I love how roads in use are soft-deleted instead of the game just getting grumpy and saying "you can't delete that". I wish more games put that much thought into quality of life.
@@JLogg444 How about 22:07 when he's talking about how easy light blue has it while theres a new house on the other side of the map he hasnt acknowledged yet?
@@Soken50 I mean LA's road system was entirely planned around having enormously high traffic and 'urban islands' that are essentially inaccessible by foot that stick up out of the cityscape. It was designed that was in an effort to resist the urban decay we started to see in the 50's & 60's by essentially always having ways vehicles could get around the poor neighborhoods no matter how bad every single option was. The designer of that road system once pointed out with pride that even though everyone despises it, the cars will always get where they're going eventually. That was deliberate. John did this on accident.
I didn't expect to get this angry watching this game. It looks so simple and cute but then jon goes into panic mode and makes bad desicions EVEN THOUGH HE COULD PAUSE AND THINK FOR AS LONG AS HE NEEDS
The main one for me was the dark blue under the motorway that he literally never noticed, not even once he got rid of it. Witnessing his -1 Perception is surprisingly stressful.
I love how Jon has an option to have the road for the red houses go behind the yellow houses so they don't intercept...and he just decides to create an interception for the lolz
I had this on apple arcade for the brief moment I used that. This game is great, little tip I picked up for anyone grabbing it next week, use your extra road tiles to block open places from spawning buildings where you don't want them. Also, don't plug motorways straight into intersections.
@@Yorie1234 I feel like the lack of undo or eraser in freeways was intentional. I think they wanted a hand drawn road shape, as well as increasing the likelihood one tile would effect another.
Freeways was just too imprecise for me. There were times when being a few pixels off would cause a massive difference. This being on a proper grid interests me more
Ahh Yes. Jon and Puzzle games. My favorite type of video. I bet it will be less than 5 minutes before i get frustrated with Jon and buy the game myself
When I first played this on release I was able to connect houses immediately diagonally to a road without having that weird nub of road pop out the other side, however the next time I booted the game up I had the nub appear and now it wont go away. Little bit odd but other than that I am thoroughly enjoying this game much more than I thought I'd be, I'd love an infinite mode with unlimited pieces and space.
37:00 If there's too many people trapped on the Motorway, just get the Face of Boe to use his last bit of life force to open the roof so they can all fly out?? Or is that too Doctor Who-ish?
Dang. Requires Win 7 SP1. :( Last time I tried to install SP1 on this creaky old machine, it resulted in me needing about 3 hours before I was finally able to break it out of the infinite reboot cycle it was in. :(
I can't help but wonder what the people who live in those houses feel about the orientation of their homes constantly changing at the whims of a reality-warping motorway builder.
Jon, you don't need to put traffic lights at every junction. Since you can delete roads at no cost, why not start with the simplest, cheapest option, then add complexity to solve problems?
Well the freeways video is one of my favourites. Hope for similar insights. And roundabouts. ok, the game doesn't allow as much free-flowing Jon creativity. but he's always doing his best.
I was just telling some friends about how your Cities Skylines playthrough was so traumatic people started donating to ask you NOT to play it anymore. 😂
One day, in a future Fallout game, we need to see a horrendously failed vault with just a few remaining, hastily scribbled notes naming the overseer as "Jon". No further explanation is needed or given.
I realize that this would be a...marked...genre shift; but given the long history of urban planning where roads don't merely react to cities; but can be used to shape them, I'm a trifle disappointed that you can't use infrastructure to get rid of especially inconvenient neighborhoods; or maintain a success condition where some of the motorists are ridiculously neglected so long as enough of the others are really, really happy.
So I think that you should be able to block houses and businesses popping up on a certain place by placing a 'dead' road in the way. So anywhere there is a road.. there can't be a house. So you could make life easier (maybe) with this knowledge?
Diagonals were a great thought at the start, but toward the end, I also would have done a grid. He had so many sharp turns and curvy roads screwing him over. Even ignoring the efficiency, it became difficult to see what feeds where.
