Powersd451 “except when it doesn’t do good things that affect me and my racist rhetoric, personally, that’s when I pull out my biggest trump card, my gun😎”
Anon ymous constantly reffering to black communities and culture as the ghetto is kinda sus... plus, as the comment above me said, denying systematic racism is harmful!
this is true brainwashing. they can’t support their racist bias without using non-legitimate evidence and want to make complete assumptions just to support their racist ideaology but can’t even back that! it’s a cycle of backpedaling and false claims to promote a harmful ideaology.
Talked to a person yesterday said they believe its okay for a position of power to act on there opinions and said person should not be punished for those actions
sunny pannu yeah they also think that’s it’s okay to deny people basic human rights when they are poor. it’s the consequence of capitalism that has engrained the idea that there MUST be a hierarchy of class, race and power, basically all of them being connected. it’s horrible
my favorite past time is going to ben shapiros videos and finding the people who say liberals don't have facts and then i bullet point about ten facts that disprove them and give them the source so they can educate themselves, its a livelihood
@@skippityblippity8656 do you oppose gay marriage because it should only be between a man and a woman like abortion should be for men to decide what they wanna do with their objects bodies because women must walk behind the man?
Nemo Windsor well it’s difficult to win against someone who A- doesn’t think he’s beaten. And B- ignores evidence and counters evidence with “but I think”. The stupid are the hardest to debate.
(+Darren Murray) “It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument against a stupid person.” -Bill Murray
@Cat Suppository Someone tried telling me that he didn't have the research done. I started fact-checking Vaush and he came out clean. It's a shame that whenever I watch Vaush, I get a load of conservative ads. I haven't seen one Trump VS MN ad in a few weeks, and I love those ads.
@Andrew Barnett I wouldn't say they are full of retards, not as much so as people who think politics don't affect them. I just think their heavily misinformed in a way that they think if they believe anything a leftist does then their "sleeping with the idiots" but the more fascist they get they thin they are "woke"
The worst part is this guy probably considers himself a rational person who respects the facts. But in reality he just dismisses any fact he doesn't like as a knee jerk response.
ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH um what are u talking about? Vaush’a entire argument was that when Asylum seekers go into custody at the border, they are then detained and sent to prisons that mimic the conditions present in concentration camps as they go through deportation proceedings, even though those who enter the country looking for asylum are held to a higher legal standard than illegal immigrants
ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH Asylum Seekers need to declare Asylum at a legal center, but if they are detained at the border before they get that chance, then they will be sent to a deportation center (basically concentration camps)
It's better that he knows than doesn't. Misinformation is a dangerous tool, equiped by the minds of naive people. The damage isn't always reversible, but it's always better to try what you can to lead them to factual information.
damn boi Nickvideos, Lancevideos are two big ones. He is debating Nick tomorrow (who is an idiot, but less idiotic then lance.) The kid Lance is the biggest radical idiot ive seen.
@@cosmickisses1995 I can kinda see nickvideos being moved a little bit to the left in the future since some of his views got changed after debating people but that lance is just a lost cause.
I love to hear conservative white teens act like they know anything about my life and my experiences. I honestly didn’t expect all these likes and comments i just was speaking from my personal experience
@@Camhart15 the upside is now you know all the bullshit points conservatives make, but a lot of work needs to be done to teach people we know that this shits barbaric.
@Ariel Levinson No one says race doesn't exist, just that most of it is based off of social constructs, the fact that "white" is a race nowadays is fucking hilarious
Ariel Levinson what?? No one is saying race doesn’t exist we’re saying you shouldn’t be racist and you shouldn’t be killed because assumptions based off you’re race
This kid has obviously never met any black people in his life, and has only seen them on tv shows and in movies. The rest of his info on them comes from his racist relatives and four Chan.
@@wrok3 No, he is just racist. Even if he genuinly believes he isn't and blames culture, he still is. Did you miss the entirety of him justifying concentration camps at the border?
@@wrok3 could you explain your viewpoint in more detail? Because it sounds an awful lot like racism with extra steps and I'd hate to just assume you're a racist trying to fly under the radar.
@ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH Mkay...so apparently defending oppressed groups such as POC is despising white people? Sounds like something a racist would say...
@@biancasierra5001 ikr i think any random internet socialist could stomp one when they had 0 hours of sleep for 2 days and did some drugs just a bit before
@@martysmarts4494 yesss i watched that ben shapiro video like two years ago and immediately when the kid said that i knew he was just stealing the same damn soundbites from benny boy, word for word. and i found it even more amusing when he was backpedalling and trying not look like a ben shapiro fanboy by saying that he doesnt watch him or steven crowder. hilarious.
So true. Thats shows that they didnt think that far when building their opinion. The other day a republican called blm a terrorist organzisation (not directly), he wrote the organization that riots, murders and blablabla and i called him out for not applying the concept of terrorism to the police or army when they do exaclty the same at an even larger extent. They literally havent reflected to that point. So the laughing is defintely always an indicator to when an republican cant further process things because the propaganda they ve been fed isnt applicable/logical even more. Happens everytime you call them out😂😂
Infinity Salinity I think a sociology degree is very relevant to this debate, considering it’s the study of social problems. The sociology of racism, prejudice, ethnicity etc. So what’s your degree? :)
@@infinitysalinity7981 A sociology degree actually prepares people to work in fields like education, research, journalism, statistics, and government. As well as it can lead to further education in anthropology, political science, linguistics, and psychology. Its a VERY good degree in terms of employability and education. Just because you don't like the guy who has the degree it doesn't mean it's useless. People who have them are much more employable than people like you. Especially making a broad and generalizing statement such as that.
@@infinitysalinity7981 I'm sorry are you dumb? That might be the most useful degree in this type of debate. Education isn't suddenly fake and useless when you say it is.
What do you think they are? "Black Supremacist's"? Hahaha: Awesome. I'm not sure how I stumbled upon your channel, I'm a 45 year old woman and mother of a 14 year old. I'm glad I did though, you give me hope :)
I’m a mom of teens too. I’m learning a lot about the youth culture, and I’m heartened by what I see. I think my oldest might like Vaush’s style. I’ll subtly recommend it to him. Maybe he can watch this as “social studies homework.”
@@abigailsmith6977 i turned 18 recently and guys like vush and parents like you give me hope that things may be able to change for the better and everyone like him is doing awesome work they know how to debate and get there point across well along with just being fun to watch and they are just countering the large amount of right wing alt right stuff on here i watch them from to to time just to try to counter them as well and try to prove that they may not be as good as some think they are but it is hard work and vush knows how these guys work so he does far better than me and you are doing awesome work by showing this to your kids after all he may get them involved in politics like he has with me and due to that i have also made some of my best friends
@Spartan 506 Saying "I don't like this law" won't fly in court mate. Laws exist, and societies are expected to adhere to them. My point is that the US is hypocritical. They will condemn any terrorist attacks on US soil but will ignore, brush over or lie about atrocities their military commit overseas. Sometimes they will even try to paint civilian deaths in other countries in a positive light. "Look at how brave our soldiers are, putting themselves at risk." kind of thing.
Warhammered theres a law called the “american servicemember protection act” from the bush era which allows the states to use any means necessary to prevent any servicemember from prosecution by the ICJ and ICC
@@YassinePineapple That's fucked up. No wonder everybody is starting to hate america more and more. I was thinking of incidents like the Blackwater mercenaries firing into civilian cars with 50 cals and M4s. Then Fox News tries to paint the men being investigated as simply misunderstood and "unsung heroes". Americas fetishism of the military is just cult like and quite disturbing.
