Which Cuts Better? Albion Knecht or Principe (Kriegsmesser vs. Longsword)
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'Principe has a somewhat fragile blade...... You'll see in the next video'
I have a bad feeling about this...
Flashbacks to 6 years ago when he shot a sword with a gun.
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762
is skall shooting swords again
Nooooooo-
"Principe has a somewhat fragile blade , you'll see that in the next video"
**flashbacks of him shooting a sword**
It'll be fun to watch him shoot a sword again
lol, right?
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Never
Forgets!
@SharkTank no
“The sweet spot is right where the fuller ends...so that’s where I want to...KNECHT”
Lol! I was gonna say the same thing ...this should have the most likes but most viewers are basic I guess
I was just gonna say that 😭
Noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!
"I'm not a machine..."
*does the exact same cut with two different swords*
Laputan Machine
Sticks and stones...
BetrayerOfNihil Take your best shot, flatlander woman!
Ikr!? Skall give yourself a break, dude! XD
Computer, Maschine, Panzermensch
Geh g'radeaus
Geh g'radeaus
The principe having a weight balance closer to the handle seems to have more control in the swing for you.
Sam Wamm those are the conclusions I came to myself as a blade maker, Knives should be blade heavy, and swords should be handle heavy
And it is probably stiffer that close to the hilt, which probably helps too.
10 minutes of a guy trying to justify cheating on his knecht.
The medieval weaponry design department is much less stupid than we think. That being said, Principe is a compromise: it increases the thrust capability trading the range of the best cut. Meaning it will perform its best cuts nearer the hilt. It is still able to cut nearer the tip obviously, but the heavy cuts have to be done nearer the hilt. Basicly Knecht has more cutting reach, while Principe has better thrusts. Its an excellent trade off if you consider armor and how armor kind of countered reach power. The longer slash range of the Knecht however would allow it to be used better on horseback.
But that ring that the Principe does after each cut...immensely satisfying.
I watched a HEMA cutting competition and all of the contestants pulled out a Principe and I was like "That's cheating"
It’s not cheating if we all do it at the same time c:
Well i guess if they all use the same weapon it levels the field.
@@oscallibur5597 so...the same for steroid?
@@kanck7909 only a fair comparison if it would be possible for one person to do better than another by doubling the amount of sword they use.
@@j.f.fisher5318 I don't understand. Can you explain please? What do you mean by the "amount" of sword? The number of sword they have used in their life time? The number of sword they can use on the tournament? The physical volume of metal of the sword? What is it?
Knecht : Who are you?
Principes : I'm you but straight.
and fat.
Oooooo
and w i d e
gay knecht
The Sound of the Principe is just so good!
@@spamwaffles1419 To me it sounded more of bonggggggggggggggggg!
Albion Knecht: A challenger dares to approach me?
Albion Principe: FINALLY A WORTHY OPPONENT
Rival brothers
Our duel will become legendary!
And the katana is just sitting in the corner moping.
@@vadandrumist1670 well the katana isn't the best cutter, just mainly because of how thick it is. Skall already stated that many other katana like blades have only come CLOSE to cutting as well as the Principe, its just that the Principe has a much thinner and wider blade.
@@stygiansong Yes, but nonetheless the katana shall be the example as it's the most overhyped sword of all. As it is lauded as the greatest cutting sword, it shall be shamed as a pretender to the throne.
Besides that, my comment was more to relieve annoyance after being triggered by the words "Katanas are some of the weapons that have been established as both a work of art and a powerful weapon, all while being very enticing for a large number of young people.
They are much sharper than western swords.
However, they are much more difficult to use, as even making the slightest mistake in how the blade is lifted can easily damage it.
They were weapons for professionals." that I had just read somewhere else moments before.
"It has a weaker blade..."
DO NOT TELL ME THAT YOU BROKE THIS PIECE OF ART
@Jim Nickles swords are neither designed nor intended for chopping wood.
@Jim Nickles Have you watched Skall's review? He cut through a 3-inch tree with it, and it was fine
@Jim Nickles i can't take conclusions before seeing the video, and i my mind he took the 2 blades shown here and hit each other edge to edge, idk
@Jim Nickles I appreciate the abusive testing Skal does but Mat Easton made a good point talking about how all swords will fail, break, bend etc. You could have a $100,000 sword made for a king and it can fail, it's all about context. The type of sword, the blade profile, the steel, how it is used, and what it hits.
It's a shame to see that Principe fail but it should tell us two things; 1. Don't hold it against the sword it what it is and there is nothing faulty in it's manufacture it failed because of it's blade profile, how it was used, and what it hit. 2. This should let many people realize that some cheaper swords that "failed" abusive testing also shouldn't always be judged so harshly, it isn't as simple as cheap sword weaker than expensive sword. I could buy a 40$ axe right now that wouldn't have failed, but it's all about context.
