It is nice to see you repairing things. I realise that as a commercial venture, this is not profitable, but in a world where people simply throw away broken items, it is nice that someone is willing to still repair items.
been watching your content for a long time. Like when you were just starting out and learning to solder. I think my favorite thing about you is you're always excited to find something proper broken instead of partially broken. Excited to learn something new and not something you fixed before. Most people would be upset with a broken item in their life. Not you, the more broken the better.
I am amazed the amplifier chip survived all that heat . I am impressed you sorted out the problems and tried to understand the problems. It's nice to see your enthusiasm . I used to repair old record players and radios a long time ago and repairing things just seems to be a lost art. Many thanks for your channel Vince👍
Can't say I'm thrilled with these products. but I thoroughly enjoyed watching YOU finding the faults and repairing them. Anybody who wants to listen to their parents records would be miles ahead finding a (really) old version of these and repairing one of those. Better quality sound, better materials and far better engineering.
and wont ruing your records.. But you can get new record players in fine quality and not more expensive than vintage players. Cheap players like ARGON AUDIO TT are fine - a little more money will get you a Rega or Denon...
Oh Vince, I love your sense of humour with the socks n flip flops. As a child I was given an old Fidelity Suit Case type record player which was very similar to that and even very much the same compact size, interesting how the basic idea is still being used.
The stylus transducer isn't an insulator, it's a piezoelectric crystal. When it gets bent by the vibrations from the stylus, it creates a voltage between the two faces, which are metallized.
The crystal itself is usually something like lead zirconium titanate (PZT), but I think they're trying to replace that because lead isn't good stuff to put in consumer products, even if it is safely locked up in a crystalline ceramic material.
who else couldn't resist the temptation to play around with the speed switch on record players back in the day? I know these are cheap, but got to love the suitcase design. a timeless classic.
Great video. I've bought several of these in before from our local auctions for normally around £3-5 each, and like yours, they're mostly without power supplies. I normally just flip them on ebay as spares/repair items if they don't work straight away. I may have a go at fixing them up now I know how simple they are inside.
Mono records were cut laterally, with the groove modulated side to side. Stereo records are cut with the modulations 45 degrees from vertical, 90 degrees from each other. So one wall of the groove carries the left audio, and the other carries the right. Edison's original phonograph had the groove modulated vertical, an arrangement that worked fine for his cylinder records, but not so well for the gramophone disks developed by Berliner.
I was going to say you could take the components from one of the blue ones and put it in the black case. That way you would have all different colors working. Also, I've seen on EBAY sellers that have the boards for these. The main one being one that has the bluetooth option. It might make a good video to get one of those boards and install it into the one that is missing. Voltage on those boards is 5V I think. 🤗
Can sort of understand why these are popular i guess people may not want a big hifi setup for the occasional playing of a few records and these are easy to pack away, i love my vinyl records and part of the enjoyment is in the sleeves, smell, and placing the record on that turntable and dropping the needle down 😊
Hi Vince - why not get pcb way to recreate the missing board for you? (just a thought) its only a generic amplifier with a cartridge type preamplifier?
'Errol' 👍😃 just dug my plush collection of Roland Rat characters out from the 80s and they are sitting in the bedroom, I'm still a proud Rat fan at 50 😄😄😄
🤣😆😂 I didn’t even notice the footwear on the concrete watch video. If I had I would have thought - Vince is just having a chilled day! I noticed ALL you tubers are very apologetic, so now you’ve made me aware of WHY?!?! I can barely type this through hysterical laughter at the ridiculous messages you got OMG & the funny footwear. You do a wonderful job, I want a record player off you as I would trust anything you have fixed.
Thanks Vince 😊. Great content as usual. Very interesting fix. You're an inspiration for me. My family will never understand this but they are happy for each thing I can fix for them. You seem to be a great guy and I would have been proud of having a friend like you. Great work! Take care! Best wishes from Sweden
glad you've done this. got myself one of these suitcase record players a couple of weeks ago from cashies. cost me the grand total of £10. it came with its box and none of the packaging on it had been disturbed - making it near mint condition. the only thing missing is the audio cables, but, as I'm my own audio tech, I got that bit sorted 👍
The sticky goop in the cueing lever mechanism is intentional, to allow the tonearm to gradually lower onto the record instead of crashing down into the groove. But sometimes they add too much of it at the factory, causing the tonearm to not lower all the way unless you push down on the cueing post.
