Glad there's one review from our very own here in the Ph. I just recently bought it and so happy of the decision I made, I just had 75% kboards and I'm loving the 65 layout. Still tinkering and choosing the right switches to go with it.
@@myke6972 yes it gets decently bright. The only reason it doesn't show clearly is because the switches I used didn't have clear / see-through top housings
Just got my Sugar 65 in today and it's very nice! I agree with the case feeling somewhat chalky but I do like the heft. I initially put WS Morandi in it but with all the included foam it was almost muted with those switches. I pulled them and put in some Akko Cream Blue Pros (my piano pros are going in my GMMK Pro to liven it up) and it sounds amazing with those switches, very similar to your build with the Piano Pros. For this price this is an amazing little keyboard... if only it had QMK/VIA. Thank you for the build guide and review, it definitely pushed me to get mine on order and helped with the modification process!
I own a Leobog Hi75 and let me tell you, these boards in this particular price range, is an absolute steal. The Hi75 is my first ever alu kit and I don't regret buying it. Now, I am thinking of updating my CIY GAS67 for this one, cause why not! It is definately an upgrade over the GAS67. Nice vdo btw. Keep up the good work.
what do you think of this kit over the Hi75? I am stuck between choosing between the two. The Sugar65 looks better, but the Hi75 sounds better. Can you give me some help?
Bought the Lucky65 v2, kahtsy keycaps and 70 baby kangaroo switches direct from Weikav, waiting for delivery, didn't hear about the Sugar65 till after my purchase, thou they look like similar boards...thank you!
I dont think so, there are flaws with this budget aluminum board. Opposite works with the higher expensive board they meant to have a perfect finish of paint, as well as its availability. But i do agree their profit margin is significantly higher compared to cheap alu. But thats how the market works
@@HarryLorenzo their build quality is difference, their availability is difference. People who designed or company who produced it gives a higher value as well, if you think that isn’t justifiable, it means you’re not the target market of premium boards. I have tried 800 usd board in person during a event, id say now i know why some people are willing to spend that much money to a keyboard
I have Womier S-K71 and it's great, but this one supports split spacebar which is very important, as I have to type a lot of my national characters using right alt. It's cumbersome without split keyboatltd. So far I managed to go around it with alice layout, but alice keebs are much larger...
Somewhat this looks identical to Xin Meng's M66? Which is the watered down A66 from them. All these are from the same OEM factory anyway haha. I own the Shoko color A66. It's very good value for what it is offering!
Will definitely consider checking the A66 out when I get a little bit of free time. Right now I'm absolutely swamped with things to review so I can't make any promises at the moment. At first glance though, the A66 does look like it shares a lot of similarities with this Sugar65 but more so the M71. Could make for an interesting video for sure.
Yes I kept every part stock. Didn't remove or modify the board whatsoever to make it sound how it would if anyone were to just pop on switches and keycaps.
how do I work the multimedia shortcuts? the manual says its "FN+F8" to play/pause but pressing FN+8 just acts like a single press of F8 so nothing happens
65% vs. 75% (both with knobs) Context : Its either a barebone kit 65% or a prebuilt 75% The barebone is Sugar65 (Aluminium Case) and the prebuilt is Rover84 V4 (Polycarbonate Case) Here's the thing, i already bought a set of keycaps and that both will have the same range of money spendings, i live in Indonesia and i can't import stuff because i hate the import tax I will be doing informatics as my college study
Is this the R2 version of the keyboard? I watched other people's videos on this board but your video is the only one that appears to have the engraving.
Hey! Thanks so much for this review, it is very useful. Should I buy the Leobog HI75 or this? I wont be modding much. I found this on a US site and its the same price as the leobog hi75.
Pre-lubed stabilizers, pre-lubed switches, no modding. And this is called "custom". Okay, cool. Well, what was the problem with buying Xinmeng A66 / M71?
@@gameboyv1790 I went full tri-mode on the Neo with the Chroma plate so it wasn't cheap, at least not to me but it sounds amazing and is my new daily driver with Oil Kings and PBTfans Sabarushi key caps - very thocky actually but lively at the same time. My Sugar65 came today. Merkeeps is right about the chalky finish but otherwise the board is super solid. Not as nice as the Neo65 but was like 1/3 the price.
Will definitely keep that A66 in mind! I did some research on it while I was working on this video and there's definitely some similarities to this board. It does also share alot of design DNA from the Xinmeng M71 that's for sure.
