@@karyadiarif4046 Chris Evert 74 French Open to 86 French Open Martina Navratilova 78 Wimbledon to 90 Wimbledon Steffi Graf 87 French Open to 99 French Open Pete Sampras 90 US Open to 02 US Open
A Great legend of the game... So beautifull to watch the power in her froeline forehand..Her sliced backhand game was a weapon too!..With personality & cool temperament in tense moments...An example to all young people learning tennis...We miss you Steffi
Steffi was utterly unflappable. Her composure was veteran like and she played some of her best tennis when her back was against the wall. Mark of a champion.
@@mathewhorodner2000 Graf totally had Navratilova shaken with her 2nd serve returns. Who else runs around their backhand outside the doubles alley to hit an incredible return on break point? Martina didn't choke, she was hit off the court in the final moments of that 3rd set. Which match did you watch?
Wow! It's unbelievable that Graf in her very first major final had to serve to stay in the match and had to break to stay in the match. It shows a glimpse of a great a champion with a great mental toughness
gabisubis so Serena is chopped liver? everyone is entitled to there own opinion but these two have called Serena the greatest including Evert ....I'm just saying!!!
nuwandalton I'm a Steffi Graf fan, she is my age. However Serena at her peak plays at a level Steffi and Martina have never reached. If Steffi had a hard time dealing with Monica Seles from the baseline with her angles and power. How would she deal with Serena with best serve ever in women tennis, angles and power and a fantastic athlete, which Seles was not. As Billie Jean King says the players are getting better. Martina advanced the game, so did Steffi and Monica, Serena took it too a different level.
nuwandalton fanboys??? wat does that mean??Williams. sisters r n my opinion 2 of the greatest tennis players ever also but this is social media so of course u hav your opinion jus wondering is the comment fanboys a snide remark about the millions of fans of S an V Williams
GOAT is a very subjective claim. Martina had to contend with Chris Evert, they are tied in Slam wins. Monica Seles had already eclipsed Graf when she was stabbed. The Williams Sisters played against weaker fields. A problem for the women that gets worse every year.
@Max E - The difference in their winning percentages( Evert/Graf) is so minimal it isn't even worth debating. Head to head Steffi held a 9-8 advantage but Chris was at the end of her career. Steffi, Martina and Chris are the 3 best players ever in my opinion.
@Max E - I guess it all depends on what source you reference. I used The Official U.S Women's Tennis Association All Time Records website. Whether Steffi was 9-8 or 8-6 against Chris is a moot point. Evert is 10 years older and she held her own against Graf. Thank you for the comments exchange. I enjoyed the battle.
@Max E - I checked out the ITF(International Federation of Tennis) website. It has the exact same stats as The Women's Tennis Association(WTA) so how can you say The WTA is not taken seriously.
This was definitely a "passing of the guard" moment - whether Martina realized it or not. Graf's athleticism and leg speed/power was phenomenal! It also occurred to me that Martina Navratilova was two points away in the final set to defeat Graf and win the French - 5-3 (15-30) - only to not. Twelve years later, another Martina - Hingis - was two points away from setting herself up to win the French Open on her serve in the final set against Graf - 4-2 (15-30) - only to not. Graf had grit.
No Martina would definitely not felt the least bit afraid of Steffi here. Right here. She would of felt like the dominant player . At this moment. ! Afterwards she may of thought otherwise. Or she might of blamed the day but someone like Martina would believe she could win any March against anyone as would steffi..!
@timothy chung Same age, haha, what planet are you on dude with that shit. 17 year old Navratilova (the age Graf was here) would be CRUSHED by this Graf. Martina at that point was fat, grossly overweight, mentally unstable on court, losing to people like Janet Newburry in slams, making an Australian Open final in a depleted field but losing 6-3, 6-2 to Evonne Goolagong, and years from winning her first slam. Now if you mean 30 year old Graf vs 30 year old Navratilova that would be closer, but on clay atleast Graf probably wins and more likely easier than she did here too. Graf of the 99 French and 99 Wimbledon which was just before turning 30 was probably better than the Graf here who still beat Martina after all. And more importantly 30 year old Graf would not have the disadvantage of being in her first slam final and slam final inexperience which was the main reason this match was so close, as their two previous slow court matches at 86 German Open and 87 Miami Graf won very easily.
@Khwairakpam Napoleon And Steffi was 17 here. 17 year old Navratilova was the cheeseburger queen and many years from her first slam win which was not until she turned 21. 17 year old Graf would crush 17 year old Navratilova hard. This particular Navratilova would crush 17 year old 200 pound super slow around court Navratilova hard after all.
Steffi had a great topspin backhand one hander, which she used much more earlier in her career-but she won so many matches with her dreaded slice backhand-which was deadly---almost like a great changeup in baseball pitching-very underrated
Agreed her husband Andre Agassi once described her slice as Knife like .........I think it seems weak because it is not hit so hard however many don,t realize how fast it must come to her opponents it also stays very low making you bend those extra few inches . Which gets harder to do as the match goes on and you get tired . She can also use that slice hitting it deep to the baseline keeping her opponent back . A very underrated weapon
Indeed. I remember Monica Seles once said that Steffi's backhand never got the credit it deserved in terms of how tough it was. But there was a time where Graf's backhand did become weaker and a bit of a liability. In early 1990, Steffi broke her thumb in a skiing accident and so she took some time off. When she came back during the claycourt season, many noted that she was hitting her backhand much closer to her body than before. This was mentioned by not only Tennis Magazine but also by commentators at the 1990 French Open semifinals in Graf's match against Novotna. It became a short and choppy slice backhand but whenever she tried to add depth to it, it was almost soft and floaty. Plus she was hitting it crosscourt almost all of the time. For example, Graf hit fantastic backhand passing shots against Navratilova in the late 80s but hit very weak passing shots against Sabatini in the early 90s. It wasn't until around early 1995 after missing the Australian Open that Steffi's backhand was showing much better arm extension and she was also hitting down the line more often. Please don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying that her backhand issues in the early 90s is the sole reason why Graf had more losses. There were numerous factors at play like Monica Seles' awesome rise and Sabatini's amazing improvement.