I used to be a Ben Shapiro kid. Thank god I have a brain and educated myself. wow just noticed this blew up, but glad to know so many people are in the same boat.
Ohhhhhhh that is so amazing to hear!!! I just learned who that guy was a week ago and he is just a pathological liar that is brainwashing his viewers into believing his fake news agenda!!! How old were you when you were into Shapiro?
Progressive: “innocent till proven guilty” Also progressives: this random girl on the internet said she was raped. Let’s go doc that guy and ruin his career over no evidence!
@@ingrampile2188 it's the government's job to abide by innocent until proven guilty, whereas public opinion can side with whomever the fuck they want. If a friend or family member told you that someone raped/sexually assaulted them, would you say "prove it first, until then I'll keep hangingout with your possible rapist" or "oh my god that's awful, i never want to speak to that guy again"?? Hopefully the fucking second one. I'll side with potential victims, because rape/sexual assault is a horrible, traumatizing event and if there's even a possibility they went through that, I wouldn't want to further their pain. Of course you shouldn't be able to send someone to prison without any evidence, but that's not what the whole "believe women" movement is advocating for.
@Cat Suppository I'm very glad I've never heard a full "men can't be raped" argument. I like facts and honest social movements, not misinformation and fascists.
My bigot biological father and his other racist high school friends all went into the police force. My dad didn’t make it in because he didn’t pass the psychological evaluation, which is very telling. He’s also a felon now. It’s a small rural town you can get away with almost anything, the amount of times my fathers police buddies got him out of trouble when he should’ve faced charges is ridiculous. First hand experience on how bigots and white supremacists alike HAVE infiltrated the system, it’s more than common in rural towns. It goes deeper than that too.
@Boston Towny4life As the dad was literally too unstable for the *police force* and is also a felon, I’m going to guess he didn’t exactly treat his kid wonderfully lol
why tf were teenagers trying to debate against an adult with a degree in the field they're debating about?? like dude calm down, go finish ur essay for english
@@jojobobee8777 true I was able to ,,own" my teacher in high shool not becouse i have make good arguments but just becouse i was smug and teacher unprepare Vaush got experiance and thanks for his debate with hunter i was able to see how WEAK my argument really were
I had to go to court years ago for a misdemeanor. I was given a small fine and a few hours of community service. The kid right before me was black, did the same exact crime, and had no priors, but he was put in jail for a month. I always thought that was ridiculous.
For ConservativeHypeHouse, "Innocent until proven guilty" only applies to the system. Not to black people, not to hispanic people being tortured at the border. Sounds like racial bias to me. What does it cost you to acknowledge systemic racism? Edit: Vaush, I'm glad you pointed out his hypocrisy later in the video, I hadn't watched that far yet but obviously already agreed with what you were going to say later.
THIS TIK TOK CHILD IS RLLY TRYING TO TELL SOMEOME WITH A CRIMINAL JUSTICE DEGREE AND MANY OTHERS HOW THESE SYSTEMS WORK AND HOW THINGS GO DOWN IM CRYING 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
this shows how easy it is to be a republican you literally don’t have to do any research and just say anti liberal things and thousands of other conservatives will agree
Remember when he said he hadn't researched the border concentration camps yet AND THEN SPENT THE ENTIRE SECOND HALF OF THE DEBATE MAKING SHIT UP TO DEFEND THE BORDER CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
@ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH Border patrol don't have this authority, it has to be a legal station to declarint asylum because border patrol isnt carrying visas they don't care about asylum seekers.
ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH if possible i'd like you to list your sources/credentials as to how you know the asylum process as well as you do. i can claim to know rocket science but that doesn't automatically mean i do. so i return to my first point, what in your "expert opinion" is the asylum process
The thing is this cultural idea is very prevalent right now on the right and is their most damning quality. They are outright rejecting facts, scientific institutions, and universities. "We don't need the experts" resonates globally.
"They can't come here, they're asylum claims are illegitimate", "their kids would be safer in our concentration camps then in their own countries" 2020 seems like 1984
What got me was how he delegitimized his own weapon argument by claiming that weapons are the deciding factor when if that were the case, it probably would be the other way around and he literally acknowledged that
Yes, in the case of the asylum seekers, he thinks we should ASSUME they are guilty of illegally infiltrating the country. Yet here he is, 17:50 claiming to adhere to "innocent until proven guilty"
“The data is discredited because they didn’t account for how heinous the crime was” Counter argument: “Why are you assuming black people’s crimes are more heinous?”
Yeah surprised vaush didn't mention that honestly. I was yelling the whole time "why do you assume the weapon of choice making it more heinous would suddenly make the massive conviction rate discrepancies make sense?!" It's because he's racist that would be why but asking the question would've been interesting nonetheless.
@ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH having a degree doesn't make you right, but it can definitely help you moreso understand how these studies work. Especially a sociology degree. They're discussing systemic issues, which stem from the society. What do you think sociology is the study of?
I feel like republican shouldn't equal conservatives. Like they're correlated but for instance I'm republican liberal because I feel like we need to move forward as a people but the government should not have any, if at all very little, control of the people.
@@rickysmalldicky2319 but republicans (the big majority at least) seem the ones more happy with authoritarianism, unless they think it'd be a leftwing one. Tbf tho it's easy regardless of sides to not like strict rules when they seem to be favoring your opponent, it's not even a matter of political positions, but that's why around here we like anarchism more (each of us to different lengths), it's a more honest stance
@butch-to-subhuman Libertarians wear makeup that is a little different than Republicans do, their comedy is a little less reliant on pure slapstick, and they don't all drive around in the same tiny car...but they're still clowns. So even if that guy is a libertarian, he's splitting hairs on a curly red wig.
@Joey jay nobody said being liberal made you smart. But generally, the more educated (specifically, educated on scientific and information literacy, which is typically never taught in American primary or secondary school but is the heart of academia and higher education) you are, the more likely you are to lean left. Inability to determine the credibility of information or lacking basic scientific knowledge is very common with the right.
"there HAS to be a reason those people are arrested right? the police wouldn't just round up asylum seekers at the border and throw them in camps for no reason right?!" Oh my sheltered little child
I love how Republicans *always* claim to be so distrustful of the state and so "concerned" about individual rights and freedoms. And then whenever there is well documented, widely verified, easily observable, and consistent evidence that the government is _actually_ doing anything unjust, morally bankrupt, foolhardy, or incredibly wasteful, Republicans are always the first, last, loudest, and proudest to defend the state, especially any part which is excessively large, well funded, independently accountable, secretive, fully armed, and given the power and discretion to enact legal (sometimes extra-legal) violence. They'll put full trust in any narrative, no matter how flimsy or absurd, that there couldn't possibly be an abuse of power happening at the expense of individual liberties, ethical principles, established rule of law, or the sacred text of the US Constitution that was handed down to us by our holy forefathers (hallowed be their names).
He reminds me of those people that were claiming certain forms of sexual assault should be legalized to reduce the statistics on sex crime and protect certain high school atletes some time ago.
@@jackbross I love when I'm arguing with a conservative and I bring up studies that disprove their point, then say "facts don't care about your feelings" it gives me an exhilarating rush of confidence and secondhand embarrasment
Can someone explain why his argument is flawed? If black americans tend to smoke weed in public and white americans tend to smoke weed in their homes then it would be reasonable to assume that cops are more likely to arrest black americans for weed? Is there no data to support that or is this just an assumption he's making?
