Crazy aunt destroys hundreds of dollars of baby items... With the level of meticulous destruction, it's honestly fortunate that she didn't do anything to the twins, too.
That was my thought too. Thank God she didn't. She should be locked up for everyone's sake, including herself. To destroy a newborn's crib is just evil.
@@goldencyclone4984 I mean she does have reason to go to the cops. Literally when they show up let the crazy aunt try and explain how the twins did everythinggggg of the damage. Then ask her infront of the cop how they damaged parts of the wall and furniture they couldn’t even reach or have the strength to break/tear?? Physically and literally impossible, catch her in a lie then have the cops file a criminal complaint of damages. Take her to small claims court if the damage is less than a thousand if it’s more you can actually take her to civil court and she’s screwed as the requirement of evidence to make a conviction in civil court is mucccccch less than a criminal suit.
When I was in labor, I had makeup on. I was in so much pain and crying, I looked like Alice Cooper. My mom, was able to clean off my makeup without bothering me. I don't want makeup on. I want to not feel pain anymore. Fuck the makeup.
I've never had kids, but bein' as how I'm a woman 'n' all, I've heard tales from friends and family. I can't imagine going through non-stop hours of that kind of *work* (remember, there's a reason it's called "labor") with full makeup intact, especially without an epidural. What, the MIL didn't pop a single bead of sweat during her son's birth? My gracious -- when I go to evening patio parties to the summer, half my makeup melts off in the first hour! I guess MIL was touching up between contractions or something.
@@haplessasshole9615 it was probably Hollywood makeup just 3in thick and caked on. The only thing I could think of was get him outta me now. I was supposed to have a VBAC. Wound up hemorrhaging and had another emergency c section. I felt everything cause that pain, i had 2 epidurals and 4 shots of morphine once he was out. Didn't help at all. Then the next day, I felt better. Was only on Motrin after that.
@@yourmother9834 that's different. That's before labor lol. But, that's cutting it very close lol. I can't do lash extentions. I hate people by my eyes. I do my own drops at the eye doctor lol.
For the second story: as a person with horrible eczema, she is not overreacting at all, people with eczema as bad as her can’t just buy cheap products, sometimes it even makes it worse
My boyfriend has eczema and has this one body wash that can get him through the winter. He uses it every other day because it's like 26.00 a bottle. The hand lotion is about the same price. But without it he would be miserable. I wouldn't dream of using those and they're not on the level of the woman in the story.
Yeah, similar problem but I get insanely painful acne and every skincare product I use or have used was prescribed to me by my doctor. If anyone steals them I would actually throw hands given how important they are to my well being
I have cystic acne and I related to this so hard. My acne is only controlled by my prescription lotion that's almost $500 and my insurance only covers half. My partner knows how expensive it is and makes sure nothing ever happens to it bc we share finances and me being out $250 means WE'RE out $250. If anyone touched my skin care I would be ready to fight. I feel so bad for the OP in that story.
Story 4: "You said something so vile after all she's done for you!" The only things she's done was destroy someone else's property then try to blame it on their _children_ all because they have something she can't. Op offered to be a surrogate for her and her response was to destroy thousands of dollars worth of property behind their backs. Maybe there's a _reason_ she can't have her own kids.
6:10 100% I Disagree on that Rating. He stole life-changing medication just to see if he'll get buff? 3.5/5 is incorrect on this one my dude. At least go 4.5/5 on him. Leaving his GF to be in pain while taking HER Meds for this own Gratification is just unacceptable
agreed, plus most (if not any) kind of prescribed steroid is a protected drug under the DEA, so him taking them even with permission could get HUGE fines if not jail time.. If I was in op's shoes, I would have called the DEA and the cops lol. like if ya wanna do drugs, cool I don't really care, but taking someone's meds that they NEED just cause "you wanna get buff" us inexcusable...
@CK George1989 I’d venture to guess that the steroids OP was prescribed were corticosteroids rather than anabolic steroids. The side effects of taking corticosteroids are a bit different.
On the upside, he's clearly too stupid to live if no one is looking after him, so the world should correct the mistake of his birth soon enough as long no one else is dumb enough to try and take care of him. Seriously, even if you are stupid enough to abuse roids, how can you not think to look up the effects of what you're using?
That first story is definitely gonna end up with that piece of trash ignoring his daughter for a long time. And she did nothing wrong! She just came into this world!
@@YourXavier You hit the nail on the head! Some guys have this ideation of what being a father is, and in their minds it's bringing home the bacon and just being a provider. The Women are in charge of everything else. And the MIL isn't helping at all!
OP4: CALL THE POLICE. Also to her parents: seriously, your daughter goes on a psychotic rampage out of jealousy and you're mad at your other daughter fir saying mean things???
she didn't go on rampage our of jealousy.jealousy is fear of losing something.she was on rampage because she wanted/desired what her sister has.this is called envy.though,in most times and use,they are like the same thing.but when grammar/literature nazis takes a look this,they will have call for the SS or have a blitzkrieg for it...
Story #4: That is a very scary level of trauma/anger response. The only reason she would do this is that she lost control of her anger and grief over her struggle to have a child. Disturbing...she need therapy and medication.
Story 1: What on earth type of husband acts like this? He sounds like an 11yr old instead of a husband.. 26hrs of labor and he's so unsupportive and then his mommy really says something so low down.. I couldn't be in that family or marriage..
@@xuanlai6446 Fuck waiting until I got better, I'd be calling someone up to look into getting me some divorce papers to serve the loser who was supposed to be by my side or at least in the waiting room lol
I work as a male nurse in the OR and during a C-section last week I saw the father with his freshly newborn in his arms stand beside the surgical cover to look at his wife's open belly, just peaked by the lead surgeon. Had to ask him to sit down behind the cover again and he did. I mean...he has a *freshly newborn* in his arms and is more interested in anything else beside his kid and his wife. She was just so burnt out that she fell asleep but man....your job as a father in the delivery room or OR ain't that hard. Just don't be a dick.
Story 4: No you didn't say what you shouldn't have. You know your twin didn't do it, and it is pathetic, cruel, and disrespectful that your sister tried to pin it on them. Not giving a damn about what punishment they would face. Someone this unstable should not have kids, I don't care what she's going through, lots of people go through this and they didn't go to their sisters house and destroy an innocent babies stuff like that. And I would sue her to pay for the damages.
Exactly .. at the very least take photos of everything, call the cops and let them assess the situation. And if they conclude with "Do you want to press charges?", definitely go for it.
And even is she is telling the truth on it being the twins. Like Rslash said. What was she doing? If she cannot stop kids from destroying a house from babysitting. Her place will be a nightmare if/when she gets her own kid. Although yes, what OP said is harsh. It absolutely is something that needs to be said. Cause that behavior, with therapy, and potential meds (depending on if its caused by a mental health disorder) can be fixed. And the sister needs to be the one to take that step. But, OP should assess the damage and try to take care of the situation. And also she needs to care for her family, and ensure they are all safe. If that means call the cops, so be it.
she totally should not have kids. one of two things happened there, 1) the kids destroyed everything and she let them do that showing that she is irresponsible and unable to look after children and thus should not have kids or 2) she destroyed everything herself and is showing that she has some mental illness that stops her from controlling herself and thus should not have children.
Story 4: Yeah, it's pretty obvious that her jealousy lead to mass destruction of baby items. As for what OP said, that was out of rage, and rage tends to make people say stuff that they wouldn't otherwise. If your jealousy makes you destroy stuff, you need help
What I don't get is why would the sister do that if OP offered to be the surrogate for her once she was cleared to do so? Infertility is a very hard and real struggle but at the same time, you don't take whatever emotions you may have on other people, especially those who offer you support and more especially to the person who is offering their body to give you the one thing you want. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes I guess.
@@berry_nose My guess is that she wanted the experience of being pregnant and giving birth, too. She might be the kind of person who would never feel like the mother if she can't go through all of it, and she couldn't handle the thought.
@@THEDubbleHelixx just another reason she's not ready to have a child of her own then. I get she wants to sign up for the full experience package, including morning sickness, backache and haemorrhoids, but unfortunately her ovaries require a second party to be involved. It's mad OP mentioned her sister seemed over the moon about OP being a surrogate for her, but then she snaps and destroyed a newborn's stuff the moment she's left in the house to babysit.
Story 5: NTA; parents who think that once their kids turn 18 mean they have to move out and fend for themselves are the worse, especially when their kid is still in school (as happens more often than people think).
@@It-is-me...Melsie I get if the parents set up rent and have the kid buy their own food, as of the home were a shared living situation, to help prepare them for that (if, and only if, they have a job), but otherwise, it's not socially acceptable at all for parents to kick school-going kids out, so those parents got what they deserved.
@@auberginebear Yes, absolutely agree! I completely understand if parents charge their kids board, etc when they get to a certain age. But kicking them out as soon as they turn 18 is nuts.
As soon as they kicked Lily out for begin 18 they stopped begin her parents and became common sperm and egg donors. She no longer has any requirement to be nice to them. NTA. There is no reason why Lily can't explain to everyone what happened and ask for help. As shown in the story, lots of Families would be excited to help a High School-er finish school and set up their life. Many people see that as a worthwhile investment. Those trash don't deserve the decency of begin called 'parents.'
The worst part was this girl turned 18 at the beginning of the school year, and them kicking her out was likely going to make her drop out because it would have been virtually impossible for her to finish her last year. As a parent, I can't even imagine trying to ruin my kids' lives like that.
The 3rd story, the exwife needs to stay strong and hold firm on her boundaries because the ex is going to trample them as soon as he senses she's might even bend. I just can't even imagine having the amount of audacity the ex husband has!
Story 1: He’s complaining about not being able to bond with his daughter when he didn’t even want to be there in the first place. He called her a “nag” for asking him to be there. If he loves his boyfriends so much he can just go marry them instead.
Story 4: What OP said was absolutely harsh, but she's right. Her sister should not be a parent if she's going to act like that. Right now, she needs therapy, not a kid. Any child she has will be born to a mother with jealousy, entitlement, and rage issues, who doesn't think she's in the wrong for destroying thousands of dollars worth of items. She won't even admit responsibility. Imagine what she'd put a child through. Edit: I just remembered that OP offered to be her sister's surrogate, so the sister did this to someone who actually had the stated intent of helping her have a child.
