NEW PART TWO SLEEPER BUILD: th-cam.com/video/akkH2E2o_-U/w-d-xo.html For extra clarification around pricing, the total cost of the Watercooling stuff and the console was $200NZD ($125USD). The arduino stuff I already had. All temperatures are in celsius. Hope you all enjoy this video! *As always if you have any feedback or thoughts, please leave a comment! Q&A Below. *. Why did I do this? The Xbox 360 was my first games console, and since I had never watercooled anything before, I thought It'd be fun to try water cooling it. *. Are you stupid? I went into this project with almost no research and exerience, I just went for it and made many mistakes. I've received a ton of feedback which I'm extremely grateful ful. *. RGH, SSD, softmod? This console (Xbox 360 E, Winchester Board) can't be RGH modded, I didn't know what model console I was purchasing, It was a bundle deal and I'm not complaining. Due to this video's performance, I've added it to the list to redo this video with an RGH compatible console, where watercooling, RGH, and other mods will be worth doing. *. That's awesome! Thanks! *. That's a waste of time and money. That's fair. My execution of the project was not good enough to deserve this much attention. I intend to do it justice with the second attempt. *. Why not a higher end console? Budget, lol
video suggestion: turn xbox into ultimate gaming machine by overclocking it MAX! and soft modding it/installing modchips? i know thats a lot for 1 video suggestion from a fan.
@@empty-h3k I’ve been wanting to do something like that! This video’s been a good practice run to see how things could go. Hopefully I’ll get a video out like that in the future!
@@haypurtiryading I purchased it with all the other watercooling gear as a bundle on Trade Me, I couldn't find it listed individually, sorry about that.
@@empty-h3k rgh the console although the later models of the E cant be rgh'd more spefifically if your E is an Winchester you cant mod it if its a Corona you can
@@benjaminmaher8896 I would say it's definitely obsolete (especially for newer titles on it). But the hardware itself and older dashboard is from 2006, it's retro (or at least getting there for younger people).
You should've used the OG white Xbox 360s with zephyr and falcon chips. Those were the units infamous for having a high chance of getting RROD. It'll be quite interesting stress testing them
It would be interesting, but I imagine they’d probably still fail at some point. The chips are still getting hot when under load; it’s the thermal expansion and contraction cycling of the chip and interposer that was responsible for the RRoD, not overheating.
@@nameless-user I mean to be fair literally every console created will all eventually fail. Also as far as Fat Xbox 360s.are concerned, Jasper revisions are solid reliability wise.
I highly recommend taking out the hard drive whenever messing with a 360, in order to avoid any damage or messing up the hdd or the console. It's very easy, as with slim and E model consoles, you just have to pull on the tab and it should come out easily.
I think for the PC thing, if you’re willing to dabble in it a bit, you could probably find a way to mount the Xbox 360 power supply in there. The jack it uses to plug into the wall unplugged separately as its own part and it’s the same as a normal PC cable.
Man what a cool build and video! Back in the day (2008) we lanned 2 OG 360s for 8 player halo 3 in a garage. Got so hot we used household fans to cool them 😂 later got something called an xbox intercooler that clipped onto the back and extracted the warm air. Still got my old 360 in the garage but my daughter prefers the ps3🙈
The Xbox 360E is already cool. The only problem with it are the ram and built-in memory. I look forward to seeing another video from you doing a watercooled mod from the Xenon, Xephyr, Opus, and Falcon revisions and doing a test.
Fun Fact! The model E (your model) is the last xbox 360 redesign releasing on 2013-06-10, then 5 months later (on 2013-11-22) the xbox one came out! edit: dates go year, month, day.
I have a new one in original box. Only used once after i put a custom firmware board in it, then back in box and been sitting in closet along with 6 others.