@@W123-m2o I could have given a little room if he was trying to be more nuanced about culture. For example Police culture being opposed to certain cultures. Because race does have almost nothing to do with people's actions. But there is also the stereotyping that goes into people's heads depending on what they perceive as race which is a part of culture. In the end, he was just getting back to racism from a different philosophy.
@@W123-m2o There are multiple reasons to be suspicious of what he said. (1) On its face, this claim sounds dubious especially how the conservative person couldn't/didn't provide a source. (2) Are black people really smoking weed outside of their homes and white people are smoking inside, or are black people just caught outside with weed in their possession (e.g. a baggie in their pocket)? If its the latter, then with laws like Stop-And-Frisk, the cops are just going to find weed on black people more often because they are stopping black people more often.
@@W123-m2o his argument is flawed, because when asked for data to prove his assertion that black people smoke more outdoor, and white people smoke indoor, he dodges and bails on this argument. Such an extraordinary claim NEEDS extraordinary evidence.
A lot of fascists who come to debate Vaush start off with "don’t worry, I’m not like this *insert random fascist figure* guy, I am totally reasonable" and then it turns out they totally are like that guy or even worse.
thats because youtube conservatives are all NPCs who recycle the same talking points across their channels. so one might say they dont follow ben shapiro but instead follow youtube conservative X Y or Z but at the end it doesnt matter because all their arguments are carbon copied void of any depth, nuance, or critical thinking. Thats why when debating right wingers all you really need to do is find talking point counters to their current arguments they are recycling and if you do, they are left speechless because they have no capability of thinking one step ahead.
J Cruisinelli this is what happened when cocky uninformed teenage “conservatives” debate even more uninformed teenage liberals they think they can win a debate against yam actually educated person
Vaush is educated. He's not like a grad or doctorate educated person, but he's trained with a bachelor's in his field and has spent a lot of time research and talking about these topics.
The most hilarious thing is after this debate he made a TikTok saying people who say systematic racism is real are dumb and all his comments were you got destroyed by vaush
It's really sad. He seems determined never to change his mind no matter how demonstrably wrong he is. A fascist in the making. If fascism ever does claim the US, he'll be one of the supporters. Hell, he might even be among those who wield the guns.
people with a brain: “a government source has proven that the government is racist” this dude:”haha okayy liberal stop telling me your biased opinions”
Anthony Bullaro did...did you not watch the video? they don’t even get a chance to come legally because they get put in cages BEFORE they can go through the legal procedures.
ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH i’ll link u an article, asylum seekers CAN declare asylum in the US once they are anywhere in the border. if ICE is grabbing immigrants before they can declare asylum, how are they supposed to do it “legally”?
That’s because “Facts over Feelings” is literally their only argument. Conservative you tubers never actually present evidence other than the occasional out of context statistics
Identifying something as more morally incorrect than something else is not soley based on feeling, ence why debates on morality and ethnics are able to be so logical and not full of fallacious appeals, same applies to political debates...now of course the one proposing something as bad needs to come up with a good argument for it
this guy: so you’re saying we’re just unjustly imprisoning people? vaush: yes. yes, and that’s why we’re being criticized. this guy: _laughing_ there’s NO WAY we’re doing that hahah unbelievably stubborn and infuriating to watch
"Have we controlled for everything they ate and drank for 24 hours before drinking the bleach? If we didn't do that, how would we know it was the bleach, and not something else that they all ate/drank?"
Well, you can’t expect anything less then Asian hating, South American hating, black hating, ignorant idiots that think white people are the best and America is white people country everyone else is second.
I was totally blown away He legitimately said he was against asylum seekers and then continued to argue later that we should take children from their families, TECHNICALLY AS ASYLUM SEEKERS, but only because he unironically believes concentration camps are better than South American nations Wtf
“systematic racism doesn’t exist and here is my racist reasoning for thinking that”
"Systemic racism doesn't exist because I assume that everything the US government does it does for good reasons."
Powersd451 “except when it doesn’t do good things that affect me and my racist rhetoric, personally, that’s when I pull out my biggest trump card, my gun😎”
@@Anonymous-wp7lm Just denying the facts is harmful enough.
Anon ymous constantly reffering to black communities and culture as the ghetto is kinda sus... plus, as the comment above me said, denying systematic racism is harmful!
Look at all these 14yr Olds trying so desperately to pretend they know what's up. Adorable.
"I wasn't aware of that"
"I didn't look into that"
"I don't have the data"
Yeah bro. We know.
man really watched one shapiro video and was like “yeah i could debate vaush” lmao
Seriously, I think this is the worst debate I've ever watched. The chh just denied data based off of emotion based arguments.
ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH what?
@ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH vaush fan spotted. With 48 comments I imagine you're bringing in quite a bit of his income
Godzilla... good tastes.
lmao this dude called him a RADICAL LEFT because he’s ANTI-RACIST LMAO bro
"I'm not racist."
-"Well, that's your *radical opinion."*
🤣
TheMrVengeance LMAO right??? wtf so it’s radical to be anti racist????
TheMrVengeance wait I had to come back and reread this to get it OMFG my b
Actually Vaush is anarchist from what I know. But Conservatice hype house didn’t know that and called him radical anyways.
@@moonori4595 I know but I just think it's funny how some people believe that being anti-racist is radical when it's not.
I actually smoke weed in a very heinous way, you'd actually be surprised at how heinously I smoke weed.
show me your ways
I bet you chop up bodies too
teach us the way of the Heinous Weed
Honoured to be the 420th like :)
@Troll Bait do you have friends, troll bait? do you? lmao
This kid talked himself in circles, got confused, and then got upset about it
absolutely. He doesn't even realize he's a bad guy. He literally thinks he's a good person.
Orcservative is confused; he hurt himself in battle. It's super effective!
nerd Surfer which one of them TikTokers was he, they all blend together on that account
He hurt himself in his confusion
@nerd Surfer who?
he basically said all black people know is be ghetto, drive bad, and smoke weed
And that America can break national laws just because we’re our own nation🤦🏽♂️
Who Vaush?
@@amiranurse7956 no, the guy vaush is debating
Even if we did, it wouldn't justify us being systematically disfranchised
Eat hot chip, charge they phone, and lie
These poor Trump loving kids don’t know what they’re talking about. The secondhand embarrassment is almost incapacitating.
this is true brainwashing. they can’t support their racist bias without using non-legitimate evidence and want to make complete assumptions just to support their racist ideaology but can’t even back that! it’s a cycle of backpedaling and false claims to promote a harmful ideaology.
Truly.
Talked to a person yesterday said they believe its okay for a position of power to act on there opinions and said person should not be punished for those actions
sunny pannu yeah they also think that’s it’s okay to deny people basic human rights when they are poor. it’s the consequence of capitalism that has engrained the idea that there MUST be a hierarchy of class, race and power, basically all of them being connected. it’s horrible
my favorite past time is going to ben shapiros videos and finding the people who say liberals don't have facts and then i bullet point about ten facts that disprove them and give them the source so they can educate themselves, its a livelihood
"Radical Left": accept science and have a empathy
I wish I could like the comment multiple times.
@@skippityblippity8656 do you oppose gay marriage because it should only be between a man and a woman like abortion should be for men to decide what they wanna do with their objects bodies because women must walk behind the man?
I'm just commenting here to put a bookmark in this comment, I want to see where this debate goes.
