The Forgotten Kings of Scotland
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- Medieval Scotland was a crossroads. Celtic Kings of Scots became Norman Kings of Scotland. What was the turning point and who were the forgotten Kings of medieval Scotland? Scottish history tour guide Bruce Fummey explains how one family asserted Norman Primogeniture
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Scotland History Tours is here for people who want to learn about Scottish history and get ideas for Scottish history tours. I try to make videos which tell you tales from Scotland's past and give you information about key dates in Scottish history and historical places to visit in Scotland. Not all videos are tales from Scotland's history, some of them are about men from Scotland's past or women from Scotland's past. Basically the people who made Scotland. From April 2020 onward I've tried to give ideas for historic days out in Scotland. Essentially these are days out in Scotland for adults who are interested in historical places to visit in Scotland.
As a Scottish history tour guide people ask: Help me plan a Scottish holiday, or help me plan a Scottish vacation of your from the US. So I've tried to give a bit of history, but some places of interest in Scotland as well.
This guy is an actor, historian and a story teller like no other
Watch it. His heid'll get too big tae fit in the question mark
@@ScotlandHistoryTours your ma morning jobby watch I try squeeze one out to an episode
@@jamiemacdiarmid5640 I have tried to translate this sentance with google translater with no success I assume it is some form rare and localised gaelic possibly only spoken on one or two remote islands to the far north. An english translation would greatly be appreciated so as to further my knowledge of rare languages.
@@stufromoz8164 think he means taking his morning dump lol.
This guy is a Wus
I lived next to king Malcoms burial mount. His grave was robbed and we used to play inside his grave when we were kids (we had no idea it was a grave at the time until we grew older and wiser). Many of my hometown still do not know what it is and there is little awareness of the burial site. Very fascinating and Scottish history needs more people like you. Thanks for sharing.
I feel like the long list of reasons for high childhood mortality rates in the middleages needs to be updated to include "being heir to the crown of Scotland"
Jeez, I'd never considered the actuarial implications😮
Aye, lol
Possibly being the air to anything was a cause of infant mortality
@@roxannemcmann1497 don't you mean; being the heir to anything??
@@Drakengard-cb5ot I do talk to text and no reading glasses on my person makes for hilarity
How awesome is it that my new favorite Scottish oral historian is a man of color with dreadlocks descended from Ghana 🇬🇭 🏴 ? Great presentation, Bruce! I’m using your videos on several of my Scottish heritage Facebook sites. Keep up the great work!
Guid lad
I'm an American of Scottish and English descent. Bruce, as an American I feel pretty strongly that you are a true Scotsman. Skin color has nothing to do with that. What has to do with it is do you accept the Scottish culture as your own? Thsts enough for me. I listen to your videos at work. Whst I hear is a Scotsman who is proud of his country. Thats good enough for me.
Very well put. :)
Thanks Bruce! Not shocked you've had folk being like that, but definitely best delivery on scots history I've ever watched.. natural as fook. Thanks again man👍
Ah Steven, I thank you sir
I needed you as a teacher in Mathematics! Your teaching style just opens the mind to absorb every droplet of knowledge. Alba Gu Brath!🏆👍❤😊
You're the most African looking highland princess I've ever seen
Where’s Walter Strand I want to give him a piece of my mind 😤😂
Haha, I believe his infamous comment has been stranded
So he could use it against you.
I came here looking for him too!!
His storytelling reminds me of my history teacher in secondary school it set me on a life long path of interest in history and hidden history
History got me through some rough times in my life
Love his work
Oh my God I have a new favourite channel! This man is brilliant, eloquent, and I love that Scottish wit! I'm going to have to get on the Patreon!
Yay!
Your videos are so well researched that I believe you should have millions of subscribers . Thank you for your many excellent videos .
Bruce you tell a story like no one else.
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you are ably continuing the oral tradition of the celts. love these videos.
You are so subtly funny-I love it!!!
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Oh good Lord! my brain is so overloaded, just when I think I'm following the story my eyes cross and my head spins. i'll need to watch this another time or two and then another couple of times before it can sink in. Wish me luck.