There is pros and cons in all sword design. A really excellent thin slicing blade can and will break, but it will cut and slice against flesh and clothing much better than something heavier. A important fact that most people fail to realize in modern times is a sword really only had to survive a single battle or kill a single person realistically, it's usually an emergency side arm, if you need to draw it and strike at someone and defend yourself, and the sword is beat to hell and back, bent and chipped apart, but you lived, the sword did it's job.
@Jim Nickles Tell me, Jim, how many times have you been in combat with a sword?
The slowed down sound of the Principe cutting is INCREDIBLE!
2:21 "That's where I want to knecht" Clever, well played.
Oh no he broke the principe didn’t he!
Yeah, the text in end made me suspect that he broke the Principe.
😢 Big sad.
Oof
I doubt he's going to break the blade, but we'll probably see some bending of the edge. Like if he hits a branch and it twists, you could see a pretty significant dent in the blade.
@@XdivineExp Yeah, in his initial review of it, he was worried about that, and with good reason because that blade is wide and thin. It's probably like cutting with a giant metal leaf.
Mmm, nice. Those side-by-side slow-mo shots are the best.
In my layman opinion (before watching the video):
Knecht is slightly more difficult to use, but it's a damn tank of a blade
Principe more forgiving, but the blade requires more care and attention
I personally like the Messer more
There's no point in a cheat code, if it can't carry into the 10th duel.
one more thing to mention is that skall had the knecht for way longer and did some really abusive stuff with it.
@@windhelmguard5295 Exactly, that's why I also prefer the knecht.
The principe is a better cutter, but the tradeoff in durability doesn't seem worth it
@@windhelmguard5295 Mmmm it is what i thought, the blade maybe was not sharp enough, it is what i felt. I would take the Kriegsmesser too :D.
also the difference between two swords of similar length where one has a sweet spot that is halfway down the blade vs another sword where it is 2/3 of the way down the blade is not an inconsiderable difference in a fight. Though the Principe would be far better for stabbing.
Love the sound of these blades 'singing' as they cut!
“Principe blade is fragile” he says after burying it in thick wet branches for a week
The single handed cut with the principe was soooo clean. Some of the cuts with principe seemed off but still performed just as well as knecht
"So that's where I want to connect" he says holding the Knecht. Intentional or not?
Intentional.
He certainly Knechted. Twice!
"Principe has a somewhat fragile blade
compared to the Knecht...
You'll see in the next video"
Please dont shoot it
This is a video we really need!
I figured. :)
Idc, that trianguler blade has become my favorate other than hooked weapons such as billhook.
Damn the Knecht is gorgeous! I wonder if Albion will ever produce them again
Hoping. I really am hoping.
If you want a Kriegsmesser then landsknecht emporium might be an option
I heard they were working on another model of Kriegsmesser.
No details, but that's what I heard.
@@xluca1701 yes
LE is a far better option. Not only are they a bit less expensive, but they are made exactly as they were historically. They can be a bit rough around the edges, but that's what you get for a hand-made sword, rather than the cookie-cutter Albions.
Like the difference between an (admittedly really tasty) takeout burger and a hand-made steak burger.
I was rooting for the Principe but theyre both badass swords anyway
I've always adored the Knecht's handle, its absolutely beautiful and looks so comfortable.
I don't use European blade often but i have tried the Principe. Where i practice everyone agreed it was one the most effective sword for tatami mat cutting.
In fact they told it was so easy to get results with it, that one should train himself with something else to get the form right. Because this sword can correct your mistake on its own.
Actually it's very similar to a Korean Samgakdo. Both swords are so effective against tatami lol.
I have heard samgakdo is also rather fragile, and should not be used against hard targets. Principe at least seem to have extremely optimized blade geometry for soft target cutting, but the edges are wide, and thin making it slize through the mat. But thin edge profile also means its bit fragile
@@lalli8152 yes it's true, a Samgakdo is a very fragile design mainly used for unarmored combat. Even tho... modern advanced steel help a lot, like... properly heat treated L6 or else.
Still... you can tell it's a fragile blade.
To cut bamboo or any hard target, a Jingum is more suited.
One of the really interesting things I found about this video is that it functions as a beautiful exposition of how this kind of practice (and its video component, like a musician recording their practice) can function as a great way of visually tracking and holding yourself accountable about your precision and accuracy in cutting. Thanks!
Me: "You're gonna cut chemical bottles? Careful you don't get them any in your ey-"
Skall: "It's eye wash"
Me: "Oh. Carry on."
"Now the sweet spot on the messer is right where the fuller ends, so I know that's right where I wanna knecht."
You thought you were being sneaky but I see what you did there.