@@trisnasaart3187 there were so many feedback about its poor build quality so i also canceled. Many bought it said there is no foam and unmatched color But i mean, its the cheapest aluminum out there, you shouldn't expect much. The a66 doesnt looking promising either with the same issue about its uneven color
A pc plate (polycarbonate) usually has a deeper sound signature and some flex and a fr4 plate is kinda something between a pc plate and a aluminium plate
Full transparency, I have not personally ordered from the linked AliExpress store. I did want to add an AliExpress / international vendor option to not limit the board coverage to just my Philippine audience. I did however check a few Sugar65 listings on the site and decided to link a vendor with the most legitimate sales of other mechanical keyboard products. So it's really more of a "buy at your own risk" link.
no point in getting GMK67 if you have access to rakk pirah plus, its basically GMK67 with extra top cover, VIA compatible, with keycaps and switches already for almost the same price
@@DvineDragoon Yes unfortunately it is wired only, however the people in the comments have mentioned the Xinmeng A66 being a good wireless alternative / counterpart for this board. Do consider checking that one out hehe.
** Opens wallet **Ah shit here we go again... Btw, do you know if there's a difference between the R1 and R2 of this board? Is it just the Sugar engraving at the back?
This board is absolute lason, but i'll wait for now. Maybe another board will overtake it in the value proposition. Really need software even if it's just proprietary for that price.
Glad there's one review from our very own here in the Ph. I just recently bought it and so happy of the decision I made, I just had 75% kboards and I'm loving the 65 layout. Still tinkering and choosing the right switches to go with it.
The beauty of hot-swap is you can go nuts on trying out as many switches as you want hehe
Does it have bright rgb lighting?
@@myke6972 yes it gets decently bright. The only reason it doesn't show clearly is because the switches I used didn't have clear / see-through top housings
Was waiting for this keyboard review, just ordered the keyboard looking forward for it! Gonna be my 1st aluminum keyboard.
Great choice for a first aluminum board!
Let me know how your build goes, would love to hear other sound tests of this board :)
Just got my Sugar 65 in today and it's very nice! I agree with the case feeling somewhat chalky but I do like the heft. I initially put WS Morandi in it but with all the included foam it was almost muted with those switches. I pulled them and put in some Akko Cream Blue Pros (my piano pros are going in my GMMK Pro to liven it up) and it sounds amazing with those switches, very similar to your build with the Piano Pros. For this price this is an amazing little keyboard... if only it had QMK/VIA. Thank you for the build guide and review, it definitely pushed me to get mine on order and helped with the modification process!
Ngl I thought this video is using text to speech until you pronounced "pesos". You've got a good voice, kuya
I own a Leobog Hi75 and let me tell you, these boards in this particular price range, is an absolute steal.
The Hi75 is my first ever alu kit and I don't regret buying it. Now, I am thinking of updating my CIY GAS67 for this one, cause why not! It is definately an upgrade over the GAS67. Nice vdo btw. Keep up the good work.
what do you think of this kit over the Hi75? I am stuck between choosing between the two. The Sugar65 looks better, but the Hi75 sounds better. Can you give me some help?
@@dshifty_ get both then!!!
@@dshifty_If you like the sound profile better, and you need the tkl layout, there's no reason not to got Hi75.
@@dshifty_At the end of the day its a matter of preference
Bought the Lucky65 v2, kahtsy keycaps and 70 baby kangaroo switches direct from Weikav, waiting for delivery, didn't hear about the Sugar65 till after my purchase, thou they look like similar boards...thank you!
as someone who has wanted to make a custom keyboard but is on a very tight budget this seems like an extremely good deal
whats ur budget
Anybody experiencing creaking/squeezing sound when you press down around left alt and spacebar?
what im really interested though is the split spacebar compatibility. haven't tried that in an aluminum board or any board for that matter
Dang! The keycaps are worth more than the actual keyboard! As usual, great review!
I got one for myself as well 53$ for a FR4 plate aluminum keyboard is hard to beat.
This should be the proper price for aluminum keyboards, not $1000, not $500, not even $100.
Madafakas are scamming these idiots for ages and they don't even care 😂
I dont think so, there are flaws with this budget aluminum board. Opposite works with the higher expensive board they meant to have a perfect finish of paint, as well as its availability. But i do agree their profit margin is significantly higher compared to cheap alu. But thats how the market works
Lol for this quality yeah, not really much to say about it tho as someone who has high end boards and budget
@@Sai-boards $500 difference for a paint job is too much.
@@HarryLorenzo their build quality is difference, their availability is difference. People who designed or company who produced it gives a higher value as well, if you think that isn’t justifiable, it means you’re not the target market of premium boards. I have tried 800 usd board in person during a event, id say now i know why some people are willing to spend that much money to a keyboard
I have Womier S-K71 and it's great, but this one supports split spacebar which is very important, as I have to type a lot of my national characters using right alt. It's cumbersome without split keyboatltd. So far I managed to go around it with alice layout, but alice keebs are much larger...
