Hunter 2011.
Hxh isn't that good imo but worth a watch
@@returnofhorusthegalacticor9704 what, bro, your opinion but that's crazy
Can we admit Phantom Troupe was cooler than the Chimera Ants? This is why Yorknew will always be my favorite saga.
Meruem and the RGs are far more interesting characters IMO
I like the ant arc better.
I think The Phantom troupe as a group is better than the Royal Guards, but for me.. Meruem > Chrollo *though Chrollo's one of my fav character in HxH, Meruem is so complex, he's an overpowered extraterrestrial being but somehow many people can relate to him
@@muhamadrayada6580 Well technically, he isn't extra terrestrial, he's just a chimera ant, a beast from the dark continent. Honestly, the dark continent is like an entirely new world, but yeah, Meruem is absolutely a great character.
Cooler ? Yes. Better written. No.
I genuinely don’t understand people who say the Chimera Ant arc is the worst one, or that it is boring. I enjoyed every single episode of it and I think the arc was THE best one of HxH. It is so entertaining and the characters are amazing and well-written!
it was mediocre for the most part. The writing was sloppy, the characters ok, the pacing horrible and not even close to be the best arc.
I've just recently finished the Chimera Ant arc. It is an emotional rollercoaster, but near the climax it is a huge drag. In my opinion, the arc should have been shorter; basically, quicker, to the point.
It's the worst especially it's conclusion
@@thulanisthire4070Why?
It was too long
That "spoiler for anime watchers" was not long enough at all
The point of the Ants in the story is twofold:
1. Show how powerless the most powerful humans are.
2. Show how dangerous humanity as a whole is.
The point was never a power level contest. That runs completely opposite of the narrative theme.
Ummmmm I thought it was to show how strong creatures from the dark continent are with ever single one of them being an extinction level threat
@@mohamedelhediissa289 There's too much attention paid to humanity for that to be the main reason. The Dark Continent isn't even mentioned until near the end of the next arc. Also even when we see examples of creatures from the Dark Continent, humanity is still rated as being more dangerous than the Ants. It's become a running theme.
@@mohamedelhediissa289 Ants arent even strong in the beginning.They only became strong because they cross breed with humans.
Giorgos And
Its not always about power in HxH true
But the thing is it very well will come down to power in HxH especially when their difference in intellect and power is just so great.
We have seen Meruem’s durability, he was able to tank thousands of hits from the strongest hunter, the pinnacle of all hunters (according to Knov, if Netero cAnt fight someone, no hunter can)
And there is no ability that can harm Meruem.
Literally not a single ability that can hArm meruem that any of the troupe members have
Feitan, the 4th strongest member struggled against a squadron leader, some even struggled against officers and peons.
Meruem would only have to kill someone and get their ability by eating them
Someone like Uvogin who he can one shot.
Then he uses big bang against them and its game over
Royal Guards vs Troupe is more fair
Giorgos And
The Royal Guards always protect the king even when they know an intruder would have gotten one shotted and destroyed by him, for example when Zeno Rained down the dragons Pitou and Pouf were very scared for the King even tho the dragons would do absolutely nothing to him.
She said his fangs could reach the king meaning he could hurt him, she never said that he can kill him.
We don’t really know how strong the zodiacs are some are double star or first star hunters, Hisoka ranked all of the nen users there and ranked some of the zodiacs to be 8 through 9 in his weird scaling, and he ranked Illumi a 9.5, some of the Zodiacks arent probably even fighters but if Illumi can scale above or even the mid tier Zodiacks i think Netero is very well above them.
Knov literally said that if Netero can’t beat Pitou or even the King than nobody can which means Netero is literally the pinnacle of all hunters.
Netero is an old man i guess but i don’t see any hunter going through his Buddha statue.
2:30 "Hisoka easily manhandling Machi with his bungee gum" I see what you did there
MMmmMmMmM.....( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Alien X Bungee gum has both the properties of rubber and gum...