I went to the Argos site and read about 150 reviews. I'm puzzled by the overall rating of 4.5 stars out of 5 because so many people either said it didn't work properly or just sounded awful. It was especially odd because not that many reviews were blatantly fake, which is unusual for Argos, their site is packed with fake reviews. Personally I wouldn't put this in the same room as a record. Dreadful rubbish. Great repair video though, as usual. I really like that you will have a go at fixing just about anything, and with the same enthusiasm.
had a briefcase style one around just over 40 yrs ago, that had turntable on base, and vertical lid had a speaker on either side , inside / forward facing when open. it allowed mid size speakers, with space internally behind 1 for circuits, and behind the other for c size batteries. made by or branded as Boots. loved it.
Nice fixes and cool 80's music in that record, had to look it up as haven't seen the show. The PCBWay factory tour sounds exciting, looking forward to see your videos from there :)
Hi Vince, You're right, record players indeed are fascinating. For me, it all started when my parents gave me (as a 2-year old child) an old worn-out record player; the cartridge was bad and so, my father attached a piece of cardboard to the arm and stuck a sewing needle into the cardboard. That setup wasn't exactly kind on my records, but hey, it worked (somewhat :-) ). Some years later, I got an old wind-up gramophone (you know, those players using a steel needle to pick up the vibrations and amplifying the sound through a horn). Eversince, I love record players and although we now have much better sounding (digital) devices, there is something about vinyl sound a digital player will never ever be able to reproduce. So, very glad you made a video about fixing record players; I was kind of waiting for that. Great fixes on less great record players, but I don't care if they're cheap, it(s the learning experience, isn't it?
They are fascinating. I also have a Bang & Olufsen one to look at so hopefully that will be on the other end of the spectrum regards quality. Also I know a little bit more about them now so the B&O product won't be as daunting. Just hope that the Stylus is ok on that one £££$$$$ 😂
@@Mymatevince I wonder how many films have featured B&O gear as a symbol of middle class success, especially the 9000 CD changer which puts the discs on show in a line?
next time you want to test audio amplifiers no need to swap or buy parts , use your finger just touch the input and you will hear a hum ( on the record player touch either of the wires from the stylus ) same thing with a tape player , touch one of the connections to the play back head just thought I would throw that out there , that was my first signal injector
Hi Vince, nice to see you learning drag soldering 🙂and regarding the missing board - dude, you've got PCB Way as a sponsor! So, lets get one of the working boards and recreate it. They seem to be single layer board, so it should be pretty straight forward. If you don't know hot to do it, Richard and Detlev from Learn Electronics Repair did a video about it not so long ago.
I really enjoyed this video been watching learning and enjoying for years never once cared or though to comment on what you were wearing the internet can be a strange place well thank you for what you do I think I need to get one of these now
Grr another one that didn’t show in my subscriptions. Either way I’m happy to get a bonus one after the fridge video. Thanks Vince for the great content
Well done, as always. Little black rubber thing going onto these two white things. Hot snot. Cartridge, needle and stylus are interchangeable words, depending on time of day. Certainly, an education, as proved by the grey shorts combo (which really suits your figure), ho, ho. FGS, trim that braid.
In the US, the names are Victrola and Crosley. Both names are Chinesium for SHIT! Ha ha ha. BTW, the red stylus itself is replaceable, the black part is correctly called the cartridge, specifically a ceramic cartridge.
The small plastic disc/insert was provided by record player manufacturers because people used to buy 45rpm singles that had been recovered from juke boxes and juke boxes needed the middle bit of the record knocked out so they fitted on the actuators. If you look at 45s the middle bit is held in place by a few bridging pieces which allowed the middles to be knocked out by the juke box engineers who serviced the machines and replaced records when the "selected" count showed people weren't choosing them any more. Ahh, those were the days!
25:44 Genius, had one of these cheap record players when I was a young child although the one I had was definitely better quality than the rubbish that's produced today. Keep rocking those socks and flip flips.
These are kind of neat. If completely broken you have a sturdy little suitcase you can repurpose. You can upgrade to use better quality speakers, maybe even better stylus. Newer ones come with even bluetooth now. Quite a nice lil kit to fix up and use, as long as you're not an audiophile.
