Circuit Skills: Surface Mount Devices

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2010
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    Join Collin Cunningham as he explores the oh-so-tiny world of surface mount electronics. Follow along as he constructs what may be the world's smallest phototheremin all in super-macro detail - plus learn why adhesive poster putty is so darn useful.
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  • @vtwinbreed
    @vtwinbreed 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally, a Make Magazine video about actually MAKING something.
    THANK YOU Collin.

  • @Musicfromouterspace
    @Musicfromouterspace 13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Collin
    I really like your videos and this one is no exception. I need to get going on designing my boards for SMD and your video helped me see that it isn't impossible for human hands. Thanks for the all of the tips. Excellent stuff.
    Cheers
    Ray

  • @spike2000uk
    @spike2000uk 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My job involves operating a 'pick and place' SMD machine. Last week I was placing 0201 resistors (some just 0.5mm apart) and 2x3mm IC's. Thank god for optical centering!

  • @jefflambricks
    @jefflambricks 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like his circuit skills series. very good way to introduce us to topics.

  • @ibakedthecake
    @ibakedthecake 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    ur a pro at soldering man!!!!
    those were so exact, and so small but you did it perfectly!!

  • @dj505Gaming
    @dj505Gaming 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Good luck finding that 0402 resistor when you drop it on the ground :P

  • @iowanchef
    @iowanchef 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work as always Collin.

  • @pmiller8656
    @pmiller8656 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVED THIS VIDEO! PLEASE MAKE MORE CIRCUIT SKILLS VIDEOS!

  • @averagemale2000
    @averagemale2000 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    freaking good video, thank you so much, look forward to seeing more in the future.

  • @maxlaam
    @maxlaam 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sound coming from this little device reminds me of the dentist.
    I really like those videos, they are informative and generally fun to watch!

  • @takabo
    @takabo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You don't need that adhesive crab. Just presolder one or two pin and tack the ic with one or to legs to the presoldered pins. It's easy and there will be no molten adhesive....

  • @16mmDJ
    @16mmDJ 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is impressive. Good work sir

  • @philnicholl13
    @philnicholl13 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i work with smt parts everyday operating and reworking, if i might suggest its much easier to tin one of the lands then use it to tack the component down. Instead of messing about with tack. Also a little bit of extra flux goes a long long way.

  • @RyanWAFFELYoung
    @RyanWAFFELYoung 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    okay, well a lot of people seem to be bitching about the music. I didn't even notice it the first watch, but after reading the comments and relistening to it, I new realize why I liked this video so much. The music reminds me of the old 321contact/reading rainbow style instruction/education videos.
    so, whatever. I liked it Collin.

  • @edgeeffect
    @edgeeffect 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First surface mount soldering I had to do was 0402.... that was terrifying!
    I miss Collin. :(

  • @DuarteOnTheLine
    @DuarteOnTheLine 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing solder skills!

  • @smoage
    @smoage 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow that fun tack! it doesn't have any adverse effects on the board? what a great makeshift fix to keep parts in place!

  • @mikeydk
    @mikeydk 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go Collin! Awesome videos!

  • @dedly13
    @dedly13 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    it was meant as an introduction dude, i found it fairly useful. if i want more info i can look further, if i dont think i will i wont. you dont need to rage

  • @rtvddomrd
    @rtvddomrd 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video. Very instructive. A+

  • @veenified
    @veenified 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Collin is why I subscribe to @makemagazine!

  • @mellowb1rd
    @mellowb1rd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The music was kinda ironic. Like...the vid was about SMDs, but the music was like, "Hey! The transistor has just been invented! Let's make electronic music! Won't THAT be futuristic!"

  • @Lobster1000
    @Lobster1000 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your tutorials!

  • @madamerotten
    @madamerotten 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @geek65535
    @geek65535 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A cleaner way to solder SMD devices is to tin each pad, then put the SMD down and press each lead down with the soldering iron. This will minimize the amount of solder used (for a cleaner connection) and make it easier to solder, as you only have to apply the soldering iron to each lead, not the soldering iron + the solder.

