2022 Layens Honey Extraction with Italian Honey Press
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2022
- Hello!
It's fall time which means we're diving into the hives and pulling out Honey frames! We had a blast today and it was great seeing the Bees and the work they've put in this season.
Filling the hives with frames in the spring ended up working, sort of..
While the Bees seemed to react fine to the hives being filled all the way with frames in the Spring, no colony filled their entire hive with Honey over the season. So not sure if this in the long run is better than just adding a few frames a few weeks at a time. This year required much less work from us which is always a plus!
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I'll bet your creak is pretty in the Fall going into Winter. Oh that drawn comb😥it almost breaks a new beekeepers hart.😉😅 Ty for sharing your time, Blessed Days...👍
I didn't know that about not leaving too much honey over the winter for them to heat. Great info!
It is not true, they just leave it unheated, no problem.
I really enjoyed this. Like you, I just take as much honey as I think my bees can spare. Great video. Enjoy your honey.
Thank you!
Great video! I’m going to start beekeeping next year in Layens hives. Trying to learn from others as much as I can.
Awesome!
You should get the book "Keeping Bees with a Smile". It covers Natural Beekeeping very well and will get you in the right direction. Good luck!
You could weld a nut to the top of the press handle and carefully use a drill to spin the handle? Thanks for your videos.
Interesting idea, will think on it. Glad you enjoyed.
I ordered and used one of these recently. A couple of comments:
Don’t try to smooth it out with 400 grit. You are going to need to start lower, maybe even 280. I spent about 30 min on it and gave up. I may hit it with the sander every time I have it out till it is smooth, but it really isn’t necessary.
I extracted much slower than you did. I had full baskets and once I got some resistance I would do 2 or 3 turns then go work on something else for a bit, then come back. Not sure which is a better technique or if it matters.
A silicone type spatula normal size is perfect for cleaning the honey towards the pour spout.
I put a 2x4 under the back leg to increase flow speed.
Not sure if it would be beneficial or even OK to put a light coat of some type of vegetable or coconut oil on the surfaces that are involved in pressing (inside of basket, base and plunger) but they were HARD to clean.
I had a LOT of wax bits. I ended up letting my jars settle then used a spoon to scoop out the waxy honey on the top I nto a strainer.
This worked well for a frame with plastic foundation I had. I just used a spoon and scraped the whole thing into the basket. Little messy, but part of a pretty good yield! I have a spinner but haven’t ever used it and don’t want to.
Cheers and Bee well!
Thanks for the advice and cheers to you as well!
Good job
Loved this!! Thank you for sharing. This is our first year so we didn’t take any honey. I have a question, we have one hive, didn’t catch any wild and the nuc we got was langsthroth. I chickened out converting the frames this year, not wanting to disturb the bees too much. Is it worth it to convert in the spring or is should we just leave that hive and only use our Layens hives with swarms we catch?
Thank you so much for sharing so much info!
Thank you for the comment!
Layens is definitely what we recommend after multiple years of success with the hive system. Performs well in the summer and winter too. Being that it's a horizontal hive means you have to work less when handling your Bees (IE not having to lift multiple heavy supers).
You can convert if you want, we don't have much experience doing it but if you look up Dr. Leo on Doug and Stacy's channel you can seem him do this conversion for a few hives.
Hope that helps.
Merry Christmas and peace for you and the whole family. How are you holding up in this weather?
Merry Christmas! Peace to you and yours!
Holding up well, had some very hold weather recently but everyone is doing fine!
Great! Thanks again for sharing. Do you uncap before pressing and do you filter the honey? If you filter what kind do you use and microns? thank you
Thanks Steve!
We do not uncap the Honey before we press it. We also don't use a filter, everything in the honey such as the pieces of comb, always floats to the top!
Hey brother I really like that Italian press. Do you clean it out with hot water? BTW loved the opening creek shots.
Hey 18!
Yeah we use a hose to get the heavy stuff off after using it and hot water to get the bits that are more stuck. We press everything in one day and have it clean and ready for next year by the evening. We always enjoy a nice cup of coffee by our creeks! It's really beautiful after a good snow.
Thanks for the demonstration. I'm starting to switch from Langstroth to Layen's only because I'm getting older and the honey supers are just too heavy anymore. Obviously, the Layen's isn't going to be giving the 100 lb. plus honey harvest per hive like I'm used to. But since I no longer sell the honey a little less work will be nice.
I like the idea that you're not going into the brood nest to look at patterns or disease.
I do have a question for you.... What are you doing for mites? I've heard and read that mites with this system don't really become much of an issue. I'm not buying that claim only because of dealing with mites for years. They've also killed off the majority of our natural hives throughout the country.
Also, I noticed an unusually high number of hive beetles on the frames as you shook. What are you doing about those. You're obviously in the south where they're a much bigger problem than here in the northeast.
To finish. I liked the press. But are there larger ones for sale?
Thanks for watching Bob,
Layens hive's are certainly easy to use and you will notice a tremendous drop in the work you do when making the switch.
We are treatment free Beekeepers so we don't do anything to stop the mites or the hive beetles. We've kept Bees in this fashion for four years and our apiary has grown every year. We started with zero colonies in 2019 and now have worked our way to eleven. We do lose colonies but we continue to use the local swarms we catch and their genetics are well enough for them to maintain.
You can find the press at Horizontalhive.com, I'm not aware of a larger one out there but this one puts in work!
I'm having a lot of trouble with honey extraction. The honey is too thick. Like super thick. And the spin extractors just don't work for this. I am wondering if the press style honey extractors work better for this and when you have thick honey?
Thanks.
I also do a lot of honey pressing in winter, not necessarily fall. So when they are cold is even harder to extract.
Hey Noah,
We used to use a hot knife to uncap the frames and let them drain, but a lot of honey wouldn’t run out so we started using the Italian Honey Press and haven’t looked back since. It’s fun and the pressed flavor is amazing. Good luck!
Thank you so much for the reply.
Would you please tell me where you purchased your Italian Press.
Sure,
Horizontalhive.com
It seems like every year the farm procures more wild hives, along with transferring the hives into nice townhouse themed honey storage boxes. It has also come to my attention upon purchasing honey from the farm there seems to be a limit on how much that can be purchased every season. When is the farm going to stop withholding its delicious honey from the free peoples of America who don't live with the word limitation as an adjective to describe their lives. thank you.
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I lost three hive this winter. Now I know why because of leaving to much honey in my hives. I have ten frame hives. How many frames with honey should I leave in my single frame hive for the winter?
We generally leave our hives with about 50 lbs of honey for the winter. Hope that helps! :)
that highly depends on region and how cold/bad the winters are... many northern keepers leave 100#, 50# wasn't enough even in MO
Where can I get this machine in Zambia
We ordered ours from horizontalhive.com
Crushed honey comb is equivalent to equal amount of honey lost. I love beekeepers who value natural honey comb honeybees made and reuse it for the next season.
Thanks for watching!
I did not lose very much honey with this extractor. Maybe a couple ounces for 20# of honey.
Put a little machine oil in the joints. The extractor is screaming for help
Good advice!
Use coconut oil per Dr. Leo’s recommendations.
Enjoyed the video, thx.
Couple of comments. The bent end of the hive tool is a lever. Put it between the frames on the end (instead of the side you are using) and turn it “sideways” to separate the frames.
Pull the frames all the way out, then give them a singe, HARD, shake, then brush the remaining bees off. The tap tap tap inside the hive is disruptive to the colony.