Just startiing out ADV riding. Really appreciate the amount of info given and its not like it was a commercial for any one brand. You went into detail but didn't overwhelm us with non specific information. As well the video itself is profesionaly done with proper editing , lighting and audio with enough variety in screen shots/locations to add interest for our ADHD minds..lol . I would like to hear the general costs for the items mentioned ,especially since a fair number of your viewers would be starting out and really need to know what to budget for more or less. Of course it is difficult to do so since this video may be watched 5 or 10 years later upon its production release, however; you could always sdd quick disclaimers before mentioning that the prices will vary but this is a typical range of price point for this particular year, season and maybe even location...and that you speak in U.S. denaro..(which is a sigifigant difference for some Canadian viewers...lol) perhaps a video on how to get maximum bang for our buck..even entering into the world of used equipment, 'cause heck, thats a very viable market that many of us will venture into to and would really appreciate the world of knowledge of which your program posses. Once again thank you for your efforts. Keep up the great work. We value your info and creativity in your deliverance. As well thank you for taking the time to review our commentary. Peace
Lem's "Harley Maintenance" videos came out right after I bought my sporty. This video comes out as I'm on the fence about getting a GS. I'm not a smart man, but I'd say that's a sign.
I'm psyched you guys are doing more of these vids. They're great, and thank goodness you mentioned tools and know how to use them. I don't know how many times I've been in the field where someone was SOL and didn't have anything but a camera. Only thing I would have also mentioned is that every bike is known for one weird weakness... Figure it out and take action. That GS has a stupid Kickstand switch that's unprotected and will kill the bike just by looking at it wrong. Owners either need to know how to bypass wire it when it fails or aftermarket guard for it. So when's the follow up Ural Baja video coming?!?!??!?!??!?!
Great vid. One small piece of advice that I would like to offer is to use the Heidy on the rear, the TKC on the front. I used this combination to ride to Deadhorse from Ky and back, to include the Top of the World Highway and The Dalton. They made it the entire 10000 mile trip, handled surprisingly well as long as you slow down a bit for turns in the rain. As I was tent camping on a month long trip, the bike (R1200GS) was heavily loaded and they did just fine. One caveat is that the Heidy didnt like the snotty oatmeal of the Dalton in a rainstorm/snowstorm/sleet take your pick lol, it got a bit greasy. But it was a compromise that was well worth it and perfectly doable. I put street tires on it after I returned home, but now I want that combination back because I prefer how it handles even on pavement.................
I should also mention our appreciation towards your intelligently mapped out commentary below the video regarding links and video time frames as to where to find the specific subject matter you spoke about....so well laid out. Very impressed. One of My top 3 channels now for two wheelin' knowledge along with mototech and the awesome Fortnine who tell like it is. Saluté Michael
Soft luggage with racks that also support hard luggage is really the universal way to go on these bikes. Hard for touring, Soft for offroad. Glad you covered this, as I wish I had skipped the OEM yamaha luggage for my Tenere. Soft bags should force you to pack modestly. Don't put shit on the bike you DON'T NEED. Adding more weight to an already heavy bike sucks off road, and new riders apparently enjoy learning that the hardware (I did too!). I also don't care for my hangdown banging on the tank bag either. Another hard (twss) lesson. Had to get rid of the big yamaha tank bag, now I use the Bags connection Micro bag. Gives me plenty of room for my modestly sized man package.
I've noticed that no one mentions that if you go from a street oriented tires to off-road tires that there will likely be a slower speed designation on the off-road tires and that caution should be exercised of the difference in handling. Just saying ....
TKC 70s Front and back on an R1200GSA, Seattle to Deadhorse and back. They did fine, but they were DONE after 7000 miles. Good on the highway and fine in the slop. That ride is mostly highway, but the slop is, well, slop.
I had a decked out V'Strom DL650, and now have a mostly stock 2018 BMW G310GS. Ihave a strong feeling the "Mini ADV Bike" segment is fixing to explode with sales, and I feel these ideas shown here will apply to those bikes as well! I have been checking in on your website almost daily for G310GS new product updates. :-D I have been a 'Zilla customer for nearly 4 years now. :-D
COYOTE ADVENTURES yes..imagine you put these mods,including replacing the rims to spoke ones..OMG;It will turn the GS baby to real Adventure bike..proud of..
The cup holder with Starbucks is priceless. ADV is the new sport-touring. Outlaw biker types and fat old farts have done a very effective job of turning younger-minded folks away from big touring bikes (aka two-wheeled Winnebagos). Given the rapid decline in the quality of roads across the US, you don't necessarily need to go "offroad" to need offroad capabilities. More ADV please.
Nice work on this video. Sound advice in a solid and professional video. Thanks! Murtah is my 08 GSA and he'll be tickled by some of these upgrades like soft luggage. Those factory boxes are good for tarmac riding kit, though.