That water block dude wtf 😂 I used those once on a TEC chiller I made, they worked well enough for that, I wouldn’t trust them as a water block. Also, I would anchor those tubes in place on that block with something, a zip tie, a hose clamp, just use something. Don’t leave them loose on those barbs, don’t ask how I know 🤦♂️
Yeah it ain’t perfect, but enough for now. I got some clamps with the kit, they didn’t seem necessary at the time, but I’ll make sure to install them. Cheers
i would just like to say that at the beginning when you say "the xbox 360 isnt visually striking' your technically correct when it comes to older ones with the hourglass shape the whole point was customization faceplates and the like but the Elite model you have is a direct predicessor of the og xbox 1 and why they look very similar your image has a mix of base and later models that have been de crazified
You’re the first English person with a Boston accent that I’ve ever seen lol. Good content too. I think you’ve filled a void for anyone that was gaming in this era. Thank you. I already liked and subbed
FUNFACT: He is used the XBOX 360E and this console is most silent console in the xbox 360 family and this console also built in diffrent motherboard make him hard to hack (all dream ended there) and good at perfomance
I just want to add watercooling to all my older consoles, and have it connect to a main quick connect system. Be nice to have it connected to a large watercooling block lol. That's all I'd want, and to commission modern ones incorporating more efficient parts and the like... probably take about 120k to get microsoft to build a modern xbox original tbh, on the low end...
I love the build not sure about the aluminum plate i cant remember if it could potentially short circuit it but other than that its a great buld cant wait for the sleeper build
It’s possible that it could short circuit the components, I did use spacers, but I disassembled the whole project shortly after it was done as I had some concerns about the longevity. I’m looking forward to getting started on the sleeper build! I’ve got 1.5 videos to go before I get started.
That's so awesome my dude, can you maybe make one in the near future with the fat ps4? Because that's the one that's the loudest and has the most heating issues
Good job! Since you are going through all the effort it would be cool to see a temp sensor directly on the die and maybe one in the fluid, its pretty useful information
Unfortunately this model can’t be modded with RGH or JTAG, but hopefully I’ll be able to try this again (and do it better) with a non Winchester model xbox 360.
Jtag is impossible on all slims. It only works on phat consoles running dashboard 7371 or lower. The next best thing is rgh3 which is only 2 wires and a resistor and works on all consoles EXCEPT Winchester, xenon, and zephyrs.
@@randomchannel9331 If I can find one then that could be a good extra project, but I definitely want to try getting RGH3 on a (compatible) slim console, primarily for the practice and features.
setting aside the cursed disassembly if you had done this to a modded console you would have had exact before and after temperatures because modding it gives you access to temp data
If you RGH the console and use custom firmware, there's already an internal temperature included inside the board, you can the the temp status on the main menu.
I was hoping to do that, but this model doesn’t support rgh unfortunately. I’m planning on doing this type of project again but with an RGH3.0 compatible model like the slim.
@@TommyHoughton There's a few 360 E models which are able to be Rgh'd. However, it's only those who where fabricated before 2013. Could be useful if you want to just swap mobos
While that’s not possible with this model (Winchester) I’ve bought a slim model to redo this project for December with the benefits of RGH (among other things...) Cheers
Very neat, i was suprised he said nzd i think that the first time on TH-cam i have heard nzd. Also i hope that the project go's well and if you try getting in tge pc case good luck, i think it will be cool. Maybe cables from the board to the cd drive and replace the original that would be so cool, a xbox that looks like a pc.
might wanna consider a cut out behind the radiator so the fans can breathe. also please dont just use thermal paste to mount those heatsinks on the ram chips, that won't hold.
I used standoffs to add some clearance. When putting the radiator in the pc case, I’ll see how thermals are and then cut out some of the frame if necessary. You’re right about the thermal paste not holding, I’m looking at finding a better solution.
@@TommyHoughton I know I am right because I made the same mistake lol :P Those sort of chips don't get too hot so any form of thermal putty, thermal adhesive pad would do the trick. You can use thermal glue which holds best but it can be a nightmare to take off if you ever wanted to put everything back into the original case.
Thermal glue is a good idea, I don’t intend to put this machine back together (since it’s going in the pc case) and the heatsinks look neat, so I’ll stick them down. Thanks!