I had one like that in the US but I didn't use it because I didn't have any record so I sold it I wanted to buy some but never got around to it I figured someone else will enjoy it more than sitting in my house great job on fixing them up 👍
Techmoan looked at a number of these cheap record players not too long ago. They generally seem to use the same plastic mechanism as these, probably all from the same Chinese factory like cassette mechanisms in new machines today. They're serviceable for what they are, but you should keep an eye on the tracking force they exert on the record. With no way to adjust the tracking force, they can exceed what the cartridge and/or record can take and cause permanent damage. You can get these small scales that are used to measure the tracking force by placing the stylus on it at the same height as the record would be. Depending on the cartridge it should only be a few grams of force. Of course, if you really care about records you'd get an AudioTechnica cartridge at least, and likely an AT or similar brand record player :)
Mono was a squiggly side to side groove, stereo has the groove going side to side and also deepened to make the needle go up and down as well as side to side.. APU 👁 dropped a 👉👍👈
Pro tip from an old PC motherboard reworker.... a cheap set of steel picks will help with those bridges, especially when you get down to the smaller pin densities. Just heat the bridge, and lightly drag the pick outward between the pins. Solder does not want to stick to the steel until it is much hotter.
i work with records, the change to stereo was indeed a big deal. some LPs that were literally sounds of you know trains going by and all that were big sellers
I just don't get the hate for socks with sandals. I like my feet to breath, but I don't like dirt and sweat between my toes. The sock wicks the sweat and dissipates it for quicker evaporation. I just find it more comfortable than without socks.
I had one of those Bush suitcase style record players myself a few months ago granted it was not the best in sound quality through the small speakers and they tracked a bit heavy but as my vinyl was quite old and well played through gold plated 3.5 jack earplugs through the ear plug socket on it the sound was pretty decent better than the speakers built in anyway 😊
I bought myself one from Argos when they were on sale a few years ago, brand new for under £20 - Bargain! Sound quality is terrible through the speakers but at least the BUSH model I bought had phono outputs to connect to an external amp, some similar looking models only had the headphone socket. I found it easier to use the auto stop switch as an start/stop switch as it would often stop before the record had finished playing. Mine is definitely a 5 volt version as it has a USB lead and adapter for power.
I'm interested in seeing flexible pcbs and the tech behind that when you do visit the pcbway factory. I've seen so much about the industry standard layered pcbs but not enough out there about flexible pcbs.
hey Vince fantastic video and you mentioning Roland Rat brought me right back to my child hood days but just an FYI Roland Rat then Kevin the gerbil and Errol the hamster I remember Roland saying all the time run VT Errol :)
The channel Technology Connections does an in-depth dive into the workings of the stylus and how they developed the stereo channels. You are basically correct.
as a kid i used a bent needle as a stylus on our old wooden cabinet record player unit )) never had an idea you could replace it then so i figured make my own was only 6 . gl
If you check out some other channels on this site you will find people who say that these suitcase record players will scratch your records big time. The reason is the tone arm is too light or too heavy depending on the model. Also the stylus is quite cheap. So when you go to your local music store and spend $30 or more for a new record and you play it on this record player you are just wasting your money.
Best of them are the suitcases. After once again having played the old 45s from the attic and downloaded them finally, the suitcase will be stored there as well :)
I miss the days where you could just walk into Tandy Radio Shack and have a rummage for components and accessories along with ordering batches if need be. Who'd have thought China beat UK sellers on posting, maybe they have sellers/shops in UK that keep stock?
hi are you look at the video on the left side of you just asking resell as a job load best way after you have looked at them yes you are very right there's note you for get some thing do they p;lay 78's if they don''t you can jazz them up to play them to play them i been there
Hi Vince I've got three different types of these retro record players two are rechargeable believe it or not how cool is that ! I buy stuff off car boots check things and then re sell on car boots the sound quality isn't fantastic but some of mine are Bluetooth also 😅😅😅
i have one named victrola which is made in the same factory. the first "stereo" beatles record i heard had the singing in one channel and the instruments in the other!
At 34:00, what is the point of R40? It's a zero Ohm resistor joining two tracks, usually you see there's a track under the resistor for when the designer is trying to avoid a double-sided board), but not here. If you're trying for cheap you try not to add parts...
If you get a bad one they will be great for project boxes. Trying to fix item's is seeing how things work, when I was a kid I pulled apart an radio it was green an hand held, the wire would break of the battery connector so my granddad help me fix it.