Would like to see the ADV Touring mods discussion. Think about covering air flow protection (windscreen) without going to the barn door solution. LOL... You've just reinforced the myth that many ADV riders only make it as far as Starbucks.
The Triumph Tiger Explorer got no love when you mentioned the "other" big adventure bikes! I use mine off road all the time and it does very well. I suggest headlight protectors too. Breaking a lens in one of these bikes gets quite expensive. Great video though!
Hey Spurg, around the 12:00 mark when you talk about rotating the bars, it feels worthwhile to also discuss adjusting your controls as well. With the amount that you rotated your bars forward, now the brake and clutch levers will be at awkward angles and hard to reach in any position other than standing.
The earlier HexHead R1200GS had OEM crash bars that actually risk major damage to the cylinder head. A crash will push the bar backwards into the rocker cover. That rips out the retaining screws or cracks the lugs out of the head casting. Scrapped cylinder head and huge oil leak. The so-called head protectors from Touratech et election were even worse. Held in place by 6mm screws. Any significant impact rips the lug out of the cylinder head. Another scrapped head and a huge oil leak leaving you stranded. The off road schools consider the rocker covers are consumables.
Great review and very professional... superior to alot of stuff on the web... keep doing the good work... I will spend my money on Revzilla's products because I know that ya'll care about your customers...
Thanks so much for the kind words, Marc! You should see our parking lot on a warm day. We all ride here. Our philosophy is to talk to our customers like they are our riding buddies. No BS all the way. -TeamZilla Chris
Still I like having Pelican cases, since they are the most durable and not much heavier than soft luggage. Caribou luggage is where I get my stuff from, look into them!
I got my new Ducati Multistrada 1200 enduro last December. You conveniently did not mention Ducati once. No matter. 160 horse power at my command and all the adds you mentioned plus sat nav and hand heaters. Where we are going, we don't need roads.
One of my old guy friends went with hard case panniers because he saw a video of someone dropping off a cliff, and the metal boxes were the only things that saved the person's legs from being crushed by the KLR.
Wow, that's quite a strong argument for metal panniers. I have heard countless stories of them acting as excellent 'crash bars' as well. -TeamZilla Chris
I have givi outback trekkers on my bike, saved my leg from being turned into mince meat with the weight if the bike on top sliding down the road. however, I do like the versatility of soft luggage. all comes down to personal preference 😊
For the most part love your videos. But seriously why mention a follow on video if you have no intentions of actually making the video? All I see in the comments is that you have no timeline and that has been the answer for a year now.
Regarding the tip at 16:20 of in a pinch using a tube on tubeless wheel. How would that be done? On that R1200GS, where would you access the valve stem? Thank you.
I just bought a '13 F800GS to start getting into ADV/ back country riding. At my age (58), I need all the help I can get. My question: from the house to anywhere are the typical miles of pavement, so tire performance for on/off road is a stumper for me. I'm thinking I should ease into the tire issue by going with Heidenau's 50/50 tires, then something more appropriate for off-road as I build my experience. Or, are the off road tires still solid performers on pavement? I just sort of lope along on pavement enjoying the views...but wet pavement and tire selection does have my attention. Advice or suggestions are welcome... Thanks!
I like the Mitas E-07s a bit more than the Heidenaus if you really need long tire life, but for a better bias towards off-road grip without totally reducing tire life (as with the TKC80s), then look at the Mitas E-09s. -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/mitas-e-07-tires *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/mitas-e-09-tires
Spurgeon Dunbar I had been riding a Vstrom 1000 for 13 years. It was about time! I'm looking forward to the next video for touring! You do great reviews! I was tempted by yours on the R1200RS. But I wasn't sure my back was going to adapt to it after so many years in the Vstrom
Haha.... My dad had an '05 V-Strom 1000 for 12 years until he totaled it last year when we were out riding in West Virginia. Out of all of the bikes I've brought home over the years for him to try, the R 1200 RS has been his favorite. But, he had the same complaint as you, the riding position was too aggressive. He's just started shopping for a new bike and a Bavarian Boxer is at the top of his list. I'll have to let him know you went with the GS. Thanks for the kind words and following along with our work here at RevZilla. Lem and I love having the opportunity to present bike reviews as well as all of this other original content. Best of luck with that new Beemer!
what do you guys recommend for knee protection on ADV riding ( more off-road than on road) ? Knee braces, knee guard or something like Klim pant with D3O knee protection.
Any idea when the Adventure Touring video will be released? I saw in other commitments it was on the back burner a year ago, is there a timeline for it to be completed? Keep up the amazing work!