@@sweetjamyams7281 99% of conservatives disagree with both of those statements
And murder landlords lol
this kid won a couple debates at his school againt the liberal white girl and suddenly thought he was Einstein
That's why he's so popular on tiktok, because it's a bunch of uninformed teens.
I bet he didn’t win those, he just convinced himself he did
Nemo Windsor well it’s difficult to win against someone who A- doesn’t think he’s beaten. And B- ignores evidence and counters evidence with “but I think”. The stupid are the hardest to debate.
(+Darren Murray) “It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument against a stupid person.” -Bill Murray
@@nemowindsor8724 oh, so he uses the Ben Shapiro tactic.
The Republican be like:
Source(s):
Dude just trust me
LMFAO DEADASS
Why do all the lefties do this though?
@Cat Suppository Someone tried telling me that he didn't have the research done. I started fact-checking Vaush and he came out clean.
It's a shame that whenever I watch Vaush, I get a load of conservative ads. I haven't seen one Trump VS MN ad in a few weeks, and I love those ads.
@Andrew Barnett I wouldn't say they are full of retards, not as much so as people who think politics don't affect them.
I just think their heavily misinformed in a way that they think if they believe anything a leftist does then their "sleeping with the idiots" but the more fascist they get they thin they are "woke"
@@xasddasdgdfsdfgghj sources cnn?
The worst part is this guy probably considers himself a rational person who respects the facts. But in reality he just dismisses any fact he doesn't like as a knee jerk response.
Charles Okonkwo “I haven’t looked into that but I definitely know all about this study, I don’t have data tho”
summer of roses “I didn’t look at the study but I heard about it and I have a feeling since it doesn’t prove my point, they left out variables”
ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH explain how
ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH um what are u talking about? Vaush’a entire argument was that when Asylum seekers go into custody at the border, they are then detained and sent to prisons that mimic the conditions present in concentration camps as they go through deportation proceedings, even though those who enter the country looking for asylum are held to a higher legal standard than illegal immigrants
ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH Asylum Seekers need to declare Asylum at a legal center, but if they are detained at the border before they get that chance, then they will be sent to a deportation center (basically concentration camps)
"Have you ever conducted a study?"
"Yes, I have a degree."
*tries to tell you how to conduct a study anyway*
It's one of the first things I learned in sociology xD
this comment is made of gold
he was already fully committed
@@witchflowers6942 You can really tell he was priming to make an appeal to authority if Vaush said no.
It's how every "have I told you about the time...." statement ends.
bruh this wasn't even a debate, vaush literally just had to sit there and explain super basic concepts and facts to this guy like he's in second grade
I find that most of his debates are this way but some people are better at gish galloping than others.
It's better that he knows than doesn't. Misinformation is a dangerous tool, equiped by the minds of naive people. The damage isn't always reversible, but it's always better to try what you can to lead them to factual information.
Ding ding weong vaush is like all other liberals.or lefties no facts just emotions an hate fools
Charlene Shivers bro that guy got blown out, it wasn’t even a debate lmao
Nathan Bausinger she's is probably a conservative, of course, he would say he lost 😂
Using the phrase "ghetto areas" in an argument immediately destroys your credibility.
Daniel Scanlon Exactly.
and when he said “blacks” RETCH
He had credibility in the first place ?
wait is this referring to vaush or chh?
Rishi2379 conservative hype house. Vaush used the same rhetoric that chh used in his argument.
if there’s one thing worse than republicans... it’s the ones on *TIKTOK*
damn boi way too many
damn boi Nickvideos, Lancevideos are two big ones. He is debating Nick tomorrow (who is an idiot, but less idiotic then lance.) The kid Lance is the biggest radical idiot ive seen.
@@cosmickisses1995 vaush is debating nick on the 26th
@@cosmickisses1995 I can kinda see nickvideos being moved a little bit to the left in the future since some of his views got changed after debating people but that lance is just a lost cause.
Tik tok conservatives are the worst. There’s this one page called the « common sense » hype house that just spews out conservative talking points.
I love to hear conservative white teens act like they know anything about my life and my experiences.
I honestly didn’t expect all these likes and comments i just was speaking from my personal experience
Sadly I used to be one of those conservative white teens
@@Camhart15 the upside is now you know all the bullshit points conservatives make, but a lot of work needs to be done to teach people we know that this shits barbaric.
@@solly23k true
@@Camhart15 you know what. Character development is one of the best things you can go through, so good job getting out of the alt right pipeline
@@Fengsuave_ thx I was never really alt right tho just far right
I’m 12 minutes in and this Republican has contradicted himself 8 times
frrr
That over 2 Sargons!
Frr
Karely Rodriguez he says statistical like 20 times per sentence to stall vaush and give him more time to come up with some bullshit to spew
Yer he’s disappointing, he should have a better ratio, like 1 contradiction a minute .
He says “I am not racist”, but then uses his racist ideologies to try and explain how racism doesn’t exist
@Ariel Levinson No one says race doesn't exist, just that most of it is based off of social constructs, the fact that "white" is a race nowadays is fucking hilarious
Ariel Levinson terrible analogy
Ariel Levinson what?? No one is saying race doesn’t exist we’re saying you shouldn’t be racist and you shouldn’t be killed because assumptions based off you’re race
This kid has obviously never met any black people in his life, and has only seen them on tv shows and in movies. The rest of his info on them comes from his racist relatives and four Chan.
Ariel Levinson You’re like stupidity personified
a lot of words for “i am racist”
right like just admit it and go💀
@@wrok3 No, he is just racist. Even if he genuinly believes he isn't and blames culture, he still is. Did you miss the entirety of him justifying concentration camps at the border?
@@wrok3 where did you get that statistic from? By the way half my family is South American, so what is this "worse culture" exactly?
"I don't think they are stupid, just more prone to smoke in public!" and "Do we really need evidence for human interraction?" are the big 'memes'.
@@wrok3 could you explain your viewpoint in more detail? Because it sounds an awful lot like racism with extra steps and I'd hate to just assume you're a racist trying to fly under the radar.
Removing a uterus without consent is torture.
Actually, it's worse than that, it's actually genocide. Removing reproductive ability from the targeted group.
@@MaxGlycine89 actually it’s worse than that, it’s eugenics.
@Adinda Fathira Fasya no, actually, it’s worse than that.
@@epistemologyphilosophy7791 no, though, its much worse than rhat.
@Adinda Fathira Fasya im not sure. I think its worse than that.
Guys please stop saying this kid is racist I can’t like EVERY comment
hes the type of racist that doesnt know it
Eh hes just brainwashed, at least hes not a grifter
@@adamsmith1573 he would be if someone offered.
this comment deserves more love😭
you had me in the first half not gonna lie
I'm pro-life but also I support separating kids from their parents and putting them in foster care- ConservativeHypeHouse
That's the "party of family values" for you.
@@SoSoKayla i love watching this but its so cringy. i just hate how cringy it is
Jefferson Ratliff oh and i also support the death penalty bc we only care about unborn babies in the womb
Janus gahr støre the fact that you were once for MANDATORY abortion speaks volumes about your character
theyre so smart.... not
"i come from a radical position of not being a racist". - Vaush
Tbh in 2020 it is pretty much radical if your not racist its crazy
joe Fairs it’s actually pretty radical not to be a fascist these days
ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH he is a white person what do you mean
@ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH Mkay...so apparently defending oppressed groups such as POC is despising white people? Sounds like something a racist would say...
Since when are black and brown people a part of the LGBTQ+ community? (Not saying that they can't be)
"Shit Comrades, I forgot to consider fascism."