Story 5: It's not slander if it's true. Also, their response is BS because if they weren't bad parents, they wouldn't have kicked their child out right as they turned 18. That tends to give a good amount of people the impression that you didn't really love your kid and you were looking for the first opportunity to legally get rid of them.
Honestly, you wanna know why this "kick you out at 18" thing never worked? Because of the risk involved. Even IF wages were able to help the daughter get a decent living space in a reasonable time frame, where is she gonna go BEFORE that, huh? What if she DIDN'T have OP right? What if she didnt have a phone and couldnt find somewhere to live? What if she couldnt find a homeless shelter? What if she couldnt find the police to help out? What if she was forced to rely on neighbors that may or may not take advantage of her? I'm sure there are good neighbors who mean well, but theres always a risk! Its just pure and plain nonsense that has no business happening. Also, the parents are clearly just dumb savages who can't stand down and admit fault for anything, they have NO right whatsoever to be angry, that's not where they stand, they're the bad guys and their role is to either accept they were wrong and apologize, or screw off.
@CK George1989 I think the car thing was more meant to signify that she wouldn't even be able to get around and work a job. From what I've heard you desperately need a car in most of the US.
Story 2: NTA; this wasn't a healthy relationship at all when the guy couldn't respect OP enough to take her seriously about money and expensive products.
@@wmdkitty only the ones for him, but she mentioned that some of those expensive products has important purposes, like the face cream to help her eczema.
@@wmdkitty It's a product with a medical need, and medical products are a lot more expensive than regular products. You should never cut corners when it comes to your health. And OP wasn't forcing the BF to have no products, he has a job!! If you're making your own money, you can buy yourself things with what you make. You don't need to steal from your s/o when you literally can just buy your own products. If OPs BF didn't have a job then maybe they could look into getting an offbrand or something to lower the cost, but that doesn't change the story. Taking the actual medication used to treat the flare-ups is also wrong, and cannot be justified. His behaviour is all around inexcuseable.
First story: even if somehow, op was the butthole (which everything was a fairly mild reaction) she was in labor pains for a full day! She gets an instant pass for being a little snappy! And the father just left because he was mad? So HE ruined his own chance
First story: OP is NTA. She knew she could go into labor any day and needed her husband to be there for it. Instead he spent the time talking to his "bros" instead of his wife, and basically put his mom in the delivery room by putting her on FaceTime. She's not being a bad wife, he's being a bad husband.
Not to mention a bad father. He refused to see his daughter because he was mad at his wife. He literally took his anger and instead of putting it aside for his newborn daughter, decided to punish her too by not seeing her. “You ruined the chance I had to bond with my daughter!” Sir u were the one who decided to not visit.
@@vanguardangel6912 Sadly that's what a lot of people's friends are like, all this 'bro's before hoes' code BS. It's typically why they're a PoS too, because their friends are losers who want to spend their youth acting like they're 18 still, no responsibility.
Am i the only one who really loves how Op in that last story just bluntly said “yeah…cause it IS your fault” to the a**hole DNA donors😂 I wish more people were blunt like that with a**holes
This isn't the only reddit post that has parents kicking their kids out at the age of 18, what I don't get is why they think they think their above the criticism and backlash they get when they get called out, OP's friend literally couldn't afford to finish school because of what her parents did, and now they cry "lies and slander" dude it's not slander if it's true, also ya lost the title of parents when you desided to disown your daughter, and like I said, there are quite a few post where parents just don't wanna be parents anymore claim it's love as "the birds gotta leave the nest someday" if you don't wanna be parents more power to you, just don't be suprised when you get called out and or your child doesn't wanna be around you anymore
The 1st story: When I was in labor to have my daughter my older sister and the nurses basically told me it’s a privilege to be in the room to watch the birth not a right. If they aren’t bringing you peace & comfort & advocating for you then they do not need to be in there. Also i wore make up during my labor -10/10 do not recommend. I look like a raccoon in every photo with my daughter.
Last story (Lily kicked out at 18): I have always been fiercely independent, and I moved out from my parents home a little after my 16th birthday (entirely my decision). To this day (I'm in my forties) I know without a shadow of a doubt that if the proverbial hit the fan, my parents or my wife's father would put a roof over my family's head, and make sure we are fed and supported. Parenting 101, support your children, don't hold them back, but be there to catch them if they fall. I'm very lucky. There are far too many parents like Lily's, who decide that their responsibility stops when their child hits 18.
Can't understand that first guy. For my wife I don't even remember looking at my phone even though we were in the delivery room for about 10 hours, only time I "relaxed" a bit is when I was asked to leave the room when they would actually make the epidural. Although I think I had a portable game console with me and a couple of books just in case as we knew it could take quite a long time, my little boy was really not wanting to get out of the comfy room he had inside (we were 4 days after the due date). But I can't imagine being calling anyone, or even facetiming with my family at that time, it such a special moment that I'll always remember.
What got me about the first story is that the MIL had the nerve to say that she had time to put make up on and the doctor was flirting with her. Like really the doctor has time to flirt with you while he's working, to ensure the safety of you and your baby? OMG.
I think it has something to do with the time period especially when older folks from that generation are used to saying sweetie or hun to people not related to them. People were used to being touchy feely and semi affectionate towards others like touching arms in conversations.
She sounds like a narcissist. If someone is being nice they must be sooo into her. The rotten apple of a husband didn't fall too far from the wormy tree.
I'm actually upset that the MIL didn't receive a butthole score as well, because that's like one of the most disrespectful things to do and say to a woman in labour "Oh, you're not looking good enough while you're in pain, pushing a child out" and yes, giving the husband 4/5 for not supporting her is fine, but I think the unwarranted facetime DURING birth with the MIL that was initiated by him (why even facetime ffs?), adds a whole other level of disrespect. I was in labour for 23h when I had my first daughter and during the whole time, my husband just patiently stayed with me and held my hand, letting go when I asked him to, because I couldn't stand to be touched anymore because of the pain. He just turned off his phone completely and tbh if he'd have had the gall to not just accept a call from his mum, but facetime her AND let her see me while I'm in pain, and on top of that just let her make insulting remarks in my direction, that would have been instant divorce material for me.
Kudos for the OP in the last story. Saving all the money to give to Lily for her graduation is such an incredible and wonderful thing. The OP deserves all the good fortune of the world for that.
Last story: I'm 100% sure that neighbors, friends, and family we're going to notice that their daughter was gone. Sooner or later this was going to come out, it just so happened to be sooner.
yeah, but they were probably gonna say that she left by her own choice, like oh look at what great parents we are, we raised a child that is so mature and independent.
Depending on where they are they can get into ALOT of trouble if someone reports them, it's illegal in any States to kick your 18yo child out if they are still in highschool as they are still considered you legal responsibility until they graduate.
Story 1: NTA. The husband and his fam are being See you next Tuesdays. I turned off my phone while my son was being born to be there for my wife. Had to be because she couldn't have an epidural due to her spine being fused. They refused to listen to that from us until AFTER the third attempt. Story 2: NTA. That was risking your health. He was stealing. Story 3: NTA. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Story 4: NTA. Sister is lucky because she isn't a mother. Her obvious jealousy got the better of her. She probably took the offer of surrogacy as an insult to her in the first place. Probably equal to the stab after the fact. Story 5: NTA. They made themselves look bad. They were probably abusive too. Get Lily some therapy.
@@THEDubbleHelixx I thought that as well. If his current wife does not survive her cancer, he is going to try to force his ex-wife to be his other children's mother, too. What a horrible situation.
Story 3: op should keep firm boundaries and be careful, it sounds to me like ex hubby is prepping op to become the replacement wife once his wife passes or becomes too sick to function, he said they are 1 family lol
Last story: What the hell did Lily's parents expect would happen when she told everyone she was kicked out the minute she turned 18? As Morbo the Annihilator would put it: "PARENTING DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY! GOODNIGHT!" NTA
Honestly this is how I see it. This seems to be a they just did it and did not warn her. If they had warned her while she was like 17 that they were going to do that then it would of been a different story. Reason being is she could of been working up to that point and would of had a car from that and possibly had been able to afford a cheap apartment.
@@speedbump9299 Even if they had warned her, this would not be an appropriate thing to do. A 17 year old cannot support themselves through school and college stress enough to afford a car or “cheap” apartment - especially with what the housing market is now. What a shitty situation overall. :(
@@GoldenSunAlex Oh yes, it was the MIL, not the fact the "husband" was consistently and deliberately absent during HIS WIFE'S INTENSE AGONY OF CHILDBIRTH. Did you even listen to the video? The "husband" stopped, only to do the same thing AGAIN mere MINUTES LATER.
@@GoldenSunAlex he can’t really be mad about missing the birth because if he did go on the trip he would have missed it anyways. The guys just mad because she wanted him there for the birth. Everyone knows you don’t plan trips around the time of the babies due date.
*First OP:* OP was a _lot_ nicer to her husband and MIL than she needed to be, considering the circumstances. They should be lucky OP didn't rightfully cuss them out. OP is NTA. Twenty-six hours!? Yeah, OP was a saint. *Second OP:* OP bought stuff for her boyfriend, who had his own money. OP's boyfriend stole OP's items despite OP buying things for her boyfriend. Then OP's boyfriend got mad when OP put _her_ things in a safe so her boyfriend couldn't access them. What did OP see in this dude? OP is NTA. I agree with rSlash, OP's friends can pay OP the $800 to replace OP's skincare products. Alternately, they could buy OP's boyfriend a few things. OP's (thankfully ex)boyfriend stole OP's vitamin S?! OP made the right call. *Third OP:* Was there a reason why OP's ex couldn't hire a babysitter, or find a trusted adult to pick up his daughter? OP had no obligation to pick up her ex's child. I will say that the real victim in this story is the little girl. Nonetheless, OP is NTA. *Fourth OP:* Jodie vandalized OP's and her husband's house, making it nearly uninhabitable. She then has the nerve to blame the 3-year-olds for destroying the baby things. OP is NTA, and I hope she cuts contact with Jodie (and possibly her parents). *Fifth OP:* I don't see a problem. OP, her daughter, and her daughter's friend are holding a fundraiser for a good cause. If the friend's ex-parents have issues with it, then maybe they shouldn't have kicked her out of the house. OP is NTA. Also, the friend's name is Lily? Uh-oh...