What kind of off-road riding do you plan on doing? If you're not tacking a lot of loose sand and mud you might find a better compromise between dirt and street with a more 50/50 tire, something like the Mitas E-07. Better off-road grip than the Anakees while still getting 6-7,000 miles out of rear tire. I've used them in the past and only moved away from them because I wasn't getting enough grip in the sand out in the Pine Barrens in New Jersey. I think the TKC80's are a great for riders looking to spend the majority of their time off-road. They have become the workhorse tire for dirt-oriented ADV-riders. @mondragon078 is right in the fact that you will sacrifice longevity. On my last set of TKC80s on my Tiger 800 XCx I got roughly 2,400 miles out of the rear. Keep in mind that included a lot of rock and dirt and a few endurance rallies where that rear took a lot of abuse spinning and skidding over rough surfaces. I just switched to Mitas E-09s. I am trying these for the first time after a buddy recommended them over the TKCs. Said he was getting better grip and slightly longer life out of them. We'll see how they work out. The important thing to remember is that there isn't a right or wrong answer here, it's really about finding the right compromise between street and dirt for your style of riding.
I run a TKC80 on the front of my Triumph Scrambler. I run a Mitas E-07 in the rear. TKC80s are a fantastic tire for on and off-road use. They handle great on the pavement and don't just "look the part" when using them off-road. Their limitation is tread life, especially as a rear tire on a heavy bike. That is the reason I chose a Mitas E-07 for the rear - best of both worlds! -TeamZilla Chris
I use the TCX X-Helium Michelin boots. They are beefy, protective dirt boot but with enough comfort built in to use them over multiple days. I've used these in everything from single-day endurance rallies to seven days on- and off-road in Baja. You're not going to get the Gore-Tex waterproof protection like with the Toucan or the Sidi's, but that never bothered me.
The Forma Terra's are more of a lightweight ADV/Touring boot. @Pallusubaru is right in the fact that the are not stiff and they offer all-day comfort but they're not going to give you the protection for "hard off-road". The reason more aggressive boots are stiff and less comfortable is because they're designed to protect your foot and ankle in the event of a crash or smashing up against a rock or tree. Depending on how hard you're going off-road I would err on the side of protection over comfort. Those Alpinestars and Sidi's are a pretty great compromise between comfort and protection. The TCX X-Heliums I use are just as protective but for less money. The main sacrifice, however, is going to be comfort as they're not waterproof and they don't have the hinged ankle system.
when are you guys going to do the touring adventure video you mentioned in this video? As much as I love the idea of going off road on my V strom, I would like to do some adventure touring with my pals too.
It's in the works. Our video team is only about a dozen people and we still crank through product review videos every day, so these more intensive guides get assembled in pieces over several months at this point. -TeamZilla Chris
It all depends on the bike. In some cases, the real trick is making an adventure bike more capable for OFF-ROAD use rather than on. As Aaron L points out, an upgraded saddle, windscreen, and gearing changes can get you a cruising more comfortably down the highway. Hand-guards will also help cut the wind while doing double-duty as brush guards off-road. -TeamZilla Chris
will you guys ever have lem lem do a video on carb maintenance/rejetting/tuning? i feel like that's the #1 thing to do on most dual sports (aka KLR650 and XR650L lol)
It's possible we'll make a video on that. In the meantime, feel free to peruse Lemmy's _How to Clean a Carb_ article. -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/common-tread/spring-carb-cleaning-101
So there is no way to easily lock the majority of dry bags to your bike which is one of the biggest criticisms against using them. Kriega is supposed to have a cable lock to use with their bags but it's still not perfect. If you are parking in a sketchy area you might want to avoid leaving the bags on the bike. When you're riding off-road with luggage chances are you'll be spending your nights in campsites with other like minded folks that hopefully won't pinch your gear. If you are riding in urban areas and you are primarily concerned with safety, locking hard bags might be a better option for you.
That's the only electric pump we carry. For a USB charger, here are some options. -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/battery-tender-usb-charger (requires SAE-style battery lead) *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/oxford-usb-dual-socket *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/bike-master-dual-usb-charger-with-handlebar-mount
We were just starting off with the basics. While I agree with you that you can get better support and all-day comfort from a wider peg, I was able to do seven days straight in Baja on the stock GS pegs without any really discomfort. We wanted to focus on the basics with this video as we didn't want to intimidate new or interested ADV-riders with a laundry list of mods and suggestions. Thanks for the tip, though! It's a good suggestion for people looking to refine their bike even further!
Nice video. Just a note, the GS alloy wheels are not recommended for offroad riding. I went with a Triple Black so I could get the spoked wheels without paying the GS Adventure price tag.
Which mods are you interested in? AltRider had elaborate crash protection for the Africa Twin: www.revzilla.com/altrider If you punch your bike into the bike finder you can find all of the options available for the Africa Twin. If you have any specific items you're looking for I'd be happy to point you in the right direction.
If you bend the rim, or can't set the bead on the trail, you can remove the valve stem and run the valve stem for the tube in its place. If you are running one of these modern BMW mags where the valve stem is in the side of one of the spokes (ie- like the one in this video) this trick doesn't work.