  • @rdmiller3
    @rdmiller3 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    My son and I did our first surface-mount soldering just yesterday to fix his LEGO NXT display. :)

  • @hopalongsnot
    @hopalongsnot 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Music was awesome, keep up the good work :)

  • @jj74qformerlyjailbreak3
    @jj74qformerlyjailbreak3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your insight

  • @SMDSchablonen
    @SMDSchablonen 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey, great video SMD electronics is fantastic , I hpe to see more videos like this !!!

  • @hobomnky
    @hobomnky 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love this guys videos!!!!!!!!

  • @akib89
    @akib89 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the Info!

  • @JosAugust
    @JosAugust 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video. Thanks!

  • @monotone31
    @monotone31 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tips:
    - do like others have said and "tack solder" the component first. Reheat the solder joint and adjust if needed.
    - use a little flux at each joint. Clean up with alcohol.
    - apply heat the to BOTH surfaces - the trace and the component.
    - use WAY less solder.
    I would have tacked soldered one leg of the 555, applied flux to the remaining legs, put a SMALL amount of solder on my iron, and heated each surface of the joints. The solder will flow off the tip perfectly to weld the components.

  • @gccengineering1996
    @gccengineering1996 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    From learning this video I can now use that protoboard to make a SMD version of the VLF converter circuit if I can find 4 pin oscillator chips in SMD size.

  • @TooSlowTube
    @TooSlowTube 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Point got to at around 3:55
    This one leg at a time technique requires steadier hands than I have, and more dexterity, but I like the "poster putty" tip. In the UK, the good stuff is called UHU White Tack.
    I've seen a video (which I'm looking for again) where a big blob of flux is placed over the pins, then the soldering iron is run across all of them on one side. The flux helps to stop the solder bridging between pins. I did that successfully once, on a 6 pin SMD chp. I wouldn't be able to do it the way this video shows.

  • @didaloca
    @didaloca 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For caps and resistors I just tin one of the pads, hold it down and reflow the solder. Same for the larger ICs, although I do one of the corners. A cheap usb microscope is fantastic for inspecting smd solder joints.

    • @patw52pb1
      @patw52pb1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Daniel Astbury Just use solder paste, with less component heating.
      Solder paste is intended for use on SMD components, but works equally well on through hole applications.
      Has the proper mix of low temp solder and flux in a convenient and easy to apply syringe applicator.
      Apply a tiny amount on the pad, place and press the component on the pad and add heat.
      Makes beautiful/perfect solder joints every time.
      Using a soldering iron is optional, use a heat gun or HD hair dryer as a heat source.
      Also for the number of connections per gram makes it is less expensive than wire solder and flux.
      I agree completely about the USB microscope.

    • @didaloca
      @didaloca 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      patw52pb1​
      Yeah I recently got a soldering station with a hot air iron. I use solder paste but I find it a huge pain to dispense properly on the board.

    • @patw52pb1
      @patw52pb1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Daniel Astbury Sorry to hear that it is a pain.
      Please describe how it is a pain for you?
      What are you using to dispense the paste?

  • @fatboysmale
    @fatboysmale 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    i used to be a surface mount engineer for a company doing maximum 0802 max, wish i had kept my videos from 10 years ago!
    how times change! :-)

  • @BrookNBones
    @BrookNBones 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    A tip for repairing SMD connections that have gone bad from vibration or not enough solder on them from the factory or even very small pieces that aren't big enough to solder with a conventional iron because they're so small that they have a tendency to want to stick to the tip of your iron even with tweezers, is to use a heat gun. I've soldered many SMDs over the years doing repairs and had a few that were so small that using a soldering iron hot enough to melt solder on one tab also melted it on the other end which often would make the SMD stick to the tip of the iron. Using a heat gun that is able to heat up above 450F works great and if you get a miniature model that has a precision tip on it to channel the hot air into a space of 1/4-1/2" you can usually do tighter spaces without unflowing other joints. I wouldn't recommend painting flux on prior to using this method and would suggest using rosin core solder once you've preheated the solder connections first bringing them almost up to the temp needed for the solder to stick before trying to add solder to a cold solder pad and component. While yes the solder as it melts will transfer heat to the SMD and SMD pad it will not do it as effectively if it's not preheated. I've used heat guns many times with great success. They'll also help fix the red ring o-death you can get on an XBox if you know what you're doing.