"I know that the sweet spot is right here, at the end of the fuller... so that's where I want it to Knecht" ;)
We saw whatcha did there.
Both of the Albion's make really satisfying clangs every time they cut. I can see "Cutting mats in silence with a longsword while out in the wilderness ASMR" being a very pleasant video to listen to. XD
2:20 "so that's where i want to Knecht" I see whet you did there.
Battle of the champions. Absolutely beautiful. Gorgeous! I appreciate the testing.
Who is this eye wash man and why do his eyes need so much washing
Many work locations.
he probably owns a business and it just expired on him.
very dry eyes
@@snowy-g9p Maybe he sells contact lenses and cleans the customers eyes before try ons?
Probably someone who works at a place that uses a lot of chemicals, so has lots of eyewash stations, maybe works in the safety department so he has free access to the expired stuff as long as it is gone when he's done with it.
The SOUND man... So satisfying!
Wow, you pronounced Knecht almost perfectly in the beginning, you have my respect!
Looks like you’ve lost some weight, super proud of you man, it’s hard work!
That noise the Knecht made on it's first cut was ICE cold, man. 🥶🥶
That cling noise from the Principe is so epic ❤️
Skall isn't fat for no reason,he's making sure his centre of gravity is low so that his stances can be extra sturdy.
I remember him being thinner, I think? Did he take on that weight because of the quarantine?
Both of these cut great and you can tell any error or issues are user caused, but you do cut better with the Principe.
I love the BOING that the Principe makes when you hit the Tatami.
Without watching video, Im gonna call Principe-longsword!
Edit: not ruining it to you fools who read comments before watching, but that was some sexy cutting by both blades
Skall you are ridiculously good at wielding sharp hunks of steel. Always a pleasure to see in action. When the zombie apocalypse comes or once I become a vampire, I am definitely hunting you down.
2:25 That is the most satisfying after sound (decay sound?) I've heard so far.
I just love that metal clanging sound as it cuts.
Principe is my favourite among the two
I've always regretted not snapping up a Knecht when I had the chance. I may need to do better with the Alexandria, which I like slightly more than the Principe. They're all just wicked, wicked cutters.
(Hope your Principe is all right!)
Basically, from what I'm seeing. The swords are better than I will ever be.
Why am l being reccomended this vid after 4 YEARS !??!!?!? This is my 1st time seeing it ever .
The sound the principe makes when you strike with it is like music to my ears.
The Principe's blade is more fragile than the Knecht's because it's thinner, and the Knecht's gets thicker towards the spine?
Yep. And that's what you really expect from a single-edged sword.
Principe would pass through the target more easily though.
Makes me think of the fire emblem games where swords have letter grades going from D to C, B, A, and even S rank. The better the letter grade the more damaging the weapon generally is but the higher graded swords are also more fragile and will become unusable much faster than the lower grade swords.
@@Raigius washing pole... You literally need repair powders to keep using that thing in Ds1 and 2
@@afinoxi It's a meme weapon tho, it's like complaining that random stick you found off the ground is both weaker and less durable than an actual sword
These cuts are pleasing to the eye
Those single handed slices were great too watch 👍
This was probably the most satisfying skall vid
The sound of those two are just so satisfaing
“I’m not a machine”
Proceeds to cut object almost exactly the same way every single time.
Some of these cuts need to be added to one of those oddly satisfying videos
"Thats what she Said!" XD legendary
Performance aside, I like how the Principe sings when it cuts.
Was just thinking of you earlier and now theres a video. Cool
the Ringing sound after each cut makes me fall in love more with swords.. not like i already am not
Wasn’t sure where to comment this but I have loved watching your channel and it just recently got me into HEMA and cutting. I previously got swords from Ronin Katana (Euro one; and really impressed with the quality) and Darksword Armory (Knight Bastard Sword; don’t even get me started on how disappointed I am with the quality and their customer service) but you have inspired me to shoot for the stars lol. I made my purchases for the Lockwood 15th Century long Sword and scabbard from Stephen Lockwood AND scooped the Albion Principe with a Christian Fletcher custom scabbard. I am beyond excited for both and during the wait am getting my cutting and long sword fenching chops up (although those swords won’t come in handy for sparing unless I want to go to jail for involuntary manslaughter lol). I just wanted to say thank you for your inspiration and passion it’s most definitely infectious and once my wallet recovers lol I am looking forward to supporting your ambitions in any way I can. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO!
"I know the sweet spot is right where the fuller ends, so that's where I want to ... Knecht." I don't even care if that was intentional. I demand that you take credit for that amazing pun.
“That’s what she said?” So proud. 😁
So from what I get from this is get both.... Cries in poverty
I feel you, man. All I have is a sharp butter knife.