I love Vinyl. The Best sound you will ever get I'd say. They are ok and look kinda nice, but the speakers are meh.. but they made an interesting video.
I don't know how it is in the UK, but here in Australia, despite a lot of ebay sellers who like to throw words around like 'AU stock' or 'Australia Stock' or 'Local Stock', or 'Delivered by Australia Post', etc... majority of the time it is drop-shipped from China to the seller who then sends it to you.
Nice Job Vince. I think the audio IC was blown due to over voltage. Someone probably plugged the wrong AC adapter in. Where the burn mark is corresponds with where the power comes into the chip by the look of the 0 ohm resistor and probably capacitor on the other side of the board. Great job as usual 👍
Thanks Mick, yes, maybe they used the 9V supply from the other record player models on this 5V one, or more likely a 19V laptop power supply looking at the damage 😂👍
hi CED video discs when i got my first one from a used hi-fi i had to 2nd looking how they worked i think i was not right i have a stereo player still my mate has a quad audio record player not 100% know how they work
I think the unit that had the blown up amplifier was connected to the wrong power source - To blow up a chip would have to be either ac power or 24 volt dc power - by accident of course ...
I got one of these and the wow/flutter was appalling. The sound quality was about as good as a clock radio. Even with an amp and speakers little bass so might as well use the built in ones. Almost seemed like the spindle wasn't quite straight as the arm would lift and drop when playing. Just about passable for rock or speech but horrible for classical stuff or orchestral/brass. Replaced it with a Sony which is your next step up (90 instead of 50) and you need an amp. So I get the appeal of these as cheap fun but if you want to enjoy your music and have an amp and speakers then get the sony/pioneer (all the same platform)
When your vinyl records are worth about twice as much as the record mechanism what do you expect? I have a Pro-ject Debut Pro but you can get a good record player for about £150-200.
The sad thing is that junk like this appeals to people who are just starting out and want to listen to vinyl but know absolutely nothing about audio and hi-fi. The chinese are unscrupulous and take advantage of that, knowing that people will buy this crap and think it's wonderful when they really don't know any better.
Absolutely creased when you "went to get the record player" absolutely hilarious 😂😂😂
😂 Cheers Tim!
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That was brilliant, Vince😂
I laughed out loud when he showed his feet. Kinda hope it was coming
The beautiful foot shot with socks stuck between the sandals and toes had me gutted 😂❤ nicely done vince!
It is nice to see you repairing things. I realise that as a commercial venture, this is not profitable, but in a world where people simply throw away broken items, it is nice that someone is willing to still repair items.
been watching your content for a long time. Like when you were just starting out and learning to solder. I think my favorite thing about you is you're always excited to find something proper broken instead of partially broken. Excited to learn something new and not something you fixed before. Most people would be upset with a broken item in their life. Not you, the more broken the better.
I am amazed the amplifier chip survived all that heat . I am impressed you sorted out the problems and tried to understand the problems. It's nice to see your enthusiasm . I used to repair old record players and radios a long time ago and repairing things just seems to be a lost art. Many thanks for your channel Vince👍
Can't say I'm thrilled with these products. but I thoroughly enjoyed watching YOU finding the faults and repairing them. Anybody who wants to listen to their parents records would be miles ahead finding a (really) old version of these and repairing one of those. Better quality sound, better materials and far better engineering.
and wont ruing your records.. But you can get new record players in fine quality and not more expensive than vintage players. Cheap players like ARGON AUDIO TT are fine - a little more money will get you a Rega or Denon...
Oh Vince, I love your sense of humour with the socks n flip flops.
As a child I was given an old Fidelity Suit Case type record player which was very similar to that and even very much the same compact size, interesting how the basic idea is still being used.
The stylus transducer isn't an insulator, it's a piezoelectric crystal. When it gets bent by the vibrations from the stylus, it creates a voltage between the two faces, which are metallized.
The crystal itself is usually something like lead zirconium titanate (PZT), but I think they're trying to replace that because lead isn't good stuff to put in consumer products, even if it is safely locked up in a crystalline ceramic material.
It is amazing that it can react so fast and pick up the minute differences in vibrations. Cheers Skonk 👍
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Oh you googled it too 😂😂😂😂
@@Jungleroomreptiles I'm an electrical engineer, knowing these sorts of things is key
I thought everyone on that side of the world wore sock with flip flops. I love your videos and you always put a smile on my face when you joke about.