🤣Sorry
I’ve lived in Angus most of my life, went to Forfar Academy and have never heard the story of the bairn at the merkat cross! Another history lesson from our own town that we were never taught at school! Great video Bruce - Fettercairn, cairn o mount. If I’m going to Deeside, I always take Wades cairn road
I LOVE your channel! I'm a Whisky Tuber whose family left Wales in the 1620's and came to what is now called the USA. I visited Scotland in June 2018 and again in July 2019 and have thus far visited 40 distilleries. I've been everywhere in Scotland but the north western isles such as Skye, Mull, Harris etc. But hope to return in 2022 and visit them as well. My body is in California but my mind and heart is still in Scotland. Maybe I'll my body be buried there when I die.
If you ever want to put together a tour with a fat Afro Celts at the helm let me know
Get your ass to mull then travel north to Skye, fantastic islands, went last yr for the first time, Skye is stunning, but busy at peak, those are inner Hebrides,
The outer Hebrides are Lewis to barra, never been but planning on doing butt of Lewis to south barra as this years holiday, another cool wee place is ballachullish, when there’s mist in glencoe it spills out of the glen right above ballachullish, looks creepy as,
I'm hooked.
I'm kicking myself for not finding your channel sooner.
Another great episode shining a light on a sadly forgotten, but no less important era in Scottish history.
You should be on prime time telly.
You're here now and that's all that matters
this is without doubt the best history lesson..story..i have ever heard. i'm English through and through but i was so caught up...and when that little 3 year old girl was murdered i felt sick and so much anger...thank you
Thanks
Stumbled across your channel one day and been watching you ever since. thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge in such an entertaining and informative way. Brilliant work:))
Welcome aboard!
someone please give this man his own TV show he’s the best.
I agree
all my grandparents! I can give you some more info. I recently started my ancestory
Constantine ll of Alba is my peronal favorite.
Another great presentation Bruce! (I’m never surprised at some of the brutality in history of ‘some’ fellow Scots)!
If this man was a professor, I'd sneak into his class just to hear him teach.
😂You're too kind
That was a super video. Thanks Bruce.
Thank YOU
Discovered this channel by chance. What a piece of luck! Brilliant research and history portrayed in terms that all of us can understand ! Well done!
Thanks David
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Bruce is mae new favorate thing.
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I remember reading about this history with my mother, thx for the memories!
Wow - Malcolm Canmore looked Amazingly like you!
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Thanks for another great history lesson. I knew practically none of that🤷🏼♀️ wow!
Every day's a school day👨🎓
@@ScotlandHistoryTours aye, so they say, just wish we’d had some of this history at school. I was desperate to learn more Scottish and ancient history but was so disappointed when I got to my Highers and we did WW2. Wasn’t history to me as my mum had been alive then 😅
Don't worry. More comments helps the video get promoted to others. Viva l' algorithm!
@D Dee I was at high school in the 80s, in our second year we did ‘Changing life in Scotland’ which focused on the industrial revolution and touched on the highland clearances, as well as looking into the slave trade and Scottish innovations. That was great....but for O grade and Highers it was all about both world wars and all the treaties and political landscape in Europe, progressing closer to what I saw as current affairs. I was so disappointed. I loved history and would have thrown myself into learning much more if they had gone backwards, not forward in time. All the early Scottish history I learned was at primary school.
Best history teacher,ever.
This is fascinating! No one tells history like you do. I also learned another way to pronounce 'Moray' is 'Murray' - my 7th great grandfather was Alexander MacIntosh who sold Blervie Castle near Moray early in the early 18th century and it eventually ended up with his father-in-law and my 8th ggf William Duff, Earl of Fife. I wonder if he sold the castle to pay for his family's passage to America. But there was an Alexander MacIntosh who was a tax collector from Moray who fought at Culloden. So I'm not sure yet if this AM was him or if my ggf had already gone to America or if so, he came back to fight or if he was a relative. Sorry, I digress. Thank you for sharing! Made my day, as always.