@@TommyHoughton No problem, I used thermal glue years back on a GPU heatsink upgrade. I think it was the arctic accelero 3 cooler on a GTX480 the hot boy. That cooler had little heatsinks for the VRAM and VRMs which used thermal glue. Nasty stuff to remove, requires heating up before you can take them off or you risk ripping off or cracking the chips if you try to pry them away. The cooler was exceptional though, down from 75C to 55C :) I'll never forget that purchase.
Wow bring back some memories I had mine watercooled with a 120mm rad all those years ago you used to be able to buy actual proper waterblocks that fitted perfectly - i probably still got mine in the shed lol.
NEW PART TWO SLEEPER BUILD:
th-cam.com/video/akkH2E2o_-U/w-d-xo.html
For extra clarification around pricing, the total cost of the Watercooling stuff and the console was $200NZD ($125USD). The arduino stuff I already had. All temperatures are in celsius. Hope you all enjoy this video! *As always if you have any feedback or thoughts, please leave a comment!
Q&A Below.
*. Why did I do this?
The Xbox 360 was my first games console, and since I had never watercooled anything before, I thought It'd be fun to try water cooling it.
*. Are you stupid?
I went into this project with almost no research and exerience, I just went for it and made many mistakes. I've received a ton of feedback which I'm extremely grateful ful.
*. RGH, SSD, softmod?
This console (Xbox 360 E, Winchester Board) can't be RGH modded, I didn't know what model console I was purchasing, It was a bundle deal and I'm not complaining. Due to this video's performance, I've added it to the list to redo this video with an RGH compatible console, where watercooling, RGH, and other mods will be worth doing.
*. That's awesome!
Thanks!
*. That's a waste of time and money.
That's fair. My execution of the project was not good enough to deserve this much attention. I intend to do it justice with the second attempt.
*. Why not a higher end console?
Budget, lol
video suggestion: turn xbox into ultimate gaming machine by overclocking it MAX! and soft modding it/installing modchips?
i know thats a lot for 1 video suggestion from a fan.
@@empty-h3k I’ve been wanting to do something like that! This video’s been a good practice run to see how things could go. Hopefully I’ll get a video out like that in the future!
Could you give the resorvoir link?
@@haypurtiryading I purchased it with all the other watercooling gear as a bundle on Trade Me, I couldn't find it listed individually, sorry about that.
@@empty-h3k rgh the console although the later models of the E cant be rgh'd
more spefifically if your E is an Winchester you cant mod it if its a Corona you can
always love to see *OLD* consoles getting modded.
The fact that xbox 360 is getting called retro today makes me feel real old lmaoo
it isnt retro
Its a 6th gen console, its not that retro
🙄
@@benjaminmaher8896 I would say it's definitely obsolete (especially for newer titles on it). But the hardware itself and older dashboard is from 2006, it's retro (or at least getting there for younger people).
You should've used the OG white Xbox 360s with zephyr and falcon chips. Those were the units infamous for having a high chance of getting RROD. It'll be quite interesting stress testing them
I’ll keep an eye out if there’s any being sold locally!
For reference, there's a diagram online showing the different model types from power connector ports. That's the differential!
It would be interesting, but I imagine they’d probably still fail at some point. The chips are still getting hot when under load; it’s the thermal expansion and contraction cycling of the chip and interposer that was responsible for the RRoD, not overheating.
@@nameless-user Yeah but there is less thermal expansion if you keep the chip cooler. That's the point of better cooling LOL
@@nameless-user I mean to be fair literally every console created will all eventually fail. Also as far as Fat Xbox 360s.are concerned, Jasper revisions are solid reliability wise.
This being the last generation 360 - runs pretty cool already. Great project execution
You did a great job! We all have to start somewhere! Look forward to the future and what you will be able to accomplish!
This video is going to get millions of views
Couldn't agree more :) "new subscriber"
Yeah it definitely will probably hit 1 mil by feb 2024 or maybe even late January
It’s gonna be one of those videos that gets a random boost 3 years after it released
I know
Nop cause its bullshit
I highly recommend taking out the hard drive whenever messing with a 360, in order to avoid any damage or messing up the hdd or the console. It's very easy, as with slim and E model consoles, you just have to pull on the tab and it should come out easily.