That little mic 🎤 was pretty awesome sound quality and the speeches were highly gracious and cute the way they bantered with each other good genuine sportsmanship here.
@Illya Kuryakin Fans can be bias and prejudiced, which is why I am going to rely on the evidence that Steffi is The GOAT. But it is cool fans voted Steffi as the Goat.
@Max E Steffi is The GOAT. Then Court, Evret, Navratilova and then Serena--although maybe she is still further back no thanks to her introducing howling and screaming to tennis for the sole purpose of annoying and distracting the opposition, taught to them (both sisters) by their father. Ugly character of a family.
This tape of the 1987 French Open Women's Final must be the Australian telecast because the commentators are Trabert, Newcombe and Stolle, whereas the American broadcast was NBC Sports and the commentators for that broadcast were Dick Enberg and Bud Collins (and possibly Joanne Russell).
@@joeyconvery2055 yeah right.look up there head to head.seles only got the better of steffi when graf was having major issues outside tennis.sabatini was beating her as well
@Illya Kuryakin Any list of top players, singers, music, actors, painters, athletes, etc., will always be based on pop culture or personal preference, regardless anyones profession who posts any such list.
@Illya Kuryakin Like I said: "Any list of top players, singers, music, actors, painters, athletes, etc., will always be based on pop culture or personal preference, regardless anyones profession who posts any such list."
Steffi, mi amor... te amé y admiré desde la primera vez que te vi jugar... tus desplazamientos en la cancha, tu silueta, tu mirada... todo era perfecto!!! Clase, destreza, refinamiento, belleza... Señor... habría recorrido la Tierra entera -de rodillas- por sólo besar tus manos...
Steffi was the one nervous. She should have won much easier. She destroyed peak Martina 6-3, 6-2 their last match on clay in early 86 when Graf was nowhere near her prime (she wasn't in her prime here but much closer than 86) and even destroyed her on a slow hard court earlier this year. So on this slow court it should have never been close based on their previous 2 slow court matches but it was Graf's first slam final and she badly underperformed. Of course you are the huge Graf hater who stupidly said Seles was a better player than her.
This victory would have been so sweet for Graf. About a year ago, Navratilova said something like "Young ones like Graf will never win a grand slam title" or something. Sweet revenge!
@Max E She did it later... after Graf won the Golden Grand Slam in 1988, Navratilova changed her mind. But both Navratilova and Chris Evert were a little too harsh on very young Graf... I remember.
SUPER RANKING, TWO GREAT PLAYER IN THIS GAME....... BOTH ARE STAMINA FULL, PRACTICE FULL, TECHNICAL FULL, POWERFUL FULL, AND ENERGY FULL......... IN THIS SITUATION, WINER IS WONDERFUL.........
Steffi Graf is brilian and Consisten... energik...focus ...Winner mentality...and So..Never give up...best is the best Steffi Graf.. forever.is legen..
Graf had a damned good topspin backhand the infrequent times she chose to utilize it. It is a shame that she didn't make the topspin backhand a regular part/feature of her tennis shot- making repertoire.
हिरणी सी स्फूर्ति, चीते सी झपट, जीतने की अदम्य इच्छा और समुद्र की गहराई वाला शांत मन स्टेफी ग्राफ को महिला टेनिस की सार्वकालिक श्रेष्ठतम खिलाड़ी बना गए। आज भी उनके मैच देखने की इच्छा रह रह कर जागती है।
At 20:57...I don't believe anyone ever saw a female hit a crosscourt forehand with that much pace or power!! It actually made the crowd GASP in amazement!!😰😰
Martina did all she good but even at 17 Steffi was a force of nature. It was the changing of the guard and start of Steffis reign. Martina could have been more gracious in defeat, it was Steffis first grand slam and she was only 17.
So much going on in this match. From Martina's point of view, it was an incredibly stressful point in her career. After her retirement she said with hindsight she'd been very burnt out after 1986 but hadn't realised for several years. She hadn't won a tournament at all in 1987 and the pressure was mounting and mounting. Steffi was making her bid for the top and had added to Martina's problems. In this particular match, the wind played a huge factor. Martina always hated playing in the wind whereas Steffi didn't mind it. From steffi's point of view, she wasn't in her sharpest form and had really had to fight to win her semi final against Sabatini. This was her first grand slam final and she was not at her very peak. She also had a lot of pressure on her because she hadn't lost a match all year.
Another interesting thing is that Martina Navratilova played that 1987 French Open (and the remainder of the 1987 tennis season after the French Open) with a disguised Dunlop Max200G graphite midsize racket. Even though the Dunlop logo and cosmetic markings on the racket were painted over on Navratilova's racket, it was blatantly obvious to tennis fans and experts that it was not a Yonex racket that she was contracted to play with, but was actually a Dunlop Max200G racket--the same racket that John McEnroe and Steffi Graf played with during their tennis careers. Dunlop came out with a lighter version of the Dunlop Max200G racket for women, but I would imagine that both Navratilova and Graf played with the regular weight version of that racket.
It must also be noted that the Dunlop Max200G racket was actually manufactured by Slazenger, but the parent corporation Dunlop insisted that the racket should have their name on it because Dunlop was a more widely known corporate name back then. Slazenger made the Dunlop Max200G racket originally for John McEnroe.
i knew steffi would be big when i watched this match...some of her shots were ASTOUNDING.............and that FOREHAND.....WOW.........not even martina could cut those off........
@Max E Still angry? You will always be angry for the rest of your life. Haha.. Monica was better than Steffi...you know this...and I have said it before... Steffi was not good enough to regain her Number 1 ranking from Monica because Monica was too good...especially in the majors. Steffi was totally heartbroken after Monica kicked her ass. I still like Steffi but when it comes to tennis talent, Monica was superior. Poor Max E and Poor Steffi. 😆
@Max E Monica only played Wimbledon 3 times...the very first was as a 15 year old in 1989. Monica would have won at least 8 Wimbledons....Steffi only 3. 4 of those titles belong to Monica. Poor poor Steffi.