@@josepholiveira2873 Well, the game has to place the new homes and businesses "randomly" but only on empty spaces... so, if you lay down a long straight road, leave 2 squares, and another road parallel, then anything that pops up between, is automatically connected. then you don't have a row of 3 houses nice and straight and then the one off by one square. If you wait till late game to try to do a grid, you're screwed by the random placement. If I get this game and play it, that's what I'm going to try, at least. make the initial roads as straight as possible, to prevent new spawns from preventing straight roads later.
I never did figure out why in gh0d's name you didn't build a roundabout for the bottom of the Red motorway going into the Red highrise... It would have let red and green interact without having to have a frustrating (to green) traffic light... That's probably why green was getting annoyed...
The indicators for new "buildings" seems too transient. The blinking unconnected buildings under the motorways is WAY too subtle. While Jon has always had a low perception stat; I can see why he misses some of these things, in this case.
Probably a stupid question, but how do u unlock roundabouts? Have IOS version, played tutorial and Los Angeles, but never an option for roundabouts - only bridges, lights (which make congestion worse btw) and motorways. As I seem to be missing 1/4 of the available tools, this is a major handicap. Help please!
Less than 10 minutes in, and we think so differently. I just want to take control and optimize it according to what makes sense to me. Then again, if we thought the same way, I wouldn't have bought half of these games. I'm just sad that I have to wait for the game to release before I can scratch that "no, you gotta do it THIS way" itch. That said, I really like the pace of this game. It starts to cascade really quickly, and if you're not prepared it snowballs out of control. I think the faster pace lends itself well to trying different things. Like their previous game, it seems so easy at first and then really starts to get you. Man I'm itching to give this a go.
(24:40) 7 clustered dark blue houses, 1 dark blue business across the map, through two major intersections, and an unused motorway. Jon? Jon? Jon! Edit (25:50): He finally noticed. Still nerve-wracking watching this. Edit (35:30): Just delete everything you've plonked. It should be easier to create a simpler system based purely on cluster/business locations, that to modify this clusterduck every couple of days.
Agreed. The greens looked like they were having issues because of the heavy red traffic going through the intersection. And the roundabout he wanted at the exit to the last motorway could have been done if he just put it a little to the north.
Jon's problem was although he created new roads and highways, he didn't destroy the old ones. As a result commuters were still using intersections which lead to traffic.
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I love how roads in use are soft-deleted instead of the game just getting grumpy and saying "you can't delete that". I wish more games put that much thought into quality of life.
@w that can easily be fixed with a undo button
but I wish I could bulldose a motorway and drop all the cars on the ground
Ah. Jon’s road designing skills. This will be fun. For us, not for the commuters.
They will pray to God for death if his past routes are anything to judge by
Edit: Roughly 8 minutes in and everything is going to plan.
@@Taco-TannerVODS I hit the 8:40 mark and the way he connected dark blue THROUGH light blue for NO REASON really made me wanna end it all
@@JLogg444 How about 22:07 when he's talking about how easy light blue has it while theres a new house on the other side of the map he hasnt acknowledged yet?
"In 10 minutes, it will be hell." That is an accurate description of LA's roadways.
“I’ve lost control of Los Angeles and I don’t know how to fix it!”
Welcome to L.A!
LA's road system is a monstrosity on purpose.
@@dashiellgillingham4579 By "on purpose" do you mean "a product of american car culture" ? If so I totally agree, if not could you elaborate ?
@@Soken50 I mean LA's road system was entirely planned around having enormously high traffic and 'urban islands' that are essentially inaccessible by foot that stick up out of the cityscape. It was designed that was in an effort to resist the urban decay we started to see in the 50's & 60's by essentially always having ways vehicles could get around the poor neighborhoods no matter how bad every single option was. The designer of that road system once pointed out with pride that even though everyone despises it, the cars will always get where they're going eventually.
That was deliberate.
John did this on accident.
right
@@dashiellgillingham4579 "eventually" is not allowed in this game
Oh my God, Jon's worst enemy, ROADS
At least they are not trains.
I had to click to see if he'd gotten any better at roads, and I wasn't disappointed.