After this video was shot, there wasn't time in the shoot schedule to make the on-road video. It's possible we'll have time to make it in the future, but for now, it's on hold. -DrewZilla
I think that BMW has one of the anti-compression shocks in the front so that if you mash the front brake, the bike doesn't nose dive on you...I think. Someone who actually rides one will probably correct me if I'm wrong!
That is the telelever front suspension - the shock is the only thing doing the damping, the forks are just there to keep the wheel pointed straight and guide it up and down :) Feels weird for the first 10 miles or so but after that it is great. No dive during braking, and really good suspension feel both on road and off (in my humble and biased opinion as an owner).
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Nice video... more of adv please
Adv riding is really a labor of love. It's a lot of work, but they pay off is worth it.
Just startiing out ADV riding. Really appreciate the amount of info given and its not like it was a commercial for any one brand. You went into detail but didn't overwhelm us with non specific information. As well the video itself is profesionaly done with proper editing , lighting and audio with enough variety in screen shots/locations to add interest for our ADHD minds..lol . I would like to hear the general costs for the items mentioned ,especially since a fair number of your viewers would be starting out and really need to know what to budget for more or less. Of course it is difficult to do so since this video may be watched 5 or 10 years later upon its production release, however; you could always sdd quick disclaimers before mentioning that the prices will vary but this is a typical range of price point for this particular year, season and maybe even location...and that you speak in U.S. denaro..(which is a sigifigant difference for some Canadian viewers...lol) perhaps a video on how to get maximum bang for our buck..even entering into the world of used equipment, 'cause heck, thats a very viable market that many of us will venture into to and would really appreciate the world of knowledge of which your program posses. Once again thank you for your efforts. Keep up the great work. We value your info and creativity in your deliverance. As well thank you for taking the time to review our commentary.
Peace
Lem's "Harley Maintenance" videos came out right after I bought my sporty. This video comes out as I'm on the fence about getting a GS. I'm not a smart man, but I'd say that's a sign.
Apologies in advance to your wallet, but I can't say I feel too bad about the fun you'll have. -TeamZilla Chris
RevZilla best comment ever lol
get r800gs instead of the r1200gs
now for motocamping as the next video!
mondragon078 I like where your head is at.
I'd love to see that
I'm psyched you guys are doing more of these vids. They're great, and thank goodness you mentioned tools and know how to use them. I don't know how many times I've been in the field where someone was SOL and didn't have anything but a camera. Only thing I would have also mentioned is that every bike is known for one weird weakness... Figure it out and take action. That GS has a stupid Kickstand switch that's unprotected and will kill the bike just by looking at it wrong. Owners either need to know how to bypass wire it when it fails or aftermarket guard for it.
So when's the follow up Ural Baja video coming?!?!??!?!??!?!
Can't wait for the touring segment. My Tiger is a 1050 so it's what it's designed for.
Fuck everything else - is that a coffee cup holder on your bike?!!
Damn straight. #HardcoreADV
Can't wait for the Adventure Touring Video ! Would be nice to put a link in the description as well . Once it's out :)
Has this video actually been published yet?
Can't find it either
Very well done! You may of convinced me to go with soft luggage on my next adv bike.
Waiting for that Adventure Touring video, just picked up a 2009 Versys 650 and can't wait to see how it goes!
I wish I’ve been waiting for that vid
@@enchantedwarchief247 still waiting for that vid to, sadly it it probably wont get made
I went looking. Still not there.
Two years and still no video.
Any day now
Great vid. One small piece of advice that I would like to offer is to use the Heidy on the rear, the TKC on the front. I used this combination to ride to Deadhorse from Ky and back, to include the Top of the World Highway and The Dalton. They made it the entire 10000 mile trip, handled surprisingly well as long as you slow down a bit for turns in the rain. As I was tent camping on a month long trip, the bike (R1200GS) was heavily loaded and they did just fine. One caveat is that the Heidy didnt like the snotty oatmeal of the Dalton in a rainstorm/snowstorm/sleet take your pick lol, it got a bit greasy. But it was a compromise that was well worth it and perfectly doable. I put street tires on it after I returned home, but now I want that combination back because I prefer how it handles even on pavement.................
I should also mention our appreciation towards your intelligently mapped out commentary below the video regarding links and video time frames as to where to find the specific subject matter you spoke about....so well laid out. Very impressed. One of My top 3 channels now for two wheelin' knowledge along with mototech and the awesome Fortnine who tell like it is.
Saluté
Michael
Sorry 'Mototrek'*
Good stuff as always! Thanks for uploading these informative videos guys!
Bicycle mini hand pump. Has not failed me yet. Entertaining as always, nice job.