  • @mealloc
    @mealloc 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @kildas its to desolder. Its like tape. You take a small part and you make a physical contact to where to remove the bad solder. On the other side you apply your heated iron tip and the solder will bond to the Solder Wick. You will need to trow away the used part of the Solder Wick.

  • @silntdoogood
    @silntdoogood 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    JEEZ I build the optical theremin thingy for an English project in 9th or 10th grade, the board was 2x bigger than that board, speaker, and battery put together! I need to start looking into this!

  • @kathipaw
    @kathipaw 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    your videos are so cool :]

  • @phisitja01
    @phisitja01 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for information

  • @USAlien234
    @USAlien234 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    that was awesome !

  • @CulexDestructo
    @CulexDestructo 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible.
    Do you have any videos that offer in-depth tutorials on how to solder things? My soldering sucks, and almost never comes out right.

  • @valdisxp1
    @valdisxp1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did some SMD soldering without any poty(? the white stuff there) dint have a needle nose pliers, used a needle and had to reheat the 1st joint once or twice, still everything worked perfectly in the end.

  • @andy982183
    @andy982183 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent !!

  • @pmckinlay653
    @pmckinlay653 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I tend to do is this; get a little solder onto one pad on the board, then reflow one end/pin, solder the other(s) properly, then remove the tack solder with wick(because it lacked flux at the time of reflow) then resolder it.
    Tools I find useful for SMD work are bent-nose tweezers, a J-tip soldering iron and a good magnifying lamp. I also use 0.46mm solder. That's a big help in not making the joints blobby.
    The best advice though; Avoid anything smaller than 0805 wherever possible. I've done 0402 by hand and it's not much fun. I have also seen 0102 being done by hand, but that was under a $100K microscope.

  • @RaaynML
    @RaaynML 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's awesome!

  • @GeckoLink
    @GeckoLink 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesomesause. I love circuit skills

  • @Corummo
    @Corummo 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good vid, but please accept my tips: liquid flux is your best friend when it comes to smd soldering. ;-) And no need to stick components onto pcb. Just align the component and solder a single external pin to lock it, while keeping it in place with tweezers. Anyway I liked this video. Keep up the good work.

  • @lilbrudder32
    @lilbrudder32 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    fyi - solder paste does a great job of holding the component to the pads as well, and doesn't risk contaminating your joints. SMD isn't to be feared, it's just a new skill to learn.

  • @terenhas
    @terenhas 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    THAT PUTTY IDEA IS AWESOME, WHY DIDN'T i EVER HEAR OR THINK OF THAT!!!!

  • @H2O2FromH20
    @H2O2FromH20 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    That tack is by far way to cool, my friend Chuck uses a similar tack but uses it from the top with a wooden Q-Tip. I have been soldering SMD for 11 years, this video is well done. Collin is correct the newest and coolest components are only in SMD so it'is time to learn a new skill. Its not hard at all.

  • @AsylumET
    @AsylumET 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Iv'e seen SMDs soldered to a PCB by heating small amounts of solder onto each point of contact and then the items are placed carefully on top and then it is all put in an oven that heats until the moment the SMD components drop into the solder but I like your method much more.

  • @Bianchi77
    @Bianchi77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like it, keep it up, nice video clip, thank you for sharing it :)

  • @SigEpBlue
    @SigEpBlue 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably should have applied flux to the pads before soldering *anything*. ;)
    The water-soluble flux pens are terrific, btw. Clothing pins (the kind with a spring) can be used for holding larger parts in place, but pre-tinning the pads - at least the corner pads for an IC - woks well, too; all you need to do is then place the IC, then hold the soldering iron tip on the corner pins long enough for them to seat into the solder. They act like 'tack welds', letting you solder the remaining pins.