I wear socks with flip flops because my feet get cold.
who else couldn't resist the temptation to play around with the speed switch on record players back in the day? I know these are cheap, but got to love the suitcase design. a timeless classic.
Great video. I've bought several of these in before from our local auctions for normally around £3-5 each, and like yours, they're mostly without power supplies. I normally just flip them on ebay as spares/repair items if they don't work straight away. I may have a go at fixing them up now I know how simple they are inside.
First time I have seen a class F amplifier chip in use. Thanks! (Watching this in mid-winter Melbourne Australia in an unheated house with bare feet.)
Mono records were cut laterally, with the groove modulated side to side. Stereo records are cut with the modulations 45 degrees from vertical, 90 degrees from each other. So one wall of the groove carries the left audio, and the other carries the right. Edison's original phonograph had the groove modulated vertical, an arrangement that worked fine for his cylinder records, but not so well for the gramophone disks developed by Berliner.
I was going to say you could take the components from one of the blue ones and put it in the black case. That way you would have all different colors working.
Also, I've seen on EBAY sellers that have the boards for these. The main one being one that has the bluetooth option. It might make a good video to get one of those boards and install it into the one that is missing. Voltage on those boards is 5V I think.
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Can sort of understand why these are popular i guess people may not want a big hifi setup for the occasional playing of a few records and these are easy to pack away, i love my vinyl records and part of the enjoyment is in the sleeves, smell, and placing the record on that turntable and dropping the needle down 😊
Hi Vince - why not get pcb way to recreate the missing board for you? (just a thought) its only a generic amplifier with a cartridge type preamplifier?
'Errol' 👍😃 just dug my plush collection of Roland Rat characters out from the 80s and they are sitting in the bedroom, I'm still a proud Rat fan at 50 😄😄😄
🤣😆😂 I didn’t even notice the footwear on the concrete watch video. If I had I would have thought - Vince is just having a chilled day!
I noticed ALL you tubers are very apologetic, so now you’ve made me aware of WHY?!?!
I can barely type this through hysterical laughter at the ridiculous messages you got OMG & the funny footwear.
You do a wonderful job, I want a record player off you as I would trust anything you have fixed.
Great content as usual, but you getting the player out of the box after explaining the negative comments in the Held section made my day lol.
Ah, i remember having seen these in other TH-camr's videos. They're fun, as are these fixes!
Thanks Devtty 👌👍
Thanks Vince 😊. Great content as usual. Very interesting fix. You're an inspiration for me. My family will never understand this but they are happy for each thing I can fix for them. You seem to be a great guy and I would have been proud of having a friend like you. Great work! Take care! Best wishes from Sweden
glad you've done this. got myself one of these suitcase record players a couple of weeks ago from cashies. cost me the grand total of £10. it came with its box and none of the packaging on it had been disturbed - making it near mint condition. the only thing missing is the audio cables, but, as I'm my own audio tech, I got that bit sorted 👍
The sticky goop in the cueing lever mechanism is intentional, to allow the tonearm to gradually lower onto the record instead of crashing down into the groove. But sometimes they add too much of it at the factory, causing the tonearm to not lower all the way unless you push down on the cueing post.
Ohhh, yes that makes sense. Nice one for commenting, thank you 👍👍
Vince, floppy sandaled result! Roland Rat and Gerald approved!
I went to the Argos site and read about 150 reviews. I'm puzzled by the overall rating of 4.5 stars out of 5 because so many people either said it didn't work properly or just sounded awful.
It was especially odd because not that many reviews were blatantly fake, which is unusual for Argos, their site is packed with fake reviews.
Personally I wouldn't put this in the same room as a record. Dreadful rubbish.
Great repair video though, as usual. I really like that you will have a go at fixing just about anything, and with the same enthusiasm.
had a briefcase style one around just over 40 yrs ago, that had turntable on base, and vertical lid had a speaker on either side , inside / forward facing when open. it allowed mid size speakers, with space internally behind 1 for circuits, and behind the other for c size batteries. made by or branded as Boots. loved it.
It would be cool if you could use pcb way to recreate the missing board
Excellent video and enjoyable to watch - I have a new one I bought in a thrift shop but I never used it yet. Now I know how to fix it if it’s broken 👍
Wonderful video!!! Cheers from Patagonia Argentina.