Soft luggage with racks that also support hard luggage is really the universal way to go on these bikes. Hard for touring, Soft for offroad. Glad you covered this, as I wish I had skipped the OEM yamaha luggage for my Tenere. Soft bags should force you to pack modestly. Don't put shit on the bike you DON'T NEED. Adding more weight to an already heavy bike sucks off road, and new riders apparently enjoy learning that the hardware (I did too!). I also don't care for my hangdown banging on the tank bag either. Another hard (twss) lesson. Had to get rid of the big yamaha tank bag, now I use the Bags connection Micro bag. Gives me plenty of room for my modestly sized man package.
I've noticed that no one mentions that if you go from a street oriented tires to off-road tires that there will likely be a slower speed designation on the off-road tires and that caution should be exercised of the difference in handling. Just saying ....
This video is exactly what I was looking for! Thanks for posting.
Thanks for the info. Just ordered the back rack dry bag and used revzilla cash which came out to 40.00 bucks with free shopping!
Bro, you had my laughing at the starbucks. Totally shows you guys get motorcycling and pay attention to the popular sub cultures of motorcycling.
The more I look into this the more I want one.
TKC 70s Front and back on an R1200GSA, Seattle to Deadhorse and back. They did fine, but they were DONE after 7000 miles. Good on the highway and fine in the slop. That ride is mostly highway, but the slop is, well, slop.
Love your min 7 moment with the helmet/sunglasses/coffee XD Thanks for the video!!
and Cupholder! ☕️
Oh I gotta get a cup holder ☺ great vid!
Starbucks off-road... awesome! Cup holder on order!
This changes everything. -TeamZilla Chris
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/ram-mounts-u-bolt-cup-holder-kit
A mini air pump would be useful. I’m running Öhlins on my ‘05 GS, suspension even smoother and cooler temps.
I had a decked out V'Strom DL650, and now have a mostly stock 2018 BMW G310GS. Ihave a strong feeling the "Mini ADV Bike" segment is fixing to explode with sales, and I feel these ideas shown here will apply to those bikes as well! I have been checking in on your website almost daily for G310GS new product updates. :-D I have been a 'Zilla customer for nearly 4 years now. :-D
COYOTE ADVENTURES yes..imagine you put these mods,including replacing the rims to spoke ones..OMG;It will turn the GS baby to real Adventure bike..proud of..
The cup holder with Starbucks is priceless. ADV is the new sport-touring. Outlaw biker types and fat old farts have done a very effective job of turning younger-minded folks away from big touring bikes (aka two-wheeled Winnebagos). Given the rapid decline in the quality of roads across the US, you don't necessarily need to go "offroad" to need offroad capabilities. More ADV please.
awesome tips. looking forward to the touring video!
Nice work on this video. Sound advice in a solid and professional video. Thanks! Murtah is my 08 GSA and he'll be tickled by some of these upgrades like soft luggage. Those factory boxes are good for tarmac riding kit, though.
7:08. That hair toss tho XD
Would like to see the ADV Touring mods discussion. Think about covering air flow protection (windscreen) without going to the barn door solution. LOL... You've just reinforced the myth that many ADV riders only make it as far as Starbucks.
Thoroughly helpful video.
The Triumph Tiger Explorer got no love when you mentioned the "other" big adventure bikes! I use mine off road all the time and it does very well. I suggest headlight protectors too. Breaking a lens in one of these bikes gets quite expensive. Great video though!
Hey Spurg, around the 12:00 mark when you talk about rotating the bars, it feels worthwhile to also discuss adjusting your controls as well. With the amount that you rotated your bars forward, now the brake and clutch levers will be at awkward angles and hard to reach in any position other than standing.
The earlier HexHead R1200GS had OEM crash bars that actually risk major damage to the cylinder head. A crash will push the bar backwards into the rocker cover. That rips out the retaining screws or cracks the lugs out of the head casting. Scrapped cylinder head and huge oil leak.
The so-called head protectors from Touratech et election were even worse. Held in place by 6mm screws. Any significant impact rips the lug out of the cylinder head. Another scrapped head and a huge oil leak leaving you stranded.
The off road schools consider the rocker covers are consumables.
so motivating! My heart may stop, as my f800gs 2014 is still @ barn!
Great review and very professional... superior to alot of stuff on the web... keep doing the good work... I will spend my money on Revzilla's products because I know that ya'll care about your customers...
Thanks so much for the kind words, Marc! You should see our parking lot on a warm day. We all ride here. Our philosophy is to talk to our customers like they are our riding buddies. No BS all the way. -TeamZilla Chris
Still I like having Pelican cases, since they are the most durable and not much heavier than soft luggage. Caribou luggage is where I get my stuff from, look into them!
sweet hair flip
Very well done video. Thanks for the great information
In the first scene of turning wrenches I could have sworn that I saw 3 grand catch on fire:)
Best 50/50 tires for my Tiger 800xc that I ’ve used are Motoz Tractionator GPS’. Longevity of heidenau k60 but better performance than Mitas E-07.
