Theres a fix for the wheel not being centered. Rotate the mirror for the backside of the steering wheel sensor. I used a small plastic piece i had laying about, removed it from its position and just glued it to the plastic piece at 45 degrees to the left. Might take a few tries to finetune the center position. If you want 900 degrees then cover another hole on the black sensor disc (totally 3 holes, the rest covered), thatll actually give you 868 degrees or something like that. I think that 4 holes is good though otherwise youll end up steering too much for a wheel with such a small diameter. Make sure youll use a ziptie and pull it hard, for the steering wheel connector, that way you lock the last part containing the loose wires and youll not damage them as easily.
can you please tell me the pinout of the RJ11 cable. the one that plugs into the foot peddles and to the driving wheel. I lost mine and need to make a new one. crossover or straight through? thanks
Jan Kadeřábek Hmm, I no longer have the steering wheel, but I guess you will have to take it apart (just put all the screws in one place so U don't loose any ) if I remember correctly there is a PCB with micro switches for paddle switches and front buttons. Once you get to them you might just clean them up or replace for new ones. I hope this helps :)
I wonder if you are still answering to comments on this video, but how can you open the back cover or like the whole thing? Like I have unscrewed all the screws I have found, but it doesn't open.
What you're trying to do here is called "reducing sensitivity" of the wheel rotation. My question is why do all this work when sensitivity is part of the driver setup?
@@theextratesticles2358 Finall got around to doing it and I either wired something wrong or got a bad slip ring. Gonna mess around with again later to see if I can make it work. If I can get it to work, then splicing in a slip ring would be the way to go as it would allow the wheel to rotate an unlimited amount of times with risking wire breakage.
Hello! This is quite an old video so I doubt I'll find help but I did this mod and my force feedback does not return to the center properly anymore unless I remove the tape on the motor (thus making the mod pointless.) Any ideas on how I could fix this
Yeah, you can see when I did that mod the wheel was not returning to the centre, that's the only down side, this is why I put the tape on the steering wheel to mark the middle for the video. It is what it is... But imagine you can use the mechanism and electronics to adapt to your own wheel for cheap $$ ? :) Good old days :) haha
Interesting. I have this exact wheel. Would it be possible to 3d print i new coding wheel for the ff. Also. Completely striping off the wires protective rubber housing may save the wire from knotting up so much.
I tried this and now windows doesn't recognize the wheel rotation anymore. Pedals and buttons work fine. Noticed the crumpled reflective sticker for the ir transmitter and replaced it with aluminum foil. if I let it calibrate upon plugging it in, the wheel will just turn indefinitely. Any idea how to get windows to see the movement again?
Sounds a lot like you accidentially destroyed the mirror. But without seeing it I guess you just need to align it precisely with the detectors again and then it should also work with the aluminium foil.
Siemka. Mam zamiar kupić taką kierownicę i ją przerobić w ten sposób ale... Czy ten force feedback działa na pełnym zakresie 900 stopni ? I czy on blokuje aby więcej niż 900 stopni nie obrócić ?
+Jan Kadeřábek I have not had a chance to play on Logitech Formula Ex, so I can't tell you which one is better, but If you get the MS SideWinder FFB then you know how to modify it :)
+Radek Ciskowski I need to get to the board where power connector is soldered and solder custom connector here. But I cant find out how to disassemble the wheel so I can reveal the guts... I have already removed all screws from the housing... what should I do next? Can you give me a clue? Thank you!
+cesar magalhaes Windows 7 and probably windows 8 will install the basic drivers automatically. Everything schould work fine (FFB, pedals, steering wheel, buttons) I don't think that you will be able to install the original drivers for this steering wheel.
there are two screws inside the casing, one on both sides of the wheel (lord knows how they've gotten there). you can try to unscrew them with a long screwdriver through the airvents, assuming the FFB variant has them. my non-FFB certainly does.
Radek Ciskowski I made this mod today, inspired by your video. I've found out a way to make the rotation to pretty much 900 degrees(like a normal car) Also i've found a way to make it center, it's actually really easy, but the disadvantage is that you need to do this every time you plug the wheel in, or everytime you start up your pc again. Hit me up if you want to know how i did it.