Safe, clear roads that are never clear or safe?
I was unprepared for the panic of Jon not noticing new houses popping up and ignoring them for 5 minutes.
You must be new here.... XD
And then there was the light blue building, partly under the motorway, that he never noticed.
I didn't expect to get this angry watching this game. It looks so simple and cute but then jon goes into panic mode and makes bad desicions EVEN THOUGH HE COULD PAUSE AND THINK FOR AS LONG AS HE NEEDS
"John, there's a new red neighborhood to the south"
"John, there's a new yellow neighborhood to the east"
"JOHN CONNECT YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS"
The main one for me was the dark blue under the motorway that he literally never noticed, not even once he got rid of it. Witnessing his -1 Perception is surprisingly stressful.
"What is even the purpose of putting a roundabout here?"
Said no British person ever, before Jon.
this needs more likes
it was a roundabout that was not needed that killed him, near blue neighborhood between cyan business. take it out, route cyan behind the blue borough
Jon: Interchanges are bad.
Also Jon: *builds a monstrosity full of interchanges*
I love how Jon has an option to have the road for the red houses go behind the yellow houses so they don't intercept...and he just decides to create an interception for the lolz
intersection* lol
@@lucasgonzales4260 tomato potato
@@bobspace69 you mean just like he could build a motorway for the purples exclusively for the majority of the game and just didn't? xD
It was infuriating to watch lol
I had this on apple arcade for the brief moment I used that. This game is great, little tip I picked up for anyone grabbing it next week, use your extra road tiles to block open places from spawning buildings where you don't want them. Also, don't plug motorways straight into intersections.
Why do I want to see John play a fusion of these two games. You control Mini Metro AND motorways simultaneously
That sounds terrifying
I can only assume they didn't include one-way systems because it would make the game too easy for Jon.
Inadvertently, Jon accidentally perfectly recreated Seattle’s atrocious road map
So it’s a kind of a Freeways inspired game, but Freeways was extremely cute... But also based on Mini Metro.
freeways was a good idea but needed some QOL functions, like undoing roads you already placed.
this game seems more complete.
well yeah it’s based on Mini Metro, it’s the same creators
@@bonelessbones1176 they meamt freeways, which wasn't madd by them
@@Yorie1234 I feel like the lack of undo or eraser in freeways was intentional. I think they wanted a hand drawn road shape, as well as increasing the likelihood one tile would effect another.
Freeways was just too imprecise for me. There were times when being a few pixels off would cause a massive difference. This being on a proper grid interests me more
An interstellar motorway? Game is more advanced than I though.
It's only an Interstellar Highway...
I’m still waiting for the hyperspace bypass
Motorways : the Worm holes of the car world
until they backup and become
Motorways : the black holes of the car world
@@gargoyles9999 Thats not scheduled until next thursday
@@SylviaRustyFae that’s a shame, I could never get the hang of Thursday’s
I just remembered what happened when Jon played Cities. This will end up in pure chaos. :D
"Does anyone remember how the road system went?"
I was expecting that fitting Cities Skylines outro xD
I think it went something like this
Clearly the devs have never been to LA because the LA River doesn’t usually have any water in it
Yep
so its an extra road !
Wow, an Interstellar highway even! This is advanced road management
11:57 Interstellar might be a bit ambitious
...One of the four beasts saying "Come and see". And I saw. And behold!
Spaghetti.
Mini Motorway - The game where the most efficient communities are the ones of one color.
All that needed was a motorway along the top to link yellows, that would free up red, and save the city.
Strange, I was expecting "So close, yet so car" for the title pun but ok
Jon, hire this person.
you dont NEED to connect houses...only NEED to connect business. so if a house or 2 are in stupid spots leave them disconnected
Damn whoever allowed these building permits!
23:31 Anyone irritated by the weird lump at the light blue Y-section?
Ahh Yes. Jon and Puzzle games. My favorite type of video.
I bet it will be less than 5 minutes before i get frustrated with Jon and buy the game myself
its funny because its true
Oh there’s a sudden influx of these bastards. That got me cracked up real bad🤣🤣
Needs more road ballast.