That's sweet!
Somewhat this looks identical to Xin Meng's M66? Which is the watered down A66 from them. All these are from the same OEM factory anyway haha.
I own the Shoko color A66. It's very good value for what it is offering!
Will definitely consider checking the A66 out when I get a little bit of free time.
Right now I'm absolutely swamped with things to review so I can't make any promises at the moment.
At first glance though, the A66 does look like it shares a lot of similarities with this Sugar65 but more so the M71.
Could make for an interesting video for sure.
@@Merkeebs Thanks my man. Will be staying in tune!
If there actually is a good software for this board, then that’s a lot of custom kit for just $53!!! I recently ordered a Monsgeek M1W
Whats the software call of how can i get it ?
did you find it please? im struggling finding it so hard @@omega-xis7760
Finally an English review. Do you use the film under the ixpe sheet on the final build?
Yes I kept every part stock. Didn't remove or modify the board whatsoever to make it sound how it would if anyone were to just pop on switches and keycaps.
@@Merkeebs got it! might have to check if the sound profile will change when I got the board! great review as always!
Finally sugar65 review!
how do I work the multimedia shortcuts? the manual says its "FN+F8" to play/pause but pressing FN+8 just acts like a single press of F8 so nothing happens
Whats better xinmeng a66, xinmeng m71 or sugar65
I cant seem to find any software for this keyboard, can you share the link?
Love the build! What mousepad is that on your desk if you wouldn't mind sharing??
It's a dark grey linen mat from KBDFans
Hey Merk! Great review! How would you compare this keeb to the LEOBONG Hi75? (apart from the layout)
65% vs. 75% (both with knobs)
Context :
Its either a barebone kit 65% or a prebuilt 75%
The barebone is Sugar65 (Aluminium Case) and the prebuilt is Rover84 V4 (Polycarbonate Case)
Here's the thing, i already bought a set of keycaps and that both will have the same range of money spendings, i live in Indonesia and i can't import stuff because i hate the import tax
I will be doing informatics as my college study
the budget market is getting insane. wow
Is this the R2 version of the keyboard? I watched other people's videos on this board but your video is the only one that appears to have the engraving.
They probably used the same molds as the Monsgeeks?
thanks for the video!!
Thank YOU for watching~
Can you do a soundest with different configs for the foam? Foamless, case foam only etc
Appreciate the content!
Hey! Thanks so much for this review, it is very useful. Should I buy the Leobog HI75 or this? I wont be modding much. I found this on a US site and its the same price as the leobog hi75.
Pre-lubed stabilizers, pre-lubed switches, no modding. And this is called "custom". Okay, cool.
Well, what was the problem with buying Xinmeng A66 / M71?
I've been seeing a lot of keyboards that are very similar form factor and features in this price range: lmk67, sugar65, gmk67, cidoo v65v2, EK68.
do all color variants have engraving? i saw a video showing the black variant and the back had no engraving, also is there iso enter for the ansi pcb
Does it have Rgb?
Hello sir do you know any shop that sells silicon gasket socks for the FR4 plate?
can you do a review for leobog hi 75 please? just to compare with the sugar 65. im torned between these 2 boards
I noticed there were 2 switches included in it. Do you happen to know what those are?
Gonna get one for myself. Got the ximeng m71 recently but I just need that knobbbbbb
happy 4k sir🎉🎉🎉
Do you know where i can find the plate file for this been planning on getting a custom plate for this one though.
U deserve a million subs brooo ❤
Thank you!
I just finished my Neo65 but want to build this out as well, after watching I think I'm going to pick one up! Thank you for the review!
How much did the build cost? And is it meow clacky?
@@gameboyv1790 I went full tri-mode on the Neo with the Chroma plate so it wasn't cheap, at least not to me but it sounds amazing and is my new daily driver with Oil Kings and PBTfans Sabarushi key caps - very thocky actually but lively at the same time. My Sugar65 came today. Merkeeps is right about the chalky finish but otherwise the board is super solid. Not as nice as the Neo65 but was like 1/3 the price.
In terms of sound, would you prefer this one or rakk pirah plus? Couldnt decide between the two
This is a reasonably priced keyboard. How can I get a program for Windows to control this keyboard?
does anyone have the sofware link my seller send me one that says theres a missing file and wont open
What mouse pad is that?
I bought this keyboard, but I'm having trouble changing the position of the Fn key.
How do i tape mod with this ?? I am a newbie 😢
What diameter size for this knob? I wanna custom knob but idk diameter size..
what would you recommend more this or leobog hi75?
Do u know what thickness the pcb is? I'm not sure whether it's 1.6mm or 1.2mm.
they come pre lubed? hold on i might build another keeb lol. im so lazy in lubing its crazy 😅
Planning to buy a set of the 2 switches included, a dollar for 4pcs, is it worth it and thocky?