Feel bad here for Martina - three straight years where she loses in a french final barely in the third set ! When Martina does lose its always in a close third set
Nothing was more heartbreaking though than Martina's 1981 U.S. Open final loss to Tracy Austin, 1-6, 7-6, 7-6, afterwards breaking down in tears as a sympathetic New York crowd showed their appreciation and admiration for her with an extended standing ovation. Ironically, that disappointing loss motivated her afterwards into becoming the most dominant player in tennis history in which she compiled a record of 428-14 between 1982-86 in singles, and was arguably even more dominant in doubles during that same time along with partner Pam Shriver.
misina211 yes, I agree, Tracy had no business winning that one. Unfortunately Martina was just going through a strenuous training program and entered open 81 looking fit . Evert wore her out in their SF. Martina came out and played great till middle of the second set and missed forehand volleys because she didn’t have the energy to turn her hip and swing laterally thru the ball. Exhausted Martina guided the ball instead of reacting the way you would if you were not tired. Austin did not have a strenuous. Match until the final ( it’s not Austin’s fault she had nobodies to play ( potter ?????? ) come on. Evert had mandlikova in quarters then Martina in SF . She was ranked number one and should never had had the 5 seed to play in quarters then Martina . When your ranked number one it should be an advantage and play fourth seed in SF . This business of drawing out of a hat the third or fourth seed to go in to upper half of the draw is BS. Evert got screwed. Everts last year end number one was 1981. Austin was never ranked above Chris by ITF that decides who is 1,2,3 at end of year.
"When Martina does lose its always in a close third set". Hardly, in the 2 Wimbledon finals she lost to Graf she did lose in a 3rd set but was drubbed badly in both sets she lost, particularly the 3rd, barely winning one other set. The 86 French Open final vs Evert was also with Evert winning in very lopsided 2nd and 3rd sets. In the 87 Australian Open final she lost to Hana in straight sets. She was destroyed by Evert in the 88 Australian Open semis, and lost easily to Zvereva in the 88 French, Hanika in the 81 French, Mandlikova in the 81 Wimbledon. And those are just some of the losses when she was in or close to her prime, when we go outside that there are lots of blowouts. She was also badly destroyed in Miami by Graf this very year.
@timothy chung I'm trying to figure out where he is coming from. Yeah there were times she did get blownout, but there were also times she lost some epic matches just like Steffi, Chrissie, and Serena etc.
@@michaelbarlow6610 Many Americans say that. Could that have to do with the fact that Steffi isn‘t beating up US players anymore….? Steffi was super attractive even in the 1990s. Watch some interviews of her (for instance at the AO). And have a look at her modeling in a swimsuit!
@@carrerau7138 . No it wasn't that she was defeating American women tennis pros back then which caused American tennis fans to say she was unattractive back then. She just was not as facially attractive back then compared to how she looked in her late 30's. In her bikini photo in Sports iIllustrated Magazine's Swimsuit issue, she looked good but definitely not spectacular! A woman reaches her peak of physical beauty when she is 35-43 years old. Just look at Raquel Welch! She was at her peak of physical beauty at 40 years-old when she wrote her book, "Total Fitness And Beauty"!
@@michaelbarlow6610 You are comparing Steffi‘s face after a 3-hour battle with Sanchez in the 90s to Steffi face when she attends some charity events today. Again, watch videos of her giving interviews after her matches. Friendly, lovely, attractive. I agree that she doesn‘t seem to age and appears more relaxed and serene today. But back then she was a hottie with millions of male fans.
By today's standards it's always frustrating to see a woman as physically strong as Navratilova with such a weak baseline game. She could have hit a much heavier forehand. However, she grew up at a time when it was pretty near impossible to hit winners from the baseline due to small, wooden racket heads. So it was all about coming to the net. By the time the rackets became more powerful, she was already at her peak, near invincible and didn't need to make changes. By the time Graf and Seles came along, when she really could have done with a bigger baseline game, she was in her 30s and probably felt it was too risky to make big changes to her game when she was slower about the court and only going to play a few more years.
Martina knew that her time as the ruler was close to end 1987. She still won some, but it was clear Steffi would soon become undisputed. 1988/1989 was all Graf! I remember Martinas emotional moments when she first lost to Graf. It was 1986 in germany in straight 2 sets. It was a big sensation back then - Steffi was 16 years old - and it even made the Tennis boom, started from Boris Becker one year before, in germany bigger. Martina knew Steffi would be her successor.
Even Graf's husband , former tennis pro Andre Agassi , stated many years ago that if Graf had had Justin Henin's topspin backhand, Graf would have been an even more dominant player than she was during her career.
@ Ilya Kuryakin. If Henin had had Graf's underspin backhand that would not have made Henin a dominant player. On the other hand, if Graf had had Henin's outstanding topspin backhand, then Graf would unquestionably have been even more dominant than she was during her tennis career! Graf could hit a topspin backhand very well on those relatively rare occasions when she chose to hit a topspin backhand, but she never made the topspin backhand a regular part of her tennis repertoire. And of course, if Henin had had Graf's forehand Henin would have been a dominant player like Graf.
It is so sad that the men's and women's champions at the French Open no longer receive the championship trophies in the stands at Roland Garros like they used to because of one lunatic named Gunther Parche and what he deplorably did to Monica Seles in the women's tournament in Hamburg, Germany in 1993.
@ Ilya Kuryakin. Oh yes the reason that they no longer award the championship trophies to the male and female singles winners at the French Open tennis championships in the stands like they used to is because of what that lunatic Gunther Parche did to Monica Seles at the 1993 Hamburg, Germany tournament! French federation tennis officials were not going to take any chances that another lunatic might attempt to repeat what horribly occured at that Hamburg tournament in 1993, so they understandably moved the awards ceremonies onto the court starting with the 1993 French Open tournament.
@ Ilya Kuryakin. Even if the French Tennis Federation had been considering moving the trophy presentation ceremonies at the French Open Tennis Championships onto the Court Central tennis court from the traditional location of the trophy presentation in the stands prior to the tragedy that happened to Seles at the 1993 Hamburg Germany tournament, that consideration (i.e., to fall in line with the Wimbledon and U.S. Open practice of presenting the male and female singles titles winners and runners-up with their awards on the tennis court) was the secondary reason for their switching the location of the trophy presentation not the primary reason! The primary reason clearly was to reduce the risk of another lunatic like Gunther Parche doing to another player what Parche did to Seles. If anyone believes otherwise, then he or she would believe, as the old expression goes, that "there is a bridge in Brooklyn for sale"!