This was fantastic info. Thanks so much!
can't seem to find that "companion piece" on (primarily road) touring with an adventure bike..
that's because there is no point in buying an ADV bike if you are just going to ride on the roads. if you want to tour, buy a touring bike lol.
Pls publish the touring video asap Spurge! Been waiting for that eagerly :-)
I got my new Ducati Multistrada 1200 enduro last December. You conveniently did not mention Ducati once. No matter. 160 horse power at my command and all the adds you mentioned plus sat nav and hand heaters. Where we are going, we don't need roads.
One of my old guy friends went with hard case panniers because he saw a video of someone dropping off a cliff, and the metal boxes were the only things that saved the person's legs from being crushed by the KLR.
I believe my hard metal panniers prevented my leg from being broken worse in a collision. Plus the locking is nice.
Wow, that's quite a strong argument for metal panniers. I have heard countless stories of them acting as excellent 'crash bars' as well. -TeamZilla Chris
I have givi outback trekkers on my bike, saved my leg from being turned into mince meat with the weight if the bike on top sliding down the road. however, I do like the versatility of soft luggage. all comes down to personal preference 😊
My Givi Trekker boxes survived being smashed into a bollard at 20mph, the frame gave out before the boxes
I've tried a few different hard and soft paniers, but I always go back to nothing but a knapsack and a small tank bag.
For the most part love your videos. But seriously why mention a follow on video if you have no intentions of actually making the video? All I see in the comments is that you have no timeline and that has been the answer for a year now.
Very good. I am short 5’4”. But I love the GS 1250. Please give some tips to handle it well
Regarding the tip at 16:20 of in a pinch using a tube on tubeless wheel. How would that be done? On that R1200GS, where would you access the valve stem? Thank you.
I have one. I do not care about all reviews. I like mine gs, and I happy to be it owner.
Awesome vid! Thanks man!
I just bought a '13 F800GS to start getting into ADV/ back country riding. At my age (58), I need all the help I can get. My question: from the house to anywhere are the typical miles of pavement, so tire performance for on/off road is a stumper for me. I'm thinking I should ease into the tire issue by going with Heidenau's 50/50 tires, then something more appropriate for off-road as I build my experience. Or, are the off road tires still solid performers on pavement? I just sort of lope along on pavement enjoying the views...but wet pavement and tire selection does have my attention. Advice or suggestions are welcome... Thanks!
I like the Mitas E-07s a bit more than the Heidenaus if you really need long tire life, but for a better bias towards off-road grip without totally reducing tire life (as with the TKC80s), then look at the Mitas E-09s. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/mitas-e-07-tires
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/mitas-e-09-tires
Spoked wheels should be on top picks as well, if you plan to go offroad
Omg! Right on time!
I got the same exact bike on Saturday
Congrats on the new bike.
Spurgeon Dunbar I had been riding a Vstrom 1000 for 13 years. It was about time!
I'm looking forward to the next video for touring!
You do great reviews!
I was tempted by yours on the R1200RS.
But I wasn't sure my back was going to adapt to it after so many years in the Vstrom
Haha.... My dad had an '05 V-Strom 1000 for 12 years until he totaled it last year when we were out riding in West Virginia. Out of all of the bikes I've brought home over the years for him to try, the R 1200 RS has been his favorite. But, he had the same complaint as you, the riding position was too aggressive. He's just started shopping for a new bike and a Bavarian Boxer is at the top of his list. I'll have to let him know you went with the GS.
Thanks for the kind words and following along with our work here at RevZilla. Lem and I love having the opportunity to present bike reviews as well as all of this other original content. Best of luck with that new Beemer!
Funny!
Now that you mention Lemmy, he was the one that put the final nail with his "Ode to the R1200GS" piece...
My Thanks to both of you guys
By the way tell your dad to contact me anytime for a chat...
what do you guys recommend for knee protection on ADV riding ( more off-road than on road) ? Knee braces, knee guard or something like Klim pant with D3O knee protection.
For more off-road/technical riding, we recommend going with knee guards or knee braces. -DrewZilla
@ 2:22, you mention producing an additional video for this bike geared to more on road, than off. However, I can't find it. Have you made it yet?
It's on the back burner for now as we focus on some other reviews. -DrewZilla
Nice video!
Those barkbusters look like they will bend your bars if dropped
Great video
Any idea when the Adventure Touring video will be released? I saw in other commitments it was on the back burner a year ago, is there a timeline for it to be completed? Keep up the amazing work!
Right now it's still on the back burner. -DrewZilla
What do you think about the conti TKC80? I'm planning on replacing my anakee 3 with TKC80 to have more offroad capabilities.
Omegote those tires are great but you pay for it. tire life your lucky to get over 3k miles...