Nice fixes and cool 80's music in that record, had to look it up as haven't seen the show. The PCBWay factory tour sounds exciting, looking forward to see your videos from there :)
Bought one of those a few years ago. Still works like the first day. Different branding but i live in Serbia.
Hi Vince, You're right, record players indeed are fascinating. For me, it all started when my parents gave me (as a 2-year old child) an old worn-out record player; the cartridge was bad and so, my father attached a piece of cardboard to the arm and stuck a sewing needle into the cardboard. That setup wasn't exactly kind on my records, but hey, it worked (somewhat :-) ). Some years later, I got an old wind-up gramophone (you know, those players using a steel needle to pick up the vibrations and amplifying the sound through a horn). Eversince, I love record players and although we now have much better sounding (digital) devices, there is something about vinyl sound a digital player will never ever be able to reproduce. So, very glad you made a video about fixing record players; I was kind of waiting for that. Great fixes on less great record players, but I don't care if they're cheap, it(s the learning experience, isn't it?
They are fascinating. I also have a Bang & Olufsen one to look at so hopefully that will be on the other end of the spectrum regards quality. Also I know a little bit more about them now so the B&O product won't be as daunting. Just hope that the Stylus is ok on that one £££$$$$ 😂
@@Mymatevince B&O was always more about the style than the quality, with products far cheaper capable of far better sound.
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx Yeah, I'm still a sucker for B&O products though...They just look so good😂
@@Mymatevince I wonder how many films have featured B&O gear as a symbol of middle class success, especially the 9000 CD changer which puts the discs on show in a line?
Nice repairs, old record player cartridges used coils and magnets 😉👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
As usual, an excellent watch. Technology Connections did a really good show on how vinyl records hold stereo sound. Worth a look.
next time you want to test audio amplifiers no need to swap or buy parts , use your finger just touch the input and you will hear a hum ( on the record player touch either of the wires from the stylus )
same thing with a tape player , touch one of the connections to the play back head
just thought I would throw that out there , that was my first signal injector
Hi Vince, nice to see you learning drag soldering 🙂and regarding the missing board - dude, you've got PCB Way as a sponsor! So, lets get one of the working boards and recreate it. They seem to be single layer board, so it should be pretty straight forward. If you don't know hot to do it, Richard and Detlev from Learn Electronics Repair did a video about it not so long ago.
I really enjoyed this video been watching learning and enjoying for years never once cared or though to comment on what you were wearing the internet can be a strange place well thank you for what you do I think I need to get one of these now
Grr another one that didn’t show in my subscriptions. Either way I’m happy to get a bonus one after the fridge video. Thanks Vince for the great content
😂😂😂😂 socks and flip flops? Absolutely class
Just stumbled across your channel and absolutely loving the videos. Wish i had your knowledge though 😊
Well done, as always. Little black rubber thing going onto these two white things. Hot snot. Cartridge, needle and stylus are interchangeable words, depending on time of day. Certainly, an education, as proved by the grey shorts combo (which really suits your figure), ho, ho. FGS, trim that braid.
In the US, the names are Victrola and Crosley. Both names are Chinesium for SHIT! Ha ha ha. BTW, the red stylus itself is replaceable, the black part is correctly called the cartridge, specifically a ceramic cartridge.
Nice fixes! And loving the colour of your socks! 😉
the little thing you mentioned goes onto the turntable to hold the 45rpm in place.. because most have a doughnut sized hole.
The small plastic disc/insert was provided by record player manufacturers because people used to buy 45rpm singles that had been recovered from juke boxes and juke boxes needed the middle bit of the record knocked out so they fitted on the actuators. If you look at 45s the middle bit is held in place by a few bridging pieces which allowed the middles to be knocked out by the juke box engineers who serviced the machines and replaced records when the "selected" count showed people weren't choosing them any more. Ahh, those were the days!
25:44 Genius, had one of these cheap record players when I was a young child although the one I had was definitely better quality than the rubbish that's produced today. Keep rocking those socks and flip flips.
You should make "My Mate Vince socks" so we can all up load pics of us wearing them! With flip flops of course 😂
These are kind of neat. If completely broken you have a sturdy little suitcase you can repurpose. You can upgrade to use better quality speakers, maybe even better stylus.
Newer ones come with even bluetooth now. Quite a nice lil kit to fix up and use, as long as you're not an audiophile.