Navratilova serve for thé match and make 2 double fault. First gran slam. 1999 Hingis serve for the match and lose. Last gran slam. I see S Graf à lot of time, and there is not à logical explanation, people look at her like a Greek divinity, above even McEnroe Noah or Connors. 15 000 crying Steffi every match. It was a religious moment. Steffi Graf and the rest of the world.
26:38 I genuinely wonder if the commentator knew at that point that he would responsible for introducing a new euphemism for the word 'lesbian' into English slang? "Martina's friend.."
I don’t know why Martina got so nervous against Graf, at this stage Steffi did not yet have an overwhelming weapon. Martina was still best player as she beat Graf at W and Open . Then Graf took over. Martina. Had 3 heartbreakers at French ( 85,86,87) in the way Evert had losses against Martina at W (85 final , 87& 88SF ) all three setters very close.
So Steffi's forehand wasnt an overwhelming weapon at this point, haha. And I wouldnt call the Wimbledon semi final losses for Evert heartbreakers when she never had a shot in the final either year, especialy 88. The 86 French Open final was a commanding win for Evert after a bad first set too, Martina was not remotedly close to winning either set or the match.
Martina was famous for her nerves - she lost a lot of matches, notably at the US Open over the years at least partly because of them (1981 and 1989 finals being two examples). This was also a very stressful time in her career. She said many years later that she was mentally burnt out at the time, but hadn't realised it. She'd also gone all the way through 1987 up until Wimbledon without winning a single tournament
One of the best women's grandslam tennis finals with two of the best players ever played the sports in history! Bravo!!! 😘💯👏
Steffi is number 1 in tennis history.Legend of the game!
Ironic how Graf won both her first (‘87) and last (‘99) French Opens beating a #1 player named Martina.
Very Crazy
Her first and last French open and also her first and last grand slam.
that's not irony.. that is coincidence
Richard, it is irony, c'mon now! She defeated an aging champion in '87 and then defeated a young upstart in 99.
@@karyadiarif4046 Chris Evert 74 French Open to 86 French Open
Martina Navratilova 78 Wimbledon to 90 Wimbledon
Steffi Graf 87 French Open to 99 French Open
Pete Sampras 90 US Open to 02 US Open
Steffi pound for pound one of the great ones in all sport
Steffi slice backhand seems so easy, the ball is like bullet, miss steffi so much😍😍😍😍
Exactly. I always love her quickness, simplicity and agility.
And the irony is she is known for her forehand.
@@jacobisaaclabrador2211 I also always loved her bounce right before recieving every time also..funny how bad I miss seeing that nowadays
A Great legend of the game... So beautifull to watch the power in her froeline forehand..Her sliced backhand game was a weapon too!..With personality & cool temperament in tense moments...An example to all young people learning tennis...We miss you Steffi
Steffi was utterly unflappable. Her composure was veteran like and she played some of her best tennis when her back was against the wall. Mark of a champion.
Martina Navratilova totally choked
@@mathewhorodner2000 Graf totally had Navratilova shaken with her 2nd serve returns. Who else runs around their backhand outside the doubles alley to hit an incredible return on break point? Martina didn't choke, she was hit off the court in the final moments of that 3rd set. Which match did you watch?
Thanks for all the effort you put in uploading these great videos. Highly appreciated
In a match like this there is no loser. Kudos to both Steffi and Martina. The fans and the crowd got their money's worth.
The same gracious Steffi from this day till she retired..
Wow! It's unbelievable that Graf in her very first major final had to serve to stay in the match and had to break to stay in the match. It shows a glimpse of a great a champion with a great mental toughness
Those were the days when a number one play really dominated for many years. It was the beginning of a new queen
Martina’s net game vs Graf’s ground game made for great tennis.
Steffi and Martina are the greatest tennis player than every time.
Whatever the Williams fanboys may think, these are the two greatest players ever
gabisubis so Serena is chopped liver? everyone is entitled to there own opinion but these two have called Serena the greatest including Evert ....I'm just saying!!!
nuwandalton I'm a Steffi Graf fan, she is my age. However Serena at her peak plays at a level Steffi and Martina have never reached. If Steffi had a hard time dealing with Monica Seles from the baseline with her angles and power. How would she deal with Serena with best serve ever in women tennis, angles and power and a fantastic athlete, which Seles was not. As Billie Jean King says the players are getting better. Martina advanced the game, so did Steffi and Monica, Serena took it too a different level.
nuwandalton
fanboys???
wat does that mean??Williams. sisters r n my opinion 2 of the greatest tennis players ever also
but this is social media so of course u hav your opinion jus wondering is the comment fanboys a snide remark about the millions of fans of S an V Williams
maximillian jens
how do u know??
u prob use them yourself idiot spazz
GOAT is a very subjective claim. Martina had to contend with Chris Evert, they are tied in Slam wins. Monica Seles had already eclipsed Graf when she was stabbed. The Williams Sisters played against weaker fields. A problem for the women that gets worse every year.
Great Match. . Super Champions Magnific..
Steffi No1 for ever❤❤❤
those speeches from Steffi and Martina and Martina telling Steffi to hoist the trophy ....just everything
2 best tennis players ever
@veronikah K- Chris Evert is the GOAT. No one will ever come close to her all time 92.4 winning percentage. Steffi
and Martina are just merely great.
@Max E - The difference in their winning percentages( Evert/Graf) is so minimal it isn't even worth debating. Head to head Steffi held a 9-8 advantage but Chris was at the end of her career. Steffi, Martina
and Chris are the 3 best players ever in my opinion.
@Max E - I guess it all depends on what source you reference. I used The Official U.S Women's Tennis Association All Time Records website. Whether Steffi was 9-8 or 8-6 against Chris is a moot point. Evert is 10 years older and she held her own against Graf. Thank you for the comments exchange. I enjoyed the battle.