Story 4: NTA; it definitely wasn't harsh, because whether she is telling the truth or not, she's still responsible, but it's clear she did it out of jealousy. Also time to back out of the surrogate deal, she doesn't deserve the help.
When you have the responsibility, all bad things happening are done by you. Either by doing it yourself or by supervising the person, who did it, too less. So, it doesn't matter, who exactly did this. This sister has shown, that responsibility isn't for her.
My ex husband was sleeping until I finally got an epidural because the pain was so bad it felt like my son was tunneling for another dimension through my spinal column. I got zero comfort until then. I am still pissed 14 years later and yes we are divorced.
I want an update where Lily gets that education fund. That's where OP really hit "good samaritan". Taking her in and literally not accepting anything in return
On the second story, an update explains she talked to her friend, who explained she hadn't realized the products OP was locking up cost more than $10. That's why she thought OP was harsh.
4th story - well, I also think that OP's sister shouldn't have a kid... until she spends a long time in therapy and maybe get some medicine. I would be sorry for any child under her care, because this kind of crazy doesn't disappear just like that.
In the update to the second story, I about died laughing when OP said that her bf stole her oral steroids because he thought it should help him with muscle gain. Like, what is he, 5? I'm not a doctor, I'm an accountant who has never taken a class in chemistry, and even I know that not all steroids are the same! On the fourth story, OP's sister may not have destroyed the stuff. Maybe it was the boys. Assuming that's true, the sister did say that she would WATCH the boys.
I was listening that thinking IF, JUST IF it was a weak anabolic steroid like primobolan, in a imaginary low dose that would do 0 gains and cause issues with his natural production of testo And being realistic, those steroids were corticoids, things ppl that weren't prescribed should not consume in any case, because it isn't the best for the body BCS of the potential side effects and etc
OP1: Your husband didn't miss the birth because you tossed him from the room, he missed it because he stormed out of the hospital in a childish tantrum. F him.
Story 1: It sounds like he was going to miss it anyway because he couldn't get out of his phone. Also I don't care if he was mad at you he's took it out on his daughter and I would point that out the next time he or his mom brought up.
1:28 my mom is like that too where she makes the stupidest comments at the worst time or say something under her breath and immediately go "oh it's nothing." I completely understand OP irritation.
It's just nothing because they aren't the ones that are suffering. To me, they know what they're doing. Do the same and they'll be pissed, saying you're overreacting!!
Story 2: When the guy said "dont trust me" well duh, you proved to be untrustworthy by the fact you ignored requests to not use, refused to replace and now are upset that its all locked away... If you were trustworthy then OP wouldnt need a safe and you would not be upset about the safe being there. TF is up with the friends group too god damn, they all are 1/5 minimum.
One of the things that bothers me the most about story 4: is that the sister intentionally ruined the warm happy to be home with new baby feeling. I say that, because not only did she intentionally destroy all of the stuff of her sisters, but she didn't bother cleaning any of it up. She just left it there as a message like a "hey look what I did to you" instead of a "oh shit look what I did oh my God I'm so sorry". She purposefully made her sister and newborn feel unsafe in their home. That's premeditated crazy, and that's the scary part.
4:35 Him thinking you don't trust him is an understatement and laughable since he is the one constantly breaking the trust. Like you tell him, here is the line and you trusted him for months to not cross it, however he still always crossed it so you are right in not trusting him with this.
Last story: it's not op's fault! Lily and daughter decided to do this and OP shared it. Lily of all people knows how her parents are, so she knows if she was given every opportunity. OP is a guardian angel and glad Lily has someone like them in her life.
My daughter lived with me until 26. My son is 25 and still at home. When they were over 18 and working they paid 1/4 of their paychecks to help their single mom. That’s what parents do!
Lily’s parents DESERVED to be called out! I mean, why would you kick out your freshly 18-year-old child? Because you want alone time? Do they think MAGICALLY people start earning money as soon as they turn 18? They’re just mad that their reputation was ruined. 0/5 buttholes for OP, Lily and OP’s kid 4.5/5 buttholes for Lily’s parents
last story: it's not slander if it's true it's not slander if I say an awful celeb is a pedo and they are one, or saying that one is an abuser and they are one so the slander argument doesn't work cause they are what they are, and calling them what they are isn't against the law
S4: What confuses me is she does that after the OP agreed to be a surrogate for her... it's either jealousy or a brain tumor... because there doesnt seem to be a point to doing it when you're so close to what you want and reddit has shown before that brain tumors can come out of nowhere and cause extreme break downs in the form of destruction
Second story: As a sufferer of psoriasis (think an autoimmune version of eczema), 3.5 wasn't enough. Without the oral steroids, that flare-up (severe enough for hospitalization) would easily be cracked, oozing, bleeding, and possibly even infected with Impetigo or Staph. Eczema is no joke when it requires steroids for treatment, and even less so when those steroids could have prevented the skin lesions that caused her to be hospitalized in the first place. OP's boyfriend is lucky all she did was lock up her skincare stuff; she could've had him arrested for theft and possibly under prescription theft laws. As an aside, the oral steroids may not "make him buff at the gym (couldn't even *type* that with a straight face)," but they do have the possible side effect of causing roid rage.
That last story really set me off. If I were in Lily's situation with parents like hers, I would have done much more than just what Lily and OP did here. I would go full Scorched Earth on their careers, their reputations, their livelihoods, everything. All their dirty laundry I can lawfully expose would be out there for the worpd to know, and I would not care one bit if I was an asshole for going that far. They don't deserve that kind of compassion if they treat their damn kid like some common scrap they can throw away! OP, stand your ground and get the cops involved if they escalate the harrassment against Lily. 0 out of 5 assholes for you.
You are not a good person. What the parents did was suss but was legal. You are going beyond what is reasonable and would deserve consequences for your terrible actions. Get a grip.
@@dudeorduuude5211 if their actions were bad enough that their employer would be willing to fire them over it then that's their own fault for doing it. Not the fault of the person who told the employer. Don't want people to fuck you over then don't fuck over other people. Simple.
I was watching this video with my boyfriend and before Rslash even finished the first sentence about the husband calling his bros he immediately, straight to the point and deadpanned said "kick him"
"You make me look bad by telling people how shitty of a parent i am, how dare you!" Lol nope. If you look bad to people simply because they know of your actions, then you're just a bad person. It's not slandering if it is true.
I cant imagine being such a tool as the guy in the first story. I can't make myself talk over or use sound in vids/games around others even in daily situations and he puts it on full blast while she's in labor. What he should have done is either focus 100% on the wife and if it was too long for that, sit and relax/read or go to the hallway for a minute to decompress so he could be ready for his wife at any moment. While in the hall he could get small concise updates from his friends and family.
also wtf is that MIL Ohhh when I had your husband I was full make up. lol might as well said she sprinted to the hospital but on the way she arm werstled a bear and won then knocked godzilla out with a single punch and everyone thinks she is a hero till this day
You know what also causes Flare ups with eczema? STRESS. I wouldn't say that running out of your creams couldn't cause your flare up, but I bet the stress of losing 800 bucks could
On the last story, makes me so grateful for my dad. Apparently my dad got flack for having me leave the nest at 20 (cause he was that age when he started on his own). However, he gave me several months notice to look for a job, and a savings to use for rent. He still has my back, while I'm in my 30s, he just wants his kids to be independent. I get parents thinking 18 year olds should be independent and on their own, but 18 year olds still have immature brains (frontal cortex fully developes at 26) and need life experience. Ease then out, or help them build resources so you aren't just evicting them with nothing.
That first story set me off. With a flood of bad memories. OP needs to, not walk but, F**KEN RUN from those people. If she doesn't make a break completely excluding them from her life she can expect nothing but mental and emotional abuse from that family. That family will not change.
4:50 I appreciate the "he's taking it very seriously" changed to "he's taking the safe very seriously" because he sure isn't taking her eczema, which hospitalised her at least once, seriously.
god how I wish someone helped me when my family abandoned me similarly how Lily's family abandoned her. dude that help prevents so much tragedy. it's incalculable how much good you're doing by helping this girl. she will see you as a mother if your pattern continues. I am so jealous. I am about to be 31 in 6 days so it happened 12 years ago. to this day I have PTSD and fibromyalgia so severe I am disabled. I would have been ill but not to the point of disability due to abuse suffered in childhood but refusing to help when I moved to another country and then came back to my home town and became homeless was nail in the coffin. to this day I wish I had a new mother, that someone would heal the wound created years ago. I feel such insane relief at every instance when someone avoids my experiences!
Story 5: Dear horrible father, it’s not slander … if it’s true. Also, I never understand parents who kick their kids out at 18. It’s like they’ve been waiting for years to “be free” of their own kid. But then what was the point of having a child if you don’t want to help them?
That last one, OP is just a golden human being. When it got to the point of what he’s doing with the fundraiser money made my eyes a bit teary because he is changing that girls life. The bio parents just never excepted for it all to come back and bite their asses lol
Fifth story: Yes, it's true that parents are not legally responsible once their child turns 18. They have every right to kick out their child once they turn 18. It is also an asshole move, because it's nearly impossible for an 18-year-old to have a plan with a place to go. It's straight up an act of sabotage on a person's life. OP is NTA for stepping in and offering Lily a place to stay and for raising money to help with her future education is just being a good person.
The last story... ya, I think parenting until finished high-school is logical. It sounds like the parents didn't warn her she would be kicked out if she was couch surfing. And she sounds like a good kid if she is working and giving money to the family that took her in.
I mean, what was her sister doing while a pair of 3yo children destroyed a possibly wooden crib that she couldn't hear the wood breaking? Assuming it was the children, that is.