  • @JakeSwifty
    @JakeSwifty 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow you make it look so easy.. I'm jelly

  • @pauligrossinoz
    @pauligrossinoz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for that!
    Question - that trick with the putty/blue-tac or whatever that holds the tiny SMD components in place - can the same putty also server as a kind of solder mask to constrain the solder flow as well?
    If the putty can withstand direct heat, then perhaps the whole board could be soldered using solder paste in a reflow oven.

    • @scotshabalam2432
      @scotshabalam2432 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Paul Gross in surface mounting the components and amounts of solder are so small that surface tension from the solder is supposed to pull the pin onto the lead and into alignment you may not need that tack stuff.
      If you are using the right solder at the right temperature and in the correct amount it should pull itself onto the the pin and the contact too.

    • @pauligrossinoz
      @pauligrossinoz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +scot shabalam, I think you have misunderstood my question.
      I already understand the tendency of the surface tension of the molten solder to pull SMD components into alignment with the pads, but that is not what I am asking about.
      As I understand it, the molten solder flow is constrained by the *solder mask*, which is why each PCB pad tends to get fully covered once the solder is molten - the solder mask has been laid down to prevent overflow past the pad's border.
      *My question is: Can this putty/blue-tac stuff also act as a solder mask?*
      Can it withstand the heat of molten solder enough to properly constrain the solder flow to the pad boundaries?

  • @jeroenblommaert4755
    @jeroenblommaert4755 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    for the resistors and the capacitors it's easier to do solder on the board then take your component in one hand and your solderng iron in the other hand. Then place it while you heat de solder. In this way you can place them really quickly

  • @jwuethrich8385
    @jwuethrich8385 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7 years later...with out checking date first i almost gave up on this guy entirely. then checked date and it made more sense....regardless of age of video flux would have been good to use.

  • @4g63gst21
    @4g63gst21 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful video. I tried soldering and LEDS in the past and ended up overheating them.

  • @johnissac7976
    @johnissac7976 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its very intresting.

  • @intheear
    @intheear 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    wooot Collin !

  • @Insomniaclife
    @Insomniaclife 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Music be super fantastic!

  • @PistenBoy
    @PistenBoy 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try wetting the pads before you place the SOIC component on them. That way you reduce the amount of solder you use and makes for a much cleaner job. But as always, practice makes perfect!

  • @rainbowsalads
    @rainbowsalads 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    you can put blu-tac (putty) on a small screw driver and hold the part from above.

  • @Ethernet3
    @Ethernet3 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @BlueBajs lol yh and i think fi you somehow manage to wire it ll up correctly that it doesnt work at 2.66GHz

  • @startreking
    @startreking 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    MAKE more of this!

  • @md.mostafakhan4529
    @md.mostafakhan4529 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the music

  • @renekenshin6573
    @renekenshin6573 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    i made an fm receiver using smd fm ic chip and it works great :)

  • @LordXelous
    @LordXelous 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a tip I use, low-melting point wax - such as from a birthday cake candle - to hold parts in place, this way, they can beheld in place and unlike the tac as used in this video you can use a hair drier to melt the wax and it'll flow away from behind the parts - less mess! And a neat professional finish when holding these tiny parts in place.

  • @adambrian1969
    @adambrian1969 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I put solder on one pad, place the part with tweezers then heat the solder and slide the part into place. remove the heat and then solder the other side.... I do it as part of my job and it seems to work fairly well...

  • @Stratomacaster
    @Stratomacaster 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    An alternative is is to use a ceramic substrate - solder dip it, then place it on an electronics hot plate and place all components at once. With the smaller components it's easier to use a vacuum pickup pen. Weller makes some pretty good ones.

  • @thomashvnmusic
    @thomashvnmusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What does the 1001 mean on the top side of the SMD? Is it the resistance in Ohm or something?

  • @smrmrl3477
    @smrmrl3477 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very very good😎

  • @inventorofmachines
    @inventorofmachines 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dunno the music is cool. Not great, sure, but sets the mood and goes with the Jamie-ness of these videos.