@Max E - I'm not sure about the tons of mistakes. What do you propose as a more accurate reference?
@Max E - I checked out the ITF(International Federation of Tennis) website. It has the exact same stats as The Women's Tennis Association(WTA) so how can you say The WTA is not taken seriously.
This was definitely a "passing of the guard" moment - whether Martina realized it or not. Graf's athleticism and leg speed/power was phenomenal!
It also occurred to me that Martina Navratilova was two points away in the final set to defeat Graf and win the French - 5-3 (15-30) - only to not. Twelve years later, another Martina - Hingis - was two points away from setting herself up to win the French Open on her serve in the final set against Graf - 4-2 (15-30) - only to not.
Graf had grit.
Mario Escalante You must’ve mixed things up. Graf won the ninth game to love.
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No Martina would definitely not felt the least bit afraid of Steffi here. Right here. She would of felt like the dominant player . At this moment. ! Afterwards she may of thought otherwise. Or she might of blamed the day but someone like Martina would believe she could win any March against anyone as would steffi..!
@timothy chung Same age, haha, what planet are you on dude with that shit. 17 year old Navratilova (the age Graf was here) would be CRUSHED by this Graf. Martina at that point was fat, grossly overweight, mentally unstable on court, losing to people like Janet Newburry in slams, making an Australian Open final in a depleted field but losing 6-3, 6-2 to Evonne Goolagong, and years from winning her first slam. Now if you mean 30 year old Graf vs 30 year old Navratilova that would be closer, but on clay atleast Graf probably wins and more likely easier than she did here too. Graf of the 99 French and 99 Wimbledon which was just before turning 30 was probably better than the Graf here who still beat Martina after all. And more importantly 30 year old Graf would not have the disadvantage of being in her first slam final and slam final inexperience which was the main reason this match was so close, as their two previous slow court matches at 86 German Open and 87 Miami Graf won very easily.
@Khwairakpam Napoleon And Steffi was 17 here. 17 year old Navratilova was the cheeseburger queen and many years from her first slam win which was not until she turned 21. 17 year old Graf would crush 17 year old Navratilova hard. This particular Navratilova would crush 17 year old 200 pound super slow around court Navratilova hard after all.
amazing match bests players 😀👍i enjoyed a lot watching, Steffi💪
1/22 1987 till 1999. GOAT ...
Steffi had a great topspin backhand one hander, which she used much more earlier in her career-but she won so many matches with her dreaded slice backhand-which was deadly---almost like a great changeup in baseball pitching-very underrated
Agreed her husband Andre Agassi once described her slice as Knife like .........I think it seems weak because it is not hit so hard however many don,t realize how fast it must come to her opponents it also stays very low making you bend those extra few inches . Which gets harder to do as the match goes on and you get tired . She can also use that slice hitting it deep to the baseline keeping her opponent back . A very underrated weapon
Indeed. I remember Monica Seles once said that Steffi's backhand never got the credit it deserved in terms of how tough it was. But there was a time where Graf's backhand did become weaker and a bit of a liability. In early 1990, Steffi broke her thumb in a skiing accident and so she took some time off. When she came back during the claycourt season, many noted that she was hitting her backhand much closer to her body than before. This was mentioned by not only Tennis Magazine but also by commentators at the 1990 French Open semifinals in Graf's match against Novotna. It became a short and choppy slice backhand but whenever she tried to add depth to it, it was almost soft and floaty. Plus she was hitting it crosscourt almost all of the time. For example, Graf hit fantastic backhand passing shots against Navratilova in the late 80s but hit very weak passing shots against Sabatini in the early 90s. It wasn't until around early 1995 after missing the Australian Open that Steffi's backhand was showing much better arm extension and she was also hitting down the line more often.
Please don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying that her backhand issues in the early 90s is the sole reason why Graf had more losses. There were numerous factors at play like Monica Seles' awesome rise and Sabatini's amazing improvement.
She lost the topspin backhand after her skiing accident in 90.
She used it against net players like Navratilova and Novotna, rather.
very nice match i enjoyed watching thanks to the bests players 👍Steffi
Just see Steffi in the first moments after the match has finished. She‘s all humility. Great sportswoman!
As is Martina - I love her telling Steffi to hoist the trophy higher, after recognizing her win in a gracious speech -
Steffi never was humble
@Khwairakpam Napoleon yes brother
@@simonecorleone3338 What’s your problem?
@@simonecorleone3338 Then why do 98 % of fans, experts, players call her humble and classy?
And your fave not so much?
Unbelievable match.
Really wish I was into tennis back then, it would have been so much fun when your favorite player wins, I love me some Steffi
It was. Remember watching this one, loving Steffi
Steffi u r legend lady for ever 🙏💓🇮🇳🌺💓 God bless you and your family
Bravo! Steffi.
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Even in 1987, Steffi played quickly between points and played while holding the spare ball in her other hand
That little mic 🎤 was pretty awesome sound quality and the speeches were highly gracious and cute the way they bantered with each other good genuine sportsmanship here.
I like how they warm each other up before the match.
20:53 forehand inside out crosscourt with that kind of racquet on a slow clay... wow!
steffi 💖💖💖
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@Illya Kuryakin Fans can be bias and prejudiced, which is why I am going to rely on the evidence that Steffi is The GOAT. But it is cool fans voted Steffi as the Goat.
@Illya Kuryakin Then you don't know sports nor it's politics from all countries and states. Move on.
@Max E Steffi is The GOAT. Then Court, Evret, Navratilova and then Serena--although maybe she is still further back no thanks to her introducing howling and screaming to tennis for the sole purpose of annoying and distracting the opposition, taught to them (both sisters) by their father. Ugly character of a family.
This tape of the 1987 French Open Women's Final must be the Australian telecast because the commentators are Trabert, Newcombe and Stolle, whereas the American broadcast was NBC Sports and the commentators for that broadcast were Dick Enberg and Bud Collins (and possibly Joanne Russell).