First Story, NTA: Obviously OP’s husband is not interested in the birth of his own son. Why is OP married to this absolute douché? OP is in pain and is suffering and what he does is constantly be a nusiance to OP. No one ruined it but him Second Story, NTA: OP’s boyfriend is a selfish prick. The fact it got this bad to the point OP had to lock up her own stuff speaks volumes of the situation. OP needs a new boyfriend and new friends. This guy literally allowed OP to constantly suffer for his own benefit. Good on OP for leaving this bozo Third Story, NTA: This guy talks about shame when he should be ashame of himself for ruining a 13 year relationship by cheating. OP is not obligated to do anything for this man Fourth Story, NTA: Wow, after OP offered to he her surrogate she destroys OP’s stuff over her petty jealousy?! While OP shouldn’t have said what she said but what OP’s sister did was beyond messed up. Imagine destroying everything and then blame 3 year olds. Also, I’m just glad she didn’t do anything to these 3 year olds Fifth Story, NTA: The parents deserved to be called out for this appalling behavior. Imagine making your own child homeless. People who kick their kid’s out the moment they turn 18 are the absolute worst kind of people and do not deserve to be called parents. I hope these “parents” get non stopped shunned for what they did. “Slander” lmaoooo it isn’t slander if it isn’t the truth. “They given their daughter everything and she is ungrateful” I don’t believe in this neither
Story where OP’s house is destroyed by her sister : OP, actions speak louder than words, even if your sister has done a lot to help you in the past, she showed her true colors by destroying your house (and blaming your kids for the damage) when you were in the hospital giving birth to HER baby… if your parents want to say that you’re in the wrong, show them the damage and ask weather they thought it was caused by an adult would or two 3 - year - olds and if they believed it was the kids, what kind of adult would let them do that much damage… then tell them that unless EVERYTHING is replaced or paid for in full by X - time (whatever you think is reasonable) AND your sister owns up to what she did then she’s getting the cold shoulder and that if they take her side they’ll be in the same boat! EDIT : last story, 5 / 5 but holes for Lilly’s parents (0 / 5 for everyone else involved)
I had to have a hysterectomy at 30. No one offered to be a surrogate for me. I was thrilled for my friends who got pregnant and had babies. It hurt like hell but NEVER would I have damaged anyone’s baby gear! And I especially would not do that to someone who offered to act as a surrogate for me!!!!!!! Finally in my early 40s we were able to adopt our son from China and he is the joy of my life! He’s grown now and still the light of my life. That sister was a VERY messed up woman!
Story 2. "he said I overreacted and that I didn't trust him" ummm yeah, obviously you don't trust him. He didn't earn trust and repeatedly broke your trust.
Years ago, a neighbor was in an abusive marriage. She has 3 children (all grown now). Her husband chased/kicked out all of them. (To be fair the older two were on drugs at the time.) The youngest (a boy) was kicked out around 1:30 to 2:00 am in FEBRUARY! The poor kid had just what he had gone to sleep in and his shoes. He was in a light weight t-shirt and (what we now call) dad shorts. He ran over here. The next day we (my hubby and I) had him dressed in our son's clothes and took him to a store to get him a coat, and new outfits. He lived with us for a few years till his mom manage to kick the A-H out of her life. He still comes over and we count him as our younger son.
Absolutely. She seriously needs to be locked up for awhile as she is becoming dangerously unstable and could escalate to physical harm to herself or others. With proper medical care she could recover. I hope it was only out of a mental breakdown and not just being spiteful. Either way she's going to need to take responsibility.
Last story: 1) it was their fault, they kicked her out, they did this to themselves 2) say it with me, IT IS ILLEGAL TO KICK OUT YOUR CHILD LIKE THIS (And yes, full on illegal. You can and will go to jail! If they are 18 and still in high school, you cannot legally kick them out. And don't even get me started on the parents who have kids work to pay rent before they are 18, also illegal and even more layers of illegal if you then also kick them out because they are now a tenant as well... )
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It's all he does anymore because it's the only thing he can get monetized anymore. It's actually kind of sad when you think about it. His content use to be varied and actually good but now it's just bullshit algorithm fuel with no soul left. He doesn't do nuclear revenge anymore because he can't get it monetized, He's a hypocrite when he doesn't want to cover "support subreddits" But then turn right around and cover relationship advice, he won't do stories about Kevin or tales from tech support because it didn't get the views he wanted dispite them being some of the better videos he ever made. Personally speaking if all you care about is making money from TH-cam then don't be a TH-camr. If you're not going to put you all into everything you put out then just don't put anything out.
@@LadyZubat On top of that, Dabney has a Patreon so he's getting paid regardless. But wait, Dabney has blatantly advertised that he locks additional Reddit content behind his Patreon pay wall.
2nd story: Okay, I had to double make sure I was right on this, and I am. What that man just did was illegal! Those were her perscription drugs, and federal law prohibits that! Wished you could have sued on that because that is horrible.
Story 1: Out with the old husband, in with the new child. Sounds like his side of the family is a huge yikes. Story 2: Sounds like your boyfriend doesn't respect your boundaries. Like, at all. "You don't trust me!" Yeah, with good reason. You asked him not to use your stuff, he used your stuff anyway. He straight up took your medication. Story 3: Doesn't seem like a you problem tbh. He dug his grave when he cheated on you, and then he put you down as a contact without your consent. As far as I'm concerned, he's on 'stranger I spoke to once' terms. Story 4: F*cking yikes, that's gratitude for you. You offer to have a full on child for this a-hole and she tears apart your house. "After all she's done for you." What has she f*cking done? She tore up your house after you offered to have a kid for her. Story 5: Literally happened to my cousins (ex) girlfriend. She came home from school on her 18th birthday to find all her stuff packed on the doorstep. My aunt is stupid rich (Mostly because she's a thieving b*tch but that's another story) and took her in. My cousin and her may not be dating anymore but they have their own place now and are still close. But damn, way to lose all respect.
4th story: I would have reacted far worse. She single handedly proved that she should not be taking care of someone (Let alone a child) but is also unstable. I'd sue asap
Story 4: Nah, honestly, OP's aunt needed to hear that. If someone is unstable enough to destroy someone else's house and belongings over jealousy (and in front of toddlers who were probably scared to death, no less), they should not be a parent. Imagine how she would treat her own child if she already behaves like this.
Story 4: honestly Op is completely right about what she said. What kind of parent would she be when she puts other kids at risk because of her inability to control her jealousy.
Last story: there are 3 criteria necessary for slander, this fails to meet even 1. 1) It has to be spoken. When it's in text, it's liable. 2) Malice. This has nothing to do with defamation of the parents, but rather is about drumming up sympathy for the girl. 3) Lie. It's literally a description of the events that took place.
“He made his bed by putting another woman in it.” 😂😂😂 that’s a killer line right there
Came down here just to say that, lmao. Beat me to it.
Lol, I think he killed two birds with one line.
Get outta here, spammer.
Rslash was savage and on a short fuse today.
"-and now he can sleep in it." is a great way to add to the ÿou reap what you sow."
11:15
"look what your sister has done for you"
*thousand of dollars worth destruction*
"ah yes shes such a good sister"
my literal response to that was "She destroyed your baby's shit. that's what she's done"
Crazy aunt destroys hundreds of dollars of baby items... With the level of meticulous destruction, it's honestly fortunate that she didn't do anything to the twins, too.
That was my thought too. Thank God she didn't. She should be locked up for everyone's sake, including herself. To destroy a newborn's crib is just evil.
I was think the exact same thing. I’m glad she showed her true colours before OP let her anywhere near the newborn
She probably knew that if she did anything to the twins, OP would have had actual cause to go to the police.
@@goldencyclone4984 I mean she does have reason to go to the cops. Literally when they show up let the crazy aunt try and explain how the twins did everythinggggg of the damage. Then ask her infront of the cop how they damaged parts of the wall and furniture they couldn’t even reach or have the strength to break/tear?? Physically and literally impossible, catch her in a lie then have the cops file a criminal complaint of damages. Take her to small claims court if the damage is less than a thousand if it’s more you can actually take her to civil court and she’s screwed as the requirement of evidence to make a conviction in civil court is mucccccch less than a criminal suit.
Honestly, I was expecting her to steal the kids and run. Somehow this wasn't as bad as I expected.
When I was in labor, I had makeup on. I was in so much pain and crying, I looked like Alice Cooper. My mom, was able to clean off my makeup without bothering me. I don't want makeup on. I want to not feel pain anymore. Fuck the makeup.
I've never had kids, but bein' as how I'm a woman 'n' all, I've heard tales from friends and family. I can't imagine going through non-stop hours of that kind of *work* (remember, there's a reason it's called "labor") with full makeup intact, especially without an epidural. What, the MIL didn't pop a single bead of sweat during her son's birth? My gracious -- when I go to evening patio parties to the summer, half my makeup melts off in the first hour! I guess MIL was touching up between contractions or something.
@@haplessasshole9615 it was probably Hollywood makeup just 3in thick and caked on. The only thing I could think of was get him outta me now. I was supposed to have a VBAC. Wound up hemorrhaging and had another emergency c section. I felt everything cause that pain, i had 2 epidurals and 4 shots of morphine once he was out. Didn't help at all. Then the next day, I felt better. Was only on Motrin after that.
I didn’t do makeup but I got some lash extensions like 4 days before labor
@@yourmother9834 that's different. That's before labor lol. But, that's cutting it very close lol. I can't do lash extentions. I hate people by my eyes. I do my own drops at the eye doctor lol.
@@afa13829 yeah I just wanted to look like a woman in the pictures. I was so miserable because I went passed my due date. I felt like a whale
For the second story: as a person with horrible eczema, she is not overreacting at all, people with eczema as bad as her can’t just buy cheap products, sometimes it even makes it worse
My boyfriend has eczema and has this one body wash that can get him through the winter. He uses it every other day because it's like 26.00 a bottle. The hand lotion is about the same price. But without it he would be miserable. I wouldn't dream of using those and they're not on the level of the woman in the story.
Exactly! It's so painful
Yeah, similar problem but I get insanely painful acne and every skincare product I use or have used was prescribed to me by my doctor. If anyone steals them I would actually throw hands given how important they are to my well being
I have cystic acne and I related to this so hard. My acne is only controlled by my prescription lotion that's almost $500 and my insurance only covers half. My partner knows how expensive it is and makes sure nothing ever happens to it bc we share finances and me being out $250 means WE'RE out $250. If anyone touched my skin care I would be ready to fight. I feel so bad for the OP in that story.