Surely there's only one way to pronounce Moray or Murray. It's the same way
I have no Scottish heritage a far as I know,but I do have an interest in History,and I do enjoy your style of delivery.You are clearly very knowledgeable,thank you for making me want to learn more about my Northern neighbours!
LOVE THIS GUY!!!
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Aye, I love Bruce's dour Caledonian wit, as well as his very own colourful historical viewpoint of Olde Écosse
Dour?🥺
Droll fits better. And try to find time for a whistle stop in AOTEAROA NZ's capital, and it'll be my shout OK Lad
Bruce you are a legend!!! Much love to your videos from kelty 😂😂🙌🙌
@Scotland history tours member of my family was put on the throne by longshanks, my paternal grandfather is a Scott from the line of Balliol through William Balliol le Scot who inherited family lands in kent where he set up a dynasty which produced 7 knights in sucession, Williams elder brother Alexander took the title and lands of Cavers.Alexander de Balliol the elder of Cavers, father of William and Alexander, was chancellor of Scotland and cousin of John Balliol. I have o 'Hara also, athebhiain faoi mhaise duit
I love your content -Paul Alexander Burnett
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Bruce you are an incredible person
Aye, tell that to the missus😂
3:36 Laughed till I coughed... well done
Im here for IT ALL!!
I'm amazed he provides all of this for us, the people, for free. Well done, sir.
You can, of course feel free to support the channel by buying coffee at www.www.buymeacoffee.com/ScottishBruce or get additional videos and stuff by becoming a member at www.patreon.com/scotlandhistorytours 😁😁😁
Seeing you outside a distillery prompts me to ask you: How about a video about the history of whisky? Please include Edradour! Slàinte.
Wild. Mary Queen of Scots and Robert the Bruce were on my list, but the third king was James I in my mind. Probably because he's one of my ancestors.
Well presented video
Superb communicator great vids
Thanks Daniel
Really enjoy your videos, learn so much about scottish history. Plus i love the drive at carn'o'mount drove it for years travelling from banchory
Aye, bonny view
Thanks Bruce another informative sto
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1st generation 🇨🇦 parents Scots...so glad I found your channel ❤️👏👏👏
Me too
Great job, as usual. Made a very difficult period understandable
Wohooo! I worried about not having made it clear
Agreed! Great story teller!
Thanks Terri
I found ancestors - Kenneth McApline, Duncan I, a few Maic Uilliams including Alexandair II, Malcolm III (a Canmore), Marjorie and Eadyth, Matilda of Scotland - gee what an interesting bunch
I'm a Welshman and I sing in 2 Male Voice Choirs and I'm still here.
such a beutifull and well made video. Well done mate, well done
Thank you very much!
The one surprise for me mind you was David.
I should have watched this one ...uh...7 months ago . Clears up a lot . And makes for a lot more questions ...grhh
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Thank you for unpacking the knotty problem of all those Malcolm's, good stories well told...E
Aaand...day 2..glued to the screen for 3h flat, listening to your stories. And I am not even scottish (although that seems to be a bit of an oddity in the world nowadays). Super interesting, man.
😂Thanks for joining in Paavo
Excellent, content, accuracy and presentation, my hats off to you SIR and may the Almighty protect and guide you in your doings, as i look foward to your next presentation ,absolutly brilliant!
By the Almighty, I take it you're talking about my wife😁
"..it would have been a pet name". First real laught today! Thanks.
We aim to please
Another nice one, Bruce! It would seem, though, that tanistry managed to impact Scotland even long after it was supplanted by primogeniture as evidenced by Knox's insistence that everyone be educated which is at the core of tanistry. N'est-ce pas? Alba gu bràth!
Well that ended with a bang!
Aye
There's Duncan, a whole bunch of James, and Macbeth that I can think of.
I have heard of Canmore, Alberta, Canada 😉
This man Tells it as it was,,,, tells as it was..🏴✌️😇🍺🇬🇧🏴
Being a history nut, if there is an afterlife I want mine to be where I could change events in history and see how they play out. I could spend an eternity playing with history lol.