So awesome to see older consoles getting modded loved my 360e especially water-cooled and loving the channel
Great video Tommy - It just keeps getting better and better! Love It!🤟
I can relate with the destruction needed to open up the Xbox 360
I think for the PC thing, if you’re willing to dabble in it a bit, you could probably find a way to mount the Xbox 360 power supply in there. The jack it uses to plug into the wall unplugged separately as its own part and it’s the same as a normal PC cable.
Thanks for the tip and suggestion!
Man what a cool build and video! Back in the day (2008) we lanned 2 OG 360s for 8 player halo 3 in a garage. Got so hot we used household fans to cool them 😂 later got something called an xbox intercooler that clipped onto the back and extracted the warm air. Still got my old 360 in the garage but my daughter prefers the ps3🙈
That sounds awesome
The Xbox 360E is already cool. The only problem with it are the ram and built-in memory.
I look forward to seeing another video from you doing a watercooled mod from the Xenon, Xephyr, Opus, and Falcon revisions and doing a test.
As a New Zealander, I can confirm this is what we do in our free time.
I modded my mw3 edition 360 with a cpu air cooler and two Corsair fans. I also added RGB lights because why not.
Seeing this with a newer console would be cool
This video was really good! I really liked the project, without a doubt a masterpiece!
Fun Fact! The model E (your model) is the last xbox 360 redesign releasing on 2013-06-10, then 5 months later (on 2013-11-22) the xbox one came out!
edit: dates go year, month, day.
Bro the nostalgia from that Xbox 360 Minecraft hits hard
THIS IS SO GOOD TOMMY CONGRATS ON 50K VEIWS!!!!
Thanks Misty!!
I have a new one in original box. Only used once after i put a custom firmware board in it, then back in box and been sitting in closet along with 6 others.
The fan exhausts air out of the Xbox. You won’t feel air around the heat sink as it is “sucking it out” rather than “pushing it in”
i opened my 360e just a few days ago, redid the thermal paste, Enjoyed watching someone else do it
That’s a lot of effort for new thermal paste! I’m sure it helped a lot of course.
I love that you chose the 360. This is straight up impressive. +1
this is such a cool Xbox i cant wait for it to go in the PC case, its a shame it cant be modded so you could overclock it or something!
That water block dude wtf 😂 I used those once on a TEC chiller I made, they worked well enough for that, I wouldn’t trust them as a water block. Also, I would anchor those tubes in place on that block with something, a zip tie, a hose clamp, just use something. Don’t leave them loose on those barbs, don’t ask how I know 🤦♂️
Yeah it ain’t perfect, but enough for now. I got some clamps with the kit, they didn’t seem necessary at the time, but I’ll make sure to install them. Cheers
I've been waiting for years for someone to do this
Ok this is really cool, if this wasn't a winchester board I'd be annoyed that you didn't mod it, since there is a built in temperature read
by the way ifixit has a video about the xbox 360 e body posted in march of 2023 (idk when this video was filmed)
Tommy is a legend... I was glued till the end... hahha SUBBED!
No light of death expected, that's really something.
i would just like to say that at the beginning when you say "the xbox 360 isnt visually striking' your technically correct when it comes to older ones with the hourglass shape the whole point was customization faceplates and the like but the Elite model you have is a direct predicessor of the og xbox 1 and why they look very similar your image has a mix of base and later models that have been de crazified
gotta love seeing old consoles getting an upgrade lets go
This is what my Xbox 360 needs.
Those ATMEGA328P's pack a punch. Great computational performance, especially in the realm of 8 bit machines.
not only a cool concept
but (at least to me), it was quite the eye candy
just ignore the cables
amazing video! Criminally underrated.
Thanks!
I immediately subscribed because this is absolutely amazong
This was a really cool project, glad it all worked out
If you homebrew the Xbox you can get the die tempetures directly from the thermometer on the motherboard
Youre great on camera dude right on, but that tear down was VERY PAINFUL lol
when i heard 200nzd i was like ayeee good to see local content bro!