Steffi graf by far the best to ever play the game of tennis
Monica beat up Steffi. 😆
@@joeyconvery2055 yeah right.look up there head to head.seles only got the better of steffi when graf was having major issues outside tennis.sabatini was beating her as well
Moni still holds the record for worst H2H ever of a #1 player against any opponent.
2-5.
😂
Such gracious players.
How Steffi hit those shots with a ball in her hand amazes me
Steffi the new Champion ...
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@Illya Kuryakin Any list of top players, singers, music, actors, painters, athletes, etc., will always be based on pop culture or personal preference, regardless anyones profession who posts any such list.
@Illya Kuryakin Like I said: "Any list of top players, singers, music, actors, painters, athletes, etc., will always be based on pop culture or personal preference, regardless anyones profession who posts any such list."
How cute was Steffi
Yeah she was a cutie despite her big nose.
Both legands of tennis
Head to Head 9 - 9..
Back When 30 Year Olds were Considered Old..
Nowadays.. 30 Year Olds are Youngsters..
Bravo Match..
Court played until 34, King played until 40, Wade played until 40, Goolagong played until 32, Evert played until 34, Navratilova played until 38.
Love it "I am sorry I won the match..."
Wow those ball boys and girls were not playing around. They lined up perfectly immediately after the match was over.
Martina Navratilova looked really attractive from 1983-1987. She looked fantastic back then when she appeared in the TV commercial for Computerland.
Мартина лиса как к сетки крадется
@@ОляЗайцева-т9ч . I have no idea what you wrote in your response comment because I don't speak or write your language.
Martina: "Hold that trophy up kid!"
Steffi so cute!
Two Ladies against the Storm 🌪
Steffi was so poised at 17!
Steffi, mi amor... te amé y admiré desde la primera vez que te vi jugar... tus desplazamientos en la cancha, tu silueta, tu mirada... todo era perfecto!!! Clase, destreza, refinamiento, belleza... Señor... habría recorrido la Tierra entera -de rodillas- por sólo besar tus manos...
What a lovely statement ....
Thank you!!!!
Nerves got to Martina and the memories of the last two French finals were swirling in her head
Steffi was the one nervous. She should have won much easier. She destroyed peak Martina 6-3, 6-2 their last match on clay in early 86 when Graf was nowhere near her prime (she wasn't in her prime here but much closer than 86) and even destroyed her on a slow hard court earlier this year. So on this slow court it should have never been close based on their previous 2 slow court matches but it was Graf's first slam final and she badly underperformed. Of course you are the huge Graf hater who stupidly said Seles was a better player than her.
Смотриш на технику танис яяяe wtu на приеми присидать нел ьз,я пока примиш у сопер з мач бола
Две королевы тенниса❤. И Штеффи❤, и Мартина❤ лучшее, что было в женском теннисе
This victory would have been so sweet for Graf. About a year ago, Navratilova said something like "Young ones like Graf will never win a grand slam title" or something. Sweet revenge!
@Max E She did it later... after Graf won the Golden Grand Slam in 1988, Navratilova changed her mind. But both Navratilova and Chris Evert were a little too harsh on very young Graf... I remember.
Navratilova never said this.
SUPER RANKING, TWO GREAT PLAYER IN THIS GAME.......
BOTH ARE STAMINA FULL, PRACTICE FULL, TECHNICAL FULL, POWERFUL FULL, AND ENERGY FULL.........
IN THIS SITUATION, WINER IS WONDERFUL.........
Who are the commentators for this 1987 French Open women's final for Channel 9 in Australia?
Steffi Graf is brilian and Consisten... energik...focus ...Winner mentality...and So..Never give up...best is the best Steffi Graf.. forever.is legen..
Grande Steffi.
Grandes deportistas ,Bravo pedazo match.
pretty nice!
Horrible conditions, I think it was class 3 hurricane. Those 2 played very well inspite of the conditions. Not even 18 and Steffi was so focused.
Steffi > Martina 💯
I even not yet born in this year 😂
Graf had a damned good topspin backhand the infrequent times she chose to utilize it. It is a shame that she didn't make the topspin backhand a regular part/feature of her tennis shot- making repertoire.
Martina also had a good topspin backhand when she used it
हिरणी सी स्फूर्ति, चीते सी झपट, जीतने की अदम्य इच्छा और समुद्र की गहराई वाला शांत मन स्टेफी ग्राफ को महिला टेनिस की सार्वकालिक श्रेष्ठतम खिलाड़ी बना गए। आज भी उनके मैच देखने की इच्छा रह रह कर जागती है।
„One of“ the greatest??
At 20:57...I don't believe anyone ever saw a female hit a crosscourt forehand with that much pace or power!! It actually made the crowd GASP in amazement!!😰😰
Monica had better groundstrokes.
@Max E I like Steffi...Steffi's forehand was amazing but Monica had better groundstrokes off both sides.
Poor Steffi. 😆
@Max E hahahahaha sad Monica
Martina did all she good but even at 17 Steffi was a force of nature. It was the changing of the guard and start of Steffis reign. Martina could have been more gracious in defeat, it was Steffis first grand slam and she was only 17.
Martina behaved impeccably after her loss.
4:40 I guess you could call that a Steffi graph.
So much going on in this match. From Martina's point of view, it was an incredibly stressful point in her career. After her retirement she said with hindsight she'd been very burnt out after 1986 but hadn't realised for several years. She hadn't won a tournament at all in 1987 and the pressure was mounting and mounting. Steffi was making her bid for the top and had added to Martina's problems. In this particular match, the wind played a huge factor. Martina always hated playing in the wind whereas Steffi didn't mind it.
From steffi's point of view, she wasn't in her sharpest form and had really had to fight to win her semi final against Sabatini. This was her first grand slam final and she was not at her very peak. She also had a lot of pressure on her because she hadn't lost a match all year.
Another interesting thing is that Martina Navratilova played that 1987 French Open (and the remainder of the 1987 tennis season after the French Open) with a disguised Dunlop Max200G graphite midsize racket. Even though the Dunlop logo and cosmetic markings on the racket were painted over on Navratilova's racket, it was blatantly obvious to tennis fans and experts that it was not a Yonex racket that she was contracted to play with, but was actually a Dunlop Max200G racket--the same racket that John McEnroe and Steffi Graf played with during their tennis careers. Dunlop came out with a lighter version of the Dunlop Max200G racket for women, but I would imagine that both Navratilova and Graf played with the regular weight version of that racket.