What kind of off-road riding do you plan on doing? If you're not tacking a lot of loose sand and mud you might find a better compromise between dirt and street with a more 50/50 tire, something like the Mitas E-07. Better off-road grip than the Anakees while still getting 6-7,000 miles out of rear tire. I've used them in the past and only moved away from them because I wasn't getting enough grip in the sand out in the Pine Barrens in New Jersey.
I think the TKC80's are a great for riders looking to spend the majority of their time off-road. They have become the workhorse tire for dirt-oriented ADV-riders. @mondragon078 is right in the fact that you will sacrifice longevity. On my last set of TKC80s on my Tiger 800 XCx I got roughly 2,400 miles out of the rear. Keep in mind that included a lot of rock and dirt and a few endurance rallies where that rear took a lot of abuse spinning and skidding over rough surfaces.
I just switched to Mitas E-09s. I am trying these for the first time after a buddy recommended them over the TKCs. Said he was getting better grip and slightly longer life out of them. We'll see how they work out. The important thing to remember is that there isn't a right or wrong answer here, it's really about finding the right compromise between street and dirt for your style of riding.
I run a TKC80 on the front of my Triumph Scrambler. I run a Mitas E-07 in the rear. TKC80s are a fantastic tire for on and off-road use. They handle great on the pavement and don't just "look the part" when using them off-road. Their limitation is tread life, especially as a rear tire on a heavy bike. That is the reason I chose a Mitas E-07 for the rear - best of both worlds! -TeamZilla Chris
Omegote Shinko 705s in the front and mitas e07 Dakar in the rear is my setup.
Thanks awesome video
How do you get a tube stem to work with those wheels? Pretty sure I have the same wheels on my F700gs, and the valve stem is built into a spoke.
Very good video!
Very informative video. May I ask what boots would you recommend to ride that bike hard off-road during a few days trip?
Forma Terra gets my vote... not to stiff for all day... right price... good protection, I love mine
Miguel Macias I second that option.
The Forma Terra recommended looks great. Price aside, any comments on how they compare to Alpinestars Toucan or Sidi Adventure? Proyection/Comfort
I use the TCX X-Helium Michelin boots. They are beefy, protective dirt boot but with enough comfort built in to use them over multiple days. I've used these in everything from single-day endurance rallies to seven days on- and off-road in Baja. You're not going to get the Gore-Tex waterproof protection like with the Toucan or the Sidi's, but that never bothered me.
The Forma Terra's are more of a lightweight ADV/Touring boot. @Pallusubaru is right in the fact that the are not stiff and they offer all-day comfort but they're not going to give you the protection for "hard off-road". The reason more aggressive boots are stiff and less comfortable is because they're designed to protect your foot and ankle in the event of a crash or smashing up against a rock or tree. Depending on how hard you're going off-road I would err on the side of protection over comfort.
Those Alpinestars and Sidi's are a pretty great compromise between comfort and protection. The TCX X-Heliums I use are just as protective but for less money. The main sacrifice, however, is going to be comfort as they're not waterproof and they don't have the hinged ankle system.
SW motech makes great products for an adv!! You haven't even mentioned them !!
I have 690 enduro r, what tire pressure would you recommend?
hey revzilla. are you guys ever going to do the adventure touring video?
Cup holder with starbucks in it on a GS 😂
more ADV style vids please! This was great!
i have a aprilia pegaso 650 wish there was more aftermarket options for it..
when are you guys going to do the touring adventure video you mentioned in this video? As much as I love the idea of going off road on my V strom, I would like to do some adventure touring with my pals too.
We don't have a firm date for that one yet. -DrewZilla
So what's the status on that touring oriented mods video and moto camping video???
It's in the works. Our video team is only about a dozen people and we still crank through product review videos every day, so these more intensive guides get assembled in pieces over several months at this point. -TeamZilla Chris
RevZilla I can't wait! #Suweet
Nice video, but to take that bike off road, you should really change those wheels. I bet the standard wheels will break in off road conditions.
Claes Nørskov ru talking bout alloys?:>>
Well BMW do use spoked wheels on their adventure version, so there must be some truth to it.
Claes Nørskov they will not brittle beacause of the material bmw use is quite effective compair to other cheap(indian) bikes:>>
Dude... that is not the Adventure GS, its the regular GS, the GSA is the Adventure bike you keep referring to. GSA ! which is 40 heavier by the way.
thanks for the informative video subscribed
Tube on a bmw mag wheel? 90 degree casting for the tyre valves on those I suspect they haven't actually ridden on
But the question is: how can we make a dual-sport more adventure worthy/comfy on the road 🤔🤔🤔
Seat concepts, windscreen, and possibly taller gearing?