+john mirkovic I have not tested this mod with asseto corsa. It should work with almost all games. A large effect on the operation of the wheel have settings in game. The more settings the better.
Theres a fix for the wheel not being centered. Rotate the mirror for the backside of the steering wheel sensor. I used a small plastic piece i had laying about, removed it from its position and just glued it to the plastic piece at 45 degrees to the left. Might take a few tries to finetune the center position.
If you want 900 degrees then cover another hole on the black sensor disc (totally 3 holes, the rest covered), thatll actually give you 868 degrees or something like that. I think that 4 holes is good though otherwise youll end up steering too much for a wheel with such a small diameter.
Make sure youll use a ziptie and pull it hard, for the steering wheel connector, that way you lock the last part containing the loose wires and youll not damage them as easily.
can you please tell me the pinout of the RJ11 cable. the one that plugs into the foot peddles and to the driving wheel. I lost mine and need to make a new one. crossover or straight through? thanks
this helped me having a lot more fun with the wheel!!!
thank you!!!
+lucyuhhh Does the Force Feedback work as without the mod?
+Jan Kadeřábek it does work! and i found a way to make it center right! i will send you some pictures of my wheel if you want!
Would be happy if you can send them or describe how did you exactly do that so I won't damage the wheel by trying something stupid :)
Thanks!
will send you some pictures tonight!
my email - jendabek@gmail.com... if you have a time... :)
I will receive the wheel soon.
Thanks
So this should also work with a Precision Pro non force feedback wheel?
Hello, if you are still watching comments here... can you please give me a hint how can I get into paddle switches to clean them? Thank you :)
Jan Kadeřábek Hmm, I no longer have the steering wheel, but I guess you will have to take it apart (just put all the screws in one place so U don't loose any ) if I remember correctly there is a PCB with micro switches for paddle switches and front buttons. Once you get to them you might just clean them up or replace for new ones. I hope this helps :)
Anyone figure out how to do 900 degree rotation without risking damage to the wires?
I wonder if you are still answering to comments on this video, but how can you open the back cover or like the whole thing? Like I have unscrewed all the screws I have found, but it doesn't open.
theyre under the gliding pads
What you're trying to do here is called "reducing sensitivity" of the wheel rotation. My question is why do all this work when sensitivity is part of the driver setup?
Because of the limiters
@@eclogites Maybe you could share with everybody else what "limiters" are.
@@ramtek2702 literally plastic limiters
how did you gett of the plugg pls show me i cant do it now ; (((
Gonna give this a try soon and incorporate a slip ring to prevent wires from breaking.
Did it work?
@@theextratesticles2358 Finall got around to doing it and I either wired something wrong or got a bad slip ring. Gonna mess around with again later to see if I can make it work. If I can get it to work, then splicing in a slip ring would be the way to go as it would allow the wheel to rotate an unlimited amount of times with risking wire breakage.
Can you do this for non force feedback wheel?
I assume so, but it will be different
Hi.did u find a way to make the force feedback work properly with iracing?
Hello! This is quite an old video so I doubt I'll find help but I did this mod and my force feedback does not return to the center properly anymore unless I remove the tape on the motor (thus making the mod pointless.) Any ideas on how I could fix this
Yeah, you can see when I did that mod the wheel was not returning to the centre, that's the only down side, this is why I put the tape on the steering wheel to mark the middle for the video. It is what it is... But imagine you can use the mechanism and electronics to adapt to your own wheel for cheap $$ ? :)
Good old days :) haha
@@radekciskowski2070 figured it out from another comment! There's a little mirror under the wheel that you move to the left. Works great, thank you;
thank you
I succeeded in this experiment with the microsoft steering wheel
Hi, Im having problems with my sidewinder, the force button is blinking and it does not have force feedback. Just looking for help
Make sure your power supply works and the power is connected to your steering wheel
@@radekciskowski2070 yep it is connected
It worked before when the pins in the power supply were bent
Is this steering wheel big? Can it be converted into a momo steering wheel?
Interesting. I have this exact wheel. Would it be possible to 3d print i new coding wheel for the ff. Also. Completely striping off the wires protective rubber housing may save the wire from knotting up so much.
Printing a new encoder wheel would work just as good as the original one with tape.