  • @cazyboy88
    @cazyboy88 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    He Gives The videos and The Permissions to makemagazine to post

  • @DesolateDecebal
    @DesolateDecebal 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    You actually don't need the adhesive. Just "tin" the first pad by applying some solder to it, then use one hand to hold the tweezers and bring the component lead to the pad while your other hand holds the soldering iron to flow the solder already on the pad. Then remove the heat, and the joint will cool. Now your component is held in place while you solder the other leads. All SMD components with exposed leads are fairly easy to solder with nothing more than a plain old soldering iron!

  • @OtakuSanel
    @OtakuSanel 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    ye i agree. I worked a fair bit with SMD stuff and the putty just seems silly. It's soo much easier to just tack one connection as you position it

  • @andrewwhite1793
    @andrewwhite1793 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    0402s are the most cost effective for mass production in 2017, but 0201s are close behind😮
    It is better to put some solder on a pad then re-melt it with the component held on the pad, then solder the other end. 0402s are no problem with a bench magnifier. Good luck😀

  • @shardbearer
    @shardbearer 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Check out hot plate soldering. Just put the board on the (switched off) hot plate, all your components and some solder paste onto the board, and turn on your hot plate until the solder paste melts.

  • @randomisoty422
    @randomisoty422 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @legolord14 It is actually quite hard to burn yourself unless you slip and actually touch it for more than a gentle tap, it doesnt hurt a lot, or very much, you might get a 1st degree burn tho which isnt really bad

  • @onionman113
    @onionman113 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    thats actually really cool.

  • @ATOMICWATERSTUDIOS
    @ATOMICWATERSTUDIOS 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    you got a good solder gun can you tell me where to get one like that because mine isnt neary that good

  • @singhari003
    @singhari003 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did get the kit mentioned in this video. However the kit does not have the circuit diagram for the project shown in this video. Can you please point me to the circuit diagram?

  • @leonid222
    @leonid222 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @SigEpBlue i was going to say the same thing lol, would have also been a good idea if the guy removed the flux with some isopropanol so the flux dose not damage the board over time

  • @maor1993
    @maor1993 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Circuit skills

  • @Darksagan
    @Darksagan 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty badass.

  • @qweqpo4224
    @qweqpo4224 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @legolord14 it doesnt hurt that bad unless you hold it on there for a long time

  • @TheSupertecnology
    @TheSupertecnology 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I get the music that is from 4:44 to 6:45? I just love it

  • @Polite_Cat
    @Polite_Cat 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you want to solder but are scared, dont worry. Its just like using a stove or toaster oven. When you be careful and are responsible, you will be ok. Ive been soldering a long time and never touched my skin directly with the iron, but sometimes parts you are holding can get really hot. Make sure you buy a good seperate stand for your iron and not those tiny flimsy stands that sometimes come with them. Get a good stand with those big spring looking things. Also dont start with SMD..its too tiny

  • @OZZYSCRACKMEUP
    @OZZYSCRACKMEUP 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey im not from the states and i was just wondering what coin he used to compare sizes around the 3 minute mark into the video

  • @JauntyBanterer
    @JauntyBanterer 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    magnifying visor

  • @dumle29
    @dumle29 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @legolord14 haha had electronics in school for two years (on my third now)
    and i did burn my self alot the first year.
    yes it hurts and its annoying but keeping the burn under water (as booring as it is) help. its over at evening or next day

  • @dhruvo100
    @dhruvo100 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    how about solder paste? they are pretty useful too

    • @bencooler2003
      @bencooler2003 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was wondering the same thing why didn't he use solder paste

  • @shartne
    @shartne 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    i could weld or soldier anything but but what would be worth making thats this small any ideas?

  • @ChrysostomosChristidis
    @ChrysostomosChristidis 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Mrdogdigger Well, what I meant was, you get quite shocked when, out of all the sudden, you get burnt. It may not hurt a lot, but you don't expect it at all!

  • @Vandwo
    @Vandwo 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't know for this kind of a gum that can hold the smd until your soldering it. I just used some cheap thermal silicon paste to put the in place xD

  • @Juanillo1-1.1
    @Juanillo1-1.1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm interested in building the late Dr Bob Becks blood electrifying device and have no experience whatsoever with circuitry. Can you recommend a forum or place where I might get some help?

  • @baranziah3987
    @baranziah3987 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    very interesting.