The first Scottish king that comes to my mind when I hear the phrase "the forgotten kings of Scotland" is King Alexander III.
I feel like this guy and count dank could do a mad lad video
wow!!! I always wondered how this woumd work? Ya know the "what if"?
I first heard the word tanist in a history book I read for an independent studies course I created with the help of the head of the history department at my small University on early Scottish History almost 20 years ago. My ears perked up when it was used in the first season of Outlander, describing the complications of 'who's the next chieftain.' Now I'm curious, was that tanistry apparent in that scene like the woad paint on Wallace's face in Braveheart there for dramatic effect (though a couple centuries out of context), helping to immerse the audience in a 'fuller' dive into Scotland's culture as a whole? Or did the clans still operate as such in 1743?
"Of course, William the Lion wasn't actually a lion; it was a sobriquet. If he *was* a lion, it would have been a pet name."
To quote the Scottish Play, "Mother! I am slain!"
Idk about anyone else, but i would be very interested to learn about the ancient clan wars. In particular, stories involving clan Sutherland.
My mother's maternal (LOTS of greats) grandfather was Duncan I, and if I remember correctly, Cináed mac Ailpín was his ancestor nearly two centuries earlier. My maternal grandfather was a MacIntyre. So I'm very interested in this, and even desire to visit someday. But please, no haggis for me.
Just try the haggis once 😉
@@HaggisDruid If I ever get to visit, I will. Thanks.
I was fascinated by tanistry when I first read about it, & it was even more fascinating to hear about how the transition to primogeniture occurred. Tanistry seems so much more sensible, & you do see primogeniture crash & burn pretty dramatically after Alexander III died. I knew nothing of the MacWilliams- I knew Lulach had descendants, but only the 1st couple of generations, & I'd heard the story of the poor little girl's murder, but didn't know exactly who she was, so now it's all linked up nicely. Cheers!
To be honest both have disadvantages. The problem with tanistry was all too often the next in line tended to hurry along his predecessor's demise. There was a lost of long knives and short reigns
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Ah, yes, obvious point there- I'd forgotten that the zig-zag pattern of inheritance was often also a zig-zag of murder... A different kind of crash & burn- "long knives & short reigns", lol!
Grow up plz
@@beth7935 that was life back then hen
@@kennethmckean If you mean lots of regicide, yes, that's "how life was" in Mediaeval Scotland. So what? History is, by definition, studying how life was in the past, sooo...? :D Lots of regicide _isn't_ "how life was" for the entirety of human history, however, so saying "back then" is wildly over-generalising, & precludes any meaningful discussion of the vast differences between cultures & eras, or any theorising whatsoever. Just my immature view tho :D
You remind of shamus' dad on Braveheart
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@@ScotlandHistoryTours and I mean that will all respect... he was a Scotsman of Scotsman and i looked up to him. I look up to you brother. I honestly couldn't see you were of darker complexion I wondered once but thought noooo shamus dad looks like him lol. Really I just stopped looking at color years ago. The only woman I ever trusted to have my baby was a beautiful black woman rest her soul
One could be thinking that Canmore was itself cursed for the murder of the last MacWilliam.
"If it was a lion it would be a pet name" 😂😂 😂 😂 😂 I spilled my tea
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I'm waiting for his awesome Scottish reggae record to drop 😎
I have been watching a ton of your links, and you have proven my ignorance ie. My last comment. I don't know much about Scotland, there History for sure. I'm a yank,but the videos mostly History and ,about the nineth century, Scotsman for good or bad have been extraordinary in their goals.
So as far as the pattern goes, was it like 2 powerful families that were supposed to rotate the power of kingship intergenerationally ?
0:06 honestly William the lion springs to mind or David the First or Constantine the second. But that’s just me.
I have a family member from 1800s macalpine from scotland. He is were i get majority of my dna ancestry from.
i see your in fettercairn, did you visit the catheruns, they are roman hill forts, similair to the ones in another video of yours when you were at Rhynie in huntly?