- Karl Marx on his deathbed.
😂💀
💀💀💀
It really pisses me off how much he calls black communities “ghettos.”
His racist side is showing ✨💫
Same!!
Like, I’m black and live in a suburb with other black people thankyouverymuch
Clearly he's never been to Atlanta 😑
It made my skin crawl.
Oh god. Not the tiktok republicans
those are some of the worst
they literally are 16 & don’t know what they’re talking about.
@@biancasierra5001 ikr i think any random internet socialist could stomp one when they had 0 hours of sleep for 2 days and did some drugs just a bit before
@@tyl2322 I volunteer as tribute.
Do the floss with MAGA hat
this guy watched one “how to debate like Ben Shapiro” video and thinks he’s all that.
When he started talking about culture I started laughing
@@martysmarts4494 yesss i watched that ben shapiro video like two years ago and immediately when the kid said that i knew he was just stealing the same damn soundbites from benny boy, word for word. and i found it even more amusing when he was backpedalling and trying not look like a ben shapiro fanboy by saying that he doesnt watch him or steven crowder. hilarious.
Marty Smarts seems like the only line he remembered
Yet he’s more likeable and tolerable than Ben Shapiro is
Charisma on command?
The second a conservative starts laughing, you know you’ve won
So true. Thats shows that they didnt think that far when building their opinion. The other day a republican called blm a terrorist organzisation (not directly), he wrote the organization that riots, murders and blablabla and i called him out for not applying the concept of terrorism to the police or army when they do exaclty the same at an even larger extent. They literally havent reflected to that point. So the laughing is defintely always an indicator to when an republican cant further process things because the propaganda they ve been fed isnt applicable/logical even more. Happens everytime you call them out😂😂
Pretending to laugh*
The line between conservatism and fascism got destroyed in this debate.
Ferris Bueller your comment will never be understood after the edit. But I will remember.
@@klip8726 I would also like an explanation.
@@klip8726 nevermind, I just realized that you definitely just originally used the word space instead of line.
@wowzers eegads Replace "line" in the original comment with "space". Get it? The safe "space". In this context it's "line"
There was supposed to be a line between conservatism and fascism?
‘Have you done any studies?” “Yes I have a degree” that was the finisher right there💀
he should have just left after that line
Infinity Salinity I think a sociology degree is very relevant to this debate, considering it’s the study of social problems. The sociology of racism, prejudice, ethnicity etc. So what’s your degree? :)
@@infinitysalinity7981 You use laughing emojis, why even bother.
@@infinitysalinity7981 A sociology degree actually prepares people to work in fields like education, research, journalism, statistics, and government. As well as it can lead to further education in anthropology, political science, linguistics, and psychology.
Its a VERY good degree in terms of employability and education. Just because you don't like the guy who has the degree it doesn't mean it's useless. People who have them are much more employable than people like you. Especially making a broad and generalizing statement such as that.
@@infinitysalinity7981 I'm sorry are you dumb? That might be the most useful degree in this type of debate. Education isn't suddenly fake and useless when you say it is.
ConservativeHypeHouse is probably thinking about what he should have said in the shower.
THIS SENT ME
**they
AHHAHA YES
What’s this kids name?
"Fuck! I should have said, 'You know what I mean,' a dozen times more than I did."
What do you think they are? "Black Supremacist's"? Hahaha: Awesome. I'm not sure how I stumbled upon your channel, I'm a 45 year old woman and mother of a 14 year old. I'm glad I did though, you give me hope :)
welcome to the club enjoy your stay :)
I’m a mom of teens too. I’m learning a lot about the youth culture, and I’m heartened by what I see. I think my oldest might like Vaush’s style. I’ll subtly recommend it to him. Maybe he can watch this as “social studies homework.”
@@abigailsmith6977 i turned 18 recently and guys like vush and parents like you give me hope that things may be able to change for the better and everyone like him is doing awesome work they know how to debate and get there point across well along with just being fun to watch and they are just countering the large amount of right wing alt right stuff on here i watch them from to to time just to try to counter them as well and try to prove that they may not be as good as some think they are but it is hard work and vush knows how these guys work so he does far better than me and you are doing awesome work by showing this to your kids after all he may get them involved in politics like he has with me and due to that i have also made some of my best friends
Wholesome
Super wholesome. The radical zoomer comrades really are cool as hell.
This whole thing felt like Vaush explaining racism to a child
The Color Of Friendship type beat
he kinda was lmao
well... it is
Is that not what it was? XD
Then calling the child a racist. Can't wait for him to teach my kids.
Conservatives: It's bad to break the law, but when the US does it it's actually a good thing.
@Spartan 506 Saying "I don't like this law" won't fly in court mate.
Laws exist, and societies are expected to adhere to them.
My point is that the US is hypocritical. They will condemn any terrorist attacks on US soil but will ignore, brush over or lie about atrocities their military commit overseas. Sometimes they will even try to paint civilian deaths in other countries in a positive light. "Look at how brave our soldiers are, putting themselves at risk." kind of thing.
Warhammered theres a law called the “american servicemember protection act” from the bush era which allows the states to use any means necessary to prevent any servicemember from prosecution by the ICJ and ICC
@@YassinePineapple That's fucked up. No wonder everybody is starting to hate america more and more.
I was thinking of incidents like the Blackwater mercenaries firing into civilian cars with 50 cals and M4s. Then Fox News tries to paint the men being investigated as simply misunderstood and "unsung heroes".
Americas fetishism of the military is just cult like and quite disturbing.
Spartan 506 bruh the “most power nation” is China, we have noticed during COVID they’re a fucking powerhouse
Warhammered plus, you are aware the USA can be I don’t like this law, I’m not gonna follow it, you can’t say that AFTER you agree to follow it
I used to be a Ben Shapiro kid. Thank god I have a brain and educated myself.
wow just noticed this blew up, but glad to know so many people are in the same boat.
Same
Character development is important
Me too! I still listen to his points but I'm over the far right wing bullshit
i’m so sorry for all the lost brain cells 😫 congrats on getting out of that mindset
Ohhhhhhh that is so amazing to hear!!! I just learned who that guy was a week ago and he is just a pathological liar that is brainwashing his viewers into believing his fake news agenda!!! How old were you when you were into Shapiro?
This kid has literally no arguments other than the fact he's decided to be a republican
“systemic racism isn’t real” i let out an audible cringe
What did it sound like
AiiCii “HHHHHHHHHHHHHH”
It’s not
Imagine being so sociologically and historically illiterate.
@@whatever3563 ok lmao
Conservative: “innocent till proven guilty”
Also him: “do you really believe they’re asylum seekers and don’t have any other implications”
Progressive: “innocent till proven guilty”
Also progressives: this random girl on the internet said she was raped. Let’s go doc that guy and ruin his career over no evidence!
@@ingrampile2188 it's the government's job to abide by innocent until proven guilty, whereas public opinion can side with whomever the fuck they want. If a friend or family member told you that someone raped/sexually assaulted them, would you say "prove it first, until then I'll keep hangingout with your possible rapist" or "oh my god that's awful, i never want to speak to that guy again"?? Hopefully the fucking second one.
I'll side with potential victims, because rape/sexual assault is a horrible, traumatizing event and if there's even a possibility they went through that, I wouldn't want to further their pain.
Of course you shouldn't be able to send someone to prison without any evidence, but that's not what the whole "believe women" movement is advocating for.