When I first played this on release I was able to connect houses immediately diagonally to a road without having that weird nub of road pop out the other side, however the next time I booted the game up I had the nub appear and now it wont go away. Little bit odd but other than that I am thoroughly enjoying this game much more than I thought I'd be, I'd love an infinite mode with unlimited pieces and space.
You lost on dark blue because you left a house in the middle of the map under the bypass unconnected.
Mini Metro is one of my favorite puzzle games. I'm *thrilled* about this one.
37:00 If there's too many people trapped on the Motorway, just get the Face of Boe to use his last bit of life force to open the roof so they can all fly out?? Or is that too Doctor Who-ish?
I just spent several hours yesterday playing Mini Metro....I will be getting this as soon as it drops!
This went exactly as we all hoped. We need more of this content, Jon!
This reminds me a lot of when Jon played freeways, and we all saw how that went turned out…
We need a one way road system in this game, just for Jon
The way Jon visualizes a city layout is *fascinating.*
I'mhaving flashbacks of 'The road to Rome has been blocked'
"Los Angeles is collapsing"
Yeah most of us Americans realized that years ago.
Anyone else just watching a bunch of mini motorways? Its such a chill game. My recommended is just full of mini motorways now :3.
Game looks quite interesting.
36:58 perhaps one of those 2 pocket roundabouts or traffic lights?
25:08 Dangg I never thought I would be scared of the amount of road tiles he has :0
Dang. Requires Win 7 SP1. :( Last time I tried to install SP1 on this creaky old machine, it resulted in me needing about 3 hours before I was finally able to break it out of the infinite reboot cycle it was in. :(
I can't help but wonder what the people who live in those houses feel about the orientation of their homes constantly changing at the whims of a reality-warping motorway builder.
oh, this reminds me of stationflow; can't wait to play it!
Jon criminally underutilizing roundabout. A roundabout on the motorway exit could have saved his bacon.
“A bridge that can only cross water is better than a bridge that can cross anything.” -MATN, 2021
Roundabouts! That’s a new addition to the game, that’s awesome!
[Yellow housing district]
7:34 Jon...
8:09 Jon...
8:16 Jon...
8:45 oh thank god, he finally got his perception roll
JON! You should have just made a direct route for the yellows to the southern business along the coast around the dark blue business!
“In short, yes. Yes yes yes yes yes”
Understood!
I loved this! Would love to see more!
Just as I finished putting it on my wishlist, Jon says "I know for a fact that some of you have already tried to buy this..."
Jon, you don't need to put traffic lights at every junction. Since you can delete roads at no cost, why not start with the simplest, cheapest option, then add complexity to solve problems?
Well the freeways video is one of my favourites. Hope for similar insights.
And roundabouts.
ok, the game doesn't allow as much free-flowing Jon creativity. but he's always doing his best.
Seems like Jony Ive finally got a new job after quitting Apple. Just look at this gorgeous minimalistic UI. It's lovely!
I just went to buy Mini Metro. It's already in my library! A pleasant surprise.
the real issue was that there aren't any one-way roads in this game, that would've solved everything!
I was just telling some friends about how your Cities Skylines playthrough was so traumatic people started donating to ask you NOT to play it anymore. 😂
This is like watching Blue's Clues trying to solve traffic.
One day, in a future Fallout game, we need to see a horrendously failed vault with just a few remaining, hastily scribbled notes naming the overseer as "Jon". No further explanation is needed or given.
So glad this came to Steam
I realize that this would be a...marked...genre shift; but given the long history of urban planning where roads don't merely react to cities; but can be used to shape them, I'm a trifle disappointed that you can't use infrastructure to get rid of especially inconvenient neighborhoods; or maintain a success condition where some of the motorists are ridiculously neglected so long as enough of the others are really, really happy.
9:09 dark blue house on the top right lol.
Jon has no idea how efficient roundabout are... Jon ! Ask Claire !
Excellent game, I really like the idea of this one
So I think that you should be able to block houses and businesses popping up on a certain place by placing a 'dead' road in the way. So anywhere there is a road.. there can't be a house. So you could make life easier (maybe) with this knowledge?