It must also be noted that the Dunlop Max200G racket was actually manufactured by Slazenger, but the parent corporation Dunlop insisted that the racket should have their name on it because Dunlop was a more widely known corporate name back then. Slazenger made the Dunlop Max200G racket originally for John McEnroe.
This was a changing of the guard match. Started Seffi's run.
Youngest ever to win a grand slam.. congratulations Steffi 👍👍
No, Martina Hingis at the 97 Wimbledon and Monica Seles at the 90 French Open were just 16 when they won their titles.
19:07, 40:21 and 1:13:32 (just a few examples!). Who says Steffi doesn't have a topspin backhand!
i knew steffi would be big when i watched this match...some of her shots were ASTOUNDING.............and that FOREHAND.....WOW.........not even martina could cut those off........
Steffi was great until Monica came along and beat her ass.
@Max E Still angry? You will always be angry for the rest of your life. Haha..
Monica was better than Steffi...you know this...and I have said it before...
Steffi was not good enough to regain her Number 1 ranking from Monica because Monica was too good...especially in the majors.
Steffi was totally heartbroken after Monica kicked her ass.
I still like Steffi but when it comes to tennis talent, Monica was superior.
Poor Max E and Poor Steffi. 😆
@Max E Steffi deserves 3 out of 7.
Monica deserves 4 of those trophies.
@Max E Monica only played Wimbledon 3 times...the very first was as a 15 year old in 1989. Monica would have won at least 8 Wimbledons....Steffi only 3.
4 of those titles belong to Monica.
Poor poor Steffi.
Feel bad here for Martina - three straight years where she loses in a french final barely in the third set ! When Martina does lose its always in a close third set
Nothing was more heartbreaking though than Martina's 1981 U.S. Open final loss to Tracy Austin, 1-6, 7-6, 7-6, afterwards breaking down in tears as a sympathetic New York crowd showed their appreciation and admiration for her with an extended standing ovation. Ironically, that disappointing loss motivated her afterwards into becoming the most dominant player in tennis history in which she compiled a record of 428-14 between 1982-86 in singles, and was arguably even more dominant in doubles during that same time along with partner Pam Shriver.
misina211 yes, I agree, Tracy had no business winning that one. Unfortunately Martina was just going through a strenuous training program and entered open 81 looking fit . Evert wore her out in their SF. Martina came out and played great till middle of the second set and missed forehand volleys because she didn’t have the energy to turn her hip and swing laterally thru the ball. Exhausted Martina guided the ball instead of reacting the way you would if you were not tired. Austin did not have a strenuous. Match until the final ( it’s not Austin’s fault she had nobodies to play ( potter ?????? ) come on. Evert had mandlikova in quarters then Martina in SF . She was ranked number one and should never had had the 5 seed to play in quarters then Martina . When your ranked number one it should be an advantage and play fourth seed in SF . This business of drawing out of a hat the third or fourth seed to go in to upper half of the draw is BS. Evert got screwed. Everts last year end number one was 1981. Austin was never ranked above Chris by ITF that decides who is 1,2,3 at end of year.
"When Martina does lose its always in a close third set". Hardly, in the 2 Wimbledon finals she lost to Graf she did lose in a 3rd set but was drubbed badly in both sets she lost, particularly the 3rd, barely winning one other set. The 86 French Open final vs Evert was also with Evert winning in very lopsided 2nd and 3rd sets. In the 87 Australian Open final she lost to Hana in straight sets. She was destroyed by Evert in the 88 Australian Open semis, and lost easily to Zvereva in the 88 French, Hanika in the 81 French, Mandlikova in the 81 Wimbledon. And those are just some of the losses when she was in or close to her prime, when we go outside that there are lots of blowouts. She was also badly destroyed in Miami by Graf this very year.
@@richardross4677 And she still lost heartbreakers. So your point
@timothy chung I'm trying to figure out where he is coming from. Yeah there were times she did get blownout, but there were also times she lost some epic matches just like Steffi, Chrissie, and Serena etc.
Steffi ganó su primer y último GS en Roland Garros
Hard to believe that Martina Navratilova is 63 years old now! Where has the time gone?
Even more stunning - cute little Steffi is now an elegant 53-year-old woman!
@@carrerau7138 . Yes Steffi is more attractive now than she was during her pro tennis career!
@@michaelbarlow6610 Many Americans say that.
Could that have to do with the fact that Steffi isn‘t beating up US players anymore….?
Steffi was super attractive even in the 1990s. Watch some interviews of her (for instance at the AO). And have a look at her modeling in a swimsuit!
@@carrerau7138 . No it wasn't that she was defeating American women tennis pros back then which caused American tennis fans to say she was unattractive back then. She just was not as facially attractive back then compared to how she looked in her late 30's. In her bikini photo in Sports iIllustrated Magazine's Swimsuit issue, she looked good but definitely not spectacular! A woman reaches her peak of physical beauty when she is 35-43 years old. Just look at Raquel Welch! She was at her peak of physical beauty at 40 years-old when she wrote her book, "Total Fitness And Beauty"!
@@michaelbarlow6610 You are comparing Steffi‘s face after a 3-hour battle with Sanchez in the 90s to Steffi face when she attends some charity events today.
Again, watch videos of her giving interviews after her matches. Friendly, lovely, attractive.
I agree that she doesn‘t seem to age and appears more relaxed and serene today. But back then she was a hottie with millions of male fans.
By today's standards it's always frustrating to see a woman as physically strong as Navratilova with such a weak baseline game. She could have hit a much heavier forehand. However, she grew up at a time when it was pretty near impossible to hit winners from the baseline due to small, wooden racket heads. So it was all about coming to the net. By the time the rackets became more powerful, she was already at her peak, near invincible and didn't need to make changes. By the time Graf and Seles came along, when she really could have done with a bigger baseline game, she was in her 30s and probably felt it was too risky to make big changes to her game when she was slower about the court and only going to play a few more years.