@Cat Suppository I'm very glad I've never heard a full "men can't be raped" argument. I like facts and honest social movements, not misinformation and fascists.
mans laughs every time his racist ideals are proven incorrect and thinks he’s winning😐
angel yangツ hey recently one of my dogs went missing, I was curious to know if you’d have any answers
Whaler Sailor basic like your music taste lmao
Whaler Sailor not funny, didn’t laugh filthy redditor.
Whaler Sailor it’s the racism for me..
Whaler Sailor no need to be racist damn
My bigot biological father and his other racist high school friends all went into the police force. My dad didn’t make it in because he didn’t pass the psychological evaluation, which is very telling. He’s also a felon now. It’s a small rural town you can get away with almost anything, the amount of times my fathers police buddies got him out of trouble when he should’ve faced charges is ridiculous. First hand experience on how bigots and white supremacists alike HAVE infiltrated the system, it’s more than common in rural towns. It goes deeper than that too.
That’s tough, man. Thank you for sharing this and I appreciate your support.
My condolences. I hope you can extricate yourself from that toxic situation.
How deep is we talking? And if it's hard to catch a charge, what kinda shit was he into?
@Boston Towny4life
As the dad was literally too unstable for the *police force* and is also a felon, I’m going to guess he didn’t exactly treat his kid wonderfully lol
half of this video is "i- i- i- i- i- iiiii thi-thi-thi-nk-think- think" and "its-its- it-s- its- its-- no- no- not- not"
"we- wel- we-" like majority of his "points" were all stuttered and clumped together.
34:37 heard that while reading this lmao
cherryade fountain no it rlly isnt he doesnt have an actual stutter
*insert random ass laughing*
I'm always so surprised how funny Vaush's comment sections are.
“Smokes weed heinously”
Made me lol take my like
destroys western civilization by existing heinously
/s
*exists heinously*
the mood every day
Commits tax fraud heinously
Ahhh tik tok Republicans. 16 year old teens that research for 4 minutes and think they are the next Ronald Reagan
Imagine even THINKING that you could or SHOULD be the next Ronald Reagan.
BuT mY rIgHtS?!
LMAO
It’s hilarious that this kid claimed he had a degree too 🤣😂
They are the next Reagan because they are just as uneducated as he was
why tf were teenagers trying to debate against an adult with a degree in the field they're debating about?? like dude calm down, go finish ur essay for english
@@jojobobee8777 true
I was able to ,,own" my teacher in high shool not becouse i have make good arguments but just becouse i was smug and teacher unprepare
Vaush got experiance and thanks for his debate with hunter i was able to see how WEAK my argument really were
I had to go to court years ago for a misdemeanor. I was given a small fine and a few hours of community service. The kid right before me was black, did the same exact crime, and had no priors, but he was put in jail for a month. I always thought that was ridiculous.
Thank you for this statement. This happens to often
Where the hell do you live??
Same happened with my father. On Marijuana possession.
Inappropriate, Unprofessional, and Problematic America
He was probably wearing a hat
Vaush absolutely bodied this kid, like its actually humiliating for this kid
Can we not copy self-righteous anti-SJW rhetoric? It makes me feel yikes.
Rocco Anders hes literally a racist lmfao he can get bodied
Rocco Anders lmao bodied being “anti-Sjw” rhetoric
For ConservativeHypeHouse, "Innocent until proven guilty" only applies to the system. Not to black people, not to hispanic people being tortured at the border.
Sounds like racial bias to me.
What does it cost you to acknowledge systemic racism?
Edit: Vaush, I'm glad you pointed out his hypocrisy later in the video, I hadn't watched that far yet but obviously already agreed with what you were going to say later.
yes
Yass, reminds me of that aLL bUILdiNGs mATteR op ed
Conservatives: These snowflakes get triggered when I call them slurs
Also conservatives: *sees a POC* omg they're replacing us
“Yes I have a degree.” “Everything you’re about to say is wrong.” VAUSH EJEVEHAVWIHEOSHRHF
THAT TOOK ME OUT
this kid really did ask a guy with a degree in sociology if he’d ever performed a study.... yikes
THIS TIK TOK CHILD IS RLLY TRYING TO TELL SOMEOME WITH A CRIMINAL JUSTICE DEGREE AND MANY OTHERS HOW THESE SYSTEMS WORK AND HOW THINGS GO DOWN IM CRYING 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Actually, it's a Sociology degree.
@@MrRogerogerio my bad dude LMAO
It's Bradley but he did take a ton of criminal justice courses while in college
It's Bradley he definitely sucks some boots
💀💀💀
he’s just being racist but watered down
diet racism
Discount racism, he got his ish from Walmart
racism lite
His arguments are “I think” and “I think I read it somewhere”
not even watered down it’s like Diet Coke, they say it’s better for u, but it’s much worse
this was the first vaush debate i ever watched,
i was a right leaning lib at the time,
now i'm a leftie
thanks for the radicalization guys 😎👍
Welcome comrade
thats based, comrade. welcome.
Welcome aboard! We have cookies!
*Weed cookies*
Welcome to the club.
based. welcome, comrade.
conservetavieshypehouses source be like: DUDE JUST TRUST ME!!
this shows how easy it is to be a republican you literally don’t have to do any research and just say anti liberal things and thousands of other conservatives will agree
cam bone works the other way around too. For example, vaccine bad? Liberal karens will be at your doorstep applauding you for your 'research'.
Noblebork most of the people who are “karen’s” or anti vax are conservatives lmaoo
RaulFAlaniz like i said most of them are conservative lmaoo i’ve actually seen a lot of those vids
Remember when he said he hadn't researched the border concentration camps yet AND THEN SPENT THE ENTIRE SECOND HALF OF THE DEBATE MAKING SHIT UP TO DEFEND THE BORDER CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
@@anjalialaniz it'd be more of an argument if your didn't resort to ad hominems at the end
the conservative should have just left the call. hes embarrassing.
honestly it’s so stressful listening to how ignorant he is
he definitely realized his doom and faked having to leave LOL
I feel kinda bad for him. I believed some weird stuff when I was 12 too.
Their arguments are always "your studies are wrong" and never "my studies are right". Where are their studies?
“Trust me bro I’ve seen the real world”
Hold on, I think I have one
Never mind, the folder's still empty.
@@kevray “Think about human nature”
what if we smoked weed heinously in the black culture car?
Ashley Lynn can i join
what if our hands brushed as we reached for the bong?
Ashley Lynn consider it done😌
420th like!
Haha just kidding.....
...unless?
this kid sounded so blinded by his ignorance that he doesn't understand what is going on outside of his perfect, safe and privileged world
@ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH *You don't know US immigration law
@ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH Border patrol don't have this authority, it has to be a legal station to declarint asylum because border patrol isnt carrying visas they don't care about asylum seekers.
ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH if possible i'd like you to list your sources/credentials as to how you know the asylum process as well as you do. i can claim to know rocket science but that doesn't automatically mean i do. so i return to my first point, what in your "expert opinion" is the asylum process
@ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH why do u keep commenting this everywhere like u keep getting roasted bruh
@ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH
"im not owned! im not owned!!", i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob
“are you like an unironic anti-intellectual?” LMFAOOOO
He's the SOA type!
BUT IT HURTS MY FEELINS
Sad part is, it is exactly that :/
BUT ITS INCONVENIENT FOR HIM LMAOO
The thing is this cultural idea is very prevalent right now on the right and is their most damning quality. They are outright rejecting facts, scientific institutions, and universities. "We don't need the experts" resonates globally.