Story 4: "You said something so vile after all she's done for you!" The only things she's done was destroy someone else's property then try to blame it on their _children_ all because they have something she can't. Op offered to be a surrogate for her and her response was to destroy thousands of dollars worth of property behind their backs. Maybe there's a _reason_ she can't have her own kids.
6:10 100% I Disagree on that Rating. He stole life-changing medication just to see if he'll get buff? 3.5/5 is incorrect on this one my dude. At least go 4.5/5 on him. Leaving his GF to be in pain while taking HER Meds for this own Gratification is just unacceptable
5/5 is reserved for child abusers
That story sent me into a Scatman-esque conniption fit just from the BF’s sheer infinite cosmic stupidity. Not all steroids work the same way!
agreed, plus most (if not any) kind of prescribed steroid is a protected drug under the DEA, so him taking them even with permission could get HUGE fines if not jail time.. If I was in op's shoes, I would have called the DEA and the cops lol. like if ya wanna do drugs, cool I don't really care, but taking someone's meds that they NEED just cause "you wanna get buff" us inexcusable...
@CK George1989 I’d venture to guess that the steroids OP was prescribed were corticosteroids rather than anabolic steroids. The side effects of taking corticosteroids are a bit different.
On the upside, he's clearly too stupid to live if no one is looking after him, so the world should correct the mistake of his birth soon enough as long no one else is dumb enough to try and take care of him. Seriously, even if you are stupid enough to abuse roids, how can you not think to look up the effects of what you're using?
That first story is definitely gonna end up with that piece of trash ignoring his daughter for a long time. And she did nothing wrong! She just came into this world!
He wants the title of father, but he doesn't want to do the job.
@@YourXavier Exactly. If you don’t wanna deal with it, then don’t do the actions that MAKE you deal with it.
i feel so sorry for that woman. honestly, if my husband acted like that i would divorce him. that behavior is so not okay
@@YourXavier You hit the nail on the head! Some guys have this ideation of what being a father is, and in their minds it's bringing home the bacon and just being a provider. The Women are in charge of everything else. And the MIL isn't helping at all!
@@YourXavier not even that much I bet. He probably just wants his lineage to continue
OP4: CALL THE POLICE.
Also to her parents: seriously, your daughter goes on a psychotic rampage out of jealousy and you're mad at your other daughter fir saying mean things???
Gee, I wonder who the golden child is?
@@paulagoeringer9466 has to be jodie /s
seriously, the golden child is probably jodie
she didn't go on rampage our of jealousy.jealousy is fear of losing something.she was on rampage because she wanted/desired what her sister has.this is called envy.though,in most times and use,they are like the same thing.but when grammar/literature nazis takes a look this,they will have call for the SS or have a blitzkrieg for it...
Story #4: That is a very scary level of trauma/anger response. The only reason she would do this is that she lost control of her anger and grief over her struggle to have a child. Disturbing...she need therapy and medication.
Especially given op was prepared to.surrogate once this birth was over so her situation was only going to get better now.
nah,she needs brutality and extermination...
She needs to pay the damages and go to a ward.
Story 1: What on earth type of husband acts like this? He sounds like an 11yr old instead of a husband.. 26hrs of labor and he's so unsupportive and then his mommy really says something so low down.. I couldn't be in that family or marriage..
Guys like him deserve to get maulled by their pregnant wives/SOs for intentionally being inattentive and insensitive.
Terrifying that’s supposed to be her partner and they completely messed up their daughters first moments
I would be filing for divorce asap after i got better after giving birth lol
@@xuanlai6446 Fuck waiting until I got better, I'd be calling someone up to look into getting me some divorce papers to serve the loser who was supposed to be by my side or at least in the waiting room lol
I work as a male nurse in the OR and during a C-section last week I saw the father with his freshly newborn in his arms stand beside the surgical cover to look at his wife's open belly, just peaked by the lead surgeon. Had to ask him to sit down behind the cover again and he did. I mean...he has a *freshly newborn* in his arms and is more interested in anything else beside his kid and his wife. She was just so burnt out that she fell asleep but man....your job as a father in the delivery room or OR ain't that hard. Just don't be a dick.
Story 4: No you didn't say what you shouldn't have. You know your twin didn't do it, and it is pathetic, cruel, and disrespectful that your sister tried to pin it on them. Not giving a damn about what punishment they would face. Someone this unstable should not have kids, I don't care what she's going through, lots of people go through this and they didn't go to their sisters house and destroy an innocent babies stuff like that. And I would sue her to pay for the damages.
Exactly .. at the very least take photos of everything, call the cops and let them assess the situation. And if they conclude with "Do you want to press charges?", definitely go for it.
Like excuse me how dare she destroyed the op’s apartment and indeed she doesn’t even deserve to have children
@@augustaseptemberova5664 exactly
And even is she is telling the truth on it being the twins. Like Rslash said. What was she doing? If she cannot stop kids from destroying a house from babysitting. Her place will be a nightmare if/when she gets her own kid.
Although yes, what OP said is harsh. It absolutely is something that needs to be said. Cause that behavior, with therapy, and potential meds (depending on if its caused by a mental health disorder) can be fixed. And the sister needs to be the one to take that step.
But, OP should assess the damage and try to take care of the situation. And also she needs to care for her family, and ensure they are all safe. If that means call the cops, so be it.
she totally should not have kids. one of two things happened there, 1) the kids destroyed everything and she let them do that showing that she is irresponsible and unable to look after children and thus should not have kids or 2) she destroyed everything herself and is showing that she has some mental illness that stops her from controlling herself and thus should not have children.
Story 4: Yeah, it's pretty obvious that her jealousy lead to mass destruction of baby items. As for what OP said, that was out of rage, and rage tends to make people say stuff that they wouldn't otherwise.
If your jealousy makes you destroy stuff, you need help
Can you imagine how traumatizing it was for the twins to see/hear a full grown adult obliterating their baby sibling’s room?
What I don't get is why would the sister do that if OP offered to be the surrogate for her once she was cleared to do so? Infertility is a very hard and real struggle but at the same time, you don't take whatever emotions you may have on other people, especially those who offer you support and more especially to the person who is offering their body to give you the one thing you want. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes I guess.
@@berry_nose My guess is that she wanted the experience of being pregnant and giving birth, too. She might be the kind of person who would never feel like the mother if she can't go through all of it, and she couldn't handle the thought.
Its like that villain quote: "If i cant have *insert item here*, NO ONE CAN"
@@THEDubbleHelixx just another reason she's not ready to have a child of her own then.
I get she wants to sign up for the full experience package, including morning sickness, backache and haemorrhoids, but unfortunately her ovaries require a second party to be involved.
It's mad OP mentioned her sister seemed over the moon about OP being a surrogate for her, but then she snaps and destroyed a newborn's stuff the moment she's left in the house to babysit.
Story 5: NTA; parents who think that once their kids turn 18 mean they have to move out and fend for themselves are the worse, especially when their kid is still in school (as happens more often than people think).
I find it so bizarre that is even a thing! I'm sure I don't know anyone that callous and awful that would do such a thing to their offspring.
@@It-is-me...Melsie I get if the parents set up rent and have the kid buy their own food, as of the home were a shared living situation, to help prepare them for that (if, and only if, they have a job), but otherwise, it's not socially acceptable at all for parents to kick school-going kids out, so those parents got what they deserved.
@@auberginebear Yes, absolutely agree! I completely understand if parents charge their kids board, etc when they get to a certain age. But kicking them out as soon as they turn 18 is nuts.
As soon as they kicked Lily out for begin 18 they stopped begin her parents and became common sperm and egg donors. She no longer has any requirement to be nice to them. NTA. There is no reason why Lily can't explain to everyone what happened and ask for help. As shown in the story, lots of Families would be excited to help a High School-er finish school and set up their life. Many people see that as a worthwhile investment. Those trash don't deserve the decency of begin called 'parents.'
The worst part was this girl turned 18 at the beginning of the school year, and them kicking her out was likely going to make her drop out because it would have been virtually impossible for her to finish her last year. As a parent, I can't even imagine trying to ruin my kids' lives like that.
The 3rd story, the exwife needs to stay strong and hold firm on her boundaries because the ex is going to trample them as soon as he senses she's might even bend. I just can't even imagine having the amount of audacity the ex husband has!
This guy deserves it it’s not even HER kids so tell his daughter that op took her from is so freaking shameful
Story 1: He’s complaining about not being able to bond with his daughter when he didn’t even want to be there in the first place. He called her a “nag” for asking him to be there. If he loves his boyfriends so much he can just go marry them instead.
😂
Story 4: What OP said was absolutely harsh, but she's right. Her sister should not be a parent if she's going to act like that. Right now, she needs therapy, not a kid. Any child she has will be born to a mother with jealousy, entitlement, and rage issues, who doesn't think she's in the wrong for destroying thousands of dollars worth of items. She won't even admit responsibility. Imagine what she'd put a child through. Edit: I just remembered that OP offered to be her sister's surrogate, so the sister did this to someone who actually had the stated intent of helping her have a child.
Story 5: It's not slander if it's true. Also, their response is BS because if they weren't bad parents, they wouldn't have kicked their child out right as they turned 18. That tends to give a good amount of people the impression that you didn't really love your kid and you were looking for the first opportunity to legally get rid of them.
also slander is oral (said) and libel is written
Honestly, you wanna know why this "kick you out at 18" thing never worked? Because of the risk involved. Even IF wages were able to help the daughter get a decent living space in a reasonable time frame, where is she gonna go BEFORE that, huh? What if she DIDN'T have OP right? What if she didnt have a phone and couldnt find somewhere to live? What if she couldnt find a homeless shelter? What if she couldnt find the police to help out? What if she was forced to rely on neighbors that may or may not take advantage of her? I'm sure there are good neighbors who mean well, but theres always a risk!
Its just pure and plain nonsense that has no business happening. Also, the parents are clearly just dumb savages who can't stand down and admit fault for anything, they have NO right whatsoever to be angry, that's not where they stand, they're the bad guys and their role is to either accept they were wrong and apologize, or screw off.