I had one like that in the US but I didn't use it because I didn't have any record so I sold it I wanted to buy some but never got around to it I figured someone else will enjoy it more than sitting in my house great job on fixing them up 👍
Techmoan looked at a number of these cheap record players not too long ago. They generally seem to use the same plastic mechanism as these, probably all from the same Chinese factory like cassette mechanisms in new machines today. They're serviceable for what they are, but you should keep an eye on the tracking force they exert on the record. With no way to adjust the tracking force, they can exceed what the cartridge and/or record can take and cause permanent damage.
You can get these small scales that are used to measure the tracking force by placing the stylus on it at the same height as the record would be. Depending on the cartridge it should only be a few grams of force. Of course, if you really care about records you'd get an AudioTechnica cartridge at least, and likely an AT or similar brand record player :)
Mono was a squiggly side to side groove, stereo has the groove going side to side and also deepened to make the needle go up and down as well as side to side..
APU 👁 dropped a 👉👍👈
Pro tip from an old PC motherboard reworker.... a cheap set of steel picks will help with those bridges, especially when you get down to the smaller pin densities. Just heat the bridge, and lightly drag the pick outward between the pins. Solder does not want to stick to the steel until it is much hotter.
That outro was a slice of Vince sponsored by BUSH 😂👍🏼
Almost had me on eBay looking for one of these.
i work with records, the change to stereo was indeed a big deal. some LPs that were literally sounds of you know trains going by and all that were big sellers
Quad must have been fun too but it failed to catch on. Probably a step too far for most people, four speakers.
25:44 Vince: fixer of things, troll to the socks/flip-flop haters 😂
I just don't get the hate for socks with sandals. I like my feet to breath, but I don't like dirt and sweat between my toes. The sock wicks the sweat and dissipates it for quicker evaporation. I just find it more comfortable than without socks.
The puck (for lack of a better name) isn't to sit records on. It's an adapter for a record if the centre had been punched out for use in a jukebox.
like the one Vince had in the video escept the centre hole was intack & not punched through
I had one of those Bush suitcase style record players myself a few months ago granted it was not the best in sound quality through the small speakers and they tracked a bit heavy but as my vinyl was quite old and well played through gold plated 3.5 jack earplugs through the ear plug socket on it the sound was pretty decent better than the speakers built in anyway 😊
@@ellisgarbutt1925 in that case you don't need it then do you?
I will admit when I saw the notification, I thought..belts. Good fixes, good fun.
I bought myself one from Argos when they were on sale a few years ago, brand new for under £20 - Bargain! Sound quality is terrible through the speakers but at least the BUSH model I bought had phono outputs to connect to an external amp, some similar looking models only had the headphone socket. I found it easier to use the auto stop switch as an start/stop switch as it would often stop before the record had finished playing. Mine is definitely a 5 volt version as it has a USB lead and adapter for power.
I'm interested in seeing flexible pcbs and the tech behind that when you do visit the pcbway factory. I've seen so much about the industry standard layered pcbs but not enough out there about flexible pcbs.
hey Vince fantastic video and you mentioning Roland Rat brought me right back to my child hood days but just an FYI Roland Rat then Kevin the gerbil and Errol the hamster I remember Roland saying all the time run VT Errol :)
The channel Technology Connections does an in-depth dive into the workings of the stylus and how they developed the stereo channels. You are basically correct.
The rant followed by the trip to record player 😂
as a kid i used a bent needle as a stylus on our old wooden cabinet record player unit )) never had an idea you could replace it then so i figured make my own was only 6 . gl
If you check out some other channels on this site you will find people who say that these suitcase record players will scratch your records big time. The reason is the tone arm is too light or too heavy depending on the model. Also the stylus is quite cheap. So when you go to your local music store and spend $30 or more for a new record and you play it on this record player you are just wasting your money.
Hi Vince, I have only one thing to say. Errol run VT.
Mine is hooked up to my sound bar and bass…sounds great 👍
Great job Vince 😊
Hello Vince, you've replaced the cartrige and not jst the stylus on the record player.
Question - What do you do with all of these items? Do you resell them on Ebay or elsewhere?
Nice repair marathon. What brand of solder wick are you using?