"They can't come here, they're asylum claims are illegitimate", "their kids would be safer in our concentration camps then in their own countries"
2020 seems like 1984
What got me was how he delegitimized his own weapon argument by claiming that weapons are the deciding factor when if that were the case, it probably would be the other way around and he literally acknowledged that
This is so sad. This is someone clinging by the skin of his fingernails to their political ideology in the face of facts and logic
*FACTS and LOGIC
True. And the sad part is, if he manages to cling on to his ideology in spite of everything, he WILL become a supporter of fascism eventually.
“Smoked weed in a more heinous way”
@@chrisstoltz3648 Or what hats they were wearing
*menacingly smokes weed outside during the live debate*
I don't always smoke, but when I do, I do it in a very heinous manner 😎
They smoke outside in the shadows while twirling their mustaches and cackling.
Smoking weed, posing, and having those menacing Jojo symbols flutter above your head.
I can’t believe he tried justifying the camps. He is the literal definition of a subtle racist.
I wouldent call it subtle
Lets deport the parents but keep the kids, that's the humane thing to do
I wouldn't call you Kevin.
Which part was subtle?
Yes, in the case of the asylum seekers, he thinks we should ASSUME they are guilty of illegally infiltrating the country. Yet here he is, 17:50 claiming to adhere to "innocent until proven guilty"
“The data is discredited because they didn’t account for how heinous the crime was”
Counter argument: “Why are you assuming black people’s crimes are more heinous?”
"well they must be because theyre incarcerated more."
Yeah surprised vaush didn't mention that honestly. I was yelling the whole time "why do you assume the weapon of choice making it more heinous would suddenly make the massive conviction rate discrepancies make sense?!" It's because he's racist that would be why but asking the question would've been interesting nonetheless.
what if we kissed in the black culture car? 😳
With that face ofc
Depends are the rims rolling even when we are stopped ? 😳
😳
Jk jk.... unless?
i would very much like that
At least he didn’t just use the classic, “Obama was president,” line.
God those are the worst
yup. it’s like everything trump does somehow has something to do with obama
Imagine if he used the "guess which party freed the slaves?" Line lmao
If he did say that, Vaush would have just responded with “yeah that’s Obama’s fault too, doesn’t excuse Trump continuing it”
True, but even without that, it was still frustrating as FUCK
"YES I HAVE A DEGREE" VAUSH YOU'RE MURDERING HIM LMFAOO
i love to see it
@ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH yet he was discredited and destroyed by real researchers
@ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCHdiscord.gg/XdaQZN
@ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH having a degree doesn't make you right, but it can definitely help you moreso understand how these studies work.
Especially a sociology degree. They're discussing systemic issues, which stem from the society. What do you think sociology is the study of?
@ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH i don't run the discord bro
This is the leftist equivalent of Ben Shapiro debating random college students and it is amazing.
I always wondered how right-wing people felt when watching one of those, don’t have to now!
Now I can understand what the right feel seeing ben shapiro destroying some liberals and leftists.
Not really since Vaush doesn't have media training and actually let's his opponents talk.
Tiktok Republicans are clowns
I feel like republican shouldn't equal conservatives. Like they're correlated but for instance I'm republican liberal because I feel like we need to move forward as a people but the government should not have any, if at all very little, control of the people.
@@rickysmalldicky2319 but republicans (the big majority at least) seem the ones more happy with authoritarianism, unless they think it'd be a leftwing one. Tbf tho it's easy regardless of sides to not like strict rules when they seem to be favoring your opponent, it's not even a matter of political positions, but that's why around here we like anarchism more (each of us to different lengths), it's a more honest stance
Republicans are clowns*
Fixed it for ya
@butch-to-subhuman Libertarians wear makeup that is a little different than Republicans do, their comedy is a little less reliant on pure slapstick, and they don't all drive around in the same tiny car...but they're still clowns. So even if that guy is a libertarian, he's splitting hairs on a curly red wig.
Correction: Republicans are clowns
“Academia is more left leaning. I wonder why” JESUS
I would say it's more libright because they don't teach you how to do your taxes.
Noblebork well it’s run by lib righters but everyone in it is a lefty
Because education in general is a left leaning. Ignorance is is right leaning.
@Joseph Gutierrez did you go to college?
@Joey jay nobody said being liberal made you smart. But generally, the more educated (specifically, educated on scientific and information literacy, which is typically never taught in American primary or secondary school but is the heart of academia and higher education) you are, the more likely you are to lean left. Inability to determine the credibility of information or lacking basic scientific knowledge is very common with the right.
"there HAS to be a reason those people are arrested right? the police wouldn't just round up asylum seekers at the border and throw them in camps for no reason right?!"
Oh my sheltered little child
Or as the Southerners say, "Bless his heart".
The sweet little lamb
He was so close to getting it there
@@will_1996 selfawarewolves
I love how Republicans *always* claim to be so distrustful of the state and so "concerned" about individual rights and freedoms. And then whenever there is well documented, widely verified, easily observable, and consistent evidence that the government is _actually_ doing anything unjust, morally bankrupt, foolhardy, or incredibly wasteful, Republicans are always the first, last, loudest, and proudest to defend the state, especially any part which is excessively large, well funded, independently accountable, secretive, fully armed, and given the power and discretion to enact legal (sometimes extra-legal) violence. They'll put full trust in any narrative, no matter how flimsy or absurd, that there couldn't possibly be an abuse of power happening at the expense of individual liberties, ethical principles, established rule of law, or the sacred text of the US Constitution that was handed down to us by our holy forefathers (hallowed be their names).
"We're just holding them in cages with hand sanitizer and TVs"
Hmmmm swimming pool and orchestra, too, I bet.
Nice pfp lol
This was the definition of "Someone's getting murdered? No, that's impossible - that's illegal."
i wish this had one more like when i saw it so it would be 69
Saber you’re welcome
He reminds me of those people that were claiming certain forms of sexual assault should be legalized to reduce the statistics on sex crime and protect certain high school atletes some time ago.
As a black person, I have to say that I've never found a stranger in a public area or anywhere to smoke with.
Then they'll say "We're not talking about the individuals" and not see the irony.
If it weren't for covid, I'd be down.
Yeah, sure...
As a white person, I have smoked in public areas with strangers plenty of times. Never had a problem with police about it lol
As a fellow black person, I may be the stranger in a public area or anywhere to smoke with you need.
“Academia is very left leaning, I wonder why” YES LMFAOAAO
I guess the facts have a leftist bias, probably why conservatives always argue from feelings.
Deadass and every time ben Shapiro says facts don’t care about feelings I’m just like.... yes king go give us the delusional deluxe ✨
@@jackbross I love when I'm arguing with a conservative and I bring up studies that disprove their point, then say "facts don't care about your feelings" it gives me an exhilarating rush of confidence and secondhand embarrasment
Spartan 506 but if your point has no facts to back it up then it’s invalidated...
Spartan 506 fair enough, but in this debate the facts are on Vaush’s side.
This kid doesn't need to debate, he just needs to figure out why he wants these ideas to be true, so so much.
This kids whole argument was “Let’s just break the law so there’s a 0% chance that anyone else can break the law”
That's basically how American foreign policy works.
Can someone explain why his argument is flawed? If black americans tend to smoke weed in public and white americans tend to smoke weed in their homes then it would be reasonable to assume that cops are more likely to arrest black americans for weed? Is there no data to support that or is this just an assumption he's making?