I honestly wish kicking your kid out at 18 would become illegal.
Unless the kid is financially stable and/or chooses to leave willingly.
@CK George1989 I think the car thing was more meant to signify that she wouldn't even be able to get around and work a job. From what I've heard you desperately need a car in most of the US.
Honestly surprised rSlash didn’t give the parents the full 5/5 for that. It meets all the usual qualifications for it.
Story 2: NTA; this wasn't a healthy relationship at all when the guy couldn't respect OP enough to take her seriously about money and expensive products.
Expensive products that she should have been cutting back on, instead of forcing him to not have any products himself.
@@wmdkitty only the ones for him, but she mentioned that some of those expensive products has important purposes, like the face cream to help her eczema.
@@wmdkitty It's a product with a medical need, and medical products are a lot more expensive than regular products. You should never cut corners when it comes to your health. And OP wasn't forcing the BF to have no products, he has a job!! If you're making your own money, you can buy yourself things with what you make. You don't need to steal from your s/o when you literally can just buy your own products. If OPs BF didn't have a job then maybe they could look into getting an offbrand or something to lower the cost, but that doesn't change the story. Taking the actual medication used to treat the flare-ups is also wrong, and cannot be justified. His behaviour is all around inexcuseable.
@@wmdkittyand have eczema outbreaks so bad they put her in the fucking hospital? Are you okay?
First story: even if somehow, op was the butthole (which everything was a fairly mild reaction) she was in labor pains for a full day! She gets an instant pass for being a little snappy! And the father just left because he was mad? So HE ruined his own chance
With a husband like that, who needs enemies?
Exactly!
@@OneEyeShadow 💯
But 4 out of 5 buttholes? Well far worse stories get 2 or maybe 2.5 out of 5 buttholes?
I just wonder why she picked the guy to have a relationship with?
First story: OP is NTA. She knew she could go into labor any day and needed her husband to be there for it. Instead he spent the time talking to his "bros" instead of his wife, and basically put his mom in the delivery room by putting her on FaceTime. She's not being a bad wife, he's being a bad husband.
Not to mention a bad father. He refused to see his daughter because he was mad at his wife. He literally took his anger and instead of putting it aside for his newborn daughter, decided to punish her too by not seeing her. “You ruined the chance I had to bond with my daughter!” Sir u were the one who decided to not visit.
Wouldn’t good bros tell him to hang up and pay attention to his wife and daughter? Sounds like some trash friends too.
@@vanguardangel6912 Sadly that's what a lot of people's friends are like, all this 'bro's before hoes' code BS. It's typically why they're a PoS too, because their friends are losers who want to spend their youth acting like they're 18 still, no responsibility.
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@@vanguardangel6912 Good bros would absolutely tell him to do that.
Am i the only one who really loves how Op in that last story just bluntly said “yeah…cause it IS your fault” to the a**hole DNA donors😂 I wish more people were blunt like that with a**holes
You're not the only one RJ.
This isn't the only reddit post that has parents kicking their kids out at the age of 18, what I don't get is why they think they think their above the criticism and backlash they get when they get called out, OP's friend literally couldn't afford to finish school because of what her parents did, and now they cry "lies and slander" dude it's not slander if it's true, also ya lost the title of parents when you desided to disown your daughter, and like I said, there are quite a few post where parents just don't wanna be parents anymore claim it's love as "the birds gotta leave the nest someday" if you don't wanna be parents more power to you, just don't be suprised when you get called out and or your child doesn't wanna be around you anymore
My first thought was "it's not slander if it's true"
The 1st story: When I was in labor to have my daughter my older sister and the nurses basically told me it’s a privilege to be in the room to watch the birth not a right. If they aren’t bringing you peace & comfort & advocating for you then they do not need to be in there. Also i wore make up during my labor -10/10 do not recommend. I look like a raccoon in every photo with my daughter.
Last story (Lily kicked out at 18):
I have always been fiercely independent, and I moved out from my parents home a little after my 16th birthday (entirely my decision). To this day (I'm in my forties) I know without a shadow of a doubt that if the proverbial hit the fan, my parents or my wife's father would put a roof over my family's head, and make sure we are fed and supported.
Parenting 101, support your children, don't hold them back, but be there to catch them if they fall.
I'm very lucky. There are far too many parents like Lily's, who decide that their responsibility stops when their child hits 18.
Can't understand that first guy.
For my wife I don't even remember looking at my phone even though we were in the delivery room for about 10 hours, only time I "relaxed" a bit is when I was asked to leave the room when they would actually make the epidural. Although I think I had a portable game console with me and a couple of books just in case as we knew it could take quite a long time, my little boy was really not wanting to get out of the comfy room he had inside (we were 4 days after the due date).
But I can't imagine being calling anyone, or even facetiming with my family at that time, it such a special moment that I'll always remember.
Especially face timing with someone who is currently giving birth in frame.
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What got me about the first story is that the MIL had the nerve to say that she had time to put make up on and the doctor was flirting with her. Like really the doctor has time to flirt with you while he's working, to ensure the safety of you and your baby? OMG.
I think it has something to do with the time period especially when older folks from that generation are used to saying sweetie or hun to people not related to them. People were used to being touchy feely and semi affectionate towards others like touching arms in conversations.
@@Yumi_Jay Being from that time period I agree. That crap always made me cringe. Also I dont think I have ever uttered the words sweetie or hun.
She sounds like a narcissist. If someone is being nice they must be sooo into her. The rotten apple of a husband didn't fall too far from the wormy tree.
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I'm actually upset that the MIL didn't receive a butthole score as well, because that's like one of the most disrespectful things to do and say to a woman in labour "Oh, you're not looking good enough while you're in pain, pushing a child out" and yes, giving the husband 4/5 for not supporting her is fine, but I think the unwarranted facetime DURING birth with the MIL that was initiated by him (why even facetime ffs?), adds a whole other level of disrespect. I was in labour for 23h when I had my first daughter and during the whole time, my husband just patiently stayed with me and held my hand, letting go when I asked him to, because I couldn't stand to be touched anymore because of the pain. He just turned off his phone completely and tbh if he'd have had the gall to not just accept a call from his mum, but facetime her AND let her see me while I'm in pain, and on top of that just let her make insulting remarks in my direction, that would have been instant divorce material for me.
Kudos for the OP in the last story. Saving all the money to give to Lily for her graduation is such an incredible and wonderful thing. The OP deserves all the good fortune of the world for that.
This is exactly the type of parent I planned on being. Now I'm never becoming a parent. I no longer have the patience.
Edit: typo
Last story: I'm 100% sure that neighbors, friends, and family we're going to notice that their daughter was gone. Sooner or later this was going to come out, it just so happened to be sooner.
yeah, but they were probably gonna say that she left by her own choice, like oh look at what great parents we are, we raised a child that is so mature and independent.
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Depending on where they are they can get into ALOT of trouble if someone reports them, it's illegal in any States to kick your 18yo child out if they are still in highschool as they are still considered you legal responsibility until they graduate.
Story 1: NTA. The husband and his fam are being See you next Tuesdays. I turned off my phone while my son was being born to be there for my wife. Had to be because she couldn't have an epidural due to her spine being fused. They refused to listen to that from us until AFTER the third attempt.
Story 2: NTA. That was risking your health. He was stealing.
Story 3: NTA. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Story 4: NTA. Sister is lucky because she isn't a mother. Her obvious jealousy got the better of her. She probably took the offer of surrogacy as an insult to her in the first place. Probably equal to the stab after the fact.
Story 5: NTA. They made themselves look bad. They were probably abusive too. Get Lily some therapy.
Story 3: NTA; after the divorce, OP has no obligations towards her ex, and the AH knows that.
He's just trying to prep her for being his backup wife. Hope she holds strong.
@@THEDubbleHelixx I thought that as well. If his current wife does not survive her cancer, he is going to try to force his ex-wife to be his other children's mother, too. What a horrible situation.
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Story 3: op should keep firm boundaries and be careful, it sounds to me like ex hubby is prepping op to become the replacement wife once his wife passes or becomes too sick to function, he said they are 1 family lol
Last story: What the hell did Lily's parents expect would happen when she told everyone she was kicked out the minute she turned 18? As Morbo the Annihilator would put it: "PARENTING DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY! GOODNIGHT!" NTA
Honestly this is how I see it. This seems to be a they just did it and did not warn her. If they had warned her while she was like 17 that they were going to do that then it would of been a different story. Reason being is she could of been working up to that point and would of had a car from that and possibly had been able to afford a cheap apartment.
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@@speedbump9299 Even if they had warned her, this would not be an appropriate thing to do. A 17 year old cannot support themselves through school and college stress enough to afford a car or “cheap” apartment - especially with what the housing market is now. What a shitty situation overall. :(
Story one: then tell mil that she raised a pos son for caring more about a fecking trip with his friends than the birth of his daughter
Eh, I dunno. Sure, he shouldn't have done it, but he stopped when requested. It was MiL that made OP kick him out.
@@GoldenSunAlex
Oh yes, it was the MIL, not the fact the "husband" was consistently and deliberately absent during HIS WIFE'S INTENSE AGONY OF CHILDBIRTH.
Did you even listen to the video? The "husband" stopped, only to do the same thing AGAIN mere MINUTES LATER.
@@GoldenSunAlex he can’t really be mad about missing the birth because if he did go on the trip he would have missed it anyways. The guys just mad because she wanted him there for the birth. Everyone knows you don’t plan trips around the time of the babies due date.
*First OP:* OP was a _lot_ nicer to her husband and MIL than she needed to be, considering the circumstances. They should be lucky OP didn't rightfully cuss them out. OP is NTA.
Twenty-six hours!? Yeah, OP was a saint.
*Second OP:* OP bought stuff for her boyfriend, who had his own money. OP's boyfriend stole OP's items despite OP buying things for her boyfriend. Then OP's boyfriend got mad when OP put _her_ things in a safe so her boyfriend couldn't access them. What did OP see in this dude? OP is NTA.
I agree with rSlash, OP's friends can pay OP the $800 to replace OP's skincare products. Alternately, they could buy OP's boyfriend a few things.