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Best of them are the suitcases. After once again having played the old 45s from the attic and downloaded them finally, the suitcase will be stored there as well :)
I miss the days where you could just walk into Tandy Radio Shack and have a rummage for components and accessories along with ordering batches if need be. Who'd have thought China beat UK sellers on posting, maybe they have sellers/shops in UK that keep stock?
i remember having a old school one the good old days putting about 4 records on and letting them play
hi are you look at the video on the left side of you just asking resell as a job load best way after you have looked at them
yes you are very right there's note you for get some thing do they p;lay 78's if they don''t you can jazz them up to play them to play them i been there
Hi Vince I've got three different types of these retro record players two are rechargeable believe it or not how cool is that ! I buy stuff off car boots check things and then re sell on car boots the sound quality isn't fantastic but some of mine are Bluetooth also 😅😅😅
don't worry what people think,well done
can imagine vince in the restored roller driving in socks and flip flops and belting out roland rat 🤣🤣
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I believe that on a stereo stylus the left and right movement is one channel, and the up and down motion of the stylus is the other channel.
The PCB Way jump scare got me good
Hiya Vince I have got some of these boards in stock you need any they are working
Oh god! I remember buying Roland Rat - Rat Rapping on 7" single when I was a kid
i have one named victrola which is made in the same factory. the first "stereo" beatles record i heard had the singing in one channel and the instruments in the other!
At 34:00, what is the point of R40? It's a zero Ohm resistor joining two tracks, usually you see there's a track under the resistor for when the designer is trying to avoid a double-sided board), but not here.
If you're trying for cheap you try not to add parts...
If you get a bad one they will be great for project boxes.
Trying to fix item's is seeing how things work, when I was a kid I pulled apart an radio it was green an hand held, the wire would break of the battery connector so my granddad help me fix it.
I can see some My Mate Vince branded sliders coming!
Also, that "massive resistor" with a "0" marking is being used as a fuse link. It will have negligible resistance, actually.
I love Vinyl. The Best sound you will ever get I'd say. They are ok and look kinda nice, but the speakers are meh.. but they made an interesting video.
Can't believe you get away with leaving the soldering iron on the chip for so long! Great video though.
LMFAOOO at 25:44, Vince you are based!!! Comedy timing!!
Nice socks and flops, trendsetter!
The contacts on the cartridge are positive L + R, ground is common for the two apparently.
I don't know how it is in the UK, but here in Australia, despite a lot of ebay sellers who like to throw words around like 'AU stock' or 'Australia Stock' or 'Local Stock', or 'Delivered by Australia Post', etc... majority of the time it is drop-shipped from China to the seller who then sends it to you.
Essas vitrolinhas são um bom quebra galho.
Have a cheap victrola that wont power on. Meter shows power to everything. Any ideas?
Nice Job Vince. I think the audio IC was blown due to over voltage. Someone probably plugged the wrong AC adapter in. Where the burn mark is corresponds with where the power comes into the chip by the look of the 0 ohm resistor and probably capacitor on the other side of the board. Great job as usual 👍
Thanks Mick, yes, maybe they used the 9V supply from the other record player models on this 5V one, or more likely a 19V laptop power supply looking at the damage 😂👍
Shame you don't have an ebay account where you sell your fixed items . I would definitely be a buyer
hi CED video discs when i got my first one
from a used hi-fi i had to 2nd looking how they worked i think i was not right i have a stereo player still my mate has a quad audio record player
not 100% know how they work
I think the unit that had the blown up amplifier was connected to the wrong power source - To blow up a chip would have to be either ac power or 24 volt dc power - by accident of course ...
I got one of these and the wow/flutter was appalling. The sound quality was about as good as a clock radio. Even with an amp and speakers little bass so might as well use the built in ones. Almost seemed like the spindle wasn't quite straight as the arm would lift and drop when playing. Just about passable for rock or speech but horrible for classical stuff or orchestral/brass. Replaced it with a Sony which is your next step up (90 instead of 50) and you need an amp. So I get the appeal of these as cheap fun but if you want to enjoy your music and have an amp and speakers then get the sony/pioneer (all the same platform)
Cheers for the info Paul 👍
When your vinyl records are worth about twice as much as the record mechanism what do you expect? I have a Pro-ject Debut Pro but you can get a good record player for about £150-200.
The sad thing is that junk like this appeals to people who are just starting out and want to listen to vinyl but know absolutely nothing about audio and hi-fi. The chinese are unscrupulous and take advantage of that, knowing that people will buy this crap and think it's wonderful when they really don't know any better.