Cheers mate! I appreciate that
You’re the first English person with a Boston accent that I’ve ever seen lol. Good content too. I think you’ve filled a void for anyone that was gaming in this era. Thank you. I already liked and subbed
nothing is overkill
Old consoles getting things that weren't meant to be is always awsome
Bro how do you only have 3k subs, you are gonna get famous if you keep up these banger videos.
Great vid man! Hope to see some more 360 shenanigans!
FUNFACT: He is used the XBOX 360E and this console is most silent console in the xbox 360 family and this console also built in diffrent motherboard make him hard to hack (all dream ended there) and good at perfomance
just subscribed cant wait for 360 sleeper build videos 🎉🎉
I just want to add watercooling to all my older consoles, and have it connect to a main quick connect system. Be nice to have it connected to a large watercooling block lol. That's all I'd want, and to commission modern ones incorporating more efficient parts and the like... probably take about 120k to get microsoft to build a modern xbox original tbh, on the low end...
That would be awesome for sure. Yeah, shame R&D would cost a stupid amount for them. At least makers can fill the void. Cheers
You could have literally just put a large passive heat-sink on it and mounted it to the board externally and it would have been just as cooled.
I love the build not sure about the aluminum plate i cant remember if it could potentially short circuit it but other than that its a great buld cant wait for the sleeper build
It’s possible that it could short circuit the components, I did use spacers, but I disassembled the whole project shortly after it was done as I had some concerns about the longevity. I’m looking forward to getting started on the sleeper build! I’ve got 1.5 videos to go before I get started.
Can't wait to watch this channel grow
Watching that tear down while working in repairs on them when they were current gen consoles was really painful😂
That's so awesome my dude, can you maybe make one in the near future with the fat ps4? Because that's the one that's the loudest and has the most heating issues
I’ll add it to the list! I’ve never had a playstation, so it’ll be exciting. If it enters the works I’ll post an update!
I don’t know who you are but this was a gem to find. Subbed ❤
Now to put it into a badass case
Make sure to check put part two!
Underrated video. Ive got a 360E and its cool seeing people do stuff to it
Good job! Since you are going through all the effort it would be cool to see a temp sensor directly on the die and maybe one in the fluid, its pretty useful information
That’s a great idea! I’ll see if I can do that for part 2
Or if it is possible (I think all xbox 360s can be jailbroken?), jailbreak it and get the temps from the source
Damn bro this is cool it would also be cool to see this done with a wii
You should JTAG the console and try compiling stuff like gentoo on it for the ultimate test of your water-cooling /s
Unfortunately this model can’t be modded with RGH or JTAG, but hopefully I’ll be able to try this again (and do it better) with a non Winchester model xbox 360.
Jtag is impossible on all slims. It only works on phat consoles running dashboard 7371 or lower. The next best thing is rgh3 which is only 2 wires and a resistor and works on all consoles EXCEPT Winchester, xenon, and zephyrs.
@@TommyHoughton Why not do it on an Xenon 360? Those are most known for overheating problems anyway right?
@@randomchannel9331 If I can find one then that could be a good extra project, but I definitely want to try getting RGH3 on a (compatible) slim console, primarily for the practice and features.
@@TommyHoughton Well the xenons are compatible with RGH 1.2 iirc
Cant wait to see the sleeper build
wow what a cool project congrats
Honestly i love your videos dude , underrated asf
Thanks mate, really appreciate it!
Now, that's real gaming if I've ever seen gaming
Nice video, i'm sure this channel will grow in no time.
setting aside the cursed disassembly if you had done this to a modded console you would have had exact before and after temperatures because modding it gives you access to temp data
Very nice explanation man
Cheers Sarnim, thanks for watching.
Amazing project it was so nice seeing this❤
Well done young man!!
Thank you!
If you RGH the console and use custom firmware, there's already an internal temperature included inside the board, you can the the temp status on the main menu.
I was hoping to do that, but this model doesn’t support rgh unfortunately. I’m planning on doing this type of project again but with an RGH3.0 compatible model like the slim.