OP's (thankfully ex)boyfriend stole OP's vitamin S?! OP made the right call.
*Third OP:* Was there a reason why OP's ex couldn't hire a babysitter, or find a trusted adult to pick up his daughter? OP had no obligation to pick up her ex's child. I will say that the real victim in this story is the little girl. Nonetheless, OP is NTA.
*Fourth OP:* Jodie vandalized OP's and her husband's house, making it nearly uninhabitable. She then has the nerve to blame the 3-year-olds for destroying the baby things. OP is NTA, and I hope she cuts contact with Jodie (and possibly her parents).
*Fifth OP:* I don't see a problem. OP, her daughter, and her daughter's friend are holding a fundraiser for a good cause. If the friend's ex-parents have issues with it, then maybe they shouldn't have kicked her out of the house. OP is NTA.
Also, the friend's name is Lily? Uh-oh...
What's wrong with the name Lily?
@@13BGunBunny nothing's wrong with the name Lily
That uh-oh with for the parents about how Dabney would react because his daughter's name is also Lily
Steroids prescribed by a doctor are not vitamins. It’s much worse than just stealing vitamins.
@@lahlybird895 That is correct.
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Story 4: NTA; it definitely wasn't harsh, because whether she is telling the truth or not, she's still responsible, but it's clear she did it out of jealousy. Also time to back out of the surrogate deal, she doesn't deserve the help.
I think that's a given.
When you have the responsibility, all bad things happening are done by you. Either by doing it yourself or by supervising the person, who did it, too less. So, it doesn't matter, who exactly did this. This sister has shown, that responsibility isn't for her.
OP5: If you kick your daughter out and make her homeless, you don't have the right to expect everyone else to keep it quiet.
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The last one: There really needs to be an Anti-butthole score specially for these situations. OP get 5/5 anti-buttholes from me.
I think according to rslash it would be negative buttholes as he has done that before.
My ex husband was sleeping until I finally got an epidural because the pain was so bad it felt like my son was tunneling for another dimension through my spinal column. I got zero comfort until then. I am still pissed 14 years later and yes we are divorced.
I want an update where Lily gets that education fund. That's where OP really hit "good samaritan". Taking her in and literally not accepting anything in return
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On the second story, an update explains she talked to her friend, who explained she hadn't realized the products OP was locking up cost more than $10. That's why she thought OP was harsh.
4th story - well, I also think that OP's sister shouldn't have a kid... until she spends a long time in therapy and maybe get some medicine. I would be sorry for any child under her care, because this kind of crazy doesn't disappear just like that.
In the update to the second story, I about died laughing when OP said that her bf stole her oral steroids because he thought it should help him with muscle gain. Like, what is he, 5? I'm not a doctor, I'm an accountant who has never taken a class in chemistry, and even I know that not all steroids are the same!
On the fourth story, OP's sister may not have destroyed the stuff. Maybe it was the boys. Assuming that's true, the sister did say that she would WATCH the boys.
I was listening that thinking IF, JUST IF it was a weak anabolic steroid like primobolan, in a imaginary low dose that would do 0 gains and cause issues with his natural production of testo
And being realistic, those steroids were corticoids, things ppl that weren't prescribed should not consume in any case, because it isn't the best for the body BCS of the potential side effects and etc
OP1: Your husband didn't miss the birth because you tossed him from the room, he missed it because he stormed out of the hospital in a childish tantrum. F him.
I would personally love like a 2-hour long video which is just a compilation of these stories
Markee has a ton of those on his channel
Storytime does that with revenges and MC.
Like Mr. Redder?
Vincey does that!
I would personally love a 2 hour long video which is just a compilation of these stories, narrated by RSlash
"I made myself up when I was in labor, the doctor was even flirting with Me" that sent me, sure honey.
Yes, insert eye roll here 🤣
Now that's a self love I wanted to have bottled up to drink when facing problems. Kkkk!!
@@user-guigui01 I was almost confused and had to do a double check on your reply.... it’s a good thing you added that extra k
I can tell rslash is a good parent by how much he cares about the kids in these posts
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Story 1: It sounds like he was going to miss it anyway because he couldn't get out of his phone. Also I don't care if he was mad at you he's took it out on his daughter and I would point that out the next time he or his mom brought up.
1:28 my mom is like that too where she makes the stupidest comments at the worst time or say something under her breath and immediately go "oh it's nothing." I completely understand OP irritation.
It's just nothing because they aren't the ones that are suffering.
To me, they know what they're doing.
Do the same and they'll be pissed, saying you're overreacting!!
Story 2: When the guy said "dont trust me" well duh, you proved to be untrustworthy by the fact you ignored requests to not use, refused to replace and now are upset that its all locked away... If you were trustworthy then OP wouldnt need a safe and you would not be upset about the safe being there. TF is up with the friends group too god damn, they all are 1/5 minimum.
Exactly and take the medicine and the she is in pain honestly he deserves it
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I would’ve told Lilly’s parents “the truth ain’t slander sweet cheeks”
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One of the things that bothers me the most about story 4: is that the sister intentionally ruined the warm happy to be home with new baby feeling. I say that, because not only did she intentionally destroy all of the stuff of her sisters, but she didn't bother cleaning any of it up. She just left it there as a message like a "hey look what I did to you" instead of a "oh shit look what I did oh my God I'm so sorry". She purposefully made her sister and newborn feel unsafe in their home. That's premeditated crazy, and that's the scary part.
4:35 Him thinking you don't trust him is an understatement and laughable since he is the one constantly breaking the trust. Like you tell him, here is the line and you trusted him for months to not cross it, however he still always crossed it so you are right in not trusting him with this.
Last story: it's not op's fault! Lily and daughter decided to do this and OP shared it. Lily of all people knows how her parents are, so she knows if she was given every opportunity. OP is a guardian angel and glad Lily has someone like them in her life.
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My daughter lived with me until 26. My son is 25 and still at home. When they were over 18 and working they paid 1/4 of their paychecks to help their single mom. That’s what parents do!
Lol second guy. ‘Why don’t you trust me when I stole your expensive stuff and refused to replace it??? What’s wrong with you???’
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Lily’s parents DESERVED to be called out! I mean, why would you kick out your freshly 18-year-old child? Because you want alone time? Do they think MAGICALLY people start earning money as soon as they turn 18? They’re just mad that their reputation was ruined.
0/5 buttholes for OP, Lily and OP’s kid
4.5/5 buttholes for Lily’s parents
Final story:
OP: -5/5 buttholes;
Lily's parents: 5/5 buttholes
14:36 This just reminds me of that scene in Spider-Man: "Slander is spoken, in print it's libel". And even here, it ain't libel if it's true.
last story: it's not slander if it's true
it's not slander if I say an awful celeb is a pedo and they are one, or saying that one is an abuser and they are one
so the slander argument doesn't work
cause they are what they are, and calling them what they are isn't against the law
S4: What confuses me is she does that after the OP agreed to be a surrogate for her... it's either jealousy or a brain tumor... because there doesnt seem to be a point to doing it when you're so close to what you want and reddit has shown before that brain tumors can come out of nowhere and cause extreme break downs in the form of destruction
Second story: As a sufferer of psoriasis (think an autoimmune version of eczema), 3.5 wasn't enough. Without the oral steroids, that flare-up (severe enough for hospitalization) would easily be cracked, oozing, bleeding, and possibly even infected with Impetigo or Staph. Eczema is no joke when it requires steroids for treatment, and even less so when those steroids could have prevented the skin lesions that caused her to be hospitalized in the first place.
OP's boyfriend is lucky all she did was lock up her skincare stuff; she could've had him arrested for theft and possibly under prescription theft laws.
As an aside, the oral steroids may not "make him buff at the gym (couldn't even *type* that with a straight face)," but they do have the possible side effect of causing roid rage.
That last story really set me off. If I were in Lily's situation with parents like hers, I would have done much more than just what Lily and OP did here. I would go full Scorched Earth on their careers, their reputations, their livelihoods, everything. All their dirty laundry I can lawfully expose would be out there for the worpd to know, and I would not care one bit if I was an asshole for going that far. They don't deserve that kind of compassion if they treat their damn kid like some common scrap they can throw away! OP, stand your ground and get the cops involved if they escalate the harrassment against Lily. 0 out of 5 assholes for you.
You are not a good person. What the parents did was suss but was legal. You are going beyond what is reasonable and would deserve consequences for your terrible actions. Get a grip.
But yeah going full Scorched would be a bit to far
@@dudeorduuude5211 I agree with you.
It's best just to walk away and never look back on people like that, and just live your best life.
@@dudeorduuude5211 if their actions were bad enough that their employer would be willing to fire them over it then that's their own fault for doing it. Not the fault of the person who told the employer.
Don't want people to fuck you over then don't fuck over other people. Simple.
it's weird how many guys would rather be somewhere else then at their childs birth.
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I was watching this video with my boyfriend and before Rslash even finished the first sentence about the husband calling his bros he immediately, straight to the point and deadpanned said "kick him"
first story: this guy does not deserve to be a father.
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"You make me look bad by telling people how shitty of a parent i am, how dare you!"
Lol nope. If you look bad to people simply because they know of your actions, then you're just a bad person.
It's not slandering if it is true.
Awh it sounds like OPs ex husband isn’t enjoying his new life as much as he thought he would when he decided to cheat. Poor baby
I cant imagine being such a tool as the guy in the first story. I can't make myself talk over or use sound in vids/games around others even in daily situations and he puts it on full blast while she's in labor.
What he should have done is either focus 100% on the wife and if it was too long for that, sit and relax/read or go to the hallway for a minute to decompress so he could be ready for his wife at any moment. While in the hall he could get small concise updates from his friends and family.
also wtf is that MIL Ohhh when I had your husband I was full make up. lol might as well said she sprinted to the hospital but on the way she arm werstled a bear and won then knocked godzilla out with a single punch and everyone thinks she is a hero till this day
You know what also causes Flare ups with eczema? STRESS. I wouldn't say that running out of your creams couldn't cause your flare up, but I bet the stress of losing 800 bucks could
On the last story, makes me so grateful for my dad.