Alien X I don't get it
also known as "elastic love" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
jBaO493 thanks this comment made my day 🤣
11:55 but Chrollo fought Zeno and Silva at the same time because of the prophecy. He knew he wouldn'd be killed, so he tried to steal their abilities
I find it funny that with all of his abilities, stolen powers, experience and versatility.
That Hisoka can match and even challenge Chrollo with just a single simple basic ability. Some stretchy gum.
Sort of a much better version of protagonists vs villains like Bleach. Where Ichigo's main attack is basically just an energy projectile and the enemy's creative utility ability just loses against Ichigo's simple power up.
The chairman had to give up his life in order to temporarily take him down after giving him everything he's got. The phantom troupe will be dead before the fight even starts.
Im pretty sure even the chairman could take down the phantom troupe by himself. His nen ability is so fast pitou, easily physically stronger the netero and had a much high nen aura output, couldn't even see it, and Morel, a dude that is definitely phantom troupe level, was left speechless by his aura.The chairman could take down the phantom troupe, let alone meruem.
You forgot that The ant King had to not kill him because he wanted his name. Also he didn't even want to kill him m the ant King was pleading with Netero but Netero didn't want to hear that
@@R.O.T.C._SEEM let's not forget that only meureum was able to finally touch netero after withstanding thousands of blows, netero Buddha statue is the best defensive and offense ability you can have in this show, I can't see anyone else except for meureum to touch netero before dying
R.O.T.C SEEM doesn't matter he still couldn't reach him until thousands of hits he said himself the movement be used to summon the Buddha is the only movement too fast for him meaning he couldn't hit him into figuring out his pattern
Wario If he could take them down so easily why didn’t he do it before?
the chimera ant arc was more like a game of chess with each piece having unique abilities and strategies must say HXH is a masterpiece
Best arc in entire anime history.
@@deathbat7311 fiction
@@deathbat7311 yeah, no
It was it´s highs and really has some strong downs, but HxH is great
@@antonioc.5778 no it doesn’t
I haven’t read the manga and didn’t plan to and I must have missed the spoiler warning...I am so sad rn. Hisoka...😭
Thank you
Some dude really saw Meruem and thought: *yeah, Hisoka could take him*
Lol
Bruh I've seen so many people over the years say that Hisoka/Illumi could beat *anyone* pretty much, it's ridiculous.
Like just because we never see him go up against Meruem doesn't mean you can randomly assume he'd be capable when he's done nothing to show he's that strong.
Character hype doesn't equate to strength...
only way hisoka could win is if meru was a little boy👀
@@vex7804 lmao, take in meruem was a new born before he died...Take that in.
Nocturnal Monk III i know,
hisoka gets hard for boys not newborns
Fun Fact: Meruem was so strong that Togashi couldn’t even figure out a way to kill him, so he just finished his death off with him dying with a disease he got from nuclear blast Netero caused.
Has gon recovered his nen
This is why I respect his Togashi's work sk much. He makes rules for his universe and sticks with it, he doesn't just use some BS to finish things up and messing up what have already been established
[Spoilers] --> I also love how he's not afraid to kill off certain characters. In respect to Mereum's power, he kills off the most powerful nen user in the world to kill off the most powerful creature in the world. It wasn't just some idiotic "resolve and friendship" moment. Gon had to pretty much sentence himself to a lifelong coma just to beat Neferpitou. Even though Gon did eventually get revived, it wasn't because someone cried over his grave. Killua had to go through a mission and the risk was definitely there for him to achieve his goal and there were consequences. Togashi's stuff is great and I really hope he does get better soon and writes some issues.
~~And also stops playing dragonquest~~
What abt in his youth?