@@MrBlorp-sf9ye a SHARP butter knife you say? Can't say that's very common. You must be rolling in the dough
@@Biggiiful I've sharpened three so far. All up to flesh-slicing quality. Only a matter of time until my grandparents notice that our butter knives are transforming into daggers.
the ringing sound is so satisfying
Any of those cuts would've been nasty in someone's body
Except that failed one. It was like a bash with an edge.
What a morbid chocolate addicted beast you are
@@hashimrahman51the flex wont matter if you do it right
@@hashimrahman51 I think you need something a bit more protective to nullify its incredible cutting capacity.
@@addictedtochocolate920 yeah mere padding wouldn't stand up to such a sword, you would need at least some kind of metal armour
I love the sound the Principe makes :D
Finally what I love to see. Longsword and Kriegsmesser in direct comparison. Thank you a lot. And one can clearly see how adept your technique looks.
Didn't know watching a guy swinging long sharp thin metal strips can be this satisfying.
Damn those cuts on those bottles sound satisfying
Two of my favourite sword in one video!
Your accuracy is fantastic. 👌
Oh Skall, you always know what I’m curious about the most.
2:24 mmmmh, that ringing sound. Lovely.
Still saving up for the Principe!
Principe makes such a satisfying sound
4:59 gotta love them cartoon sfx
The Knecht probably also cuts better the last couple of inches of the blade, thanks to the curve.
i disagree, on other curved blades like scimitars and falchions the increased mass and wider blade at the end makes them cut better, there isnt more mass at the end of the knecht so i dont think the curve would have a meaningful effect.
I'd call for a repeat using the tips to cut, but given that note about the fragility of the Principe blade, maybe that won't happen.
Sizeable_ Lad mass helps with hacking cuts, but mass is generally less necessary for other effective types of cut when talking about sword tips.
You actually need a very strong curve to make a sensible difference in cutting.
Curved blades would often be curved just because of quirks during fabrication process, differences in hardness and thickness causing a curvature during hardening/quenching, etc...
There isn't much advantage of a curved blade to a straight blade, it might open some different technics I guess (not an expert in hema so I might be wrong), and the curvature helps with edge alignement. Like, when you swing it, the curve of the blade naturally tends to guide the blade in a proper alignement.
As said in previous comments some curved swords were better cutters not because of the curve, but because of differences in weight, and balance.
@super grassman
With no armour involved the most swords end you in one hit...
Love both
8:41 don't tell me you've shot it again...
Ah, who am I kidding, you've thrown a pommel at it.
Note to self: DON'T get in sword fight with Skall! ( Nice work, man}!
I love how the most replayed part of the video is 3:58 which is people clicking a few seconds back to see which leg was in front XD
2:22 'so thats where i want to Knecht'
We were waiting for this
I like the sound of the longsword cutting the tatami in slow motion xd
ON the topic of swords because i know you like them so much. I just found out there is a missile in the US inventory that deploys six swords and has no explosive charge.This is to reduce the chances of collateral damage to innocents.
The principe gets bonus points for having that very satisfying ringing sound after the cut
And best part? If you get a splinter in the eye you can just cut open another bottle
Knecht Vs Principe
German Vs Italian
Regardless, when each of these swords cuts through something, it's a pleasure... so satisfying.
2:21
Skall wants to conect with the knecht.
*Badum-Tss*
Principe looks more forgiving, but the messer is more durable (considering all your previous abuses).
I guess principe has a slight edge of cutting, where the messer is quite a bit stronger.
Skall - "I know that the sweet spot here is basically right where the fuller ends... So that's where I want to Knecht..." 😏
Me - 🤔 😆 I see what you did there! 😂🤣
cannot help but here the Berserk CLANG every time he cuts the bottles.
I feel a kreigsmesser like the Knecht is more utilitarian, made to be comfy to hold and durable, maybe even abit simpler to assemble? And I say "durable", especially due to that foreboding message about the Principe (._.). That said, both are top-notch, Albion-made swords, even if the longsword-style Principe is more forgiving for cuts. If they ever had to be used in a real fight, the differences in how fiercely they slice someone open would be negligible. Still, the comparisons are fun to witness.
@incinerator950 Ah, I wouldn't know about XVIIIc swords. Still, I could totally see specific swords being made as display pieces, functional or not. Parade armor and weapons are more intricate than necessary, and suits of armor made for display are heavier than those made for battle. IIRC, there are some absurdly large Japanese swords that were made to test and show off the swordsmith's skill, even if impractically long.
I am going to call the Principe "the prince of pain", and I dare you to stop me!
2:20 "That's where I want to K-necht" 2:25 The Knecht makes such a sexy schwing.
4:57 Swordgasm. 5:37 What a beautiful cut.