Jon, why do you hate a simple grid system? Why do you hate commuters?
I don't see how a grid would be terribly useful or efficient in the map as it developed.
Diagonals were a great thought at the start, but toward the end, I also would have done a grid. He had so many sharp turns and curvy roads screwing him over. Even ignoring the efficiency, it became difficult to see what feeds where.
@@josepholiveira2873 Well, the game has to place the new homes and businesses "randomly" but only on empty spaces... so, if you lay down a long straight road, leave 2 squares, and another road parallel, then anything that pops up between, is automatically connected. then you don't have a row of 3 houses nice and straight and then the one off by one square. If you wait till late game to try to do a grid, you're screwed by the random placement. If I get this game and play it, that's what I'm going to try, at least. make the initial roads as straight as possible, to prevent new spawns from preventing straight roads later.
@@jrbutterfly31 I think the game can spawn stuff over roads not being used.
I never did figure out why in gh0d's name you didn't build a roundabout for the bottom of the Red motorway going into the Red highrise... It would have let red and green interact without having to have a frustrating (to green) traffic light... That's probably why green was getting annoyed...
All these roundabouts. Not a single swing.
Thank God there is no one way roads imagine how bad Jon would mess it up
Getting rid of that one roundabout is probably the worst choice he ever made.
i would love it if you played more mini motorways ❤️
The indicators for new "buildings" seems too transient. The blinking unconnected buildings under the motorways is WAY too subtle. While Jon has always had a low perception stat; I can see why he misses some of these things, in this case.
The Violent Competion with Claire in Mini Motorways. When?
Probably a stupid question, but how do u unlock roundabouts? Have IOS version, played tutorial and Los Angeles, but never an option for roundabouts - only bridges, lights (which make congestion worse btw) and motorways. As I seem to be missing 1/4 of the available tools, this is a major handicap. Help please!
I played this on my phone few months ago. Nice to know someone’s doing it better than me 😂
Ooo, I've been waiting for this one. Can't wait for it to come out!
Bought this game because of this stream.
Less than 10 minutes in, and we think so differently. I just want to take control and optimize it according to what makes sense to me. Then again, if we thought the same way, I wouldn't have bought half of these games. I'm just sad that I have to wait for the game to release before I can scratch that "no, you gotta do it THIS way" itch.
That said, I really like the pace of this game. It starts to cascade really quickly, and if you're not prepared it snowballs out of control. I think the faster pace lends itself well to trying different things. Like their previous game, it seems so easy at first and then really starts to get you. Man I'm itching to give this a go.
This game is coming out on my birthday
this is like watching biffa fix road conjestion in city skylines but in reverse
I keep yelling you need a round-a-about at the red and green building traffic light
Mini a True Nerd
(24:40) 7 clustered dark blue houses, 1 dark blue business across the map, through two major intersections, and an unused motorway. Jon? Jon? Jon!
Edit (25:50): He finally noticed. Still nerve-wracking watching this.
Edit (35:30): Just delete everything you've plonked. It should be easier to create a simpler system based purely on cluster/business locations, that to modify this clusterduck every couple of days.
Love this game first time seeing the channel +1 sub
Well this is about the last place I expected to see this game. Somehow I feel this will make me bite my nails more than FO4 YOLO
Seems to me you should use those roundabouts a lot more... possibly at the exits of motorways.
Agreed. The greens looked like they were having issues because of the heavy red traffic going through the intersection. And the roundabout he wanted at the exit to the last motorway could have been done if he just put it a little to the north.
32:03 McCarthy's final words, 1957, colorized
Fun looking game
remember Freeways it was so good
Mini Motorways holy ballsssssss this is cool (and really similar to freeways which also good but still)
Jon's problem was although he created new roads and highways, he didn't destroy the old ones. As a result commuters were still using intersections which lead to traffic.
Take a shot every time he says "Cucking".
Have you tried rymdkapsel ? I think you'd like it.
stream would be awesome for this
Didn't you play this game, or a game just like this, few years back?