Apparently my dad got flack for having me leave the nest at 20 (cause he was that age when he started on his own). However, he gave me several months notice to look for a job, and a savings to use for rent. He still has my back, while I'm in my 30s, he just wants his kids to be independent.
I get parents thinking 18 year olds should be independent and on their own, but 18 year olds still have immature brains (frontal cortex fully developes at 26) and need life experience. Ease then out, or help them build resources so you aren't just evicting them with nothing.
Rslash when he explains how not to be a bad parent: well, we did it boys, the bad parents are no more
That first story set me off. With a flood of bad memories.
OP needs to, not walk but, F**KEN RUN from those people. If she doesn't make a break completely excluding them from her life she can expect nothing but mental and emotional abuse from that family.
That family will not change.
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First story:
That marriage isn’t going to last much longer. Good lord
4:50 I appreciate the "he's taking it very seriously" changed to "he's taking the safe very seriously" because he sure isn't taking her eczema, which hospitalised her at least once, seriously.
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god how I wish someone helped me when my family abandoned me similarly how Lily's family abandoned her. dude that help prevents so much tragedy. it's incalculable how much good you're doing by helping this girl. she will see you as a mother if your pattern continues. I am so jealous. I am about to be 31 in 6 days so it happened 12 years ago. to this day I have PTSD and fibromyalgia so severe I am disabled. I would have been ill but not to the point of disability due to abuse suffered in childhood but refusing to help when I moved to another country and then came back to my home town and became homeless was nail in the coffin. to this day I wish I had a new mother, that someone would heal the wound created years ago. I feel such insane relief at every instance when someone avoids my experiences!
Story 5: Dear horrible father, it’s not slander … if it’s true.
Also, I never understand parents who kick their kids out at 18. It’s like they’ve been waiting for years to “be free” of their own kid. But then what was the point of having a child if you don’t want to help them?
That last one, OP is just a golden human being. When it got to the point of what he’s doing with the fundraiser money made my eyes a bit teary because he is changing that girls life. The bio parents just never excepted for it all to come back and bite their asses lol
Fifth story: Yes, it's true that parents are not legally responsible once their child turns 18. They have every right to kick out their child once they turn 18. It is also an asshole move, because it's nearly impossible for an 18-year-old to have a plan with a place to go. It's straight up an act of sabotage on a person's life. OP is NTA for stepping in and offering Lily a place to stay and for raising money to help with her future education is just being a good person.
The last story... ya, I think parenting until finished high-school is logical. It sounds like the parents didn't warn her she would be kicked out if she was couch surfing. And she sounds like a good kid if she is working and giving money to the family that took her in.
First story, OP should never have had a baby, she already had one. I’m honestly speechless.
I mean, what was her sister doing while a pair of 3yo children destroyed a possibly wooden crib that she couldn't hear the wood breaking? Assuming it was the children, that is.
Third story : Oof, yeah that ex husband is a horrible father.
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First Story, NTA: Obviously OP’s husband is not interested in the birth of his own son. Why is OP married to this absolute douché? OP is in pain and is suffering and what he does is constantly be a nusiance to OP. No one ruined it but him
Second Story, NTA: OP’s boyfriend is a selfish prick. The fact it got this bad to the point OP had to lock up her own stuff speaks volumes of the situation. OP needs a new boyfriend and new friends. This guy literally allowed OP to constantly suffer for his own benefit. Good on OP for leaving this bozo
Third Story, NTA: This guy talks about shame when he should be ashame of himself for ruining a 13 year relationship by cheating. OP is not obligated to do anything for this man
Fourth Story, NTA: Wow, after OP offered to he her surrogate she destroys OP’s stuff over her petty jealousy?! While OP shouldn’t have said what she said but what OP’s sister did was beyond messed up. Imagine destroying everything and then blame 3 year olds. Also, I’m just glad she didn’t do anything to these 3 year olds
Fifth Story, NTA: The parents deserved to be called out for this appalling behavior. Imagine making your own child homeless. People who kick their kid’s out the moment they turn 18 are the absolute worst kind of people and do not deserve to be called parents. I hope these “parents” get non stopped shunned for what they did. “Slander” lmaoooo it isn’t slander if it isn’t the truth. “They given their daughter everything and she is ungrateful” I don’t believe in this neither
Story where OP’s house is destroyed by her sister : OP, actions speak louder than words, even if your sister has done a lot to help you in the past, she showed her true colors by destroying your house (and blaming your kids for the damage) when you were in the hospital giving birth to HER baby… if your parents want to say that you’re in the wrong, show them the damage and ask weather they thought it was caused by an adult would or two 3 - year - olds and if they believed it was the kids, what kind of adult would let them do that much damage… then tell them that unless EVERYTHING is replaced or paid for in full by X - time (whatever you think is reasonable) AND your sister owns up to what she did then she’s getting the cold shoulder and that if they take her side they’ll be in the same boat!
EDIT : last story, 5 / 5 but holes for Lilly’s parents (0 / 5 for everyone else involved)
It wasn't sisters baby, it was OP's baby, the next child was going to be surrogate. But damn, the lack of gratitude is real in that sister.
I had to have a hysterectomy at 30. No one offered to be a surrogate for me. I was thrilled for my friends who got pregnant and had babies. It hurt like hell but NEVER would I have damaged anyone’s baby gear! And I especially would not do that to someone who offered to act as a surrogate for me!!!!!!!
Finally in my early 40s we were able to adopt our son from China and he is the joy of my life! He’s grown now and still the light of my life. That sister was a VERY messed up woman!
Story 2. "he said I overreacted and that I didn't trust him" ummm yeah, obviously you don't trust him. He didn't earn trust and repeatedly broke your trust.
Years ago, a neighbor was in an abusive marriage. She has 3 children (all grown now). Her husband chased/kicked out all of them. (To be fair the older two were on drugs at the time.) The youngest (a boy) was kicked out around 1:30 to 2:00 am in FEBRUARY! The poor kid had just what he had gone to sleep in and his shoes. He was in a light weight t-shirt and (what we now call) dad shorts. He ran over here. The next day we (my hubby and I) had him dressed in our son's clothes and took him to a store to get him a coat, and new outfits. He lived with us for a few years till his mom manage to kick the A-H out of her life. He still comes over and we count him as our younger son.
Thank you for helping him
@@SoManyRandomRamblings He was a kid, I couldn't just kick him out in the middle of winter.
Just curious, the story about the sister destroying the baby stuff, can’t op file a police report and an insurance report?
Absolutely. She seriously needs to be locked up for awhile as she is becoming dangerously unstable and could escalate to physical harm to herself or others. With proper medical care she could recover. I hope it was only out of a mental breakdown and not just being spiteful. Either way she's going to need to take responsibility.
Last story: 1) it was their fault, they kicked her out, they did this to themselves
2) say it with me, IT IS ILLEGAL TO KICK OUT YOUR CHILD LIKE THIS
(And yes, full on illegal. You can and will go to jail! If they are 18 and still in high school, you cannot legally kick them out. And don't even get me started on the parents who have kids work to pay rent before they are 18, also illegal and even more layers of illegal if you then also kick them out because they are now a tenant as well... )
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So much AITA content. I love it for us all.
I really love Stories about Kevin. But those are few and far between.
Same
It's all he does anymore because it's the only thing he can get monetized anymore. It's actually kind of sad when you think about it. His content use to be varied and actually good but now it's just bullshit algorithm fuel with no soul left.
He doesn't do nuclear revenge anymore because he can't get it monetized, He's a hypocrite when he doesn't want to cover "support subreddits" But then turn right around and cover relationship advice, he won't do stories about Kevin or tales from tech support because it didn't get the views he wanted dispite them being some of the better videos he ever made. Personally speaking if all you care about is making money from TH-cam then don't be a TH-camr. If you're not going to put you all into everything you put out then just don't put anything out.
@@LadyZubat
On top of that, Dabney has a Patreon so he's getting paid regardless. But wait, Dabney has blatantly advertised that he locks additional Reddit content behind his Patreon pay wall.
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2nd story: Okay, I had to double make sure I was right on this, and I am. What that man just did was illegal! Those were her perscription drugs, and federal law prohibits that! Wished you could have sued on that because that is horrible.
Story 1: Out with the old husband, in with the new child. Sounds like his side of the family is a huge yikes.
Story 2: Sounds like your boyfriend doesn't respect your boundaries. Like, at all. "You don't trust me!" Yeah, with good reason. You asked him not to use your stuff, he used your stuff anyway. He straight up took your medication.
Story 3: Doesn't seem like a you problem tbh. He dug his grave when he cheated on you, and then he put you down as a contact without your consent. As far as I'm concerned, he's on 'stranger I spoke to once' terms.
Story 4: F*cking yikes, that's gratitude for you. You offer to have a full on child for this a-hole and she tears apart your house. "After all she's done for you." What has she f*cking done? She tore up your house after you offered to have a kid for her.
Story 5: Literally happened to my cousins (ex) girlfriend. She came home from school on her 18th birthday to find all her stuff packed on the doorstep. My aunt is stupid rich (Mostly because she's a thieving b*tch but that's another story) and took her in. My cousin and her may not be dating anymore but they have their own place now and are still close. But damn, way to lose all respect.
Second story I would’ve said yeah! I don’t trust you I set my boundaries and you AREN’T LISTENING
I would have said no shit I don't trust a thief.
Ya gotta love all of those parents that throw their kids out on their 18th birthday, and are furious when the truth comes out
4th story: I would have reacted far worse. She single handedly proved that she should not be taking care of someone (Let alone a child) but is also unstable. I'd sue asap
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Story 4: Nah, honestly, OP's aunt needed to hear that. If someone is unstable enough to destroy someone else's house and belongings over jealousy (and in front of toddlers who were probably scared to death, no less), they should not be a parent. Imagine how she would treat her own child if she already behaves like this.
Story 4: honestly Op is completely right about what she said. What kind of parent would she be when she puts other kids at risk because of her inability to control her jealousy.
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Last story: there are 3 criteria necessary for slander, this fails to meet even 1.
1) It has to be spoken. When it's in text, it's liable.
2) Malice. This has nothing to do with defamation of the parents, but rather is about drumming up sympathy for the girl.
3) Lie. It's literally a description of the events that took place.
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