@@trippyerror4602 no
This show NEEDs to continue
I think there is enough room for speculation regarding how much of the phantom troupe's power is undisclosed so I think it's safe to say that although meruem base would single-handedly obliterate the phantom troupe, the royal guards may get defeated if all members of the spider fight at full strength
yes agreed the spiders at full strength defeated the royal guards... while they're sleeping. yeah they're winning. yeay the phantom troupe winning woo-hoo!
No, they can't in fact take on the royal guard lol. They don't have any feats to back this claim. Half the troop is dog water lol. Let's not forget kurapika clapped uvogon alone and kidnapped chrollo and he couldn't react. Royal guard speed blitz every time.
They barely stand a chance against one royal guard.
@@55thstreet66 on hindsight I think i was smoking reefers when i said that. But I'd also like to say that comparing kurapika and phantom troupe is just straight up unfair. He took down their physically strongest member like it was a video game tutorial. But he only did that because he was a spider. If he wasnt one, there would be another pair of red eyes for some rich guy to collect.
Even one guard on a bad day would annihilate the entire phantom troupe, it literally isn't even a debate, they are unbeatable even by the most experience humans, Netero probably can't take down Pitou, let alone Pouf and Youpi who have even stronger and diverse abilities
I like 'what if' fights against people in the same show. Especially in a show like HxH, very consistent and doesn't have power scaling issues.
Joe Smith it does have scaling issues though the nuke just nullifies them I guess
@Gee Tar its more balanced than what? it has scaling issues its just they fit into the show well anyway so its all g and nuke ends all scaling issues or dark continent (which is an issue in itself when explored which cant be done)
@@dadeee7776 what? I'm talking about power scaling issues that shows like Fairy Tail has. You may have an idea about the power of a character, then all of a sudden they are way better for no reason.
What if fights between characters from other anime doesn't work for me. Different IPs mean different rules and to many unknown quantities.
@@dadeee7776 I have no idea what you're trying to say
Zoldyck family vs royal guards would be a fun one c:
Zeno and Silva destroy them alone imo, let alone Killua.
Zzigg zoldyck could probably solo all 3 guards as he went to the dark continent
@@anhdinh2818 Zeno and Silva couldn't even beat Chrollo when he wasn't even going all out but was trying to instead steal their abilities whereas they were trying to kill him.
Chrollo literally toyed with them.
Somehow they solo the Royal Guard?
This is a joke right?
Abongile Peterson they both weren’t ?? Tf
@@abongilezolanipeterson2737 lmao bro sylva wasn't even fighting him zeno was CONFIDENT he could beat chrollo in a 1v1 and HE IS FARRR from his prime and he's not stronger than sylva, is in his prime although while that dude made a big claim it isn't an impossible claim
I have a request !
Do you think can Phantom Troupe take down adult Gon?
This is very interesting question I think.
Thanks for your video. I really like it although I am a not English speaker.
@5:40 And yet if Shalnark gets control of one Chimera Ant he practically makes the fight go from a complete loss to a potential win. This is why Power Scaling doesn't work in HxH, he's physically weak, could maybe at best be able to dodge one attack, but his powers aren't suited for one on one combat, in fact it isn't even combat it's infiltration and chaos. This is the type of thing Morel was referring to when it came to Nen battles, this is why some fights simply can't be classified, you could be weaker than your opponent in every conceivable way, to the point that they in a one on one should always win, yet you have an ability that may control someone, that may be equal to bridge the gap in intelligence and ability. A much better combatant would be Finks who isn't limited by aura usage and can simply just prepare an attack from ten days ago if he wanted to, and in that case him hitting is far more important.
Oh and yeah, Shalnark might not be able to 100% confirm a hit on his own, but considering someone like Chrollo using a nen-ability that might allow a clearer shot changes the entire game. Don't forget that Chrollo can straight up equal both the head of the Zoldyck house as well as its previous head at the same time, discerning their abilities and mental state, while also determining what is best in that scenario. Combine that level of thinking and analysis add on the very unique abilities of all Troupe Members and then consider that they are most likely hidden from the Chimera Ants, in fact the main issue is reaching them or picking them off, which even the original extermination force with Killua, Morel, Knov, Netero, Zeno, Gon, Meleoron, Knuckle, and Shoot had difficulty doing.