What was that banging (x2) after Martina's missed first service? Whatever it was it helped the double fault at the end. Great champions in any case...
Martina knew that her time as the ruler was close to end 1987. She still won some, but it was clear Steffi would soon become undisputed. 1988/1989 was all Graf! I remember Martinas emotional moments when she first lost to Graf. It was 1986 in germany in straight 2 sets. It was a big sensation back then - Steffi was 16 years old - and it even made the Tennis boom, started from Boris Becker one year before, in germany bigger. Martina knew Steffi would be her successor.
Even Graf's husband , former tennis pro Andre Agassi , stated many years ago that if Graf had had Justin Henin's topspin backhand, Graf would have been an even more dominant player than she was during her career.
I misspelled Justine Henin's first name as "Justin" in my above-posted comment about Steffi Graf's topspin backhand.
@ Ilya Kuryakin. If Henin had had Graf's underspin backhand that would not have made Henin a dominant player. On the other hand, if Graf had had Henin's outstanding topspin backhand, then Graf would unquestionably have been even more dominant than she was during her tennis career! Graf could hit a topspin backhand very well on those relatively rare occasions when she chose to hit a topspin backhand, but she never made the topspin backhand a regular part of her tennis repertoire. And of course, if Henin had had Graf's forehand Henin would have been a dominant player like Graf.
@ Ilya Kuryakin. Of course Henin never had a great serve like Graf which she needed to have in order to become a dominant player like Graf.
1987😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫a second after the victory he already had a fool with a microphone in his mouth😳😵💫😳😵💫😳
The wind sure picked up when Martina served for it at 5-4
And Martina's nerves...
I'm impressed that anyone could play a tennis match wearing those huge prescription lenses. & not as lightweight then as what would be available now
It is so sad that the men's and women's champions at the French Open no longer receive the championship trophies in the stands at Roland Garros like they used to because of one lunatic named Gunther Parche and what he deplorably did to Monica Seles in the women's tournament in Hamburg, Germany in 1993.
@ Ilya Kuryakin. Oh yes the reason that they no longer award the championship trophies to the male and female singles winners at the French Open tennis championships in the stands like they used to is because of what that lunatic Gunther Parche did to Monica Seles at the 1993 Hamburg, Germany tournament! French federation tennis officials were not going to take any chances that another lunatic might attempt to repeat what horribly occured at that Hamburg tournament in 1993, so they understandably moved the awards ceremonies onto the court starting with the 1993 French Open tournament.
@ Ilya Kuryakin. Even if the French Tennis Federation had been considering moving the trophy presentation ceremonies at the French Open Tennis Championships onto the Court Central tennis court from the traditional location of the trophy presentation in the stands prior to the tragedy that happened to Seles at the 1993 Hamburg Germany tournament, that consideration (i.e., to fall in line with the Wimbledon and U.S. Open practice of presenting the male and female singles titles winners and runners-up with their awards on the tennis court) was the secondary reason for their switching the location of the trophy presentation not the primary reason! The primary reason clearly was to reduce the risk of another lunatic like Gunther Parche doing to another player what Parche did to Seles. If anyone believes otherwise, then he or she would believe, as the old expression goes, that "there is a bridge in Brooklyn for sale"!
Grande Stefanie Graf ,crack.
#SteffiGraf #1
#MartinaNavratilova / #ChrisEvert #2
#Court #3
Then #Serena #4.
Delusional. Where is Little Mo?BJK?
Graf not even top 5. Seles stabbing allowed her all those Slams.
1. Navratilova and Evert 2. Williams and Seles 5. Court 6. King 7. Graf
no sound donc
Quite rare to see Martina choke but she played a poor game when she served for the match.
Navratilova serve for thé match and make 2 double fault. First gran slam.
1999 Hingis serve for the match and lose. Last gran slam.
I see S Graf à lot of time, and there is not à logical explanation, people look at her like a Greek divinity, above even McEnroe Noah or Connors. 15 000 crying Steffi every match. It was a religious moment.
Steffi Graf and the rest of the world.
この頃のグラフは当時、理想の彼女像だった。可愛かったな～～～✴️
Una de las debilidades de Martina sin duda era su concentración...dos dobles faltas cuando sirvió para el partido en el 5-4!!!
Kalo nonton tenis lap tanah liat susah bedain bola dg lapangan..
Jadi males nonton lewat hp
26:38 I genuinely wonder if the commentator knew at that point that he would responsible for introducing a new euphemism for the word 'lesbian' into English slang? "Martina's friend.."
That’s not a yonex Martina is playing with?
@michaelbarlow6610 explains in this comment section about that mystery racket. Good info.
matrtina fue grande despues steffi fue la mas grande hasta q llego monica seles y luego fue la kurnicova si es q no me equivoco
2 double faults in a row...by MARTINA....TALK ABOUT RARE
honestly...it seems like martina can not handle steffis serve
@Illya Kuryakin i did ..say....IT SEEMS.......that is all.....
I don’t know why Martina got so nervous against Graf, at this stage Steffi did not yet have an overwhelming weapon. Martina was still best player as she beat Graf at W and Open . Then Graf took over. Martina. Had 3 heartbreakers at French ( 85,86,87) in the way Evert had losses against Martina at W (85 final , 87& 88SF ) all three setters very close.
So Steffi's forehand wasnt an overwhelming weapon at this point, haha.
And I wouldnt call the Wimbledon semi final losses for Evert heartbreakers when she never had a shot in the final either year, especialy 88. The 86 French Open final was a commanding win for Evert after a bad first set too, Martina was not remotedly close to winning either set or the match.
Len Welch cos she knew she met a powerful opponent
Martina was famous for her nerves - she lost a lot of matches, notably at the US Open over the years at least partly because of them (1981 and 1989 finals being two examples). This was also a very stressful time in her career. She said many years later that she was mentally burnt out at the time, but hadn't realised it. She'd also gone all the way through 1987 up until Wimbledon without winning a single tournament
May be that’s why Martina beat graf at 87 open, 87 Wimbledon finals. It wasn’t until 88 when Graf developed her best forehand and serve.
Ferry