This or the Lychee G80 ?
I love this keyboard but I'd recommend you to check also the Xinmeng A66, it seems to be a great deal
Will definitely keep that A66 in mind!
I did some research on it while I was working on this video and there's definitely some similarities to this board.
It does also share alot of design DNA from the Xinmeng M71 that's for sure.
the a66 definitely better. There are several issues with the sugar65 in my country namely shitty board, unmatch color cnc...
oh yea? What kind of issues are you facing? @@Fast_2104
@@Fast_2104 how about typing feel and sound (sugar65)? pls gve me info before i take it
@@trisnasaart3187 there were so many feedback about its poor build quality so i also canceled. Many bought it said there is no foam and unmatched color
But i mean, its the cheapest aluminum out there, you shouldn't expect much. The a66 doesnt looking promising either with the same issue about its uneven color
I bought it from aliespress but for 70 dollars is gonna be my first aluminiom keyboard so hype
What is the difference between the FR4 plate and polycarbonate plate?
A pc plate (polycarbonate) usually has a deeper sound signature and some flex and a fr4 plate is kinda something between a pc plate and a aluminium plate
glad i ordered this
I bought the board as well they have a software you can ask the shop seller for it
Are you 100% sure there’s a software for it? What’s it called
@@krisrobitzsch Yes it does have from longwind shop
It's exactly like the GMK67 but aluminum. Very interesting
except the gmk67 is tri-mode lol
PLS GIMME THE BUILD INFO FOR THE 1ST ONE PLS😢
Sweet review! How is this compared to gmk67?
its a gmk67+ its technically the same but with a better case and more layouts
@@qkafae gmk is tri-mod tho
@@chrestiancapuli2221 i personally dont need tri mode keyboards and i think having a coiled custom cable looks better than without a cable
This or Rakk Pirah Plus?
do you have a software for macos? i only have for windows. can you please send me? thanks
does it support any software?
Does the plate work with external plate mount stabs? (Durock plate mount stabs)
Haven't personally tried any aftermarket stabs so I can't be sure
Can you review the Leobog Hi75? from TaoBao it's 41 USD
this or the m71?
what better? buy sugar65 or earn a litlle bit more ,oney and buy neo65?
Neo65 I own it myself.
Can someone please share the software ? Thank you
Can you please try to swap the gmk67 pcb to the sugar65? Salamat!
yeah but what about bluetooth and 2.5ghz?
does it work on ps5?
Does it have interference with cherry keycaps or not?
None at all
@@Merkeebs thank you for your fast response ♥️
this does have software bro
Hi, great video, one question, how can you use the multimedia keys? like "vol -+" "play/pause"
Thanks!
the keyboard supports VIA?
No.
Is the AliExpress link in the description legit? Have you tested ordering from it and not get scammed?
Full transparency, I have not personally ordered from the linked AliExpress store. I did want to add an AliExpress / international vendor option to not limit the board coverage to just my Philippine audience.
I did however check a few Sugar65 listings on the site and decided to link a vendor with the most legitimate sales of other mechanical keyboard products.
So it's really more of a "buy at your own risk" link.
So gmk67 or sugar65?😭
Why not both?
I own both. Gmk67 for office use as it wireless. While sugar65 at home
no point in getting GMK67 if you have access to rakk pirah plus, its basically GMK67 with extra top cover, VIA compatible, with keycaps and switches already for almost the same price
@@iantune I believe Rakk is only selling here in the Philippines. So it might be that he's not from the Philippines
yeah the rakk pirah plus is a rebranded gmk67 lol@@iantune
First! ❤
Its crazy that switch nerds are willing to pay 500 euro for this
Sold sana ko kung may 7u support :>
this board sounds too good for this price....
A huge win for the consumer don't you think? Haha
@@Merkeebs very good but I just worry about the slave labour involved in making it xD
@@Merkeebs would have bought it as a gift for my cousin if it had bluetooth/wireless but the keyboard seems to be wired only?
@@DvineDragoon Yes unfortunately it is wired only, however the people in the comments have mentioned the Xinmeng A66 being a good wireless alternative / counterpart for this board. Do consider checking that one out hehe.
@@DvineDragoonbuy the womier k71. Its wireless and the same board
dawg i got this for 38$ 😂😂
Where though
** Opens wallet **Ah shit here we go again...
Btw, do you know if there's a difference between the R1 and R2 of this board? Is it just the Sugar engraving at the back?
This board is absolute lason, but i'll wait for now. Maybe another board will overtake it in the value proposition. Really need software even if it's just proprietary for that price.
2nd po, 2nd
3rd
does it supports screw in stabs?