Though I’ve never been able to verify it myself, it said that one of the members or descendants of my clan was king for a short time after McBeth. I’ve seen references to him being McBeth’s stepson as well. I was job that we are the original red headed step children. Maybe one day I’ll be able to verify any of this first hand.
Lulach
Malcolm Canmore was my 28 times great grandfather, so my ancestor killed yours..... Sorry about that!
@@richardeasterlow6988It's been 900 years, statistically anyone with any Scottish ancestry will be descended from both of them tbf.
@@1981Marcus yes that's totally true. There will be millions of people, alive today, that are descended from them. I was just being a bit flippant.
Malcome Canmore is definitely one of the greats. Kenneth MacAlpin as well. But the list of lesser known kings that helped or hindered the Scots, is a long one.
Primogeniture, really changed Royal Dynasties wherever it replaced anicient traditional successions. Personally, I've always believed Tanistry the better process, as it also enabled replacing poor monarchs over the incompetent ones.
Was the Maid of Norway murdered? Very likely, because it's extremely rare for anyone to die from seasickness (if her recorded symptoms were correctly chronicled), and there were plenty of candidates that stood to gain from her death.
I've been studying Scottish History since my teens Bruce, and I'm on the backside of my 60s now. You're very good at making me rethink some positions and persoectives I've assumed about peoples and events I've learned long held.
I can't thank you enough for the posers you,'ve given me.
Here to help😎
Just wondering if The MacAlpin will be mentioned.
The family tree really does reveal how unimaginative they were when naming their female children...
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Kenneth MacAlpin was a Gael (a Dalriadan) who became king of the Picts, but there is no evidence that he was ever king of the Gaels, much less of a Scottish nation. His four successors are all described as kings of the Picts, which means that a united Scotland didn't exist until fifty years after his death
Have you got any information on the first black king of Scotland? My grandpa researched our family tree and found he was in our family tree and I’d like to find more information
I've never heard of him
The landscape starting at 7:22 looks so much like South Dakota here in the States. It's bizarre.
I've been wanting to buy the book The Forgotten Monarchs of Scotland should I buy it after all
Where is the first section filmed? I'm pretty sure I've been through the sandstone arch but I can't for the life of me remember where it is.
Fettercairn
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Thank you! It's probably been 30 years since I was around that area so that could explain not remembering the exact spot.
Laughed out loud at "what colour will the baby be"
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Somewhere in my reading, I learned that I was descended from a relative of Macbeth. Wishful thinking or not, I suspect that if I want to keep my head, I best keep it down.
Just forget I said anything, will ya?
Now, in one video on another channel, I seem to recall that King Duncan caused trouble among the thanes when he proclaimed Malcolm Canmore as his successor, under the Norman rule of primogeniture, rather than keeping to the tanist tradition; and that this eventually led to his death in battle with Macbeth - or am I wrong? I hope you will elucidate.
Right enough, though it sounds more like his grandad MAlcolm when he appointed Duncan as his successor, but he'd just won at Carnham and was at the height of his powers. A good time to break bad news
as always enjoying the videos, following on from this you need to tell the story of Davi Earl of Huntington, whos family would go onto to shape Scotlands royal family. I'm a Brechin and if one of Davids bastard sons had been born the right side of the bed sheets the throne of Scotland would not have past to a Balliol or a Bruce but a Brechin!!
The great Reset/
Historic Restoration.
When I think of the forgotten kings and queens of Scotland I think of all the people who have dragged themselves out of bed everyday to till the soil or work in the factories or open there shops or teach there students or, even make scottish history video"s for these are the real forgotten kings and queens of scotland who deserve to be remembered with respect and admiration. Aristocracrats are sort of interesting , to a point but they are not the real kings and queens they need to have titles bestowed on them. Socialist rant over thanks for the great vid Bruce Cheers from down under mate.
When you said the 3 yr old girl was held triumphantly aloft, I started thinking "Lion King". Then everything went bad real fast....😱
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Poor wee bairn. :(