@@W123-m2o I could have given a little room if he was trying to be more nuanced about culture. For example Police culture being opposed to certain cultures. Because race does have almost nothing to do with people's actions. But there is also the stereotyping that goes into people's heads depending on what they perceive as race which is a part of culture. In the end, he was just getting back to racism from a different philosophy.
@@W123-m2o There are multiple reasons to be suspicious of what he said. (1) On its face, this claim sounds dubious especially how the conservative person couldn't/didn't provide a source. (2) Are black people really smoking weed outside of their homes and white people are smoking inside, or are black people just caught outside with weed in their possession (e.g. a baggie in their pocket)? If its the latter, then with laws like Stop-And-Frisk, the cops are just going to find weed on black people more often because they are stopping black people more often.
@@W123-m2o his argument is flawed, because when asked for data to prove his assertion that black people smoke more outdoor, and white people smoke indoor, he dodges and bails on this argument. Such an extraordinary claim NEEDS extraordinary evidence.
He literally argues with vaush like a stubborn child argues with a parent
DYSTERi0US DANi except for child would already be in trouble when he kept interrupting
He laughs as a coping mechanism because he knows what he's saying is wrong
“I’m not a Ben Shapiro thumper”....... starts off the debate with the same argument Ben Shapiro uses.
Kinda brings into question his lack of adherence to that other white supremacist he mentioned, huh?
A lot of fascists who come to debate Vaush start off with "don’t worry, I’m not like this *insert random fascist figure* guy, I am totally reasonable" and then it turns out they totally are like that guy or even worse.
He does follow his ideology.
thats because youtube conservatives are all NPCs who recycle the same talking points across their channels. so one might say they dont follow ben shapiro but instead follow youtube conservative X Y or Z but at the end it doesnt matter because all their arguments are carbon copied void of any depth, nuance, or critical thinking. Thats why when debating right wingers all you really need to do is find talking point counters to their current arguments they are recycling and if you do, they are left speechless because they have no capability of thinking one step ahead.
Ben "anti semitism is the only problem because it affects me" Shapiro
This guy calling black people "blacks" already a red flag
Let’s be honest, the guy had no idea what he was doing and when he knew he was wrong he tried to cut off Vaush
J Cruisinelli this is what happened when cocky uninformed teenage “conservatives” debate even more uninformed teenage liberals they think they can win a debate against yam actually educated person
A Very Average Person 101 did you just unironically call vaush educated
Vaush is educated. He's not like a grad or doctorate educated person, but he's trained with a bachelor's in his field and has spent a lot of time research and talking about these topics.
Bruh, I could do this. Where’s my Koch bros. check? I’m in!
@@mileshill7196 Koch Bro*
"Im not a ben shapiro thumper" his first argument was one of ben Shapiro's lmao
Word for word too
Shamona Fightklub as soon as he said it Has nothing to do with race and everything to do with culture is 🤦🏿♀️
EXACTLY!!!
@@steveissketchy He said the key phrase! lol
literally
CHH: “I’m not a Ben Shapiro thumper”
Also CHH: opens own stance by copying a Ben Shapiro “not about race, but culture” point
It's wild that he justified the elderly being racist but not that asylum seekers are legitimately seeking asylum.
The most hilarious thing is after this debate he made a TikTok saying people who say systematic racism is real are dumb and all his comments were you got destroyed by vaush
Of course this smoothie brain has a tiktok
Then he turned off his comments 😭
It's really sad. He seems determined never to change his mind no matter how demonstrably wrong he is. A fascist in the making. If fascism ever does claim the US, he'll be one of the supporters. Hell, he might even be among those who wield the guns.
What's his @?
suck toes theconservativevalues i think i’m not for sure
Every rightwing debater: Acting smug even when you're wrong means you're right ;-)
me trying to find the lie: 👁👄👁
Every single one of them does the same smug laugh when they have nothing to say
people with a brain: “a government source has proven that the government is racist” this dude:”haha okayy liberal stop telling me your biased opinions”
"the republican party, proud lover of hispanics" i CACKLED
me too BDBDBSHSH
Plssss
RIGHT
Anthony Bullaro did...did you not watch the video? they don’t even get a chance to come legally because they get put in cages BEFORE they can go through the legal procedures.
ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH i’ll link u an article, asylum seekers CAN declare asylum in the US once they are anywhere in the border. if ICE is grabbing immigrants before they can declare asylum, how are they supposed to do it “legally”?
As a black woman, I’ve gained a lot of respect for Vaush.
“They smoked weed in a more heinous way than me”
LMFAOO FR THE CONSERVATIVE IS SO DUMB.
HE MAKES MY HEAD HURT
“Ok listen-“
*makes no valid points*
lmfaooooooooo
I saw this as soon as he said another "ok listen"
They always say “facts over feelings” but then won’t bring up any evidence and just say “well obviously this is worse”
That’s because “Facts over Feelings” is literally their only argument. Conservative you tubers never actually present evidence other than the occasional out of context statistics
And when you ask them for sources:" That's just common sense bro".
SXXP fac
Identifying something as more morally incorrect than something else is not soley based on feeling, ence why debates on morality and ethnics are able to be so logical and not full of fallacious appeals, same applies to political debates...now of course the one proposing something as bad needs to come up with a good argument for it
this guy: so you’re saying we’re just unjustly imprisoning people?
vaush: yes. yes, and that’s why we’re being criticized.
this guy: _laughing_ there’s NO WAY we’re doing that hahah
unbelievably stubborn and infuriating to watch
"Studies show that drinking bleach causes death 80% of the time."
"Uhh fake news. What hats were the mice wearing?"
“What brand of bleach was it?”
"What brand of bleach were they using? Until we know what brand they used, we can't be sure that drinking bleach causes death."
Disappointing Person And were they wearing rainbow shoes, cause I hear that has something to do with it..
"Have we controlled for everything they ate and drank for 24 hours before drinking the bleach? If we didn't do that, how would we know it was the bleach, and not something else that they all ate/drank?"
It’s okay to break international law to drink a little bleach
Imagine being ConservativeHypeHouse and trying to salvage even a single moment of this debate to post onto TikTok.
LMAO
If cancer was contagious, I think I caught it watching this. I debate these kids daily it’s sad
Do u know the person he was debating?
Cat Suppository nickvideos?
The Ben Shapiro quote in the begging.😆
Vincent H. Why are you replying to month old comments? That’s weird asf
Cat Suppository Tik Tok??? Well that sure says a lot.
this was literally 51 minutes of this kid trying to justify racism...
I love how he went from “Systematic racism isn’t real, it’s a cultural thing” to “Steal babies because America is better than Mexico”
Well, you can’t expect anything less then Asian hating, South American hating, black hating, ignorant idiots that think white people are the best and America is white people country everyone else is second.
Also don’t get me on a rant about their opinions on art and such, they really just don’t get it..
@@raufmagan can you expand on that please?
@@raufmagan ah, that makes sense. Yes, they tend to think it is useless
I was totally blown away
He legitimately said he was against asylum seekers and then continued to argue later that we should take children from their families, TECHNICALLY AS ASYLUM SEEKERS, but only because he unironically believes concentration camps are better than South American nations
Wtf
kid was just like "I think we should be able to break internation law because...... america"
Thats basically the US' foreign policy for its entire history
it's because we're exceptional. do we really have to be like other countries and not commit human rights violations? america baby!
@@bonkmeabeab3563 merica, the only real country
he really said “yeah the US can agree to follow UN law but it doesn’t mean they have to actually do it”
Vaush: *lists facts*
other dude: *breathes loudly into mic*