So all those support and infiltration abilities might seem unimportant working in unison is what makes the Troupe balanced and effective, it is the ability to outsmart and outplay your opponent that matters most, even when you look at the Gon example you see that the reason for his expertise is his ability to outplay his opponents. Two captain rank chimera ants attacking him with great levels of cooperation still couldn't beat him, not just because his Ten and Ken was so highly advanced and that his Aura was enough to mitigate the damage caused, but also because he was clever enough to anticipate their attacks and use a more varied move-set in order to corner them. Nen fights are almost always determined by whether the user knows what they're doing and if their overall ability counters their opponent. The reason why Netero ranks Ging so highly is because he's such a versatile and genius fighter, in which he can copy another's ability, decipher it, and apply it, there are so many things you can take away from the system as a whole that makes power-scaling utterly useless.
Killua would probably actually be able to defeat Meruem.
This is how:
Killua: Yo Something go wipe out Meruem real quick.
Something: Kay.
To those who don't get the joke: Killua's sister is named "Nanika" and "Nanika" translates to "Something" in English from Japanese. So Mr Smurfey is saying Killua could just make a wish to "Something" aka "Nanika" to kill Meruem.
That was the absolute worst arc in the whole series and I prefer to pretend it didn't happen.
• Riftis • ong, who tf wanted to see people use their brains on a freaking election 🤦🏾♂️
@@d0minate926 Dude, Pariston was one of the best crafted villians ever. It was absolutely better than the Greed Island ark.
Dax Bess you’re trolling right?
I feel Hisoka is a more dangerous opponent to Chrollo than most people are, specifically people who are said to be stronger than Hisoka. The beauty of the power system in Hunter x Hunter.
S C A R S chrollo is like 30 times stronger in the manga he killed hisoka and was barely scratched
@@nahitzsteph5896 Chrollo had literally every single advantage in that fight along with hell from other troupe members.
@@Priceluked The help is still just a theory also if there was help it was only in making nen dolls and that one bungee gum moment.
@@nahitzsteph5896 in a 1v1 with no advantage for either sides meaning both just fight with their raw power with no plan/help hisoka would win every time. There is a reason why chrollo had to prepare for the fight so much. If he really was 30 times more powerful than hisoka he wouldnt actually need to prepare.
Subscribe to Pewdiepie that’s like saying Batman isn’t powerful because he needs to prepare for a lot of his opponents. Intellect and strategy is a form of strength. Chrollo prepped and ROLFstomped Hisoka, he was trying to prove a point. He didn’t just beat him, he utterly obliterated him.
The videos old as heck, but can you do a full video on the Phantom Troupe vs the Royal Guard individually?
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Good luck having all that power when my buddy Light yagami writes names on the note.
😐
david Daniel nice name better count 40 seconds
Exactly these powers are shit in the sight of yagami light
I got you covered fam
what is meruem's full name?
I mean, if you give Phinks 1 year to prepare his swing, then maybe.
Sure, but it would probably kill him as well, as he wont be able to resist the power, a lot like deku from MHA
@Pixel Smile he runs out of aura
all that just to miss his punch on Meruem😂😂😂
Yeah but dont forget, bungee gum has both the properties of rubber AND gum...
@Σpsyth not really, that still won't be more powerful that Zero Hand of Netero. It would probably tickle Meruem tho, enough to make him laugh.
I feel like they made the high level ants way too strong lol, like youpi could probably take out most of the troupe by himself
Remember what Ging said to Gon stop the world tree? The Chimera Ants were a non native species to their world. So the power scaling actually makes sense if you think about it. They were basically fighting Aliens lmaooo
i really wish we could see more Chrollo in HxH