It all depends on the bike. In some cases, the real trick is making an adventure bike more capable for OFF-ROAD use rather than on. As Aaron L points out, an upgraded saddle, windscreen, and gearing changes can get you a cruising more comfortably down the highway. Hand-guards will also help cut the wind while doing double-duty as brush guards off-road. -TeamZilla Chris
will you guys ever have lem lem do a video on carb maintenance/rejetting/tuning? i feel like that's the #1 thing to do on most dual sports (aka KLR650 and XR650L lol)
It's possible we'll make a video on that. In the meantime, feel free to peruse Lemmy's _How to Clean a Carb_ article. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/common-tread/spring-carb-cleaning-101
Am I still missing the on-road video?
Can you fit a GSA1200 fuel tank on a GS1200 ??? That will enable the "normal" GS riders to have a longer range... can it be done?
For that, you'll need to ask your BMW dealer. Offhand, it's unclear what all you would need to change. -DrewZilla
Nice vid! Now, how about a Naked Bike version? ;)
Could you please elaborate more on the dry bag security against theft of valuables inside.
So there is no way to easily lock the majority of dry bags to your bike which is one of the biggest criticisms against using them. Kriega is supposed to have a cable lock to use with their bags but it's still not perfect. If you are parking in a sketchy area you might want to avoid leaving the bags on the bike.
When you're riding off-road with luggage chances are you'll be spending your nights in campsites with other like minded folks that hopefully won't pinch your gear. If you are riding in urban areas and you are primarily concerned with safety, locking hard bags might be a better option for you.
Still waiting for that Adventure touring video lol
very informative... thanks
Is the Video mentioned (make ADV's more street capable) allready out ? Because I can't find it.
No, it isn't out, and we don't yet have an ETA for it. -DrewZilla
can you tell me witch electric airpump n mobile charger(can be use aswell for airpump) we can use for off road touring :>>
The Stop & Go Kit can be run directly from your bike's battery. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/stop-go-tubeless-puncture-pilot
RevZilla yes thanks for tat help but i also want to know a separate 12v bike mobile charger and electric air pump coz i don't want puncher kit :>>
That's the only electric pump we carry. For a USB charger, here are some options. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/battery-tender-usb-charger (requires SAE-style battery lead)
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/oxford-usb-dual-socket
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/bike-master-dual-usb-charger-with-handlebar-mount
Good video. Should have replaced those foot pegs though.
We were just starting off with the basics. While I agree with you that you can get better support and all-day comfort from a wider peg, I was able to do seven days straight in Baja on the stock GS pegs without any really discomfort. We wanted to focus on the basics with this video as we didn't want to intimidate new or interested ADV-riders with a laundry list of mods and suggestions. Thanks for the tip, though! It's a good suggestion for people looking to refine their bike even further!
Nice video. Just a note, the GS alloy wheels are not recommended for offroad riding. I went with a Triple Black so I could get the spoked wheels without paying the GS Adventure price tag.
Are those mods available for the 2016 Honda Africa Twin Adv motorcycle and where can one get them?
Which mods are you interested in? AltRider had elaborate crash protection for the Africa Twin: www.revzilla.com/altrider
If you punch your bike into the bike finder you can find all of the options available for the Africa Twin. If you have any specific items you're looking for I'd be happy to point you in the right direction.
When does that adv touring video come out? That's my kind of riding! :)
We don't have a date yet. -DrewZilla
this guy is huge!
I prefer "big-boned".
“Oh, well, I don’t plan on using my big adventure off road!”
Well then why did you buy this and not a bagger or a tourer?! 😆
Bad roads.
I can't seem to find the others to this series
Sooo where does the stem of the inner tube go if you had to use it on a mag wheel?
If you bend the rim, or can't set the bead on the trail, you can remove the valve stem and run the valve stem for the tube in its place. If you are running one of these modern BMW mags where the valve stem is in the side of one of the spokes (ie- like the one in this video) this trick doesn't work.
Is there at least an aprox date or something for on road touring video?!
After this video was shot, there wasn't time in the shoot schedule to make the on-road video. It's possible we'll have time to make it in the future, but for now, it's on hold. -DrewZilla
@@RevZilla 2 bad I was waiting for this video because it am preparing a trip 12 days with few of my friends
I thought the title says "Best Adventure Motorcycle Mods" not "Best Off-Road Adventure Motorcycle Mods". I got my hopes up it was a video for me haha
There is a more street/touring oriented video in the works.
Spurgeon Dunbar amazing looking forward to it! Thanks.
Maybe im dumb but why is there a shock under the front fairing?(not the forks)
JodogX13 google telelever
I think that BMW has one of the anti-compression shocks in the front so that if you mash the front brake, the bike doesn't nose dive on you...I think. Someone who actually rides one will probably correct me if I'm wrong!
That is the telelever front suspension - the shock is the only thing doing the damping, the forks are just there to keep the wheel pointed straight and guide it up and down :) Feels weird for the first 10 miles or so but after that it is great. No dive during braking, and really good suspension feel both on road and off (in my humble and biased opinion as an owner).
Could you please have Lemmy review the gs1200 adventure