It's all about how many slots are on the encoding wheel :)
I tried this and now windows doesn't recognize the wheel rotation anymore. Pedals and buttons work fine. Noticed the crumpled reflective sticker for the ir transmitter and replaced it with aluminum foil. if I let it calibrate upon plugging it in, the wheel will just turn indefinitely. Any idea how to get windows to see the movement again?
Have the same problem, did you manage to fix it?
Sounds a lot like you accidentially destroyed the mirror. But without seeing it I guess you just need to align it precisely with the detectors again and then it should also work with the aluminium foil.
This will kill the cables
No if you make a limiter.
Mam pytanie. Wystarcza te dwa małe zabiegi i przestawienie w grze kontrolera na 900 st. i tyle ? pozdrawiam
Siemka. Mam zamiar kupić taką kierownicę i ją przerobić w ten sposób ale... Czy ten force feedback działa na pełnym zakresie 900 stopni ? I czy on blokuje aby więcej niż 900 stopni nie obrócić ?
+Rudy Proh Siema, FFB dziala na calym zakresie 900 stopni. Nie ma blokady, trzeba uwazac :)
Pozdro!
Hi, do you recommend this wheel or Logitech Formula Ex? Thank you and thanks for the instructions :)
+Jan Kadeřábek I have not had a chance to play on Logitech Formula Ex, so I can't tell you which one is better, but If you get the MS SideWinder FFB then you know how to modify it :)
+Radek Ciskowski I need to get to the board where power connector is soldered and solder custom connector here. But I cant find out how to disassemble the wheel so I can reveal the guts... I have already removed all screws from the housing... what should I do next? Can you give me a clue? Thank you!
Da się mieć 900 stopni w kierownicy thrustmaster 458 italia ? Ma ona 270 stopni, a chciałbym mieć przynajmniej 900
Mysle, ze wszystkie kierownice z takim enkoderem jak na filmie da sie tak oszukac.
Radek Ciskowski Probem w tym, ze nie wiem jaka czesc w mojej kierownicy dokładnie odpowiada za limit obrotów
Radek Ciskowski Dobra, już wiem o co chodzi, dzięki za pomoc :)
Result: the new center should be marked. Imagine driving all the time with the steering wheel off-center!!
Awesome :D
steering wheel stop in full lock ( like without no modification) or still rotating ? need drivers? work in windows 7, vista and 8?
+cesar magalhaes Windows 7 and probably windows 8 will install the basic drivers automatically. Everything schould work fine (FFB, pedals, steering wheel, buttons)
I don't think that you will be able to install the original drivers for this steering wheel.
+Radek Ciskowski maybe i buy it, price here is around 25euros, thanks for info
How do you show that I could not remove the back cover off?
I can't open it either
there are two screws inside the casing, one on both sides of the wheel (lord knows how they've gotten there). you can try to unscrew them with a long screwdriver through the airvents, assuming the FFB variant has them. my non-FFB certainly does.
i know this is 2 years old bit can you describe where they are??
Does it turns forever to right or left? You broke the limiting plastic. Is there a way to limit the turn?
selfctrl yeah there are no limits. Force feedback motor will turn the wheel back to its centre position
Dobra, tylko teraz problem bo potencjometr wykrywa tylko 270 stopni,
My wheel dont center now :/
Jose Costa This is another disadvantage of this modification. That is why I pointed the center on steering wheel by using a brown tape.
Radek Ciskowski I made this mod today, inspired by your video. I've found out a way to make the rotation to pretty much 900 degrees(like a normal car) Also i've found a way to make it center, it's actually really easy, but the disadvantage is that you need to do this every time you plug the wheel in, or everytime you start up your pc again.
Hit me up if you want to know how i did it.
xwair how did you do it? :)
xwair Yea,share that broski,but that is not the biger issue,is the wires hehe,i almost broke them all hehe :D,now is stock again :)
Jose Costa Gimme a few days and i'll make some pictures and explain it. Got a test in school coming up, so im busy for a couple of days.
whether it will work on ets2 ,assetto corsa .?
+john mirkovic I have not tested this mod with asseto corsa. It should work with almost all games.
A large effect on the operation of the wheel have settings in game. The more settings the better.