@@TommyHoughton There's a few 360 E models which are able to be Rgh'd. However, it's only those who where fabricated before 2013. Could be useful if you want to just swap mobos
It hurts me to see a direct die hard mount, but if it works, it works
right on. love to see it.
Great video my guy def a intresting one love watching old consoles given new life
i like how the liquid bottle looks like a thicc level
very cool video, as the 1st vid iv seen of yours i cant wait to see what else you do as i explore more of your vids!
Thanks!
They pretty much fixed the RRoD issues by the slim. This would have been more useful with a phat model.
You really should have done this to one of the first 360 models that have the heating issues and would red ring because of it
i had a history of mine getting the red ring of death from overheating so this is well needed
love the video !!! also you should invest in some good plastic pry tools !!! they work for alot of things !
I’ve been recommended to do that! I’ll try find a few locally. Thanks!
I’m making an all in one emulation box with every game from Xbox 360 with a raspberry pi and 1tb micro and card 💪
I recently searched for this because I thought it was funny and got nothing. Thank you for making this lmao.
Great Video but i think you should try another AAA games for the 360 generation to know that max temperature that console can achieve!
You broke ever single panel on the console
unfortunately yeah
Nice content! You've just earned yourself a new sub 😉
Instead, you could have reset glitch hacked (RGH) the console which would show the temps and would have been cheaper.
While that’s not possible with this model (Winchester) I’ve bought a slim model to redo this project for December with the benefits of RGH (among other things...) Cheers
Very neat, i was suprised he said nzd i think that the first time on TH-cam i have heard nzd. Also i hope that the project go's well and if you try getting in tge pc case good luck, i think it will be cool. Maybe cables from the board to the cd drive and replace the original that would be so cool, a xbox that looks like a pc.
might wanna consider a cut out behind the radiator so the fans can breathe. also please dont just use thermal paste to mount those heatsinks on the ram chips, that won't hold.
I used standoffs to add some clearance. When putting the radiator in the pc case, I’ll see how thermals are and then cut out some of the frame if necessary. You’re right about the thermal paste not holding, I’m looking at finding a better solution.
@@TommyHoughton I know I am right because I made the same mistake lol :P
Those sort of chips don't get too hot so any form of thermal putty, thermal adhesive pad would do the trick. You can use thermal glue which holds best but it can be a nightmare to take off if you ever wanted to put everything back into the original case.
Thermal glue is a good idea, I don’t intend to put this machine back together (since it’s going in the pc case) and the heatsinks look neat, so I’ll stick them down. Thanks!
@@TommyHoughton No problem, I used thermal glue years back on a GPU heatsink upgrade. I think it was the arctic accelero 3 cooler on a GTX480 the hot boy. That cooler had little heatsinks for the VRAM and VRMs which used thermal glue. Nasty stuff to remove, requires heating up before you can take them off or you risk ripping off or cracking the chips if you try to pry them away. The cooler was exceptional though, down from 75C to 55C :) I'll never forget that purchase.
Awesome video! I really liked it.
Well there are other versions of 360. Crazy how small everything is and how close to a pc it is.
finally a kiwi tech tuber
we gettin there
Here before your first million subs :) you have good times ahead of ya.
I really appreciate it! I’ll do my best to share those good times with everyone. Cheers
Should have done this to the original RRoD Xbox 360 models.
I plan on retrying this again in the future
Wow bring back some memories I had mine watercooled with a 120mm rad all those years ago you used to be able to buy actual proper waterblocks that fitted perfectly - i probably still got mine in the shed lol.
The fan isnt blowing but sucking air,so no heatsink for the chips needed
Thanks for the tip!
👍👍 well, it's serious that you were able to put it together. Congratulations. 💪you won an extra subscriber. 🔔I'm watching your other videos. 👍👍👍👍
Great work! Great project! 🎉🎉🎉
Now upgrade the ram!
Rgh3 it!
i lol'ed at the dog scene.
This project would've been far more painful to watch if it weren't the same damn things I've done
As someone that water cools each ram stick with a dedicated 420mm rad i see this as a undercooled system